No matter what happens to Luton, they deserve credit. People wrote them off by saying that they would break Derby record of 11 points. They managed to make their games entertaining and they did the basics by defending well and utilising Doughty's amazing crosses
Luton has reminded me a lot of Blackpool under Ian Holloway all them years ago. They have the same dogged fighting spirit and have certainly surprised a few teams. Sadly, however, similarly to Blackpool, I think they might just fall short at the last.
@@SirRyan31 so that’s a fuckin lie - he wore a suit in the all-German final in 2013 and sporadically during that European run Just say you hate Liverpool, you bitter child
@@Vizehnah mate, keep him at everton next season, then he can go to bayer leverkusen the season after, so they can have another invincible season. They can win THE treble, Bundesliga, DFB pokal , champions league
@@VizehAs a Forest fan, I’d suggest you ain’t been paying attention mate. Burnley will survive. We are at their place last game of the season. If we aren’t already down by then, we will be after that. Burnley aren’t a bad side.
never going to forget in my FM 2022 save where sean dyche became real madrid manager and in 8 years at the club he won a single supercopa. FM is random like that sometimes
What is ironic is how much they pushed against the Toon in the first half at St James' Park. Smashed 8-0 with barely a whimper at Bramwell, but take the lead and could have had another 3 give or take easy. Now, sure it was the 8-0 game around when Toon players started dropping like flies and the return there's neay a starting 11 out including Pope, but the Toon in the 5-1 were still a capable bunch. Bruno, Isak, Gordon, Schär, Tino, Hall etc. So a lot of credit is due to Sheff Utd for that 1st half. Shame for their fans that when they have played like that they usually crumbled early enough to suffer. If that first half was their full 90 minutes in all their games, they'd be safe long ago. Part the problem though has been the lack of a clinical forward line, but when owners don't invest after that leap, you're going to suffer.
@@captainhybrid4045Yep, bang on. We've had some abysmal performances this season, but some half decent ones too, but always with half a dozen defensive cock ups in the mix, especially in the second half.
No, if the teams that got the deductions had acted within in the rules their squads wouldn't be as strong at they are, so they would have fewer points. Simple.
@@blockayethe2nd220 Forest had no intention of breaking any rules last year and the reason for going over ffp was not really our fault at least in my opinion. At the end of the summer transfer window, we needed to sell johnson to comply with ffp. Before the ffp deadline, we received offers from Brentford and Atheltico madrid which would have put is within the rules. However, forest knew that if we sold johnson a few days later we could get much money, which did come true with spurs making a bid. This would put the sale after the ffp deadline. For whatever stupid reasok, the ffp deadline is before the end of the transfer window which is frankly ridiculous to me. So Forest asked the premier league if it was okay to wait until after the ffp deadline to sell johnson and the premier league said it was fine and we would still be within the rules. So, we went ahead with it and sold johnson for a good price and should have been within ffp. Then the premier league took a u turn and deemed us as cheats and then you know how the story goes. Is this really fair?
The problem with this year is 2 clubs have lost points for a supposed crimes the top 6 commit on regular basis and get away with. The fair play rules on finance make poor clubs poor and the top 6 more and more rich. Plus Everton financial problems is they building a new ground and part the money was financed by a Russian Company Owner and the government made dealing with them illegal leaving Everton with a huge hole in its bank account.
Check your facts matey, we, The Arsenal have obeyed the FP rules way back into Wengers reign. Many of us think his refusal to do what some were doing cost us dear in silverware terms! Bob England Gooner
As an Everton fan i reckon dyche has a chance to bring us forward, you dont get the second most clean sheets if you arent doing somewhat of an alright job, without the deductions i think the December moment would have carried us further and wed be a already mid table team
I don’t watch you every week but from what I have seen I think you need a boring year or two under dyche finishing mid table not worrying about relegation and maybe pushing for Europe, if you don’t then think about replacing him, but I can’t see why you would drop him when you’re only barely away from the oh are Everton going to go down this year period.
Losing to Newcastle on Saturday relegated us. And barring the chance that, by some miracle, we manage our first clean sheet this season, we'll have shipped more than 100 goals too. Excuse me while I go cry into my Henderson's relish...
@Amber1eaf1 Yeah so shit that almost every game has been close, and is living proof that good recruitment can beat money splashing and financial cheats.
The thing that has killed us (Luton) this season is the injury crisis, Vizeh mentioned it and yes we are just about getting some of those players back but the effects the crisis has had on the team as a whole is damming, the moment the ball is kicked at the start of a game we look knackered so we can't play our style of football otherwise we'll risk injuries and it means we can't defend as well. Super unfortunate but there's been definining moments this season, like Bournemouth away, that we've been on the wrong side of every single time and even though most games we could be proud of our team because we've played well that doesn't give us points and is why we are in the place we are right now. Also, only winning 1 game since beating Brighton 4-0 at the end of January is telling of how our form fell off a cliff following Christmas.
@@imamsuchapro6114 I know we can still survive, I think if we don’t beat Everton we’re all but down. However, the performances since we beat Bournemouth have just demonstrated how tired we are and honestly any more performances similar to those against Brentford and Wolves (excluding the final 15 minutes) then there’s no way I see us winning any of our remaining games. But here’s hoping I’m wrong
@@imamsuchapro6114 that’s true although I don’t think Adebayo can play 90 minutes, definitely not against Everton maybe against West Ham and at the very least Fulham but anything he can give will definitely help us
As a Mag I fully understand that injury problem. Also as a Mag, I've actually been routing for Luton's survival. If you do drop I personally believe it won't be long before getting back up. So if you get relegated, please don't take too long in coming back to the EPL.
@@VizehI think so with the comments forest made they won’t get as many decisions. you’re gaining a point a game at least. One win will save you. But summer you need to find a striker. Gk not so much he just needs confidence.
@@Dropkickurteacher I could be wrong, but I think they’ll go down playing decent Sheffield United. that’s only a thought, though. If they can get a draw which forest it’s still puts Burnley in a great position.
I feel like, if forest and everton didn’t overspend, they’d have more passion and result in more points. But a statement I will stand by is that both passion and quality wise, 22/23 forest was better than 23/24 forest.
You not watch Everton team and fans at the derby on Wednesday? What you mean more passion lol. How does overspending by 19m on stadium loan interest affect passion. The points deductions are the only reason there is a good relegation battle this year and it’s brought more passion out of the bottom clubs if anything.
Forest definitely have a better team than last season but the consistency just isn't there. When they are on their A game they game comfortably beat top half teams
Oddly, I think the points deduction did Everton a favour. Without a doubt proved they deserve to be up given how often they've circled the drain over recent years at times.
Everton didn't even overspend that much. Moshiri maybe refused to cut in some FA executive on the takeover deal. They won't approve the takeover, then blame the club and put it into administration.
Dyche has to be back next season. He’s gotten the most out of this squad and shown flashes of quick fluid football these past few games. Excited for next season
It was only two seasons ago and their previous season in the Premier League, that Sheffield United equaled Derby County's record of least goals scored in a season being 20. Now they look likely to be breaking Swindon's record this season.
I hope Luton Town stay up, truly would be a wonderful story. However, if they stay up this season, I'm not too sure if they will survive the 24/25 season. I think Burnley has the best long term project out of those 3 teams if they manage to stay up.
Forest will definitely be better for the EPL in the long run. Largest fanbase of the 3, most successful of the 3 & have the ability to scale the entire club up.
While finding that the Toon have lost the most days to injuries this season (1,658) I found Luton lost 1,160. Shame for Luton it isn't the league table on points, they'd be 10th. So for a team in the EPL for the first time during the EPL era of top flight football, via playoffs, with the stadium capacity and so on, you've done remarkably well. From this Mag I have been routing for Luton to survive, if they don't I have a feeling they'll be back up soon.
Always rated Dyche, we're lucky to have him imo. He exceeds my expectations of him and anything he gives us more than survival is a bonus at this point :D
it'd be great to see luton stay up, they have been fantastic this season for the scale of their club and really subverted what we all thought they'd be like
Dyche is the right man at the right time. He's the only stable thing at the club. Give him the next 1 or 2 seasons more and reassess based on performance.
As a Forest fan, i find this relegation battle particularly heartbreaking, because i genuinely would be happy for Burnley and Luton to stay up, but now that can only happen at Forest's expense. I agree with your opinion that the quality of the prem is at an overall high this season. Ive noticed exactly that watching a lot of mid to low table games this seasons how much quality a lot of these teams and players actually have. They just get unlucky; Forest especially. If we stay up, i hope we escape relegation earlier next season so i dont have to be this stressed all the time. But im worried if we dont escape we wont make it back to the prem for a while
whatever team stays up it will have the lowest points tally for a surviving team, unless Forrest wins the last 3 on the bounce... 34 points is the worst team ever to survive
As an Everton we need to keep Dyche he has taken a very poor side with little budget to staying up with 3 games left after an 8 point deduction and if we didnt have a deduction and a very poor run of form through the middle of the season we could be challenging for european places right now
I think Nottingham has to stay up. They have 2 games against sides in the area plus an advantageous goal difference. They also get to play Chelsea and they’re just jokes As for Everton I think they would be best to stick with Dyche until they’re out of their financial woes. Dyche is scrappy and will take 2 sticks and a rock and make a fucking wall. He’d keep them out of relegation until they can move onto challenging. If I’m wrong than I’ll be damned but it makes no sense to move ok just yet
What's going wrong with Forest is our set piece defense. We wouldn't be anywhere near relegation if we hadn't conceded from so many corners / free kicks this season.
Given how we don't seem to be playing well atm ourselves, think you've got a chance next week haha. Sure we scored 5, but that was more down to Sheff falling apart if anything. Good luck though.
Still amazing that Sheffield United got promoted and sold 2 of if not their best 2 players right before the season started and their owner was actively trying to sell the club at least during the beginning of the season
i think that sean dyche should keep managing everton for the next 2 or 3 seasons. if they didn't get the point deduction, they would have 45+ points. they've been playing aggressively, which is their strong point, so i believe that sean dyche can lead everton to a mid table club... unlike Frank Lampard.
@Vizeh Exactly. What if Forest manages to appeal the points deduction in time before the end of the season? They're just playing with my emotions too much
Luton fan here. I'd be lying in saying I have much hope, been using the excuse of the injury list but we have had 2 games now where we had some big players return, in Lokonga and Osho, only for us to go lose 5-1 to Brentford. Wolves wasnt bad and when Adebayo made it on, we looked like a team that can win games again. So maybe if Adebayo plays the 90 vs Everton we have a chance but its do or die right now. Either way I wont be all that sad as I did not expect to be in this position and we have done ourselves so proud but making 80% of loses really difficult for our opponents. Plus if we truly get a winner takes all match Notts vs Burnley, would be pretty insane tbf.
I'd honestly say i think that Dyche can take us forward. I think that if he can sort out our goalscoring situation we can challenge for Europe. Also, son't forget we are literally challenging for top 10 right now disregarding deductions
I am an Evertonian I am glad that we survived, because relegation could completely destroy my club. Smaller clubs like Burnley don't really suffer from relegation. But getting relegated is a bad feeling, even if I don't know it.
Funniest thing would be Burnley staying up after weeks of Vizeh "we're already relegated/no VAR in the championship/ i'd rather go down better games for us" xD Cheering for you guys then, hope you stay up!
Think Forest survive comfortably to be honest. They just need the one win realistically due to the goal difference. Burnley would have to beat Newcastle and Forest at that point and asking for 2 in 3 wins after 5 in 35 is... optimistic.
Forest will be fine. Burnley still gotta go to spurs, and host Newcastle. Forest should be able to get a result at Sheffield Saturday. Luton will lose at Everton on Friday.
As a Forest fan, don’t worry mate. Burnley will stay up. They outplayed us twice early on this season and,in my view will beat us last game of the season.
@@robertbrown6060 only hope i see is if we manage to beat sheffu and chelsea which by then we would be safe i think but i agree in that i dont think we will beat burnley away
I want Forest to stay up so that they're hit with more points deductions next season. It'd help to have them and Leicester also starting on minus points if PSR comes for Everton again.
If Muric had started from the beginning of the season, Burnley definitely stays up. Trafford is good on the ball, but he has definitely cost Burnley with his poor shot stopping.
Yo great vid with mike frm BlueBoyz, not sure about dyche except if we had our points back and we win our nxt 2 against luton and sheff utd we would have 50 pts. That exceeds my expectations
I watched Luton a lot this year because they are very entertaining and give everything every game. I rather see them staying in the PL instead of Forest.
You're right, relegation battle is what actually makes this sport special. Like, everyone's known that Man City is winning the league since the start of the season. Arsenal fans can fool themselves all they want, but it's true. Now, the relegation battle is when things get interesting. I hope those two relegation spots will be free by the last matchday, all eyes on the relegation threatened teams
Forest fan here. Dumb, pointless and potentially harmful press releases aside, we have had big highs and big lows. Players drifting in and out of form, teams around us pulling up trees. Great support as always but not super convinced about half the first team. The best and worse of days.
Well, Down: Joining S.U Luton Burnley Everton: S.D is not a Premier League manager Points Deduction: what you on about? For starters it was a two stage deduction to get to 8 and they still have some to come next season! No comparison can be made as who knows the mind set at 16 points or at 0 deduction?? Forest: The player purchases gamble seems it may well be a wise move?? Luton: Injuries……. every team has them! Look at the players, physios and doctor. Then everyone can and should buy players ( see Notts Forest) and if a team doesn’t then there will be a price to pay!! Mismanagement in so many places?? And a manager who seems to see a very different match to all naturally thinking people! Bob England Gooner of life long standing and believe me it’s very hard supporting a team who are expected to do well is very hard both watching, listening to ‘pundits’???? And folk who know you!
As a West Brom Fan I'm looking to who is going down and thinking our crap our chances of going up are getting harder as one of Leeds, Ipswich or Southampton can't go up, Hull, Norwich, Us, Coventry maybe, Plus Maybe Luton, Forest or Burnley will be up there I don't factor in Sheffield United as who knows what will happen there. Yeah we might have investment but we still have issues from the old owners.
I’m a claret through and through but I don’t know if I want us to stay up, it’s been such a hard season to watch and seeing VAR mess up everyone’s games kinda makes me wanna see us get relegated. I guess I’m indifferent, cool if we stay up, cool if we go down
No matter what happens to Luton, they deserve credit. People wrote them off by saying that they would break Derby record of 11 points. They managed to make their games entertaining and they did the basics by defending well and utilising Doughty's amazing crosses
That absolutely
How many times have VAR screwed them over? 0 times
Luton has reminded me a lot of Blackpool under Ian Holloway all them years ago. They have the same dogged fighting spirit and have certainly surprised a few teams. Sadly, however, similarly to Blackpool, I think they might just fall short at the last.
@@ArchieSimpson-s8e are you perhaps a nffc fan?
That's a good thing mate@@ArchieSimpson-s8e
Leicester's title miracle has nothing on Dyche wearing a track suit 🥶
The games gone
I mean it's Leicester City, no way were they not going to get promoted
@@Amaterasu-zl5yh i think he means the 2015-16 title win...
@@randomdude0121 I think he means when your mom did it with your sister
Dyche in a tracksuit has to be the rarest occurence in football, Jurgen had one on as well
Dyche Invincibles is on!
We've never seen that bum klopp in a suit not even for a UCL FINAL his a scrubb
@@SirRyan31 so that’s a fuckin lie - he wore a suit in the all-German final in 2013 and sporadically during that European run
Just say you hate Liverpool, you bitter child
If Dyche wears a tracksuit for all of next season, we’d go invincible.
Sean Dyche at the Nou Camp, I need to see that
@@Vizehnah mate, keep him at everton next season, then he can go to bayer leverkusen the season after, so they can have another invincible season. They can win THE treble, Bundesliga, DFB pokal , champions league
@@TJHOOKER-xu4nhluton is gonna beat everton Friday night must watch
@@SirRyan31 not if dyche wears the trackie 🤣🤣
I Agree 😂@@TJHOOKER-xu4nh
As an everton fan, i'm happy to have escaped relegation battle. As a human, I am afraid to see what happens in the streets of sheffield and burnley
Sheffield are probably celebrating having no VAR pal
@@VizehAs a Forest fan, I’d suggest you ain’t been paying attention mate. Burnley will survive. We are at their place last game of the season. If we aren’t already down by then, we will be after that. Burnley aren’t a bad side.
@@robertbrown6060forest are well better than Burnley. You could have scored a few against city yesterday, wood out here missing sitters.
@@robertbrown6060 You can root for the mighty Leicester City next season.
never going to forget in my FM 2022 save where sean dyche became real madrid manager and in 8 years at the club he won a single supercopa. FM is random like that sometimes
Random more so on mobile I can tell you, but back when I could play on a laptop, I remember occasional moments like that.
😂this comment cracked me up
Its ironic that Newcastle started the spanking that Sheffield united receive every week with that 0-8 and they relegate them with a 5-1 bartering
Really harsh ain't it
What is ironic is how much they pushed against the Toon in the first half at St James' Park.
Smashed 8-0 with barely a whimper at Bramwell, but take the lead and could have had another 3 give or take easy.
Now, sure it was the 8-0 game around when Toon players started dropping like flies and the return there's neay a starting 11 out including Pope, but the Toon in the 5-1 were still a capable bunch. Bruno, Isak, Gordon, Schär, Tino, Hall etc. So a lot of credit is due to Sheff Utd for that 1st half. Shame for their fans that when they have played like that they usually crumbled early enough to suffer.
If that first half was their full 90 minutes in all their games, they'd be safe long ago.
Part the problem though has been the lack of a clinical forward line, but when owners don't invest after that leap, you're going to suffer.
@@captainhybrid4045Yep, bang on. We've had some abysmal performances this season, but some half decent ones too, but always with half a dozen defensive cock ups in the mix, especially in the second half.
13-1 on aggregate 😂😂
point deductions are only reason there is a proper relegation battle
@@PvtVallen they would’ve been locked if the went unpunished I don’t see the issue
No, if the teams that got the deductions had acted within in the rules their squads wouldn't be as strong at they are, so they would have fewer points. Simple.
@@blockayethe2nd220Punished for what exactly?
@@JimmyJr630 for breaking the rules, reply below me said it perfectly
@@blockayethe2nd220 Forest had no intention of breaking any rules last year and the reason for going over ffp was not really our fault at least in my opinion. At the end of the summer transfer window, we needed to sell johnson to comply with ffp. Before the ffp deadline, we received offers from Brentford and Atheltico madrid which would have put is within the rules. However, forest knew that if we sold johnson a few days later we could get much money, which did come true with spurs making a bid. This would put the sale after the ffp deadline. For whatever stupid reasok, the ffp deadline is before the end of the transfer window which is frankly ridiculous to me. So Forest asked the premier league if it was okay to wait until after the ffp deadline to sell johnson and the premier league said it was fine and we would still be within the rules. So, we went ahead with it and sold johnson for a good price and should have been within ffp. Then the premier league took a u turn and deemed us as cheats and then you know how the story goes. Is this really fair?
The problem with this year is 2 clubs have lost points for a supposed crimes the top 6 commit on regular basis and get away with. The fair play rules on finance make poor clubs poor and the top 6 more and more rich. Plus Everton financial problems is they building a new ground and part the money was financed by a Russian Company Owner and the government made dealing with them illegal leaving Everton with a huge hole in its bank account.
Check your facts matey, we, The Arsenal have obeyed the FP rules way back into Wengers reign. Many of us think his refusal to do what some were doing cost us dear in silverware terms!
Bob
England
Gooner
As an Everton fan i reckon dyche has a chance to bring us forward, you dont get the second most clean sheets if you arent doing somewhat of an alright job, without the deductions i think the December moment would have carried us further and wed be a already mid table team
I don’t watch you every week but from what I have seen I think you need a boring year or two under dyche finishing mid table not worrying about relegation and maybe pushing for Europe, if you don’t then think about replacing him, but I can’t see why you would drop him when you’re only barely away from the oh are Everton going to go down this year period.
Even now without deductions everton is 13th or something and almost all the remaining games are winnable.
Except shefield United, all the teams involved in relegation battle are looking threatening.
Sheff is already relegated
Losing to Newcastle on Saturday relegated us. And barring the chance that, by some miracle, we manage our first clean sheet this season, we'll have shipped more than 100 goals too. Excuse me while I go cry into my Henderson's relish...
@@mhdbh437 that's why they excluded Sheffield 🤦♂
Burnley doesnt really look theeatening
@@mathmagician155 theyre in the best form atm of the relegation candidates
Dyche should stay. He’s brought relative stability on the field and we should continue that structure.
Agreed. Even skeptics have to consider him a miracle worker with this mess.
Agreed people complain about this style of play i honestly don't mind it
Burnley have the toughest fixtures compared to Forest and Luton, GW 38 Burnley v Forest will be insane!
That would be incredible
The blood pressure of the both sets of supporters will be insane 😭
I think I speak for everyone when I say we’re rooting for Luton’s survival
Not at all. Infact that is stupid knowing there are forest and Burnley fans who need them down.
As a Forest fan I can say this isn’t true
U'd be surprised haha, obvs u got Forest, Burnley and Watford fans, plus the top 6 snobs usually want us down too
I don't want luton in the prem they're so shit they dilute the league.
@Amber1eaf1 Yeah so shit that almost every game has been close, and is living proof that good recruitment can beat money splashing and financial cheats.
The thing that has killed us (Luton) this season is the injury crisis, Vizeh mentioned it and yes we are just about getting some of those players back but the effects the crisis has had on the team as a whole is damming, the moment the ball is kicked at the start of a game we look knackered so we can't play our style of football otherwise we'll risk injuries and it means we can't defend as well. Super unfortunate but there's been definining moments this season, like Bournemouth away, that we've been on the wrong side of every single time and even though most games we could be proud of our team because we've played well that doesn't give us points and is why we are in the place we are right now. Also, only winning 1 game since beating Brighton 4-0 at the end of January is telling of how our form fell off a cliff following Christmas.
luton can still survive bro
@@imamsuchapro6114 I know we can still survive, I think if we don’t beat Everton we’re all but down. However, the performances since we beat Bournemouth have just demonstrated how tired we are and honestly any more performances similar to those against Brentford and Wolves (excluding the final 15 minutes) then there’s no way I see us winning any of our remaining games. But here’s hoping I’m wrong
@@benltfc8462 I mean with adebayo back Luton has a good chance and as soon as he came on a goal and osho is also fit
@@imamsuchapro6114 that’s true although I don’t think Adebayo can play 90 minutes, definitely not against Everton maybe against West Ham and at the very least Fulham but anything he can give will definitely help us
As a Mag I fully understand that injury problem.
Also as a Mag, I've actually been routing for Luton's survival. If you do drop I personally believe it won't be long before getting back up.
So if you get relegated, please don't take too long in coming back to the EPL.
relegation battle is sealed now, burnley, luton and sheffield are all guaranteed to go down
According to bookmakers, these are the chances for teams to get relegated:
Burnley 87.5%
Luton 81.8%
Nottingham Forrest 36.4%
Brentford 0.2%
When were those made?
Aren't Brentford mathematically safe now? 10 points above drop with 3 games left
@@lolathon3868 Yeah that's true lmao. I wonder why it's still available on PaddyPower's website even as of now
@@lolathon3868you would be correct
@@LazarouDave Ahh thanks mate, yea I was really confused as to why they still had a percentage😂
City will go down they will get a 115 point deduction tomorrow
I think burnley is setting themselves up for a rescue . Plus last game of the season is forest
I hope so too
@@VizehI think so with the comments forest made they won’t get as many decisions. you’re gaining a point a game at least. One win will save you. But summer you need to find a striker. Gk not so much he just needs confidence.
That’s if Luton loses to Everton and if Sheffield United loses
@@Dropkickurteacher I could be wrong, but I think they’ll go down playing decent Sheffield United. that’s only a thought, though. If they can get a draw which forest it’s still puts Burnley in a great position.
Luton can be proud of themselves. They did better then anyone expected and I can see them returning soon
I’d love for Vinny and co to stay up, you lot deserve it
I feel like, if forest and everton didn’t overspend, they’d have more passion and result in more points. But a statement I will stand by is that both passion and quality wise, 22/23 forest was better than 23/24 forest.
Fair lad
You not watch Everton team and fans at the derby on Wednesday? What you mean more passion lol. How does overspending by 19m on stadium loan interest affect passion. The points deductions are the only reason there is a good relegation battle this year and it’s brought more passion out of the bottom clubs if anything.
Forest definitely have a better team than last season but the consistency just isn't there. When they are on their A game they game comfortably beat top half teams
Oddly, I think the points deduction did Everton a favour. Without a doubt proved they deserve to be up given how often they've circled the drain over recent years at times.
Everton didn't even overspend that much. Moshiri maybe refused to cut in some FA executive on the takeover deal. They won't approve the takeover, then blame the club and put it into administration.
Dyche has to be back next season. He’s gotten the most out of this squad and shown flashes of quick fluid football these past few games. Excited for next season
It was only two seasons ago and their previous season in the Premier League, that Sheffield United equaled Derby County's record of least goals scored in a season being 20. Now they look likely to be breaking Swindon's record this season.
I hope Luton Town stay up, truly would be a wonderful story. However, if they stay up this season, I'm not too sure if they will survive the 24/25 season. I think Burnley has the best long term project out of those 3 teams if they manage to stay up.
I agree, I really hope Luton stays up but if they do, I fear they'll get "second season syndrome" and do very very poorly
Forest will definitely be better for the EPL in the long run. Largest fanbase of the 3, most successful of the 3 & have the ability to scale the entire club up.
As a long-suffering toffee, I can say good luck to all three teams
What happened to Luton was thousands upon thousands of injuries.
While finding that the Toon have lost the most days to injuries this season (1,658) I found Luton lost 1,160. Shame for Luton it isn't the league table on points, they'd be 10th.
So for a team in the EPL for the first time during the EPL era of top flight football, via playoffs, with the stadium capacity and so on, you've done remarkably well.
From this Mag I have been routing for Luton to survive, if they don't I have a feeling they'll be back up soon.
"being done at home more times than my mom according to xbox live mw2 party chat" got me rolling on the floor 😭😂
Always rated Dyche, we're lucky to have him imo. He exceeds my expectations of him and anything he gives us more than survival is a bonus at this point :D
Luton have been a breath of fresh air! Sad to see them go.
I honestly want Burnley to stay up , soley to see what they look like in year 3 of the kompany project and how they adapt to the prem
As a Nottingham Forest fan, I want to believe we’re safe, but given our record, I think we’re on our way down lol.
it'd be great to see luton stay up, they have been fantastic this season for the scale of their club and really subverted what we all thought they'd be like
Dyche is the right man at the right time. He's the only stable thing at the club. Give him the next 1 or 2 seasons more and reassess based on performance.
I want to see Tottenham lose to Burnley to see Vizeh’s joy and Expression’s rage for my pure football UA-camr entertainment 😂
it’s really annoying that nobody knows, but just a few weeks ago luton only had 13 fit players, yet everyone thinks we are just awful
But that’s why you invest in squad depth.
A very fair assessment, I'm Forest so hope we get away with it despite the embarrassing self inflicted publicity - good luck bud.
As a Forest fan, i find this relegation battle particularly heartbreaking, because i genuinely would be happy for Burnley and Luton to stay up, but now that can only happen at Forest's expense. I agree with your opinion that the quality of the prem is at an overall high this season. Ive noticed exactly that watching a lot of mid to low table games this seasons how much quality a lot of these teams and players actually have. They just get unlucky; Forest especially. If we stay up, i hope we escape relegation earlier next season so i dont have to be this stressed all the time. But im worried if we dont escape we wont make it back to the prem for a while
whatever team stays up it will have the lowest points tally for a surviving team, unless Forrest wins the last 3 on the bounce... 34 points is the worst team ever to survive
As an Everton we need to keep Dyche he has taken a very poor side with little budget to staying up with 3 games left after an 8 point deduction and if we didnt have a deduction and a very poor run of form through the middle of the season we could be challenging for european places right now
I think Nottingham has to stay up. They have 2 games against sides in the area plus an advantageous goal difference. They also get to play Chelsea and they’re just jokes
As for Everton I think they would be best to stick with Dyche until they’re out of their financial woes. Dyche is scrappy and will take 2 sticks and a rock and make a fucking wall. He’d keep them out of relegation until they can move onto challenging. If I’m wrong than I’ll be damned but it makes no sense to move ok just yet
What's going wrong with Forest is our set piece defense. We wouldn't be anywhere near relegation if we hadn't conceded from so many corners / free kicks this season.
Given how we don't seem to be playing well atm ourselves, think you've got a chance next week haha. Sure we scored 5, but that was more down to Sheff falling apart if anything. Good luck though.
Still amazing that Sheffield United got promoted and sold 2 of if not their best 2 players right before the season started and their owner was actively trying to sell the club at least during the beginning of the season
That's pretty much why they've suffered through the season. Then the owner had the nerve to fire the manager who didn't deserve it.
i think that sean dyche should keep managing everton for the next 2 or 3 seasons. if they didn't get the point deduction, they would have 45+ points. they've been playing aggressively, which is their strong point, so i believe that sean dyche can lead everton to a mid table club... unlike Frank Lampard.
I just hate the way the points deductions are being thrown left and right. Do it in the summer
The fact it can all change with a points result with Forest is so annoying man
@Vizeh Exactly. What if Forest manages to appeal the points deduction in time before the end of the season? They're just playing with my emotions too much
@@animamaster I get it, but forest will be fine.
Come on, Burnley. Stay up. We'll do our best for you against Luton on friday night, hopefully.
Forest was better than city today. Crazy how far down he table they are
Luton fan here. I'd be lying in saying I have much hope, been using the excuse of the injury list but we have had 2 games now where we had some big players return, in Lokonga and Osho, only for us to go lose 5-1 to Brentford. Wolves wasnt bad and when Adebayo made it on, we looked like a team that can win games again.
So maybe if Adebayo plays the 90 vs Everton we have a chance but its do or die right now.
Either way I wont be all that sad as I did not expect to be in this position and we have done ourselves so proud but making 80% of loses really difficult for our opponents.
Plus if we truly get a winner takes all match Notts vs Burnley, would be pretty insane tbf.
As an Everton fan, good luck for the rest of the season. And thanks for the points ;)
I'd honestly say i think that Dyche can take us forward. I think that if he can sort out our goalscoring situation we can challenge for Europe. Also, son't forget we are literally challenging for top 10 right now disregarding deductions
to me this is the best channel on UA-cam I actually live for ur content
I'm just glad Everton stayed up. Been a weird season, Premier League tried to take us down but Dyche told them to do one. 🎉
Give Sean Dyche a chance. Remember, he did get Burnley to the Europa League
As a City fan I have been pulling for Burnley because of Vincent Kompany... Its going to be a tightrope finish!
I am an Evertonian I am glad that we survived, because relegation could completely destroy my club. Smaller clubs like Burnley don't really suffer from relegation. But getting relegated is a bad feeling, even if I don't know it.
Funniest thing would be Burnley staying up after weeks of Vizeh "we're already relegated/no VAR in the championship/ i'd rather go down better games for us" xD
Cheering for you guys then, hope you stay up!
I think Sheffield United, Man City (. 127 point deduction, Luton sadky
17th luton
18th Nottingham forest
19th burnley (sorry Vizeh)
20th sheffield united
Such a relief not being a part of this
Why are Liverpool worried about relegation?
As an everton fan i think that until moshiri leaves the club we should keep dyche
As an Everton fan glad to be out of it. I feel like Burnley are going to pull it off, but my head says forest. Good luck Burnley though.
0:32 that guy besides Dyche really looks like Arne Slot lmao
perfect timing for my meal before work !! thank goodness
What you eating?
@@Vizeh got enough points for a free bacon double cheeseburger burger from burger king
Think Forest survive comfortably to be honest. They just need the one win realistically due to the goal difference. Burnley would have to beat Newcastle and Forest at that point and asking for 2 in 3 wins after 5 in 35 is... optimistic.
Forest will be fine. Burnley still gotta go to spurs, and host Newcastle. Forest should be able to get a result at Sheffield Saturday. Luton will lose at Everton on Friday.
The title races are over in all the leagues now it’s the relegation races which are so interesting.
nobody talks about the fact that notts forest have spent like 300m in the past 2 seasons and for what 2 relegation scraps
I personally want Luton Town to stay up.
Annoying when your team gives you hope after you've written them off isn't it. Makes the fall all that harder.
Luton deserve to stay up, only spent 30 million, never cheated FFP and their fans have been amazing. Never leave early what ever the score
I really hope Burnley stay up I love to see you happy
Awhhh
As a Nottingham Forest fan, I'm conflicted
At one hand, I want us to stay at the PL
At another, I wished this didn't cost Luton Town's staying
Alright with you if we take brown hill when Burnley get relegated mate?
vizeh ur videos are really good and i love an unbiased insight on football. keep it up 👍
Thank you mate
I’d say the table ends like this
17th. Luton
18th. Forest
19th. Burnley
20th. Sheffield United
if my team wasnt in the relegation battle (forest), I would've liked to see burnley stay up
Appreciate that lad
As a Forest fan, don’t worry mate. Burnley will stay up. They outplayed us twice early on this season and,in my view will beat us last game of the season.
@@robertbrown6060 only hope i see is if we manage to beat sheffu and chelsea which by then we would be safe i think but i agree in that i dont think we will beat burnley away
@@JackTodd-q8w I think Sheffield is the critical game. Especially as Luton have Everton.
Burnley and Nottingham Forest, is going to go down to the last day that’s what I think
Isn't VAR being introduced in the championship next season?
Love this Liam, maybe a playoff video next?
I think the bottom half of the table remains the same as it is now until the end of the season tbh
I want Forest to stay up so that they're hit with more points deductions next season. It'd help to have them and Leicester also starting on minus points if PSR comes for Everton again.
As a united fan, I'm shocked on how Burnley couldn't win the game.
If Muric had started from the beginning of the season, Burnley definitely stays up. Trafford is good on the ball, but he has definitely cost Burnley with his poor shot stopping.
Without the points deduction the current bottom 3 have really been cemented down there without much hope
Vizeh yearns for the championship
Yo great vid with mike frm BlueBoyz, not sure about dyche except if we had our points back and we win our nxt 2 against luton and sheff utd we would have 50 pts. That exceeds my expectations
Imagine if Dyche wore a tracksuit when Burnley finished 7th,title challengers the next year
I watched Luton a lot this year because they are very entertaining and give everything every game. I rather see them staying in the PL instead of Forest.
You're right, relegation battle is what actually makes this sport special. Like, everyone's known that Man City is winning the league since the start of the season. Arsenal fans can fool themselves all they want, but it's true. Now, the relegation battle is when things get interesting. I hope those two relegation spots will be free by the last matchday, all eyes on the relegation threatened teams
I’m a Newcastle fan and I’m not confident against you we’re shit away from home
How do Sunderland fans know about this burnley side?
Forest fan here. Dumb, pointless and potentially harmful press releases aside, we have had big highs and big lows. Players drifting in and out of form, teams around us pulling up trees. Great support as always but not super convinced about half the first team. The best and worse of days.
Well,
Down:
Joining S.U
Luton
Burnley
Everton:
S.D is not a Premier League manager
Points Deduction: what you on about? For starters it was a two stage deduction to get to 8 and they still have some to come next season! No comparison can be made as who knows the mind set at 16 points or at 0 deduction??
Forest:
The player purchases gamble seems it may well be a wise move??
Luton:
Injuries……. every team has them! Look at the players, physios and doctor. Then everyone can and should buy players ( see Notts Forest) and if a team doesn’t then there will be a price to pay!!
Mismanagement in so many places?? And a manager who seems to see a very different match to all naturally thinking people!
Bob
England
Gooner of life long standing and believe me it’s very hard supporting a team who are expected to do well is very hard both watching, listening to ‘pundits’???? And folk who know you!
As a West Brom Fan I'm looking to who is going down and thinking our crap our chances of going up are getting harder as one of Leeds, Ipswich or Southampton can't go up, Hull, Norwich, Us, Coventry maybe, Plus Maybe Luton, Forest or Burnley will be up there I don't factor in Sheffield United as who knows what will happen there. Yeah we might have investment but we still have issues from the old owners.
I'd almost be tempted to get relegated just to avoid VAR
Anyone else get a donkey sanctuary advert after he said donkey when talking about Sheffield United talk about timing
We need to keep Dyche, he’s changed Everton for the better and should be given a chance to push us up the table
At least for Sheffield area fans, we should be getting 2 sheffield derbies next season
We (Forest) find out this week if we get any points back.
How about getting Leicester city to loan you some points?
I’m a claret through and through but I don’t know if I want us to stay up, it’s been such a hard season to watch and seeing VAR mess up everyone’s games kinda makes me wanna see us get relegated. I guess I’m indifferent, cool if we stay up, cool if we go down
I really want Luton to stay up just because of the memes