The writing is so good here. Even down to how it’s the Baroness who starts the sensitive topic of discussing Danielle’s mother, and then she quickly explodes at Danielle for saying “I wish I knew what she looked like” when all Danielle did was answer her question. That kind of mental abuse where you get blamed for saying or doing something when all you did was respond to the tone or question the other person gave you. To live with someone like that is so insufferable. And it’s almost as if (and it makes the whole situation worse) the stepmother doesn’t seem aware she’s doing it. She snaps at Danielle but her words are also not unkind, yet her tone feels sharp and pointed. She straddles that line between helpful and well intentioned but also sharp and like she could explode at any time. The mental uncertainty of not knowing which side of the person you are about to get, whether they’re about to say something kind or gut punch you and leave you wounded. That subtle kind of menace which makes a person like Danielle live in complete fear is so well delivered here and so accurate to what emotional abuse is like for many people in real life. Great scene!
Agreed. This film instantly became 1 of my favorites & still is till this day. I believe I gave this film a rating of 8/10 on IMDb. I'm a big fan of movies, always have. Just another film buff! & I'm also tad harsh when I rate movies I've seen. I think most of my ratings are mainly 4/10 & I've never rated anything 9/10 or 10/10. So (for me), a film has to be incredible to be rated high. & that's exactly what "Ever After: A Cinderella Story" is incredible! The cast, the story, wardrobe, location setting, all of it gave us (fans) a film to love & treasure forever. & frankly (& this may be because I grew up during that era), but movies that came out during the 90s & 2000s seem to be a lot better than the stuff they make today. Or maybe it's not just me who feels that way since the studios keep remaking or making sequels to 20-30 yr old films that did great back then.
@@StevenAdams-zj8txthere were subtle hints. When the father died and only looked at Danielle and only said “I love you” to her, the baroness looked instantly jealous. Her main goal was for her and her daughters to be first place in his heart and in that household but that death scene shows that Danielle mattered most to him. That’s why she looked sentimental but it was out of selfishness, not out of love.
I really liked how they did the characterization of the stepmother in this Cinderella because it shows the reality of how getting bitter blinds u to any connection u can have w others. And at worse even cause u to be an abuser. It’s a very human presentation instead of just being 1 dimensional
“No matter how bad things get, they can always get worse.” This was definitely foreshadowing when The Baroness and Margaritte fall into the dye bath when they become servants at the end of the film.
This scene shows that the true tragedy is that had Danielle's father lived, these two might have been able to find a way to bond. We get a near glimpse of what could have been
I will say that when Danielle asks if the Baroness loved her father, the Baroness seems unwilling to share her feelings. She seemed devastated when he died in the beginning, yet she claims she barely knew him. Maybe Danielle’s father and her were both lonely for companionship as they shared the loss of their spouses and found a common bond. Maybe it was out of necessity since women of nobility at the time married for money and status. Yet her marriage to a merchant seems like a huge step down from her noble status.
Too me, I feel that the Baroness loved Danielle's father. To an extent. The Baroness was jealous of Danielle, probably since before they even met. She said, "Hello Danielle, at last we meet, your father speaks of nothing else." The Baroness was sincerely devastated when Danielle's father died, but at the moment of him choosing to look at his daughter for last time & saying his last words "I love you" only towards Danielle, there's another issue to add to the Baroness's jealousy. & in the scene I shared above, I feel for just a split second she let her guard down & shared a sweet moment with Danielle. Baroness answering Danielle's question, "Did you love my father?" It's obvious that she did care alot about Danielle's father, you can see it & hear it in her voice but she didn't want Danielle to know that. Plus, she excused Danielle, & it's like you can tell she wanted to cry cause she missed him. But she just couldn't bare of anyone seeing that sincere side of her. Which probably made her hate Danielle even more. People are weird like that...
I think the baroness would have actually had a bond with Danielle if not for Marguerite. There were a lot of sicknesses in those times, too bad Marguerite did catch one and get buried next to Danielle's father.
True in this scene, it's like a mother/daughter's conversation. When the baroness says to Danielle she has so much of her father is normally something a mother says
@ChristopherFortinJr-iv8kg Absolutely agree with u! I've been trying to finish this "thing" I have been writing for a long time now, & my point is the "villain" in my story, is the biggest ultimate villain of all time, but still deep deep down inside him is his "shred of goodness."
No. The Prince would have married another royal, like a princess from another kingdom. Margarita, being the daughter of a Baroness, was too low on the aristocratic hierarchy to marry a prince.
@@monicag6715 Royalty cannot afford to marry for love, especially not in pre-modern times. Danielle could have become a royal mistress, though. A favourite of the prince. Throughout French history, the only king marrying for love that I can think of is Louis XIV (the Sun-King), but that was his second marriage, contracted later in life, in secret. He had already produced an heir (and plenty of bastards) by then.
The writing is so good here.
Even down to how it’s the Baroness who starts the sensitive topic of discussing Danielle’s mother, and then she quickly explodes at Danielle for saying “I wish I knew what she looked like” when all Danielle did was answer her question.
That kind of mental abuse where you get blamed for saying or doing something when all you did was respond to the tone or question the other person gave you. To live with someone like that is so insufferable.
And it’s almost as if (and it makes the whole situation worse) the stepmother doesn’t seem aware she’s doing it.
She snaps at Danielle but her words are also not unkind, yet her tone feels sharp and pointed. She straddles that line between helpful and well intentioned but also sharp and like she could explode at any time. The mental uncertainty of not knowing which side of the person you are about to get, whether they’re about to say something kind or gut punch you and leave you wounded.
That subtle kind of menace which makes a person like Danielle live in complete fear is so well delivered here and so accurate to what emotional abuse is like for many people in real life. Great scene!
Agreed. This film instantly became 1 of my favorites & still is till this day. I believe I gave this film a rating of 8/10 on IMDb. I'm a big fan of movies, always have. Just another film buff! & I'm also tad harsh when I rate movies I've seen. I think most of my ratings are mainly 4/10 & I've never rated anything 9/10 or 10/10. So (for me), a film has to be incredible to be rated high. & that's exactly what "Ever After: A Cinderella Story" is incredible! The cast, the story, wardrobe, location setting, all of it gave us (fans) a film to love & treasure forever. & frankly (& this may be because I grew up during that era), but movies that came out during the 90s & 2000s seem to be a lot better than the stuff they make today. Or maybe it's not just me who feels that way since the studios keep remaking or making sequels to 20-30 yr old films that did great back then.
I never understood why the baronsees seems sad and shows the lil emotion she did ? I never understood what made her cry or get sentimental?
@@StevenAdams-zj8txthere were subtle hints. When the father died and only looked at Danielle and only said “I love you” to her, the baroness looked instantly jealous. Her main goal was for her and her daughters to be first place in his heart and in that household but that death scene shows that Danielle mattered most to him. That’s why she looked sentimental but it was out of selfishness, not out of love.
I really liked how they did the characterization of the stepmother in this Cinderella because it shows the reality of how getting bitter blinds u to any connection u can have w others. And at worse even cause u to be an abuser. It’s a very human presentation instead of just being 1 dimensional
“No matter how bad things get, they can always get worse.” This was definitely foreshadowing when The Baroness and Margaritte fall into the dye bath when they become servants at the end of the film.
The way the baroness talk with Danielle in this scene is nearly like a mother does with her daughter
Agree. I guess she had a, "slip." & then heart shrank 3 sizes back down. But I love this movie!
This scene made me feel a little happy this is one moment Danielle thought she really cared for her
Nah it's a manipulated thing
Keep her in control
@@OliviaNguyen95 yes, and the baroness even says her own mother was rough with her (look like a confession)
@@tashakessinger it's even during the moment she says Danielle has things from her father is normally something a mother says to her daughter
This scene shows that the true tragedy is that had Danielle's father lived, these two might have been able to find a way to bond. We get a near glimpse of what could have been
I will say that when Danielle asks if the Baroness loved her father, the Baroness seems unwilling to share her feelings. She seemed devastated when he died in the beginning, yet she claims she barely knew him. Maybe Danielle’s father and her were both lonely for companionship as they shared the loss of their spouses and found a common bond. Maybe it was out of necessity since women of nobility at the time married for money and status. Yet her marriage to a merchant seems like a huge step down from her noble status.
Too me, I feel that the Baroness loved Danielle's father. To an extent. The Baroness was jealous of Danielle, probably since before they even met. She said, "Hello Danielle, at last we meet, your father speaks of nothing else." The Baroness was sincerely devastated when Danielle's father died, but at the moment of him choosing to look at his daughter for last time & saying his last words "I love you" only towards Danielle, there's another issue to add to the Baroness's jealousy. & in the scene I shared above, I feel for just a split second she let her guard down & shared a sweet moment with Danielle. Baroness answering Danielle's question, "Did you love my father?" It's obvious that she did care alot about Danielle's father, you can see it & hear it in her voice but she didn't want Danielle to know that. Plus, she excused Danielle, & it's like you can tell she wanted to cry cause she missed him. But she just couldn't bare of anyone seeing that sincere side of her. Which probably made her hate Danielle even more. People are weird like that...
It was not uncommon for a noble family with "troubled assets" to marry wealthy families of lower status
I think the baroness would have actually had a bond with Danielle if not for Marguerite. There were a lot of sicknesses in those times, too bad Marguerite did catch one and get buried next to Danielle's father.
True in this scene, it's like a mother/daughter's conversation.
When the baroness says to Danielle she has so much of her father is normally something a mother says
Even the wickedest of villains have at least a shred of goodness in them.
@ChristopherFortinJr-iv8kg Absolutely agree with u! I've been trying to finish this "thing" I have been writing for a long time now, & my point is the "villain" in my story, is the biggest ultimate villain of all time, but still deep deep down inside him is his "shred of goodness."
Her daughter would be Queen if it was a true story and Danielle would be her servant.
No. The Prince would have married another royal, like a princess from another kingdom. Margarita, being the daughter of a Baroness, was too low on the aristocratic hierarchy to marry a prince.
They tried - the Spanish princess who was crying. Remember?
Had she been a good person and raised Danielle like her own daughter, she still could’ve met the prince fell in love and they could’ve all benefited
@@Gsummer14 yup but ego got in the way
@@monicag6715 Royalty cannot afford to marry for love, especially not in pre-modern times. Danielle could have become a royal mistress, though. A favourite of the prince. Throughout French history, the only king marrying for love that I can think of is Louis XIV (the Sun-King), but that was his second marriage, contracted later in life, in secret. He had already produced an heir (and plenty of bastards) by then.