Motorized Bike Salvaging
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- This week we salvage some junk bikes as we continue to try and build a 4 stroke. We also take the Kent Bayside for it's first long ride.
Sorry we missed last weeks video, this build has been a PAIN! #Ilove2strokes
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Oil: 32:1, semi synthetic, random brands.
Gas: 87oct
Spark Plug: NGK B8HS (yd-100), NGK B6HS (pk80)
Parts: I buy mostly from Amazon.
Favorite Motor: Zeda (Firestorm) Triple 40
Favorite Carburetor: NT Speed
Favorite Bike For A Motor: I don't have one yet.
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My son and I purchased of 49cc 4stroke kit from Bikeberry. We installed it on a Trek 10-speed frame in about 4-5 hours. We tested it on the road by the house for about 10 minutes, then checked it all over, chain tension, bolts and nuts. Then he got on it and drove it to his house 32 miles from mine in about an hour and 15 minutes. Probably has 2000 miles on it now and other than a couple of drive belts has given NOT ONE PROBLEM.
Congrats! you have any videos of this build? I would lover to see your set up to help give me an idea of what I might be missing?
@LAHover you picked the worst possible 4 stroke ever lol.that Trans is trash. 2 stroke constantly need repairs, when you get a 4stroke running yet it never breaks down
Got a 49cc 4 stroke on a micargi Seattle cruiser. I put about 20 miles on it everyday. In fact it's reliability has swayed me away from 2 strokes. I can't imagine why you had so many problems.probably because you used BIKEBERRY! Unfortunately I don't ride trails with it per se every so often off road. I'll tell you this though I'm like 300lbs and I have no pedal chain. I can take off from a stop no pedals required. And it accelerates uphill
What I did on mine was just weld the plate to the frame. It gives you some extra room in the frame since you eliminate the mounting studs, but if you ever plan on using the bike for anything else that might be a problem.
I am building a 4 stoke and that is all it will be used for. Regular bike for exercise and motor when I get tired. It will be a lot more motor in the beginning as it will take me all winter to build it. Never done this before and been super years since I even been on a bike as I am now 59. HAHAHAHAHA. Don't have a lot of money to throw away so I have to do it right the first time by being very slow and very carefully in building it. LOTS OF UA-cam'S.
My first build is a Kent Seachange with a 49cc 4 stroke engine.
I picked a very difficult bike and motor combination, but I made i work. VERY FRUSTRATING.
Lots of motor mount issues , cutting and drilling . It BARLEY fit.
Some say you can't put a 49cc 4 stroke engine on a Kent Seachange.
But I did .
My next build will be a bigger frame with down tube belly .
I prefer the 49cc 4 stroke engine.
I wish I could post pictures of my bike.
It actually turned out very nice.
Use 2 hose clamps on the underside of the moter mount, keeps it from sliding. Me and my dad had the same problem, and the hose clamps fixed it completely
Keep the light on our side
Morale of the story is, never buy from BikeBerry
Yes they are very over priced
I thought they closed
@@denveradventures589 no they are still around
Try a 4 stroke predator with a centrifugal clutch
I got my kit from gasbike. It came with the 100tooth transmission. The only issue I ever had with it was the transmission bearings, they had to be changed after 2000km and the 20tooth pulley shaft had some wear which I built back with epoxy. The concentric housing for the 100tooth pulley also had wear due to the bearings spinning inside it but new bearings went back in perfectly. The spacer between the 100t pulley and bearing also wore out and I replaced with stainless steel washers and the inner ring from one of the old bearings. Other than that, the engine works perfectly. Everything else - mount, tensioner, tank had to be checked and adjusted until I figured it out but it all works.
You got the G7, or G8. I just paid a hundred and thirty bucks for the G8 night transmission, I'm wondering if I'll have any of those issues, but so far so good.
I'm 11years on a China doll, more than 15000 verifiable miles, not even a spark plug. Proof that they can be lovely
Just got a bayside for my birthday and I'm loving it so far. Been debating whether or not to jump in and add a two stroke to it. Love the videos.
Good to here! Seems like a solid bike for far, Time will tell :)
Worst problem with my 4 stroke build has been bearings in the rear of the transmission. I've got the 100 tooth belt drive setup, and she's got plenty of torque taking off. Just wish it was on a 26 inch bike with a 44 tooth rear sprocket. Its on a 28 inch wheel bike, which it will do 32 mph on.
Thanks for the heads up
@@LAHover your welcome. Mine is on a Kent Ridgeland.
I got my 4 stroke kit off ebay i think it was190$ and i had none of these issues.
Nice, got any videos of it? I sub by the way, love the YD-100 build you have :)
@@LAHover Thanks for the comment and the sub.No video yet will try to post one this weekend..
Hyper beach cruiser will fit a 4-stroke with no problem they're four stroke friendly but you would take the wheels off to Cranbrook and put it on the hyper I would suggest that deal they're hyper wheels suck if you would notice my video I had swapped the wheels out for mag wheels
@@rdhudon7469 I had to add some homemade spacers to get them to line up with the mag wheels I used a couple nuts from another wheel the locking nut that's how I was able to get it to line up
@@rdhudon7469 no the small cone knocking nuts not the thicker ones I used one on one side and two on the other side and that's what give me my alignment
@@rdhudon7469 it's just hard spraining the frame apart far enough to get it to line up but you just have to make sure the chain alignment with the crank is the same like I said I just used One locking cone nut a thin one on the pedal crank side and then two small rocking cone nut on the right side and then that's what spaced it out with the disc brake and everything and it had no chain line problem but every bike might be different cuz I know some hyper frames or larger than the other frame mine's a 20/20 model and the frame is bigger I had to put a motor mount in place to hold the motor up otherwise the motor was too small
get a 4 stroke with a belt drive, it would be a night and day difference between that and a single chain pocketbike gearbox
Good video. I really want to mess with a 4 stroke but I like how thin the 2 strokes are.
You and me both!
I've noticed many of the four stroke kits come with a wide crank set but if you have an older bike, those crank sets can be a real bear to extract, and really why even bother when you can get so much more out of a two stroke with fewer points of potential failure and greater potential for upgrading? Not to mention a cheaper level of entry.
Exactly. To many things that you have to do with a 4 stroke that are completely unnecessary compared to a 2 cycle.
Everyone who sells them parts will tell you to get the heavy duty mount, the reason being is that they sit better on the frame. Plus get the belt to chain kit for the transmission, it won’t be as much of a hassle to work with.
You could probably also sell the frames. If they're alloy, they're expensive. if they're steel, they absorb engine vibration well and are good for motorizing. Anyways thanks for this video, I already have a 2 stroke bike and was undecided whether to upgrade to 4 stroke (noise issues). After the pain of mounting a 66cc on to a 20" folder I'm not sure I'd like a do over by trying to replace it with a 4-stroke.
Could always weld the motor mount to the frame
Bro I've been waiting for this... I'm not surprised, I've been watching your videos since the beginning, and your the reason me and my wife BOTH have two stroke bikes!!! We don't have a "Henry" but she has the Bayside and I have a granite peak... Let's just do two stroke action... And also it looks like pulstarting just sucks!!! I just like to dump the clutch and be gone!!! Ok I'm done lol later bro
Nevermind the fact 4strokes are more reliable, quieter, and more powerful. Just because that's your opinion of 4strokes, doesn't make it Fact. Respectively, Bro
Thanks! :) The 2 strokes have spoiled me as well lol. We will get this little 4 banger running, but my heart will probably always be with the 2 strokes ;)
If by chance you decide to go with a hyper remember one important part one is still and they make one aluminum when you want the steel frame take a magnet with you
Gotta grind the mating surface of that plate to match the angle of each particular bicycle.
they really keep the roads well-maintained out there
I remade the mounting plate out of thicker stainless steel than added a third motor mount to center the engine using to bolt wholes on the 4 stroke engine and used a 2 stroke case aluminum tube mount half it has held up really well truly almost no maintenance besides the chain up keep and changing the oil and keeping the aftermarket carb clean. But I still like the speed and versatility of my 2 stroke sbp shift kit bike. The 4 stroke shines at slower in town or city riding I love it for that. Jump on it and go
I had to weld my motor mount on for my 4 stroke
I got a free four stroke from my friend and I use it. The same thing happened with my mounting plate and that was one from a huwaswang. I don’t like 4 strokes 2 strokes all the way!
Cool video and well done on Savageing the bikes, and hope you get that four-stroke running top of the line 💪🚲💨💨💨 cool song at the end 💨💨💨
Thanks! we will get her running strong :)
So like, i love this guy and i own a 80cc but it seems like most of the problems with the kit is his bike.
Two stroke best. Lighter weight and you carry up the steps
sick Azz Video THAnks Hover
If you take the black plate from in front of the carb crab and bore the hole bigger on it then put it behind the carb you get more power out of your motor
Think you could put a couple tacs to the frame if the metal ain't to thin
The two strokes handle getting banged around a little bit better than the four strokes.
Southern customs says the hyper is 4-stroke friendly
Ok had to tell someone got an 85 running with an velocity stack only went round the block chain off ..... Back out it stayed on and first test for speed I got a 33 .8 k m ph .... Delighted for first test can't wait till tomorrow morning
I'd Mount A Couple Pieces of Angle Iron 1.25" And Then Sandwich The Frame From Both Sides.. Nice And Secure ... I Put 66/80cc 2 Strokes On Chopper Bikes.. I Had My Own Personal Bike Going 63mph Last Summer... Fastest One I've Ever Built.. It's A Blast (But, Then You Remember... Hey, This IS A Bicycle Frame...Lol. .. I Only Did It As A Test Because You Could Tell It Had The Power.. That Motor Was An Old Grubee Skyhawk Engine With Minor Upgrades.. Just Lucky I Guess?)... Anyway, Excellent Videos !!!
I hope to see a review on the Kent soon. Looks like an awesome bike!
I think the reason there isnt alot of videos of people and their 4 stroke bikes is the 4 stroke kits are not as customizable and so alot less subjects for content. then you also have the community that likes these bikes and searches for videos about them wants to learn about all the mods they can do to them. the 4 stroke people(me included) just want something simple,efficient and reliable.
I wish you the best of luck
To hold the chain in alignment move the engine fully back and shorten the chain to length that should help
I love your videos. This one in particular because I have bought the same kit from bike berry. The mount did suck. And origanlly I used it as a friction drive and the same thing happened to me with the spring on the clutch. I then mounted it on my 26inch mountain bike and again had the same problem as you with the chain and transmission,and the motor mount. I finally bought a new4 stroke kit with a belt drive to chain transmission. Was the 5g or 7g kit. It had a better motor mount also. I finally bought a80 cc two stroke kit and loved the simplicity of it. It came from anbul. So far I've ran about two tanks of gas through it and no problems at all. Well I upgraded the cdi because of rain issues and water. I would be happy to send a video some day of my 4 stroke build.
You should sraight pipe it with those 4 stoke engines you can
Salvage the suspension forks they are great
You should build a minarelli hybrid. I know youre not after blistering speed, but id enjoy watching you build one. I built a "budget" one and have some videos of it, however you are MUCH better at making videos. Safe riding bud!
If I do I'll put it on a dedicated trail bike and make the "Poor Man's Dirt Bike" 2.0 :)
in order to fit a 3 piece crank on a bike that was using a 1 piece crank, you need something called a "Truvativ American to Euro Bmx Adapter". works great for me.
Next up Electric ⚡️....You got some patience lol Great video man keep it up
Appreciate it
Princess auto a few months back had those engines on for sale for 100 bucks that was one of the reasons why I wanted to get a fourth stroke I could go to the store and buy a whole engine
The 4 strokes are less demanding ..they are reliable and more comfortable this is why most videos about them are just road use
you probably know this, but imma put it out there, that jerkiness you experienced at 9:00 was due to the governor kicking in, disconnect the governor and you wont have that problem. when the motor died at 8:32. need to adjust the idle screw, which you probably already knew this.
Ya their og mounting plate it horibble so I caved with frustration at spent another $60 f- ing bucks for their cast iron plate!! However since then my 49cc four stroke kit works great and I have loved having it for over 250 miles now with no major problems!!
I have a question for you LA Hover, why do none of your bikes that I've seen have high compression heads on them?
Hi, I've been wanting to build a motorized bicycle for a long time and I've finally got the opportunity to build one (and a few friends to cruise with) I'm thinking about going with a 4 stroke engine and I've been trying to do my research but I cannot for the life of me find anybody that has mounted a 4 stroke to a kent bayside. I love the look of the bike and have some really neat ideas for it but again I juyst cant figure out if the engine will fit. Sorry for the text wall, I've been watching all your videos and saw the Bayside in the thumbnail and jumped out of my chair.
TLDR: can I put a 4 stroke on the kent Bayside? If not do you have a similar price and looking recommendation that can fit the 4 stroke?
My 50cc OHV motor is fitted in the Aluminum frame that has the built in fuel tank. These frames are available States sided.
I could not make it fit in the Bayside (as shown in the video). It fit nicely inside the Cranbrook (also, as shown in the video). Good luck, I'm still trying to make it work lol.
I had much trouble getting my 4 stroke to stay running as well . It ended up being a throttle cable kept getting loose . An easy fix .
I also had many problems trying to get the motor to mount inside the Bike Berry Switz Cruze bike not having enough room without cutting the choke lever down. So I turned the thing into the Lock and Load friction bike and that worked with many adjustments as well. So I guess it's a huffy with a special pedal crank for me or another friction bike only this time a Stanton unit with a Honda motor. One main problem with a friction drive is the potholes keep bouncing the motor off the rear wheel. So anything you do for a Motorized bike you are going to have some sort of problem . get used to it. Sorry.
I had one the normal gearbox sucks I had a belt drive gearbox I couldn't keep the clutch fixed and I just got rid of it imo to have any reliability you'd have to find a clutch thats compatible but I'd take a 2 stroke anyday over these
i had a Roadmaster in 1986 but i think that was a separate company not connected to AMF
I love my 2 stroke I've been working on it lately
You make me nervous with sharp objects
Neat!
Hey bud maybe try the belt drive transmission instead of the chain drive I had the chain drive and the pads would wear down also on me as well quick
you probably need a 3 wheeler for a four stroke engine, that way there's more room in the middle
8:20 Who's cutting their grass? 😆
put put put put put put
I wanna build one in the future I like the 4 stroke cause I don't have to mix gas an oil an I really don't get the ratios but I like the 2 strokes cause can just pedal an use the clutch to start instead of pull starting like the 4 stroke
Was the kemp bay side muffler modified? I actually started to look into 4 strokes too. Dealt with them before. Great ride and tune. Thank you!
I see the googly eyes piston right by the tank and by the white shirt
you should put a pit bike plastic kit on one of your bikes ive done it and Ive seen some other people do it. it looks awesome!
Can you tell me where I can get plastics please?
@@fmfinlay9602 I got mine off amazon for for 60 bucks
@@ELF_Minor thanks
Those 4 stroke kits are very frustrating. I sold the kit I bought from Gasbike last weekend. I appreciate you doing a 4 stroke build though.
I agree 2 stroke engines are MUCH better suited to any bicycle
I'm just trying to get a engine to put on a bike for the summer because I'm not old enough for my license and dont want to go thru the hassle of getting my moped licesnse
I'm thinking of building a 4 stroke bike this summer with a generic Amazon 4 stroke and a huffy cranbrook. Hover, does the 4 stroke fit in the cranbrook? Other than the flimsy mounting yours has, does the engine fit in the cranbrook frame? How was it to install? I hope my amazon kit will not come with the same mounting yours has, sounds like a headache to work with. I hope you get it going good. Maybe you need to get one of the steel or stronger mounting plates.
It fit inside the Cranbrook with no issues. love these little Cranbrooks, they have so much room lol... A bunch of viewers have been giving me tips on how to fix the mount, so by the time you get yours I should have mine updated.
Sounds good, by the way motoos actually makes a 4 stroke, that was the one I was going to get but recently it went unavailable so hopefully it comes back.
@@WhiskersTheFish it fits no problem. Just keep the stocl box exhaust on there. The pipe style exaust will cause clearance issues
The four stroke engines work great on Mud Mowers 👍
U straight up need a road bike like hr dog leashed bike. Youll be freaking flying down highways (aerodynamics and weight differencess)
I bought a roadie for $10 a while back. I've done a little work to it but no motor... Yet
@@NicksBikesqow extremely great buy. You saved about 800$. Im sure the bike brand mew was once sold for around that or more.
Weld the mounting plate to the frame possibly
If you think putting a 49cc on a frame is difficult, try a 79cc 4 stroke which is the kit I got it’s pretty bulky but it’s actually pretty easy ngl
dude i wish i had thought much working motor bikes
I need help finding a hub adapter for my Huffy 26” mountain bike. I want to get rid of the rag joint but my rear hub measures about 0.62 mm. The only ones I can find are for 1” 1.5”. Can you help?
You ever use the one rag joint method, it works so much better than two, but surprisingly I don't see many people using it. But way better than a hub adapter, Hub adapters kind of suck, they're only held together by two screws, they almost always end up sliding and destroying the wheels. Couple success stories here and there but usually doesn't end well. I use brake mounts now.
In order to have the engine from slipping. You must ad a third mount. Best to triangulate the it. Use a turnbuckle I find a good place on that specific engine. Going from the top tube of frame down to where the engine and transmission sandwich. engine.
Thanks for the tip!
You know you should make a bike that starts with the kich stands its actually pretty cool
I will meet you halfway bring me your frame your rear wheel and the motor I will put on a proper mount to your specifications of course free of charge it will make some good videos and you will get a great trial bike
Thanks for the offer :) I'm thinking about getting a fat bike for this motor, if I do I might take you up on it.
@@LAHover great just let me know
@@LAHover I have seen that motor on a fat tire bike before. It looked like it had one of those shift kits on it, from Sick Bike Parts. I think that's how I would do it. Otherwise getting the chain to cleat the fat tire and still have a rear disk break may be tricky.
You can buy a 4 stroke kit with motor on Amazon for 160 to 180
???? I want to go with a 2 stroke. Is there a way of adding rubber motor mounts either to the frame or engine. Wiuld it serve any real purpose. Reduce vibration. ????
What is a good strong bike for a motorized bike build
Will i have to take out the choke to run the stack . ... And what did you use to fill the gap as I'm cutting bits off the hose to try and get it to flow through
Can anyone tell me where I can find a rear hub sprocket adapter that measured around 0.6???. The bike is a 26” Huffy mountain bike 21 speed.
Jesus Christ the noise off it
Are you still going to get a new zeda 80 firestorm i found them on Amazon 189 dollars with free shipping
Hey I got a Giant Talon xl3, would a high performance carburetor fit or ill have to buy a different one, and for my brakes, which one should I buy cause i gotta remove my back disc brakes pls help
I have the same bike what break pads did you swap out with lolll
Will you look into the faker felt gas tank bicycle frames?
The felt faker tank frames are nice I've got one they're light and sturdy, they are aluminum though so you want to make sure the wheel axle spacing fits well because you don't want to try to spread aluminum chainstays that can cause stress cracking in the metal. I have however heard that on larger 4 stroke engines like 212's they need a shorter valve cover to clear but I stick to 2 strokes so I haven't tried it myself to say for certain.
some day for sure :)
I'll never understand why nobody makes a 4 stroke small with a manual clutch like a 2 stroke. Sure it would be a little bigger than the 2 stroke but it would mount easier and be far less trouble
4 strokes vs 2 strokes, eh different strokes for different folks
Hey bro. Love your videos. Very helpful and insightful. I have a China doll motor on a wally beach cruiser but noticed one of the bolts that secures the u bolt bracket to the down tube that goes into the motor won’t fully tighten. I think the treads in the hole in the motor may be stripped out How can I fix this?
Bet
I’ll do it
I’ll send a vid trail riding
Sweet! can't wait :)
I purchased the friction drive kit from Bike Berry last December, was missing 80% of the hardware and had to fight with them over the phone multiple times to get them to send me the rest, so beware?
Is anybody having trouble with the magneto I put a new 1 on my 66 cc an it already went out 2 weeks later don't know what the deal is
It looks as if you broke the same spring I broke on my engine exactly like that one on the three-way clutch what did you do to fix it I cannot find a replacement spring
Hey brother,be careful with that Ave style box opening😁😳
Too late
I have a 4 stroke kit but no cam to shoot video.
all good man, how is it holding up for you? and what bike is it on?
the discord link isn't valid anymore =
Come on Bike Berry, improve your Q.A. before stuff ships! Dang, I don't want to buy from you with that record.