Elizabeth.G I think they ment like they believed her but they probably thought she was leaving something out like who she knew who her stalker was. I don’t think they ment that they didn’t believe her.
Exactly! Just like the movie Gaslight & the Invisible Man it is textbook gaslighting by a narcissist who wants to completely control and/or destroy someone’s life. And in this case Dr Makepeace succeeded, poor Cindy.
@@madelineharrop One of the most upsetting thing a woman can experience is to be a victim of a crime and for law enforcement to decide she is "hysterical, unstable or unbalanced". In too many jurisdictions detectives given the responsibility of investigating crimes against women include an "old boys network" type of mentality. As long as a man - any man - offers up a suggestion that the complaining witness is unstable or should not be believed, that is just enough "evidence" for her to be totally disregarded. I am sorry that you feel unheard, Madeline, and that you are continuing to suffer the torment. As you can attest, and as Cindy James experienced, women are still too often dismissed as victims of crime. Maybe once we start to get more female detectives in a position of investigative power, then things can improve. Stay safe, Madeline!
Yes! And this is how so many of us end up missing or trapped in abusive dangerous horrifying situations & relationships. Woman claiming abuse are ignored or taking lightly.
If a person is restrained, drugged, and strangled to death, there is no way foul play is not involved. No matter what this is a case of negligence on the part of the police and if this happened today this would have resulted in a riot.
She accidentally killed herself though. 🤷♀️ If you research this story more, you will find out more context. I love Bailey, but she's only telling a fraction of the story. 🤷♀️
*Trigger warning* ive been talking to police for a r*pe incident when i was young that i recently came out about to my family and theyre acting like 13 year old me was seducing a grown man 🤦🏼♀️ Like.. it’s extremely frustrating.
They take women seriously in the "Law & Order" shows... :-( We can be like the "Law & Order" shows!!! WHY ARE WE NOT LIKE THE "LAW & ORDER" SHOWS???!!! T_T
The police failed her and she wouldn't have been killed if the police just listened to her but nope, it's not a shocker that the police didn't believe her. It's truly sad.
Cyndi was killed twice, in my eyes. Once by the perpetrator, and once by the police. They failed her time and time again- a woman who’s already struggling with the truth because of a psychological expert at the other end of her suffering. Poor girl.
Police: "you're faking the harrassment, we don't believe you" Police after lie detector test: "you're too affected by the harrassment, we don't believe you"
Lol, same here. To her comment where she said now what do I do? How do I act? @BaileySarian just keep being your silly awesome self. Congrats to many million more girlfriend!! Love you tons!
Maybe there was a rope between the tie in her hands and the tie around her neck. Or she usee the same things she tied over her neck and hands. I can't explain that in English.
Whoever was doing this wasn’t smart. The police just weren’t taking a woman dealing with harassment seriously. This story made me so angry and sad for Cindy.
I think Her ex husband for sure was slowly mentally breaking her, to make her look like she was crazy and not credible. Then once everyone thought she was crazy and brushed her, off he went in to finish her.. such a sick person. You can’t convince me otherwise!
Definitely was the husband. She was gaslite to make her look crazy. A psychiatrist would know this, it's part of narcissistic abuse. Also split personality is very very rare usually from trauma at an early age.
I read your name as Marsupials for some reason lol. I was going to say the police were dumber then marsupials, but thats sounds like more of an insult to the kangaroos.
I mean, she had been attacked multiple times, her dog had been attacked, she stayed with her friends and her attacker started a fire in her home, and the police refused to believe it was actually happening TO her. She knows her husband is extremely intelligent and manipulative. I would be terrified to tell anyone too.
I wouldn't doubt that he "set the stage" with the police to begin with, by telling his buddies on the police force about his so-called "crazy ex-wife'.... he would know how to make it sound convincing for sure, but he won't get caught until the next woman gets involved and she leaves him too.
Ikr? It’s like They don’t even think! I mean why would someone fake all this? What would they lose if they actually investigated what was going on, you know DOING THEIR JOB! but noooo she had to die, and they still tried to blame her to hide their incompetence... protect and serve right😒
If she was lying, why did her friends husband see a man standing outside staring at the house after the fire was set? I really doubt he just happened to be standing out there to conveniently run away when asked to call the police.
@@majmuneeeeee Yeah because you wouldn't have a house because you were too worried about catching an unknown person rather than calling the fire brigade.
Most people who set fires sit and watch the fire if you've watched any type of forensic files People that's a fire always like sit in And watch that's why when they find a building attention he said They have somebody flying above with one of those warm cameras to see if there's anybody standing watching the fire
Sadly they can’t because the law didn’t count stalking as a crime until very recently. Unless the man was showing up directly and she knew who it was, they couldn’t do anything about it. I was stalked from 16-19 and didn’t know who it was, luckily an officer went behind his job and got a private detective to find who my stalker was. Stalking laws are still not taken seriously, not because of police but because of the courts
Robin Preston i’m sorry, i didn’t know that! thank you for sharing this information. it’s great that you found out who your stalker was and i hope you’re doing better now!
saekemi you are more than fine! 👏🏾 There are definitely some cops who don’t take it seriously, but there are also many who do. Sadly our politicians and law makers treat it like a joke though.
My mother was a victim of stalking. She was not believed. It wasn’t until she ran into a childhood friend who was a cop and told him what was happening that she was finally believed and they arrested the man. My grandmother told her to “stop causing problems”. It’s horrible.
If she had multiple personalities, other people would notice, especially since she was hospitalized multiple times. Also, people with DID, presuming that was what was intended, do so to protect themselves. It's a self-preservation thing, so she wouldn't be tormenting herself. That makes no sense. And yes, it is absolutely maddening to not be believed when you are being abused. That kind of psychological torture needs to be made illegal if it can be proven. Many can prove it, and the victim is told to make changes even when it's not possible.
At this point, the ex husband could have fully confessed to stalking her and the police would still be like “nahh it’s definitely not you” -__- Another man got away with abusing and tormenting a woman.. sick and disturbing. I pray he gets his karma.
It was a woman's voice in the telephone calls. She was stalked by a woman (maybe by a group of people but if so, at least 1 woman is in that group of people because a female voice can be heard in the voice mail and telephone).
This is why women don't come forward about their abusers/stalkers. This story infuriates me, and my heart breaks for Cindy. May she finally be at peace.
They had no concrete evidence to turn her away either. They just said “we don’t believe you.” like a bunch of useless five year olds. They didn’t even bother to investigate to see if her claims are true, useless sacks of... manure
I can't believe they didn't even believe her when she was found with a knife in her hand!!! They even up and told her to stop faking as she was recovering. How is this even possible???
When you hear people use the term "gaslighting," THIS is exactly the kind of thing they're referring to, making someone feel their experiences and gut feelings are not true, that they are crazy. And a psychiatrist would know exactly what it is and how to do it.
Colleen Mahony This story literally made me think of the Ingrid Bergman movie ‘Gaslight’. The husband tries to convince the wife she is losing it even though she isn’t, and eventually, she can’t take it anymore.
Nope. Humans are supposed to act a certain way. The quickest way to get a man (or cop) to stop listening is to be hysterical. The more panic you're in when you call 911: the slower they are because they don't like being yelled at. -- they are the AUTHORITY. Ever pretending anything different will automatically put you in their suspect/non-help category. -- coming from a cops kid.
@@Loralanthalasbut then if you’re too calm then they think you are making it up too, coz surely if you’re that distressed then you would be more upset? Seriously, we women can’t win in this. We don’t get taken seriously no matter what we do. The best way to get taken seriously is to get reincarnated as a white upper class man.
@@Loralanthalas so... Reacting to a distressing situation when asking for help means you shouldn't get help... Please do not follow in your parents footsteps
The way the police handled it almost makes me think it could have been someone within the department, or maybe her ex husband was very close with someone in the police. We all know the lengths they go through to "protect" their own...
I’ve been in law enforcement for over 10 years and half way through the video I had the same thought. I haven’t done any research on this but going just off of her story, this doesn’t sound like basic police incompetence but more like purposeful negligence.
Cindy actually had a lover, Pat McBride who was part of the police department. My money is on him as well! He wouold've easily been able to avoid police detection since he would've been watching her the same time as the police, knew when the police were monitoring her phone, etc. and made sure some "evidence" was never followed up on!
He must be someone in the higher ups, been hearing stories of priest pedophiles who were in cults with people who are police officers, government workers and so forth. Why would she be scared to tell her family, she must’ve know how much power this guy had. Could be why the police claimed her as lier.
The police claimed she staged all of the attacks for attention. To prove their claims, the police had someone at the coronal inquest placing a nylon around his neck and hog tying himself to demonstrate how Cindy may have done it in three minutes. They claimed she took oral narcotics (pills), which would have had a delayed effect and she would have had time to tie herself up before passing out. That doesn't explain the injection mark on her arm (although she could have injected herself with saline to fake it). The police account sounds very far fetched to me, which is probably why the result of the coronal inquest was that the manner of death was still unknown.
i feel so bad for cindy she died and they still don’t believe her. may she rest in peace and those who didn’t believe her feel horrible grief and regret and shame until they die
How could the police think she passed the lie detector test because she was so traumatized?? If they think she was faking it all, what traumatized her???? Hmmmmm
Wouldn't that have caused her to fail the polygraph? Polygraph machines work by monitoring your pulse. Reliving trauma would send your heart rate upward significantly.
@@malloryg4251 this seems like a problem. These officers have the resources but choose not to utilize them and take the easy way out rather than actually solving cases. I feel bad for a lot of these victim's families who have no closure because the police won't do their job. I mean, why take the easy way out? Is it because they're not properly trained to do so, or because they don't want to? It's sad when police resort to using the public to help solve cases because they can't. What does that say about their credibility and knowledge?
Watching this 2 years later and seeing that there is now SIX million subscribers!! So happy for you Bailey, you deserve all the recognition. Your videos get me through my work day 💕
In my opinion, it makes a lot of sense that her psychiatrist ex-husband would know all of the perfect ways to drive somebody insane based on his field of study. Then he turned everyone against her, making it seem like she had problems which he fabricated and people believed, to explain away all the weirdness that was happening to this poor woman.
Also do we know if they knew each other before she was 18? He could’ve easily groomed her and got into her head before and during their marriage. If she was groomed he would’ve definitely hated the idea of her not being under his control.
I was thinking the same thing about Baileys makeup, it’s a very very pretty look on her. I can’t stop looking at her eyes and her eyelashes on this look. Very pretty look Bailey
Yeah but why would a psychiatrist need access to morphine? I mean, he probably had some doctor associates or had privileges at some hospital(s) where he could have potentially snaked some, but he really shouldn't have had any direct, super easy access to it. But people are easily manipulated and greed and money are both things that exist so it probably wouldn't have been hard to pay someone off to get it for him. 🤔🤔 idk, I'm back and forth on this one. But if the victim herself suspected the ex-husband, then I think he's definitely the most viable suspect.
Psychiatrist, however, should not have access to Morphine within their practice. I said practice. As in, it isn’t a medication they use within their business. Now we all know anyone can get anything anytime though.
Knowing that she was repeatedly injected with morphine each time she was assaulted tells me it was probably her ex husband. He was angry she divorced him but he probably still had a soft spot for her and couldn't bring himself to watch her suffer or would feel ashamed if she was awake enough to recognize his face. Plus the fact he was a Dr. and probably had access to morphine. 🤷🏻♀️
I don’t think he injected her with morphine out of compassion. I think he did it so he can gain compliance and she isn’t able to fight back while he strangled her. He’s a coward who wouldn’t have the courage to try and fight her in the daylight.
What makes me so mad is that why would she do all that she did such as moving, polygraphs, changing her last name, all of that just for it to be herself doing it. Ugh.
Stringing up dead cats on her own porch? Making threatening letters to herself? Putting herself in a ditch? No way. My only thing is like...if this was happening daily, how did a neighbor never see who was doing it
@@brijefferson1498 this actually was a reddit post and he didn't have multiple personality disorder. The guy was suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning. Someone on the reddit thread suggested that the guy tested his house and sure enough that was the reason. You can find this easily.
Also the correct term for "multiple personality disorder" is DID (dissociative identity disorder) and is most often formed through childhood trauma that manifests as seperate "identities" that basically work to protect the individual, so it's highly unlikely that someone with DID would be secretly tormenting themselves... it really just sounds like ableism + victim blaming
@@maureentrentadue288 right! I think so too. That or someone else close to the police force. Since they stopped stalking her when the police were around and then started again when they left.
I only recently discovered your videos (and have been just devouring them going back), but THIS ONE was like hearing a puzzle from someone giving an art lesson while performing a magic illusion at the same time. The way you made shapes change on your face while relating something RIVETING? You are seriously, truly amazing.
They probably didn’t believe her because a man said “nO I didNt Do ThaT” and she’s just a puny little woman with no rights. (The puny woman with no rights part is what misogynistic people say not me)
I think for hem it was an experiment , he tested his power and psychological knowledge on her .... At one point I think he loooved to cotrol and manipulat everybody . If they looked more Im sure she wasnt the only one ...someone shouldve done a research of his patients.
It had to be him, she didnt die until after accusing him and sending the police over, when she was threatened if she ever told that she would be killed. It just makes sense ykno
I can't believe anyone could think she was lying after she was found drugged, strangled and bound. I think the police just wanted to protect themselves as they new they had not done their jobs, seems like the husband would be the perfect fit, slowly mentally torturing her, making her and everyone doubt her sanity.
@@obiwancanblowme271 people ignoring your concerns because they think you're paranoid or hysterical does happen to women more often than to men, statistically. but of course it's frustrating when the police ignore valid concerns whether they come from men or women. bro.
I think it’s also a huge thing to note that she had gotten in a relationship with Officer Pat McBride. He moved in with her temporarily in November 1982 after more and more threatening notes and images appeared outside her home and officer mcbride did state he saw her ex husband in an alley way behind her house with two guns Her ex tried to play it off that he was patrolling to protect her
The dog thing. If one of her personalities were doing these things then surely her dog would be terrified of her after the dog was attacked? The dog wouldn’t understand and would just know that their owner was attacking them. . . Cases like these were police are so negligent should be reopened and looked at by new officers
He never remarried and when she divorced him he told her, "the world is a scary place when you live alone." Um, I think he did it. Because why would she wait 4 months after her divorce to start pretending to get death threats?
It was the ex-husband. She said she received a note saying that if she said who it was she would die. Lo and behold she said it was the husband and she was killed.
Careful guys! I just discovered her channel last month and am already out of videos and feel like I'm withdrawing for another one even after watching new ones lol
Welcome!! I’ve been here over a year and still am such a dedicated fan! I swear you’ll always watch her now. If you have Instagram, you should find her there too!! 🖤🖤🖤
I was looking for someone to mention this. It would have been very evident in a journal since technically multiple personalities are actually different people in one person. There would be different handwritings at times, & different vernacular. It was definitely the ex...all he was doing was setting up his alibi becuz he obviously knew the cops wasn’t believing her.
Not always the case... DID systems won’t allow the host/others to know they have DID until they’re supposed to know Many people won’t even realise and the host doesn’t fully realise either... This is why A LOT of DID cases aren’t diagnosed until much later in life (when the body is 20 years or older)
@@crystalxoxox7691 but isn't DID caused by serious childhood trauma? Also I thought the whole purpose of the DID system was to protect the host not to put them in harm?
Jimmy Crackcorn A lot of killers will (obviously) avoid contact with their victims while police are around. They’re likely constantly watching their victim/ making sure they’re alone when they strike. It’s basically common sense.
@lilybellamartin the ex husband never directly threatened her, so it’s really not a “spoiler”, the OG comment was slightly inaccurate. I know part of what Bailey does is entertainment but she’s talking about real people and terrible things that happened to them, commenters are allowed to discuss their feelings about these real events in the comments... they’re not “spoilers”.
Lily Bella Martin 1.) comments are literally for talking about the video. don’t read the comments if you don’t want to know what happens. 2.) someone literally died and you’re complaining about “spoilers”???! little weird that you’re that desensitized to someone actually losing their life after being horribly stalked and threatened
Not really. I watched multiple true crime stories covering Cindy's suspicious death and listened to various podcasts. I also listened to one of the recorded messages and it's quite clear that whoever rang Cindy was a female trying to disguise her voice. It's very convenient that she never remembered anything, so she couldn't be caught in a lie while answering the questions. Also, whoever was allegedly stalking her was smart enough to avoid police surveillance, but tried to attack when she was staying with her friends?? And was conveniently waiting on the side walk to be seen? On that note - the police concluded that the fire started from inside of the house because everything was locked and there was no sign of a force entry. Plus, it had been reported that Cindy's stalker story didn't start when she divorced her husband, she was paranoid for years prior, talking about incidents that never took place.
she happened to be dating a cop on and off during this time but there’s not a lot of info about him. i would not be surprised if he had done it and the police department tried to cover it up to protect their own. it wouldn’t be the first time that has happened.
I was thinking that maybe a cop was involved with the amount of bs they were pulling. Her having a relationship with a cop would make sooo much sense. Thanks for putting this out there.
@Pops I’ve worked as a nurse for 8 years and those medications and heavily guarded and checking in and out (most places under video surveillance since the opioid epidemic) I agree I think it’s the ex husband and not a random cop but it’s just as easy for a cop to get it as a psychiatrist (which they don’t prescribe opioids as far as I’m aware) But I was just answering your questions of how a cop COULD get morphine.
@@ASMRKay_ This case occurred in Canada in the 1980s before the opioid crisis. The fact that her ex-husband was found lurking in her back yard does seemingly make him appear guilty.
The cop's name was Pat McBride. He was the first officer called out to Cindy's house when the incidents first started. They developed a romantic relationship (inappropriate) and he even moved in with her! Even worse, Pat McBride has been convicted of sexually assaulting two women, but the police cleared him of involvement in Cindy's case. Very suspish.
He’s a psychiatrist. The needle part makes A LOT of sense. He knew where to go with it. It was the ex husband or someone trying to frame him, which seems super unlikely.
Also since he’s a psychiatrist he would know how to drive her to insanity or at least make it seem like she was because he deals with people that are ill
It was a woman's voice in the telephone calls. She was stalked by a woman (maybe by a group of people but if so, at least 1 woman is in that group of people because a female voice can be heard in the voice mail and telephone).
@@imagine1145 this is completely false. Therapist are not licensed to even prescribe medication let alone trained how to administer an injectable. That being said I’m also not familiar with any psychiatrist just injecting their patients, especially not with morphine. But unlike therapist, psychiatrist are licensed to write prescriptions which is typically why a person would choose and psychiatrist over a psychologist.
Watching this a year later and seeing her now at 6 million something just makes me so happy that soo many others are enjoying her as much as I have since Pretty much day one!! She’s just soo amazing! Congrats girl!!!! Soo happy for you!!!
Why is no one talking about how Agnes’ husband ran outside when the house was on fire and said he saw a man STANDING OUTSIDE STARING AT THE HOUSE AND TOOK OFF RUNNING!! That doesn’t seem like coincidence... and If Cindy was doing it to herself, the friend wouldn’t have decided to make up a story about a man out front...right? That seems like it backs up Cindy at least a little bit!
I was thinking if it weren't the ex-husband could it still have been someone close to her? Like Agnes, another friend? Stalkers aren't always strangers as was once thought 🤔
that’s what i was thinking!!!! did that man not tell anyone about the guy staring at the house and then running away?!?!? that just speaks that someone was up to something. also the fact that her hands were tied behind her back and then strangled? how can someone physically do that?
and he had his excuse ready, he knew the police would believe him, a dOcTor over her. He made her crazy so he could have an easy escape during the questions they asked him
i have just listened to the rather lengthy audiobook on this case called "Death by unknown event" i was so gripped by the tale that i came looking for more ty Bailey for including this in your portfolio. i do understand that you have limited time to cover it but the book gives so many more details such as the fact that one of the cops actually became besotted with her too and moved in for a month
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This is so confusing. How is this woman beating tf out her self, strangling herself, injecting herself w morphine and tying her hands behind her back? She could’ve survived if the officers ego would allow them to accept being wrong
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This poor woman was gaslighted by almost everyone.
Just by the police, everyone else believed her
morior no be shae the private investigator and her parents accused her of not telling the entire truth.....
*because
Elizabeth.G I think they ment like they believed her but they probably thought she was leaving something out like who she knew who her stalker was. I don’t think they ment that they didn’t believe her.
Exactly! Just like the movie Gaslight & the Invisible Man it is textbook gaslighting by a narcissist who wants to completely control and/or destroy someone’s life. And in this case Dr Makepeace succeeded, poor Cindy.
The fact that the police didn’t take this case more seriously makes me sick
They don’t care with my case. Still ongoing disturbing calls for, me but the police closed the case file for no reason.
@@madelineharrop I'm so sorry. That is horrible
@@madelineharrop One of the most upsetting thing a woman can experience is to be a victim of a crime and for law enforcement to decide she is "hysterical, unstable or unbalanced". In too many jurisdictions detectives given the responsibility of investigating crimes against women include an "old boys network" type of mentality. As long as a man - any man - offers up a suggestion that the complaining witness is unstable or should not be believed, that is just enough "evidence" for her to be totally disregarded. I am sorry that you feel unheard, Madeline, and that you are continuing to suffer the torment. As you can attest, and as Cindy James experienced, women are still too often dismissed as victims of crime. Maybe once we start to get more female detectives in a position of investigative power, then things can improve. Stay safe, Madeline!
Yes! And this is how so many of us end up missing or trapped in abusive dangerous horrifying situations & relationships. Woman claiming abuse are ignored or taking lightly.
It really goes to show that you have to take care of yourself because help will never happen
The police should be ashamed of themselves for the way they handled this case. Disgusting.
If a person is restrained, drugged, and strangled to death, there is no way foul play is not involved. No matter what this is a case of negligence on the part of the police and if this happened today this would have resulted in a riot.
Things haven't improved much tbh, especially when the victim is a woman.
Truly
I agree. The police killed her indirectly. They have blood on their hands
Classic rcmp. Useless as always
Imagine dying and still having EVERYONE call you a liar
Not everyone. We know now 🥺
liteally in her cofin and they still where tryna say she was lying...
She accidentally killed herself though. 🤷♀️ If you research this story more, you will find out more context. I love Bailey, but she's only telling a fraction of the story. 🤷♀️
@@heathers7265 How do you bind your hands and feet behind your back by yourself ??lol seems difficult
@@heathers7265caca head
This is why women are too afraid to go to the police about their abusers, stalkers, etc. So so sad!
Yes!! Louder for the people in the back!!
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our stalker was the police at some point!!
Exactly! Nothing has changed. So gross.
*Trigger warning* ive been talking to police for a r*pe incident when i was young that i recently came out about to my family and theyre acting like 13 year old me was seducing a grown man 🤦🏼♀️ Like.. it’s extremely frustrating.
the police? not taking a woman serious? what a shocker... poor Cindy!
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They take women seriously in the "Law & Order" shows... :-( We can be like the "Law & Order" shows!!! WHY ARE WE NOT LIKE THE "LAW & ORDER" SHOWS???!!! T_T
Victoria xo again - she was an adult woman?
@@vic_cresss why do you keep saying she was a minor? She was a nurse and had been married
The police failed her and she wouldn't have been killed if the police just listened to her but nope, it's not a shocker that the police didn't believe her. It's truly sad.
How the police treated her... just sickening. And even after her death they just spit on her. Horrible.
Truly horrible
Horrific way to be treated by those supposed to help and protect you.
and that is one of the reasons why ACAB is the thing✨
Smh..this upsets me...
Cyndi was killed twice, in my eyes. Once by the perpetrator, and once by the police. They failed her time and time again- a woman who’s already struggling with the truth because of a psychological expert at the other end of her suffering. Poor girl.
Police: "you're faking the harrassment, we don't believe you"
Police after lie detector test: "you're too affected by the harrassment, we don't believe you"
But they would have had no problem believing it if it showed she was lying 😆
A-holes. They are to blame for her death
ACAB
It was sad time for us women in that time
It was easier to believe she strangled herself while her handa and feet were tied.😂
She said "it's like I'm a cult leader" and I'm like "where do I sign?"
Ill sign up too :) just give me the sign up sheet lol
Im willing to sign a billion year contract
Lol, same here. To her comment where she said now what do I do? How do I act? @BaileySarian just keep being your silly awesome self. Congrats to many million more girlfriend!! Love you tons!
When you find out let me know💯😖😭
When I saw this comment it had 666 likes... Uhm creepy. Maybe it is a cult 😂😂😂
how would she strangle herself if she tied her hands behind her back...doesn’t make sense.
i thought the same
How do you even tie your hands behind your back? Like, and get it realistically tight? And then strangle yourself?
I can’t even clip a bracelet on my own wrist in the FRONT let alone that.... SUSPISH
ANDDDD on top of that having a morphine overdose
Maybe there was a rope between the tie in her hands and the tie around her neck. Or she usee the same things she tied over her neck and hands. I can't explain that in English.
I love when I revisit older Bailey videos and she hit a milestone like 2mil subs in this one, and now she's at 7mil.... GO QUEEN!!
IKR! So happy for her!!🎉
Whoever was doing this wasn’t smart. The police just weren’t taking a woman dealing with harassment seriously. This story made me so angry and sad for Cindy.
What if her ex husband was paying off the police. He was a doctor he had money to do so 🤔
Awav Phjj I kept thinking her husband too
Awav Phjj I wouldn’t be surprised either. I don’t put anything past anyone ugh!😭
Yeah rip Cindy
Me too! I'm so mad for her
When she says “you can leave at anytime”, like no girl, we’re fully invested now babe! We love you!!
Right!! 🤔 Is that your passive aggressive way of telling me you don't want me here or that I over stayed my welcome?? 🤣🤣😯. J/I. I too love her!! 😘😘💜💜
Haha I know right. 😂
True that ❤️💯
She's like so just.. not stressed.. like rested idk😂
But naturally beautiful ❤️
I know right like LeEaAaVEe wym leave?
Bailey: "Its like Im a cult leader." Puts on Jim Jones glasses " Do I get tax exemptions?"
😂😂😂😂😂 and THAT humor is why we love you Bailey!!!!
I just had the exact same thought!
(... maybe we are a cult???)
😂😂😂
I about spit my drink!!! Lol
@@beccadee1433 I did 🤣🤣
honestly 😂😂😂
Cracks me up!
I think Her ex husband for sure was slowly mentally breaking her, to make her look like she was crazy and not credible. Then once everyone thought she was crazy and brushed her, off he went in to finish her.. such a sick person. You can’t convince me otherwise!
Totally agree!
This case infuriates me because she would 100000% have lived had the police actually done their job
And the police say they deserve to be taken more seriously 🙄
That's Canadian police for you.
Definitely was the husband. She was gaslite to make her look crazy. A psychiatrist would know this, it's part of narcissistic abuse. Also split personality is very very rare usually from trauma at an early age.
They did, they staked out her house and cameras never picked up this made up person.
Seriously, the police really need better training especially when it comes to cases like this. Absolutely horrendous.
Police-" no fingerprints, she done it herself", the rest of us with a brain say" they wore gloves", Police say" what are those"
I read your name as Marsupials for some reason lol. I was going to say the police were dumber then marsupials, but thats sounds like more of an insult to the kangaroos.
@@jessymoore8868 The only marsupial we have here is the possum from Australia, no kangaroos just kiwis
Sounds about right for the RCMP.
Yes!!!!
Typical dumb cop !
how the heck would someone be able to STRANGLE themselves while their hands are tied behind their back?????? how is that even considered a theory
Yeah, while shooting a deadly dose of morphine that would have you immobilized in minutes...
Logic out of the window
AlmaDeLuz Morphine inserted Intravenously? It would have taken SECONDS to have her immobilized
Exactly? Also while overdosed on morphine?? Gah! Drives me crazy!!
Right absolutely insane
I mean, she had been attacked multiple times, her dog had been attacked, she stayed with her friends and her attacker started a fire in her home, and the police refused to believe it was actually happening TO her.
She knows her husband is extremely intelligent and manipulative.
I would be terrified to tell anyone too.
Can we just thank Ozzie for automatically believing her and trying to help her when no one else was
Well i mean... he was being paid. It's the least he could do
@@nathfairy he doesn’t care if it’s true, he’s not a judge. He cares only if she continues to pay or nah
nathfairy it wasn’t even just about being paid though, he begged the cops to help and believe her too. He really did care.
@@carterpitbull7366 You're right. The cops are paid to help her, too.
righttt
Bailey is like a glamorous version of a gossip lady that makes you feel special when included in her scandalous speculations.
EXACTLY AND THATS ON PERIODT
YESSSS
Tru
Right u can't help but get all into it
Lol yes
The LENGTHS these people went to to convince themselves that Cindy was lying.
Exactly!! The ex had connections in the police department. I’d bet on it!
I wouldn't doubt that he "set the stage" with the police to begin with, by telling his buddies on the police force about his so-called "crazy ex-wife'.... he would know how to make it sound convincing for sure, but he won't get caught until the next woman gets involved and she leaves him too.
FR I WAS IN DISBELIEF
Ikr? It’s like They don’t even think! I mean why would someone fake all this? What would they lose if they actually investigated what was going on, you know DOING THEIR JOB! but noooo she had to die, and they still tried to blame her to hide their incompetence... protect and serve right😒
Every single youtuber: "HIT THAT SUBSCRIBE BUTTEN!"
Bailey: "You can leave anytime. You can leave."
Why you haven't reached out to
And then we stay 😂
Reverse psychology.... It works.
Uno reverse 😂
If she was lying, why did her friends husband see a man standing outside staring at the house after the fire was set? I really doubt he just happened to be standing out there to conveniently run away when asked to call the police.
Correction sorry* it was Agnes husband who saw the mystery man, Cindy had not remarried
@@pineapule that's what Hannah said, "her friends husband". Not Cindy's husband. So she didn't use Agnes' name. So no need to correct.
Diosa maybe that wasn’t his reaction because a house was on fire and that felt like a more dire issue at the moment
@@majmuneeeeee Yeah because you wouldn't have a house because you were too worried about catching an unknown person rather than calling the fire brigade.
Most people who set fires sit and watch the fire if you've watched any type of forensic files People that's a fire always like sit in And watch that's why when they find a building attention he said They have somebody flying above with one of those warm cameras to see if there's anybody standing watching the fire
she wouldn’t’ve died if the police did their jobs. it’s absolutely outrageous! may cindy rest in peace.
Sadly they can’t because the law didn’t count stalking as a crime until very recently. Unless the man was showing up directly and she knew who it was, they couldn’t do anything about it. I was stalked from 16-19 and didn’t know who it was, luckily an officer went behind his job and got a private detective to find who my stalker was. Stalking laws are still not taken seriously, not because of police but because of the courts
Robin Preston i’m sorry, i didn’t know that! thank you for sharing this information. it’s great that you found out who your stalker was and i hope you’re doing better now!
saekemi you are more than fine! 👏🏾 There are definitely some cops who don’t take it seriously, but there are also many who do. Sadly our politicians and law makers treat it like a joke though.
The RCMP is NOTORIOUS for this!
Robin Preston That is horrible! I am glad that officer helped you. 💕
My mother was a victim of stalking. She was not believed. It wasn’t until she ran into a childhood friend who was a cop and told him what was happening that she was finally believed and they arrested the man.
My grandmother told her to “stop causing problems”. It’s horrible.
i'm so sorry
@@katkaos7896 vn no v. M
@@K9Charlie what?
@@katkaos7896 I know. That's BS!
My own mother has told me to stop causing problems when I wanted to confront family for being sexually abused.🙄🙄🤬
If she had multiple personalities, other people would notice, especially since she was hospitalized multiple times. Also, people with DID, presuming that was what was intended, do so to protect themselves. It's a self-preservation thing, so she wouldn't be tormenting herself. That makes no sense.
And yes, it is absolutely maddening to not be believed when you are being abused. That kind of psychological torture needs to be made illegal if it can be proven. Many can prove it, and the victim is told to make changes even when it's not possible.
At this point, the ex husband could have fully confessed to stalking her and the police would still be like “nahh it’s definitely not you” -__-
Another man got away with abusing and tormenting a woman.. sick and disturbing. I pray he gets his karma.
he will there must always be balance in the universe..
Her ex husband is now dead
It was a woman's voice in the telephone calls. She was stalked by a woman (maybe by a group of people but if so, at least 1 woman is in that group of people because a female voice can be heard in the voice mail and telephone).
@@smrtfasizmu6161 weird
"He was just having a bad day"
can we just talk about how sad this is... she tried to get help, but almost nobody listend to her...
It's sad, but not surprising to me at all.
Of course another woman dies because the police write her off as "a hysterical woman" SMH
THIS! It's so sad
Right. They gave her no justice.
Back then, that was what happened most of the time. Women were considered "crazy".
@@melindaroop1346 It's still happening unfortunately.
@@melindaroop1346 that's how it is now too. Nothing's changed.
I think this is honestly the most frustrating case you've covered yet. The whole time my blood was boilling listening to her story.
Fr tho! It gave me goosebumps
The worst Monday’s are the ones where Bailey doesn’t post
Yes!!! And Saturday lol
For real 🤣
But it makes it even more special when she does post 🥰
Last Monday I was so lost 😫 this is by far the best series ever ❤
I was the 1,000 like on here and it was VERY satisfying watching it change to 1k 🙌🏻
This is some major BS. Poor woman was tortured and police wouldn’t believe her. Absolutely awful.
And people WONDER why others hate cops. She didn't get justice. She was disregarded and not taken seriously by police. Its ridiculous.
they not only didn't intervene, they gaslit her so much and made the situation even that much worse
v.anessa fr even when their theories of what happened were proved incorrect they still blamed Cindy🤦🏾♀️
exactly.!!! F these cops.! i swear. *smfh*
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This is why women don't come forward about their abusers/stalkers. This story infuriates me, and my heart breaks for Cindy. May she finally be at peace.
They had no concrete evidence because they didn't do their jobs.
UGH I was thinking this the entire time! What pigs
preach
They had no concrete evidence to turn her away either. They just said “we don’t believe you.” like a bunch of useless five year olds. They didn’t even bother to investigate to see if her claims are true, useless sacks of... manure
HOW DO YOU STRANGLE YOURSELF WHEN YOUR HANDS ARE TIED BEHIND YOUR BACK? How can they even BELIEVE that?? I’m angry.
Me too 😣
Right?! My exact thought. Like tf?!
That would be my question nm the morphine in her
I can't believe they didn't even believe her when she was found with a knife in her hand!!! They even up and told her to stop faking as she was recovering. How is this even possible???
When you hear people use the term "gaslighting," THIS is exactly the kind of thing they're referring to, making someone feel their experiences and gut feelings are not true, that they are crazy. And a psychiatrist would know exactly what it is and how to do it.
Colleen Mahony This story literally made me think of the Ingrid Bergman movie ‘Gaslight’. The husband tries to convince the wife she is losing it even though she isn’t, and eventually, she can’t take it anymore.
@@nzarzecki yes I remember that movie!
FYI I'm a teen that likes classic movies😁
NRZ Yesss! What a great film!!
Oh my gosh, yes, totally!
I believe that this video should be used for educational purposes in the police department in order for them to DO BETTER
Nope. Humans are supposed to act a certain way. The quickest way to get a man (or cop) to stop listening is to be hysterical. The more panic you're in when you call 911: the slower they are because they don't like being yelled at. -- they are the AUTHORITY. Ever pretending anything different will automatically put you in their suspect/non-help category. -- coming from a cops kid.
@@Loralanthalasbut then if you’re too calm then they think you are making it up too, coz surely if you’re that distressed then you would be more upset? Seriously, we women can’t win in this. We don’t get taken seriously no matter what we do.
The best way to get taken seriously is to get reincarnated as a white upper class man.
@@Loralanthalas so... Reacting to a distressing situation when asking for help means you shouldn't get help...
Please do not follow in your parents footsteps
The way the police handled it almost makes me think it could have been someone within the department, or maybe her ex husband was very close with someone in the police. We all know the lengths they go through to "protect" their own...
I had the same thought!!!
I’ve been in law enforcement for over 10 years and half way through the video I had the same thought. I haven’t done any research on this but going just off of her story, this doesn’t sound like basic police incompetence but more like purposeful negligence.
This is what I was thinking!
Cindy actually had a lover, Pat McBride who was part of the police department. My money is on him as well! He wouold've easily been able to avoid police detection since he would've been watching her the same time as the police, knew when the police were monitoring her phone, etc. and made sure some "evidence" was never followed up on!
reminds me of "unbelievable" on Netflix, SO frustrating
I cannot believe that the police were like “yeah she injected herself, tied herself up (hands and feet), and strangled herself!!! That’s impossible!!
Nina Laura Dionne while on a lethal amount of morphine. There’s absolutely no way!
Cops asked me if I'd taken my meds .
Before I called them
I'm not on any meds. Only Insulin.
It was the ex
He must be someone in the higher ups, been hearing stories of priest pedophiles who were in cults with people who are police officers, government workers and so forth. Why would she be scared to tell her family, she must’ve know how much power this guy had. Could be why the police claimed her as lier.
She didn't die of strangulation though. She died from a morphine overdose. So actually it's possible.
These cops should be held accountable for all the horrible things that happened to Cindy.
I agree. But of course they got away with such incompetence. It also wouldn't have surprised me if they were bought off by the ex.
This video came out exactly 1 year ago today and Bailey has now gone from 2 million subs to 5.3 million! Congrats Bailey
excuse me but the fact that the cops didn't belive her EVEN AFTER SHE DIED WITH HER HANDS TIED BEHIND HER STRANGLED-
I feel like they believed then but didn't want to admit they were wrong
Yeah that........ unbelievable...........,
@Avalon 2 as we should..... Who's watching the watchers?
Then they'd have to admit accountability tho. We know how often that happens.
The police claimed she staged all of the attacks for attention. To prove their claims, the police had someone at the coronal inquest placing a nylon around his neck and hog tying himself to demonstrate how Cindy may have done it in three minutes. They claimed she took oral narcotics (pills), which would have had a delayed effect and she would have had time to tie herself up before passing out. That doesn't explain the injection mark on her arm (although she could have injected herself with saline to fake it). The police account sounds very far fetched to me, which is probably why the result of the coronal inquest was that the manner of death was still unknown.
I would never mentally survive being attacked that many times. Poor Cindy.
Absolutely
Poor Cindy. There is no way she did this to herself. And to think her ex-husband got off scott-free. Shame on the police!
i feel so bad for cindy she died and they still don’t believe her. may she rest in peace and those who didn’t believe her feel horrible grief and regret and shame until they die
How could the police think she passed the lie detector test because she was so traumatized?? If they think she was faking it all, what traumatized her???? Hmmmmm
Absolutely correct!
Wouldn't that have caused her to fail the polygraph? Polygraph machines work by monitoring your pulse. Reliving trauma would send your heart rate upward significantly.
@@josephahner3031 EXACTLY. It's unfortunate when police officers are lazier and dumber than the general public.....
@@malloryg4251 this seems like a problem. These officers have the resources but choose not to utilize them and take the easy way out rather than actually solving cases. I feel bad for a lot of these victim's families who have no closure because the police won't do their job. I mean, why take the easy way out? Is it because they're not properly trained to do so, or because they don't want to? It's sad when police resort to using the public to help solve cases because they can't. What does that say about their credibility and knowledge?
@@malloryg4251 either the police are actually dumb asf or they were in on it
So let me get this... she tied her hands BEHIND her back, and THEN strangled herself? suuuuuuuure....
Or, she strangled herself, then tied her hanfs behind her back. Either way. Just no.
Maybe, she strangled herself, then tied her feet and hands, then injected morphine ????
@@OneEnigma if that happened then where’s the needle? It doesn’t add up
Clearly her other personality had its own arms also. But we would need to be smart like those police to figure that out 🙄
Right? Did they think this woman was a contortionist or something?
That poor woman, this story is one of terrible policework and misogyny
Watching this 2 years later and seeing that there is now SIX million subscribers!! So happy for you Bailey, you deserve all the recognition. Your videos get me through my work day 💕
the police absolutely failed this woman. disgusting.
In my opinion, it makes a lot of sense that her psychiatrist ex-husband would know all of the perfect ways to drive somebody insane based on his field of study. Then he turned everyone against her, making it seem like she had problems which he fabricated and people believed, to explain away all the weirdness that was happening to this poor woman.
That makes sense, especially since Cindy didn’t start getting the death threats until after the divorce and when she moved out of her husband’s house.
Sounds like gas-lighting.
Also do we know if they knew each other before she was 18? He could’ve easily groomed her and got into her head before and during their marriage. If she was groomed he would’ve definitely hated the idea of her not being under his control.
I couldn’t agree more
When you realize Bailey’s bad makeup day is better than anytime you’ve ever done your makeup. 😕
I was thinking the same thing about Baileys makeup, it’s a very very pretty look on her. I can’t stop looking at her eyes and her eyelashes on this look. Very pretty look Bailey
My exact thought 😂🤦🏼♀️
For real I was sitting here like uh what bad make up day.. I loved the look❤😍❤
I felt this 😂😭
Legit
The police literally could have gotten so many clues if only they tested for DNA on the knife and note. It's so obvious! I'm literally raging
DNA testing didn't exist at that time though
And they never thought “how is this girl getting INJECTABLE MORPHINE?” Like.... sir, a doctor can get those ? The same one who she’s accusing.
She was a nurse. Remember Grant and the Webcam Girl, he was a nurse and got caught stealing injectable narcotics.
Yeah but why would a psychiatrist need access to morphine? I mean, he probably had some doctor associates or had privileges at some hospital(s) where he could have potentially snaked some, but he really shouldn't have had any direct, super easy access to it. But people are easily manipulated and greed and money are both things that exist so it probably wouldn't have been hard to pay someone off to get it for him. 🤔🤔 idk, I'm back and forth on this one. But if the victim herself suspected the ex-husband, then I think he's definitely the most viable suspect.
Psychiatrist, however, should not have access to Morphine within their practice. I said practice. As in, it isn’t a medication they use within their business. Now we all know anyone can get anything anytime though.
I just looked it up and psychiatrists can prescribe opiates... I didn’t know that but apparently they can.
Staci North he’s the wrong kind of doctor to have access to that but he definitely did it
She did everything right and still ended up dead. The police in this case are atrocious
The ex-husband totally did it. Also, the cops should have been sued for their WILD incompetence throughout this entire case.
i’m honestly surprised no one sued them. i would’ve
It’s case after case like this. Old and new cases. Police most often than not don’t help until you’re dead
I would've sued them! Seriously! Policemen on this case were LAZY and IMCOMPENTANT!
Knowing that she was repeatedly injected with morphine each time she was assaulted tells me it was probably her ex husband. He was angry she divorced him but he probably still had a soft spot for her and couldn't bring himself to watch her suffer or would feel ashamed if she was awake enough to recognize his face. Plus the fact he was a Dr. and probably had access to morphine. 🤷🏻♀️
I don’t think he injected her with morphine out of compassion. I think he did it so he can gain compliance and she isn’t able to fight back while he strangled her. He’s a coward who wouldn’t have the courage to try and fight her in the daylight.
And so that she couldn't remember who it was injecting her. I think it was the cop she was dating.
What makes me so mad is that why would she do all that she did such as moving, polygraphs, changing her last name, all of that just for it to be herself doing it. Ugh.
Stringing up dead cats on her own porch? Making threatening letters to herself? Putting herself in a ditch? No way.
My only thing is like...if this was happening daily, how did a neighbor never see who was doing it
@@brijefferson1498 this actually was a reddit post and he didn't have multiple personality disorder.
The guy was suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning. Someone on the reddit thread suggested that the guy tested his house and sure enough that was the reason. You can find this easily.
Also the correct term for "multiple personality disorder" is DID (dissociative identity disorder) and is most often formed through childhood trauma that manifests as seperate "identities" that basically work to protect the individual, so it's highly unlikely that someone with DID would be secretly tormenting themselves... it really just sounds like ableism + victim blaming
IT’S THE SUNGLASSES IN THE INTRO AFTER SHE MENTIONED A CULT FOR ME-
Same 😂
"Do I get tax exemptions now? Ooooh.."
ITS THE PURPLE EYELINER FOR ME-
The JIM Jones specs!!!! Hahaha
Either the cops didnt want to admit they were wrong or they were covering for someone.
how bout both
I did think maybe a policeman was doing it if not hubby and they covering.
@@maureentrentadue288 right! I think so too. That or someone else close to the police force. Since they stopped stalking her when the police were around and then started again when they left.
@@YuuriDaFox Both. Maybe the ex had a cop friend OR he had therapy blackmail on one.
@@akwolfsong or if he was a psychiatrist, has a lot of money, maybe was bribing?
I only recently discovered your videos (and have been just devouring them going back), but THIS ONE was like hearing a puzzle from someone giving an art lesson while performing a magic illusion at the same time. The way you made shapes change on your face while relating something RIVETING? You are seriously, truly amazing.
The police were so adamant about not helping her it’s almost like they were involved 🙄 I mean just do your job...
Those doughnuts and caffeine really slow ya down
right??? maybe they were payed not to investigate it properly idk
@@notbelle.e psychiatrists earn a lot of money...and would now how to psychologically torment someone...just saying...
I’m reading this as the case of Sarah Everard just took place and honestly, I wouldn’t doubt it that they had something to do with it
Actually one of the suspects was an ex boyfriend of hers and guess what... he's a policeman!
He was 18 years older than her and couldn’t stand losing the power when she walked away it seems. I’m sure Dr. ex had a big ego. Poor Cindy.
They probably didn’t believe her because a man said “nO I didNt Do ThaT” and she’s just a puny little woman with no rights. (The puny woman with no rights part is what misogynistic people say not me)
I think for hem it was an experiment , he tested his power and psychological knowledge on her ....
At one point I think he loooved to cotrol and manipulat everybody .
If they looked more Im sure she wasnt the only one ...someone shouldve done a research of his patients.
It had to be him, she didnt die until after accusing him and sending the police over, when she was threatened if she ever told that she would be killed. It just makes sense ykno
Bailey: *talking about the story*
Me: *still vibing to the theme song*
I do that, I’m new from the last few weeks and already have the theme song stuck in my head.
@@LisasLifeThenandNow I recorded her doing the theme song and set it as my alarm
Same..lol
We gotta remix it for the weekly cul-I mean story gatherings with koolaid and brownies
How do you record it!! I neeeeed this for my alarm! My family thinks I’m crazy for singing it so much!!
I’m rewatching this, and you were so thankful for reaching 2 mill followers, and now you have almost 6 million!! So happy for you sis!
I can't believe anyone could think she was lying after she was found drugged, strangled and bound. I think the police just wanted to protect themselves as they new they had not done their jobs, seems like the husband would be the perfect fit, slowly mentally torturing her, making her and everyone doubt her sanity.
right?? its the ultimate insult, they disbelieved her even in death. :(
plus he was a doctor so he knew how to torcher someone through their mind.
What is truly awful is that women are still treated like this.
Yea bro because it has anything to do with being a woman
Scary but true.
@@obiwancanblowme271 people ignoring your concerns because they think you're paranoid or hysterical does happen to women more often than to men, statistically. but of course it's frustrating when the police ignore valid concerns whether they come from men or women. bro.
@@obiwancanblowme271 It has everything to do with being a woman.
"Still" I mean.. it's been like 31 years since this case
Bailey: "Am I a cult leader?"
The candles in the background: "...Maybe"
At least we are a FABULOUS looking cult! 😂😂😂
@@christytaylor5554 very true!!
Then the Jim Jones 🕶 and 🎤. I died laughing!
The Sarian Society. 4.5M 💪
I think it’s also a huge thing to note that she had gotten in a relationship with Officer Pat McBride. He moved in with her temporarily in November 1982 after more and more threatening notes and images appeared outside her home and officer mcbride did state he saw her ex husband in an alley way behind her house with two guns
Her ex tried to play it off that he was patrolling to protect her
The dog thing. If one of her personalities were doing these things then surely her dog would be terrified of her after the dog was attacked? The dog wouldn’t understand and would just know that their owner was attacking them. . . Cases like these were police are so negligent should be reopened and looked at by new officers
That is such a great point
the police/cops dont think of these things tho... :/
I thought the same thing
Dude....yes! That's a solid point
No one takes a woman serious, police, doctors, politicians.
So many of these cases could be avoided! 😡
🤦🏻♀️
Do you know why that is?
TRUE!!!
Tanner Adams misogyny
He never remarried and when she divorced him he told her, "the world is a scary place when you live alone." Um, I think he did it. Because why would she wait 4 months after her divorce to start pretending to get death threats?
He said that! Gosh that man was a freaky person.
Plus it was said that Cindy was happy to be divorced so maybe he was an abusive or bad man obviously
And she wanted to get out of the relationship bad.. you wonder why?! He was abusive so I bet it was him
It jus lets u know how much ppl LUV UR CONTENT. An u jus keep doin what u luv 2 do an do best.
It was the ex-husband. She said she received a note saying that if she said who it was she would die. Lo and behold she said it was the husband and she was killed.
Bailey is seriously the best story teller ever, just discovered her four days ago and have been binging her Monday posts since XD
Same!!! I found her last week and have been watching all of her old videos since then😂
Careful guys! I just discovered her channel last month and am already out of videos and feel like I'm withdrawing for another one even after watching new ones lol
Same!!! I’m actually worried there might be no videos left for me to watch cos I watch like 5-7 videos a day 😂 she’s addicting, and her stories!
Same
Welcome!! I’ve been here over a year and still am such a dedicated fan! I swear you’ll always watch her now. If you have Instagram, you should find her there too!! 🖤🖤🖤
The extent the cops will go to not believe a woman, even after she died in the exact way she had been attacked in the past is literally disgusting....
I literally clicked on this because I loved your make up. It's hard to believe that it was a bad make-up-day. Amazing!
If she truly had multiple personalities, it would most likely be evident in her journal entries....
Also she stayed for 10 consecutive weeks at a psychiatric ward so they would have noticed the changing behavior
Exactly! I didn't think od that but I 100% believe Cindy
I was looking for someone to mention this. It would have been very evident in a journal since technically multiple personalities are actually different people in one person. There would be different handwritings at times, & different vernacular. It was definitely the ex...all he was doing was setting up his alibi becuz he obviously knew the cops wasn’t believing her.
Not always the case...
DID systems won’t allow the host/others to know they have DID until they’re supposed to know
Many people won’t even realise and the host doesn’t fully realise either...
This is why A LOT of DID cases aren’t diagnosed until much later in life (when the body is 20 years or older)
@@crystalxoxox7691 but isn't DID caused by serious childhood trauma? Also I thought the whole purpose of the DID system was to protect the host not to put them in harm?
so tired of people not believing women. of covering up their deaths. so tired
ME 2 :,c
Yea well for every woman who wasn't believed I can name a famous case where the woman lied.
@@lindseymachonamaenzanise5051 sorry ur delusional. The man is always the first suspect and men get way more punishment for equal crimes.
Well we all know Agnes is the stalker. Lol
Noooo she didn't have to stay. She had a car. She could get in it and drive away.
She was afraid of him from the beginning. SO afraid that she didn't want to accuse him until she'd almost died. It's the ex.
@Jimmy Crackcorn seriously? Wow
@Jimmy Crackcorn overdosed and tied herself up... get a life.
How disgusting of a person can you be...there’s no way she was lying.
@Jimmy Crackcorn are you from the u.s? that would explain why you're so dumb
Jimmy Crackcorn A lot of killers will (obviously) avoid contact with their victims while police are around. They’re likely constantly watching their victim/ making sure they’re alone when they strike. It’s basically common sense.
Tbh I LOVE Bailey's look in this video, she looks incredible!
Absativey Beautiful!!
Sydney : I think its my ex husband but he said if I say anything I will die
Ex husband : interrogated by police
Sydney : dies
???? its obvi him
Cindy
Thanks for the spoilers
@lilybellamartin the ex husband never directly threatened her, so it’s really not a “spoiler”, the OG comment was slightly inaccurate. I know part of what Bailey does is entertainment but she’s talking about real people and terrible things that happened to them, commenters are allowed to discuss their feelings about these real events in the comments... they’re not “spoilers”.
Lily Bella Martin 1.) comments are literally for talking about the video. don’t read the comments if you don’t want to know what happens. 2.) someone literally died and you’re complaining about “spoilers”???! little weird that you’re that desensitized to someone actually losing their life after being horribly stalked and threatened
U forgot to mention her entire family was threatened. It wasn't just herself that was in danger.
The fact they could even entertain the idea she killed herself is ridiculous!
Not really. I watched multiple true crime stories covering Cindy's suspicious death and listened to various podcasts. I also listened to one of the recorded messages and it's quite clear that whoever rang Cindy was a female trying to disguise her voice. It's very convenient that she never remembered anything, so she couldn't be caught in a lie while answering the questions. Also, whoever was allegedly stalking her was smart enough to avoid police surveillance, but tried to attack when she was staying with her friends?? And was conveniently waiting on the side walk to be seen? On that note - the police concluded that the fire started from inside of the house because everything was locked and there was no sign of a force entry. Plus, it had been reported that Cindy's stalker story didn't start when she divorced her husband, she was paranoid for years prior, talking about incidents that never took place.
she happened to be dating a cop on and off during this time but there’s not a lot of info about him. i would not be surprised if he had done it and the police department tried to cover it up to protect their own. it wouldn’t be the first time that has happened.
I was thinking that maybe a cop was involved with the amount of bs they were pulling. Her having a relationship with a cop would make sooo much sense. Thanks for putting this out there.
@Pops evidence locker seems like it would be the place to get some morphine. Idk if that a common thing though, just a guess
@Pops I’ve worked as a nurse for 8 years and those medications and heavily guarded and checking in and out (most places under video surveillance since the opioid epidemic)
I agree I think it’s the ex husband and not a random cop but it’s just as easy for a cop to get it as a psychiatrist (which they don’t prescribe opioids as far as I’m aware)
But I was just answering your questions of how a cop COULD get morphine.
@@ASMRKay_ This case occurred in Canada in the 1980s before the opioid crisis. The fact that her ex-husband was found lurking in her back yard does seemingly make him appear guilty.
The cop's name was Pat McBride. He was the first officer called out to Cindy's house when the incidents first started. They developed a romantic relationship (inappropriate) and he even moved in with her! Even worse, Pat McBride has been convicted of sexually assaulting two women, but the police cleared him of involvement in Cindy's case. Very suspish.
As a DV survivor, I’ve often said “no one believes us until we are killed”…. I guess that’s not even always the case. RIP
This is awful. This makes 0 sense. How could she have tied her own hands behind her back AND strangled herself?? How? Ugh.
Yeah! (Unless she had telekinesis, or something like that.)
@@christopherhorn1161 yeah child rapists have that special ability but not humans.
Yay! We missed you. Glad you got a break but we still missed you.
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Unfortunate i suppose so 👁👄👁
g r e g yes
He’s a psychiatrist. The needle part makes A LOT of sense. He knew where to go with it. It was the ex husband or someone trying to frame him, which seems super unlikely.
Also since he’s a psychiatrist he would know how to drive her to insanity or at least make it seem like she was because he deals with people that are ill
I agree
It was a woman's voice in the telephone calls. She was stalked by a woman (maybe by a group of people but if so, at least 1 woman is in that group of people because a female voice can be heard in the voice mail and telephone).
Therapists use needles I know this cause my dad is a psychiatrist and he doesn’t use needles
@@imagine1145 this is completely false. Therapist are not licensed to even prescribe medication let alone trained how to administer an injectable.
That being said I’m also not familiar with any psychiatrist just injecting their patients, especially not with morphine. But unlike therapist, psychiatrist are licensed to write prescriptions which is typically why a person would choose and psychiatrist over a psychologist.
Watching this a year later and seeing her now at 6 million something just makes me so happy that soo many others are enjoying her as much as I have since Pretty much day one!! She’s just soo amazing! Congrats girl!!!! Soo happy for you!!!
Why is no one talking about how Agnes’ husband ran outside when the house was on fire and said he saw a man STANDING OUTSIDE STARING AT THE HOUSE AND TOOK OFF RUNNING!! That doesn’t seem like coincidence... and If Cindy was doing it to herself, the friend wouldn’t have decided to make up a story about a man out front...right? That seems like it backs up Cindy at least a little bit!
That’s the main thing I thought about. She had others to corroborate her story.
It does make a lot of sense but that police department was useless I must say lazy, very sad story indeed.
I was thinking if it weren't the ex-husband could it still have been someone close to her? Like Agnes, another friend? Stalkers aren't always strangers as was once thought 🤔
That made me freeze in fear..
that’s what i was thinking!!!! did that man not tell anyone about the guy staring at the house and then running away?!?!? that just speaks that someone was up to something. also the fact that her hands were tied behind her back and then strangled? how can someone physically do that?
I’m amazed at how after her passing, the cops still try to blame her. They had no evidence against the husband? Oh gee wonder why 🤦🏽♀️
Definitely hubs because the minute she reported him, he killed her basically.
Yesss exactly I think it’s the doctor , she was happy to even leave him and move on
and he had his excuse ready, he knew the police would believe him, a dOcTor over her. He made her crazy so he could have an easy escape during the questions they asked him
i have just listened to the rather lengthy audiobook on this case called "Death by unknown event" i was so gripped by the tale that i came looking for more ty Bailey for including this in your portfolio. i do understand that you have limited time to cover it but the book gives so many more details such as the fact that one of the cops actually became besotted with her too and moved in for a month
“Like most Monday’s” 😂 Girl it feels like so long when that off Monday hits. But always worth the wait!
It really does. As soon as it said she posted I was here😂
It’s a full TWO weeks, also I have been around a while before she started taking a much needed off day, so it feels like a year before the next vid🙃
True Crime narrator in 20 years: So there was this youtuber who just hit 2 million followers and then made a cult.
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AxxL what??? You ok?
@@seajay2157 there is always one 😂
This is so confusing. How is this woman beating tf out her self, strangling herself, injecting herself w morphine and tying her hands behind her back? She could’ve survived if the officers ego would allow them to accept being wrong
i went into this thinking it was about bailey and i was very concerned
Ellie Gilmartin never I love her😭
Police have been telling me the same story!!! Makes no kind of sense does it!!! 😷😎😷
She could’ve survived if they did their job when she first came to them. This is honestly so sad.
Exactly!!