they had code to specifically make the gas pass not count as wet. it was never a glitch it was intentional to not crit when gassed. glad it got changed though.
More importantly, so that means that they did do a balance change, but shyly disguised it as a bug fix. Balance changes can happen, I guess they just don't want us to ask for them.
actually no! i made a game mode where it was a core part of balancing, we (the tournament organisation im with) ran a tournament for it and one of the owners of the org set up a playdate with some valve devs where they played all of the org's game modes (there was even a stream vod of it). the tf2 guy was surprised we needed a plugin for the neon gas passer crits, so he said he would add it :3
@@tf_lecterValve continuing to ignore casual players while listening to comp players who hold the minority and hate the base game. TF2 was fucked from the start huh…
@@TwistedFireX we, fortress faceoffs, are an organisation that tries to appeal moreso to casual players than to comp players by focusing on aspects that are not normally relevant in competetive formats. we build silly formats for everyone to enjoy. your comment makes no sense honestly
@@smearfo5612 MyM is the result of catering to comp players. Valve exclusively listened to comp players for advice about the update. TF YOU TALKING ABOUT RETARD??
The most broken thing about this buff is that the effect linger on the ground and so anyone walking through can also be wet not just the initial throw.
That's not how subclasses work, that's just a playstyle/gimmick, subclass would be Dragon Fury which drastically changes how Pyro shows, drastically switches around his strengths and weaknesses etc
Valve wanted to buff the gas passer but didn’t want to give anyone the idea that they would be doing balance changes again so they just called it a “fix” instead. The gas passer not comboing with the neon annihilator was clearly intentional not a bug
"How did they not know?" Obviously they DID know, and they chose not to until now. Just because we think it makes sense doesn't mean that it makes sense to them, or that we are even right.
Yeah lol, I tried it out and was like "okay, this is cool, I kinda like it... but _I'm a Pyro._ I have a _flamethrower_ and _melee is usually janky as shit._ "
I'm more impressed by the fact jungle inferno was 7 years ago. Man I always referred to myself a new player but nahhhh we're fucking fossils in this game wtf 💀💀
Being so hard to tell if the combo didn't work cause of a never patched glitch or because they actually just didn't want it to be a thing until now is the most valve moment ever
Wait wait wait, you mean to tell me for 7 YEARS Valve thought that you could crit with the gas passer and neon? Valve that is just unbelievably embarassing
This is what every previous nothing update should have been. This is nothing more than the bare minimum, and in my opinion shouldn't be praised without a reminder of how long Valve has left us to rot.
i dunno man you’re able to drop 5 classes with a single hit if you manage to combo them, and with 2 hits you can 1 shot every class (excluding overhealed heavies)
Nah there is no way that was actually a glitch for that long. It must have been an actual fix which they called a glitch so that the community doesn’t expect them to rebalance weapons from now on
![[TF2] Bad Weapon Academy: Eviction Notice](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WqZ3yWAezdY/mqdefault.jpg)
The one and only buff the gas passer will ever receive
Maybe... Who knows.
from 60s to 45s
The one and only balance change for the rest of eternity
The one and only buff the gas passer has ever needed
"After 7 years in development, hopefully it will have been worth the wait."
ah hell nah
Pyroshark is now an actual viable subclass
Gotta fight those things now!? Spy ain't even gonna play the game now.
Kinda,the gas passer is still fucking horrible,if anything it buffed the neon annihilator more than anything
@@VortexF yeah that's the point
Landsharks
Finally: Landshark
Dear God now pyro sharks are amphibious
THEY FUCKING EVOLVED
Pyro frogs
Theres more
No....
"Congratulations! Your PYRO SHARK evolved into a *_PYRO GARCHOMP!!!"_*
they had code to specifically make the gas pass not count as wet. it was never a glitch it was intentional to not crit when gassed. glad it got changed though.
Oh god, that triggers my bison PTSD
So they specifically made It shit?
@@lucatriunfo8023my guess is “wet” would put out flames on you or something
@@spellbound8253Ohhhh
More importantly, so that means that they did do a balance change, but shyly disguised it as a bug fix. Balance changes can happen, I guess they just don't want us to ask for them.
some intern probably watched dane's video recently and went "oh shit we forgot about this"
actually no! i made a game mode where it was a core part of balancing, we (the tournament organisation im with) ran a tournament for it and one of the owners of the org set up a playdate with some valve devs where they played all of the org's game modes (there was even a stream vod of it). the tf2 guy was surprised we needed a plugin for the neon gas passer crits, so he said he would add it :3
@@tf_lecterValve continuing to ignore casual players while listening to comp players who hold the minority and hate the base game. TF2 was fucked from the start huh…
@@TwistedFireX we, fortress faceoffs, are an organisation that tries to appeal moreso to casual players than to comp players by focusing on aspects that are not normally relevant in competetive formats. we build silly formats for everyone to enjoy. your comment makes no sense honestly
@@tf_lecter It's youtube comments, don't expect anyone here to actually know what they're talking about.
@@smearfo5612 MyM is the result of catering to comp players. Valve exclusively listened to comp players for advice about the update. TF YOU TALKING ABOUT RETARD??
Damn
Jarate but balanced
Tankier sniper
When the close range class gets options at close range
@@buggerofallhell1153 true
it's still shit
Gas Passer made slightly more viable due to Neon Annihilator synergy making it a shittier Jarate/Bushwacka is a very TF2 moment
Well more hp and burn damage doesn't hurt
Remember gas lingers for longer and has bigger splash
@@Mannco.orange I hope its hitbox is less buggy
To be fair the fact that a potted plant is capable of coding is pretty amazing in of itself.
The most broken thing about this buff is that the effect linger on the ground and so anyone walking through can also be wet not just the initial throw.
I used this once to spawncamp
It doesn’t last long tho so I only got 1 kill out of it
New subclass unlocked
landshark
@@Aussie_Axe the petroleum patroller
@@BRNG2042 banger
That's not how subclasses work, that's just a playstyle/gimmick, subclass would be Dragon Fury which drastically changes how Pyro shows, drastically switches around his strengths and weaknesses etc
@@danielsurvivor1372 I don't think they were being serious when calling it a subclass
The pyro mirror match evolves yet again
Valve wanted to buff the gas passer but didn’t want to give anyone the idea that they would be doing balance changes again so they just called it a “fix” instead. The gas passer not comboing with the neon annihilator was clearly intentional not a bug
"How did they not know?"
Obviously they DID know, and they chose not to until now. Just because we think it makes sense doesn't mean that it makes sense to them, or that we are even right.
Man if only pyro got a way to deal good damage at melee range
Yeah lol, I tried it out and was like "okay, this is cool, I kinda like it... but _I'm a Pyro._ I have a _flamethrower_ and _melee is usually janky as shit._ "
@@NiiRubraDealing with other pyro's:
And shotgun aint always reliable for that
The gaspasser is officialy, not the worst weapon in the game
WHOOOOO, yeah baby, a weapon tweak in our update!
the screeching was so loud I thought it was fire alarm
I'm more impressed by the fact jungle inferno was 7 years ago. Man I always referred to myself a new player but nahhhh we're fucking fossils in this game wtf 💀💀
The weird thing is, I just heard about this bug.
VALVE TIME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE GOOD BUT YOU CAN'T STAY NERFED FOREVER
the real plot twist is jungle inferno being 7 years old. I can feel myself aging in real time.
waiting on the 2024 election candidate tier list
wait this would be fire
Be honest, would you vote pyro for president?
Make Pyros Great Again
Better late than never I suppose
Using the gas passer the last few weeks was worth it
7 years
when you said jungle inferno update was 7 years ago i had a mild panic attack
Petition to call this new combo "the gaswacka"
(In reference to the bushwacka)
Gas passer now going to cost a fortune
Pyroshark is now PyroCroc, short bursts of incredible damage in exchange for being barely active 90% of the time.
for me it's less that they didn't know and more that it wasn't intentional in the first place
I love the hit sound effect of grub hollow knight
pyro finally has jarate and bushwacka
Being so hard to tell if the combo didn't work cause of a never patched glitch or because they actually just didn't want it to be a thing until now is the most valve moment ever
I've just recently read that on wiki and thought it was intensional. And now they say it was a bug?!
land sharks here we come!!!
PYROSHARK BUFF????
I've never heard a voice that sounds so much like the nerd emoji
would bet its being phrased as a bug fix so they dont have to do a rebalance thing
Finally
Useful gaspasser
This really changes alot about the game... Reminds me of another weapon which has the same effect!!!
We rise from the sewers as the pyrolandsharks!
Such a non update seeing how it's only 1 swing that crits, the moment they burn is the moment the crits stop.
idk man 150 damage is not really smth to scoff at
it’s 150 + Afterburn… plus there’s always another swing
150 plus afterburn is crazy
@@Aussie_Axemore than 208 damage in a pinch
@@Nykomil two swings
Why couldn't they just say they buff it. Jfc
Oh god the pyrosharks are evolving
I’ve been using phlog gas passer Homewrecker for a bit now. Time to change my melee.
BLOODY HELL DUDE IT'S NOT THAT GAS PASSER FIX WE WANTED SIONCE JI UPDATE
DON'T GIVE US FALSE HOPES
You cannot escape gyas
G g gyas gyas g g gyas
im surprised by the lack of MvM comments
strange gas passer prices finna go up (trust)
Great! PyroSharks have evolved into walking on land! RISE MY BRETHREN!!
Homie chill, a contractor is helping to make these update, most likely he didn't know
this is gonna be a game changer
Holy shit they fixed two weapons with one fix
Interesting change.
Now fix the Amputator's broken regen Valve! That shit broke from the moment regen changed.
What's my HelluvaVerseTuber doin' here TF2bing? Variety Content? On THIS Platform?!
OH GOD THEY HAVE LEGS
Yes !!!!!!!!!!
LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait wait wait, you mean to tell me for 7 YEARS Valve thought that you could crit with the gas passer and neon? Valve that is just unbelievably embarassing
Jesus, what a soy voice lmao
This is what every previous nothing update should have been. This is nothing more than the bare minimum, and in my opinion shouldn't be praised without a reminder of how long Valve has left us to rot.
thank you!!! we gotta make sure valve cant get lazy again
Now they just to decrease the charge time by like half and the gas passer will actually be worth a damn!!! -_-
i dunno man you’re able to drop 5 classes with a single hit if you manage to combo them, and with 2 hits you can 1 shot every class (excluding overhealed heavies)
This makes it d e c e n t ig
Pyro gets another buff yet heavy is A posing in the corner covered in cob webs and banana peels
Still KINDA meh since only the first swing is a crit
Nah there is no way that was actually a glitch for that long. It must have been an actual fix which they called a glitch so that the community doesn’t expect them to rebalance weapons from now on
Where is your apology tour yap?
jungle inferno part 2
better late then never
It took them 7 years to fix this :|
How does it compare to the standard puff and sting ;-;
156 damage + afterburn for 10 seconds that even affects enemy pyros.
dont fix: no mad players cuz they cant remember such a thing
fix: BUUUUU BUUUU ITS BEEN 7 YEARS WHY FIX NOW
Why, are you nto happy
Classic valve
A BALANCE CHANGE OH MY GOD
also yes i agree with this video
Grubs of pain are funny
Reindoonicorn :3
Pyroshark buff
what is that hit sound effect
Jesus CHRIST
you sound like young shounic
better late than never i guess
Bro you sound like Edd
Wait it didn't before?
"fixxed"... the neon not critting gas passer was intentional?!
what do you mean fixxed, what do you mean "it was always supposed to do this"
eto... bleh!
Ahhahahaha THIS IS HYSTERICAL
Please don't male tbe neon annihalator more op
it’s not that good only like 3 maps have large pools of water
“Please don’t male tbe neone annihalator more op” this melee’s as situational as the third degree, what are you on about
Lmao
u r mr gay
oh wow pyro getting yet an another reason to be completely insufferable how great 🙄
We found the braindead sniper main fellas
“Pyro is insufferable” mfs when you stand near a sentry (they suddenly vanish)
find god both of you
@@jobelplayedminecraft3700 this is tf2. The second piss jars became a part of combat was when god considered a second flood
@@Spencer_TheSpender unintelligible