The Mormon Church has slowly been turning away from Mormonism and towards general Christianity. This is a brief overview of how and why the Church is changing.
Because it is the Book of Mormon Mormon spent incredible amounts of time, energy and focus compiling, abridging and protecting the ancient records. We know it as another testament of Jesus Christ, it’s written on the front of every cover of the Book of Mormon.
I believe that the answer is simple: Even though we believe that the prophets we follow are called of God, and can recieve divine revelation, they are still entitled to their own opinions, and are obviously fallible. God also likes to test our faith through seemingly tough anachronisms like this.
@@craiglaw7578 - My opinion is that the nickname Mormon wasn't offensive to the Lord with previous prophets because it served a purpose for the world to get to know us by the familiar name they had heard about. Also to respect the name of the Lord by not mocking or using His holy name disrespectfully when people are making fun of Mormons and the Church. But now many people don't realize we are a Christian church and that we worship Christ. It's time to be more intentional and use the revealed name of the Church, especially as social media and UA-cam are much more prevalent now than previously.
@CJ-hw6br - Hello. This was asked of me by another person. I'll share the same response. The name Mormon wasn't one we selected. It was originally a derogatory name imposed upon us by enemies of the Church. Eventually we embraced it because we're not ashamed of The Book of Mormon, but it never has been the official name of the Church. My opinion is that the nickname Mormon wasn't offensive to the Lord with previous prophets because it served a purpose for the world to get to know us by the familiar name they had heard about, that we aren't derogatory people. And also to respect the name of the Lord by not mocking or using His holy name disrespectfully when people are making fun of Mormons and the Church. But now many people don't realize we are a Christian church and that we worship Christ. It's time to be more intentional and use the revealed name of the Church, especially as social media and UA-cam are much more prevalent now than previously.
@@micheleh3851 You copied and pasted your previous response, which is offensive to me, because I took the time to read it the first time. Now that I’ve read your opinion twice, it appears the conclusion is the same: The god of the Mormons is capricious.
This is a classic example of the incoherence of how the mind and will of an omniscient God is portrayed in the church. God apparently wasn't the least bit offended by the use of the "Mormon" nickname... until October 2018. A God who is "the same, yesterday, today, and forever." It is such a relief that I'm not living with this cognitive dissonance anymore. At least in myself.
Seems super disrespectful to my gazillion LDS ancestors who sacrificed greatly coming from overseas, Canada and eastern U.S. to Utah Territory and proudly called themselves Mormon. I will continue to use that term to honor them instead of erasing more history.
Your ancestors who joined the church were Latter-day Saints, not a single one of them were ever a Mormon. Don't fall into the trap of our enemies and continue using a bigoted nickname.
Poor Russell want Mormons to be thought of as Christians, but the larger Evangelical community never will, and these facile changes will have zero effect.
@@minaguta4147 I don't think that's got anything to do with it. He's just settling old scores. Otherwise he would have stressed more about being Christians rather than calling Hinckley names. Saying what Hinckley did "offended the Lord" and that any promotion of a nickname was a "victory for Satan"? That was cold. I'd alrwady started disliking him after reading about his double wife sealing thing and how he speaks about "impressions" rather than any indication he actually gets answers from God. But to slander a previous leader and go around deleting all the lds and mormon websites he set up? That's just petty bitterness.
I forgot the I’m a Mormon campaign. I was thinking back to the 80’s. Those commercials telling people to call a number for their free New Testament, and free Book of Mormon or to ask their ‘Mormon’ neighbor. Or was it the 70’s. The name of their choir naturally. The LDS was in use to differentiate from the other LD movement, some with polygamy and some that never had polygamy.
Your claim is very broad which leads me to ask, "What would be a true church ?" "What is true and what is false ?" An authentic Christian church is made up of imperfect people who desire to grow in their relationship with Jesus Christ. LDS doctrine greatly differs from historic Christian doctrine.
@@UFfan8780 it is impossible for any anything organised as a "church" to be true. If you desire a relationship with God just make one! The sad reality is that most people are still like the Israelites at Mount Sinai: they sent Moses up into the mountain to get the Law because they feared having God come down to be among them. In today's world, they want a preacher instead of having God directly involved with their lives. Well it's better than nothing, but a poor substitute for what they could have if they weren't so afraid.
Fantastic! I think you nailed it. Rebrand is not from God and definitely from public opinion polls. Sadly, the teaching that prophets would be taken from the Earth before they would lead us astray has definitely proven to be false. If that were a true principle there would be a daily or weekly turnover in the Q15. 😂 Great info! Keep up the good work!
Russell wanted to stop using Mormon decades ago but everyone shot him down but it is kind of amazing that he became profit suddenly god was like "yep Rusty I have decided that the name I was cool with for years needs to change."
@@Iudayus - There's a reason why Russell Nelson outlived everyone else ahead of him with more seniority as an Apostle than he had. He is THE man that God wants to be THE prophet for this time. Do you think it was a coincidence that a medical doctor led the Church through a global pandemic? Or made robust changes in procedures and practices over the past 6 years? Or announced the building of hundreds of Temples? If God wanted a prophet that would implement different changes, Nelson would have passed away already and others would be the prophet.
@@micheleh3851 so an omnipotent being who supposedly talks to Guy and calls the shots has to play whack-a- mole with old men to insure that the one he wants is in charge at the right time. Mind you they are all knowing and all powerful and apparently communicating with the guys. Ok
I think it's just Nelson's own "taste." Hinckley wasn't bothered by it and Nelson disagreed with him, but at that time Nelson wasn't the boss. Now he's the boss, he overrides Hinkley. "... a major victory for Satan," yeah, right. He's pretty much dancing on Hinckley's grave.
Trying to deceive people into thinking it is a Christian church. Perhaps their public image is low because people get very annoyed at them knocking on their doors.
A church that started with a man seeing and speaking with Jesus Christ, testifying of Jesus Christ his entire life, naming the church after Jesus Christ, and teaching the doctrine of Jesus Christ, is not a Christian church?!! Are you mad? The Church of Jesus Christ is 100% a Christian church, so stop your bigotry and lies.
Behold, vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth, a day of wrath, a day of burning, a day of desolation, of weeping, of mourning, and of lamentation; and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord. And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord; First among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord. (D&C 112:24-26) Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. …that he might be revealed in his time. (2 Thessalonians 2:1, 3-4, 6, 7) While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning. (D&C 85:8)
Why work so hard for a jesus that was warned about in matthew 24, by Jesus? He warned this would happen in the last days. Its obvious this church is not of God ,it is of man. God resists the proud. any one that believes they are going to become a god is incredibly arrogant.
"God told me to tell you..." "God is omnipotent, why not just tell me himself? I would love to hear it" "Uh, God told me to tell you he doesn't wanna--anyway he also told me to tell you that he has looked at the polling and decided to make some changes so we can grow our $100 Billion treasure fund and expand our chain of tacky discount cathedrals."
@@DustinLaGriza that was one of the weirdest things to me when I first went through a mormon temple! Q: "Why is this all covered in gold? I thought you Mormon's criticised other religions for showing off wealth in church buildings?" A: "Ah, well the temple is different. This is God's house so needs to reflect his glory!" Q: "... Why does God have such tacky taste about what looks like 'glory'? This looks like Donald Trump designed it..." A: "Please move along, you're holding people up..." Q: "Is that a 10 foot gold plated graven image of some guy you've stuck up on tye very top of...." A: "Move along please!"
@picklesadventures - The "some guy" you reference is the same guy that John referenced in the Bible in the Book of Revelation in chapter 14 when he said that an angel would proclaim the gospel to all the earth. That was the scriptural basis for putting an angel blowing a trumpet on top of Temples. Latter-day Saints don't consider it a graven image of worship because we don't worship statues, or paintings. We worship the Savior Jesus Christ.
@@micheleh3851 that only covers the rule don't worship graven images. The one before it says don't make any. And seriously, gold plating someone and putting them on TOP of the temple doesn't give you "golden calf" vibes? What's your definition of "not worshipping" something? I think making it massive, colouring him gold, and putting him on top of your temples is pretty worship-y. He was even your church's logo until very recently. I remember. Just because your church removes stuff doesn't mean the rest of the world forgets. It's only obedient Mormon's that pretend things never existed once they've been changed.
@@picklesadventures - I haven't forgotten either. No, Moroni doesn't give me golden calf vibes because #1, he looks like a man and not a cow, and #2, the graven image in the 10 Commandments refers to men creating with their own hands an idol as a god to worship. Latter-day Saints know God already exists and we don't create Him. He created us. We also don't worship Moroni. As I said, the statues on top of the Temples are to represent proclaiming the Gospel. I bet when you see crosses on top of churches you don't consider those crosses to be graven images or assume anyone is worshipping a cross. It's only significant by what it represents. Same principle with temple statues. We also have statues of Jesus Christ at some of our Temple visitor centers, but no one is bowing down worshipping a statue of marble. Those are to add aesthetic reverence only. We know Christ is the resurrected Lord who resides at the right hand of The Father in Heaven.
@@micheleh3851 wow. You've got a lot of excuses. Hey, don't worry about it. There's no god so he's not going to damn you for putting someone else's statue on his temple anyway. You know, like he destroyed so many for putting up statues of others in his temple in OT times... Repeatedly... Which is why he had to make a commandment to stop putting statues of others in his temple... Because they believed in main God/Yahweh too. They just kept putting other statues in the temple. But mormons ignore all that .... (sorry, I mean mormons have lots of reasons why that's totally, totally, different) 😂
2:04 a church that cannot stand to a little criticism is not much of a church at all, so I actually applaud you for being critical. Here are some reasons for why President Nelson said that that you may have overlooked. We do not worship Mormon. And by having that nickname some people think that we did, rather than who we truly worship, that being our Savior Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father. Most of our nicknames actually took out the name of Jesus Christ, who is central to yours and my salvation. It's a matter of respect and gratitude. Here's another thing you may not really realize. We have been persecuted, criticized, mocked and killed since Joseph Smith restored the gospel on the earth. Do you think some polls that show people don't like us are going to cause us to change in any way? That's nothing new. Either way, I enjoyed the video and the comments, I believe that God loves you more than you can possibly comprehend and that he has provided a way for you to find joy and make it to the kingdom of heaven ❤❤
The motivating factor is always Money. The $200 Billion corporation sole of the "President of the Church of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"
If that's the case then god is incompetitent. Why have the ONLY true church consist of 0.002% of the world's population? 8 BILLION people are not mormon and billions never got a chance to even hear the Mormon church existed. That was his plan? If so. Seems Satan is smarter than God. God only managed to let a tiny, tiny, tiny handful of people know the truth during their lives. That seems pointless. Why have 8 billion people on the planet and practically none of them even have access to this truth? "Oh well, we're getting baptised for them when they are dead!" That's what God came up with? We won't let anyone know the truth except for this small group of people then they can do proxy baptisms to fix the loophole... What a stupid plan.
Fortunately, I was born in Los Angeles in the '60's and NEVER used the name Mormon, I couldn't stand it!! I've corrected people and have told them to use the name we have in the name of our church, for members: Saints, or Latter-day Saints. Ironically, the word Mormons, or Momon as a group, never appears in the Book of Mormon and the church has almost never used the name, it's primary used by enemies of the church and religious bigots. It's no rebrand, it's a reminder to use the correct name.
Behold, they will crucify him; and after he is laid in a sepulchre for the space of three days he shall rise from the dead, with healing in his wings; and all those who shall believe on his name shall be saved in the kingdom of God. Wherefore, my soul delighteth to prophesy concerning him, for I have seen his day, and my heart doth magnify his holy name.
You think Jesus has wings? You mean, like women's sanitary pads? "Jesus was just normal, but now comes with wings! " That's a weird belief to have. Maybe that explains why women don't have to do the ritual Jewish temple cleansing any more though when on their period? Now that Jesus "has wings" they are no longer "unclean" whenever Aunt Flo comes to visit. That's weird though. Mormon's have weird teachings. Jesus now comes with wings...
@@charlesmendeley9823 There are many English words with two syllables but it doesn't mean that we need to use those as nicknames instead of the official name. For me, the abbreviation LDS is okay when you want to go short. The nickname Mormon carries a negative connotation because it was originally made up by Church haters. Later on it became neutral, but I agree with President Nelson that it's time to go back to the official name, as long as Jesus himself pronounces it in the Book of Mormon. However, I still use the nickname from time to time after the official name of the church because some of my friends recognize it by the nickname due to historical reasons.
The real problem is it was once okay just one prophet ago and now it's not. This is the church of what's-happening-now, not some eternal never-changing church. So pick your prophet, Gordon B. Hinkley or Russel Nelson because they contradict each-other.
@@markmidwest7092 We believe in ongoing revelation. Now Russel Nelson is the prophet, so he definitely trumps Gordon Hinkley as Nelson is receiving revelations for our time period.
Funny how conntention seakers, christ said no to contend, don't spend years to see what christ original church taught, in 100 years after christ, 300 diff types, today, 7500, I spent years still learn original teachings, try it you like, if you need help lds person forgives and helps, love your neighbor, if those who persecute. Lot of lies in this vid.
@@johnmarquardt1991 you need to remember, jesus being god is just your interpretation. "See! It says the word was god! See!" Mormon's aren't the only ones that don't believe in the trinity. In fact, that only became the "mainstream" view hundreds of years after Jesus death. The Marcionites, Ebionites, Gnostics and more all did not believe in the trinity initially. It became the dogma around the end of the 4th century, hundreds of years after Jesus. and even today not all faiths agree on it. If things were decided on being true by who had the most believers, then you'd have a really messed up ... Oh, wait...that is how it is... Ask the top scholars on New Testament studies. Jesus claiming to be god in the (very, very very differently written) gospels is a debate, not a fact. So don't be so arrogant as to point at someone else's weird beliefs without holding up a mirror to your own.
@@picklesadventures There is no debate whether Jesus is God - Jesus is God - the Alpha and Omega. Jesus said himself that he and the Father are one. All three members of the Holy Trinity were at the baptism of Jesus. You're believing the fantasy of a con artist and abuser of women - who built a religion out of the teachings of Islam and the rituals of Free Masonry. Praise be the Holy Trinity. There is time for you to repent - spending eternity in Hell will not be enjoyable for you.
Fantastic! I think you nailed it. Rebrand is not from God and definitely from public opinion polls. Sadly, the teaching that prophets would be taken from the Earth before they would lead us astray has definitely proven to be false. If that were a true principle there would be a daily or weekly turnover in the Q15. 😂 Great info! Keep up the good work!
@Qiseeker - Since when has the Church ever cared about public opinion? The Church's history would suggest that from Joseph Smith to the present day, no prophet has ever made decisions based on popular public opinion. Unlike this UA-cam video which talks about re-branding and dresses Russell Nelson in pope attire. Do you really think the creator of this channel cares one way or the other what the Church is called? People would criticize us even if we had never used the nickname Mormon. If you honestly think the Q15 have gone astray, then I invite you to sincerely pray in faith as Joseph Smith did that you can know which Church to join. God won't let you down.
Then why don't we call the book, The Book of Christ?
I'm all for renaming it that.
Because it is the Book of Mormon
Mormon spent incredible amounts of time, energy and focus compiling, abridging and protecting the ancient records.
We know it as another testament of Jesus Christ, it’s written on the front of every cover of the Book of Mormon.
If the former name of the church is offensive to the Lord; why didn’t the Lord reveal this offense to President Hinkley?
Riddle be that…Batman!
I believe that the answer is simple: Even though we believe that the prophets we follow are called of God, and can recieve divine revelation, they are still entitled to their own opinions, and are obviously fallible. God also likes to test our faith through seemingly tough anachronisms like this.
@@craiglaw7578 - My opinion is that the nickname Mormon wasn't offensive to the Lord with previous prophets because it served a purpose for the world to get to know us by the familiar name they had heard about. Also to respect the name of the Lord by not mocking or using His holy name disrespectfully when people are making fun of Mormons and the Church. But now many people don't realize we are a Christian church and that we worship Christ. It's time to be more intentional and use the revealed name of the Church, especially as social media and UA-cam are much more prevalent now than previously.
@@micheleh3851
In the past, God wasn’t offended by the nickname, but now He is?
Capricious.
@CJ-hw6br - Hello. This was asked of me by another person. I'll share the same response. The name Mormon wasn't one we selected. It was originally a derogatory name imposed upon us by enemies of the Church. Eventually we embraced it because we're not ashamed of The Book of Mormon, but it never has been the official name of the Church. My opinion is that the nickname Mormon wasn't offensive to the Lord with previous prophets because it served a purpose for the world to get to know us by the familiar name they had heard about, that we aren't derogatory people. And also to respect the name of the Lord by not mocking or using His holy name disrespectfully when people are making fun of Mormons and the Church. But now many people don't realize we are a Christian church and that we worship Christ. It's time to be more intentional and use the revealed name of the Church, especially as social media and UA-cam are much more prevalent now than previously.
@@micheleh3851 You copied and pasted your previous response, which is offensive to me, because I took the time to read it the first time. Now that I’ve read your opinion twice, it appears the conclusion is the same: The god of the Mormons is capricious.
This is a classic example of the incoherence of how the mind and will of an omniscient God is portrayed in the church. God apparently wasn't the least bit offended by the use of the "Mormon" nickname... until October 2018. A God who is "the same, yesterday, today, and forever."
It is such a relief that I'm not living with this cognitive dissonance anymore. At least in myself.
How do you know God wasn't offended? LOL! "Mormon" was a nickname proposed by the Church's enemies. We took it on to spite them. That's all.
Seems super disrespectful to my gazillion LDS ancestors who sacrificed greatly coming from overseas, Canada and eastern U.S. to Utah Territory and proudly called themselves Mormon. I will continue to use that term to honor them instead of erasing more history.
Your ancestors who joined the church were Latter-day Saints, not a single one of them were ever a Mormon. Don't fall into the trap of our enemies and continue using a bigoted nickname.
Poor Russell want Mormons to be thought of as Christians, but the larger Evangelical community never will, and these facile changes will have zero effect.
You’re telling me an God didn’t direct Joseph Smith to find a hidden testament to the Bible buried in a hill in Upstate New York?
It is a cult, pure and simple. They are not Christians although they like to pretend they are.
I disagree. Very few people can explain why Mormons are not Christian. Their rebrand is very welcome in the charismatic and Pentecostal circles
@@anthonyprose4965 Many Pentecostals also reject Jesus as God.
@@minaguta4147 I don't think that's got anything to do with it. He's just settling old scores. Otherwise he would have stressed more about being Christians rather than calling Hinckley names. Saying what Hinckley did "offended the Lord" and that any promotion of a nickname was a "victory for Satan"? That was cold. I'd alrwady started disliking him after reading about his double wife sealing thing and how he speaks about "impressions" rather than any indication he actually gets answers from God. But to slander a previous leader and go around deleting all the lds and mormon websites he set up? That's just petty bitterness.
Glad I was out before Rusty became the profit. His whole reign is basically trying to outdo Hinkley!
And he DOES make a pretty decent profit from being the top dude as well. 😅
@@robertthompsonsr8293 He used to make much more money when he was a heart surgeon. Service in the church is downshifting in terms of income.
Wow! So agree...
I forgot the I’m a Mormon campaign. I was thinking back to the 80’s. Those commercials telling people to call a number for their free New Testament, and free Book of Mormon or to ask their ‘Mormon’ neighbor. Or was it the 70’s. The name of their choir naturally. The LDS was in use to differentiate from the other LD movement, some with polygamy and some that never had polygamy.
I remember that- late 70s or early 80s, the 'We're the Mormons' campaign on TV like a public service announcement
All churches are false including this rich one. Read true history. Think people.
Your claim is very broad which leads me to ask, "What would be a true church ?" "What is true and what is false ?" An authentic Christian church is made up of imperfect people who desire to grow in their relationship with Jesus Christ. LDS doctrine greatly differs from historic Christian doctrine.
@@UFfan8780 it is impossible for any anything organised as a "church" to be true. If you desire a relationship with God just make one!
The sad reality is that most people are still like the Israelites at Mount Sinai: they sent Moses up into the mountain to get the Law because they feared having God come down to be among them. In today's world, they want a preacher instead of having God directly involved with their lives. Well it's better than nothing, but a poor substitute for what they could have if they weren't so afraid.
Fantastic! I think you nailed it. Rebrand is not from God and definitely from public opinion polls. Sadly, the teaching that prophets would be taken from the Earth before they would lead us astray has definitely proven to be false. If that were a true principle there would be a daily or weekly turnover in the Q15. 😂
Great info! Keep up the good work!
But it is from God. Its in the scriptures.
Russell wanted to stop using Mormon decades ago but everyone shot him down but it is kind of amazing that he became profit suddenly god was like "yep Rusty I have decided that the name I was cool with for years needs to change."
Are you telling me the LDS prophets don't speak on behalf of God?! Truly wild.
@@wynnedwards94 idk but God seems to change his mind to line up with whatever the top old guy thinks
@@Iudayus - There's a reason why Russell Nelson outlived everyone else ahead of him with more seniority as an Apostle than he had. He is THE man that God wants to be THE prophet for this time. Do you think it was a coincidence that a medical doctor led the Church through a global pandemic? Or made robust changes in procedures and practices over the past 6 years? Or announced the building of hundreds of Temples? If God wanted a prophet that would implement different changes, Nelson would have passed away already and others would be the prophet.
@@micheleh3851 so an omnipotent being who supposedly talks to Guy and calls the shots has to play whack-a- mole with old men to insure that the one he wants is in charge at the right time. Mind you they are all knowing and all powerful and apparently communicating with the guys. Ok
@@micheleh3851 Your reasoning is classic circular logic. How very cult like of you.
I think it's just Nelson's own "taste." Hinckley wasn't bothered by it and Nelson disagreed with him, but at that time Nelson wasn't the boss. Now he's the boss, he overrides Hinkley.
"... a major victory for Satan," yeah, right. He's pretty much dancing on Hinckley's grave.
Trying to deceive people into thinking it is a Christian church. Perhaps their public image is low because people get very annoyed at them knocking on their doors.
A church that started with a man seeing and speaking with Jesus Christ, testifying of Jesus Christ his entire life, naming the church after Jesus Christ, and teaching the doctrine of Jesus Christ, is not a Christian church?!! Are you mad? The Church of Jesus Christ is 100% a Christian church, so stop your bigotry and lies.
I am a Mormon.
Motivation? For them, money......
The Lord commanded it, therefore we comply because we love the Lord.
I can respect that. But that does raise the question: Were President Hinckley, President Monson, and others sinning by not obeying the command?
Behold, vengeance cometh speedily upon the inhabitants of the earth, a day of wrath, a day of burning, a day of desolation, of weeping, of mourning, and of lamentation; and as a whirlwind it shall come upon all the face of the earth, saith the Lord.
And upon my house shall it begin, and from my house shall it go forth, saith the Lord;
First among those among you, saith the Lord, who have professed to know my name and have not known me, and have blasphemed against me in the midst of my house, saith the Lord. (D&C 112:24-26)
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
…that he might be revealed in his time. (2 Thessalonians 2:1, 3-4, 6, 7)
While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the ark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning. (D&C 85:8)
Why work so hard for a jesus that was warned about in matthew 24, by Jesus? He warned this would happen in the last days. Its obvious this church is not of God ,it is of man. God resists the proud. any one that believes they are going to become a god is incredibly arrogant.
"God told me to tell you..." "God is omnipotent, why not just tell me himself? I would love to hear it" "Uh, God told me to tell you he doesn't wanna--anyway he also told me to tell you that he has looked at the polling and decided to make some changes so we can grow our $100 Billion treasure fund and expand our chain of tacky discount cathedrals."
@@DustinLaGriza that was one of the weirdest things to me when I first went through a mormon temple!
Q: "Why is this all covered in gold? I thought you Mormon's criticised other religions for showing off wealth in church buildings?"
A: "Ah, well the temple is different. This is God's house so needs to reflect his glory!"
Q: "... Why does God have such tacky taste about what looks like 'glory'? This looks like Donald Trump designed it..."
A: "Please move along, you're holding people up..."
Q: "Is that a 10 foot gold plated graven image of some guy you've stuck up on tye very top of...."
A: "Move along please!"
@picklesadventures - The "some guy" you reference is the same guy that John referenced in the Bible in the Book of Revelation in chapter 14 when he said that an angel would proclaim the gospel to all the earth. That was the scriptural basis for putting an angel blowing a trumpet on top of Temples. Latter-day Saints don't consider it a graven image of worship because we don't worship statues, or paintings. We worship the Savior Jesus Christ.
@@micheleh3851 that only covers the rule don't worship graven images. The one before it says don't make any. And seriously, gold plating someone and putting them on TOP of the temple doesn't give you "golden calf" vibes? What's your definition of "not worshipping" something? I think making it massive, colouring him gold, and putting him on top of your temples is pretty worship-y. He was even your church's logo until very recently. I remember. Just because your church removes stuff doesn't mean the rest of the world forgets. It's only obedient Mormon's that pretend things never existed once they've been changed.
@@picklesadventures - I haven't forgotten either. No, Moroni doesn't give me golden calf vibes because #1, he looks like a man and not a cow, and #2, the graven image in the 10 Commandments refers to men creating with their own hands an idol as a god to worship. Latter-day Saints know God already exists and we don't create Him. He created us. We also don't worship Moroni. As I said, the statues on top of the Temples are to represent proclaiming the Gospel. I bet when you see crosses on top of churches you don't consider those crosses to be graven images or assume anyone is worshipping a cross. It's only significant by what it represents. Same principle with temple statues. We also have statues of Jesus Christ at some of our Temple visitor centers, but no one is bowing down worshipping a statue of marble. Those are to add aesthetic reverence only. We know Christ is the resurrected Lord who resides at the right hand of The Father in Heaven.
@@micheleh3851 wow. You've got a lot of excuses. Hey, don't worry about it. There's no god so he's not going to damn you for putting someone else's statue on his temple anyway. You know, like he destroyed so many for putting up statues of others in his temple in OT times... Repeatedly... Which is why he had to make a commandment to stop putting statues of others in his temple... Because they believed in main God/Yahweh too. They just kept putting other statues in the temple. But mormons ignore all that .... (sorry, I mean mormons have lots of reasons why that's totally, totally, different) 😂
2:04 a church that cannot stand to a little criticism is not much of a church at all, so I actually applaud you for being critical. Here are some reasons for why President Nelson said that that you may have overlooked.
We do not worship Mormon. And by having that nickname some people think that we did, rather than who we truly worship, that being our Savior Jesus Christ and Heavenly Father. Most of our nicknames actually took out the name of Jesus Christ, who is central to yours and my salvation. It's a matter of respect and gratitude.
Here's another thing you may not really realize. We have been persecuted, criticized, mocked and killed since Joseph Smith restored the gospel on the earth. Do you think some polls that show people don't like us are going to cause us to change in any way? That's nothing new.
Either way, I enjoyed the video and the comments, I believe that God loves you more than you can possibly comprehend and that he has provided a way for you to find joy and make it to the kingdom of heaven ❤❤
I ask you this: why do you think you're criticized?
@inspiringk5191 What proof do you have?
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The motivating factor is always Money. The $200 Billion corporation sole of the "President of the Church of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"
The only true church and nothing else
Leave the cult
I used to believe that same indoctrinated bs….. for 55 yrs. So much happier now I woke up
If that's the case then god is incompetitent. Why have the ONLY true church consist of 0.002% of the world's population? 8 BILLION people are not mormon and billions never got a chance to even hear the Mormon church existed. That was his plan? If so. Seems Satan is smarter than God. God only managed to let a tiny, tiny, tiny handful of people know the truth during their lives. That seems pointless. Why have 8 billion people on the planet and practically none of them even have access to this truth? "Oh well, we're getting baptised for them when they are dead!" That's what God came up with? We won't let anyone know the truth except for this small group of people then they can do proxy baptisms to fix the loophole... What a stupid plan.
Yeah no. It definitely isn't.
@@Malphasia up yours
Fortunately, I was born in Los Angeles in the '60's and NEVER used the name Mormon, I couldn't stand it!! I've corrected people and have told them to use the name we have in the name of our church, for members: Saints, or Latter-day Saints. Ironically, the word Mormons, or Momon as a group, never appears in the Book of Mormon and the church has almost never used the name, it's primary used by enemies of the church and religious bigots. It's no rebrand, it's a reminder to use the correct name.
Previous prophets would strongly disagree with you.
Behold, they will crucify him; and after he is laid in a sepulchre for the space of three days he shall rise from the dead, with healing in his wings; and all those who shall believe on his name shall be saved in the kingdom of God. Wherefore, my soul delighteth to prophesy concerning him, for I have seen his day, and my heart doth magnify his holy name.
You think Jesus has wings? You mean, like women's sanitary pads? "Jesus was just normal, but now comes with wings! " That's a weird belief to have. Maybe that explains why women don't have to do the ritual Jewish temple cleansing any more though when on their period? Now that Jesus "has wings" they are no longer "unclean" whenever Aunt Flo comes to visit. That's weird though. Mormon's have weird teachings. Jesus now comes with wings...
book of mormon quotes here don't make any sense
@@Donnie-Lee-Gringo they do. It's a mormon coping mechanism. If you don't have a rational answer. Quote a scripture.
@@Donnie-Lee-Gringo Book of Mormon quotes make sense ANYWHERE. Because it is true.
I agree with Russell Nelson, this is the Church of Jesus Christ, Mormon is just a prophet, so why popularize a nickname?
Because the name is tooo looong? Say Mormon, it's two syllables.
@@charlesmendeley9823 There are many English words with two syllables but it doesn't mean that we need to use those as nicknames instead of the official name. For me, the abbreviation LDS is okay when you want to go short.
The nickname Mormon carries a negative connotation because it was originally made up by Church haters. Later on it became neutral, but I agree with President Nelson that it's time to go back to the official name, as long as Jesus himself pronounces it in the Book of Mormon.
However, I still use the nickname from time to time after the official name of the church because some of my friends recognize it by the nickname due to historical reasons.
The real problem is it was once okay just one prophet ago and now it's not.
This is the church of what's-happening-now, not some eternal never-changing church.
So pick your prophet, Gordon B. Hinkley or Russel Nelson because they contradict each-other.
@@vitalykartavykh1003 the nickname is probably due to Mosiah 18:30. 🤣
@@markmidwest7092 We believe in ongoing revelation. Now Russel Nelson is the prophet, so he definitely trumps Gordon Hinkley as Nelson is receiving revelations for our time period.
Funny how conntention seakers, christ said no to contend, don't spend years to see what christ original church taught, in 100 years after christ, 300 diff types, today, 7500, I spent years still learn original teachings, try it you like, if you need help lds person forgives and helps, love your neighbor, if those who persecute. Lot of lies in this vid.
What parts of this video are lies? I’d be happy to direct you to my sources.
@@Glass-Looker The truth causes contention.
A.I. narrated garbage.
The church of JESUS CHRIST of later day saints!
Satan followers will never understand!
By that logic, you still got it wrong. Why isn't it the Church of Yeshua?
Yes. Yes I agree. Satan's followers can never understand when they are in the wrong. We absolutely agree on that... 👍
The Jesus that Mormons talk about is not the Jesus of the Bible, they do not believe Jesus is God.
@@johnmarquardt1991 you need to remember, jesus being god is just your interpretation. "See! It says the word was god! See!" Mormon's aren't the only ones that don't believe in the trinity. In fact, that only became the "mainstream" view hundreds of years after Jesus death. The Marcionites, Ebionites, Gnostics and more all did not believe in the trinity initially. It became the dogma around the end of the 4th century, hundreds of years after Jesus. and even today not all faiths agree on it. If things were decided on being true by who had the most believers, then you'd have a really messed up
... Oh, wait...that is how it is... Ask the top scholars on New Testament studies. Jesus claiming to be god in the (very, very very differently written) gospels is a debate, not a fact. So don't be so arrogant as to point at someone else's weird beliefs without holding up a mirror to your own.
@@picklesadventures There is no debate whether Jesus is God - Jesus is God - the Alpha and Omega. Jesus said himself that he and the Father are one. All three members of the Holy Trinity were at the baptism of Jesus. You're believing the fantasy of a con artist and abuser of women - who built a religion out of the teachings of Islam and the rituals of Free Masonry. Praise be the Holy Trinity. There is time for you to repent - spending eternity in Hell will not be enjoyable for you.
Fantastic! I think you nailed it. Rebrand is not from God and definitely from public opinion polls. Sadly, the teaching that prophets would be taken from the Earth before they would lead us astray has definitely proven to be false. If that were a true principle there would be a daily or weekly turnover in the Q15. 😂
Great info! Keep up the good work!
@Qiseeker - Since when has the Church ever cared about public opinion? The Church's history would suggest that from Joseph Smith to the present day, no prophet has ever made decisions based on popular public opinion. Unlike this UA-cam video which talks about re-branding and dresses Russell Nelson in pope attire. Do you really think the creator of this channel cares one way or the other what the Church is called? People would criticize us even if we had never used the nickname Mormon. If you honestly think the Q15 have gone astray, then I invite you to sincerely pray in faith as Joseph Smith did that you can know which Church to join. God won't let you down.