well for romans bathing was also a social thing, quite possibly it was also a social thing a place to make deals and strengthen social bonds while bathing.
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According to most Ancient History text books which are prescribed in Indian schools, the powerful dude with horned helmet is 'Pashupati', an incarnation of Hindu god 'Shiva'. 'Pashu' means animal and 'pati' means master or lord. So basically 'Lord of animals'. PS: Love Crash Course. :)
The stamp may depicts lord shiva in yoga asana (this yoga asana is taught in india as "PADMAASANA" The animals usually depicts the devine bond living peacefully together As lord shiva is considered creator of universe ,he is also cosidered lord of animals as he is some times reffered as Pashupati nath "Pashu" means animal and "Nath" means lord There is a temple in india /Nepal called "pashupati Nath" temple dedicated to lord shiva Shiva is considered the first YOGI inventor of yoga The posture on the stamp may be a yoga posture which we practice for improving Chakra U can also see shiva in famous NATRAJ posture , dancing for creation of universe widely discussed and known in HINDUISM text and india and rest of the world
when you Look at non-Politicized facts we are actually living in the Best time to be alive. (in western civilization) We have almost constant Access to running water, Near equal sexual, racial, and religious equality. we even have constant access to mass of human information Making self education possible. Personal freedoms are flourishing and modern Medicine is saving Billions of lives world wide! Even with the upcoming american election and Britain leaving the European union, society has checks and balances to stop tyrants or total economic collapse. I dare you Name one time it would be better to be alive!
I think the Indus were the first human civilization that grasped the idea of something beyond the material. I think it was a nation of philosophers and inventors who created a intellectual meritocracy. I think it was the first strive towards the most ideal nation as seen with the lack of emphasis on power (Less importance on temples and palaces) and emphasis of exchanging ideas and socially/morally healthy citizens (bath houses). What the US should've been.
Oh I'm sure we would have found ways to function..the basis of currency is still barter :) Do not be so butthurt my friend with a peculiar name, and also, not a baniya lol. IVC people were awesome definitely, but not everything is completely awesome
Ansh Gandhi no, barter system is distinct from money system. Without money evil baniya does not function. If you arent baniya what are you? Brahmn? Harijan? Bhil Adivasi?
Its strange that we have gone to the moon and now not far from going to Mars. But strangest thing is that we have not yet decipher the Indus valley writings.
+nillic It's just code. There are now computers powerful enough to determine a range of possibilities of what the texts could mean based on character appearance rates, commonalities in all human languages and so forth. If humans had language already when they left africa then all languages share certain semantic qualities. The key to the seals must be locked in those commonalities.
"The Moist Mystery of Mohenjo Daro" _"The Wet Wonder"_ Sounds more like R rated movies about intense explicit sessions of skoodilypooping than anything else
@Shahzeb Ali their is a thing which is called dna and gene , and genetic research of indus skeleton are related to Indian and Pakistani are to only punjabi people
@Ohm namah Shivay yeah ok. It was interesting but I don't really see how Jainism is connected to Indus valley civilization. The evidence is dodgy at best. Also I'm pretty sure Jainism emerged alongside Buddhism 3 or 4 centuries before 0 AD. It's possible they borrowed stuff from older religions and ppl have mistaken it as proof that Jainism is way older. Ur theory might be true. I'm not denying that , but there's scant evidence supporting it.
@Ohm namah Shivay the historicity of the first 22 thirtankaras is debated. They might very well be mythological fiction or ppl who lived at the same time. So while I agree Jainism might be an offshoot of an older religion . I doubt it's really that old. It's probably as different from the original IVC ( which we can't be sure of ) as Sikhism is from Judaism
RightBehind You no the people of indus valley was indian thats why okk...what about pashupati and yoge posture bulls found in indus valley..? They are related to hindusium plz this is indian civilisation not Pakistan
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I'm not sure on how he came to the conclusion that the Harappans aren't the ancestors of modern India and Pakistan, many of the ancient Harappan deities are present in the Hindu pantheon on of gods. In fact it's widely accepted that the Dravidian race of people in India are the direct descendants based on genealogy. And Pakistan became Islamic around 700 AD after the Arab invasion of the Ummayuds, they're ancestors were largely either Hindu, Jain or Buddhists as evidenced by the numerous archeological sites.
If Egyptian can feel proud on there Pyramids than why can't us ?? More than 85% of Egypt's population is muslims but there ancestors who created those pyramids were non muslims If you want to state that Pakistanis are mostly muslims therefore they can't claim this Indus civilization than you are totally wrong One more thing Indus was never be a part of ancient India This region (Pakistan) was known as Sindhu or Sindh the region beyond Sindh was called Hind Hind and Sindh were two different regions only at the time of british India it become a part of British India and now this state an official part of Pakistan
The entire territory of modern Pakistan, apart from most of Balochistan, has historically been a part of India, and that has nothing to do with hatefully created modern boundaries
Syed Mashood Ali and who even said don’t feel pride about it - the Indus Valley civilisation is the shared pride of the entire Indian subcontinent, regardless of religion. So idk what you are going on about he said nothing which would provoke your response 😒
Pakistani follow the narrative that their ancestors came from outside from the middle East and they suppressed the Hindus and ruled over them. In reality though most pakistanis were simply converted to islam. They are not from the Arab lands.
A mistake to associate the caste system / four varnas with the Great Bath at Mohenjo Daro. The four varnas came much later, starting around 100 CE, and to begin with among the Central Asian / Indo-European / Vedic people. You may like reading Early Indians (2018) by Tony Joseph. Also, since Vedic Hinduism itself came after or at best, towards the end of the Indus Valley civilisation, it's incorrect to appropriate the person in the seal as Pashupati, as some of the commenters are doing. At best, Shiva or Pashupati could be an invention of Vedic Hinduism under the influence of earlier Harappan beliefs.
I think Shiva was an old Local God in the region with Shakti/The Goddess and a few others. We are sure that Devas and Asuras came from the Iranians and all these merged with the Local culture(or what remained of it) to form the Vedic culture. Shiva, especially is not relevent in Early Vedas, but used as a figure to basically get the Locals to accept this new religion.
@@shubhamdubey9561 They didn't even have anything related to Vedas and we found absolutely zero Gods that were worshiped at that time. Shiva is the only one we are doubtful of as an Old God.
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Thank you for your series, I stumbled upon them one day and have been watching one episode with every breakfast. I'm of Indian origin, and I would like to know more about the Indus valley civilization and why the indians of today aren't considered descendants of the Indus valley civilization.
Aviram Bhalla-Levine FWIW, his presentation is pretty much what I remember from high school, back in the mid-'80s. I may have forgotten that we can't read their writing.
The history known today have been written mainly by the European Generals who ruled India and you guessed it, they have written it in a biased manner to show their supremacy over the natives. The say vedas and sanskrit have come from Aryans. This Aryan invasion has already been debunked. You dont find Sanskrit texts any where else in the world except India. Most the of the history written about our country is totally distorted.
2828jordan Spot on! The British historians wanted to believe that the native Indians were barbaric and it was the European aryans who came and civilized Indians. But that is clearly proved wrong by the discovery of Harappa and Mohenjadaro. Clearly the Indus valley civilization was far more advanced than the Europeans of later centuries. It would be stupid to believe that Caucasians came and dominated the natives of the Indus valley civilization. It is sad that some Indians still believe in this falsehood of "Aryans" and "Dravidians" and remain divided.
Cibson Charles Greeks were debating logic for centuries when the Romans were still living in caves, but the inferior Roman culture defeated the superior Greek culture. Your superior mind is no match for our advanced weapons. It is now believed that climate change and decline in trade from the West brought about the decline of the Indus Valley Civilization. Regardless of the cause, though, Caucasians moved into India in the Indo-Aryan migrations at the end of the Indus Valley civilization.
I find the history of our species to be inherently interesting. How can people not be interested in where we came from and how we got here? Seems like most are just looking to ace a test and move on.
I'm doing it as well for the same reason. (Ok, to be honest, I'm doing it to be good in quizzes as well :P ) Booker DeWitt Human history is fascinating and makes me want to become an archaeologist.
Sani Mathew LMAO both "India" and "Pakistan" did *not* exist back then. "India", "Hind" and "Hindustan" were names given by *foriegn invaders* for a large land with *various* ethnic groups, cultures and religions. Just like "Europe" is a name for continent with various ethnic groups, does *not* mean people are absolutely same.
I wish all the teachers were as cool as your videos. I would not have that hard time learning for my exams because I would actually remember something from their lessons.
5:09 If I'm remembering what I learned in school as a kid correctly, the guy wearing horns and flanked by a tiger and a bull on either side is supposed to be be Pashupati, a god of animals ("pashu" means animal, and "pati" indicates being the head of a group)
@@minusarseboy3430 I never said anything about a Hindu god... Pashupati may have been a precursor to Shiva, but that doesn't make him a Hindu god, if that's what you meant
So my grandmother happens to come from this state called Sindh which was India and now Pakistan. I was just curious because they are in a similar location...
I am. History is very interesting to me and it's just fun to watch this kind of thing. I finished with history at school years ago, yet I now spend more time reading/watching videos about it then when I had to do it for school.
The Indus Civilization disappeared, because the Saraswati river dried up. They think a group of people went to the east and they became the ancient Indians. An other group went to the west and they became the ancient Persians. The language of the ancient Persians (Avestan) is a sisterlanguage of the language of the ancient Indians (Sanskrit). Also, the religion of the ancient Persians (Zoroastrianism) is very similar to that of the ancient Indians (Hinduism). The Aryan Invasion Theory is BULLSHIT. It's invented by white people, so they can claim the Hindu civilization. The Hindu scriptures mention NOTHING about an invasion or a place called the Caucasus.
Actually the Rig Veda is full of references to battles, and attacking citadels, and a guy called "Purandar" which means "destroyer of cities" and is probably Indra. It talks of Aryans (Sanskrit = "of noble birth") defeating a people they called Dasyu (initially meaning barbarian, and later servant). This is where the Aryan invasion theory originates. Also, horses didn't exist in prehistoric India, but came from the Caucasus, and Vedic India has a huge number of references to horses and horse sacrifices and chariots. Also, the Indo-European language family came from the Caucasus, which is the language family of modern-day northern India, but not of modern-day southern India. Also, the Mitanni in northern Syria had exactly the same Vedic gods of which they wrote on tablets in cuneiform in 1500 BC, at a time when India had no archaeological evidence of these gods..
In our language (sindhi ) Moenjo daro means mound of dead my hometown is not more than 50 miles away from moenjodaro it is also near one of the hottest places on earth.
They don't do AP testing outside of the US (or North America, if CollegeBoard operates in Canada?), but plenty of schools around the world will consider AP scores.
If the people from Indus Valley Civilization are not todays people of Indian Subcontinent, How does the same caste system is practiced till date ? I mean how did this practice lived on ?
Deevanshu Kakkar IVC didn't spread over whole "Indian suncontinent". Only present day Pakistan, eastern Afghanistan and Northern India. "Valley" means the land around or close to river. The land around river Indus is in Pakistan.
Amish tripathi an Indian author has written about how Indus civilization was then and why did it end according to his own theory with a bit of Hindu mythology . Its called the Shiva trilogy which actually shows the Indian mythology in a new light . Not like immortal gods staying at the top of a mountain but like humans who smoke and have good intentions
+Andrew Shelton na bro, dont worry. If you get 40 out of 70 on multiple choice, and 2's on all the essays, youll get a 3, passing grade. So you good. just keep cramming
Wonderful video. I have two questions- 1. How do we know that the people in the Indus Valley did not translate into the modern peoples of India and Pakistan? 2. If the above is indeed the case, doesn't it cast a doubt on the theory you mentioned that ties the apparent use of the great bath and caste system ? One more for the heck of it- 3. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the physical spread of the Indus Valley System much greater than the present political territories of India and Pakistan? Thanks a lot. Keep up the good work :)
Why people keep commenting about their useless ap tests? I mean seriously, you look at comments, you see several dozen comments about ap test, and what you really think it makes any sense to write more of them?
So, in the video indian and some Pakistan present day culture is shown to be practiced by the Indus Valley Civilization people. But, John Green said that Indians or Pakistanis did not originate from the Indus Valley Civilization. Then how are the cultures same with present-day India or Pakistan and Indus Valley Civilization? Did the Aryans live at the same time and they adopted each other's cultures?
IVC didn't spread over only on present day Pakistan, eastern Afghanistan and Northern India. "Valley" means the land around or close to river. The land around river Indus is in Pakistan. IVC culture can't be properly traced.
Not Sarawati river , it's Saraswati river 😂 You are super awesome . 👌 I love your content . I from India , feeling proud to know that Indus valley civilization is ur favorite one . 💜
Wait. Just because the buildings were dense multi story homes constructed out of uniformly sized bricks constructed out of perpendicular streets. How does this imply that they had "government". Why are we to assumet that humans can not behave in an orderly and coordinated fassion without some guy with a whip and a bull horn telling them what to do? People can be VERY organized without violent institutionalized hirearchies.
I see what you are saying, however in many cases when you deal with a large number of people they usually gather in councils. These councils usually have big players (maybe the people who make the bricks, or the strongest, or a very motivational person) This therefore can cause a sense of very basic government, but not like Presidents and Kings that many people associate with government today.
Joe Crase Yea you see this a lot in primitive cultures. Chieftans are called upon to resolve disputes otherwise people are mostly left alone. The chieftans rulings are not enforced by an armed regiment, but by the fact that if the cheiftan reders a fair verdict and someone ignores it than people will chose not to deal with him in the future. These are fair systems of governence but i think not at all forms of government. Government characteristically has a rigidly defined hirearchy that enforces its opinions through threats of violence and an additional characteristic of government is that it is the judge in disputes involving its self. I maintain that there is no reason at all to expect such an organization as this to be present simply because a society is well organized.
Superb! Great lecture on Indus Valley Civilization! Perhaps, "A Great and Powerful Civilization extended to the far East..." Water is Life! Most living beings would probably migrate when their main water supply runs dry... Assuming, The Ganges River was flowing for thousands of years... Indian Subcontinent has over 1.7 billion people, what's the origin of East Indians ancestors? Indian Subcontinent has numerous ancient sophisticated temples, some that are carved out of mountains using cut-out monolith, for example, Kailasa Temple, Ellora Caves. How did they do it, assuming from 756 - 773 CE, 400,000 tons of rock, less than 18 years, 50+ tons of rock per day?
The coin depicts is a yoga pose. Its because Indus valley civilization’s residue made for the Vedas, Upanishads & Sanskrit scriptures, kinds Meditations and Yoga.
Great video as usual. Kudos! Just want to add, I felt there was a notable omission here. The statue of the dancing girl. The finding of the statue has helped infer quite a lot of interesting facts about the civilization. The statue is stored in a museum in Delhi.
When was the statue found? Just wondering cause this video was made in 2012. If it was found long enough before then to have a good amount of information on it, then they might have left it out because they couldn't find a way to fit it in.
@@happysoul941 I looked it up and there was quite a bit of information on it, but again I say they might have just not known how to work it into the video. They only have so much time and it might not have been relevant enough to fit in. Although I believe that the information on the statue of the dancing girl is very interesting.
@@gabbimccarthy4888 Understandable! My original comment may help many viewers find an excellent topic of research around Indus valley civilization, though. I assume the IVC was most populated in it's time. There are possibly many more IVC sites still waiting to be discovered. More effort should be put into finding them. That perhaps can also help deciphering the Indus Script.
***** Price discrimination: setting different prices for different customers. Berries may not necessarily be poisonous themselves, but they may be laced with poison. How would you know? There is over the counter, then there is under the counter.
Notes: Civilization Requirements Surplus production - being able to feed the people lets you build cities Specialization of labor - trade Social stratification Centralized government, shared values (often in religion and writing) 5000 years ago civilizations were associated with river Why river valleys? Flat, well watered, floods brought nutrient-rich silt Indus Valley civilization Located in the flood plain of the Indus and sarawati rivers Rivers flooded twice a year Flourished at around 3000 BCE Traded with Mesopotamians Trade cloth for bronze, used seals on their goods Largest ancient civilization Over 1500 sites had two major cities: Mohenjo and Harappa Made of dense, multistory homes constructed out of bricks perpendicular to the streets Built to catch wind to cool homes Had a drainage system that carried waste and water in sewer ditches that ran under avenues - implied there was government but has an unknown authority Peaceful- barely any weapons and no evidence of war Around 1750 BCE the civilization declined Why? Possibilities: Over run by Caucasus Environmental disaster Major earthquake changed the river course so tributaries dried up
"cause all the other languages sounded like 'BAR BAR BAR BAR BAR BAR BAR'" I don't think I've laughed this hard at an educational video in my entire life, thanks
"The Moist Mystery of Mohenjo Daro" "The Wet Wonder" Sounds more like R rated movies about intense explicit sessions of skoodilypooping than anything else
I love how the stick figure is still contemplating his existential questions in utter meditative silence throughout this video. Hope he figured it out, man. Or just stopped overthinking everything. One of the two.
+serioushamster well, it wasn't "so easily". The time frame between the "mature" Harappan phase and the late Harappan phase (when the civilization started to decline ) was over a period of a 1000 years or even more. As mentioned in the video, the cause is hotly debated, but in my opinion and research, it was due to the shifting of the main course of the Indus River, which lead to the drying of major tributaries in the system, such as the much fabled Saraswati river, the remnants of which is now believed to be the dry river bed of Ghaggar-Hakra.
"We don't know what the great bath was used for"
My theory is that is was used for a great number of people to wash themselves
Hahaha
He means to say that the reason people would wash themselves there is unknown.
+Steven Choza maybe it had nice decor
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Seriously?
well for romans bathing was also a social thing, quite possibly it was also a social thing a place to make deals and strengthen social bonds while bathing.
civilization coming to a dank river valley near you
*The Great Bath*
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That's interesting that there is little evidence of war in the indus valley, when their neighbors in Mesopotamia never stopped.
"I am a huge fan of John Green!"
Me: Yeah, that's how I got my weird sayings about the Mongols and land wars in Asia.
"Uh... but what about the Fault in Our Stars?
Me: Uh... what?
According to most Ancient History text books which are prescribed in Indian schools, the powerful dude with horned helmet is 'Pashupati', an incarnation of Hindu god 'Shiva'. 'Pashu' means animal and 'pati' means master or lord. So basically 'Lord of animals'.
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The stamp may depicts lord shiva in yoga asana (this yoga asana is taught in india as "PADMAASANA"
The animals usually depicts the devine bond living peacefully together
As lord shiva is considered creator of universe ,he is also cosidered lord of animals
as he is some times reffered as Pashupati nath
"Pashu" means animal and "Nath" means lord
There is a temple in india /Nepal called "pashupati Nath" temple dedicated to lord shiva
Shiva is considered the first YOGI inventor of yoga
The posture on the stamp may be a yoga posture which we practice for improving Chakra
U can also see shiva in famous NATRAJ posture , dancing for creation of universe
widely discussed and known in HINDUISM text and india and rest of the world
Hinduism didn't exited back then it came with the people who came in the region later on so it's not a hindu god afterall
daniyal k yes but they also incorporated a lot of pre existing beliefs into Hinduism like this one
Jonty Roy motu pati
Vedas are found from those places so they are considered Hindu Gods by archeologists.
what a beautiful morning, I sure am living in the decline of western civilization
good one xD
Not really...
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when you Look at non-Politicized facts we are actually living in the Best time to be alive. (in western civilization)
We have almost constant Access to running water, Near equal sexual, racial, and religious equality.
we even have constant access to mass of human information Making self education possible.
Personal freedoms are flourishing and modern Medicine is saving Billions of lives world wide!
Even with the upcoming american election and Britain leaving the European union, society has checks and balances to stop tyrants or total economic collapse. I dare you Name one time it would be better to be alive!
+Jacob B ancient Indus valley civilisation!
I think the Indus were the first human civilization that grasped the idea of something beyond the material. I think it was a nation of philosophers and inventors who created a intellectual meritocracy. I think it was the first strive towards the most ideal nation as seen with the lack of emphasis on power (Less importance on temples and palaces) and emphasis of exchanging ideas and socially/morally healthy citizens (bath houses). What the US should've been.
That too without any weapons. Genius!
They did make currency, though. The root of almost all modern day evils, the successor of the barter.
Ansh Gandhi if there was no currency, then baniyas like you wouldnt even function. So be thankful to IVC people atleast
Oh I'm sure we would have found ways to function..the basis of currency is still barter :) Do not be so butthurt my friend with a peculiar name, and also, not a baniya lol. IVC people were awesome definitely, but not everything is completely awesome
Ansh Gandhi no, barter system is distinct from money system. Without money evil baniya does not function. If you arent baniya what are you? Brahmn? Harijan? Bhil Adivasi?
Its strange that we have gone to the moon and now not far from going to Mars. But strangest thing is that we have not yet decipher the Indus valley writings.
so do I, I am planning to take history lessons at one of our UK universities.
+Mashiur Chowdhury
We need Rosetta Stone. The other option would be to keep digging! :)
+nillic It's just code. There are now computers powerful enough to determine a range of possibilities of what the texts could mean based on character appearance rates, commonalities in all human languages and so forth. If humans had language already when they left africa then all languages share certain semantic qualities. The key to the seals must be locked in those commonalities.
Came for history.. left with history and relationship advice. (I actually was having a problem with clinginess... damn.. this helped. )
When you start studying a night before the exam
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Omg same
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What I'm doing right now XD
literally all the comments on these vids:
1. who else is cramming for a test
2. who else is not cramming for a test and just enjoying history
smh
global history II is hard man im telling you
unless you are the Mongols
XD
just enjoying history
I just really like history the way he does it
"The Moist Mystery of Mohenjo Daro"
_"The Wet Wonder"_
Sounds more like R rated movies about intense explicit sessions of skoodilypooping than anything else
Sabba7h im glad im not the only who thought that .😅
me too
R is not the appropriate rating for those movies.
Yesssss. I couldnt think of a way to say that without getting reported but you did it perfectly.
Nice to know I'm not the only one with a dirty mind
Indus Valley Civilization area correspondent to modern Pakistan. We are very proud of achievements of our ancestors.
Then why your name is quraishi, go back to arabia
@Shahzeb Ali their is a thing which is called dna and gene , and genetic research of indus skeleton are related to Indian and Pakistani are to only punjabi people
"Sarawati" river? It's "Saraswati!"
damn son I'm sorry
not like we pronounce words different in different accents or languages
cut the americans some slack bhai
@Ohm namah Shivay omg someone finally pointed this out! lmao good to know im still from the original indus valley civilization
@Ohm namah Shivay yeah ok. It was interesting but I don't really see how Jainism is connected to Indus valley civilization. The evidence is dodgy at best.
Also I'm pretty sure Jainism emerged alongside Buddhism 3 or 4 centuries before 0 AD.
It's possible they borrowed stuff from older religions and ppl have mistaken it as proof that Jainism is way older.
Ur theory might be true. I'm not denying that , but there's scant evidence supporting it.
@Ohm namah Shivay the historicity of the first 22 thirtankaras is debated. They might very well be mythological fiction or ppl who lived at the same time.
So while I agree Jainism might be an offshoot of an older religion . I doubt it's really that old.
It's probably as different from the original IVC ( which we can't be sure of ) as Sikhism is from Judaism
when ur apwh test is in 7 days and you forgot everything before 1914
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I've seen the Mohenjo Daro, Harappa, Taxila, and the silk route :D All in Pakistan
Backthter
And Indians love taking credit for it just because some foriegners named a multi-ethnic land with different people as "India". LOL.
RightBehind You no the people of indus valley was indian thats why okk...what about pashupati and yoge posture bulls found in indus valley..?
They are related to hindusium plz this is indian civilisation not Pakistan
Backthter taxila and taxila university is made by hindus not muslims okk and the hindus are living in India
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I'm not sure on how he came to the conclusion that the Harappans aren't the ancestors of modern India and Pakistan, many of the ancient Harappan deities are present in the Hindu pantheon on of gods. In fact it's widely accepted that the Dravidian race of people in India are the direct descendants based on genealogy. And Pakistan became Islamic around 700 AD after the Arab invasion of the Ummayuds, they're ancestors were largely either Hindu, Jain or Buddhists as evidenced by the numerous archeological sites.
If Egyptian can feel proud on there Pyramids than why can't us ??
More than 85% of Egypt's population is muslims but there ancestors who created those pyramids were non muslims
If you want to state that Pakistanis are mostly muslims therefore they can't claim this Indus civilization than you are totally wrong
One more thing Indus was never be a part of ancient India
This region (Pakistan) was known as Sindhu or Sindh the region beyond Sindh was called Hind
Hind and Sindh were two different regions only at the time of british India it become a part of British India and now this state an official part of Pakistan
Syed Mashood Ali hind and sindh are literally the same thing pronounced differently what are you on bro
The entire territory of modern Pakistan, apart from most of Balochistan, has historically been a part of India, and that has nothing to do with hatefully created modern boundaries
Syed Mashood Ali and who even said don’t feel pride about it - the Indus Valley civilisation is the shared pride of the entire Indian subcontinent, regardless of religion. So idk what you are going on about he said nothing which would provoke your response 😒
Pakistani follow the narrative that their ancestors came from outside from the middle East and they suppressed the Hindus and ruled over them.
In reality though most pakistanis were simply converted to islam. They are not from the Arab lands.
A mistake to associate the caste system / four varnas with the Great Bath at Mohenjo Daro. The four varnas came much later, starting around 100 CE, and to begin with among the Central Asian / Indo-European / Vedic people. You may like reading Early Indians (2018) by Tony Joseph.
Also, since Vedic Hinduism itself came after or at best, towards the end of the Indus Valley civilisation, it's incorrect to appropriate the person in the seal as Pashupati, as some of the commenters are doing. At best, Shiva or Pashupati could be an invention of Vedic Hinduism under the influence of earlier Harappan beliefs.
At best you can comment or think whatever you want but that person is Shiva and whole Harappan civilization was vedic Hindu civilization
I think Shiva was an old Local God in the region with Shakti/The Goddess and a few others. We are sure that Devas and Asuras came from the Iranians and all these merged with the Local culture(or what remained of it) to form the Vedic culture. Shiva, especially is not relevent in Early Vedas, but used as a figure to basically get the Locals to accept this new religion.
@@shubhamdubey9561 They didn't even have anything related to Vedas and we found absolutely zero Gods that were worshiped at that time. Shiva is the only one we are doubtful of as an Old God.
@@ishubetterthanyou1582 only fools likey you are sure theirs no evidence
@@ishubetterthanyou1582 don't tell me what they found , we are not blind
I'm home schooled and I find these to be a great source of information on very interesting subjects. Thanks CrashCourse! p.s I spend way too much time watching you're videos...
Thank you for your series, I stumbled upon them one day and have been watching one episode with every breakfast. I'm of Indian origin, and I would like to know more about the Indus valley civilization and why the indians of today aren't considered descendants of the Indus valley civilization.
Aviram Bhalla-Levine FWIW, his presentation is pretty much what I remember from high school, back in the mid-'80s. I may have forgotten that we can't read their writing.
man ar u living in america , i live in india what is ur name bro ?
The history known today have been written mainly by the European Generals who ruled India and you guessed it, they have written it in a biased manner to show their supremacy over the natives. The say vedas and sanskrit have come from Aryans. This Aryan invasion has already been debunked. You dont find Sanskrit texts any where else in the world except India. Most the of the history written about our country is totally distorted.
2828jordan Spot on! The British historians wanted to believe that the native Indians were barbaric and it was the European aryans who came and civilized Indians. But that is clearly proved wrong by the discovery of Harappa and Mohenjadaro. Clearly the Indus valley civilization was far more advanced than the Europeans of later centuries. It would be stupid to believe that Caucasians came and dominated the natives of the Indus valley civilization. It is sad that some Indians still believe in this falsehood of "Aryans" and "Dravidians" and remain divided.
Cibson Charles Greeks were debating logic for centuries when the Romans were still living in caves, but the inferior Roman culture defeated the superior Greek culture. Your superior mind is no match for our advanced weapons.
It is now believed that climate change and decline in trade from the West brought about the decline of the Indus Valley Civilization. Regardless of the cause, though, Caucasians moved into India in the Indo-Aryan migrations at the end of the Indus Valley civilization.
I hope one day archeologists learn more about the Indus Valley and how it collasped.
John Green teaching about the Indes Valley civilization and giving relationship advice in the same breath? I love Crash Course!
I got this channel 11 years to late. Thank You for all of your work. Loving it!
Am I really the only one who's watching the World History series to understand history and not for tests?
Anyone?
Okay.
I find the history of our species to be inherently interesting. How can people not be interested in where we came from and how we got here? Seems like most are just looking to ace a test and move on.
I'm doing it as well for the same reason. (Ok, to be honest, I'm doing it to be good in quizzes as well :P )
Booker DeWitt Human history is fascinating and makes me want to become an archaeologist.
lol same here!
youre not the only one bb
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Watch at 0.75 speed if you have trouble keeping up what he says!
Or turn on captions if you prefer reading info!
You forgot to to mention that India is named after Indus which flows in Pakistan and the places like Harrapa and Moenjo daro are in Pakistan.
+Hassan Ali Ah what a lovely day to wake up and see hypernationalism in youtube comment you go pakistani-hindu conflict
So
You also forgot to mention that Pakistan was part of India until the British chose to separate it from actual India.
think.... the country is only about 60 yrs old.... this civ is about 9000 yrs old.... where is the logic!!!!
Sani Mathew LMAO both "India" and "Pakistan" did *not* exist back then. "India", "Hind" and "Hindustan" were names given by *foriegn invaders* for a large land with *various* ethnic groups, cultures and religions. Just like "Europe" is a name for continent with various ethnic groups, does *not* mean people are absolutely same.
Hi John, could you do a crash course on ancient South Indian History? That would be great!
I wish all the teachers were as cool as your videos. I would not have that hard time learning for my exams because I would actually remember something from their lessons.
I don't even go to school anymore, but I'm learning much more than if I did!
I am from Mongolia and I love how John Green randomly refers to "THE MONGOLS!!!" all the time
5:09 If I'm remembering what I learned in school as a kid correctly, the guy wearing horns and flanked by a tiger and a bull on either side is supposed to be be Pashupati, a god of animals ("pashu" means animal, and "pati" indicates being the head of a group)
It ain't a Hindu god. Hinduism didn't exist back then.
@@minusarseboy3430 I never said anything about a Hindu god...
Pashupati may have been a precursor to Shiva, but that doesn't make him a Hindu god, if that's what you meant
5:11 seating posture depicted is incorrect instead it's yogic posture - Pashupati ( "Lord of animals" - Shiva) seal
Right
So my grandmother happens to come from this state called Sindh which was India and now Pakistan. I was just curious because they are in a similar location...
Is anyone else here simply for entertainment and not to cram for a test.
I am. History is very interesting to me and it's just fun to watch this kind of thing. I finished with history at school years ago, yet I now spend more time reading/watching videos about it then when I had to do it for school.
So am I
i am
Mix6Mix6 no
Haha, that's where you're wrong. Watching now for "leisure" so later I have to "cram" less for the test... 2 in one!
"He said, pointing at his pants."
Watching the entire Crash Course world history all over again just to get ready for Season 2. : )
Yay! Crash course is awesome.
0:04 i ask myself this everyday lmao
The Indus Civilization disappeared, because the Saraswati river dried up. They think a group of people went to the east and they became the ancient Indians. An other group went to the west and they became the ancient Persians.
The language of the ancient Persians (Avestan) is a sisterlanguage of the language of the ancient Indians (Sanskrit). Also, the religion of the ancient Persians (Zoroastrianism) is very similar to that of the ancient Indians (Hinduism).
The Aryan Invasion Theory is BULLSHIT. It's invented by white people, so they can claim the Hindu civilization. The Hindu scriptures mention NOTHING about an invasion or a place called the Caucasus.
rightly said.
I have to agree with you on that.
Actually the Rig Veda is full of references to battles, and attacking citadels, and a guy called "Purandar" which means "destroyer of cities" and is probably Indra. It talks of Aryans (Sanskrit = "of noble birth") defeating a people they called Dasyu (initially meaning barbarian, and later servant). This is where the Aryan invasion theory originates. Also, horses didn't exist in prehistoric India, but came from the Caucasus, and Vedic India has a huge number of references to horses and horse sacrifices and chariots. Also, the Indo-European language family came from the Caucasus, which is the language family of modern-day northern India, but not of modern-day southern India. Also, the Mitanni in northern Syria had exactly the same Vedic gods of which they wrote on tablets in cuneiform in 1500 BC, at a time when India had no archaeological evidence of these gods..
Hindustan
IVC was *NOT* Hindu. Hinduism came during *VEDIC period after collapse of IVC* .
someone said that john green was our lord and savior in ap world history. they were right.
+jason sheu where's the lie
+Nora Mandelkern the cake
+jason sheu lol
that symbol is "pasupathi".. incarnation of Siva
I believe the earliest evidence of meditation came from the Indus Valley Civilation as well.
I am just watching to be ahead of class.. hehe
same
Anand Krishnan Lol..
Chemica Griffin me too
Out of nearly 1500 sites of IVC, 970 sites are in India including the largest(Rakhigarhi) and oldest (Bhirana) sites.
john green: unless you are- say it with me-
me: tHe mONgoLs
"The HOT-MES-O-POTAMIA" *facepalm* Oh John
you just taught me more than my lesson i did in school today, thank you!
Let's check in on the Indus River valley civilization they're gone
India got broke
Anyone December 2019
BTW happy new year it 2020
oh yeah
AP Test thursday
+Jeremiah Brand same fam
James Joaquin ugh
+Jeremiah Brand same too
Ready for the test fam
How'd you do? I assume great
In our language (sindhi ) Moenjo daro means mound of dead my hometown is not more than 50 miles away from moenjodaro it is also near one of the hottest places on earth.
What the hell is an AP test??
lmao thank you
They don't do AP testing outside of the US (or North America, if CollegeBoard operates in Canada?), but plenty of schools around the world will consider AP scores.
+1230james That is not true. When I lived in Spain, the school I went to offered the AP test for Environmental Science.
nadeem akhtar Really? I didn't know that. :o
Nice to see AP testing reaching places outside the US.
it's for people that are obviously smarter than u
If the people from Indus Valley Civilization are not todays people of Indian Subcontinent, How does the same caste system is practiced till date ? I mean how did this practice lived on ?
Deevanshu Kakkar
IVC didn't spread over whole "Indian suncontinent". Only present day Pakistan, eastern Afghanistan and Northern India. "Valley" means the land around or close to river. The land around river Indus is in Pakistan.
We might needed "the mongols" or "unless youre mongols" merch in 2012 😂😂
Earliest comment~~~ Btw who else is here just 2 study?
The pool that ruled is an awesome name for the great bath.
Thanks for the info I needed this for my school assesmant
The video is good. And, astonishingly for youtube, the comments are better. I want to thank all of you smartasses for brightening my day😀
Aw dang guess I’m a civilization guys
This was way too funny. . .
Thank you crash course for making these videos because they are helpful for cramming for tests
have to watch a lot of these before school even starts 🤧
Amish tripathi an Indian author has written about how Indus civilization was then and why did it end according to his own theory with a bit of Hindu mythology . Its called the Shiva trilogy which actually shows the Indian mythology in a new light . Not like immortal gods staying at the top of a mountain but like humans who smoke and have good intentions
Rewatching this after seven (SEVEN?!) years and I feel like if more people had watched it, things would be very very different.
im screwed homies, im gonna geta 1
+Andrew Shelton na bro, dont worry. If you get 40 out of 70 on multiple choice, and 2's on all the essays, youll get a 3, passing grade. So you good. just keep cramming
"unless you are the Mongols"
Wonderful video. I have two questions-
1. How do we know that the people in the Indus Valley did not translate into the modern peoples of India and Pakistan?
2. If the above is indeed the case, doesn't it cast a doubt on the theory you mentioned that ties the apparent use of the great bath and caste system ?
One more for the heck of it-
3. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the physical spread of the Indus Valley System much greater than the present political territories of India and Pakistan?
Thanks a lot. Keep up the good work :)
Anyone else watching these for their AP world history test?
+Poopiroopi yessir every time someone ask me what I'm doing this weekend I yell "I'M LEARNING THE HISTORY OF THE WHOLE WORLD"
Why people keep commenting about their useless ap tests? I mean seriously, you look at comments, you see several dozen comments about ap test, and what you really think it makes any sense to write more of them?
So, in the video indian and some Pakistan present day culture is shown to be practiced by the Indus Valley Civilization people. But, John Green said that Indians or Pakistanis did not originate from the Indus Valley Civilization. Then how are the cultures same with present-day India or Pakistan and Indus Valley Civilization? Did the Aryans live at the same time and they adopted each other's cultures?
IVC didn't spread over only on present day Pakistan, eastern Afghanistan and Northern India. "Valley" means the land around or close to river. The land around river Indus is in Pakistan.
IVC culture can't be properly traced.
Trappa Uh Da Yay
If you are inhabitant of Punjab, Sindh, KPK or Kashmir then you are from Indus valley. Otherwise not
What about Bangladesh?
Raghu Padma the only difference is the Islamic culture of Pakistan.
Rest is all same.
So according to John Green 'Pashupati shiva' is a powerful dude with horned helmet😂
I'm in love with CC
It ain't a Hindu god. Hinduism didn't exist back then.
Indus valley civilization were in modern day Pakistan.
Not Sarawati river , it's Saraswati river 😂
You are super awesome . 👌 I love your content .
I from India , feeling proud to know that Indus valley civilization is ur favorite one . 💜
I'm not ready for tomorrow
unless if you're the Mongols
***** the Mongols are the exception
whatd you end up getting on your exam?
Are we not gonna talk about the fact that he drew a smiley face WITH A DOT FOR THE NOSE???
indus.. I was confused XD we call it "sindhu"
Это видео 2012 года все еще вызывает у меня дикий восторг
Wait. Just because the buildings were dense multi story homes constructed out of uniformly sized bricks constructed out of perpendicular streets. How does this imply that they had "government". Why are we to assumet that humans can not behave in an orderly and coordinated fassion without some guy with a whip and a bull horn telling them what to do? People can be VERY organized without violent institutionalized hirearchies.
Exactly!
Because of agriculture basically....See the new video about civilization.
I see what you are saying, however in many cases when you deal with a large number of people they usually gather in councils. These councils usually have big players (maybe the people who make the bricks, or the strongest, or a very motivational person) This therefore can cause a sense of very basic government, but not like Presidents and Kings that many people associate with government today.
Joe Crase Yea you see this a lot in primitive cultures. Chieftans are called upon to resolve disputes otherwise people are mostly left alone. The chieftans rulings are not enforced by an armed regiment, but by the fact that if the cheiftan reders a fair verdict and someone ignores it than people will chose not to deal with him in the future. These are fair systems of governence but i think not at all forms of government. Government characteristically has a rigidly defined hirearchy that enforces its opinions through threats of violence and an additional characteristic of government is that it is the judge in disputes involving its self. I maintain that there is no reason at all to expect such an organization as this to be present simply because a society is well organized.
"the moist mystery of mohenjodaro" had me very uncomfortable and sounds like a cool 18+ horror movie.
ancient indian history needs so much more recognition.
Superb! Great lecture on Indus Valley Civilization! Perhaps, "A Great and Powerful Civilization extended to the far East..." Water is Life! Most living beings would probably migrate when their main water supply runs dry... Assuming, The Ganges River was flowing for thousands of years... Indian Subcontinent has over 1.7 billion people, what's the origin of East Indians ancestors? Indian Subcontinent has numerous ancient sophisticated temples, some that are carved out of mountains using cut-out monolith, for example, Kailasa Temple, Ellora Caves. How did they do it, assuming from 756 - 773 CE, 400,000 tons of rock, less than 18 years, 50+ tons of rock per day?
The coin depicts is a yoga pose. Its because Indus valley civilization’s residue made for the Vedas, Upanishads & Sanskrit scriptures, kinds Meditations and Yoga.
Just preparing for tomorrow's........exam
Oh my god yes!!
Learning this on your own is more enjoyable than having to cram it
Great video as usual. Kudos!
Just want to add, I felt there was a notable omission here. The statue of the dancing girl.
The finding of the statue has helped infer quite a lot of interesting facts about the civilization. The statue is stored in a museum in Delhi.
When was the statue found? Just wondering cause this video was made in 2012. If it was found long enough before then to have a good amount of information on it, then they might have left it out because they couldn't find a way to fit it in.
@@gabbimccarthy4888 Please google "the statue of the dancing girl".
@@happysoul941 I looked it up and there was quite a bit of information on it, but again I say they might have just not known how to work it into the video. They only have so much time and it might not have been relevant enough to fit in. Although I believe that the information on the statue of the dancing girl is very interesting.
@@gabbimccarthy4888 Understandable!
My original comment may help many viewers find an excellent topic of research around Indus valley civilization, though.
I assume the IVC was most populated in it's time. There are possibly many more IVC sites still waiting to be discovered. More effort should be put into finding them. That perhaps can also help deciphering the Indus Script.
The most important question is "why am I alive?"
The true first civilization. Civilized and Peaceful.
I LIKE THE DREAMS OF FUTURE,BETTER THAN THE HISTORY OF PAST🤔🤔🤔
Good lord, this civilization was over 5000 years old
and still continues somewhat similarly down south. Tamil civilization
Loving the dig at Houston.
If you have berries and I have a hammer, I have a hammer, and I have berries.
+PtolemyJones Now THAT'S what I call high-pressure sales tactics! Good job. Capitalism wins
***** Price discrimination: setting different prices for different customers. Berries may not necessarily be poisonous themselves, but they may be laced with poison. How would you know? There is over the counter, then there is under the counter.
***** Assymetric information: the seller ALWAYS knows more than the buyer.
+PtolemyJones was that meant to be dirty?
+PtolemyJones I was interested in your comments, but when I saw the replies below, I am done, I am totally done . No why.
Notes:
Civilization Requirements
Surplus production - being able to feed the people lets you build cities
Specialization of labor - trade
Social stratification
Centralized government, shared values (often in religion and writing)
5000 years ago civilizations were associated with river
Why river valleys?
Flat, well watered, floods brought nutrient-rich silt
Indus Valley civilization
Located in the flood plain of the Indus and sarawati rivers
Rivers flooded twice a year
Flourished at around 3000 BCE
Traded with Mesopotamians
Trade cloth for bronze, used seals on their goods
Largest ancient civilization
Over 1500 sites had two major cities: Mohenjo and Harappa
Made of dense, multistory homes constructed out of bricks perpendicular to the streets
Built to catch wind to cool homes
Had a drainage system that carried waste and water in sewer ditches that ran under avenues
- implied there was government but has an unknown authority
Peaceful- barely any weapons and no evidence of war
Around 1750 BCE the civilization declined
Why?
Possibilities:
Over run by Caucasus
Environmental disaster
Major earthquake changed the river course so tributaries dried up
Totally An Alien Thank you for this. You will save many a grade with this information.
Totally An Alien I love you
wow thank you
It's literally been a year, but I too love you for this
As do I
Is anyone here just because they like history? Lol.
+justin mcconnell ME!
+justin mcconnell Me too, but I doubt what he's teaching is accurate enough ........ofcourse with history you can't be 100% accurate
BAHAHAHA nope, i have a midterm
me
+inPursuit ofNirvana This series is a good starting point to figure out what sections of history you find more interesting.
"cause all the other languages sounded like 'BAR BAR BAR BAR BAR BAR BAR'" I don't think I've laughed this hard at an educational video in my entire life, thanks
the stick figure with a smiley face asking why it's alive is way funnier to me than it should be
Alaney Holland It’s Forky from Toy Story 4 lol
i mean if he want the response i can give it to him but just like any other 7th grade you probably dont want it
"The Moist Mystery of Mohenjo Daro"
"The Wet Wonder"
Sounds more like R rated movies about intense explicit sessions of skoodilypooping than anything else
very much agreed i was very concerned
the wet wonder is what got me :P
I'll settle with The Great Bath unless you guys have another passable name.
The wet wonder from down under sounds more catchy 😅
I love how the stick figure is still contemplating his existential questions in utter meditative silence throughout this video. Hope he figured it out, man. Or just stopped overthinking everything. One of the two.
+Bryce “Bryce no. 6” Fergusson He got erased before the next video.
TheRealPentigan That's sad.
The Indus Valley people had a drainage system,something the Europeans didnt get till the 1800s.How did such an advanced people die out so easily?
+serioushamster well, it wasn't "so easily". The time frame between the "mature" Harappan phase and the late Harappan phase (when the civilization started to decline ) was over a period of a 1000 years or even more. As mentioned in the video, the cause is hotly debated, but in my opinion and research, it was due to the shifting of the main course of the Indus River, which lead to the drying of major tributaries in the system, such as the much fabled Saraswati river, the remnants of which is now believed to be the dry river bed of Ghaggar-Hakra.
the recent published research shows it was as old as 8000 year old.. i think they survived quite a good time
Mesopotamian did it too 🤗
serioushamster They survived for so long , I think they made a long lasting legacy
serioushamster They survived for hundreds - a thousand years so they actually last for a long time