How To: Re-Wire a Riding Lawn Mower
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Push Button Ignition (Newer models may require more wiring for anti-backfire solenoid)
A really simple wiring system that will charge your battery. Great for use on racing lawn mowers, and off road mowers who want to bypass all safety switches.
This is a very sturdy and well built mower. I thought I wouldn't like the foot operated speed control but after one use ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTZSPVwJFBv2hORqhQamtxi-tAe5K2EtC , I can't believe I ever had one without it. It drives like a car with an automatic transmission. Easy to adjust mowing speed according to grass depth/thickness. I have yet to get used to the long throw of the blade engagement lever but kind of get why it is that way. It allows you to hold mowing for short moments if you need. The engine seems very substantial and the frame has very little flex, both adding up to an impressive package. All my previous tractors were 18 to21 hp with 42in decks. This one is 23/46. I mow about 1.5 acres about every 5 days here in Alaska and that mowing time has been reduced by about 20%, partly due to the very tight turning radius. No loop arounds lol. Hour meter, cruise control, reverse mowing capability,deck cleanout and easy assembly all add up to a very well thought out tractor.
Than you for taking the time to create and post this vid. I had been struggling to fix the ignition system on a little tractor and your explanation was enough to gederdun!
Worked like a champ thanks to you and the diagram. Much appreciated as the 35 year old Murray rides again.
@mark16443 no problem! I'm glad it worked out for you
not sure what type of diode, try going to radio shack and getting a few for 12v and wire it in
@mark16443 some of them, yes
u are the best. love Maine.
thanks i gotta do this with my MTD using a jumper wire now
I have a Kohler command 14.5hp and the Coil kill is white and there's 2 wires in the fly wheel yellow and black
awesome, thank you sir
sorta ogg subject of the vidio but can you take the govener out of a 20hp mower
I have and aposed twin were would the alternator wire be
I have watched probably 10-12 rewiring videos and you by far made it look so easy. Best video yet
Same. This is the video explained exactly how I needed it.
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Make sure the solenoid has a good ground, needs bare metal where it mounts. and make sure all the safety switches are in the proper position.
Like others have said the best video I've watched so far on the subject. No useless babbling about what a safety switch is and endless rattling on about BS nobody cares about!! Thanks man!
Best video I've seen so far. Simple and to the point. Stays on topic, no talking about family, pets, or life in general. And not 45 minutes long!!!
one of the best rewire videos I have come across.
the 2 wires come from the stator, which is like an alternator... there usually isn't a regulator, but I have messed with anything that new so I dont know for sure
@Otaruihc Thanks man! to answer you q, No, the alternator does like a trickle charge to the + of the battery, only when its running. And the alternator on these motors isn't like what you see on a car. it's stationary. and its wire is hooked up to the side of the solenoid that has constant power. the fuse should be between the alt charge wire and the batt+ terminal. I donno if I put it there or not. Id have to go look, and it's not here right now.
Incredible. Exactly the info I needed. Thank you so much!
you can unscrew fuel cut off solenoid out of the bottom of the carb, and there is a little rubber plunger on the end of it. Get a nice pair of snips and cut it off. then screw it back in and snip off the wires.
done
Thank you for making a rats nest seem so simple to fix.
Sorry i wasnt paying complete attention to the video now that i watched it again i better understand it now. Thanks for helping me out with my build.
Great video, got my old Lawnflte 504 running for the first time since I picked it up off eBay. Bypassing all he crazy safety switches and simplifying the loom and wham it started. Totally made my day Cheers man.
just use one of the wires to charge the battery, and the other should go to your headlights. The wires that go into the carb are for an electric fuel cut off, you can unscrew that thig out of the bottom of the carb, and there is a little rubber plunger on the end of it. Get a nice pair of snips and cut it off. then screw it back in and snip off the wires.
I followed your wiring instructions and bypassed the safety switches, and cut my foot off the first time I cranked the mower. I'm suing!
Just kidding. Your video helped me immensely! I never understood the purpose of all those safety switches, except for the seat switch. It makes sense if you fell off, so the mower wouldn't keep going and run over something or drive itself into the street. But the others seem pointless. I mean, I'm pretty sure if I'm about to crank my mower I'm going to have my foot on the brake and the transmission in neutral. I am also pretty sure I know the blades would start spinning immediately if I cranked it with the mower deck down and the blades engaged. But we live in a world full of idiots with lawyers on speed dial...
Again, thanks for helping me get my free mower running with your excellent information! Next step: toggle switch for the headlights. Not that I'll ever mow in the dark, but I use my mowers for hauling stuff too, like logs and such, and moving my teardrop camper around the property.
awesome man! I'm glad I could help.
I also hate the little nancy-boys that are scared of there own shadow... Drives me crazy.. lol
Fearlessfront Thanks so much I got volunteered into doing this and have no clue how thanks so much!
FearlessFront (Todd Christopher) I have a red and green wire coming off my solenoid which one do I use
@koolforever1 Oh my god! are you sure u got it right? there should only be like 2 or 3 wires coming out of the engine. the one under the flywheel goes to the + battery side of the solenoid (not the side that goes to the starter) the black one goes to the toggle, and then to ground, and take power from the + batt run it to our button, then to the small terminal on the solenoid
Fearless! Thanks for that wiring diagram. I just used it on my craftsman rear engine rider.
Thanks again man!
@blackduckslayers the red and whit wires are alternator hook ups. you should use one as a recharge, and the other for headlights. the push button gets power from your bat. and sends a small signal to your solenoid, causing it to engage and kick on the starter. sounds like you might have a positive wire contacting a ground if it's smoking.
I have two wires from the strator, which are black and yellow. what goes to what?
ryan derengowski usaly the black is changing and yellow is for your headlights. But not always. Start your engine and use a test light the one that lights up the light brighter is for your headlights. Hope this helps
Not 100% sure for that one, but if those 2 wires have one rectangular plug, then thats probably the right one. you want to hook the battery to the wire that has the diode in line with it... look at the 2 wires and one will have a bulge in the heat shrink tubing, thats the diode
Dude you're AWESOME!! NOW my mower cranks every time AND the battery charges now. Thank you so much for such a helpful video bro
try this:
The wires that go into the carb are for an electric fuel cut off, you can unscrew that thing out of the bottom of the carb, and there is a little rubber plunger on the end of it. Get a nice pair of snips and cut it off. then screw it back in and snip off the wires.
thats it
Great job, and you did all that without cussing, Thanks
The wires that go into the carb are for an electric fuel cut off, you can unscrew that thig out of the bottom of the carb, and there is a little rubber plunger on the end of it. Get a nice pair of snips and cut it off. then screw it back in and snip off the wires.
all done!
What if the motor has a fuel shut off solenoid on the bowl. Does that go to switched or hot side?
This goes to the switched 12V. But not on the starter solenoid! You need a seperate ignition switch, you hook it op to the input terminal of the starter solenoid, and the other end goes to the fuel shut off. Once you flick the switch you'll allow the dancing pixies to reach the fuel shut off solenoid and it'll open, letting fuel through
I'd reccomend not using it. Just cut the plunger off and put it back in and don't wire it in.
+1 on what Tj said I had one on my 17.5 briggs and just ground the plunger off and cut the wires it's just another headache to mess with imo
AR1G3 is right. i had one, and if you don't put a switch on it, it'll slowly flood and/or hydrolock the engine
Snake Doc if it’s that new that it has that many electronics, throw it over the hill. It’s junk. Unless you can make your own which is actually pretty much simple. The hard part is being able to mix the air and fuel properly.
@TheElgorr the push button gets its power from the + batt, then goes to the small terminal on the solenoid. the big red cable goes from the batt +, to one side of the solenoid, the the other large red cable goes from the other big pin on the solenoid, to the starter.
Thank you very much for making this video!! I followed your steps and mid way found a way to keep an original switch (no need to add those two switches that you're mentioning). Regardless, couldn't have gotten it done without this video. Thank you again!
Can you tell me how you kept the original key switch
@@codyswilley at the 41 seconds mark, he has a diagram, a regular lawn tractor switch can work with that diagram (no need to put a toggle), you just have to wire it correctly. Match the switch's diagram to the one in this video.
@@Giorgio_Rampa I just finished it about 10 mins ago. Suoer easy if you just use your mind. I appreciate it anyway. I bought this craftsman lawnmower. And somebody put a Kohler 16hp engine on it and they literally had 3 wiring harnesses together. I already fixed it and mowed with it.
@@codyswilley glad you got it to work! 👍🏽
@@Giorgio_Rampa only thing I'm not sure of is the 2 wires that come off of the stater. A black one and a green one. The black one had a diode but it was busted when I got it. I hooked it up correctly but the green one I hooked up to solenoid and when I tried starting it it would hum under the flywheel. I unhooked the green one and it runs good. Dont know if it will charge the battery but it runs good lol
@LEE100462 right, same as I said b4, the BIG red cable goes from the starter to the solenoid only. one of the alternator wires (doesn't matter which one) goes to the BATTERY + side of the solenoid (not the starter cable side), and the other one goes to the headlights or whatever.
could be a bad battery, how old is it? they only last a few years if you take care of them. Also double check that your charging wire goes to the + battery side of the solenoid, not the side with the wire that goes to the starter.
@Jediimastera Drain the gas, unscrew the thing with the wires in it (its a fuel shut off), and there should be a little spring loaded rubber plunger thing on the top, snip that bitch off, and put it back in, snip off the wires and your good to go!
@borntoberebel12 the bigger wire should help. also check your ground on the solenoid, it grounds where it bolts to the frame. make sure the metal is clean. try tapping the solenoid or starter a little bit too, some times they get stuck.
@PolarisJD anything with 12v with a switch, so you don't leave it on and drain the batt...
OR you can unscrew that little thing out the bottom and cut the top thingy off there and put it back in.... no power needed
@TRcustomengineering really? i don't see how that would work.. if you were to run all the power through the push button, it would melt.. unless I'm way off. I usually see electric diagrams that don't charge the battery.
It might not be able to keep up after long periods of time. If you ran at a high idle all the time you would be fine. I have mine hook up to the battery, but they are LED so they draw less power
it's probably one of your safety switches malfunctioning... Either figure out which one it is, or re-wire it. It's most likley grounding out your coil all the time so it's not going to spark
@z54177 it will just be really fast and it will wear out quicker. if you have a few spares then go for it. if not, then you may want to scale it back if you want to be riding it next summer
@67RcodeFairlane does it shut off immediately? or die out slowly? if it's slowly, my guess is an engine problem, if it shuts down immediately, then I would guess it's a malfunctioning safety switch.
just one of those wires from under the flywheel will go to the + battery terminal (or the battery terminal side of the solenoid, the other should go to your headlights. Dont ground them
you have to feed it 12v for the engine to get fuel. its a cut off. you dont want to always feed it 12v tho, you will kill the battery. put it on a switch or something
If you only have spark on one side of your coil, then I would bet the coil is dead. But I would research that a little more because those coils aren't cheap
@LEE100462 red goes to the battery + like in this video, the other wire is for headlights, if you don't have them, then you can just cut it off and leave it.
@AztocGold I would check craigslist ask neighbors, friends, family everyone... just get the word out your looking for one, eventually one will find you!
@fattypipemuarry either splice off of the charge wire (if you only have one) or use the white wire that comes out of the top cover with the red wire.
@TheRUSSELLBOY if the battery is low it will click like that. Or maybe your solenoid is bad? what happens when you jump the solenoid with a screwdriver?
@dugan978 as long as it's not live then yeah. if you ran the wire from the alt to the batt cable, then you shouldn't need that wire with the fuse at all.
this mod would bypass all the saftey switches. If you hook up the alternator, make sure you keep the diode in place, or it will have a meltdown
the lights hook to the other alt wire, or if split off of the one u'd use to charge the batt, and run it to a switch then to the headlights.
@z54177 It must be an mtd varidrive pulley system under there? If so they're ok for modding, not the best, but still better then a hydrostatic.
@scottcuccio this is intended to bypass all the safety switches. if you wire it this way it will run, no matter what, until you kill it.
this is if you want to bypass all safety switches, and get rid of the key switch. A lot of the time, the key switch will stop working
@pivotboy63 you must have solenoid if you want to stop frying switches. or get a switch capable of switching really high amperage
if the battery wont hold a charge then it the battery, if its not charging of the mower, then its probably got a bad alternator.
well, you dont hook those to the push button, one of those wires goes to the battery +, and the other goes to headlights.
@brad45201 You'd have to buy whats called a teather switch, and wire it up in place on the toggle, or you could have both.
there should be one with a diode in it, it should have a small bulge in it. hook that one up to the charging system
make sure you didn't cut off the diode, which it sounds like you might have... get one from radio shack and wire it in
it should have a diode in line of the stator wire. make sure you didn't cut it off before you wire up the new piece.
unless it's higer voltave , than no... does the charging wire have a diode in it? if not, you need one immediately!
You might be able to splice the saftey switch into the coil kill wire... Not really sure without trying it myself
yes, or run the other to your headlights. just dont cut the diode off behind the connector, if it has one there.
not sure.... one of the wires should have bulge in it, it's the diode. that one will go to the battery
@TheRUSSELLBOY either you battery is dead, the solenoid has a bad ground, or the solenoid could be bad.
@TheRUSSELLBOY it's a + wire, but yeah. it passes though one side and goes to the solenoid switch wire.
just use one of them for a charging wire, and the other should go to your head lights if you have any
I believe it will, but I'm not 100% sure. As long as you find the alt wires, you should be all set
@z54177 I honestly don't know... probably not much. But I would look it up on google or something.
@muddovalrc what is it not doing? can you get it started? or is it that you can't shut it down?
@z54177 holy crap! you may want to got with a 3-4" on the back, you dont want to kill it.
@dugan978 is it an ohv? and does it have wires coming out of the bottom of the carb also?
@TheAudioCenter if youve got a heavy duty switch, then yeah. this way is cheap and safe
@Tristan102100 its either a bad solenoid, or the solenoid isn't grounded well enough.
sound's more like it's grounding out somewhere... It shouldn't heat up from charging
I don't think so, those honda riding mowers are waaaay different than these ones
@dugan978 so you have two sets of wires coming out near the starter? or one?
a winch would add a lot of weight, which might make it easier to get stuck.
What about wires goihg to the side of the carburator. Do you need any hookup here to anything? Briggs 14.5
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just wire the positive headlight wire to the charging wire. thats it
run some jumper cables from a battery and clamp the ground to frame and hot directly to the bolt on starter, if the starter doesnt turn over its a bad starter. if its turning over but not cranking check for spark. pull out sparkplug and touch the tip to motor and turn over starter, you should see spark jumping from the electrode on sparkplug
pulley swapping a hydro is not a good thing. it won't last long
I know this is very late for a comment but this helped alot this is one of the only videos I could find to rewire my mudmower fast and simple
no, but it definitely sound's like something is wired wrong.
@z54177 not sure on that one... i hope it doesn't still do it
none that are really any good, most are too long, or plastic
I would hook it to a separate switch that runs to 12 volts.
@z54177 is it hooked to the small terminal on the solenoid?
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not sure, but you should be able to get the mag rebuilt
I donno, some good quality stuff for use outdoors.
@akcender no, its a switch thats open or closed.