No, there was actually a problem with the link before. Clicking on the link just gave an error like, "error accessing database", or something like that. I just tried it again and now it works(showing the target).
I started shooting like 4 years ago and this is by far the best instructional shooting I've listened to. I like the way you showed how to grip properly and why you do it. It really opened my eye on how grip is important.
Ive been shooting for almost 25 years, after 10's of thousands of rounds dowrange and several pistol instructions, Im still suffering grip issues that degrade my accuracy. This video was right on time because about a month ago, I began the mission to break everything down and build everything back up, starting with my grip. Thank you for this. This timely video is a sign I guess Im on the right track.
While the grip plays a key role, the largest killer of accurracy is YOU. Most notably, building the stamina to hold steady on target and the ability to override the monkey brain instinct to anticipate. The single biggest thing to improve my skills was a .22 sig mosquito. Instant feedback from real live fire, but with reduced recoil and concussion to remove the involuntary reactions. Transitioning back to a carry round (9mm for me) brought my 3 yard groups in from a few inches over 10 rounds to about 3/4". Recently did a course centered around the 10' distance and through 150 rounds fired, I never had anything outside 3/4" of the intended point of impact. A few thousand rounds through a .22 while focusing solely on the fundamentals is what did it. Grip, Stance, Sight Picture, Trigger control, Follow through. Repeat.
This video is a big help. I work in law enforcement and during my first year I suffered big issues on the range with accuracy. We had several training officers overseeing recruits shooting. I kept getting the “You can’t shoot for shit” speech. When I asked what I was doing wrong, I was told “I don’t know I wasn’t paying attention.” They left it at that and I had to figure it out on my own.
This is sad,because your life is on the line and by this response,it shows your training officers didn’t give a fuck whether you lived or died.You need to take personal initiative and responsibility and get training outside your department if they don’t care enough to train you well.I brought years of special operations training and combat experience to the job and I would have to say the academy taught me absolutely nothing I didn’t already know.
@@irishdefense77 Update: the training division has been re-staffed. They now set you up for success and will work with it till you get it right, within reason of course. It also helps that we are shooting 9 instead of 40.
Brother! Definitely was the GRIP. Went out to the range with your words and technique in mind, and immediately noticed my shot groups improve. Just saying THANK YOU and keep it coming.
Ron Avery does a very interesting module on grip where he has students take a sopping wet thick handtowel and wring it out hard, strong hand rotating knuckles down and support hand rotating knuckles up. That combination of gripping firming but also using counter rotational force was a real *lightbulb* moment. It gets your strong hand tensioning downward through the pinky and the supporthand grinding the meat of the palm into the top of the grip, under the slide lock. Friction and tension is what you're after. Doesn't take crushing hand/finger strength, just engaging the larger muscle groups in the correct direction with good grip coverage on the gun. Interesting stuff!
search on youtube for: "Ron Avery grip a gun like a pro", and "Ron Avery pliable hands" ....I think its in one of those. Three great video's on grip that go beyond the typical "where you put your hands" and get into some more conceptual info
Interestingly enough, that is how I have always wrung out my sopping wet thick handtowels. Who knew I was training my muscles for a good pistol grip? If only I had continued my training, I wouldn't have to work on my grip...but seriously, it's also a far superior method of expunging liquid out of thick fabric. XD
Train grip strength. Rolling thunder, pinch block, gripping plates, CoC hand grippers, deadlift. With training and nutrition, your hands can become incredibly strong. It takes that much less effort to control a weapon when your hands and fingers are strong. It doesn't translate as effectively as other grip elements, but CoC recommends that you should be able to close a #2 gripper if you're in law enforcement.
Fantastic stuff here. Lots of instructors will never go into this level of depth when it comes to grip and shooting positions. These students are definitely getting their money's worth!
Holy crap. Great explanation, and I'm only 4:30 in. I use MantisX and was averaging an 81 before this video. Paused at 4:30, did 50 rounds, bam I'm hitting 90's pretty regularly. The contact/pressure diagram at 4:30 helped a LOT.
At 6:40 he mentions "accountability with my middle finger" somehow I initially thought that meant something else and could explain why I get into these gunfights in the first place:) Seriously now, one of the better vids on the topic.
I've watched the vid 3 times to absorb what you were saying and think it through with dry fire. Then I went to the range and began to experiment with the "principles" and increase my speed. It worked! I mean it worked wonders on my ability to shoot accurately at speed. I still struggled to not want to over extend my support arm because that's how I have done it for years but my grip is a lot more solid thinking about locking the middle finger and pinky finger around my corresponding trigger hand fingers and indexing. Once that muscle memory is there, I feel like I'm going to be past a current plateau. Thanks man!
The key is to continue with your dry-practice. These are great principles and the instruction is fantastic, but the dry-practice is really what is paying the dividends here.
Started training with a new EDC about 2 months ago, a Glock 19. I love the gun but have been extremely frustrated with the low and left inaccuracy. I've been going to the range at least once a week trying to diagnose the problem and wasn't getting anywhere. Watched this a second and third time before going to the range this week and am amazed at the drastic improvement. Back on target! Thanks so much! Great info, great video!!
I have shamelessly poached the information from this video an been incorporating it into my own practice as well as when training the guys at the company I work at. Thanks a lot for putting out great stuff!
Holy damn! What a great drill!! I’ve been working on being consistent with speed and I’m shooting all over the place. This drill is exactly what is needed !!! Great vid and thank you !
His comment about new Glock shooters is right on. I have a new 17 and while I am getting good groups, they are a little low and left (7 o'clockish). This advise has helped me get back on track. Thanks!
Having carried and shot handguns for 41+ years, this is the best, bar none, explanation of grip pressure distribution. I have a tendency to miss straight left 2 - 3 inches at 7 yards with most of my handgun shooting regardless of caliber (40 and 45). I will place this information into practice...thanks.
thanks for the video. I've got a 10 year old who's getting into pistol shooting and that pressure applied to the lower fingers on the shooting hand and consistent pressure was a hard-learned lesson for me that I gained just last year in over 8 years of competitive shooting. your video is priceless and worth saving. yeah, I treasured that Eureka moment
Mr. Barruga, thank you very much Sir, for taking the time to make this video, I will be applying these tactics next time I am at the range, stay healthy and safe!
I just started shooting 60 - 40 about a year ago and saw great Improvement in my accuracy with Beretta 92. Just wanted to make that comment before seeing rest of the video.
Excellent instructor! As a martial arts instructor master instructor, I've learned that there are great competitive martial artists that are terrible martial arts insturctors. I believe for any beginner handling the gun in non shooting positions will familiarize one with their weapon. I'm sure that every great shooter was once a beginner. Thank you Sir. You are a very good teacher.
Totally agree. Been doing pistols competitively since 2010 and grip is one of the most underappreciated of the fundamentals. Im also happy to see that there is far less scoffing at USPSA/IPSC guys nowadays too. Subbed!
Hi Oliver, grip is the foundation to build from, especially if your a competition shooter as you end up shooting from all different positions.. but, most of the time your grip stays the same. ref your comment on USPSA/IPSC guys, Ive had this argument in operations for 25 years, I've noticed great operators will absorb the right advice from anyone who knows their stuff. Glad its working.
Just found this video. Have become so frustrated since having surgery on both thumbs for arthritis, and the tip joints on first and second fingers fused fo same. I think after watching this, I need to start over with pistol selection and a good instructor. Loved the video and glad it showed up.
I have been watching pistol videos for awhile trying to perfect my grip. I shoot very well but after about 15-18 yards start to suffer. These tips on grip, havent herd most of them yet and its just what I needed. Will deffinatly be trying these out next range session!
Had a 30 year NRA ccw instructor teach me with the "push" "pull" strategy and it helped me immensely.... so a right handed shooter would push into the gun with their right hand and pull with the left. Use this, you will be amazed.
I used to shoot low left no matter the handgun I was shooting, learned that trick and now it doesn't matter the gun. A couple shots and I'm on. Hope this helps!
Thank you!!! Ive been preaching this to other shooters , friends i shoot with and also instructors when the topic is presented. Most instructors shut me out because im not an instructor... myopic mindsets in instructors creates myopic minded students. So glad not to see that here , i love your targets and i like how you articulate your information. Done very neat and clean well organized. Its refreshing, without all the bs emphasis on needless talking points. Keep up the good work G.A. Havoc
Havoc I have to say, as a instructor you are completely right, I have met many instructors that don't know the salient points or explain the benefit to why you should or shouldnt use a certain technique. A good instructor explains why its of benefit. The student decides if it works for them
Guerrilla Approach-I just found your channel. I've been looking for something like for along time. I'll start training with these Accuracy Targets on my next visit to the range. Thanks giving these targets for free.
Outstanding video. Changing my grip years ago made me a MUCH better shot. I've practiced this grip technique and it made my shooting 10 times more accurate.
Pretty good stuff. It's about on par with what most of the heavier competitive shooters who use two hands are saying. I would say that a stronger "shooting hand" grip will cause problems with trigger press since the finger is doing something completely against the rest of the hand. That being said... With MUCH practice, you can have almost a death grip with the "shooting hand" and get away with it. But this is 1000's of rounds being able to master that type of grip strength with an isolated trigger finger. We used to say that if the grip stippling wasn't leaving marks in the hands, you weren't gripping tight enough.
I used the gripping technique on using the support thumb and it worked flawlessly! The trigger press was also improved and actually grouped a good pattern. Thank you!
Different size hands have different pull of the trigger. Here is the example, and it will be the 1911 pistol. The 1911 pistol slides back and forth, it does not pivot. Well, those of us with longer fingers still have to deal with a pivot, left or right depends on left or right hand. My right hand moves from right to left, in addition to the rear. It is how the knuckle and fingers were designed. I need a long trigger, and the arched mainspring housing. The large grip of the Glock helps. I agree about grip. I was told wrong by many experts (and they are experts) about not having a death grip. I decided that is a subjective term. And watching a video from Rob Leatham, I decided to try a much tighter grip, rather than a really firm grip. It helps. Well done.
Downloaded the target, I'm gonna try it out tomorrow! I've only been shooting pistols for 5 years, and accuracy and grip have always been a problem for me, but I never had a good instructor break it down so well for me. Excellent video, hopefully I can see some good improvement in my shooting.
Holy shit other than joe Weyer at alliance I have not heard anyone else say this shit. But it is so true. Generally if I fix someone’s grip it tightens their groups up way more than any other single thing I can help them with especially on new shooters. Subscribed! Keep it up
You posted few videos on your channel and hasn't done it again for a long time. And yet I found this and it was the best video on how do hold a pistol I've ever seen!!
@@ThreeSC First, he's imprinting in his student's mind awareness of muzzle discipline. Second, when addressing a group, the natural thing is to face them, not turn your back . . . imagine one of these guys taking the lesson home to teach his mates and handling his gun like he would if he turned downrange, but kept facing his guys . . . he would inadvertently track right across them, without thinking. Third, the fact that you noticed it, as did I, makes us think about what he's doing, and why. I have had exactly two negligent discharges in my life - almost ten years apart - once downrange (with a pistol I thought was empty) and once into a bookcase (trying to clear a round with a high primer from a revolver that was bound up) . . . no one got hurt, but trust me -- both times were a shock and either could have been a tragedy. # friendly fire sucks
Racemind Suspension & Wiring if you are a right handed shooter and your rounds go low left the gun was pointed low left. Where were your eyes / eye aimed? Unless you were purposely aiming low left you weren’t on the front sight AND tighten up your left hand grip + extend both arms out as far as they will go.
@@jasonpitts8395 Yeah the gun points low left when you pull the trigger without a proper grip. This means you shoot low left even if you're aiming correctly. Also you don't want full extension, a little bend in your elbows is good. It was all not gripping correctly with my support hand for me.
Racemind Suspension & Wiring you can’t shoot low and left if when you pull the trigger and the gun is aimed where you want. The bullet is down range before the slide even begins to move. The gun goes low left because of support hand grip for a righty and it was pointed there when you pulled the trigger. Grip your pistol with your strong hand and let it hang naturally. Stand in front of a mirror. Is the gun in line with your arm or canted to the right? If you shoot left I bet you $$ it’s canted to the right. No one teaches this part of the grip. You can’t see it unless you look in a mirror. Looking down at your hand won’t work. Try it and let me know. Glad you fixed your low and left. It’s obvious but people don’t think about this....if the holes aren’t where your eyes were aimed then the sights were lined up with your eyeballs when you pulled the trigger. I teach this all the time. It works
@@waynet8327 Wouldn't a ricochet up to someone right in front you be far more likely to hurt someone than a stray round falling to the ground out in the country?
@@chief1223, if you hit someone from stray bullet they're innocent, these guys in training if they got hit by ricochet bullet at least they know the risk of being there.
Great video! I can’t dig in much with my support thumb because I’m left handed and all of my pistols have the take down cross bar that sticks out exactly where my thumb should go. So this is good to hear.
When the intro showed you moving the shooter's thumb and telling him he shouldn't have movement there, I thought "oh no, another instructor who teaches like the placement of the thumbs is actually the important aspect of the grip..." But good thing I decided to continue watching, because then I noticed that you're including the thumb as part of the whole equation about making the most contact with the firearm with your support hand, which is 100% correct. So thanks for the informative video, I'll definitely be trying out some of the things you mentioned in this video that I do differently to see if it improves my performance.
REALLY good stuff! (Got me to subscribe) When I put my support thumb as far forward as a lot of people, it takes my palm off my grip on the support side. Great to hear someone give broader principles. ... I'm going to watch this again...
Totally agree with this. I was an Air Force combat arms instructor with 13 years experience and grip has been, is, and will always be a major pistol shooting issue. I see guys and gals all the time with solid basics but they are limp with the hands. I’m a police officer now and we are transitioning from .357 Sigs to the P320 in 9mm and one of the reasons is how much easier it is to shoot the 9 over the .357 cause of snappiness. The problem isn’t the round, it’s the fact that 98% of the shooters don’t grip the gun right.
I shoot often. And my shot is getting better and my group is definitely getting tighter but I often run into the low and to the left issue. And I’ve been working on trying to find the problem. And it’s not all the time but there are times where it seems like there’s nothing I can do to change it. Very informative video and I’m glad it isn’t just me lol
Great information!! I will apply this and get a better grip. Thanks!!
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Low left with my XDm 5.25 9mm... your video gaves me a solution to test. Sometime I can have good shot but 14 on 50 (at 25 meters no have closer range)... will try your method ;) Thanks for this video
And to think that I've been told I must not know what I'm doing with my grip (what you're prescribing) for years by "teacuppers," and by your typical Ranger Joe at the range. Yet, this absolutely will tighten up that shot group at a moment's notice.
I've shot lots of handguns during my time in the military but never for competitions, just a rough qualifications and the "training" for it wasn't great (big shocker I know haha). So, fast forward several years later I buy my first handgun and take it to the range. I find out I'm pulling lower and to the left. After 200 rounds it's slowly coming towards being just low. But, now I'm getting frustrated and start researching like crazy. Come to find out I'm cross eye dominant (right handed/left eye). Shot so much better but I'm a perfectionist, so now I'm researching: grip, pressure points, alignment, adjusting my sights, etc. and out of the several hrs of reading/watching videos this guy explains why I'm missing in the first 5 mins. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! I can't wait to test this at the range... and yes, I shoot a Glock 19 Gen 4.
Excellent video. I had a moment of epiphany while watching this video and came to the realization that Sight Picture, Grip, and Trigger Movement are inseparable. The best way to maintain a good sight picture is to have a vice-like grip on the pistol so that small deviations on the direction of trigger pull will not disturb the pistol after the shot breaks as the trigger completes its overtravel. Of course, one should still strive to pull the trigger straight to the rear without pushing or pulling the gun in any direction. Though, however miniscule, there will always be a small amount of torque applied to the pistol from the trigger pull. The idea is to minimize it by gripping the pistol as hard as humanly possible without sacrificing sight alignment and speed. At least this is how I understood the effects of grip on handgun accuracy.
the way you explained how a lot of people are training to improperly hold their arm all weird while firing a glock is not at all something I was ever trained as a full time cop on the glock 17, nor do i do it with my 43 with emp +2 mag extension. I train students and personally practice a basically traditional isosceles stance. Shoulders rolled forward to protect as much of your dome as possible from incoming fire and arms both fully extending, bringing the sights up to meet your eyeline, not lowering your head to the sights. Then at full presentation your spine should arc forward from the waist, your feet barely wider than shoulder width apart and your strong hand side foot about a half step back from your support hand (you have no "weak" hand). This is not a comfortable position to be stationary in but quickly trainable to reach. Squared up to the threat we're shooting at bc professionals wear body armor. Upon firing, the full extension of your arms and arc of your back will give recoil the farthest to travel: arms, shoulders, back, butt, legs, feet. The more you manage recoil, the more easy it is to maintain sight picture and alignment while putting rounds down range onto the enemy. And what's the best cover you can have? Your own accurate rounds going to the threat. I normally charge $50/hr to teach this stuff at my range but I don't pocket that, either. Always steel, clay pigeons, etc to buy...
The amount of information delivered in this video is VERY much appreciated! Now I know what I need to make a habit out of... Thank you so much for this video!!!
My extra long fingers completely wrap around my handgrip of my Sig P365X and touch the base of my thumb. There is no open area for my support hand on the handgrip. The trigger contact point on my trigger finger that results in a neutral trigger pull, where I am neither pushing the pistol to the left or pulling it to the right, is just before the first finger joint. If I try to contact the forward side of the grip module with my support hand thumb, it interferes with my protruding trigger finger. There is also insufficient room on the forward side of the grip module to support it with my thumb without also likely riding the slide. The best that I can do is cup my firing hand with my support hand. On the positive side, my grip is strong enough to visibly deform the polymer handgrip module.
This is a good video.i found it very informing.i have been shooting very acurate for many years with hi powered rifles.im wanting to get better at my acuracy with my side arm & after watching youre instruction video im practicing & getting better.thanks.
When the pistol is too large or small, one can not have a good grip. Wrap your strong hand fingers around the pistol grip. The tip of your thump ought to start being equal to your middle finger nail but not beyond the cuticle. Make sure the pistol is in line with your forearm.
Grip consistency is a huge issue for me, especially after a reload. I shot my first IDPA match of the season yesterday and did horrible! A lot of factors came into play, including I am sick, and it was cold out; both things I should be able to fight through and still do much better than I did; this is only my second season shooting competition. In reviewing my GoPro video, I can see some of the top of my gun and hands (I had the GoPro set for narrow, I need to set it for wider so that I can see my hands better), and I notice several times that my support hand thumb is not even touching the gun. If the thumb is not touching, how bad is my entire grip? I'm back at the range on Tuesday, I will watch this video again before I go. Thank you! And you have earned me as a subscriber with just this one video!
Double. I shoot comp with a Sig P320 Full size. (I carry a compact) When I saw horrible, I should point out that had I shot only 1/2 as good in a real, defensive situation, I probably would have walked away, but I got a lot of down 1s and 3s.
While gripping the gun with proper technique, try to apply inward twisting pressure with both hands into the gun. It will feel like the balls of your thumbs (the 1st joint where thumb attaches to hand) are squeezing the gun between them... you’ll notice the recoil will be much less, and follow up shots much easier. Also doesn’t hurt to practice transitions during dryfire practice gripping only with the left hand. Practice proper pressure and keeping the sight picture. Happy training 👍🏼
Link to target: guerrillaapproach.com/product/consistency-target-free/
Thanks!
The link doesn't work anymore - is there a new link? Thanks!
Edit: I was able to find it by poking around on the main website... Thanks again!
The link still works for me. Don't try to "buy" the target. Just click on the image, then right-click and "save as".
No, there was actually a problem with the link before. Clicking on the link just gave an error like, "error accessing database", or something like that. I just tried it again and now it works(showing the target).
Thanks for the link and the awesome video! 🔫🇺🇸✌🏽
Can't believe this knowledge is out here for free on youtube. Thanks for sharing
Dude the muzzle discipline makes me happy. Love the premise of this drill.
I started shooting like 4 years ago and this is by far the best instructional shooting I've listened to. I like the way you showed how to grip properly and why you do it. It really opened my eye on how grip is important.
Ive been shooting for almost 25 years, after 10's of thousands of rounds dowrange and several pistol instructions, Im still suffering grip issues that degrade my accuracy.
This video was right on time because about a month ago, I began the mission to break everything down and build everything back up, starting with my grip.
Thank you for this. This timely video is a sign I guess Im on the right track.
Maniac50AE double stack. 9mm and 45 acp, currently.
Too Salty.
Richard Mood constant evolution 🙂
Master Tracker if you’ve think getting “your shit together” is the goal, you’ve missed the point.
Get out and train. 😁
Master Tracker train with me. You pick the instructor ,I’ll buy your ammo. Deal?
While the grip plays a key role, the largest killer of accurracy is YOU. Most notably, building the stamina to hold steady on target and the ability to override the monkey brain instinct to anticipate. The single biggest thing to improve my skills was a .22 sig mosquito. Instant feedback from real live fire, but with reduced recoil and concussion to remove the involuntary reactions. Transitioning back to a carry round (9mm for me) brought my 3 yard groups in from a few inches over 10 rounds to about 3/4". Recently did a course centered around the 10' distance and through 150 rounds fired, I never had anything outside 3/4" of the intended point of impact. A few thousand rounds through a .22 while focusing solely on the fundamentals is what did it. Grip, Stance, Sight Picture, Trigger control, Follow through. Repeat.
I have watched countless grip videos, this one is a level above anything i've ever seen. Well done sir, thank you.
This has to be one of the best videos for shooting! Impressive!
This video is a big help. I work in law enforcement and during my first year I suffered big issues on the range with accuracy. We had several training officers overseeing recruits shooting. I kept getting the “You can’t shoot for shit” speech. When I asked what I was doing wrong, I was told “I don’t know I wasn’t paying attention.” They left it at that and I had to figure it out on my own.
And this is why most cops can't hit a bull in the ass with a handful of rice.
This is sad,because your life is on the line and by this response,it shows your training officers didn’t give a fuck whether you lived or died.You need to take personal initiative and responsibility and get training outside your department if they don’t care enough to train you well.I brought years of special operations training and combat experience to the job and I would have to say the academy taught me absolutely nothing I didn’t already know.
@@irishdefense77 Update: the training division has been re-staffed. They now set you up for success and will work with it till you get it right, within reason of course. It also helps that we are shooting 9 instead of 40.
Brother! Definitely was the GRIP. Went out to the range with your words and technique in mind, and immediately noticed my shot groups improve. Just saying THANK YOU and keep it coming.
Ron Avery does a very interesting module on grip where he has students take a sopping wet thick handtowel and wring it out hard, strong hand rotating knuckles down and support hand rotating knuckles up. That combination of gripping firming but also using counter rotational force was a real *lightbulb* moment. It gets your strong hand tensioning downward through the pinky and the supporthand grinding the meat of the palm into the top of the grip, under the slide lock. Friction and tension is what you're after. Doesn't take crushing hand/finger strength, just engaging the larger muscle groups in the correct direction with good grip coverage on the gun. Interesting stuff!
William Sack Avery is great
can you put a link to the vid, can not find it.. Thanks in advance
search on youtube for: "Ron Avery grip a gun like a pro", and "Ron Avery pliable hands" ....I think its in one of those. Three great video's on grip that go beyond the typical "where you put your hands" and get into some more conceptual info
Thank you, very helpfull
Interestingly enough, that is how I have always wrung out my sopping wet thick handtowels. Who knew I was training my muscles for a good pistol grip? If only I had continued my training, I wouldn't have to work on my grip...but seriously, it's also a far superior method of expunging liquid out of thick fabric. XD
Train grip strength.
Rolling thunder, pinch block, gripping plates, CoC hand grippers, deadlift. With training and nutrition, your hands can become incredibly strong. It takes that much less effort to control a weapon when your hands and fingers are strong.
It doesn't translate as effectively as other grip elements, but CoC recommends that you should be able to close a #2 gripper if you're in law enforcement.
Looks like a one way ticket to tennis elbow/ carpel tunnel ... just train with your weapon no need for CrossFit .
Fantastic stuff here. Lots of instructors will never go into this level of depth when it comes to grip and shooting positions. These students are definitely getting their money's worth!
Holy crap. Great explanation, and I'm only 4:30 in. I use MantisX and was averaging an 81 before this video. Paused at 4:30, did 50 rounds, bam I'm hitting 90's pretty regularly.
The contact/pressure diagram at 4:30 helped a LOT.
At 6:40 he mentions "accountability with my middle finger" somehow I initially thought that meant something else and could explain why I get into these gunfights in the first place:) Seriously now, one of the better vids on the topic.
This is the best instruction on grip technique I have ever seen. IT WORKS!
I've watched the vid 3 times to absorb what you were saying and think it through with dry fire. Then I went to the range and began to experiment with the "principles" and increase my speed. It worked! I mean it worked wonders on my ability to shoot accurately at speed. I still struggled to not want to over extend my support arm because that's how I have done it for years but my grip is a lot more solid thinking about locking the middle finger and pinky finger around my corresponding trigger hand fingers and indexing. Once that muscle memory is there, I feel like I'm going to be past a current plateau. Thanks man!
The key is to continue with your dry-practice. These are great principles and the instruction is fantastic, but the dry-practice is really what is paying the dividends here.
Started training with a new EDC about 2 months ago, a Glock 19. I love the gun but have been extremely frustrated with the low and left inaccuracy. I've been going to the range at least once a week trying to diagnose the problem and wasn't getting anywhere. Watched this a second and third time before going to the range this week and am amazed at the drastic improvement. Back on target! Thanks so much! Great info, great video!!
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I have shamelessly poached the information from this video an been incorporating it into my own practice as well as when training the guys at the company I work at. Thanks a lot for putting out great stuff!
He doesn't know what he's talking about! I've got almost 15 years of Call of Duty experience, it all about keeping your mouse hand loose!
That killed me 😂
Maniac50AE mouse and keyboard will always top a controller
Fingertip grip, or death.
JT Yearsley omg. I'm dying
ur still doing it wrong .u gotta be on console to be truly skilled
Holy damn! What a great drill!! I’ve been working on being consistent with speed and I’m shooting all over the place. This drill is exactly what is needed !!!
Great vid and thank you !
Excellent video. I finally took a pistol class and discovered my grip issues. Look forward to practicing more. I'll try this test out too
that's where i discovered mine ...
This is BY FAR the best explanation on how important a proper master grip ive ever seen.🇺🇲
His comment about new Glock shooters is right on. I have a new 17 and while I am getting good groups, they are a little low and left (7 o'clockish). This advise has helped me get back on track. Thanks!
Having carried and shot handguns for 41+ years, this is the best, bar none, explanation of grip pressure distribution. I have a tendency to miss straight left 2 - 3 inches at 7 yards with most of my handgun shooting regardless of caliber (40 and 45). I will place this information into practice...thanks.
Thanks for this, always low and left, tried this out the last 2 range trips and BIG difference. 👍
Good drill! Thank you for sharing!
thanks for the video. I've got a 10 year old who's getting into pistol shooting and that pressure applied to the lower fingers on the shooting hand and consistent pressure was a hard-learned lesson for me that I gained just last year in over 8 years of competitive shooting. your video is priceless and worth saving. yeah, I treasured that Eureka moment
Two thumbs up! This is by far the best and most detailed instruction on gripping a handgun.
Try looking up Lenny Magill combat grip. 👍🏽 makes this dude sound like he has no idea what he is talking about.
Mr. Barruga, thank you very much Sir, for taking the time to make this video, I will be applying these tactics next time I am at the range, stay healthy and safe!
I just started shooting 60 - 40 about a year ago and saw great Improvement in my accuracy with Beretta 92. Just wanted to make that comment before seeing rest of the video.
Excellent instructor! As a martial arts instructor master instructor, I've learned that there are great competitive martial artists that are terrible martial arts insturctors. I believe for any beginner handling the gun in non shooting positions will familiarize one with their weapon. I'm sure that every great shooter was once a beginner. Thank you Sir. You are a very good teacher.
Great video, I can't say thank you enough.
Totally agree. Been doing pistols competitively since 2010 and grip is one of the most underappreciated of the fundamentals.
Im also happy to see that there is far less scoffing at USPSA/IPSC guys nowadays too.
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Hi Oliver, grip is the foundation to build from, especially if your a competition shooter as you end up shooting from all different positions.. but, most of the time your grip stays the same. ref your comment on USPSA/IPSC guys, Ive had this argument in operations for 25 years, I've noticed great operators will absorb the right advice from anyone who knows their stuff. Glad its working.
Just found this video. Have become so frustrated since having surgery on both thumbs for arthritis, and the tip joints on first and second fingers fused fo same. I think after watching this, I need to start over with pistol selection and a good instructor. Loved the video and glad it showed up.
I have been watching pistol videos for awhile trying to perfect my grip. I shoot very well but after about 15-18 yards start to suffer. These tips on grip, havent herd most of them yet and its just what I needed. Will deffinatly be trying these out next range session!
Trigger finger placement and slow steady trigger squeeze
Had a 30 year NRA ccw instructor teach me with the "push" "pull" strategy and it helped me immensely.... so a right handed shooter would push into the gun with their right hand and pull with the left. Use this, you will be amazed.
@Nate C Yes if you are a right handed shooter, and ride the grip as high as you can go.
I used to shoot low left no matter the handgun I was shooting, learned that trick and now it doesn't matter the gun. A couple shots and I'm on. Hope this helps!
This video helped me figure out a good grip for my Glock, thanks for the free info
This the only video you got? Dude you nailed it on getting the most out of the shooter please more videos.
Thank you!!! Ive been preaching this to other shooters , friends i shoot with and also instructors when the topic is presented. Most instructors shut me out because im not an instructor... myopic mindsets in instructors creates myopic minded students. So glad not to see that here , i love your targets and i like how you articulate your information. Done very neat and clean well organized. Its refreshing, without all the bs emphasis on needless talking points. Keep up the good work G.A.
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Havoc I have to say, as a instructor you are completely right, I have met many instructors that don't know the salient points or explain the benefit to why you should or shouldnt use a certain technique. A good instructor explains why its of benefit. The student decides if it works for them
Guerrilla Approach-I just found your channel. I've been looking for something like for along time. I'll start training with these Accuracy Targets on my next visit to the range. Thanks giving these targets for free.
Outstanding video. Changing my grip years ago made me a MUCH better shot. I've practiced this grip technique and it made my shooting 10 times more accurate.
Pretty good stuff. It's about on par with what most of the heavier competitive shooters who use two hands are saying. I would say that a stronger "shooting hand" grip will cause problems with trigger press since the finger is doing something completely against the rest of the hand. That being said... With MUCH practice, you can have almost a death grip with the "shooting hand" and get away with it. But this is 1000's of rounds being able to master that type of grip strength with an isolated trigger finger. We used to say that if the grip stippling wasn't leaving marks in the hands, you weren't gripping tight enough.
I used the gripping technique on using the support thumb and it worked flawlessly! The trigger press was also improved and actually grouped a good pattern. Thank you!
Different size hands have different pull of the trigger. Here is the example, and it will be the 1911 pistol. The 1911 pistol slides back and forth, it does not pivot. Well, those of us with longer fingers still have to deal with a pivot, left or right depends on left or right hand. My right hand moves from right to left, in addition to the rear. It is how the knuckle and fingers were designed. I need a long trigger, and the arched mainspring housing. The large grip of the Glock helps. I agree about grip. I was told wrong by many experts (and they are experts) about not having a death grip. I decided that is a subjective term. And watching a video from Rob Leatham, I decided to try a much tighter grip, rather than a really firm grip. It helps. Well done.
Downloaded the target, I'm gonna try it out tomorrow! I've only been shooting pistols for 5 years, and accuracy and grip have always been a problem for me, but I never had a good instructor break it down so well for me. Excellent video, hopefully I can see some good improvement in my shooting.
Third video I watched on grip, very similar point's. Great job.
Outstanding video. Thanks for posting. 👍👍
Holy shit other than joe Weyer at alliance I have not heard anyone else say this shit. But it is so true. Generally if I fix someone’s grip it tightens their groups up way more than any other single thing I can help them with especially on new shooters. Subscribed! Keep it up
One of the best instruction blocks on here.
Very informative. Thanks.
You posted few videos on your channel and hasn't done it again for a long time. And yet I found this and it was the best video on how do hold a pistol I've ever seen!!
Use a repeater bb pistol It will show you the problem with your pull or squeeze. It will also show you how how to get your proper grip.
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The way you handle your gun is delightful to watch. That muzzle discipline is strict ♥
ferna2294 I agree. I wish everyone was that careful.
Agreed. I saw that and instantly subscribed. Not something I do carelessly.
i think it's kind of silly what he does pointing it in the air. Why doesn't he just turn the opposite way (down range).
@@ThreeSC First, he's imprinting in his student's mind awareness of muzzle discipline.
Second, when addressing a group, the natural thing is to face them, not turn your back . . . imagine one of these guys taking the lesson home to teach his mates and handling his gun like he would if he turned downrange, but kept facing his guys . . . he would inadvertently track right across them, without thinking.
Third, the fact that you noticed it, as did I, makes us think about what he's doing, and why. I have had exactly two negligent discharges in my life - almost ten years apart - once downrange (with a pistol I thought was empty) and once into a bookcase (trying to clear a round with a high primer from a revolver that was bound up) . . . no one got hurt, but trust me -- both times were a shock and either could have been a tragedy.
# friendly fire sucks
Pointing gun up vertically => instant DQ in IPSC. The right way is ALWAYS to point in a safe direction (the sky is NOT one of them).
Pretty sure this just fixed my down and to the left issue! Thanks so much. Keep posting videos please!
Racemind Suspension & Wiring if you are a right handed shooter and your rounds go low left the gun was pointed low left. Where were your eyes / eye aimed? Unless you were purposely aiming low left you weren’t on the front sight AND tighten up your left hand grip + extend both arms out as far as they will go.
@@jasonpitts8395 Yeah the gun points low left when you pull the trigger without a proper grip. This means you shoot low left even if you're aiming correctly. Also you don't want full extension, a little bend in your elbows is good. It was all not gripping correctly with my support hand for me.
Racemind Suspension & Wiring you can’t shoot low and left if when you pull the trigger and the gun is aimed where you want. The bullet is down range before the slide even begins to move. The gun goes low left because of support hand grip for a righty and it was pointed there when you pulled the trigger. Grip your pistol with your strong hand and let it hang naturally. Stand in front of a mirror. Is the gun in line with your arm or canted to the right? If you shoot left I bet you $$ it’s canted to the right. No one teaches this part of the grip. You can’t see it unless you look in a mirror. Looking down at your hand won’t work. Try it and let me know. Glad you fixed your low and left. It’s obvious but people don’t think about this....if the holes aren’t where your eyes were aimed then the sights were lined up with your eyeballs when you pulled the trigger. I teach this all the time. It works
Two things I like about this..1. He knows his stuff 2. he NEVER points the barrel to anyone. Safety first!
But instead of pointing up he should be pointing down the ground
Omg,so cool
Good eye safety Dan!
@@waynet8327 Wouldn't a ricochet up to someone right in front you be far more likely to hurt someone than a stray round falling to the ground out in the country?
@@chief1223, if you hit someone from stray bullet they're innocent, these guys in training if they got hit by ricochet bullet at least they know the risk of being there.
Great video! I can’t dig in much with my support thumb because I’m left handed and all of my pistols have the take down cross bar that sticks out exactly where my thumb should go. So this is good to hear.
We can always learn more. I like videos like this a lot!
@11:50, YOU are a BEAST sir! Wow! Great video and I enjoyed your instructions. Heading to the range tomorrow to further work on my grip! Thanks!
One of the best videos on pistol grip. Thanks for much needed tips!!
When the intro showed you moving the shooter's thumb and telling him he shouldn't have movement there, I thought "oh no, another instructor who teaches like the placement of the thumbs is actually the important aspect of the grip..." But good thing I decided to continue watching, because then I noticed that you're including the thumb as part of the whole equation about making the most contact with the firearm with your support hand, which is 100% correct. So thanks for the informative video, I'll definitely be trying out some of the things you mentioned in this video that I do differently to see if it improves my performance.
Great instructor, last guy I watched was painful.
On my glock 21 that was for duty use, i have small pieces of skateboard tape to "train" my fingers exactly where to be by feel. Worked well for me.
Great explanation on grip & fundamentals. Keep the vids rolling.
Thank you for the info and the target can't wait to practice this.
Excellent video, I like the way you explain the technique, practical shooting at it’s best.
REALLY good stuff! (Got me to subscribe) When I put my support thumb as far forward as a lot of people, it takes my palm off my grip on the support side. Great to hear someone give broader principles. ... I'm going to watch this again...
Totally agree with this. I was an Air Force combat arms instructor with 13 years experience and grip has been, is, and will always be a major pistol shooting issue. I see guys and gals all the time with solid basics but they are limp with the hands. I’m a police officer now and we are transitioning from .357 Sigs to the P320 in 9mm and one of the reasons is how much easier it is to shoot the 9 over the .357 cause of snappiness. The problem isn’t the round, it’s the fact that 98% of the shooters don’t grip the gun right.
Great channel. Subscribed!
Excellent instruction.
Very nice instruction!
I shoot often. And my shot is getting better and my group is definitely getting tighter but I often run into the low and to the left issue. And I’ve been working on trying to find the problem. And it’s not all the time but there are times where it seems like there’s nothing I can do to change it. Very informative video and I’m glad it isn’t just me lol
Great information!! I will apply this and get a better grip. Thanks!!
Low left with my XDm 5.25 9mm... your video gaves me a solution to test. Sometime I can have good shot but 14 on 50 (at 25 meters no have closer range)... will try your method ;) Thanks for this video
And to think that I've been told I must not know what I'm doing with my grip (what you're prescribing) for years by "teacuppers," and by your typical Ranger Joe at the range. Yet, this absolutely will tighten up that shot group at a moment's notice.
I've shot lots of handguns during my time in the military but never for competitions, just a rough qualifications and the "training" for it wasn't great (big shocker I know haha). So, fast forward several years later I buy my first handgun and take it to the range. I find out I'm pulling lower and to the left. After 200 rounds it's slowly coming towards being just low. But, now I'm getting frustrated and start researching like crazy. Come to find out I'm cross eye dominant (right handed/left eye). Shot so much better but I'm a perfectionist, so now I'm researching: grip, pressure points, alignment, adjusting my sights, etc. and out of the several hrs of reading/watching videos this guy explains why I'm missing in the first 5 mins. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! I can't wait to test this at the range... and yes, I shoot a Glock 19 Gen 4.
Nice I downloaded the target an I will try it this weekend nice of you to give and show this trainings for people that cannot go to your classes
Excellent video. I had a moment of epiphany while watching this video and came to the realization that Sight Picture, Grip, and Trigger Movement are inseparable. The best way to maintain a good sight picture is to have a vice-like grip on the pistol so that small deviations on the direction of trigger pull will not disturb the pistol after the shot breaks as the trigger completes its overtravel.
Of course, one should still strive to pull the trigger straight to the rear without pushing or pulling the gun in any direction. Though, however miniscule, there will always be a small amount of torque applied to the pistol from the trigger pull. The idea is to minimize it by gripping the pistol as hard as humanly possible without sacrificing sight alignment and speed.
At least this is how I understood the effects of grip on handgun accuracy.
Lots of good advise from people here thanks to all and the video as well!
Completely agree, grip has been overlooked for FAR too long.
the way you explained how a lot of people are training to improperly hold their arm all weird while firing a glock is not at all something I was ever trained as a full time cop on the glock 17, nor do i do it with my 43 with emp +2 mag extension. I train students and personally practice a basically traditional isosceles stance. Shoulders rolled forward to protect as much of your dome as possible from incoming fire and arms both fully extending, bringing the sights up to meet your eyeline, not lowering your head to the sights. Then at full presentation your spine should arc forward from the waist, your feet barely wider than shoulder width apart and your strong hand side foot about a half step back from your support hand (you have no "weak" hand). This is not a comfortable position to be stationary in but quickly trainable to reach. Squared up to the threat we're shooting at bc professionals wear body armor. Upon firing, the full extension of your arms and arc of your back will give recoil the farthest to travel: arms, shoulders, back, butt, legs, feet. The more you manage recoil, the more easy it is to maintain sight picture and alignment while putting rounds down range onto the enemy. And what's the best cover you can have? Your own accurate rounds going to the threat. I normally charge $50/hr to teach this stuff at my range but I don't pocket that, either. Always steel, clay pigeons, etc to buy...
The amount of information delivered in this video is VERY much appreciated! Now I know what I need to make a habit out of... Thank you so much for this video!!!
Thanks for making this free, I think this would be a great exercise to practice on.
Awesome video great information Sir!!
Great video. Breaks it down beautifully. Now, off to the range!
Great video, thanks for producing!
Great video, must be the tactical post office pants !!
Thankyou for the help brotha
Ive always shot how hes explained never liked having my support hand so foward. Thanks!
This is an exceptional drill! thanks for the target.
Awesome target. Cant wait to try it out. Thanks
Fantastic video Aaron....don't you just love all the keyboard commandoes! LOL!
Gino Gomez I'm sure they all shoot better than Aaron. Lol
Credit where credit is due. Outstanding video.
My extra long fingers completely wrap around my handgrip of my Sig P365X and touch the base of my thumb. There is no open area for my support hand on the handgrip. The trigger contact point on my trigger finger that results in a neutral trigger pull, where I am neither pushing the pistol to the left or pulling it to the right, is just before the first finger joint. If I try to contact the forward side of the grip module with my support hand thumb, it interferes with my protruding trigger finger. There is also insufficient room on the forward side of the grip module to support it with my thumb without also likely riding the slide. The best that I can do is cup my firing hand with my support hand. On the positive side, my grip is strong enough to visibly deform the polymer handgrip module.
This is a good video.i found it very informing.i have been shooting very acurate for many years with hi powered rifles.im wanting to get better at my acuracy with my side arm & after watching youre instruction video im practicing & getting better.thanks.
When the pistol is too large or small, one can not have a good grip. Wrap your strong hand fingers around the pistol grip. The tip of your thump ought to start being equal to your middle finger nail but not beyond the cuticle. Make sure the pistol is in line with your forearm.
Excellent training sir. I’ve just became a subscriber.
Thanks, I got a few good take a ways and I really like the warm up drill. Love your motto!
Great video, very informative. Can’t wait to get out there and try this out!
Grip consistency is a huge issue for me, especially after a reload. I shot my first IDPA match of the season yesterday and did horrible! A lot of factors came into play, including I am sick, and it was cold out; both things I should be able to fight through and still do much better than I did; this is only my second season shooting competition. In reviewing my GoPro video, I can see some of the top of my gun and hands (I had the GoPro set for narrow, I need to set it for wider so that I can see my hands better), and I notice several times that my support hand thumb is not even touching the gun. If the thumb is not touching, how bad is my entire grip? I'm back at the range on Tuesday, I will watch this video again before I go. Thank you! And you have earned me as a subscriber with just this one video!
Double. I shoot comp with a Sig P320 Full size. (I carry a compact)
When I saw horrible, I should point out that had I shot only 1/2 as good in a real, defensive situation, I probably would have walked away, but I got a lot of down 1s and 3s.
Maniac50AE when I shoot the 1911, it feels ver awkward in my hand, nor enough meat to grab onto, and I don’t feel in control of it.
Timothy Courtemanche I hope you get the improvement you are looking for. Good luck.
While gripping the gun with proper technique, try to apply inward twisting pressure with both hands into the gun. It will feel like the balls of your thumbs (the 1st joint where thumb attaches to hand) are squeezing the gun between them... you’ll notice the recoil will be much less, and follow up shots much easier. Also doesn’t hurt to practice transitions during dryfire practice gripping only with the left hand. Practice proper pressure and keeping the sight picture. Happy training 👍🏼