Goggles were sent out for repair late April, delivered May 10th, was told repair process is 2-3 weeks after receipt of the item, June 29th, still no info. Definitely enjoying my Goggles X that I was able to use 3 times. Glad I have mostly analog and HDZ stuff installed.
@@elxero2189 yeah seems like people who buy HDZ lately are committed to it. I have batch 1 and 2 goggles and have not had issues with either set. Only had issues with analog once which was resolved with firmware updates. They seem quick to respond to issues when they come up as well. I have 3 backup freestyle V2s that I was expecting to need to use but haven’t needed to replace anything. I have a TanQ frame running HDZ that I took out in a blizzard and it still works flawlessly.
I think the real reason is because they only have a market share of 10% or maybe less, there's just not a lot of people who own them so there's not many for sale used. Plus, they are so expensive ... way, Way more than any other goggle, that once people finally saved up to buy them they didn't want to take a loss by selling them used... And they took so long to actual get them in hand! It's simply too bad the penetration and flying distance you can get "close to the ground" is so damn poor! It's maybe 30m before the snow starts to overwhelm them. Especially with any objects in-between you and the drone. Good ole Analog2! ... So close to the performance of "top quality" Analog, but typically over $900+ to get up and flying. 😢😮🤷 Definitely THE WORST VALUE in the history of FPV! Where else do you spend soooo much and just get a tiny little improvement over plain old Analog FPV performance! 💯🤦
@@420247paul...Exactly! And most people see that the improvements garnered are very slight over "Top Quality" Analog gear. You pay a T O N and you get a smidgen! Lol
Other than the zipper failing on the case my goggles have been great, I've had them since December. I can't wait for the GM Series gimbals with head-tracking particularly the GM2 and GM3 from Caddex!
jfc the zipper on this case is definitely abhorrent, not surprised other people are having the same issue going to have to think of some buckle-contraption to keep my goggles X case closed
Really glad this video was created. I have tried to keep the Zoom feature alive by mentioning it on the facebook group, sadly most would rather give caddx yet another break on failed promises. Instead caddx seem more focused on releasing even more half finished products.
I am always appetitive of the thorough work you do as well as the follow-up which to me is very important. I use Walksnail, however I will no use anything that is newly released. I wait for the major issues to be worked out and then I make my decision based on what the product does and not what is promised to do. Thanks again sir, your work is rock solid each and every time💪
Mine has the newes version of the heatsink and I was flying today for one hour in 32°C (90° F), standing in the shadow. No overheating issues. Thanks for the video.
I got a set with the new heart sink, it's been working great for the past 5 months. I had to add tape to partially cover the left lens vent to keep the right side from fogging. But no overheating issues, I run it for hours at a time in the Sim and it's been holding up flying in 100 degree heat. Caddx as a company are a bit frustrating for sure, I used to have a tarsier camera and I had to just stop using it because the software quit working. The software itself was half baked and from a third party. They need to work on their software side of things.
I had to buy the V1's because my first set of goggles died. They replaced it. Second set needed a new board which they sent me and I replaced. Worked great for a couple weeks and now the buttons no longer work including the button to bind quads and start a firmware update. They think the button board has either died or the wires leading to the board have come loose. Haven't had time to open it up to check but how does that even happen. Completely unhappy with Caddx.
That much thermal compound is going to hold heat... I was just looking to get into fpv. This looks very unrefined, I like putting stuff together and troubleshooting. The issue is time, I think I need something that just works and is complete.
To avoid having poor reception, do not tighten the screws of the new heatsink too hard, the PCB will be curved and will work less well (orange channel). the PCB must be unstressed. The old heatsink was soft and bent.
Looking into buying a pair of these as someone just getting into FPV. It being on-sale for under $400 is a pretty tempting offer but, maybe it would be better to get something cheaper and purely analog to save some money. Ugh... wish all these goggles weren't so damn expensive.
Yeah... My second set, the first was replaced for near constant black screens in January with a set with the heat sink improvements that arrived mid February, over the last couple weeks has been getting worse and worse to the point where if I plug them in before the aircraft, they will overheat and show a black screen before I plug in the craft and go fly. On top of that there's been no firmware in months with any fixes, new features, nothing. We haven't even seen anything for the moonlight that would make it dramatically better like any color modes that it already has as an available feature... with 1 option. To me, it feels like they are putting 100% into whatever this new RF board they said was coming when they announced the Goggles X, probably giving all of us with current "beta" hardware the middle finger to buy the "improved" version.
@@eriksen7022 Now months later during the summer here it appears so. They asked me to clean up the thermal paste under the heat sink on top and see if it persists. My set does have the black finned heatsink.
my primary function will be hdmi in.. rc2 supports hdmi out tested on hd tvs looks great...then i can use them w my pc and ps5 as well..and my phone.... as well as when i buy my racing drone and whoop... i can use with the walkingsnail ...ive looked at alot of goggles alot dont support 1080p 60 fps... 90 fps...30...100...but no 60 smh....so im glad to hear overheatinhg has been resolved i will be picking up a pair...awesome review!!!
Serious question here. Would I be better off with the Walksnail VRX for my HDzero goggles, than purchasing these goggle X? I primarily fly whoops and micros, all analog at this point. I do worry about the additional latency introduced when using the VRX over the goggles X themselves.
Bardwell said in his review that the latency of the VRX was between 50 and 60ms. Too much for me, but maybe ok for you? Why buy those Project Goggles when you can buy something that works for way less money. I'd get the DJI Integra goggles for $349 everywhere in the USA that sells them. Far superior performance, penetration, distance you can fly close to the ground with great clarity, reliability, durability, etc, etc, etc. And that's all with the Vista/Link, and even more so with 03. I fly 2" and 85mm whoops all the time with great ease and fun! Simply a FAR SUPERIOR product without all the unfinished bullshi%! A and unfulfilled promises! ...For less money, and with way better actual performance! 😎👍
@@KOrnhOliO1 I'm a hobbyist, I enjoy building, tinkering, and flying. I want to buy into products which support that. DJI while perhaps the king of digital systems, isn't really that sort of company (from what I've seen). One of the reasons I like analog, is the price is more respectable, there are many choices of parts (some come with stickers), the latency is good. I hope digital fpv can one day achieve what analog does (at least in two of those areas).
@@MadRC Thanks for your response (I've watched your videos on the topic those from others). Regardless, without the VRX and goggles in hand its tough to make a call without the feeling, and even more so knowing there is hidden latency there. All in all, as I've said in a comment above. I'm in this hobby for the hobby aspect as much as I am in it for flying. Tinkering, choosing for a range of parts, stickers, fixing broken things, its all important to me.
All FPV Googles cost to much. As much as DJI are also expensive they are quality and cutting edge tech. I'm happy with analogy but what Fatsnark and Snorka want for their old tech is silly. The viewfinder in my canon camera which is old, is way better than any FPV analog goggles.
In Australia can pick up some v1 dji goggles for around $200-250 aud . The v1 and a vista outshines the headaches it seems these other options seem to give .
@@mx118racer For sure! But, I'd look for the V2 goggles with the newer send and receive technology. They are compatible with the 03 VTX... THE VERY BEST... Where the V1 goggles aren't. They do analog great too with the URUAV metal analog adapter. Cheap and great!
Where are the dji haters now. Seems that walksnail isnt working great. Surely skydio will lobby for new goggles now 😆 Heard apple is going to be made in usa soon after the elections too. Damn it. Cant you just give dji and the chinese some credit for hard work and solid products? Still wish WS to succeed too.
Sounds like lots of things that shouldn't have to be but very likely could be fixed by the community if they jailbroke the goggles and opened up the features.
Well nothing new becaus it mostly work as it is... the gimbals just released does shows they still improves and expand product wise. (Actually im more positive than negative they have not released a new system not compatible with what I have today. Still rocking the original avatars...) so please what ever comes out next it must be compatible with existing hardware....
I feel like I wasted $450 buying these. I have gotten 2 flights on my goggles X since I bought them 6 months ago. Had overheating issues from the get go, and would only boot up 1 out of 10 times. Contacted support, was instructed to order the updated heat sink. I ordered it, got it a month later. Finally got it installed (which btw is probably not something that a newer fpv pilot should be getting into. Just my opinion.. Easy to damage the ribbon cable or one of the 5 ufl's) Installed the new heat sink per the Walksnail Wiki. I am on the newest stable firmware, 37.42.5 iirc. Image looks good from an Avatar unit, but within 5-10 min my image in the goggles are solid pink again. I ended up buying used Avatar V1 goggles so I could still fly walksnail while getting my goggles X sorted out. I really want this to work, so I can fly micros, and so I am not stuck flying only DJI. At this pace, the goggles X have soured me. I would have preferred to just get a replacement set, or send them in to have the work done. I feel like I shouldn't have to be elbow deep in new goggles.😅
Man that sucks, I hate to hear this. I jumped on the V1 CADDX version goggles and really like them. I am glad I hesitated to update to the X, lets hope the next release is better. I would assume they would have to be new as they will be adding support for the new Gimbals.
Bummer Bro! I fly my 60g 85mm whoop, similar to a Pavo Pico with a naked Vista in it, and it flies great. I also built a 75mm whoop that's 35g, but the sweet spot seems to be 2" props minimum. The 75mm is too fragile. But, micros are possible with DJI and they fly really nice too! Best thing is they have the reliability and durability of DJI. Unsurpassed in quality and performance, FOR SURE!!! People need to not lean on the manufacturers to build low weight, but durable micros for DJI. NONE of the BNF's are even close to the low weight you can build yourself! The manufacturers just don't get how to build to low weight, but still make it durable. Easy to build with a Vista/ Link, with just 4 wires. A hot, a ground, and an in and out for a Uart! Easy peasy! Love it, and no bullshit like with Walksnail and no super expensive HDZero with it's piss poor performance and penetration! 😎🤘
Anyone happy with their Goggles X want to comment? I really want to get some so i can fly whoops and see better but holy crap there are a lot of negative comments here and making me rethink getting them.
the heat sink shown is not the current version, but should already be included in a 12/23 build. The new heat sink is narrower so as not to cover the antenna terminals and prevent interference.
I got mine recently from RR, i originally got the fat sharks but they failed like those returned ones ian fixed, so rr let me upgrade to these! mine has the production date of april 2024, they didn't have the WiFi coax run under the heatsink like how ian ran his, the only issue i have is that my right lens fogs up very easily, I'd been thinking about doing a mod and putting a fan in the top, after seeing this video showing out the air flows across, the I'm definitely doing the fan modification!!! I really wish somebody would make a better 3d print for an analog module for these!!! One that you can add the bayck cooeye DVR that records the 60fps...
Get a Walksnail HD Pro package and then take the heat sync off the VTX (as it comes with the Nano). I did this after seeing Chris Rosser mention it… You'll only be able to record 1080p60fps with the DVR instead of 4k, but it's $150 instead of almost $300 for a naked o3. You need to shave every gram of weight when you do small digital builds… Also, the Walksnail pro HD camera is FAR better in low light, which helps for a drone you could potentially fly inside. I'm not a fanboy, so don't think that-I build my 5" with DJI o3, but it's a heavy VTX… If you want to do o3, Flywoo sells a naked o3 unit.
03, but if you don't care about 4k video from a small craft like that, just get a Vista/Link and lighten it up for even better flight performance. They're easy to make naked, which lowers the weight even more! I have an 85mm whoop I built with the best Vista and it weighs only 60 grams! Way, WAY less than any Pavo you've seen reviewed or for sale. Easy install too! Just a few minutes...💯😎🤘
Hi. Did you analyze issue with walksnail Moonlight unit? I was facing today some strange problem: my unit didn’t connect to googles and only 1 green led was on . I’ve found the solution on FB, it was related to screws.
my goggles x have a weird problem: they only turn on ONCE per day, after that they will always start with a black screen, no button responses. Ill send them back to caddx for repair
Two months ago Avatar module burned out after a few uses and 30 seconds of flying. They said to send it to China for repair, I sent it to them, in the end they said it is not repairable and there is no warranty because the warranty period is over (although they didn't say anything about it after I sent them the serial number of the device). They said they could give me a discount on a new unit, so I bought a new unit with a discount. The other day I started it up and it burned up after 30 seconds of flight, burning the ESC at the same time. I do not advise anyone to contact this company, the quality of equipment is low, as well as the quality of support.
It seems that until DJI competitors get serious about quality and capabilities, the gulf between DJI and their competitors will widen. It is suicide for a company to make promises and not deliver on those promises, especially turning out shoddily designed hardware. This is disappointing. I was hoping this was going to be the DJI head turner.
Exactly! Now I hear many are having problems with their Moonlight system! What product has Caddx released in the Walksnail system that HASN'T HAD MULTIPLE PROBLEMS, and promises not fulfilled? Z E R O ! Radio Shack used to make electronic kits. You'd build them yourself. This X system seems like a "PROJECT" I grew out of when I turned 15 years old! It's just like Beta FPV gear. You buy it and trouble shoot it for the manufacturer! Sheesh! No way it's for me! Lol 💯👎🤬
Would be really nice to support a competitor of DJI, to prevent monopoly. But sorry, just for the sake of not buying DJI, all the hassle? Yes, O3 OSD is a bit shitty, especially for Arduplane Pilots. But still better than that. No overheating, crystal clear image, 20km range with two mid sized patch Antennas.
I avoided all these problems and headaches by flying the SIM on a $15 1080p monitor from Goodwill. It was a better flying experience than this facehugger jww nk could ever hope to provide.
It's nice that there is competition. Unfortunately Caddx isn't really coming out with even near finished products, it seems more like, give them something new, they will buy it anyway. They should be ashamed about the Google X And that cable to connect the parts of the moonlight VTX sorry that's poor product design and being to cheap to change it to be perfect, or even be good. I'm disappointed Only thing which keeps me with walksnail is the 1S VTX cause it's light and unfortunately DJI won't come with something like that. HDZero was also fine but to expensive to keep it. I hope there will be someday a better solution
Signal issues still suck and aren’t flyable. I tried to send these back to caddex and it’s gunna cost me money to do so because they don’t send any shipping labels or QR codes in that process so the customer has to eat the cost of shipping. Caddex said try sending through different carriers even though I did that. So now I’m out of 450$ and Id have to spend another 200$+ for shipping to send them back to China from America. Trash product and trash customer service from my experience.
You shouldn't have to send them back to China! They should have some dealer here that can take the return for them. Did you buy them from China? If so, I highly suggest that you never do that and ALWAYS buy from a reputable USA dealer for this exact reason. With the dollar being so much stronger than years ago, I used to buy from Banggood because they saved us quite a bit over USA dealers, but now a days USA dealers are cheaper than China. Plus, they stand behind their products they sell so you don't have to send stuff to China. Have you checked on the exact shipping cost? Because that's a very small box that goggles come in and I've never shipped to China before because I don't buy high ticket or known unreliable products, like Walksnail goggles, from China, but I'd think with the box being so small and the weight being so little it wouldn't cost all that much to ship them to China. BEWARE: If you use USPS and they lose them or damage them THEY WILL NEVER, EVER PAY FOR THEM when you file a claim! Even if you buy the Best insurance from them, THEY WILL NOT PAY! I know...I have been shipping products for around 2 decades and ALL - EVERY SINGLE ONE - of my dealers and wholesalers REFUSE to ship via USPS because they've been burned every single time by USPS from them not covering claims. They're the ones that warned me to never ship ANYTHING of any value with USPS. If you do, and they lose or damage the item, you're out for sure. Great for trinkets and low cost stuff, but anything of value - DON'T EVER USE USPS. This is a fact and I am not exaggerating! Those wholesalers, etc. have never had a single claim paid ever! They've argued with them and tried and tried and never got paid. Just don't do it. Even when shipping somewhere in the USA, like the dealers and wholesalers do, don't use USPS except for very low value, hard to damage items. They told me the ONLY thing they'll ship with USPS is the gravel for the bottom of aquariums! Low cost and impossible to break! Lol USPS has always been a flaming shi% show! A terribly run company!!! Just use Fedex and UPS, even if they want 4 times the shipped charge. Do it! At least they are a reputable company and will pay their claims when they damaged or lost a package. Buy insurance, of course. But you are safe with those two. Hope this helps. Figure out the size and weight and get an actual real quote... It'll be expensive but at least it won't be a complete loss. Good luck. Buy DJI from a USA dealer and never have a single problem. Seriously... Bardwell himself has said many times he can't remember hearing about any issues at all from DJI products. Literally ultra reliable and durable. I agree. I've never had a single problem, even minor. Myself, I've heard enough, that I'll never, ever buy a Walksnail product no matter how good the future products are said to be. Just too flaky and unfinished when you buy it.
For me, the main issue is the lack of updates for their VTX Moonlight, which has numerous problems (automatic white balance that just doesn't work, no log options, bugs, and poor range and penetration) The majority of these problems are easy to fix, but they just haven't been fix which prevents these products from being used on professional shoots for me
@@derstanni but when you fly behind some trees, you get only 20 meters. The Moonlight was released five months ago, and there are many issues with simple things to fix, like autoexposure or automatic white balance but nothing is done
Never buying another one of their products. Not even going to sell my gear so someone else can suffer with it lol. What a crappy business model. They're liars.
Between the overheating, fogging lenses, failing and needing repairs, and promised features still not seeing the light of day, etc, etc, etc. These Walksnail X goggles barely, if at all, seem ready to be marketed as a complete and solid product! Even 8 Months After Release!!! Same thing happened with the original model of goggles Fatshark had their version of. Such a shame Caddx is in such a hurry to release literally incomplete products FOR US CONSUMERS TO TROUBLE SHOOT FOR THEM! Maybe they should merge with Beta FPV! 😂😢 I like to buy finished, actually working, and polished products not PROJECTS sold as complete products! Not for me. 👎🙄 I feel for the people that bought this CRAP! 😢
Goggles were sent out for repair late April, delivered May 10th, was told repair process is 2-3 weeks after receipt of the item, June 29th, still no info. Definitely enjoying my Goggles X that I was able to use 3 times. Glad I have mostly analog and HDZ stuff installed.
Do you know it's nearly impossible to find hdz stuff second hand? Especially the goggles people just don't sell their hdz stuff any more it would seem
@@elxero2189 yeah seems like people who buy HDZ lately are committed to it. I have batch 1 and 2 goggles and have not had issues with either set. Only had issues with analog once which was resolved with firmware updates. They seem quick to respond to issues when they come up as well. I have 3 backup freestyle V2s that I was expecting to need to use but haven’t needed to replace anything. I have a TanQ frame running HDZ that I took out in a blizzard and it still works flawlessly.
@@elxero2189 you have to buy it to sell it second hand homie 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think the real reason is because they only have a market share of 10% or maybe less, there's just not a lot of people who own them so there's not many for sale used. Plus, they are so expensive ... way, Way more than any other goggle, that once people finally saved up to buy them they didn't want to take a loss by selling them used... And they took so long to actual get them in hand!
It's simply too bad the penetration and flying distance you can get "close to the ground" is so damn poor! It's maybe 30m before the snow starts to overwhelm them. Especially with any objects in-between you and the drone.
Good ole Analog2! ... So close to the performance of "top quality" Analog, but typically over $900+ to get up and flying. 😢😮🤷
Definitely THE WORST VALUE in the history of FPV! Where else do you spend soooo much and just get a tiny little improvement over plain old Analog FPV performance! 💯🤦
@@420247paul...Exactly! And most people see that the improvements garnered are very slight over "Top Quality" Analog gear. You pay a T O N and you get a smidgen! Lol
Other than the zipper failing on the case my goggles have been great, I've had them since December. I can't wait for the GM Series gimbals with head-tracking particularly the GM2 and GM3 from Caddex!
lol the zipper on my case tore up the fabric I agree though, mine have been great otherwise
jfc the zipper on this case is definitely abhorrent, not surprised other people are having the same issue
going to have to think of some buckle-contraption to keep my goggles X case closed
@@Quad_Plex Hey, I used a very simple nylon belt that has a plastic buckle on it to keep mine closed.
Really glad this video was created. I have tried to keep the Zoom feature alive by mentioning it on the facebook group, sadly most would rather give caddx yet another break on failed promises. Instead caddx seem more focused on releasing even more half finished products.
The only honest review of this nugget.
I am always appetitive of the thorough work you do as well as the follow-up which to me is very important. I use Walksnail, however I will no use anything that is newly released. I wait for the major issues to be worked out and then I make my decision based on what the product does and not what is promised to do. Thanks again sir, your work is rock solid each and every time💪
You should be ready to buy by about a year from now then! Lol
Learned a new word today lmao 🤣 thanks
Thank you Ian, I'm glad I stayed with my "Fat Shark Dominator Avatar HD".
You mean 'the war machine'? 😉
@@nielsB_FPV oh yes oh shit haha gotta burn it now lol! You have a knife?
Heyy, great video. Just so you know, the january batch doesn't have the latest heatsink, this one had grounding issues
Mine has the newes version of the heatsink and I was flying today for one hour in 32°C (90° F), standing in the shadow. No overheating issues. Thanks for the video.
Routing of the antenna cables is also different now.
I got mine in May and they don’t have the new heatsink either.
@@MrDiMaggio5 then you didn't get one from the latest batchs of goggles but from older batchs like the january one
@@adl_fpvactually after watching this video I dug out the box and the manufacturing date is 4/24
I got a set with the new heart sink, it's been working great for the past 5 months. I had to add tape to partially cover the left lens vent to keep the right side from fogging. But no overheating issues, I run it for hours at a time in the Sim and it's been holding up flying in 100 degree heat. Caddx as a company are a bit frustrating for sure, I used to have a tarsier camera and I had to just stop using it because the software quit working. The software itself was half baked and from a third party. They need to work on their software side of things.
I feel bad for the people that got suckered into buying a chitty pair of goggles. Do better Caddex
Agreed! Totally ripped off with all the problems and unfulfilled promises! 💸💸💸 Fly away money! 😢
I bought these goggles in October, I still have no problems with them, I only replaced the radiator.
Thanks for all the info, Ian! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I'm quite happy with this goggles. I have just one issue. The right lens turns foggy after some seconds. And this is annoying
Same. My only complaint. I have original batch
@@velkrofpv6654 My batch in 01/2024
Get a piece of tape and partially cover the left vent next to the left lens, it forces more air thru the right side and prevents fogging
@@bren42069 I have to try, Thanks
I had to buy the V1's because my first set of goggles died. They replaced it.
Second set needed a new board which they sent me and I replaced.
Worked great for a couple weeks and now the buttons no longer work including the button to bind quads and start a firmware update.
They think the button board has either died or the wires leading to the board have come loose.
Haven't had time to open it up to check but how does that even happen.
Completely unhappy with Caddx.
I use DJI but wanted an alternate system as well. Would you recommend HDZero or Walksnail?
That much thermal compound is going to hold heat... I was just looking to get into fpv. This looks very unrefined, I like putting stuff together and troubleshooting. The issue is time, I think I need something that just works and is complete.
To avoid having poor reception, do not tighten the screws of the new heatsink too hard, the PCB will be curved and will work less well (orange channel).
the PCB must be unstressed.
The old heatsink was soft and bent.
Its amazing, whilst my vrx units fan is horribly loud ,i always have good green bars and run my analog in this heatwave
Looking into buying a pair of these as someone just getting into FPV. It being on-sale for under $400 is a pretty tempting offer but, maybe it would be better to get something cheaper and purely analog to save some money. Ugh... wish all these goggles weren't so damn expensive.
Yeah... My second set, the first was replaced for near constant black screens in January with a set with the heat sink improvements that arrived mid February, over the last couple weeks has been getting worse and worse to the point where if I plug them in before the aircraft, they will overheat and show a black screen before I plug in the craft and go fly. On top of that there's been no firmware in months with any fixes, new features, nothing. We haven't even seen anything for the moonlight that would make it dramatically better like any color modes that it already has as an available feature... with 1 option.
To me, it feels like they are putting 100% into whatever this new RF board they said was coming when they announced the Goggles X, probably giving all of us with current "beta" hardware the middle finger to buy the "improved" version.
so they fixed your goggles and the repaired get the same issue again?
@@eriksen7022 Now months later during the summer here it appears so. They asked me to clean up the thermal paste under the heat sink on top and see if it persists. My set does have the black finned heatsink.
@@Foremi i completely replaced all the thermal paste, cleaned it up but this didnt help. i just sent them away, i hope they can fix them quickly
my primary function will be hdmi in.. rc2 supports hdmi out tested on hd tvs looks great...then i can use them w my pc and ps5 as well..and my phone.... as well as when i buy my racing drone and whoop... i can use with the walkingsnail ...ive looked at alot of goggles alot dont support 1080p 60 fps... 90 fps...30...100...but no 60 smh....so im glad to hear overheatinhg has been resolved i will be picking up a pair...awesome review!!!
Serious question here. Would I be better off with the Walksnail VRX for my HDzero goggles, than purchasing these goggle X? I primarily fly whoops and micros, all analog at this point. I do worry about the additional latency introduced when using the VRX over the goggles X themselves.
Tbh yes in that case. Save the money and go that route. No major reason not to
Bardwell said in his review that the latency of the VRX was between 50 and 60ms. Too much for me, but maybe ok for you?
Why buy those Project Goggles when you can buy something that works for way less money. I'd get the DJI Integra goggles for $349 everywhere in the USA that sells them.
Far superior performance, penetration, distance you can fly close to the ground with great clarity, reliability, durability, etc, etc, etc. And that's all with the Vista/Link, and even more so with 03.
I fly 2" and 85mm whoops all the time with great ease and fun!
Simply a FAR SUPERIOR product without all the unfinished bullshi%! A and unfulfilled promises! ...For less money, and with way better actual performance! 😎👍
@@KOrnhOliO1 it’s non 50-60ms on the HDZero giggles in low latency mode. I have charts showing the latency is much lower than that.
@@KOrnhOliO1 I'm a hobbyist, I enjoy building, tinkering, and flying. I want to buy into products which support that. DJI while perhaps the king of digital systems, isn't really that sort of company (from what I've seen).
One of the reasons I like analog, is the price is more respectable, there are many choices of parts (some come with stickers), the latency is good. I hope digital fpv can one day achieve what analog does (at least in two of those areas).
@@MadRC Thanks for your response (I've watched your videos on the topic those from others). Regardless, without the VRX and goggles in hand its tough to make a call without the feeling, and even more so knowing there is hidden latency there.
All in all, as I've said in a comment above. I'm in this hobby for the hobby aspect as much as I am in it for flying. Tinkering, choosing for a range of parts, stickers, fixing broken things, its all important to me.
All FPV Googles cost to much. As much as DJI are also expensive they are quality and cutting edge tech.
I'm happy with analogy but what Fatsnark and Snorka want for their old tech is silly.
The viewfinder in my canon camera which is old, is way better than any FPV analog goggles.
In Australia can pick up some v1 dji goggles for around $200-250 aud . The v1 and a vista outshines the headaches it seems these other options seem to give .
@@mx118racer For sure! But, I'd look for the V2 goggles with the newer send and receive technology. They are compatible with the 03 VTX... THE VERY BEST... Where the V1 goggles aren't.
They do analog great too with the URUAV metal analog adapter. Cheap and great!
Thanks Ian you're a master at work!
i saw a post they have upgraded the head tracking.
Where are the dji haters now. Seems that walksnail isnt working great. Surely skydio will lobby for new goggles now 😆
Heard apple is going to be made in usa soon after the elections too.
Damn it. Cant you just give dji and the chinese some credit for hard work and solid products? Still wish WS to succeed too.
Waiting for the teased range upgrade, and I'd rather not have something that's needed piles of ghetto fixes. This model has scared me off big time.
Sounds like lots of things that shouldn't have to be but very likely could be fixed by the community if they jailbroke the goggles and opened up the features.
My goggles x no overheating issue or lens issue, but i can't fly over 800m in LOS condition. Fly over 30meters I lost 1 bar signal on 1200mw power.
Same here, range and penetration sucks compared to my DJI stuff.
Thanks for fine summary! BTW is built- in head- tracking working yet?
Not at this time. It’s not even been seen working with the new gimbals.
Are you saying that DJI actually listens to their customers more than Caddx?
Yes
@@bryanfpv Holy retro reply Batman!
Well nothing new becaus it mostly work as it is... the gimbals just released does shows they still improves and expand product wise. (Actually im more positive than negative they have not released a new system not compatible with what I have today. Still rocking the original avatars...) so please what ever comes out next it must be compatible with existing hardware....
I was expecting a Goggle L video from you once it came out. Didnt you get a review sample?
I feel like I wasted $450 buying these. I have gotten 2 flights on my goggles X since I bought them 6 months ago. Had overheating issues from the get go, and would only boot up 1 out of 10 times. Contacted support, was instructed to order the updated heat sink. I ordered it, got it a month later. Finally got it installed (which btw is probably not something that a newer fpv pilot should be getting into. Just my opinion.. Easy to damage the ribbon cable or one of the 5 ufl's)
Installed the new heat sink per the Walksnail Wiki. I am on the newest stable firmware, 37.42.5 iirc. Image looks good from an Avatar unit, but within 5-10 min my image in the goggles are solid pink again.
I ended up buying used Avatar V1 goggles so I could still fly walksnail while getting my goggles X sorted out. I really want this to work, so I can fly micros, and so I am not stuck flying only DJI. At this pace, the goggles X have soured me. I would have preferred to just get a replacement set, or send them in to have the work done. I feel like I shouldn't have to be elbow deep in new goggles.😅
I’ve had the same issue but only with signal being so bad that I drop connection directly los like 50ft away
Man that sucks, I hate to hear this. I jumped on the V1 CADDX version goggles and really like them. I am glad I hesitated to update to the X, lets hope the next release is better. I would assume they would have to be new as they will be adding support for the new Gimbals.
Bummer Bro! I fly my 60g 85mm whoop, similar to a Pavo Pico with a naked Vista in it, and it flies great. I also built a 75mm whoop that's 35g, but the sweet spot seems to be 2" props minimum. The 75mm is too fragile. But, micros are possible with DJI and they fly really nice too! Best thing is they have the reliability and durability of DJI. Unsurpassed in quality and performance, FOR SURE!!!
People need to not lean on the manufacturers to build low weight, but durable micros for DJI. NONE of the BNF's are even close to the low weight you can build yourself! The manufacturers just don't get how to build to low weight, but still make it durable.
Easy to build with a Vista/ Link, with just 4 wires. A hot, a ground, and an in and out for a Uart! Easy peasy! Love it, and no bullshit like with Walksnail and no super expensive HDZero with it's piss poor performance and penetration!
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Anyone happy with their Goggles X want to comment? I really want to get some so i can fly whoops and see better but holy crap there are a lot of negative comments here and making me rethink getting them.
does build 12/23 have the new heat sink?
the heat sink shown is not the current version, but should already be included in a 12/23 build. The new heat sink is narrower so as not to cover the antenna terminals and prevent interference.
Wifi will lead to what dji is getting from elsie s. Pull the wifi chip maybe to reduce heat
I got mine recently from RR, i originally got the fat sharks but they failed like those returned ones ian fixed, so rr let me upgrade to these! mine has the production date of april 2024, they didn't have the WiFi coax run under the heatsink like how ian ran his, the only issue i have is that my right lens fogs up very easily, I'd been thinking about doing a mod and putting a fan in the top, after seeing this video showing out the air flows across, the I'm definitely doing the fan modification!!! I really wish somebody would make a better 3d print for an analog module for these!!! One that you can add the bayck cooeye DVR that records the 60fps...
Where the coax is shouldn't matter but where the whip sits should. I'd drill a hole and poke it out the top. 🤫
Just changed to digital with the goggles x. What system would you recommend for the Pavo Pico v2? Getting mixed answers. ✌🏴
o3
O3
WS.
Get a Walksnail HD Pro package and then take the heat sync off the VTX (as it comes with the Nano). I did this after seeing Chris Rosser mention it…
You'll only be able to record 1080p60fps with the DVR instead of 4k, but it's $150 instead of almost $300 for a naked o3. You need to shave every gram of weight when you do small digital builds…
Also, the Walksnail pro HD camera is FAR better in low light, which helps for a drone you could potentially fly inside.
I'm not a fanboy, so don't think that-I build my 5" with DJI o3, but it's a heavy VTX…
If you want to do o3, Flywoo sells a naked o3 unit.
03, but if you don't care about 4k video from a small craft like that, just get a Vista/Link and lighten it up for even better flight performance. They're easy to make naked, which lowers the weight even more! I have an 85mm whoop I built with the best Vista and it weighs only 60 grams! Way, WAY less than any Pavo you've seen reviewed or for sale. Easy install too! Just a few minutes...💯😎🤘
Any test of latency on the analog in port? Heard a new firmware improved it but haven't actually seen any testing.
Still terrible.
Hi. Did you analyze issue with walksnail Moonlight unit? I was facing today some strange problem: my unit didn’t connect to googles and only 1 green led was on . I’ve found the solution on FB, it was related to screws.
My goggles were made 2024/04 (April), so there have been more revisions..
my goggles x have a weird problem: they only turn on ONCE per day, after that they will always start with a black screen, no button responses. Ill send them back to caddx for repair
sounds like proximity Sensor
@@plasmachicken nope disabled it, recalibrated it. noting worked. I sent the back to caddx for repair
Two months ago Avatar module burned out after a few uses and 30 seconds of flying. They said to send it to China for repair, I sent it to them, in the end they said it is not repairable and there is no warranty because the warranty period is over (although they didn't say anything about it after I sent them the serial number of the device). They said they could give me a discount on a new unit, so I bought a new unit with a discount. The other day I started it up and it burned up after 30 seconds of flight, burning the ESC at the same time. I do not advise anyone to contact this company, the quality of equipment is low, as well as the quality of support.
Thanks
It seems that until DJI competitors get serious about quality and capabilities, the gulf between DJI and their competitors will widen. It is suicide for a company to make promises and not deliver on those promises, especially turning out shoddily designed hardware. This is disappointing. I was hoping this was going to be the DJI head turner.
A very disappointing digital system on multiple levels in my opinion.
Exactly! Now I hear many are having problems with their Moonlight system! What product has Caddx released in the Walksnail system that HASN'T HAD MULTIPLE PROBLEMS, and promises not fulfilled?
Z E R O !
Radio Shack used to make electronic kits.
You'd build them yourself. This X system seems like a "PROJECT" I grew out of when I turned 15 years old!
It's just like Beta FPV gear. You buy it and trouble shoot it for the manufacturer! Sheesh!
No way it's for me! Lol 💯👎🤬
Would be really nice to support a competitor of DJI, to prevent monopoly. But sorry, just for the sake of not buying DJI, all the hassle? Yes, O3 OSD is a bit shitty, especially for Arduplane Pilots. But still better than that. No overheating, crystal clear image, 20km range with two mid sized patch Antennas.
Caddx said August 2024
So actually a polished and complete product then by around March 2026 ! 🤣
Caddx Is A Joke! And a bad one at that! 😰🤬
According to Caddx, that's not the right heatsink. I'm waiting for a new one, shorter.
"The idea of this" - We get it bro
I avoided all these problems and headaches by flying the SIM on a $15 1080p monitor from Goodwill.
It was a better flying experience than this facehugger jww nk could ever hope to provide.
I couldn't deal with the issues. I sold them and switched to dji.
It's nice that there is competition.
Unfortunately Caddx isn't really coming out with even near finished products, it seems more like, give them something new, they will buy it anyway.
They should be ashamed about the Google X
And that cable to connect the parts of the moonlight VTX sorry that's poor product design and being to cheap to change it to be perfect, or even be good.
I'm disappointed
Only thing which keeps me with walksnail is the 1S VTX cause it's light and unfortunately DJI won't come with something like that.
HDZero was also fine but to expensive to keep it.
I hope there will be someday a better solution
Signal issues still suck and aren’t flyable. I tried to send these back to caddex and it’s gunna cost me money to do so because they don’t send any shipping labels or QR codes in that process so the customer has to eat the cost of shipping. Caddex said try sending through different carriers even though I did that. So now I’m out of 450$ and Id have to spend another 200$+ for shipping to send them back to China from America. Trash product and trash customer service from my experience.
$200+ for shipping???
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From EU shipping could be about 140euro, so I sold them, I had too many issues.
You shouldn't have to send them back to China! They should have some dealer here that can take the return for them. Did you buy them from China? If so, I highly suggest that you never do that and ALWAYS buy from a reputable USA dealer for this exact reason. With the dollar being so much stronger than years ago, I used to buy from Banggood because they saved us quite a bit over USA dealers, but now a days USA dealers are cheaper than China. Plus, they stand behind their products they sell so you don't have to send stuff to China.
Have you checked on the exact shipping cost? Because that's a very small box that goggles come in and I've never shipped to China before because I don't buy high ticket or known unreliable products, like Walksnail goggles, from China, but I'd think with the box being so small and the weight being so little it wouldn't cost all that much to ship them to China.
BEWARE:
If you use USPS and they lose them or damage them THEY WILL NEVER, EVER PAY FOR THEM when you file a claim! Even if you buy the Best insurance from them, THEY WILL NOT PAY!
I know...I have been shipping products for around 2 decades and ALL - EVERY SINGLE ONE - of my dealers and wholesalers REFUSE to ship via USPS because they've been burned every single time by USPS from them not covering claims. They're the ones that warned me to never ship ANYTHING of any value with USPS. If you do, and they lose or damage the item, you're out for sure. Great for trinkets and low cost stuff, but anything of value - DON'T EVER USE USPS.
This is a fact and I am not exaggerating!
Those wholesalers, etc. have never had a single claim paid ever! They've argued with them and tried and tried and never got paid. Just don't do it. Even when shipping somewhere in the USA, like the dealers and wholesalers do, don't use USPS except for very low value, hard to damage items. They told me the ONLY thing they'll ship with USPS is the gravel for the bottom of aquariums! Low cost and impossible to break! Lol
USPS has always been a flaming shi% show! A terribly run company!!!
Just use Fedex and UPS, even if they want 4 times the shipped charge. Do it! At least they are a reputable company and will pay their claims when they damaged or lost a package. Buy insurance, of course. But you are safe with those two.
Hope this helps. Figure out the size and weight and get an actual real quote... It'll be expensive but at least it won't be a complete loss.
Good luck.
Buy DJI from a USA dealer and never have a single problem. Seriously... Bardwell himself has said many times he can't remember hearing about any issues at all from DJI products. Literally ultra reliable and durable. I agree. I've never had a single problem, even minor.
Myself, I've heard enough, that I'll never, ever buy a Walksnail product no matter how good the future products are said to be. Just too flaky and unfinished when you buy it.
For me, the main issue is the lack of updates for their VTX Moonlight, which has numerous problems (automatic white balance that just doesn't work, no log options, bugs, and poor range and penetration)
The majority of these problems are easy to fix, but they just haven't been fix which prevents these products from being used on professional shoots for me
Im using the Moonlight in my 7inch Long Range and can fly over 8km away.
@@derstanni but when you fly behind some trees, you get only 20 meters. The Moonlight was released five months ago, and there are many issues with simple things to fix, like autoexposure or automatic white balance but nothing is done
I agree with Mads Tech; new products are released, and then they are forgotten.
I feel ripped off to some degree
Vtx or cameras don't have audio
Never buying another one of their products. Not even going to sell my gear so someone else can suffer with it lol. What a crappy business model. They're liars.
Gyro works on the L..
Between the overheating, fogging lenses, failing and needing repairs, and promised features still not seeing the light of day, etc, etc, etc. These Walksnail X goggles barely, if at all, seem ready to be marketed as a complete and solid product! Even 8 Months After Release!!! Same thing happened with the original model of goggles Fatshark had their version of.
Such a shame Caddx is in such a hurry to release literally incomplete products FOR US CONSUMERS TO TROUBLE SHOOT FOR THEM!
Maybe they should merge with Beta FPV! 😂😢
I like to buy finished, actually working, and polished products not PROJECTS sold as complete products!
Not for me.
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I feel for the people that bought this CRAP! 😢