I'm flying wings and I went for Walksnail because ...
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Here is the first video on my walksnail adventure! As mentioned in the poll I did make my mind about what it is and and what it should do for me. I'll try to tell why I went for Walksnail instead of one of the other options.
I've wrapped it up in some words for you and added a bunch of examples on how I experience the Walksnail system in my use case.
In the follow ups I will hand over some details on how I set my stuff up and how things changed for me.
Hope to have you guys with me in the next episode.
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Finally someone who speaks the fucking truth. So many YT like to sugarcoat their opinions on the HD systems because they want to keep getting free stuff from them.
Thank you, love your channel
Thank you for your nice comment - glad I could meet up to your thoughts. There will be more of this soon
Absolutely spot on mate, I totally agree, I’m trying to make an informed decision on what system to move to and trying to find integrity is like trying to find rocking horse 💩! On top of what you said there are those who are trying to justify their purchase as well not helping things! The amount of turd polishing is crazy! 😅🤝
I think you are wrong . There is no best system for everybody and the stated reasons in this video won,t work to everybody. Try to understand that.
Great walk through. Bought the walksnail system just before Christmas and now upgrading my wings. Looking forward to seeing your longer range flights in warmer weather 👍
Then we are in the same situation. Weather here is still no friend and it will take some time to get the Range tests flown. But … we’ve got plenty of time
The intro is amazing- this whole video is!
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences 👍🤝✊
You are very welcome, friend
Agreed, Walksnail is a really nice system for fixed wings. I have tested it the other day and was blown away by the 1080p image in the goggle even though I also fly dji (v1)! The only downside I found for now was a bit laggy/choppy feeling through strong turbulences, it didn’t feel smooth. But turbulences never feel great anyway so not such a big deal…
Haha, yes, they suck …
Nicely done. This will change the way you fly. Less way up high more low obstacle dodging. Being able to see clearly will make you a better pilot! Really it is all about the cost. Walksnail is best bang for the buck. I don't understand why everyone that doesn't have DJI talks about being shackled with the system? Never have thought that once in 4 years of flying it and being satisfied with what I can see and do.
It works for you … that’s what is important. But for those who bought a o3 system it was not that fun recently. But perhaps I can’t evaluate it in the same way as you … do t have the system and I l my tried it
Started on early DJI Phantom series digital FPV, went to analogue 5.8GHz, then 1.3GHz, then HDZero and finally found the perfect system in Walksnail.
sounds a bit like my story too ... mine was just not digital :D
Nice review. Thanks! I'm choosing this over the DJI 03 because the DJI transmitter will not go out of low power mode unless armed by a flight controller. I too fly fixed wing and don't use a flight controller. I can just power the Walksnail Avatar straight from a battery or a UBEC.
Glad you liked it - still considering walksnail to be the best choice currently
Great job, thanks for sharing
Im the one to say Thanks for watching, friend
Great video, expecting my Walksnail order any day!
I hope it will work out for you. And glad, you found this video usefull
I bought the DJI digital goggles in May of 2020 and they're already incompatible with both of their FPV quads and the O3 unit. So Walksnail it is from now on.
Sad to hear how this went for you- to be fair we don’t know how long walksnail will be supported. But I would assume it’s holding on longer than dji
As someone who flies wings and has just discovered this channel, I subbed. Honest personal opinion about the different digital systems that align with my own although I went for DJI because I was able to get the V2 goggles fairly cheaply (€360) second hand, almost unused. I just hope the O3 unit will get proper INAV support because currently DJI has only implemented Betaflight glyphs (OSD characters) so most of the OSD elements that are unique to INAV are not properly displayed.
Currently I'm flying with the DJI Air Unit with the root exploit & wtfos / wtfosd which is awesome.
Cheers!
Thanks for the sub- be welcome here. Brand you’re flying doesn’t matter- it’s all about the fun we can make of it.
Lots of great info, and with some re-consideration of priorities. Will be curious how video quality works with range as you get more stick time, and confidence grows. Video quality is a good match for fixed wings. Particularly how handles sun, clouds. Video with grey skys and snow was great.
Have to thank you and Keith (bonafidepirate) for putting out great content. Really helps to establish expectations for seeing real use cases.
VTx and camera budget will be a challenge with any digital system with a fleet of more than 3 planes. A good reason to try fly and test as much as possible before ordering more than a couple units.
Placement of VTx, Rx, and GPS antennas may need some re-thinking. Think having VTx in fuselage, not far from the FC and battery as you have done is good initial plan, as allow easy swapping, or bench work. Heating could be issue, but having good ventilation should solve. Worse case is can add a micro fan intended for cooling print-head on 3d-printer. They typically 5V, small and light.
Curious, was this a new T1 build? Like the minimalist colour scheme (7:46). Assuming that's a vinyl wrap on the ailerons?
Thanks a lot for another extended valuable reply of yours - I really like that dialog.
My goal is to live the system up to my tasks and NOT end up adding fans and stuff to a wing/plane that not really needs more than some good idea and and overhaul of the normal "routine". There will be no fan for me! For others this may vary of course.
The T1 is my white (2nd) T1 Ranger with pro components ... (new hee wing motors and stuff) and yes ... vinyls i cut out for the CuG meeting. I likehow it turned out and still is recognizeable as what it is.
@@JustFPV-net Agree, without fan is ideal. It may take some experimentation, and testing. But that all means more flying to verify. This not a negative. ;)
Thanks. Great T1 setup, and love the look.
Yeah … we should all be flying more these days and at chance ;) but our time will come
Wow I have learned so much just from reading your conversation 😃🤝😎
Well .. there are plenty of nice people around in my comments as it seems- and then these conversations start
My solution for the hole analog vtx's leave behind. walksnail doesn't play too nice with gps in close proximity. I do the standard vtx on one wing, radio rx on the other wing and centrally mounted gps for analog wings, so with wings being converted to walksnail and hdzero I've been moving the gps out to the wing.
As someone else mentioned, if you want some range you will want a high gain antenna on the transmit antenna port of the goggles. 👍
I will consider this - and I’m waiting for my 13db antennas ;)
@@JustFPV-net I just got some of those, has done wonders for my range after swapping the ufl in the goggle between antenna 1 and 3, effectively moving the transmit antenna to the front right port. Excited to see more of your flights. 😁👍
:) … coming up soon as the weather permits it
I'm already invested in DJI. I just bought an O3 vtx too. What will determine whether or not I stay with them is DJI's support of the Goggles V2 hardware I have. I'm not impressed that they left the V1 headset owners behind with the O3 air unit. Sure, the controller won't work with the new units but the V1 headset should be able to support the O3 in 5.8Ghz mode just like the Goggles V2 when used without the DJI controller. The Goggles V1 are only 3 years old and it's unacceptable that they're being left behind that quickly especially given the cost of the system.
I think you made the right choice going with Walksnail. Support the vendors that support you.
Fingers crossed for you that it will turn out to the good - we’ll see, where we end up with our gear
Great video, thanks! I purchased the Walksnail goggles and the nano TX/cam for a fixed wing RC plane -- based on your excellent review. I'm an experienced fixed wing pilot, but not too familiar with the FPV/drone world. QUESTION: after connecting the appropriate antennas, I can just power up the Tx/Cam with a small 2-4s lipo, link it to the goggles, and I should be good to go, right? Am I missing anything?
Glad I could give you that confidence to go for Walksnail. Myself I'm still flying it and it was a good decision so far.
Now, about your question- I would assume it to be ok like that! The VTX and the Cam are transmitting and should do so even if there is no FC. Just watch the power levels on the VTX. Don't fry it with to much current ;)
@justfPV the solution for the gaps of old VTX and other cutoff foam is lightweight wall filling. It's called letvægtsfiler and you cam paint over if you want. It will hold strong i can verify that. Cheers from Denmark keep flying!
Mange tsk for det, ven- havde det skam ikke lige på plads. Jeg kommer til at finde noget på hjemme og fix eller lignende ;)))
Hilsener hernede fra - og ja, vi skal endelig starte igen når vejret er op til det ;-)
Great video. As you know I'm kind of in the same spot you are, having just started flying this system since the start of the year. I feel very much the same as you about it, most of the concerns I had were valid, just not to the same degree I expected. Kind of hard to go wrong at the current price point too, especially if you're just going to pick up the VRX like I did. I do have a question though. How are you showing the info at the bottom of the video without the recording icons up top? I'm guessing you're recording the output of the goggles doing a playback of recorded files? That's about the only thing I haven't done yet... lol Personally I'd love to have this option while flying too. Those recording icons bug me a bit, I've had to shift my OSD around so it doesn't cover them. I'd switch off the WS internal OSD, but I find the info along the bottom very useful. I'd even be OK if they just moved those icons down to the bottom with the others, maybe in the right side next to the standy/overheating icons... lol Anyway, looking forward to more videos as you get them out! Looking forward to flying more with mine too as the weather allows. I can hardly wait for next fall, hopefully the firmware will be more mature by then with some bugs fixed and added features, ready for those long summer evenings of calm air and nice lighting... ;)
Keith ... always great to have you around and I agree ... we are in the same situation currently. It's not so much "Hey look, ... I'm flying digital! Cheers!" ... it's more "How can this work for me with the benefits it advertises and WITHOUT the downsides!" ... we have to learn and to adapt to it. And that's what we need to do. Not buying this and expect every need satisfied at once :) ... That doesn' work the way and we have already figured this out where we came from (e.g. adding range to 5.8GHz or separating vtx from other stuff). So, how about we accept this and get out there and find the answers ? :)
Back to your question about the recording: You are using OBS and do a live recording of that! There you'll have the recording icons in the osd .. as it is live. I have a frame grabber and record the osd via HDMI-out and so those red dots are left out. The bar beneat is controllen by a setting called "goggle" .. and offer SHOW ICON/OFF/ FC CONTROL ... didnt figure out, what fc control actually does but well ... I usually have it on and that's where the bar comes from. Fun fact: you can enable and disable the ranging mode which show the estimated range in the bar (or not). But in the latest beta it doesnt work. I recall it was possible once ... let's see about this in the next stable.
WE NEED MORE STICKTIME ... thats for sure!
See you around, friend
@@JustFPV-net I noticed the Ranging Mode always on too, even though it was turned off in my settings. I asked on Discord but no one answered, so I assumed no one else noticed or wasn't seeing the same problem... lol Later while playing around with different settings, I found that once I switched Ranging Mode ON, then back OFF again, it has started working. I can turn that on or off at will and it works. Funny thing though, since it was switched on I had compared it's "estimated" range to what my GPS was showing, and found it to be pretty accurate. I ended up leaving it on for now just for the novelty, but will probably switch it off at some point to have room for an OSD item from the flight controller there. Try turning it on then back off again and see if it works for you.
oh, thats a good one ... thanks and I will be trying this. Must have been something that has changed from one firmware to another, perhaps had a undefined state and with that assumed to be "ON".
It has been a bit silent on discord but I would assume it to be because of the Year of the Rabbit (?) ... Chinese new year :) ... they just returned to theirs offices last saturday to get things rolling again.
Nice flight!
Thanks a lot
@@JustFPV-net Have you tried replacing the Omni with directional antenna?
Not yet … guess that’s coming up when the weather is friendly
I wonder what battery pack are you using on that headgear? I am also planning to fly wings that cause me to go with the walksnail path.
I commonly use a eachine Goggle pack which has 2 x 18650 and 3000mAh. Alternatively I use the delivered harness to connect a 3s 21700 with 4200mah … both worked well
@@JustFPV-net Great! I just bought the eachine 2s battery case as well as it is way more convenient to use if you just fly for a quick session.
Same thought here
May i ask why you choose the single Treu-rc antenne at the front of the goggles? There is also a double one, wouldn't that have give even better reception? Thanks in advance😊👍
Sure and of course you may ask. It was the first set I bought- had already figured out that the delivered default antennas didn’t have what it takes to suit me. So I bought this first trueRc set … and sold it later as I moved over to the double ones. With this I’m pretty happy now.
Hope it help and greetings over to the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Crashed my T1, cracked my camera and burned my vista (cable shorted)...just ordered 2nd Polar Vista. Lucky I didnt get O3. I am finding a way to switch to walksnail.
go easy ... just buy it instead of burning everything :) Walksnail isn't perfect but it performs very well so far!
Please try Walksnail 1s on wing- interesting how it performs on the wing and how far away you could fly
Sadly that's not going to happen for me. There is no point for me to build up a 1s setup in a wing ... Testing it would be cool but I think you'll be better suited to figure this out with some Mini LR quad on 1s ... if such makes any sense at all :)
I’m going to build 1s for proximity flying or just cruising around
then you're the one to tell us, whats possible with that :)
Hello. what antennas are you using in the glasses and in the aero? I'm using the original ones but my signal is losing quality very close.
On the VTX its default WS and on the goggle its a TrueRC Patch+Stubby set
Tks
@@gilbertorochacosta7053 you’re welcome
Walksnail is the best option that’s not DJI. I’m thinking about getting the VRX combo
For me this is true ... for somebody with DJI maybe not. And the O3 is surely tempting but for now and me it's walksnail. My Wingman has the VRX and he's about to try it when the weather is in our favour ... For me the Goggle was the better way :) But I'm used to look strange so ... :DDD
@@JustFPV-net I have DJI but wanted to make my analog googles digital as well. I don’t trust DJI for long range flights 😂
The O3 is supposed to cover 23km … which is a lot better than the old ones shutting the lights out at 13.6km
@@JustFPV-net do you know if I could use the true rc antenna’s on my dji goggles?
depends ... if you choose RHCP then I guess you are good! ...but don't take my word for granted here. I use some Antennas dor DJI (soon) ... but LHCP :)
Thanks for video. Are You using INAV? If yes, can You, please, share Your setup? I`m not able to make my WS VRX module work with INAV 5.1.0/ 6.0.0. OSD elements are blinking, looosing... DJI with WTFOS is running fine on my FPV birds, but at this moment I`m quite digusted from WS 😞
Did you set up ws to use INAV font? I’m using iNav 5.1
@@JustFPV-net Yes. But not working nor with buit-in fonts, nor with custom sneaky-fpv fonts...
Try to flash the latest beta.
@@JustFPV-net Not working, nor with 29.33.16, nor with 31.36.8 beta. I don`t know, what I`m doing bad :-) Maybe the problem is with VRX module only and Dominator is working fine... This is, how it looks like: ua-cam.com/video/t4t0YzUGcgk/v-deo.html
Is the iNav osd set to HDZERO?
So I noticed you are using the standard Walksnail antennas. From all reports there are pretty bad. I would suggest testing with some good quality antennas like from TrueRC.
Chris .... didn't you recognize the TRUERC Logo on my Antennas? ... :)) The Antennas on the VTX are default ... right, ... and they are not bad at all. But thanks for the hint. I've already got two other antennas for the VTX that will have to be tested. But I doubt it will do a big difference.
@@JustFPV-net From my understanding, only top right antenna on the goggles is transmitting. The other 3 are receive only. As the VTX has the hear the goggles, it's apparently important to have at least one patch on the top right if you're after long range. Unless you've internally swapped the antenna connectors.
Nope … haven’t but as I swapped that one antenna against my 14db patch it was crappy in reception. There is something about always to swap out 2 antennas (1+2 or 3+4) … and I’ll try that
@@JustFPV-net I noticed the trueRC patches but all antennas from walksnail a junk many people have reported
I say we will find out … even Wezley flew the stock antennas out at 30km … they can’t be that bad after all
I am surprised more people don't get it. DJI sucks as a company and should be avoided. HDzero is a great company but their system is heavily geared toward racing. that leaves walksnail for the majority of people and almost everyone fixed wing due to picture quality and range.
This reflects my thoughts 100% … thanks for your opinion
But o3 is inav supported now!
is it ? ... or is it planned for V6? I'm only aware of that RC1 of INAV6 is out. But good after all that something is happening for you with the O3.
@@JustFPV-net there was a video of Pavel or something about Inav 6 and DJI o3, not sure if it's final release or what they call it but it's promising! :)
Walksnail looks great too man congratulations, it's so good to have all this hd choices!
Indeed- having the choice is good for all of us. O3 is as mentioned cool.
I guess INAV 6 will open up for O3 as mentioned but it’s just not released. But that will happen soon so the wait may be over
you should maybe also mention the DJI data leaks and the ability of pretty much anyone with earoscope device to track location of your plane.. in case of more consumer drones even your location and of course for the US market and i’m sure every where else soon, the remote id lock that DJI is definitely planning. They wont allow you to take off without gps from your phone or something so that the government is happy and can track your location. This will 100% come and we have already seen it with avata. Hard to imagine they won’t do this for their other systems
That’s certainly true. But keep in mind how we got here with digital- can’t deny its to the efforts of dji.
So I’m happy we have the option of choosing what we’re flying.
I just purchased a few months ago the DJI V1 goggles for my wings & PLANES . IM not too sure I want to go with waLKSNAIL I have HD ZERO on One Wing and I absolutely hate it but I had HD ZERO on about six quads and love it I love HD ZERO on my quadS because I fly micros.
one of my favorite quads is the Darwin freestyle but I heavily modified it by putting HD ZERO on it change the motors and reinforce the lame frame
I would make no sense for you to change … your are equipped well and that’s good 👍
f dji
Why so harsh?
Dji for soy boys