I always thought WIMS was a screening device. They are not accurate enough to base a prosecution on, VOSA have to take you to a calibrated weighbridge to get the evidence for a penalty/prosecution. However, yes, they could be used as a screening device for motorhomes.
I agree Kevin is great, you both bring a smile when I watch your pod casts, even though I am from the dark side coming back to caravaning after a 13 year break. Have noticed everything seems heavier But I suspect that’s an age thing as I have from yesterday officially a gimpy knee that will not get better but will need replacing eventually
Kevin is always right! As long as you're travelling how you want then it couldn't possibly be the dark side (don't tell the other motorhomers I said that though). Wishing you all the best for finding something to help your knee problems.
Thank you and welcome! I think all motor vehicles have become heavier in general. More safety equipment and driver aids mean more weight. Our 1934 Austin 7 is tiny and light compared to the modern mini!
I have just been to the local weigh-bridge with our “new to us” 2017 Peugeot Boxer Calders Camper conversion to get it weighed before loading up with all our goods and shackles! This was with 7/8 fuel, full gas and 40% fresh water we weighed in at 2,940kgs. We therefore now know we have a payload of 560kgs, less our dogs and our weight. Given the lack of space compared to our 7.5m Coachbuilt, then I can’t see how we have got the room for coming close to our maximum payload.
Although that sounds like you’re ok as it is under the overall plated weight but it could still exceed an individual axle weight. Always use a weighbridge that can do individual axles most overweight motor caravans exceed the rear axle weight as stated on the vehicles weight plate. End result same fine or prosecution.
With the flyscreen bracket, its not just Adria, its also Eddis CV range and probably many more. Ours fell off all the time until the whole screen was replaced, now no issues.
@@MotorhomeMatt Our van is a CV40 Oct 2022 .. when I was in the CV Facebook group, lots of people complained about the flyscreen & the many many other faults. Terrible that Eddis do not fix repetitive faults. We were always complaining about the same issues.
@@MotorhomeMatt Adria Doors are on the R/H Side. You need to ensure you get the L/H door side for UK vans. Also the bracket does not fit all flyscreens, so try to buy from somewhere you can return it to if it don't fit. GL.
At That Leisure Shop we would accept a return and refund in full. I’ve fitted this bracket to a Twin 600SP uk side door. Most Twin models are drivers side door
I thought the mobile phone rules never applied to mums doing the school run or any delivery driver in a white van. At least that seems to be the case around here!
Hi just found your site enjoyed your video found it very informative so have just subscribed. The item regarding the fly screen bracket was particularly relevant so at your quoted price of £8 pound thought yes I’ll have one. Only to find on your link to the leisure shop they are listed at £22.99. Why?
I don’t know no. But I felt a worthy topic to share as motorists driving heavier vehicles often to ferry ports where these systems are commonplace to catch overweight HGVs. Nothing stopping a motorhome being monitored
@@MotorhomeMatt I fully agree. Some people completely bury their heads in the sand regarding GVW. All very well until you’re in an accident and it’s fully investigated by Police or Insurance. Potential Prison if it’s a fatal RTA.
You should probably point out that you can be over weight especially on the rear axle without exceeding the gvw. The wims weighs each axle to calculate the total weight.
My point was that an overweight axle is illegal. You cannot be over the gvw without at least one axle being overweight . Using the gvw is an incorrect way of describing being overweight. It is about not overloading individual axles regardless of the gvw.
Talking of using a hand held mobile phone. I was once driving south on the M3 and I saw a Maroon Ferrari with Safety Car on all 4 sides and the driver happily talking quite merrily on his hand held phone and blind to all around him. Would loved to see the police stop him and his employer know how dangerous the driver was, driving a safety car..
From April 2023 it was made illegal to use your phone whilst driving for any purpose including as a satnav, music player, or camera. So don't get one of those £5 things to stick to your window to allow you sort your satnav!
Quite right although technically a windscreen mounted holder would make phone use legal as you’re not holding it. Provided the mount does not block your view of the road. The rules are defined here and this item of kit is referenced www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law
Wims … I know it’s all about safety , but it’s another example of the nanny/police state . Another example of bleeding the public of their hard earned cash . We are being fined for everything . Maybe if the money was spent on the roads but it isn’t . Our potholed roads are the worst in Europe . Yet we are constantly being fined by cameras .
A fair comment although WIMS are aimed at commercial businesses not the general public. But I absolutely agree with you on potholes. Our roads are a disgrace. I recently saw a video comparison of a stretch of road from the 1960’s and 2020’s. Much busier of course with bigger cars but the tarmac was chalk and cheese literally!
Perhaps so but I felt better to inform and be aware. An appeal would be a hassle. Enough to prosecute? I doubt it but things could change. Live monitoring could be added to these sites meaning an on the spot weighing and checking…
Even though driving this amount of time driving buses, I never forget to belt up when using my own, always remember the old advert clunk click every trip😉 great pod guys😎🤙
I always thought WIMS was a screening device. They are not accurate enough to base a prosecution on, VOSA have to take you to a calibrated weighbridge to get the evidence for a penalty/prosecution. However, yes, they could be used as a screening device for motorhomes.
I agree but nonetheless I felt one worth sharing an insight on
Great informative video-podcast, loved the interaction between you two.
Thank you. It’s all drug induced and post therapy
Fantastic podcast as always lads. Great useful advice keep up the good work, Deolch, Mike South wales 🏴
Thank you, Mike! Much appreciated
diolch yn fawr
Totally agree about mobile phones, WIMS is new information and really great information thankyou
You are welcome! When I heard about WIMS I had to find out more. Great to hear you found it useful too
I agree Kevin is great, you both bring a smile when I watch your pod casts, even though I am from the dark side coming back to caravaning after a 13 year break. Have noticed everything seems heavier But I suspect that’s an age thing as I have from yesterday officially a gimpy knee that will not get better but will need replacing eventually
Kevin is always right! As long as you're travelling how you want then it couldn't possibly be the dark side (don't tell the other motorhomers I said that though). Wishing you all the best for finding something to help your knee problems.
Thank you and welcome! I think all motor vehicles have become heavier in general. More safety equipment and driver aids mean more weight. Our 1934 Austin 7 is tiny and light compared to the modern mini!
I have just been to the local weigh-bridge with our “new to us” 2017 Peugeot Boxer Calders Camper conversion to get it weighed before loading up with all our goods and shackles!
This was with 7/8 fuel, full gas and 40% fresh water we weighed in at 2,940kgs. We therefore now know we have a payload of 560kgs, less our dogs and our weight. Given the lack of space compared to our 7.5m Coachbuilt, then I can’t see how we have got the room for coming close to our maximum payload.
Simple. Beer.
Although that sounds like you’re ok as it is under the overall plated weight but it could still exceed an individual axle weight.
Always use a weighbridge that can do individual axles most overweight motor caravans exceed the rear axle weight as stated on the vehicles weight plate. End result same fine or prosecution.
I’ve got a residential 415w solar panel on my van not had any problems in the last 12 months and only used the mains charger three times
Excellent! What made you choose a residential panel? Its size?
Purely because the son in law sells them and offered me at cost no other reason.
With the flyscreen bracket, its not just Adria, its also Eddis CV range and probably many more. Ours fell off all the time until the whole screen was replaced, now no issues.
I’m not sure it’s all Eldiss CV models tho. We’d love to work out which ones this can benefit! Some buyers say they don’t fit
@@MotorhomeMatt Our van is a CV40 Oct 2022 .. when I was in the CV Facebook group, lots of people complained about the flyscreen & the many many other faults. Terrible that Eddis do not fix repetitive faults. We were always complaining about the same issues.
So would this bracket fix that? I might have to try it!
@@MotorhomeMatt Adria Doors are on the R/H Side. You need to ensure you get the L/H door side for UK vans. Also the bracket does not fit all flyscreens, so try to buy from somewhere you can return it to if it don't fit. GL.
At That Leisure Shop we would accept a return and refund in full. I’ve fitted this bracket to a Twin 600SP uk side door. Most Twin models are drivers side door
Have to admit I thought they were just measuring how many cars were going past. Good vlog as always 👍
Thanks for commenting and for your kind words. I thought I would share as we are likely to see more of these.
One tube is for traffic volume. 2 tubes approx 1m apart is for volume and speed.
Fine though to mess about with your touch screen to your hearts content 👍
If seen there are consequences!
I thought the mobile phone rules never applied to mums doing the school run or any delivery driver in a white van.
At least that seems to be the case around here!
How did they get the touchscreens past type approval? ie Teslas & the like.
I thought it was Audi drivers who were exempt? 😂
@@MotorhomeMatt I didn’t know Audi made delivery vans!😉
Could?
You give me the website of the black street removal.You showed the other day
Here you go
www.thatleisureshop.com/that-leisure-shop-black-streak-remover/
Could you tell me the best data SIM to get in the e? U?
I would suggest a local one for the country you are in with a sufficient amount of data and longevity for your needs
Could you tell me the best data SIM to get in the eu
I would suggest a sim local to the country you are in with an amount of data on it that fits your needs.
Hi just found your site enjoyed your video found it very informative so have just subscribed. The item regarding the fly screen bracket was particularly relevant so at your quoted price of £8 pound thought yes I’ll have one. Only to find on your link to the leisure shop they are listed at £22.99. Why?
The £8 is the shipping charge I’m referring to - the cost of DHL. Sorry for any confusion
Do you know if anyone in a Lesuire Vehicle been reported for this offence using the WIMS tech?
I don’t know no. But I felt a worthy topic to share as motorists driving heavier vehicles often to ferry ports where these systems are commonplace to catch overweight HGVs. Nothing stopping a motorhome being monitored
@@MotorhomeMatt I fully agree. Some people completely bury their heads in the sand regarding GVW. All very well until you’re in an accident and it’s fully investigated by Police or Insurance. Potential Prison if it’s a fatal RTA.
Do you have any actual evidence of this? I’ve always believed the same but yet to speak to an insurer who would prosecute if overweight
You should probably point out that you can be over weight especially on the rear axle without exceeding the gvw. The wims weighs each axle to calculate the total weight.
That is correct but an overweight axle can be a problem
My point was that an overweight axle is illegal. You cannot be over the gvw without at least one axle being overweight . Using the gvw is an incorrect way of describing being overweight. It is about not overloading individual axles regardless of the gvw.
That’s quite right! Basic maths right there. Thanks Andrew
Talking of using a hand held mobile phone. I was once driving south on the M3 and I saw a Maroon Ferrari with Safety Car on all 4 sides and the driver happily talking quite merrily on his hand held phone and blind to all around him. Would loved to see the police stop him and his employer know how dangerous the driver was, driving a safety car..
That would be a great meme!
£5 weighbridge, where are you? Just weighted our MH, it cost £15. Essex
North Somerset. There are 2 close to us and both are low cost. It’s usually £5 or 2 groats and a carrot. 🤣
Thanks for watching and commenting
From April 2023 it was made illegal to use your phone whilst driving for any purpose including as a satnav, music player, or camera. So don't get one of those £5 things to stick to your window to allow you sort your satnav!
Quite right although technically a windscreen mounted holder would make phone use legal as you’re not holding it. Provided the mount does not block your view of the road. The rules are defined here and this item of kit is referenced
www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law
Wims … I know it’s all about safety , but it’s another example of the nanny/police state . Another example of bleeding the public of their hard earned cash . We are being fined for everything . Maybe if the money was spent on the roads but it isn’t . Our potholed roads are the worst in Europe . Yet we are constantly being fined by cameras .
A fair comment although WIMS are aimed at commercial businesses not the general public. But I absolutely agree with you on potholes. Our roads are a disgrace. I recently saw a video comparison of a stretch of road from the 1960’s and 2020’s. Much busier of course with bigger cars but the tarmac was chalk and cheese literally!
Sorry but I cannot see WIMS being accurate enough to prosecute, surely this will be riddled with appeals.
Perhaps so but I felt better to inform and be aware. An appeal would be a hassle. Enough to prosecute? I doubt it but things could change. Live monitoring could be added to these sites meaning an on the spot weighing and checking…
Agree, so it would make sense to have your own log book, 5 point check , save the hassle with evidence
I drive 40 to 50 hrs a week not wearing a seat belt😅🤣😂🤣😅, London bus driver??
Don’t crash! Love UK laws. Thanks for watching and commenting
Even though driving this amount of time driving buses, I never forget to belt up when using my own, always remember the old advert clunk click every trip😉 great pod guys😎🤙
Then your bus company and you should be fined, that's a self guarantee you will never crash or harm others?