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How to Grip a Pistol: The How and Why
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
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Because defensive shooting requires protectors to shoot accurately and quickly under stress, how a gun is held becomes very important. In this video I will demonstrate the difference between a good grip and a bad grip relating to muzzle flip on the range, and I will walk through the biomechanical reasons why a thumbs-forward grip is the best pistol grip to date. Proper grip should allow the gun to stay flat even while the slide is quickly cycling. Visit Telluric Group for world class training. Champion competitive shooters such as Dave Sevigny, Bob Vogel, Shane Coley, JJ Racaza use this grip, as well as SWAT teams and members of the military's special operations.
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After having my right wrist surgically fused, my accuracy improved dramatically !
Why not fuse your elbow joint while you’re at it
Fossil Fountain because wrist hip and five vertebra fused was enough for me
@@bladen0869 i hear ya! I had my right wrist, left hip and right tib and fib done.
One time I sprained my ankle
@@fossilfountain
*R U D E*
This is without a doubt the BEST tutorial teaching basic pistol grip available on UA-cam.
YOU ARE A GREAT TEACHER.
Kay Miculek is a lot better. this guy acts like he's selling something on QVC
@@electrontube how so? Because he is excited? I like miculek a lot too, but I like john more for practical/defensive shooting.
He is selling. If he can teach you a little bit now and get you shooting better then wanting more... HEY he teaches classes! They're expensive so he can afford to give this away plus he needs you to really want to be better to buy his class and perform well in it. Then you recommend the class to the guys you've been shooting with. They see your improvement from the class and want to train also. Capitalism really does work friend.
@@fuhq5121 you must not have watched many of John's videos if you think he is just giving tidbits to entice or hook people into taking his classes. I don't know him personally, but from what I gather he is a godly man who lives a Christ-centered life. I believe that, like Jesus, John wants everyone to serve and protect the helpless, poor and needy. So he tries to be the best godly example he can be for people like us. Watch some of the videos where he and his wife interact with each other. John is leading you and me by example. They appear to have a very solid loving relationship and seem to enjoy being around each other. That's what a relationship with Jesus can do for a man and his marriage.
He doesn't need to trick or entice any of us to participate in his classes. If you've ever tried to get into one of his classes you would know it's nearly impossible. They are filled up way into next year. Therefore, you can safely take his words at face value without wondering if there is an underlying agenda.
Enjoy your teachings and videos John. Keep up the fantastic work!
@Blake Terry HA!!! Yep, Army Rangers with multiple tours normally are hacks..........
As a fairly new gun owner. I progressed alot in my skills by watching 3 of your videos. Thank you so much!
Heck yeah get it!
give us the update! how's the gun life been?
I appreciate your discipline of always making sure it’s empty. It’s never enough.
3:16 what a fantastic illustration of the effect of the technique. What a great teacher.
Would that then be...
Wait for it...
John 3:16?
I appreciate you bringing all this content on your channel free of charge. I look forward to a class or two in the future either there or in Camden. Thanks for you and your family's sacrifices and service on behalf of my family and the country. It has not gone unnoticed or unappreciated. We are humbled.
YES!
Well said...
Out of all the videos and people I've talked to and shot with.. I've learned, without a single doubt 100 times more VALUABLE and truly USEFUL information from your videos then any flat range instructor has ever given me the time of day over.
I’ve been using this for about 3 years now I enjoy it and super comfortable. I teach others this grip now
Thanks I watched this video Thursday practiced the thumbs forward and all.
And I instantly noticed after 70 rounds I got all with the numbers on the ccw chart or similar target the upper torso target at 7 yards .
So I would have passed qualified at the 7 yards.
Thanks so much. I turned on my buddies to this video and your channel I subscribed also
By the way nice apologetics on the God and guns videos
Thanks again John. This really helped my wife. She benefits greatly from your clarity, articulation and examples and we love watching your channel together. We appreciate that you've dedicated your life to keeping families safe.
Man I swear, I watch these videos, then I dry practice and when I go to the range, it’s like night and day, so much better and have more fun doing it. Thank you 👍
This was the best tutorial on proper grip that I've ever seen, and your economy with time in presenting it was impressive. I see many at the range writing off muzzle flip and recoil as unpleasant gun dynamics when it's really bent arms and low bracing hand placement. Kudos!
This channel is bad ass
thanks bro - it's at least improving
+John Lovell yes it is cause I just subbed ; )
That first demo was me about 9 years ago lol. This was a thorough but simple explanation.
thanks Chance! Yeah, the grip is well-known and established. I'm aiming for those who haven't been subjected to it yet
I've looked at tons of videos and read dozens of articles, but never really "got" how hard to grip with my support hand, how high up, far back, etc. It wasn't terrible. I got the fundamentals of being high up on the pistol with a firm grip, strong support hand, thumbs forward, but something was missing. The way you broke down the support hand part in this video made it finally click for me. I dry fired hundreds of times with that new knowledge and finally took that skill to the range today. Compared with my last range session, my groups got noticeably tighter and my recoil management was much better. I also made some good progress on my shot anticipation by focusing on tracking the front during recoil which was made much easier with this grip. Thanks a million, John!
I appreciate the explanation of the mechanics that you incorporate. I have always found it easier to remember "what" I was supposed to do if I understood "why" I was supposed to do it.
Paul Harrel and John Lovell, match in heaven when it comes to learning firearms.
Harrel sux, mate go Primary&Secondary to reach quality and objectively superior content, John works with guys from there too, Harrel seriously is half good advice, half fudd, I personaly prefer not to have to sift through bs in this type of themes, like selfdef etc.
Also Harrels viewers act like fanatical cultists on several occasions.
titanscerw Harrel is good at what he does so is John Lovell John Corria from Active Self Protection and Dan The FireArms Guy
I’ve watched numerous videos on grip by top trainers... this is among the best! Thanks!
So awesome to see instructional videos that aren’t regurgitating other teachers’ methods. Great stuff, I learned a lot
Mate, you're amazing. I don't usually comment on UA-cam. I had an assessment today, wasn't doing well yesterday during practice. I was stressing about it. Watched your video last night and made the adjustment in my grip, I smashed it today. Thanks a ton. I've subscribed to your channel. Thanks once again.
Tip: I watch these videos while actually AT the range so I can practice these techniques in real time.
Edit: changed protip to just tip. Because I'm not a pro, and I just wanna leave the tip.
Haha so you're one of those guys taking up time by looking at your phone instead of shooting
Tier 1 gold tip: I watch Papa Poet videos while eating snacks to better fuel my tactical basement comments
@@timothyripley4175 If buy 2 hours, they're my two hours. Besides theres never been a capacity problem at my home range. So I dont have to be that guy.
@@savage_the_wild you're clearly on another level man. Good stuff. XD
@@cameronoquinn94 I've stopped going to my ranges because people there were more focused on taking pics or vids. All them have 1 hour lanes and usually waiting. It's just funny cuz to me because watching then at the range isn't really a pro tip
Thank you. As I have approached 70 with shoulder injuries a long recovery I lost the ability to execute controlled pairs or more. I had to search for the sights between shots. I will try this.
Awesome thanks! Had to grab a gun and check my support side grip. I've never seen it explained that way, excellent video!
We've been teaching this to our students for 20 years. Nothing new here, in fact, this guy has a lot to learn.
I have to say there are some things in some of your videos I dont agree with and "that's ok" but even though I don't agree it's still eye opening. And I really have a lot of admiration for you putting some of your training content up for new and experienced shooters. I'm honestly shocked you dont have a bigger following. I also like the fact that the channel is based around firearms defense but goes into much broader topics and some even unrelated. The world needs more ppl preaching firearms, proven tactics, and old fashioned ways. Keep up the content even if the internet doesn't agree!
4 years later and this is still the best instruction on grip I’ve seen. Thanks!
Best grip advice I've seen really. I've not seen anyone mention that about the wrist before. Game changer!
Tried this for the first time last night and saw good results. Thank you! Look forward to improving further...
I love this explanation of pistol grip. I can't wait to give this grip a try at the range.
Holy crap John!! That buzzer, turn and shoot just motivated me!! And slightly rustled my jimmies, cant wait to take your NV class
You are legitimately one of the best firearms instructors I have come across. Your reaction time in the beginning of the video is ridiculously fast. I cannot imagine getting in to a gun battle with you. I guarantee that you would be able unload a full magazine on target before I was able to get my first shot off. I have alot of practice ahead of me.
Best channel on the net. Hands down.
JOHN THANK YOU!!! I actually took my gun unloaded of course..lol and stood their watching your video fixed my hand grip & foot placement . Went to the shooting range the following day & Applied what I have learned. My shooting improved TREMENDOUSLY... NOW!!! 😎I want to take your classes! Thanks again..
You know going back through all these and wow I'm learning so much more this time around.
BAck in the early days of Ipsc, people were teaching this grip. A lot of people got the importance of pressure wrong and were squeezing in with thumbs and interfering with slide operation and causing feed issues. Nice to see you got it right here. The off hand position is about alignment with recoil and not about "grip power"
John, I have been a Police Rangemaster for over 20 years . Your explanation and ability to break down the ergonomics and physics of the how and why of grip is beyond anything I seen. I hope you don't mind if I use your explanation in my teaching and I will of course give credit to you ... outstanding video !!!
Just bought my first handgun. This video helped me get 500% better just after shooting my second time ever. Thank you!
Such great information in this old video, but it’s the backdrop that blows my hair back! Yay for that!
Just did my CCW class in California. They showed this video. Great video.
one of the best channels on UA-cam
I know this a an older video and I hate that I'm just seeing it but thank you!! This solved my low right and stabilized muzzle and the firearm does not move at all anymore. Thanks!!
Wish I had you as my small arms instructor, your so engaged and thorough in your training sessions. You could definetely be a buds instructor. I've seen worse that just like to yell as close to your face as possible so they know your wrong but not explain much of a more correct way. Some definitely get a little too obsessed and excited by degrading young men. Like they say though, first you have to be nothing to become something. Break you, then remold you into a "punisher". Great work man!
Very informative. I understood before how to properly grip a pistol, but I did not know why. Knowing why is very important, thank you for the information
Im in the process of changing my grip.... this has top spot so far!
The grip may be established but your demonstration and explanation is authentically yours and unique. Thanks for sharing your version John!
Old video but I have to say this changed my shooting over night. Thank you so much for this quick and simple fix
Mine too... I actually grouped at center after following this.
I’m learning to shoot with my CZ SP-01. I love your videos.
I just found your channel recently thanks to James Yeager, but you explain the how's and why's of even the basic things so incredibly well that an advanced shooter or a novice shooter could understand it completely.
You and this channel got me into my first pistol ever. I like the thumbs forward and elbows rolled in more than anything I have tried before!
Like South America and Africa? So, this is the Pangea Grip?
+Tom Olofsson I dunno, kinda has a nice ring to it right?!
Dammit, beat me to it!
One grip for all
United States of Grip.
One grip to bring them (hands and pistol) together...
After years of being a certified UA-cam firearms expert, this is the most informative video on gripping a pistol effectively and why we do so.
The method for clearly demonstrating the advantage of the grip using only the support hand was outstanding! Helping make me a better instructor. Much appreciated.
NVCFI#293
I’m so glad I found your channel, I served from 02 to 06 but hadn’t touched a weapon since. I recently utilized my 2A right and purchased my first handgun. Mostly going off of most likely outdated and fuzzy military training your videos have been very helpful. Thank you for taking time to be thorough and clear in your pro tips.
I am watching this over and over. Foundation information.
I first noticed the grip on the front cover of Brian Enos's book on Beyond the Fundamentals. The book was written in 1990. I asked Mr. Enos where he learned the grip and he stated the first time he noticed the grip was by Rob Leatham. Rob mentioned he was experimenting with the grip and it was working. So this grip is at least 27 years old.
This is one of the best videos on youtube about handgun grip.
Works like a charm. Instantly took away the “jitters” associated with adrenaline and holding a bad grip! Thanks John!
The vibe I'm getting: If Jack Reacher and Vincent from Collateral are brothers who has a younger brother who has a UA-cam channel. So yea I subbed.
+BluntedAssasin27 haha 😂
BluntedAssasin27 collateral was fckingreat
My brotha. Please keep up ALL of the content you’ve been releasing it’s outstanding and very much appreciated.
Turning the elbow in was the missing piece to my grip. It’s made a world of difference.
Thanks!!
I'm new to shooting, just went to two 100 round sessions the past two weeks.
Years ago - probably more than 15 years - I fired a 9mm auto, and a .357 revolver with a friend of mine at a range.
We didn't know anything about proper grip (aside from two hands on the gun) and had a hard time even hitting the target from 10 yards out.
We certainly didn't know about thumbs forward.
Pretty disappointing, because I'm far better with a slingshot.
Fast forward to the past two weeks, where I have watched many youtube videos like this one, and practiced handling my gun empty for months before hitting the range.
Well, damn - I cold shoot pretty well right out of the gate!
Shocked that I feel virtually no recoil, as it's all directed back instead of up.
Nearly all of my shots are within the inner ring, and a few right on the bullseye.
New gun owner here. I love the demonstrations in this video. I took my permit class over a year ago and recently got my permit and a firearm, and this video provided a completely different but extremely well-taken explanation on proper pistol grip.
John, we have never met and I have not seen this video before today, but this is nearly exactly how I teach grip as well!
I am sharing this on my training group page.
I am really enjoying this channel. The tack you're taking regarding firearms instruction and preparedness is unique and appreciated. I have subscribed to two You Tube channels in my life, this one and Alpha & Omega Ministries.
I've been firing handguns for near fifteen years and nobody has ever explained grip technique to me as clearly and logically.
Great job sir, keep up the good work. I'll be looking to take a rifle class from you as soon as I can afford it!
Blessings.
+arkdweller22 thanks!! Good to have you
I've been using the classic Weaver grip my entire life. It's been _very_ difficult to overcome that muscle memory, but after watching this demonstration I now understand that I _have_ to do it.
Yep, it's little adjustments in grip that make HUGE differences in accuracy. Awesome tutorial!
Just tried this grip at the range yesterday. Much more accurate and better control of the pistol.
A coworker of mine showed me the thumbs forward grip and my accuracy improved dramatically! I think with your information and more practice I will be so much better!!!
★★★★★The more of your videos I watch, the more excited I get about taking a class. A pistol course with John Lovell has definitely moved up on my bucket list.
hope to see you make it down to Telluric Group sometime then!
couldn't agree more. Don't know how I'm going to talk my wife into a training trip to Georgia over our current bucket list of places abroad. I think I'll pitch to her we do every other trip a training trip and every other trip a vacation abroad. Wish me luck.
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Machine gun horn
I love watching your videos!!! Gets me excited to learn and better myself. Thank you!!!!!
Best video on grip I’ve seen yet. Good job.
Holy cow. Watched a few of your videos but somehow haven't really seen you do many drills yourself. That demo was crazy fast.
You are invaluable for safety and training. Watching your videos!!!
This is Awesome Technical handcrip for the pistol and the pister....... Thanks so much, Sir
Watching this in the middle of my range time! I’ve watched it at least twice in the past. Thanks so much! I’m a tiny girl with a Glock 26 gen 4 and that grip hurts but it’s amazing what happens when I grip it more firmly.
I'm pretty good with a pistol but I have a feeling that this illustration will take my shooting to a whole new level!!! Thank you!!!
This is the best description of the two hand technique I've seen on UA-cam. Thank you for your instruction
Great tips, thanks. Best regards from city of Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Still one of the best grip videos on youtube today!
great video, improved my pistol shooting right away
New shooter and I'm fighting the low and left deal. I like what you showed us here and in one of your other videos (more recent) you show the push forward that basically tilts the top of the pistol a little to the right. Trying these on my next range visit. Thanks
it works really well....grouping are much smaller....thanks for the tips :)
Great video! My grip is something I constantly struggle with. I'm looking forward to this out.
Brilliantly educating by explaining the big 3 letter word...WHY! I am really digging your channel. THANKS
john you are a great instructor, i cant believe i went this long without finding your channel.
Didn’t know if this video was going to be good, at 0:42 respect earned.
I've never really had a problem in hitting my target. I have had a problem doing so with any kind of urgency. This will help a lot. Thanks!
I can't make fun of your camera placement because you already call yourself out, what am I left to do now? Good video! How can I get a warrior poet sticker?
I suck - but I'm getting better!!! Sorry to steal your thunder. Stickers will be on my website (when it launches) - sorry for the delay (I suck again)
John Lovell, great video! I'm Norwegian and I would also be interested. Could foreigners like my self have items shipped internationally?
Johns entire body and everything he touches is ITAR...= (
I'm not allowed to have a VPN on the site.. sigh. Ok.
Another good video and tutorial. I'm going to start holding/shooting this way at the range tonight. You might have called ol' JT a failure at life one too many times though. The last one he looked at you like "yeah sure @55**l3". Crazy to see how far you have come and progressed since this dropped some 6 or more years ago. Thanks for all your great content.
I've never heard it explained quite like that. Very good, John. I'm going to borrow that explanation.
That is great advice! you have made me a way better shooter just with this video and your trigger control video! Great advice man!
Mechanics, Mechanics, Mechanics...Thank you
Poor JT failed in life.
+Nutjob Joe haha, yep!
I'm pretty terrible at life
I believe this was pioneered by Rob Leatham and Brian Enos back in the 80s. Been using it for a long time and it makes a huge difference.
Wow, the difference between the grips is stark. Thanks for making the video.
Shared 2 of your videos with a new shooter. This video & the firearm safety video.
I have never heard anyone explain your way of gripping a pistol, and it totally makes sense! My question is, though, with your hand that close to the slide, how do you keep it from biting you?
Thank you for this video, tried it on my Glock and CZ and you are right made my shooting more comfortable and better.
THUMB FORWARD! Jeez, went to a range for the first time, rented one of their glocks for the sesh. didnt do thumb forward, was wondering how to get it from recoiling so much jeez louise wish I had watched this first. As far as i can tell these vids have been great for a newbie like me. Knew all the clearing and whatnot, didn't get booted from the place! First time shooting something besides airsoft, great time!
You, sir, are an incredible instructor. I feel like watching your videos is actually a disservice, because how well you explain stuff might make some people feel they don't need classes. Any oregon visits?