Yes I agree. Even I appreciate your candor and how gently you broke down the fact it's a clone. You showed great respect to the young guy's father, wife and to him. I feel a little sad for them it wasn't a real Shelby but he does have a nice base car with plenty of mods to hold the price up some when he sells it. Great video and I also really love that car. Also I love and respect the father's dedication to it over all those years. You could tell he really loved his Mustang. Thank you for posting.
Nice to see Jerry and Bob still took the time to make the trip anyway with an inkling that it wasn’t a genuine Shelby. Handled with respect like true gentleman.
People in the hobby are always talking about we need more young people in the hobby. Well, then do something to bring this about. What I mean is give some of your time to help.
I still have my father's original, #'s matching 67 Shelby GT 500. It's a California car with original black and yellow license plates. He bought the car in 1985. He passed in Feb 2002. It still has the 428 dual quads, police Interceptor engine. The vin tag matches the door tag. The car was never wrecked nor has rust. He wanted me to have the car when he passed away. I also have my 65 Mustang Fastback I got in 1988, while in high school. My father almost bought a 69 Boss 429, Wimbiton white, black , 4 speed. The gentlemen sold it for 15k -17k. RIP dad.
@@Davvel-VR I checked my garage, it's still parked there, just mailed the DMV renewal, ( California) this week, due in March. Also checked the Shelby Register, it's in there . In this case, I'm actually living the dream! 👈 You have to remember, 60's muscle cars were affordable in 1980's. Since then, supply is low, demand is higher today. 👈😎
Not sure about "affordable"@@johnclemans7802there was always a premium placed on Shelbys. If a normal Mustang was a certain price, Shelbys were at least double that price, whatever it was.
@@johnclemans7802what is Commiefornia bilking you out of for registration? These lizards that run this State hate old cars and by that I mean any car over 10 years old.
She was great, it obviously meant a lot to her husband but she’s happy to just have her sons and a good life. You can’t buy that sort of happiness. It’s still worth good coin as a starting point for someone that can’t afford a Shelby, most of us, but would be happy with a clone.
Thanks as always for showing us the human story/history behind the car, *Jerry* . We've discussed before why that's the reason I've always been drawn to your work over the years. On this one, it's sort of sad the family has no interest in the car, but I suspect that scenario will be happening more and more in coming years with many folks and our older cars, sadly. Thanks again and see you on the next one. 🙂 - Ed on the Ridge
They were in no hurry to sell the car, so we'll see. It's always a pleasure to read your posts, so thanks for your continued support. I read every comment.
Fastbacks are extremely hard to come by. It may not be a true Shelby but any ford guy would love to have it. I wouldn’t sell it for less than $20k. There’s a ass for every seat
Shelby vehicles had cosmetics and performance. The subject vehicle has much of the cosmetics; not much, if any, of the performance. It would be very expensive to upgrade the suspension and drive train to Shelby specs.
@65csx83 it's already got the 351 already plus you have no idea what upgrades have been done to the suspension in it's life time. Don't count your chickens.
@@markreisen7038 The video seemed to focus on the positives. If there were notable performance upgrades, I suspect they would have been mentioned. The owner was likely satisfied with the feel and appearance of a Shelby.
Soon as you panned across the interior I could tell it was a clone. 67 FB are still cool and still worth some serious money. You two handled the family very well. Still waiting on the next video for your car Jerry! Can't wait to see it!
I've got cars hidden in storage that my grandparents/parents bought, some new. It doesn't matter that they may or may not be someone else's gem, but they are my gems.
I have always wanted a 67 or 68 I was born in 68 I made a clone 69 boss and it's moved on and now I have a 65 289 HO some Day I Dream of finding a good 67/68 to have. An build me nice Driver car . Thinking it might be my last project Car with a family I never got to really have it for long something always came up and had to part with them. My kids are all grown up and it's time to live my Dreams. Thanks for the great videos and. I like the you handled a Difficult thing like with passing of things of of a Loved ones Dreams. God Bless you All. Thanks Dale
What a great family, Mom seems like a great matriarch of the "clan". Can't help but feel she still misses her husband greatly? I hope the son really thinks the sale of the car through as once Dad's car is gone it generally is gone forever. I would pay through the nose to have something like this touched and owned by my father! Thanks for sharing the families story, the story is what normally makes these cars so special. 😊😊
About 1977 i recall seeing a Shelby, cannot recall the year , but late sixties. Was on a used car lot , 2250$ written on the windshield . Gave it a look , pretty good shape
Man its still a beautiful example of a 67 fastback with a ton of history, if that car could talk i would listen for days! I would love to stumble upon such a great example of a mustang. looks awesome, not overly expensive not too far gone but still a unicorn. I love truly love her. Its so weird to me that people can not just be in total love with these cars but at least the kid was honest i have a feeling one day he might kicking himself for selling her 😢
@@robert5 the deals are out there, but you have to be quick and decisive. Mine was a smokin' good deal. It had been listed for an hour. I contacted the owner and said I'd be right over. He said he was going to dinner with his wife but the car was in the driveway and I could check it out while they were gone. I gave it a once-over in the dark although I would have preferred to get it on a lift prior to purchase. I waited in their driveway until they got home. and we made a deal on the spot with the $1000 cash deposit I came with. He showed me his phone and he had had 60+ messages over dinner, from people wanting to buy it sight-unseen, but I was first. You just have to be a coiled spring waiting for the perfect opportunity. I waited about five years.
I hope they sell it for a decent price and it gets restored. Not ending up like another Eleanor clone 😂. Hagerty says 43k for a condition 4. Since its not matching numbers anymore but with fastbacks getting harder to find i still think they can fetch 37k if it runs
Title shouldn't be a problem if the vehicle was titled in Michgan they can apply for a lost title and the state DMV should reissue a new title in the family's name.
A well built 302 in that fastback makes for a lot of fun. Especially since you know now it's not a real Shelby and you can actually go out and have a ton of fun in it.
@@thewriter2549 I’m enjoying catching up on some episodes I’ve missed and the one with the gal that had her dads 455 SD, I hope she can get her kidney transplant and is able to live a healthy long life
Sooooo, Dad was a scammer, and her wedding ring is probably a cubic zirconia. The thing that gets me is that these people would have a professional come out to their garage and ask them to inspect a car that's tucked into a corner.
A friend in high school bought a mint condition 65 k gt fastback for12 k and his friend bought a 69 cougar with a 351 w motor I had the opportunity to buy a 1970 boss 302 with incorrect Motor for $3500 back in the 80s.maybe should have
The bondo, I know what you mean, but did you hear what Bob said toward the end of the video? He said the shock towers had rust. So, it looks like the repair was done to fix the rust. But, this was not a good job and it needs re-done by a professional body shop, like Jason White in our restoration series on my 1967 Shelby.
I bought a 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400 with factory Ram Air bucket seats no tach in the hood and 4 33 rear end 4 speed, it was Verdoro Green not orange like most of them, I know it was a rare car , I had to sell it when I got drafted in 1970 , I couldn't make the payments. It was a great running car , but it just could not get out of the hole with those wide oval tires it came with , needed ladder bars, I turned 13:70s with it even with horrible wheel hop.
I sold a running driving C code with a three speed manual for 20K back in 2018. It had rust at one time but it had recent rust repair. Today I think that that car would sell for 30k. I think that this car, with rust and not running is a 20k car.
To bad it wasnt a real Shelby Mustang. But its still a Sportsroof! I had one in my youth, 2+2, 289, manual trans and of course i wish i would have kept it.
This car is still worth a good amount of money, I mean, 20kish? Looking around in socal where I am, you cannot approach a late 60 muscle car for under 20k, this being a fastback is a big deal. If someone gets it to run, maybe new tank, lines, and clean the carb, like a weekend of work, it would be snapped up no problem where I am. In other areas, its hard to know.
You should do a story about all the car guys dying and leaving their cars to their kids who don’t care about them and flippers just buying them up and ruining the market
289 doesnt mean dead in the water, it means it could have been a 350, I saw one years and years ago for 20 grand, they did exist and they used the small block 289 instead of the 428
Yes, the 289 High Performance solid lifter four barrel, which is the K-code was the 1967 Shelby GT350's engine. I think we said "C" code, which is the 289-2V, that negates any possibility this fastback could be a Shelby. And this car was born a C-code.
@@thewriter2549 ah, does that K code Also mean 289 Hi Po by any chance as well granted I didnt know it had solid lifters if it is however still though, 67 Fastback, still not a bad catch, could ironically sell it to the guy who found the Bullitt mustang in Mexico as he found it as of all things he wanted to build an Elenor Clone and then found that in a junkyard, and to think someone wanting to build a shelby clone literally resulted in them finding the long lost stuntcar from Bullitt and it still had the remains of the Shelby GT350 Wheel that Mcqueen used in it too
It's a really cool money pit! spend spend spend then spend a little more and you'll have a nice car to cruise around in. Fortunately you didn't have to buy it so you should be able to make your $$$$ back if you decide to sell it!
It's still a 67 fastback. Not a goldmine, but still a desirable car. I'd love to have it myself.
You two handled that with great respect for the family. The car has a real future if they follow Bob's advice.
Yes I agree. Even I appreciate your candor and how gently you broke down the fact it's a clone. You showed great respect to the young guy's father, wife and to him. I feel a little sad for them it wasn't a real Shelby but he does have a nice base car with plenty of mods to hold the price up some when he sells it. Great video and I also really love that car. Also I love and respect the father's dedication to it over all those years. You could tell he really loved his Mustang. Thank you for posting.
Great video. Thank you to Mom and Son showing us the Mustang. I really enjoyed the picture board she had made.
Nice to see Jerry and Bob still took the time to make the trip anyway with an inkling that it wasn’t a genuine Shelby. Handled with respect like true gentleman.
People in the hobby are always talking about we need more young people in the hobby. Well, then do something to bring this about. What I mean is give some of your time to help.
I still have my father's original, #'s matching 67 Shelby GT 500. It's a California car with original black and yellow license plates. He bought the car in 1985. He passed in Feb 2002.
It still has the 428 dual quads, police Interceptor engine. The vin tag matches the door tag. The car was never wrecked nor has rust. He wanted me to have the car when he passed away.
I also have my 65 Mustang Fastback I got in 1988, while in high school.
My father almost bought a 69 Boss 429, Wimbiton white, black , 4 speed. The gentlemen sold it for 15k -17k.
RIP dad.
Oh jeez. That’s worth a small fortune
The shelby gt 500 is not a rare car , everyone in the youtube comments seem to have one . or just a (dream) story.
@@Davvel-VR I checked my garage, it's still parked there, just mailed the DMV renewal, ( California) this week, due in March. Also checked the Shelby Register, it's in there . In this case, I'm actually living the dream! 👈
You have to remember, 60's muscle cars were affordable in 1980's. Since then, supply is low, demand is higher today. 👈😎
Not sure about "affordable"@@johnclemans7802there was always a premium placed on Shelbys. If a normal Mustang was a certain price, Shelbys were at least double that price, whatever it was.
@@johnclemans7802what is Commiefornia bilking you out of for registration? These lizards that run this State hate old cars and by that I mean any car over 10 years old.
Even if it is a clone it still is worth money
“Life is good!” ❤ Exactly! ❤ Thanks for another great video! ❤️👍👍
Thanks
She was great, it obviously meant a lot to her husband but she’s happy to just have her sons and a good life. You can’t buy that sort of happiness. It’s still worth good coin as a starting point for someone that can’t afford a Shelby, most of us, but would be happy with a clone.
Interesting story! Great job Jer!
I'd rather have a clone, I won't cry as much when something happens to it lol
Thanks as always for showing us the human story/history behind the car, *Jerry* .
We've discussed before why that's the reason I've always been drawn to your work over the years.
On this one, it's sort of sad the family has no interest in the car, but I suspect that scenario will be
happening more and more in coming years with many folks and our older cars, sadly.
Thanks again and see you on the next one. 🙂
- Ed on the Ridge
They were in no hurry to sell the car, so we'll see. It's always a pleasure to read your posts, so thanks for your continued support. I read every comment.
More for the rest of us!
Fastbacks are extremely hard to come by. It may not be a true Shelby but any ford guy would love to have it. I wouldn’t sell it for less than $20k. There’s a ass for every seat
As a Mustang fan since the 60's, I'd love it either way.
I think deep down the wife knew it was too good to be true. I feel like she was disappointed for her son, even if he isn't a car guy.
He doesn't always pay a fair price unless he goes in with Rawlings for certain cars. To me that's about a 20,000-25,000 dollar car all day, all in.
Shelby vehicles had cosmetics and performance. The subject vehicle has much of the cosmetics; not much, if any, of the performance. It would be very expensive to upgrade the suspension and drive train to Shelby specs.
@65csx83 it's already got the 351 already plus you have no idea what upgrades have been done to the suspension in it's life time. Don't count your chickens.
that's a too high because it not Shelby & don't run and needs quite a bit of work!
@@markreisen7038 The video seemed to focus on the positives. If there were notable performance upgrades, I suspect they would have been mentioned. The owner was likely satisfied with the feel and appearance of a Shelby.
Great video and story as usual!
Nice job guys, you were very upfront and honest with them.
Its a 1967 Mustang Fastback, it's doesn't even matter if it's not a Shelby.
Soon as you panned across the interior I could tell it was a clone. 67 FB are still cool and still worth some serious money. You two handled the family very well. Still waiting on the next video for your car Jerry! Can't wait to see it!
I've got cars hidden in storage that my grandparents/parents bought, some new. It doesn't matter that they may or may not be someone else's gem, but they are my gems.
Sounds like possibly a really good story. Could you email me about this? Or call? -- jerryheasley@gmail.com or 806-236-3681
Nice story Jerry and Bob.
Nice people all around, and a dilemma for the families of a lot of us older car owners. So very sorry for the loss of her husband , his father.
I have always wanted a 67 or 68 I was born in 68 I made a clone 69 boss and it's moved on and now I have a 65 289 HO some Day I Dream of finding a good 67/68 to have. An build me nice Driver car . Thinking it might be my last project Car with a family I never got to really have it for long something always came up and had to part with them. My kids are all grown up and it's time to live my Dreams. Thanks for the great videos and. I like the you handled a Difficult thing like with passing of things of of a Loved ones Dreams. God Bless you All. Thanks Dale
Still a nice car. Hope he gets it running, then he can make an honest sale. I’m kinda of envious lol
Great of you two to go and be real with them 👍
Bob Perkins needs to be protected at all costs he is a national treasure! I write him in for President! The amount of knowledge is incredible!
Definitely an Asset to the Mustang hobby, Jerry too, they make this hobby even better
If you have to find out if it’s real or not, it’s great to have pros help you out! Thanks for the video!
Was hoping you would do a follow up of the guy in Wisconsin with the 70 Boss 302 Mr. Perkins and yourself went to look at ..
I agree. We would except no change.
I’d rather have a clone. Then I wouldn’t feel bad for making it a daily driver. 😛
Intriguing situation. They are dead set on selling. Sad after all the family history that car has. Different generation
My '67 Fastback is a 289 and its a fun car. Sometimes its nice to not have a overly rare car that you can drive and enjoy.
What a great family, Mom seems like a great matriarch of the "clan". Can't help but feel she still misses her husband greatly? I hope the son really thinks the sale of the car through as once Dad's car is gone it generally is gone forever. I would pay through the nose to have something like this touched and owned by my father! Thanks for sharing the families story, the story is what normally makes these cars so special. 😊😊
I talked to him recently and I think he is actually considering it.
I have my old 69 T-Bird with 429 police special,,,,is that correct for a mustang? I believe Chiltons had it down for 370hp, runs fine.
That’s still a badass mustang! 100% would restore and drive it
Awesome attitude!
Very nice family and they still have a very nice classic car.
About 1977 i recall seeing a Shelby, cannot recall the year , but late sixties. Was on a used car lot , 2250$ written on the windshield . Gave it a look , pretty good shape
Do you take a photo?
Man its still a beautiful example of a 67 fastback with a ton of history, if that car could talk i would listen for days! I would love to stumble upon such a great example of a mustang. looks awesome, not overly expensive not too far gone but still a unicorn. I love truly love her. Its so weird to me that people can not just be in total love with these cars but at least the kid was honest i have a feeling one day he might kicking himself for selling her 😢
stick around he may not
@@thewriter2549I believe I live in the area of this car and could be of help to them, I know a local appraiser who restores Mustangs
well handled ~ touché‼️
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What a neat video.❤
This car has a great back story. It is a desirable model, Get it running and you will do well selling it.
Might not be a shelby but its still a nice classic
Did anyone check the opposite side vins just curious ???
my 65 fastback (not a Shelby) sat in a barn in Wisconsin from 1972-2009. I wonder how many more are still out there waiting to be discovered.
Plenty but all to often the owners want a fortune for them so kinda wast of time unless you got deep pockets.
@@robert5 the deals are out there, but you have to be quick and decisive. Mine was a smokin' good deal. It had been listed for an hour. I contacted the owner and said I'd be right over. He said he was going to dinner with his wife but the car was in the driveway and I could check it out while they were gone. I gave it a once-over in the dark although I would have preferred to get it on a lift prior to purchase. I waited in their driveway until they got home. and we made a deal on the spot with the $1000 cash deposit I came with. He showed me his phone and he had had 60+ messages over dinner, from people wanting to buy it sight-unseen, but I was first. You just have to be a coiled spring waiting for the perfect opportunity. I waited about five years.
More than most people realize, keeps it interesting!
Even it being a clone it's still worth 10g or more depending how much rust
The big giveaway about the authenticity is the photo she pointed out when the car was brand new...it has no GT 500 logo on the bottom of the wing.
You traveled right by me, literally, you could have stopped in to see my two Mustangs
luv the comment either way he is a winner!! gold
Nice coverage Jerry. Still a cool car.
Definitely 20-grand plus
I’m in Michigan! How much do they want for it ?
I hope they sell it for a decent price and it gets restored. Not ending up like another Eleanor clone 😂.
Hagerty says 43k for a condition 4. Since its not matching numbers anymore but with fastbacks getting harder to find i still think they can fetch 37k if it runs
37K? good luck with that
Old Cars puts a #3 67 fastback @ $25,520 and goes all the way up to $56,700, so you can do the math. Fastback Mustangs always in demand.
What are your thoughts on the value of the car as it sits? I would think around 16k US maybe less since there is no title.
Title shouldn't be a problem if the vehicle was titled in Michgan they can apply for a lost title and the state DMV should reissue a new title in the family's name.
@@markreisen7038 If they do indeed do that. As it sits it has no title.
Love the 302 engine; only got to experience it in a 87 Lincoln MKVII w/ 80k miles
A well built 302 in that fastback makes for a lot of fun. Especially since you know now it's not a real Shelby and you can actually go out and have a ton of fun in it.
Shelby or not, I wouldn't be hanging crap from the gararage rafters over it😎
What a nice young man he is...
Best channel on UA-cam hands down
Wow, thanks, makes the hard scrabble work feel worth it. I try to do people right, treat them like I'd like to be treated.
@@thewriter2549 I’m enjoying catching up on some episodes I’ve missed and the one with the gal that had her dads 455 SD, I hope she can get her kidney transplant and is able to live a healthy long life
Contact Dennis Collins at coffee walk!
Sooooo, Dad was a scammer, and her wedding ring is probably a cubic zirconia. The thing that gets me is that these people would have a professional come out to their garage and ask them to inspect a car that's tucked into a corner.
That's Alfred Hitchcock.
How about the white Harley Sportster sitting there?. For sale?
Great video, the Shelby parts are valuable anyway, do you think if they got it running it’d be worth maybe 15k?
22000
20-plus for sure. I bet that would run that afternoon
I just love people! An Awesome lady and the kid is great too!!
Same here, I do it and I agree with your assessment.
Love the car
A friend in high school bought a mint condition 65 k gt fastback for12 k and his friend bought a 69 cougar with a 351 w motor I had the opportunity to buy a 1970 boss 302 with incorrect
Motor for $3500 back in the 80s.maybe should have
There were no Shelby 500s with an automatic, were there?
Hello. Are you in Lubbock Texas? That 806 area code is Lubbock. I think Amarillo too
I am near Amarillo.
Retromodded Mustangs will always have value. Bondo on the fender aprons scares me.
The bondo, I know what you mean, but did you hear what Bob said toward the end of the video? He said the shock towers had rust. So, it looks like the repair was done to fix the rust. But, this was not a good job and it needs re-done by a professional body shop, like Jason White in our restoration series on my 1967 Shelby.
@@thewriter2549 All those parts are available. That's the great thing about Mustangs.
Amazing how every car has a compelling story.
Yes, especially specialty collector cars because so many people want them and have gone through so much to get them.
The vin number would tell you right away.
Kind of sad they want to get rid of it, but maybe that's what they need to help them move on.😮
lol my only passion at 21 was cars, woman, food, and having a good time
Ary men
Ay men o well
In that order !
Yup
Your an awesome lady I like how you look at life ❤
You know I thought the same.
Well.. now the kid knows the right guy so keep the car and fix it. :)
That might be what happens here. I hope so.
It was their Husband/Father’s car, that’s worth way more than anything!!!
I bought a 1968 Pontiac Firebird 400 with factory Ram Air bucket seats no tach in the hood and 4 33 rear end 4 speed, it was Verdoro Green not orange like most of them, I know it was a rare car , I had to sell it when I got drafted in 1970 , I couldn't make the payments. It was a great running car , but it just could not get out of the hole with those wide oval tires it came with , needed ladder bars, I turned 13:70s with it even with horrible wheel hop.
Verdoro was white-hot for these, back then. A very desirable color
Boy, that's not how I drill out rivets. Yikes!
So what’s it worth?
I sold a running driving C code with a three speed manual for 20K back in 2018. It had rust at one time but it had recent rust repair. Today I think that that car would sell for 30k. I think that this car, with rust and not running is a 20k car.
That Mommy knew from the get go it was not an original.
To bad it wasnt a real Shelby Mustang. But its still a Sportsroof! I had one in my youth, 2+2, 289, manual trans and of course i wish i would have kept it.
What do you mean my 69 BOSS is actually a VW kit car?!!!
good one
I’ll buy it right now
Man wish my dad had it. I’d just restore it.
Good to know!
This car is still worth a good amount of money, I mean, 20kish? Looking around in socal where I am, you cannot approach a late 60 muscle car for under 20k, this being a fastback is a big deal. If someone gets it to run, maybe new tank, lines, and clean the carb, like a weekend of work, it would be snapped up no problem where I am. In other areas, its hard to know.
You should do a story about all the car guys dying and leaving their cars to their kids who don’t care about them and flippers just buying them up and ruining the market
This is truly sad, his Dad loved this car, and this kid just pisses away his Dad's Dream.
Dad prob thought his grandson would end up with the car one day.
Not everyone is into someone else's dream
Unfortunate for the mom, but looks like she wasn't surprised, like there was a 50/50 shot it was a genuine Shelby
Would they accept $10,000 usd ?
289 doesnt mean dead in the water, it means it could have been a 350, I saw one years and years ago for 20 grand, they did exist and they used the small block 289 instead of the 428
Yes, the 289 High Performance solid lifter four barrel, which is the K-code was the 1967 Shelby GT350's engine. I think we said "C" code, which is the 289-2V, that negates any possibility this fastback could be a Shelby. And this car was born a C-code.
@@thewriter2549 ah, does that K code Also mean 289 Hi Po by any chance as well
granted I didnt know it had solid lifters if it is however
still though, 67 Fastback, still not a bad catch, could ironically sell it to the guy who found the Bullitt mustang in Mexico
as he found it as of all things he wanted to build an Elenor Clone and then found that in a junkyard, and to think someone wanting to build a shelby clone
literally resulted in them finding the long lost stuntcar from Bullitt
and it still had the remains of the Shelby GT350 Wheel that Mcqueen used in it too
All the son cared about was the money. So bummed it wasnt real you can see it in his face. Still a 67 fastback that id kill to have.
Dennis collins ? Gotta believe he would want it and would be fair in the deal.
I’d buy it
I would love to have that car. Someone inherit one to me. 🤣
Creative use of the word inherit. If anybody is inheriting a car of special interest, I would like to do a video on the process.
He needs to get ahold of Dennis colinns he will buy it for sure Okay thanks Charles Williams
It's a really cool money pit! spend spend spend then spend a little more and you'll have a nice car to cruise around in. Fortunately you didn't have to buy it so you should be able to make your $$$$ back if you decide to sell it!
No one really cares about the money, it's like saying; "You're never gonna make money practicing your golf swing!" Same idea.
Poor kid - guess were all flawed humans. Contact Dennis Collins he will buy that, the chubby guy will drive to get it
25k-30k....its still a 67 fastback.
Call Dennis Collins in Texas. He will buy it. Or richard Rawlings with gas monkey.