Karen Read trial: Stunning new testimony in contentious murder case dividing Boston and captivating

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Did Karen Read kill her police officer boyfriend?

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  • @NottyAries
    @NottyAries 3 місяці тому +3

    Officer John O'Keefe was NOT hit by a vehicle. Period.
    So unless y'all think Karen Brett him up and hit him in his head with a blunt object, and scratched his arm, she's innocent. Stop thinking with your feelings and/or wallets. Use your brain, at least this one time.

  • @FOE_AM
    @FOE_AM 3 місяці тому +24

    The guy was found on their property, after there was a whole after-party. Higgins was texting Karen while she was with John & ignoring him...they never once did forensics cuz the home owners NEVER came outside. They are life long police officers & first responders. The guy supposedly was sleep & woke up & said he just never once felt like he could help....are you not interested in the death of a so-called DEAR FRIEND? The first thing I'm doing is checking on WHOEVER is there.

    • @LizInTheB
      @LizInTheB 3 місяці тому +2

      John O'Keefe and Brian Albert were not "dear friends". Albert testified that he knew who John was, but they didn't hang out together or anything.

    • @KatenJace
      @KatenJace 3 місяці тому +4

      @@LizInTheBthey all blathered on in that rehearsed to death and transparent “wishing he did” come in the house. As well as queen of mean in canton (j. McCabe) “my friend who I lOvEd!” (After her infamous google of Hos long…) they all came off as extremely disingenuous & disrespectful trying to claim any friendship with John when the texts all refer to him as “that guy “
      And even mccabes 911 call fails to identify him by name, or by profession. She also fails to communicate the severity. “A guy passed out on my lawn” fails to adequately describe what they were responding to by an epic ton.
      Even the Sullivan sisters don’t come off as truly caring about John and his well being. They used the time on the stand to low ball lame, unwarranted insults at Karen.

    • @stevenprice6957
      @stevenprice6957 3 місяці тому

      He dead gone by then. John that is. John never walked in that house. We know that. We know the defence have put lies up left right and centre and had them spinning around the media for 12 months. It actually should be aloud. The more I watch this particular case the more I believe that cases like this should not be televised. It’s too dangerous or it makes it more dangerous. That’s my belief anyway.

    • @dianeschulman5526
      @dianeschulman5526 3 місяці тому +1

      Her parents did not wake up when she called them just after 1am......

  • @DM-ev1sr
    @DM-ev1sr 3 місяці тому +3

    COMMONWEALTH CLAIMS " Move it along, nothing to see here"
    Brial Albert ( his home where OKeefe was found), had the BALLS, like Jen McCabe to come to court today.
    I am outraged and disgusted all at the same time

    • @WomanofSteele
      @WomanofSteele 3 місяці тому

      @@DM-ev1sr and he wore the exact same vest and tie smh

  • @KyleMadeira
    @KyleMadeira 3 місяці тому +3

    This describes mass cops FBI hired people and they all said it’s not a car victim

  • @richardtidd2738
    @richardtidd2738 3 місяці тому +7

    The Crooked Cops of Canton.

  • @KyleMadeira
    @KyleMadeira 3 місяці тому

    This describes mass cops

  • @kerrymedeiros509
    @kerrymedeiros509 3 місяці тому

    Yes she texted him all that but that still doesnt show me she killed him.

    • @houdiniwho
      @houdiniwho 3 місяці тому +1

      I guess you have never seen a drunk person on benzo’s rage?

  • @colettejaques2559
    @colettejaques2559 3 місяці тому +6

    POOR JOHN...EXPRESSING THINGS WERE NOT GOOD BETWEEN THEM FOR A WHILE...KAREN WAS ANGRY AND JEALOUS

    • @ashleybrown1666
      @ashleybrown1666 3 місяці тому +2

      Are you watching the same trial is the rest of the world?? Every couple has disagreements...does t mean you murder your partner. Every bit of evidence I have seen so far...😊

    • @NottyAries
      @NottyAries 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@ashleybrown1666No. The people that say KR is guilty chose not to watch the trial because - facts. 🙄

  • @gwp4eva
    @gwp4eva 3 місяці тому +49

    Lally in opening: “Karen struck John at 12:45
    Trooper Paul on Monday: “John O’Keefe was struck at approximately 12:45
    Trooper G on Thursday: Karen was back at John’s house at 12:36
    how some people are still clinging to her being guilty is beyond me

    • @bunch_o_racket
      @bunch_o_racket 3 місяці тому +8

      I KNOW! Lally didn't even really try to win this. I think he was bullied into prosecuting Karen, knowing he couldn't make it stick with a public defender, much less a really good paid defense attorney.

    • @ValenciaLintz
      @ValenciaLintz 3 місяці тому +7

      I think she's guilty, too. She has no kind of sympathy for this man and her attitude sinks.

    • @virginiakelly3541
      @virginiakelly3541 3 місяці тому +4

      Don’t forget JM saying she saw KR vehicle drive away from 34 Fairview after the 12:36 time we know she was back at 1 Meadows… yet no one who left after that time frame… heard anything, saw anything… and all say they didn’t see John…

    • @JosephBroughton
      @JosephBroughton 3 місяці тому +7

      Jen McCabe also testified on cross that she saw Karen’s black SUV leaving 34 Fairview at 12:45am. She admitted that she texted John hello at that time, then called him, then called him again… then again… then again… and then again. Then deleted those calls. Sounds perfectly normal to me…

    • @karinaz8756
      @karinaz8756 3 місяці тому

      @@ValenciaLintzyou know who has a stinky attitude? The PROSECUTOR that made fun of Karen’s medical condition and looked for nudes as he illegally searched her phone. Anyone that thinks she is still guilty is being willfully ignorant. This never should have gone to trial.

  • @nancifyme
    @nancifyme 3 місяці тому +36

    The title “stunning new testimony” is misleading. Your clip neither shows nor discusses the new testimony.

    • @robinswebmail
      @robinswebmail 3 місяці тому

      Click bait....hate it when they do that.

  • @syntrexfpv1347
    @syntrexfpv1347 3 місяці тому +31

    I just want one single person with a straight face to explain how getting hit by a tail light and bumper in reverse going 24 miles an hour can cause two black eyes that "looked like golf balls" along with bruising on the back of the hands and scratches all up the right arm but no further bodily injury... Please someone try to recreate this in some way that does not clearly equal a brutal beating including a dog. This whole case is sick and the worst part is i still think she will probably get convicted.. Our own Making a Murderer here in Boston.

    • @couls3able
      @couls3able 3 місяці тому +11

      I think the jury is smarter than that. I hope! Because nothing makes sense.

    • @syntrexfpv1347
      @syntrexfpv1347 3 місяці тому +5

      @@couls3able Agreed

    • @dawnmills6755
      @dawnmills6755 3 місяці тому +7

      It was testified at trial that the SUV weighed OVER 7,000 lbs. How do you think a body would look after being hit by a vehicle weighing over 7,000 lbs at 24 mph. You'd be messed up!

    • @syntrexfpv1347
      @syntrexfpv1347 3 місяці тому +10

      @@dawnmills6755 I don't think you understand how physics work. I understand your point, Heavy object moving and hitting a smaller object but the damage to the body does not coincide with the speed and weight the vehicle was traveling. Do you honestly believe a tail light and bumper can cause two black eyes the size of golf balls, dog bites on the right arm, laceration to the back of the head and face. Also above all ZERO broken bones. You would think a 7k lb vehicle would brake a bone or two if colliding with a person.

    • @FOE_AM
      @FOE_AM 3 місяці тому

      ​@@dawnmills6755Lemme guess...you also believe the FBI isn't investigating everyone that was at that house the night JO died???!!!!!?! They are the ones who supplied the defense with all the data being used to prove Karen's Innocence. You're acting delusional, why would the FBI give them all that data and the experts that are about to testify. They don't know Karen. They were hired by the FBI to investigate the case. Put 1 + 1 together it will equal 2 EVERY TIME. You can't truly expect us to believe you hear all these troopers testifying and think they don't sound absolutely compromised. Unable to recall ANYTHING that goes against their narrative, but every time the prosecution asks about anything in favor of their narrative they have a photographic memory 😂😂😂😂

  • @caroljacques4243
    @caroljacques4243 3 місяці тому +6

    KAREN READ KNOWINGLY WILLFULLY AND WITH MALICE MOWED DOWN JOHN O'KEEFE

    • @NottyAries
      @NottyAries 3 місяці тому

      John wasn't hit with a car. The kinda messes up your entire narrative.

  • @Jack-bc5xg
    @Jack-bc5xg 3 місяці тому +3

    Karen's got a hollow leg. She can knock em back. Professional

  • @Handsoffthekids
    @Handsoffthekids 3 місяці тому +6

    Been following the court case only and not the background or outside info. If I were a juror I wouldn’t be able to find her guilty based on the case presented by both. I’m not suggesting a conspiracy rather the commonwealth didn’t prove their case to me beyond a reasonable doubt. The defense rested today. Closing arguments next week. This is the first news story I’ve seen about it.

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому

      hilarious comment left on youtube saying you haven’t been following the background or outside info😂😂😅😅 you’re on youtube leaving a comment on “background info” 💡 this is the 1st news story😂😅

  • @drmikeforcynthiasullivan1457
    @drmikeforcynthiasullivan1457 3 місяці тому +4

    Well if she saw him walk to the door why would she question if she possibly hit him? Sorry folks

    • @NottyAries
      @NottyAries 3 місяці тому

      I'm so tired of seeing this. If she said it, it was said as an inquiry, in a high state of panic, anxiety and grief. I hate when people are disingenuous just to make a fake point.

  • @FOE_AM
    @FOE_AM 3 місяці тому +21

    My wife said she hates me & hopes I crash & die like 4 years ago...imagine if I actually died y'all would blame my wife 😂😂

    • @Moe-bz6je
      @Moe-bz6je 3 місяці тому +3

      You're not out of the woods yet buddy. I've had hundreds of girlfriends, even 2 fiances and not one said anything close to that to me. No one ever has. Crash and die is pretty harsh and crazy.

    • @ridingbikes4life
      @ridingbikes4life 3 місяці тому +1

      As we should

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому +2

      i’m sorry you’re in such an unhealthy marriage that’s awful to say to someone let alone someone you love

  • @brogunwatch416
    @brogunwatch416 3 місяці тому +5

    Karens are gonna be Karens. What do you expect.😂

  • @bornfree0507
    @bornfree0507 3 місяці тому +24

    Something happened at the house after he went in and she pulled away and went home.

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes. She left and drove home while the victim went into the house and then got involved in a fight and got killed (possibly accidently). Those in the house then decided to cover it up. Initially they were going to leave the body close to the road where it might look like a snowplow hit him, but the heavy snow didn't start falling for hours and the snowplows were only throwing sand. The snowplow driver for that area made several passes while sanding the roads and he never saw any body. The injuries on the body are consistent with a fight accompanied by dog bites. The wounds are not consistent with being backed into with a car. And there also was a German shepherd dog in that residence at the time which aligns with the bite injuries. Buckets of other evidence points to a cover-up. Overall, a cover-up that makes the Watergate cover-up back in 1972 look like geniuses.

    • @jackieblue6116
      @jackieblue6116 3 місяці тому +2

      His phone never moved after she pulled away. John never went into the house.

    • @NottyAries
      @NottyAries 3 місяці тому

      ​@@jackieblue6116His phone did move after she left. Denying facts will not make her guilty, or you right.

  • @jefflester4131
    @jefflester4131 3 місяці тому +7

    Her voicemails she left does not help her case, and the defense trying to make proctor out to be some kind of monster by saying mean words is juvenile at best. The defense will not win this case if they try to push sympathy. There is a lot of evidence looking at Ms Read!

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому

      You'll be quite embarrassed when this is all over and she is found not guilty. By the way, the FBI has been investigating all these police officers for the past year. They don't get involved in a local 2nd degree murder trial for nothing. The case against Reed has more holes than a giant sponge.

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому +2

      The state's case has so many evidentiary contradictions and holes that they will never convict. I served on two separate juries in murder trials (both resulting in convictions) and I am stunned by the bad "evidence" against Read.

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому +1

      i think they should have went after her for vehicular manslaughter by intoxicated use of a vehicle . i think it was an accident & i think the jury will have a hard time convicting her of murder2.
      unfortunately .
      bcz all these conspiracy theories are outlandish🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому

      Boy, talk about clueless. You're going to be quite surprised when a not guilty verdict comes in quickly.

    • @NottyAries
      @NottyAries 3 місяці тому

      I disagree. If she knew she had hit him, she would know that his phone would be collected and investigated. If you're trying to cover up that you hit your boyfriend, you would NOT leave those types of messages.

  • @Moe-bz6je
    @Moe-bz6je 3 місяці тому +19

    Guilty. The GPS pointed where John was the whole time and it's literally impossible to cover that up because they get it from the cell phone provider.

    • @pheebs818
      @pheebs818 3 місяці тому +9

      Thank you for having a brain and using it . Really, no sarcasm 🙌

    • @chasityleman7932
      @chasityleman7932 3 місяці тому +5

      She’s 10000% guilty! But she will get off wait and see 😢

    • @Moe-bz6je
      @Moe-bz6je 3 місяці тому +1

      @@pheebs818 thank you pheebs!

    • @gwp4eva
      @gwp4eva 3 місяці тому +3

      no, it showed a bubble of where it COULD be. if your signal gets disrupted (maybe by, i don’t know, being in a basement?) but the GPS knows it’s still somewhere near where it used to be, it sometimes just defaults to that spot because that’s where the signal was strongest. which would be the spot where he and Karen parked
      the sequence of bubbles goes: near the flagpole, expands to most of house, shrinks to half of house (where basement is) then focuses back to its original bubble. he went into the house then downstairs

    • @fuzzilu
      @fuzzilu 3 місяці тому

      ​@@chasityleman7932 the proof shows she is innocent. It's been proven a car never hit him. No injuries to hips. It's been proven by a dog bite expert that he was bitten. Karen logged into John's WiFi, when others said she was at 34 ... It's a set up .. I'm watching the trial from the UK. Your police are as shady as ours ..

  • @traceybittle2798
    @traceybittle2798 3 місяці тому +7

    I'm not a doctor or medical examiner; but from my many years in nursing those two blackeyes could be the result of a subdural hematoma; which he did suffer due to the head trauma. The blood flow could have occurred when he attempted to get up but was intoxicated and had head trauma.

    • @houdiniwho
      @houdiniwho 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly and even a lay person should know this.

    • @NottyAries
      @NottyAries 3 місяці тому +1

      Well, according to the actual doctor that testified, JOK would not have been able to stand or walk after his head injury.

    • @WomanofSteele
      @WomanofSteele 3 місяці тому

      @@traceybittle2798 we heard what they all said: dog bites. That’s case closed for me. Innocent

  • @zovalentine7305
    @zovalentine7305 3 місяці тому +9

    Parents, teach your children DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE ❗❗❗❗

    • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
      @pillettadoinswartsh4974 3 місяці тому +3

      That's what you're getting out of this clusterfuck fiasco???

    • @oNeGiAnTLiE
      @oNeGiAnTLiE 3 місяці тому

      Teach your children “ don’t be a dirty lying pig”?

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому +1

      💯

    • @Raquelzinhavix25
      @Raquelzinhavix25 3 місяці тому

      The troopers need to learn it first. They need to learn not to drive their cruisers intoxicated.

  • @jaspajones7045
    @jaspajones7045 3 місяці тому +2

    Guilty

  • @notavailable-24
    @notavailable-24 3 місяці тому +6

    I think it's possible she was so drunk she doesn't remember running over him

    • @houdiniwho
      @houdiniwho 3 місяці тому +3

      Bingo! She was originally charged with vehicular homicide, but she decided to challenge it. 98 pound woman registered 1.3 8 hours later.

  • @Lunchladydoyle
    @Lunchladydoyle 3 місяці тому +12

    She hit him and didn’t call for help. I’m not buying that the whole police department AND the medical examiner’s office are all risking life behind bars over a couple of cops fighting and one of them dying. Defense attorneys with guilty clients always do one of 2 defenses. They do the Jodi Arias tactic, smear the murder victim to make them look like a monster or they do the it’s a vast conspiracy to pin the murder on an innocent person tactic. Not buying that everyone involved in this case has it out for Karen Read and smashed up her tail light to pin it on her. Should have pled involuntary manslaughter and gotten 18 months and probation.

    • @gwp4eva
      @gwp4eva 3 місяці тому +8

      well the medical examiner just testified that his injuries were not consistent with a vehicle collision. so…

    • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
      @pillettadoinswartsh4974 3 місяці тому +5

      And you saw no reasonable doubt at all, I suppose? Did you even watch the trial??

    • @timk5867
      @timk5867 3 місяці тому +1

      Opinions right?

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому +3

      Then you're going to be quite surprised when this is all over.

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому +3

      they picked the OJ defense & im appalled at how many idiots are falling for these outlandish conspiracy theories..
      i agree with you, way too many ppl in that house to all keep their stories straight & not have even 1 of them have an ounce of honesty or goodness in them to care about a dead friend/colleague or someone else getting charged w/ a crime that they wouldn’t have committed if their conspiracy theories were correct . it’s laughable

  • @isabelferreira6660
    @isabelferreira6660 3 місяці тому +12

    Many relationships have issues n problems.

    • @pheebs818
      @pheebs818 3 місяці тому +3

      And sometimes heated arguments end badly

    • @Forest-nh8st
      @Forest-nh8st 3 місяці тому +3

      @@pheebs818and sometimes bad people do bad things and blame it on others.

  • @Pink_143_6
    @Pink_143_6 3 місяці тому +1

    It wasn’t a “ massive “ blizzard.

  • @chasityleman7932
    @chasityleman7932 3 місяці тому +10

    Why are we even here?? She did hit him! Yes! Accidentally? Yes most likely but for her lawyers to turn this into a conspiracy is just ridiculous!! To try and spin this outlandish claim is beyond disrespectful to John!!

    • @mrssmith4453
      @mrssmith4453 3 місяці тому +4

      Her car beeps as a warning something is behind you. She ignored that and she left him in the cold to die, that's not an accident. That goes to intent. He may have been saved if she had called 911. Depraved indifference.

    • @gwp4eva
      @gwp4eva 3 місяці тому +4

      then why did the medical examiner say that his injuries were not consistent with a car collision?

    • @mrssmith4453
      @mrssmith4453 3 місяці тому +3

      @gwp4eva I did not hear that. I heard that she said they were. She also said she thought that he died where he lay or very close to it.

    • @sandrarenner4402
      @sandrarenner4402 3 місяці тому

      @@mrssmith4453then listen to her testimony again

    • @reginacorrigan5324
      @reginacorrigan5324 3 місяці тому

      ​@@mrssmith4453 Have you watched the trial..??Prosecution have proved nothing..All that we have found out is the level of liars living in that house

  • @JackieHerron-p4k
    @JackieHerron-p4k 3 місяці тому +8

    She is guilty phone data proves that he never went in the house case over

    • @jaytrock3217
      @jaytrock3217 3 місяці тому +2

      please share that testimony?

    • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
      @pillettadoinswartsh4974 3 місяці тому

      hahahahahahahahaahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • @timk5867
      @timk5867 3 місяці тому

      Aww.

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому

      Wow, are you going to have egg on you face when this is all over.

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому +1

      Oh, he did walk in but he was carried out.

  • @RatTerminator
    @RatTerminator 3 місяці тому +18

    Guilty 🤬

    • @MrE1979
      @MrE1979 3 місяці тому +1

      What evidence proves that?

    • @pillettadoinswartsh4974
      @pillettadoinswartsh4974 3 місяці тому +3

      hahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      The only people who still think she's guilty, haven't watched one second of the trial.

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому +2

      Boy, you haven't been following the trial at all, have you? I can't ever recall a case with more holes in it. By the way, the FBI has been investigating these police for the past year.

  • @Sunshine-kn6or
    @Sunshine-kn6or 3 місяці тому +7

    What about Colin’s knuckles?

    • @templeyoung2423
      @templeyoung2423 3 місяці тому

      There is a photo showing nothing on his knuckles closer to the incident. Guess you did t see that one

  • @TheWestlandgirl
    @TheWestlandgirl 3 місяці тому +2

    Great points!

  • @researchtech4881
    @researchtech4881 3 місяці тому

    That dog, that they conveniently got rid of, definitely attacked JK. Further, the cops inverted video of her vehicle because they worried it shows their claims about the tail light are untrue. Two of them destroyed their phones just before the subpoena. His injuries were consistent with a fight, not a massive SUV slamming into him. They were wasted. He went inside and someone pissed him off. They exchanged words and it got violent. He was hurt badly and either walked off, collapsing outside, or they carried him out there after realizing his skull fracture was fatal. They framed her.

  • @DM-ev1sr
    @DM-ev1sr 3 місяці тому

    Why queen latifa is hired to do a facial cream treatment commercial is just not a good choice. I see no beauty in her whatsoever.
    Halle Berry..now she is a doll. Get her damnit

  • @lyndaandino8670
    @lyndaandino8670 3 місяці тому

    FREE KAREN READ INNOCENT 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @zenjen1295
    @zenjen1295 3 місяці тому +4

    She is innocent.

  • @rosemariesierra1267
    @rosemariesierra1267 3 місяці тому

    Not guilty dog bites

  • @DreIngram-g8k
    @DreIngram-g8k 3 місяці тому +7

    SOMETHING AINT RIGHT

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 3 місяці тому

      I served on the juries of two murder trials (both resulting in convictions). I am stunned by the shoddy case brought by the state in this matter. This case smells like week old rotting fish.

  • @Byepolarchaos
    @Byepolarchaos 2 місяці тому

    Boston is a joke.

  • @alexlogan202
    @alexlogan202 3 місяці тому

    Abc is garbage

  • @DreIngram-g8k
    @DreIngram-g8k 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow

  • @shirleymlombo2913
    @shirleymlombo2913 3 місяці тому +3

    The parties know the truth. She does not come off as someone who lost a loved one. However, she may have done enough to create reasonable doubt.

  • @PFJ7
    @PFJ7 3 місяці тому +1

    And yet Karen has been the only one to care about John’s niece and nephew. The hate you give lingers for generations. Praying for the commonwealth and those two kids, may justice prevail or the heavens fall. ✝️

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому +4

      she hated those kids ! & was jealous of john’s love for them

    • @Raquelzinhavix25
      @Raquelzinhavix25 3 місяці тому

      @@amandas.7143Nope! That’s not true. JO’s brother said in his testimony that Karen was good to the kids and that John sometimes was mad at Karen because she spoiled the kids. She would buy fancy things and take them on nice trips.

    • @templeyoung2423
      @templeyoung2423 3 місяці тому

      @@Raquelzinhavix25she texted that negatively about him taking on the kids

    • @Raquelzinhavix25
      @Raquelzinhavix25 3 місяці тому

      @@templeyoung2423 That’s not what his brother said about her

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому

      @@Raquelzinhavix25 she love bombed them trying to win john over. doesn’t mean she didn’t hate them due to jealousy

  • @bobsiyt6548
    @bobsiyt6548 3 місяці тому

    I can’t even imagine how many streaming services are going to do a documentary about this. It’s such a bizarre and interesting story.

  • @TheLocalHairdresser
    @TheLocalHairdresser 3 місяці тому

    🐕🐕🐕🐕🐕🐕

  • @giseledesjardins8239
    @giseledesjardins8239 3 місяці тому

    Poor reporting.

  • @RatTerminator
    @RatTerminator 3 місяці тому +7

    Pamela Smart 2.0

    • @mrssmith4453
      @mrssmith4453 3 місяці тому +4

      More like Jodi Arias.
      Hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned.

  • @lisal2018
    @lisal2018 3 місяці тому +2

    Everyone acts like he was too good for her and I think it was the opposite.

    • @amandas.7143
      @amandas.7143 3 місяці тому +3

      he was way too good for her. she’s a total nut job

  • @WomanofSteele
    @WomanofSteele 3 місяці тому

    As morbid as it is, I would have liked to have seen the autopsy photos of John’s face. If it’s as obvious as the defense says, I wish we could see for ourselves the aftermath of the fight. I’m sure it doesn’t look like a car backed him over but I’d still like to see all the evidence

  • @mariojrog9465
    @mariojrog9465 3 місяці тому

    Who?

  • @louisegiordano5665
    @louisegiordano5665 3 місяці тому +1

    Karen, was frustrated with the relationship with the man she loved. I know I have said dumb pretty nasty desperate things when I was in a bad relationship

    • @mrssmith4453
      @mrssmith4453 3 місяці тому +3

      Did your man turn up dead right after?

    • @louisegiordano5665
      @louisegiordano5665 3 місяці тому

      @@mrssmith4453 I wish

    • @Raquelzinhavix25
      @Raquelzinhavix25 3 місяці тому

      @@mrssmith4453If he was at the house of someone who killed somebody before and got rid of it. He’d probably be dead too.

    • @mrssmith4453
      @mrssmith4453 3 місяці тому

      ​@Raquelzinhavix25 Oh stop. The man got out of her car and never moved again. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to put the pieces together. She's the only one with means + motive.

    • @Raquelzinhavix25
      @Raquelzinhavix25 3 місяці тому

      @@mrssmith4453 It just did, right? Trooper Pirouette Paul. 🙄

  • @flynneart1111
    @flynneart1111 3 місяці тому +1

    Sorry but John was a jerk and that's all

  • @kerrimeaney3572
    @kerrimeaney3572 3 місяці тому +1

    I think Peggy (his mom) had a hand in this there was bad blood over the kids and custody and as we know people will do some low down shit over that. Are they Peggy’s angel’s really because they helped take out her opponent and enemy and get rid of the woman they hated