I’m not sure why people get bent out of shape when Billy says that Wanda is not his mom. He doesn’t remember anything of his time in Westview. He’s been raised for the last three years by Rebecca Kaplan. That’s who he considers his ‘mom’.
@ he now knows that he is Wanda’s son, but there’s a difference between knowing somebody is your mother, and considering them your mom. Too difficult concept?
This was such a beautiful ending to this show. The final episode recontextualizes the entire ballad and the journey on the road in such a perfect way and I respect the show so much for executing properly and even attempting to go this route at all
Agatha doesn't want to see Nicky because she is ashamed, she used his ballad to murder witches for centuries. Episode 5 when Nicky tells her to stop (draining Alice), Agatha is reminded how her son could potentially react if they meet in the afterlife.
Regarding your comment about them leaving the door open and to Salem Seven following them down, just to clarify: they didn't leave the initial door open, but when they summoned Rio to Road, it created a door. It's that second opening that allowed the Seven an entry point, because it wasn't sealed after Rio's arrival.
Billy says he's sure Nikky will forgive Agatha for whatever she did. What Billy doesn't know is agatha is a mass serial killer of witches. Agatha used the nursery rhymes her and Nikky sung together and turned them into a siren's call to lure witches to their death for 200+ years
Showrunner Jac Schaeffer has said she DID write a bunch of potential midcredit scenes for the finale, but Marvel apparently shot them all down so she was finally like 'Well okay I guess we're not doing one then'
Billy: shes NOT my mom. I HAVE a mom. Me having flashbacks to Anakin in attack of the clones throwing a temper tantrum about obi being his father figure :/ These teen boys and their angst is...a little much
I think the "in-universe" / inside the story answer for why Lilia had to die is the same as the out of universe one you gave. As viewers we need the road to be seen to be genuinely dangerous. In universe, for all magic is often sparkly light beams in Marvel, it still needs to be "magical/mystical" and I think that tends to result in magic inside fictional worlds behaving almost like it's trying to make it's world behave like a story. Laws of physics stuff (like being hit with a big sword) is mechanical but for magic to feel magical it has to have that sort of arbitrary/human/metaphorical way of thinking. I think that's arguably the difference that makes magic magic rather than just very fancy technology. I mean that said I hate unfair endings for characters so this comment is partly cope from me!
To he fair to SOME male fans, these multiple storylines is frustrating to many fans. I understand why some fans especially male fans get upset when they want to see where Shang Chi's story leads or The Eternals or Spiderman's but then it takes a long time to get to + some films or shows fans especially male fans were looking forward to disappointed them so it becomes disappointing to get a show or film that feels like it's not related to a storyline you want. Wanda fans i feel are experiencing this too especially a lot of female wanda fans. Multiverse of Madness disappointed a lot of fans and they are still waiting for her return
This show was awesome and I'm glad because I was one of those people who thought this show was pointless since it was about a side character from the comics, and just going to be a sloppy mess of garbage, but boy did they shut me up and slap me with a white witch glove. I'm happy it did very well, now I'm waiting for a follow-up; this proves that Marvel when they want and put an effort on it, they can make a show or movie about anyone. Great reaction as always, keep up the good work!!
@@LOMAS-xt3th I was also skeptical when they announced it but it completely blew me away. And yes, they could make everything have the same quality as this show, don’t know why they don’t 🙃
@@AbbyJaneReactsTotally, this was the surprise of the year for me. Marvel has been in a rough spot this last two years, but after everything they've released this year, I'm very hopeful for the future.
So not sure if it’s confirmed, but I believe Agatha killing witches initially (offering bodies to Rio) is what kept Nicky alive. The moment Nicky didn’t want to go through with a plan is when Rio came for him
Then again, Agatha told Nicky that her magic couldn't heal or protect him, and she didn't know how much time they'd have, which seems to imply the magic isn't sustaining him. We also saw Nicky coughing at that last con job in full view of Agatha. If she believed killing witches was keeping him alive, you'd think that would have made her exceedingly determined to do it that day.
@@marauderdz Well, I didn’t say Magic kept him alive, Death did. Agatha even said killing witches was for survival. If Death can delay him dying at birth from a plea, then she can do it as Agatha offers bodies. And I don’t think Agatha would have tried to keep the con going instead of checking on Nicky to make sure he was okay.
Lillia seeing her fall beforehand knew she had to make that choice and go like that and her arc ends like that I felt lillia's death much better than Alice's About episode 7 being the best out of 9 agreed with the screenplay being so good cause of the time slipping or seeing like Loki. but definitely not the best I agree ppl bit overhyping it but yeah it was great episode nonetheless was successful in attaching us to Lillia
I too was trying so hard to not to see any thumbnail on youtube lol I keep putting all Marvel reporting channels to not interested until I watched them cause thumbnails and titles really give out a lot sometimes
if jen disappeared from the road and reappeared outside westview after she regain her power...shouldn't Lillia did the same when she finally got to understand her power and purpose before she was killed by the knives?
@@jakobjourdane1881 I wasn’t bashing them! Like I would if I could it’s just frustrating cause UA-cam used to be safe(ish) for spoilers but now it’s not haha
48:29 all of them are characters from the comics they are not Agatha All Along exclusive characters (well at least the witches i dont know about Sharon)
The way he said that Wanda wasn't his mom, like I don't care who you live with now or what dead body you possess, but you WOULDN'T exist if it wasn't for Wanda and the love she had for you. I know he doesn't understand or see it that way, but he needs to wake up and get it together lol cuz that's the kind of talk that shows you didn't deserve to be created in the first place 🙄
Billy doesn't remember anything not his life in Westview or his life as William and he has thought he was William for the past three years so Rebecca is the only mom he remembers. He only just found out that day who he actually is so to him Wanda isn't his mom not really because he doesn't remember her. I don't think it was a slight on Wanda I think he is still just confused on if he is actually Billy (His question to Lilia in her trial kind of hinted that he still doesn't fully know if he is Billy or William.) I think it will just take time for him to figure it out and accept it.
Even if he had all his memories with Wanda, which he doesn’t, it would only add up to a matter of days with her. On the other hand he’s had 3 years of Mrs. Caplan as his mother. Wanda created him, but Rebecca Caplan IS his Mom.
How do you feel that yhe Salem 7 never killed anyone? I saw some reviewers say the Salem 7 were pointless and that the dangers of the trails was enough for the show since the salem 7 didnt actually harm anyone just were creepy. They were saying the salem 7 never should've been in the show. Which i understand but i did like them, they were nice and spooky characters rise the tension for me personally even if all they did was die
@@Thed538dhsk I agree with you. If they had had a bigger role than they would have been considered the villains when the focus was supposed to be on how Rio/Agatha and maybe even Billy were the ‘villains’ of the show
The 7 just being a looming threat to Agatha to push things along was important. Without the 7 Agatha likely just leaves Westview far behind and searches for how to reclaim her power at a more leisurely pace. The only reason Agatha goes along with Teen’s desire for the Road is because she needs to pull her old scam to try and get power quick to protect herself from the 7. Agatha knows if she doesn’t get power QUICK Rio’s going to have her permanently very soon. The show would be very different with the 7 chasing Agatha.
I think after no way home Fiegie gave up on trying to stop spoilers lol. Maybe too much on his plate to be able to keep spoilers away. Even the trailers were spoilers tho it's really bad. Endgame was never like this or even agents of shield and the Netflix daredevil.
I’m not sure why people get bent out of shape when Billy says that Wanda is not his mom. He doesn’t remember anything of his time in Westview. He’s been raised for the last three years by Rebecca Kaplan. That’s who he considers his ‘mom’.
And from Where does he think he has these powers? And he's still alive? Because of Rebecca Kaplan, of course
@ he now knows that he is Wanda’s son, but there’s a difference between knowing somebody is your mother, and considering them your mom. Too difficult concept?
@@jcs1025she may be his mother, but she isn't his mommy
This was such a beautiful ending to this show. The final episode recontextualizes the entire ballad and the journey on the road in such a perfect way and I respect the show so much for executing properly and even attempting to go this route at all
@@coldflamebluedragon196 they did such a good job with the whole show! They need to be put in charge for some of the other projects
Agatha doesn't want to see Nicky because she is ashamed, she used his ballad to murder witches for centuries. Episode 5 when Nicky tells her to stop (draining Alice), Agatha is reminded how her son could potentially react if they meet in the afterlife.
Regarding your comment about them leaving the door open and to Salem Seven following them down, just to clarify: they didn't leave the initial door open, but when they summoned Rio to Road, it created a door. It's that second opening that allowed the Seven an entry point, because it wasn't sealed after Rio's arrival.
Billy says he's sure Nikky will forgive Agatha for whatever she did. What Billy doesn't know is agatha is a mass serial killer of witches. Agatha used the nursery rhymes her and Nikky sung together and turned them into a siren's call to lure witches to their death for 200+ years
So tragic ahhh but still love that they showed that and reminded us that she is still a villain! So glad they didn’t just redeem her!
THIS SHOW AHHHH IT IS SO GOOD! From beginning to end it was just so well written and made! Time to rewatch it! 😭💜
@@Diana-od6ek marvel really deserve their flowers for this one 🥹
Showrunner Jac Schaeffer has said she DID write a bunch of potential midcredit scenes for the finale, but Marvel apparently shot them all down so she was finally like 'Well okay I guess we're not doing one then'
Billy: shes NOT my mom. I HAVE a mom.
Me having flashbacks to Anakin in attack of the clones throwing a temper tantrum about obi being his father figure :/
These teen boys and their angst is...a little much
yayyyy was waiting for this! these last episodes were a treat!
One of the best marvel shows adaptations ever ❤
i watched the rest of your reactions to this series today! So I'm excited for this instalment 😁
@@RobertJW I really appreciate that 🥹
Another great reaction abby it's by far my best reaction channel ur brilliant 👍5k subscribers good for you
@@AdamJames-d5d thank you so much!
@AbbyJaneReacts your very welcome abby you deserve it hope you doing well
I think the "in-universe" / inside the story answer for why Lilia had to die is the same as the out of universe one you gave. As viewers we need the road to be seen to be genuinely dangerous. In universe, for all magic is often sparkly light beams in Marvel, it still needs to be "magical/mystical" and I think that tends to result in magic inside fictional worlds behaving almost like it's trying to make it's world behave like a story. Laws of physics stuff (like being hit with a big sword) is mechanical but for magic to feel magical it has to have that sort of arbitrary/human/metaphorical way of thinking. I think that's arguably the difference that makes magic magic rather than just very fancy technology.
I mean that said I hate unfair endings for characters so this comment is partly cope from me!
Thank you, Abby! 🧙♀ This series was such a joy.
@@auntvesuvi3872 it was! Thanks for watching 💖
@@AbbyJaneReacts You're so welcome. 🫂
Brilliant series love your reactions ❤ x
@@stesime1000 thank you ☺️
To he fair to SOME male fans, these multiple storylines is frustrating to many fans. I understand why some fans especially male fans get upset when they want to see where Shang Chi's story leads or The Eternals or Spiderman's but then it takes a long time to get to + some films or shows fans especially male fans were looking forward to disappointed them so it becomes disappointing to get a show or film that feels like it's not related to a storyline you want. Wanda fans i feel are experiencing this too especially a lot of female wanda fans. Multiverse of Madness disappointed a lot of fans and they are still waiting for her return
This show was awesome and I'm glad because I was one of those people who thought this show was pointless since it was about a side character from the comics, and just going to be a sloppy mess of garbage, but boy did they shut me up and slap me with a white witch glove. I'm happy it did very well, now I'm waiting for a follow-up; this proves that Marvel when they want and put an effort on it, they can make a show or movie about anyone. Great reaction as always, keep up the good work!!
@@LOMAS-xt3th I was also skeptical when they announced it but it completely blew me away. And yes, they could make everything have the same quality as this show, don’t know why they don’t 🙃
@@AbbyJaneReactsTotally, this was the surprise of the year for me. Marvel has been in a rough spot this last two years, but after everything they've released this year, I'm very hopeful for the future.
Wanda is mother. Always and forever. We stan the Scarlett Witch. Flourish 🪄 🙌🏾
@@Thed538dhsk period 💅🏻
I Think Tommy in that boy's body will appear in Visionquest the Vision series that's on the works
All of the witches in the coven were real characters in Marvel comics. Jennifer Kale was a supporting character in a lot of the Man-Thing comics
So not sure if it’s confirmed, but I believe Agatha killing witches initially (offering bodies to Rio) is what kept Nicky alive. The moment Nicky didn’t want to go through with a plan is when Rio came for him
@@redapetfm2162 that makes a lot of sense!
Then again, Agatha told Nicky that her magic couldn't heal or protect him, and she didn't know how much time they'd have, which seems to imply the magic isn't sustaining him. We also saw Nicky coughing at that last con job in full view of Agatha. If she believed killing witches was keeping him alive, you'd think that would have made her exceedingly determined to do it that day.
@@marauderdz Well, I didn’t say Magic kept him alive, Death did. Agatha even said killing witches was for survival. If Death can delay him dying at birth from a plea, then she can do it as Agatha offers bodies. And I don’t think Agatha would have tried to keep the con going instead of checking on Nicky to make sure he was okay.
Jennifer Kale is a character in the comics and we will hopefully have more of her.
Is this first time or re upload?
@@Vivan_aru first time
Love the nails!
@@NorwayAandM thank you 😊
Lillia seeing her fall beforehand knew she had to make that choice and go like that and her arc ends like that I felt lillia's death much better than Alice's
About episode 7 being the best out of 9 agreed with the screenplay being so good cause of the time slipping or seeing like Loki. but definitely not the best I agree ppl bit overhyping it but yeah it was great episode nonetheless was successful in attaching us to Lillia
What time slipping?
The head writer and main director ot this show is nsmed Jac Shaffer and she also wrote the Black Widow film as well as obviously Wandavision
Love your fashion!
@@frankducky6130 thank you!
I too was trying so hard to not to see any thumbnail on youtube lol I keep putting all Marvel reporting channels to not interested until I watched them cause thumbnails and titles really give out a lot sometimes
Billy has 2 moms now💜❤
I really really wish they could show more stories between Agatha and Rio. We got to know nothing 😭
@@lu2978 literally! I need to know how they met and how they got together 😭
Agreed! I honestly didn’t miss Rio much, the season tied up nicely, but yeah it would have been nice to have seen a few more scenes of them
if jen disappeared from the road and reappeared outside westview after she regain her power...shouldn't Lillia did the same when she finally got to understand her power and purpose before she was killed by the knives?
Lilia never got to complete the last trial. The Road, as Billy interpreted it, was as much about the physical journey as the spiritual one.
@@marauderdz i had hope when Rio only collected Alice soul and and skip lillia's scene...😭😭😭
I love the ppl who post right after sorry for the difference of opinion but I also like ur content idkk
@@jakobjourdane1881 I wasn’t bashing them! Like I would if I could it’s just frustrating cause UA-cam used to be safe(ish) for spoilers but now it’s not haha
@@AbbyJaneReacts yah especially w shorts it’s giving tiktok I get u
48:29 all of them are characters from the comics they are not Agatha All Along exclusive characters (well at least the witches i dont know about Sharon)
The way he said that Wanda wasn't his mom, like I don't care who you live with now or what dead body you possess, but you WOULDN'T exist if it wasn't for Wanda and the love she had for you. I know he doesn't understand or see it that way, but he needs to wake up and get it together lol cuz that's the kind of talk that shows you didn't deserve to be created in the first place 🙄
Billy doesn't remember anything not his life in Westview or his life as William and he has thought he was William for the past three years so Rebecca is the only mom he remembers. He only just found out that day who he actually is so to him Wanda isn't his mom not really because he doesn't remember her. I don't think it was a slight on Wanda I think he is still just confused on if he is actually Billy (His question to Lilia in her trial kind of hinted that he still doesn't fully know if he is Billy or William.) I think it will just take time for him to figure it out and accept it.
I mean, you can't really argue the semantics when it comes to an emotional response. He has more memories with a mother who isn't Wanda
Even if he had all his memories with Wanda, which he doesn’t, it would only add up to a matter of days with her. On the other hand he’s had 3 years of Mrs. Caplan as his mother. Wanda created him, but Rebecca Caplan IS his Mom.
How do you feel that yhe Salem 7 never killed anyone? I saw some reviewers say the Salem 7 were pointless and that the dangers of the trails was enough for the show since the salem 7 didnt actually harm anyone just were creepy. They were saying the salem 7 never should've been in the show. Which i understand but i did like them, they were nice and spooky characters rise the tension for me personally even if all they did was die
@@Thed538dhsk I agree with you. If they had had a bigger role than they would have been considered the villains when the focus was supposed to be on how Rio/Agatha and maybe even Billy were the ‘villains’ of the show
The 7 just being a looming threat to Agatha to push things along was important. Without the 7 Agatha likely just leaves Westview far behind and searches for how to reclaim her power at a more leisurely pace. The only reason Agatha goes along with Teen’s desire for the Road is because she needs to pull her old scam to try and get power quick to protect herself from the 7. Agatha knows if she doesn’t get power QUICK Rio’s going to have her permanently very soon. The show would be very different with the 7 chasing Agatha.
I think after no way home Fiegie gave up on trying to stop spoilers lol. Maybe too much on his plate to be able to keep spoilers away. Even the trailers were spoilers tho it's really bad. Endgame was never like this or even agents of shield and the Netflix daredevil.
@@Thed538dhsk yeah I think they’ve fully embraced it and even use it as part of their marketing 🙄😂