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@HipyoTech I’ve seen the UA-cam short already but could you do a full video review on the 8bitdo keyboard I wanna know what you think about it since I’m planning on picking one up
I just want to understand why companies like this spend money on developing bad software instead of just slapping on the standard software that everyone uses and that just works
They're just trying to bring people into their ecosystem. Some people are silly and might think that they should buy other products from the same company so that everything is on the same software.
I mean, nothing is gonna be perfect for any price, but this is a $200 prebuilt board upcharged to $500. $500 is the price for an artisan custom keyboard, not a prebuilt gaming board with pointless features like changing the firmness or a super sharp screen.
This! for 300+ ish you can get a vintage style model F, a actual model M is 200. I think someone is even working on a keyboard with GD display under it. I thought I read that'd be 400ish. Asus's ROG line for motherboards, mice, and computers are, well, low quality to be nice.
More like 9. My Yunzii B75 was $56 shipped and it's great for the price. Take away the $5 clip and lubed stab service and it would be $459 for 9 of them, which would be much better than this single keyboard. You could have 9 different switch combinations at your disposal..
This is one of the longer videos I've watched that focused on a single keyboard. I enjoyed it a lot. The video didn't drag, it felt like every section you discussed was necessary so time flew by. Excellent video!
also Akko has a 75% volume knob 8khz wired/1khz wireless hall effect rapid trigger keyboard for $150, i got it for $117 on sale. I like it more than my wooting and is the only wireless HE kb i know of
I agree a $500 “gamer” keyboard with no rapid trigger is crazy. But this is really for someone who doesn’t want to get into modding, and just wants a high end keyboard without doing any work. It’s a good keyboard other than the huge omission of rapid trigger.
@@bren.r it is for the average gamer and person. Most gamers are probably spending $100 or less on their keyboards and really serious gamers still probably aren’t spending more than $200. I know most pro players use a keyboard that costs well under $100 according to pro settings website tracker. You are not the norm if you think this isn’t high end.
@@bikeman1431tbh lots of people like board without numpads either for portability or aesthetics, and the inclusion or exclusion of a numpad has nothing to do with cutting costs because honestly the money saved from shortening the length of the PCB is marginal
The reason most gamer keyboards use north-facing-LEDs is, because you are really hard-pressed to find shine-through Keycaps for south-facing LEDs. Saw many topics where ppl are searching ones for their Keychron Q1 which has south facing LEDs.
@@Frizzyy Given that the point of shine-through is just to be able to read the legends in a dark room, no it's fine. Is it as pretty if it's dim? No. Is it still functional in the way it needs to be? Yes. RGB only really exists because they were already putting LEDs on keyboards for visibility, and when addressable RGB LEDs became common/cheap enough they could easily incorporate them.
@@CptJistuce That's really debatable. Functionally they help with readability in dark lighting towards why Logitech and other productivity-oriented keyboard manufacturers use backlighting
Lol, yes, it can. Specifically if you uninstall and then try to reinstall it. I also don't need to check shit... that was on my old system. Not a chance in hell I'm putting that garbage on my pc again... especially not just for a keyboard.
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@@JustAFan444 I've got roughly 8 ROG devices, all with Aura Sync capability. Never has it "broken" Win 11. Sounds like memory instability to me...It's worth noting that if you've got software that polls the system a fair bit it exposes these things quickly.
Asus AC is truly the worst software, period. We still have an original Azoth we love, put Morandi in it over a year ago and one of my son keeps using it over all the customs I have on display that I'm not using. Bottom line is that if I want to put decent caps, GMK Honor Dark would look good, on my $500 keyboard I have to also replace the switches... might as well have ordered a Freya or I could get a maxed out Sonnet. I would buy this for $350 because we like the original so much and because I'm a goob and spend too much money on keyboards... but not $500. Great review as always! You are the first I have seen actually test the cherry caps on the snow switches and for me that is HUGE.
I'm not even a gamer, just someone who is new to and suddenly hype on mechanical keyboards after purchasing the YUNZII X71 but I've enjoyed hours of your video reviews and I've learned a lot, thanks!!
10:00 C'mon seriously? Are you really complaining about gaming keyboards having shine-through key caps? They're gamers not typist! Some people rely on illumination on their key caps to type. Heck I'm a writer and I get infuriated sometimes because its just so damn difficult to find shine-through key caps. Worse still some switches completely blocks the LED from shining through. Like, WHAT'S THE POINT OF AN RGB KEYBOARD IF THE LIGHTS NOT EVEN GOING TO SHINE THROUGH MY BLACK JWK SWITCHES??? Also, not everyone on this Earth is able to type on their keyboard blind you know. That shine through really helps okay hey I'm sorry rant over :X
While I think HE is better for some gaming circumstances, its pretty disingenuous to say the wooting smokes this in every way - the typing experience on HE is still pretty inferior compared to mechanical switches, and the boards build quality is stellar.
I was looking at keyboards today and out of all the 30 keyboards that were on display, I fell in love with this one! Then I looked at the price and I was like 'holy shit...' ($350 in my country) and walked away. Now I'm here watching reviews to see if it's worth it haha
I got my Wooting One from Kickstarter in like 2017 for 130$. Couple months ago I finally replaced 1 switch under my D key that was getting wobbly with one of the included 8x replacement optical switches in the box (4x tactile 4x smooth) At this rate I won't need another KB, but if/when I do, it'll be a Wooting.
I was watching this wondering about the software because Ive been having issues with Razer Synapse and head desked as soon as you said the Asus software basically isnt any better. Love the attention to detail and the honesty!
Just got a Keychron Q5 Pro. 6+ pounds of machined aluminum. Sounds amazing. Feels fantastic to type on. White case. $230. I can't imagine how this keyboard could be worth more than twice the price.
Oh man its like the perfect 10/10 dive but end up landing on its face with the price… crazy how smaller brands can offer so much more for so much less! Great video ❤❤❤
Great video Hipyo. I don't know if I'd ever buy myself a $500 pe-built keybaord from a gaming company, but this is one of the best review videos I've seen on a keyboard. You were clear, touched on everything I could want and I watched it all the way through. Well done!
I really don't see the big issue on north-facing rgb. Yes it may have some interference, but it is minor and this keyboard is not exclusively made for custom keyboard enthusiasts. It is a gaming keyboard and north facing rgb is better for shine through. South facing can work for shine through, but they have to be incredibly bright or you need the right keycaps.
I don't think people realize that the 'right keycaps' for south-facing would be awkard as hell, because all the legends will need to shift to the bottom as well.
Thanks for the Review Dude. It definitely gave us a heads-up prior to Deciding if Buying it or Not. 😁I agree the PRICE is way to high. Considering the Premium Quality of this keyboard, I'd say the PRICE should be around $350 to $400. 😁👍👍
I don't quite know why.. guess I was just being brand loyal for having an Asus mobo, GPU, and mouse... But it was because of you I got the original Azoth. And without question it is by far the best major PC brand keyboard I've ever used. I've swapped the switches just like you did.. but I really liked it. It was super over priced (I paid $250 cad which was it on sale!), but it featured almost everything I would have done to it. Minus the switches, which after some lube they felt and sounded decent! As you mentioned in your review today though, I absolutely hate armoury crate. It's messy and very very laggy at all times. But it also puts everything together for my computer, overclocking, RGB control, and peripheral control to name a few. One final thing, wow. I wish I had contacts to send you for music your voice is insane and I'm loving your music. Congrats on the release.
ive offered to recode armory crate ive yet to hear from asus... i even gave them a preview of what i can immediately improve. Asus is on one lately... i still love them
This comment never ever gets old Wooting is realistically the best keyboard for gaming in my eyes. I have an Apex Pro Full. If you gave me a Wooting keyboard, I’m unsure if I could feel any difference anyways 😅
@@kleinkalibar7486 Blud doesn’t understand that the wooting can be modded and even when it isn’t modded, if you get it for the first time it’s actually a really good keyboard for the price plus all the features it has is actually beneficial for gamers, with rapid trigger and DSK, no keyboard is even close to beating wooting yet, if you want just a good quality sounding keyboard out of the box wooting definitely is it. Also, even if you didn’t want to use those gaming features, typing on the wooting is a solid 8/10. Hate it if you want but wooting is still better for the price. Now kiss me or stay single lil bro
@@phonthedon Why spend so much money on a plastic keyboard with garbage switches then spend even more to mod it when you can have a much better quality Akko HE board for 200 bucks. I don't care about the Asus at all, 500 USD is stupid money for that board and I pity everyone who pays that. That doesnt make the Wooting a good offer though. If you don't care about HE (why would you, you are not a pro gamer) a Neo 80 is better quality and sounding than the Wooting...same with the Rainy 75. But hey....at least you can brag at school that you got a leeeet gamer keyboard. 😉
I'm only half way through this video at this moment but honestly I would pay this price just for a wireless RGB keyboard with no awful light bleed between the keys!
Why yes, we can all laugh at the price.... but like... I have to respect Asus at this point. They have seen Hipyo being extremely critical of their products, and they are still supporting him.
everything i heard so far, another keyboard can do it better magnetic feet? mountain everest aluminium chassis? mountain everest screens? you get the point by now i can't stop laughing at how a 250$ keyboard (maximum price) outfeatures a 500$ keyboard
@HipyoTech do you recommend any keyboards straight out of the box that is super deep/creamy/thocky sounding? I dont know anything about modifying keyboards and much rather buy it with it ready!
Man, once i heard that there was an azoth sequel coming out, I held off on buying the OG Azoth for it. But after seeing the price, I just can't justify getting it anymore Edit: Ended up getting a Kiiboom Breeze 75. It sounds heavenly 😍
Its perfect, apart from software. For something much cheaper but still want asus, the strix scope ii 96 is better. Armoury crate works great, but you WILL have issues with aura sync
I have the regular Asus ROG Azoth. I absolutely love it. It might have some plastic on it but it's very well made, and heavy. With gateron Baby kangaroos 2.0, it's amazing
I’m new to the custom keyboard scene, what high quality key cap company would be good with the azoth north faced leds that wouldn’t ruin the sound & feel of the snow switches
Okay, i've watched a couple of your videos now and I noticed this instantly but really now I have to ask. Is this the guy from Oversimplified?! He sounds like him, he talks exactly like him, and the editing style is exactly the same!!! Somebody tell me im not just imaging things!
That "Boot on startup" Issue you mentioned is literally my main gripe against GoG (which is saying a lot given how laggy GoG is). That reason alone is enough to make me avoid an Asus keyboard, even if it was amazing and super cheap.
Putting the design on the inside of the keyboard reminds me of what designers do inside of microchips. Sometimes we will draw things in them, things only a designer at the company would even ever get to see, but they’re there. There may or may not be a microscopic little dinosaur in your electronics, and you’ll never ever get to see it unless you were employed by the company and got access to the archives of that design. Even then, you’d need to know where to zoom in and what layers to look at.
Did you etch anything offensive in a consumer product before? lol These are pre-built, but you can open them up to see, or change the amount of dampening (you can remove a layer to make it even softer).
Thanks for the detailed video man! Bottom line: if i don't care about the alluminium design and OLED screen does it really stands out from the already super priced Original Azoth? (with the NX Snow Switches) I mean, how much the Soft/Hard Gasket mode does make a difference to the typing feel/pressing sensitivity? Also i'm a lil bit concerned about linear switches in the first place since they tend to have a really sensitive actuation point..not sure about the NX Snow switches though...are they sensitive like a regular linear switches?
got the standard Azoth, did a tape and foam mod and improved gasket performance by loosening the screws. Excpet for armory crate its perfect. There is no reason I would upgrade to this one.
Meh, i'd rather buy the new Sonnet for that price. Speaking of SONNET, i don't think i ever seen reviewing SONNET on your channel! Is there any reason for it ? I know you mostly focus on 'budget' keyboards, but i'd love to see a Sonnet 2.0 review :)
i bought a MageGee SKY 81 with purple switches and switched my caps to the Womier Pudding Keycaps and I love it and I literally only paid like 60 bucks. Its a 5 layer gasket mounted board. No way in hell am i paying $500 for a keyboard
I’ve seen the UA-cam short already but could you do a full video review on the 8bitdo keyboard I wanna what you think about it since I’m planning on picking one up
Bro, who gives a crap about north facing LEDs? They are my personal preference tbh. Way better lighting performance. The light is directly below the lettering, thus you don't need a lot of it to get a good performance and visibility. There are keycaps which are made with that in mind, so you use stuff that is compatible and don't moan about stuff that isn't compatible. Like, am I insane or is it not reasonable to expect someone to watch for parts compatibility?
@@johanb.7869 that was my point, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. They work the best with north facing LEDs, can be of great quality and are imo essential for certain applications. Such as RGB keyboards with visible key legend. The whole "south facing" crap is purely snobbery of the highest tier, considering that it's 2024. It's one of those things that are a hold over from old times
I'd be with you on the hate of north facing leds if it wasn't for the fact that no one anywhere seems to make shine through caps for south facing leds outside of overpriced etsy shops. and I do not mean keycaps with the letters on the side, those are something else imo, but there are no shine throughs where the legends are on the south side of the top of the keycap to take advantage of the leds location. even companies that seem to only make boards with south facing leds only produce keycaps for north facing ones, it's honestly ridiculous, so until there are good shine throughs for south facing leds I'd say you need to tone down the hate a bit for north facing ones lol. and yes, I know most people into keyboards are touch typists and thus do not need shine throughs, but for those of us who have hybrid typing styles or just hunt and peck but still want good boards, shine through is nice and handy, plus it looks nice at night. edit: Actually, you know, you pointed out in this video that you make keycaps Hippyo so you could actually be the one to plug this odd hole in the market. I know you don't like shine throughs yourself but for the people that do if you made keycaps that are quality shine through with the legends on the lower half of the cap(not the side) I know there are a ton of people who would buy them myself included. I have found forum posts going back almost a decade of people looking for south facing shine throughs but again no one seems to want to make them, so please, be the one to plug that hole in the market
from everything I can see in that video, the "Machined" part of the build seems to be a quick pass on some sheet aluminum and a quick brush pass to make it look like residual tool marks from an endmill that would be way too small for any sort of production rate. So either they're wasting their manufacturers time and that's why it's $500, or more likely it costs them $40 a board and they're taking a what? $400 mark up?
I keep seeing, including in this awesome video, that keycaps, like GMK, do not fit this keyboard, causing an annoying clicking sound. Can someone, please tell me what are the best keycaps that will work, without any modding required? If I spend this much on a keyboard, then I want to make it unique to myself, not to mention I do not care very much for the included keycaps. Or, better yet, perhaps there is a keyboard that is equally as good, if not better that someone might want to recommend in it's place, at around or below the same price.
An important question about the media control knob: are the pause/play and volume control really on different tabs? So you have to cycle through from one to the other and back, if you want to change them?
Thx for the review, Overall to expensive but we not talking ferrari expensive either, the fact that the hard switch doesnt work off the box and LED not bright enough big no no IMO . I own Azoth and the original keycap mid way between cherry and OEM is awesome in every way possible ( I swapped them for the look and chose OEM but I still miss the original ones) . Other then personnal preference Is there a reason to go Cherry over OEM? I suppose the same problem with the middle row happens with every other profiles like XDA etc. ?
Please go from this expensive keyboard to to super cheap yet fully functional ak820 pro from epomaker x ajazz, then hipyo your task is to make it actually look nice
Wooting 80HE is coming out in Q4 2024 and has 8000hz polling. In addition they're in an "arms race" with Razer to come up with new hall effect settings. See FPS (mostly CS) drama around Razer Snap Tap.
bro i’ve had an asus keyboard for 3 years and the keys are breaking and the software armory crate always ruined my windows installation where the only thing i can do is reinstall. don’t buy asus, atleast their keyboards
I love my OG Azoth, but it was already 250 USD (usually "on sale" for 200). The highly detailed machined aluminum base, carbon fiber plate, and color OLED screen are obvious expensive upgrades, BUT do those upgrades really make the new Azoth twice the keyboard that Asus is indirectly saying that the original Azoth is? 500 USD is a huge pill to swallow for mostly cosmetic improvements over the already expensive 250 for the original.
If you held one in your hands and gave it a 10 second test drive, I promise you can already tell that the Extreme should be significantly more expensive. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion whether it's worth the extra cost or not, but there is a massive difference in comparison.
Their software and drivers are a pain. Aura Creator, which manages the backlighting on keyboards, can cause a BSOD. In addition, the old Azoth still has problems with keys jamming (software side), a knob that clicks when you apply a little more force to an area where the keyboard rests, problems with device detection, or the fact that this OLED display is basically useless with their software. On top of this, all the functions in their app are poorly designed, macros require syncing and jumping between pages, which takes a while, information sent to the display can glitch, and the keyboard often forgets settings. I hope they've fixed these problems because there's really no point in getting a better version, as the old Azoth was decent and the changes made here are useless, but unfortunately if Asus' history is anything to go by, they don't fix their software. Perhaps this aluminium is harder than the magnesium used in the old version (this metal is basically butter and it gets scratched by plastic, and yes, the plastic used on the back is of better quality than this magnesium on the front...). You should make a comparison with the old version of this keyboard, as a pure review doesn't show any reason to buy a better version.
Hi may I suggest that you take a look at the Alienware Pro Wireless Keyboard (its a 75%) I bought one personally and was extremely happy with it. Would still love to know if there is room for improvement from you!
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Does asus always have expensive keyboards
I dont have money
I’m honestly not a fan, even if it was £200. £500 is mental
Can you do a lemokey L1 and L3 review pls? Love the content
@HipyoTech I’ve seen the UA-cam short already but could you do a full video review on the 8bitdo keyboard I wanna know what you think about it since I’m planning on picking one up
bro the price is crazy for this...
Corporate greed and rog tax
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i think i saw a keyboard that cost more than a ps5
I have a feeling only sponsored streamers will be using this thing.. it doesn't make any sense.
Nooooooo really????
Stupid price✅✅✅✅✅✅✅
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that price i can buy a lot keyboard
1 expensive and good one is better than 10 mediocre keyboard, this keyboard catch my eye
I just want to understand why companies like this spend money on developing bad software instead of just slapping on the standard software that everyone uses and that just works
Ego, i assume.
They're just trying to bring people into their ecosystem. Some people are silly and might think that they should buy other products from the same company so that everything is on the same software.
Imagine selling a $500 keyboard without qmk/via
@@moonvenuslunaimagine paying for a $500 keyboard and STILL having your data stolen from its software like they haven't gotten enough from u
@@edenem They can never have too much data. You can get a $100k car and still have your data stolen.
for 500$ it should be a perfect keyboard, which in this case is not
Not even close👎
No such thing as a perfect keyboard but sure as heck doesn't justify this price tag.
I mean, nothing is gonna be perfect for any price, but this is a $200 prebuilt board upcharged to $500.
$500 is the price for an artisan custom keyboard, not a prebuilt gaming board with pointless features like changing the firmness or a super sharp screen.
This! for 300+ ish you can get a vintage style model F, a actual model M is 200. I think someone is even working on a keyboard with GD display under it. I thought I read that'd be 400ish. Asus's ROG line for motherboards, mice, and computers are, well, low quality to be nice.
For five hundred bucks, the keyboard better offer sexual favors.
For $500 you can get 5 good budget keboards💀
More like 9. My Yunzii B75 was $56 shipped and it's great for the price. Take away the $5 clip and lubed stab service and it would be $459 for 9 of them, which would be much better than this single keyboard. You could have 9 different switch combinations at your disposal..
Or for actual gaming like the keyboard is intended to do, get wooting
hottake: and you wiil still just use one.
Or a used ps5 or even a decent PC, which can do more than typing
i rather buy a low-end graphic card or upgrade my other hardware tbh
This is one of the longer videos I've watched that focused on a single keyboard.
I enjoyed it a lot. The video didn't drag, it felt like every section you discussed was necessary so time flew by.
Excellent video!
@@phillipdonald3542 thank you, I really wanted to say everything and was scared people wouldn't watch that long
$500 but no rapid trigger is basically daylight robbery u could build a modded wooting for way lesser
also Akko has a 75% volume knob 8khz wired/1khz wireless hall effect rapid trigger keyboard for $150, i got it for $117 on sale. I like it more than my wooting and is the only wireless HE kb i know of
I agree a $500 “gamer” keyboard with no rapid trigger is crazy. But this is really for someone who doesn’t want to get into modding, and just wants a high end keyboard without doing any work. It’s a good keyboard other than the huge omission of rapid trigger.
@@colemanbarns4032Akko has a fake 8Khz that only runs just on wasd but other key they run at just measly 125hz.
@@phantom498this board is not high end by any stretch. Lmao.
@@bren.r it is for the average gamer and person. Most gamers are probably spending $100 or less on their keyboards and really serious gamers still probably aren’t spending more than $200. I know most pro players use a keyboard that costs well under $100 according to pro settings website tracker. You are not the norm if you think this isn’t high end.
ASUS: Here's a $500 keyboard, it's really nice.
Chinese keyboard brands: Here's an aluminum case keyboard for $27, and it's nicer than the ASUS one.
i got a 30$ chinese keyboard recently, and its even got a numpad
meanwhile they cant squeeze a numpad into 500$
@@bikeman1431 not everyone wants a numpad...
theres a reason smaller keyboards are so popular
Where? What's the name of the keyboard? 27?
@@bikeman1431tbh lots of people like board without numpads either for portability or aesthetics, and the inclusion or exclusion of a numpad has nothing to do with cutting costs because honestly the money saved from shortening the length of the PCB is marginal
@@bikeman1431 Numpad is not needed. E-gamers need a smaller keyboard to free more space for their mouse to move.
Would think twice at 150$, not even a second at 500$.
Depends on how good the keyboard is and how long it will last (price to performance and price to longevity)
go pickup the normal azoth. its really really nice
300$ is the maximum for it to be somewhat reasonable given how good it is imo, but 500??? They really missed the mark by pricing it terribly alone.
@@dominiorrr6510 are you aware there are keyboards which are far more expensive?
@@ayckm Yes and I am also aware that almost no one buys them
500$ is insane for a mid keyboard with the only thing going for it is build quality...
And even that's not all that!
Five hundred dollars is insane for a keyboard, full-stop.
And a lot of that premium build quality is for things you won't even see on a regular basis
To be fair its only flaw is the software and most people don't care about it all that much.
@@CptJistuce There are productivity input hardware that cost as much if not more. Ergonomic Split keyboards cost $300+
The reason most gamer keyboards use north-facing-LEDs is, because you are really hard-pressed to find shine-through Keycaps for south-facing LEDs.
Saw many topics where ppl are searching ones for their Keychron Q1 which has south facing LEDs.
Similar for the new NuPhy keyboards, too. The Halo series v2 is south-facing.
Makes sense , that being said If the RGP is not impressive on this spesific board doesn't that kinda make that useless ?
@@Frizzyy Given that the point of shine-through is just to be able to read the legends in a dark room, no it's fine. Is it as pretty if it's dim? No. Is it still functional in the way it needs to be? Yes. RGB only really exists because they were already putting LEDs on keyboards for visibility, and when addressable RGB LEDs became common/cheap enough they could easily incorporate them.
@@Lord_zeelBacklit keyboards were originally for the look-cool factor, not readability.
@@CptJistuce That's really debatable. Functionally they help with readability in dark lighting towards why Logitech and other productivity-oriented keyboard manufacturers use backlighting
Armory crate is a cursed piece of software.
fr and i dont even use it even tho i have asus product
My favorite part about Armory Crate is how it sometimes corrupts your Windows install when you try to remove it.
@@JustAFan444 No it doesn't. Sounds like you need to check your overclock stability.
Lol, yes, it can. Specifically if you uninstall and then try to reinstall it. I also don't need to check shit... that was on my old system. Not a chance in hell I'm putting that garbage on my pc again... especially not just for a keyboard.
@@JustAFan444 I've got roughly 8 ROG devices, all with Aura Sync capability. Never has it "broken" Win 11. Sounds like memory instability to me...It's worth noting that if you've got software that polls the system a fair bit it exposes these things quickly.
ROG tax not playing around 💀
your song sounds good but it doesn't have hall effect switches
Asus AC is truly the worst software, period. We still have an original Azoth we love, put Morandi in it over a year ago and one of my son keeps using it over all the customs I have on display that I'm not using. Bottom line is that if I want to put decent caps, GMK Honor Dark would look good, on my $500 keyboard I have to also replace the switches... might as well have ordered a Freya or I could get a maxed out Sonnet. I would buy this for $350 because we like the original so much and because I'm a goob and spend too much money on keyboards... but not $500. Great review as always! You are the first I have seen actually test the cherry caps on the snow switches and for me that is HUGE.
I'm not even a gamer, just someone who is new to and suddenly hype on mechanical keyboards after purchasing the YUNZII X71 but I've enjoyed hours of your video reviews and I've learned a lot, thanks!!
10:00 C'mon seriously? Are you really complaining about gaming keyboards having shine-through key caps? They're gamers not typist! Some people rely on illumination on their key caps to type. Heck I'm a writer and I get infuriated sometimes because its just so damn difficult to find shine-through key caps. Worse still some switches completely blocks the LED from shining through. Like, WHAT'S THE POINT OF AN RGB KEYBOARD IF THE LIGHTS NOT EVEN GOING TO SHINE THROUGH MY BLACK JWK SWITCHES???
Also, not everyone on this Earth is able to type on their keyboard blind you know. That shine through really helps okay hey I'm sorry rant over :X
I've never had a keyboard so far, I'm writing this review from a laptop keyboard
$500 is outrageous for a non HE keyboard. You can buy a top of the line custom wooting 80he for $200 less which smokes this keyboard in every way
While I think HE is better for some gaming circumstances, its pretty disingenuous to say the wooting smokes this in every way - the typing experience on HE is still pretty inferior compared to mechanical switches, and the boards build quality is stellar.
Wooting is no where near top of the line but yes, that is still better than this.
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@@Keeki549 Wooting is overrated .. and sucks
LMAO ... and NO .. Hall Effect switches will never feels or sounds as good as mechanical
@@kyosukeshidou1370 QK65 Classic HE switches sound great.
I was looking at keyboards today and out of all the 30 keyboards that were on display, I fell in love with this one! Then I looked at the price and I was like 'holy shit...' ($350 in my country) and walked away. Now I'm here watching reviews to see if it's worth it haha
I got my Wooting One from Kickstarter in like 2017 for 130$. Couple months ago I finally replaced 1 switch under my D key that was getting wobbly with one of the included 8x replacement optical switches in the box (4x tactile 4x smooth) At this rate I won't need another KB, but if/when I do, it'll be a Wooting.
As a programmer i do i do love textured pbt keycaps and i love the build quality here. 😍
But i''ll keep my Flare II animare longer 😝
I was watching this wondering about the software because Ive been having issues with Razer Synapse and head desked as soon as you said the Asus software basically isnt any better. Love the attention to detail and the honesty!
Armory Crate is generally terrible.
YOU FINALLY DID IT HIPYO, YOU FINISHED THE AULA F75 VIDEO
Just got a Keychron Q5 Pro. 6+ pounds of machined aluminum. Sounds amazing. Feels fantastic to type on. White case. $230. I can't imagine how this keyboard could be worth more than twice the price.
Hipyo, could you talk avout the wooting 80he when it comes out next month? Thank you.
Oh man its like the perfect 10/10 dive but end up landing on its face with the price… crazy how smaller brands can offer so much more for so much less! Great video ❤❤❤
Me with 25$ GameStop gs200 gaming keyboard 🤣
Great video Hipyo. I don't know if I'd ever buy myself a $500 pe-built keybaord from a gaming company, but this is one of the best review videos I've seen on a keyboard. You were clear, touched on everything I could want and I watched it all the way through. Well done!
Cast Buff *increase engagement*
I have an azoth.
I bought it because when they had it displayed...... it was just so perfect. So quiet yet tactile. :)
Video like 6 or something of asking hipyo to review the onn. Compact wireless keyboard
I really don't see the big issue on north-facing rgb. Yes it may have some interference, but it is minor and this keyboard is not exclusively made for custom keyboard enthusiasts. It is a gaming keyboard and north facing rgb is better for shine through. South facing can work for shine through, but they have to be incredibly bright or you need the right keycaps.
THANK YOU!!!!
I don't think people realize that the 'right keycaps' for south-facing would be awkard as hell, because all the legends will need to shift to the bottom as well.
I just wanna know what that giant thing on your desk at the beginning was. 😂😂😂
for real, please tell us what that is
Thanks for the Review Dude. It definitely gave us a heads-up prior to Deciding if Buying it or Not. 😁I agree the PRICE is way to high. Considering the Premium Quality of this keyboard, I'd say the PRICE should be around $350 to $400. 😁👍👍
Hey what's the big oversized keyboard and where can I get it?
I think it's the Redragon K605.
I don't quite know why.. guess I was just being brand loyal for having an Asus mobo, GPU, and mouse... But it was because of you I got the original Azoth. And without question it is by far the best major PC brand keyboard I've ever used. I've swapped the switches just like you did.. but I really liked it.
It was super over priced (I paid $250 cad which was it on sale!), but it featured almost everything I would have done to it. Minus the switches, which after some lube they felt and sounded decent!
As you mentioned in your review today though, I absolutely hate armoury crate. It's messy and very very laggy at all times. But it also puts everything together for my computer, overclocking, RGB control, and peripheral control to name a few.
One final thing, wow. I wish I had contacts to send you for music your voice is insane and I'm loving your music. Congrats on the release.
Bro do some cable management 😂
ive offered to recode armory crate ive yet to hear from asus... i even gave them a preview of what i can immediately improve. Asus is on one lately... i still love them
holy be jesus thats expensive
Wooting is still better
This comment never ever gets old
Wooting is realistically the best keyboard for gaming in my eyes.
I have an Apex Pro Full. If you gave me a Wooting keyboard, I’m unsure if I could feel any difference anyways 😅
@@browniex5120 that’s because it’s true
Said no one ever who actually uses decent keyboards. Stop falling for the gamer marketing bullshit and buy real keyboards.
@@kleinkalibar7486 Blud doesn’t understand that the wooting can be modded and even when it isn’t modded, if you get it for the first time it’s actually a really good keyboard for the price plus all the features it has is actually beneficial for gamers, with rapid trigger and DSK, no keyboard is even close to beating wooting yet, if you want just a good quality sounding keyboard out of the box wooting definitely is it.
Also, even if you didn’t want to use those gaming features, typing on the wooting is a solid 8/10. Hate it if you want but wooting is still better for the price.
Now kiss me or stay single lil bro
@@phonthedon Why spend so much money on a plastic keyboard with garbage switches then spend even more to mod it when you can have a much better quality Akko HE board for 200 bucks. I don't care about the Asus at all, 500 USD is stupid money for that board and I pity everyone who pays that. That doesnt make the Wooting a good offer though. If you don't care about HE (why would you, you are not a pro gamer) a Neo 80 is better quality and sounding than the Wooting...same with the Rainy 75. But hey....at least you can brag at school that you got a leeeet gamer keyboard. 😉
I'm only half way through this video at this moment but honestly I would pay this price just for a wireless RGB keyboard with no awful light bleed between the keys!
Why yes, we can all laugh at the price.... but like... I have to respect Asus at this point. They have seen Hipyo being extremely critical of their products, and they are still supporting him.
yeah it shocks me every time they come back, but it shows they really do care to a certain extent
I don't care about a company known for shitty customer service taking a liking to a UA-camr. I care about price to performance ratio.
@@ThisisDD to be fair that's mostly their us branch I I deal with their Taiwan branch who work on the products themselves
everything i heard so far, another keyboard can do it better
magnetic feet? mountain everest
aluminium chassis? mountain everest
screens? you get the point by now
i can't stop laughing at how a 250$ keyboard (maximum price) outfeatures a 500$ keyboard
500 for an ASUS is crazy even if it is the best ASUS
@HipyoTech do you recommend any keyboards straight out of the box that is super deep/creamy/thocky sounding? I dont know anything about modifying keyboards and much rather buy it with it ready!
I LOVE wrist rests, screw your opinion.
How is, "I can't use a wrist rest because it physically hurts me" an opinion?
Man, once i heard that there was an azoth sequel coming out, I held off on buying the OG Azoth for it. But after seeing the price, I just can't justify getting it anymore
Edit: Ended up getting a Kiiboom Breeze 75. It sounds heavenly 😍
Hipyo honestly you’re such a great UA-camr and will never let me down by entertaining me wth amazing content and lots of enthusiasm.
Its perfect, apart from software. For something much cheaper but still want asus, the strix scope ii 96 is better. Armoury crate works great, but you WILL have issues with aura sync
I have the regular Asus ROG Azoth. I absolutely love it. It might have some plastic on it but it's very well made, and heavy. With gateron Baby kangaroos 2.0, it's amazing
if the software was better i would buy this. I think it is beautiful in all black
I’m new to the custom keyboard scene, what high quality key cap company would be good with the azoth north faced leds that wouldn’t ruin the sound & feel of the snow switches
Song “try things” is actually pretty solid man!! Plesently surprised.
I agree, it seems like a wonderful build. I could just build or modify multiple boards for the same price and get some variety.
Okay, i've watched a couple of your videos now and I noticed this instantly but really now I have to ask. Is this the guy from Oversimplified?! He sounds like him, he talks exactly like him, and the editing style is exactly the same!!! Somebody tell me im not just imaging things!
That "Boot on startup" Issue you mentioned is literally my main gripe against GoG (which is saying a lot given how laggy GoG is). That reason alone is enough to make me avoid an Asus keyboard, even if it was amazing and super cheap.
I got it for half the price, i thought it was the regular price and still thought it was quite expensive
Putting the design on the inside of the keyboard reminds me of what designers do inside of microchips. Sometimes we will draw things in them, things only a designer at the company would even ever get to see, but they’re there. There may or may not be a microscopic little dinosaur in your electronics, and you’ll never ever get to see it unless you were employed by the company and got access to the archives of that design. Even then, you’d need to know where to zoom in and what layers to look at.
Did you etch anything offensive in a consumer product before? lol
These are pre-built, but you can open them up to see, or change the amount of dampening (you can remove a layer to make it even softer).
Wait until tech ytbers call it a budget gaming keyboard💀
I've heard so much about north-facing interference but I think this is the first time I've seen it demonstrated. Thanks.
Thanks for the detailed video man!
Bottom line: if i don't care about the alluminium design and OLED screen does it really stands out from the already super priced Original Azoth? (with the NX Snow Switches)
I mean, how much the Soft/Hard Gasket mode does make a difference to the typing feel/pressing sensitivity?
Also i'm a lil bit concerned about linear switches in the first place since they tend to have a really sensitive actuation point..not sure about the NX Snow switches though...are they sensitive like a regular linear switches?
Dang, those Redline keycaps look great on that board.
got the standard Azoth, did a tape and foam mod and improved gasket performance by loosening the screws. Excpet for armory crate its perfect. There is no reason I would upgrade to this one.
now asus should make flare 3 with that lcd screen - would be the ultimate keyboard
Meh, i'd rather buy the new Sonnet for that price. Speaking of SONNET, i don't think i ever seen reviewing SONNET on your channel! Is there any reason for it ? I know you mostly focus on 'budget' keyboards, but i'd love to see a Sonnet 2.0 review :)
This would be a really good 200-250 dollar keyboard.
i bought a MageGee SKY 81 with purple switches and switched my caps to the Womier Pudding Keycaps and I love it and I literally only paid like 60 bucks. Its a 5 layer gasket mounted board. No way in hell am i paying $500 for a keyboard
I’ve seen the UA-cam short already but could you do a full video review on the 8bitdo keyboard I wanna what you think about it since I’m planning on picking one up
Bro, who gives a crap about north facing LEDs?
They are my personal preference tbh. Way better lighting performance. The light is directly below the lettering, thus you don't need a lot of it to get a good performance and visibility. There are keycaps which are made with that in mind, so you use stuff that is compatible and don't moan about stuff that isn't compatible. Like, am I insane or is it not reasonable to expect someone to watch for parts compatibility?
And what's wrong with shine through key caps?🤔
@@johanb.7869 that was my point, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. They work the best with north facing LEDs, can be of great quality and are imo essential for certain applications. Such as RGB keyboards with visible key legend.
The whole "south facing" crap is purely snobbery of the highest tier, considering that it's 2024. It's one of those things that are a hold over from old times
for 500 dollars that wrist rest better be made out of solid gold
If they did a full size version of this, I'd be VERY tempted...
I'd be with you on the hate of north facing leds if it wasn't for the fact that no one anywhere seems to make shine through caps for south facing leds outside of overpriced etsy shops. and I do not mean keycaps with the letters on the side, those are something else imo, but there are no shine throughs where the legends are on the south side of the top of the keycap to take advantage of the leds location. even companies that seem to only make boards with south facing leds only produce keycaps for north facing ones, it's honestly ridiculous, so until there are good shine throughs for south facing leds I'd say you need to tone down the hate a bit for north facing ones lol.
and yes, I know most people into keyboards are touch typists and thus do not need shine throughs, but for those of us who have hybrid typing styles or just hunt and peck but still want good boards, shine through is nice and handy, plus it looks nice at night.
edit: Actually, you know, you pointed out in this video that you make keycaps Hippyo so you could actually be the one to plug this odd hole in the market. I know you don't like shine throughs yourself but for the people that do if you made keycaps that are quality shine through with the legends on the lower half of the cap(not the side) I know there are a ton of people who would buy them myself included. I have found forum posts going back almost a decade of people looking for south facing shine throughs but again no one seems to want to make them, so please, be the one to plug that hole in the market
from everything I can see in that video, the "Machined" part of the build seems to be a quick pass on some sheet aluminum and a quick brush pass to make it look like residual tool marks from an endmill that would be way too small for any sort of production rate. So either they're wasting their manufacturers time and that's why it's $500, or more likely it costs them $40 a board and they're taking a what? $400 mark up?
Just to say, from my experience armoury crate is actually pretty good, and your wanting aura creator for more in depth control of the ASUS Aura
I keep seeing, including in this awesome video, that keycaps, like GMK, do not fit this keyboard, causing an annoying clicking sound. Can someone, please tell me what are the best keycaps that will work, without any modding required? If I spend this much on a keyboard, then I want to make it unique to myself, not to mention I do not care very much for the included keycaps.
Or, better yet, perhaps there is a keyboard that is equally as good, if not better that someone might want to recommend in it's place, at around or below the same price.
So the keyboard is definitely not for me way overpriced for what I need! However, question for you what is your secondary monitor? Do you have a link?
An important question about the media control knob: are the pause/play and volume control really on different tabs? So you have to cycle through from one to the other and back, if you want to change them?
Hey hipyo could you please check out the bridge75. It looks good and worthy of the budget king imo
Love this videos, thanks a lot! Can I ask how to mod this keyboard? What keycaps and what switches make it even more premium?😮
You should review the bridge75 keyboard, i’ve heard good things about it 😁
8:44 fire, also really liked focus and how the sky looked
Can you please do a RK M75 review? And how to mod it to sound more deeper? If you have time, of course. Not much people are talking about it. 😅
Thx for the review, Overall to expensive but we not talking ferrari expensive either, the fact that the hard switch doesnt work off the box and LED not bright enough big no no IMO .
I own Azoth and the original keycap mid way between cherry and OEM is awesome in every way possible ( I swapped them for the look and chose OEM but I still miss the original ones) . Other then personnal preference Is there a reason to go Cherry over OEM? I suppose the same problem with the middle row happens with every other profiles like XDA etc. ?
Please go from this expensive keyboard to to super cheap yet fully functional ak820 pro from epomaker x ajazz, then hipyo your task is to make it actually look nice
I actually like textured keycaps. During long, intense gaming sessions, it’s nice to have keycaps that aren’t super slick.
500$ for a mecha keyboard nah it would have been understandable for hall effect switches or optical atleast
You should check something on the other end of the price spectrum:) For example Endorfy Thock with blacks - would love to hear your opinion:)
I can't believe hipyo is finally reviewing $500 keyboards.
I love shine through keycaps, because I can see the letters in dim lit room
Wooting 80HE is coming out in Q4 2024 and has 8000hz polling. In addition they're in an "arms race" with Razer to come up with new hall effect settings. See FPS (mostly CS) drama around Razer Snap Tap.
bro i’ve had an asus keyboard for 3 years and the keys are breaking and the software armory crate always ruined my windows installation where the only thing i can do is reinstall.
don’t buy asus, atleast their keyboards
Im ngl it would be dope if you could change the name on the weight
I love my OG Azoth, but it was already 250 USD (usually "on sale" for 200). The highly detailed machined aluminum base, carbon fiber plate, and color OLED screen are obvious expensive upgrades, BUT do those upgrades really make the new Azoth twice the keyboard that Asus is indirectly saying that the original Azoth is? 500 USD is a huge pill to swallow for mostly cosmetic improvements over the already expensive 250 for the original.
If you held one in your hands and gave it a 10 second test drive, I promise you can already tell that the Extreme should be significantly more expensive. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion whether it's worth the extra cost or not, but there is a massive difference in comparison.
Their software and drivers are a pain. Aura Creator, which manages the backlighting on keyboards, can cause a BSOD. In addition, the old Azoth still has problems with keys jamming (software side), a knob that clicks when you apply a little more force to an area where the keyboard rests, problems with device detection, or the fact that this OLED display is basically useless with their software. On top of this, all the functions in their app are poorly designed, macros require syncing and jumping between pages, which takes a while, information sent to the display can glitch, and the keyboard often forgets settings. I hope they've fixed these problems because there's really no point in getting a better version, as the old Azoth was decent and the changes made here are useless, but unfortunately if Asus' history is anything to go by, they don't fix their software. Perhaps this aluminium is harder than the magnesium used in the old version (this metal is basically butter and it gets scratched by plastic, and yes, the plastic used on the back is of better quality than this magnesium on the front...). You should make a comparison with the old version of this keyboard, as a pure review doesn't show any reason to buy a better version.
The price is insane. I wonder if they will make that in the white/silver version too?
Hi may I suggest that you take a look at the Alienware Pro Wireless Keyboard (its a 75%) I bought one personally and was extremely happy with it. Would still love to know if there is room for improvement from you!
This looks like a legit $250 keyboard. Maybe even the first one. And if it's ever on sale for 50% off, I'm interested.
The best part about ASUS products is the unboxing experience. Other brands could learn from that specifically.