You didn't mention it, but what about having to walk on the roof? Sometimes vents, solar panels, ducts, etc. need to be working on, and you or a maintenance person will need to walk on the roof. Asphalt shingle provide some give and grit to hold reduce slipping. I would think a metal roof would be more prone to denting while being walked on or you just cannot walk on it at all lest you slip all the way to the ground on the slick surface. What's your perspective on 'walkability' between asphalt and metal roofing?
Thanks for the comment! That’s a good one and definitely something to consider. Especially with solar panels which would require routine maintenance like cleaning. They do make shoes meant to help traction on metal roofs like magnetic cougar paws but they are expensive and still not a fail safe. Shingles would definitely be my recommended option if roof walking is something that needs in the future.
One thing you didn't talk about is fire resistance. Here in the West, that is a huge issue. AFAIK, lots of building codes require class A fire ratings and most shingles can't meet that requirement without a complete system (underlayment, fastening, etc), whereas metal can meet it alone. I'm intrigued by metal shingles, which might be a good alternative.
That is a great point! Out here in the east that is not something we worry about much but it’s definitely something to be considered in your area. Thank you for sharing.
The garage on our house has a metal roof it is a product called ProSnap a large branch 5” fell on it with no damage but a dent in my car after it slid off the roof. I’ve seen hail damage destroy singled roofs leaving only unnoticeable cosmetic damage to the metal roof. Here in northern Illinois ice dams are a problem but not on metal roofing. The biggest draw back (besides price) is cosmetic, just doesn’t look right on some homes. Metal roofing should Never be nailed down but should be screwed down! Simple roofs no valleys… are fairly diy friendly our 16 year old son did most of the installation of the garage roof 15 years ago and later on the house.
I was almost sold on metal roof as several people I know got them but decided on certainteed structural shingles. Looks so much better and I got the light slate color witch contradict your black metal roof comment. Black roofing don't deflect heat It absorbs It.
Not true. Quality metal roofing has reflective paint applied. Just like any product, there are many quality levels of metal roofing available. The best products absolutely do not absorb a lot of heat, no matter the color. Also, a properly installed metal roof should have an air gap between it and the sheathing below, and the sheathing should be covered with a waterproof underlayment. An air gap below metal roofing extends the life of the entire roof assembly even further. You simply can't beat a high quality metal roof for longevity and durability.
I just put a corrugated metal roof on my shop (25x75) and lowered the temperature inside by 15 degrees I did the layover method and spent under $7500 all in labor included Even shingles overlayed would have been over 5k The best decision I ever made this roof will still be here when my grandson dies (though the screws (gaskets)will need to be changed every 25years or so)
I've been debating putting a metal roof on my home but I think I'm going to go shingles. I'm also scared about the cut edges of metal roofs being a rust starting point.
Thanks for the comment. Shingles is a great choice for most people. We recommend Owens Corning Duration if shingles is the direction you're leaning. A good metal roof installer will leave as few exposed cut edges as possible but it is definitely something to be considered.
Metal roof can give you a insurance discount, however you may have to sign a cosmetic waiver for the roof. I'm deciding what to go with here. Thanks for the info
@@carlsmith4767 I did the math on my large 75x25 shop/garage. The first roof (shingles)lasted 20yrs (with a couple of repairs) The cost to re-shingle was right at 6k the price for a metal roof overlaid was 7500 Since I will live here till I die I may lose(if I don't make 30 more years) BUT my son (and now grandson) that built next door will still have the shop roof without EVER spending a dime till after they die The metal roof is good for 100years+ The insurance discount is just a bonus
We are getting our roof replaced & deciding between metal and asphalt (leaning towards metal for the farmhouse look). This was a great & informative video, Thank you!
Everytime I watch a video I switch from metal to shingle & back again. One video by a roofer found by searching "disadvantages of metal roofs," he didn't install the metal roof but is repairing the roof, made some good points about the disadvantages of metal roofs. Of course, the video I watched before the "disadvantages video" made me want to get a metal roof. I'm so conflicted. It's not the metal that won't last, it's the installation that can be poor that can cause issues.
I used to install a lot of metal roofing, over shingles or over new sheathing.....and in hail country in nebraska, the metal outlived the shingles 10 to 1........
Thanks for commenting and great point. Living in hail country is a good example of where metal makes more sense than shingles. You may pay more upfront for the metal, but you’ll save in the long run not replacing your roof after every hail storm.
There are many kinds of metal and also asphalt shingles. Tile is an option as is cedar. Roofing companies and insurance companies are dictating what people have as options.
You didn’t bother to show the metal shingle roofing that is much less expensive. I was the first one in the Dallas area to put it on my roof in the 90s, it’s still there and will be there for the next 100 years. But I imagine it’s not high priced enough as it cost me only $2000 more to put that on my 3000 square-foot homethan a regular shingle roof - which I would’ve lost many times over in hailstorms in my area.
That’s a pretty uncommon material in our area of Pennsylvania so we didn’t include it. I really like it though and think it’s a great option. That’s great that it has survived the battering of hail you all receive.
Over the pond in the UK we hardly use the asphalt shingle - its been around a long time but has never become popular. Metal roofing is becoming more popular in new build houses but it's still a minority roofing material. Our most common roofing system is by far lightweight conrete tiles and for more expensive higher quality we still still use kiln fired ceramic tiles - usually teracotta coloured. The concrete tiles come in a variety of sizes, contours and finishes. There are also a few different colour options such as teracotto, dark grey and black finish. Because of the weather we don't usually need solar reflectrivity as we tend to want heat coming in rather than being reflected. A lot of barn conversions we have been popular over here for many years are now done in metal roofing panels. I personally don't like this contrast but it's far cheaper than thousands of individual tiles on a large roof. Interesting how America has never seemed to adopt brick built houses like we have done over here.
We have much respect for the roofing done over the pond. It seems the roofs and homes for that matter, are more generational in the UK. Homes are valued assets in the US but they feel a bit throw away sometimes with the materials we use to build. Metal roofing is certainly making its mark on the roofing industry here but shingles still dominate the market.
@@dreamworxroofing4955 Do you not have a greater choice of roof material in the US ? It would be an interesting project to see how housing developed over the 400 year or so period that has passed since emmigrants from Europe to the US brought their building skills with them and utilised them using the raw materials available to them. You can certainly see structural similarities in the east coast because that is where the first waves of immigrants landed. In the UK most of our houses are built from brick/block combinations. Stone was used massively in areas where ther was suitable sources of stone to be quarried. Sandstone in the north of England, granite it Scotland, Limestone in the Midlands, Flint in the south and granit e again in the south east. The main reason being that we had exhausted our sources of wood as the great forests in England and Scotland had been cut down to build houses and the huge amount of ships we needed to rule the seas. America seems to have favoured wood rather than stone or bricks. If you like houses and buildin England probably has the most diverse range of building techniques and designs in the world. From simple terraced houses to the huge Manor houses which our wealthy ancestors had built
I am still removing granules from my gutters, after 15 years with an OC shingle installation. It is clear this roofing will not last 20 much less 30 years. Cutting and forming metal is not a great mystery so why the roofing industry insists on premium pricing for metal roofing is questionable.
My mother has a black metal roof on her home. The paint on one side that's exposed to the sun all day has bleached out. Since it was installed about 15 years ago - good luck finding the contractor who installed it. I though about repainting the roof but I would need a boom to get up there to paint it - not a great option. In the mean time - I installed a high end shingle roof on my home and love the look of it much better than metal. Although recently they have started to come out with metal that looks more like a shingled roof which has me intrigued. BTW - quite moving around so much - you made me running for the bathroom...lol
Too much coffee that morning I suppose 😂. You’re right though, there are a lot of factors to consider like direction and how that will affect color over the years. Metal will definitely show more “bleaching” than shingles. Although, the paint on metal roofing has come a long way in 15 years so I’m curious to see what new panels will looks like in 15 years time.
Very very helpful, fair & thorough video comparison. I live in So. California about 1.2 miles from the Pacific Ocean, I'm leaning towards metal but do I need to use aluminum due to the potential for rust or am I far enough away from the coast?
I assume recoupment is based on immediate, say within a year, sales. After 5-10 years, the asphalt shingle roof is effectively worthless, but the metal roof still promises many trouble-free years.
Be VERY careful if you are considering metal roofing. Notice that this guy said the metal has a 40 year PAINT warranty. That's typical with metal roofing. What that means, is that if the systems pulls itself apart with expansion and contraction, you're out of luck, that's never covered with metal roofing. There's no one prefect roofing product, if there was, everyone would use it. Also, check out tile and slate roofing, they usually offer a warranty that is around 50 years.
That is exactly why we touched on warranties for asphalt vs metal. Many shingle manufacturers will also warrant the labor on the roof as long as it is installed by a factory certified contractor. You're right, there is no perfect roofing product. There is only the product that is right for a homeowners particular situation.
Right on, good video. asphalt shingle rated life, and warranties are not worth the shingle wrapper that they are written on. They are full of limitations ,and are pro rated and the only thing that they guarantee is that you might get a slightly reduced rate on the same roof that prematurely failed in the first place. If you want to see the reality of comp roofs just go to the local landfill where they dump it. What most people don't know is that metal roofs can be pressure washed, primed and repainted way down the road...and you have a brand new looking roof. Re painting, and roof restoration is common in many other countries.
It can be a problem with exposed fastener roofs for sure. There is always the option to rescrew them with 5/16 screws down the road. But definitely something to be considered.
Great information for me to choose between these two materials. Shingle is the one for me to go. My question is how long the batch of shingles can stay on top of roof before they are installed? I’m in mid 60 and I plan to do ourself (me and my wife). We plan doing area by area. It probably will take us for weeks to finish I think. I am afraid the shingle will melt together after long time on top of roof. Thanks in advance for your help in answering.
Glad you found the video helpful! Unless you have a flat area to store the shingles on the roof, I would only bring up onto the roof what you plan on installing that day. You want the shingles to be stored flat so they do not form a hump in the middle. If they were to be stored slumped over the peak of the roof, this could happen and the shingles could have a “hump” in the middle once installed. Whether they are on the ground or roof, they are packaged in a way that there is no need to worry about them melting together. Best of luck with your install and feel free to contact us if you need any assistance!
Metal roofing would be our choice for your area. Metal, when properly installed, can have a wind resistance of up to about 160 MPH. Clay tile or shingles would be your next best bet with a wind rating of about 130 MPH with special installation. With the metal roofing you will also get the benefits of the solar reflectivity, which could come in handy in your area.
My roof is exposed to sun from 5am til 10pm ZERO shade. I’m in the process of getting a new roof, but not sure what to do. Metal or Shingles? The shingles now are brittle and hail damaged. Is metal much better in Minnesota at 26 gauge?
Looking to do a metal roof , can you talk about heat retention on metal comparison to shingles is one better than the other? I’m looking on doing zip system underneath , creating a airtight attic, do you recommend a air gap between metal roof and zip system sheathing?
There is a lot to take into consideration and more detail than I can realistically discuss in a youtube comment. Matt Risinger has a few great videos on this topic that have a lot of relevance is warmer climates such as Texas. Start here and maybe this can help in your decision making. ua-cam.com/video/qhq-oQJ9ms0/v-deo.html
A metal roof would probably be your best option for a hurricane area. Most metal roofing manufacturers offer warranties up to 140 mph. Shingles are not far behind with some manufacturers warranting up to 130 mph. Generally speaking though, metal is usually most recommended for hurricane areas.
I have a couple things that you should be able to help me with one is when it rains on a metal roof do you hear the rain bouncing off the roof .Also what about hail secondly the heat from the sun would the screws pop up and the metal comes loose .And I was wondering about tile roofs are they more expensive and how long do they last and how much do they cost and do they crack with the extreme heat or cold weather. I would like to thank you for taking the time to talk about different roofs I enjoyed your video bye for now.
There are a lot of things to consider here such as how long you plan on staying in the home, how much of the roof will be covered by the panels, etc. If a large portion of the roof will be covered by the panels, I might consider shingles since the roof will be a bit more protected by the panels. There are solar racking systems designed to work with shingles or metal so either roof system will work well with your solar. Best of luck to you!
Thank-you. New subscriber. I have about 26 yrs on a 30 yr shingle roof. I cleaned my gutters for the first time( I know,I know)and had about 1” of sand in them( almost nothing else). I would love 50 yr warranty ( to outlast me). Are there shingles that do that? Thanks.👍
Its not that common. It does happen but is an easy non invasive fix. Lots of exposed fasteners roofs around here are 30+ years old and have never leaked.
It does happen but the fix is not that difficult. A slightly larger screw in the same place should fix that. Also, using the correct wood screws should help the screws from backing out.
Proper safety equipment is definitely important for walking on metal roofs! You could always install snow guards or snow birds on your roof. They are relatively inexpensive and easy to install and will definitely help keep snow away from the ice dam prone areas.
Metal is definitely going to be noisier than shingles but nothing that you won’t get used to pretty quickly. Most people have said they actually enjoy the sound of rain and sleet.
We do not have a big market for metal shingles here in our area so I did not think to include them on this video. However, metal shingles are great choice as well. I can really see them striking a nice balance between the look of shingle/shake with a durability of metal. Tilcor and Decra are the two manufacturers I have worked with and highly recommend.
I'm not familiar with that product unfortunately. It looks decent from a quick google search on it but again, it looks like it mostly available in the european market.
Give me Aussie long run corrugated iron roofing any time. Great colour selection in Colourbond or go to Galvanised and paint any colour or leave it plain Asphalt is not the widest used roofing material in the world!!! The USA is a small part of the world. Asphalt was used on roofs here in Australia for a short time but the heat made the product so soft that it tended to slump. Real messy
Forgive my misspeaking, it is not the most common roofing material in the world but in the US. And you're right, shingles definitely are not suited for all climates, especially in yours it seems.
So the only advantage you get from shingle is basically a supposed warranty that may be applied in a perfect scenario situation. I wouldn't go for that.
We've seen shingle manufacturers stand behind their warranties. Owens Corning being one of them. We can't speak for all of them but they're not completely useless.
My neighbor scrapped the metal roof because no one could find and fix the leak. Asphalt shingles are easy to repair by yourself and a partial repair is possible wheras the entire metal roof must be scrapped. Shingled roofs can be walked on without slipping but metal roofs can't be walked on.
Thays not true. You can easily walk on metal roofs. You don't when it's raining, buy how often do you on a shingle rood when its raining? Otherwise, decent points.
I’m building a new house in the spring for my family. I will admit that metal is a great option, but in Canada metal roofs just make no sense for the price they command
Yes and unfortunately, that is the case for a lot of people we work with. Metal is certainly worth the cost in some cases but for a lot of families who only live in their homes for around 13 years, it is hard to justify the cost. Best of luck with your new build!
@@dreamworxroofing4955 I was quoted 60k Canadian for a metal roof on the new build. For comparison, a 50 year certainteed shingle (actual life around 25-30) I was quoted 11k. Even if I live in the house for another 30 years before downsizing and have to replace the roof, I’m in for less than half the cost for the metal roof. Dollars and cents… it is just a bad investment up here.
@@danbedard290 metal looks better though. Standing seam anyway, I don't touch the corrugated metal. I look at other factors than resale, money spent etc. Maybe that's why I'm broke. 😀 But I only deal with old homes, and "most" shingles look like garbage on them.
Perhaps look into using only an accent of it. I'm considering investing in adding the metal to the roofing over my front porch only. Would save you some cash. I've seen some houses with only accents of it in the front and it looks amazing. They keep their asphault on the main body of the house in the same color as the metal accents.
We have slate roofs where I live. I can't recall anyone having storm damage for a long time. How come you companies dont talk "Slate". I know it's heavy and you need to install it properly and the price of everything is going up and that there are few men that know how to install it, but still it's a great option for a durable logo lasting roof.
Slate may be the best product out there. Tons of slate in our area too and some are approaching 80-90 years old. Shingles and metal are by the far the most economical choices but slate has certainly stood the test of time and deserves to be in the conversation. Thanks for the idea!
Skip the headaches of future repair and replacement costs and just do Bartile. "Professionals" will put it down, but it's the best roofing product there is. I'll wait for the experts to start disagreeing with me now.
@3:10 "Most commonly used roofing material in the world". No its not! Asphalt Shingles are mostly used in north america, US & Canada basically. The rest of the world go for metal and ceramic/clay/fiberglass.
Thanks for this detailed analysis. Hail damage will be much more noticeable on metal than asphalt shingles. Asphalt bounces, metal doesn't. I appreciate your points about recycling, but the difficulty in accessing your roof and making repairs with metal roofs make them pretty undesirable for areas with lots of wind and rain and minor impacts. Certainly though a metal roof can be beautiful if done well.
Absolutely agree. Roofs get damaged, it's a fact of life. So repairability is good factor to consider. Great for barns or outbuildings that take a beating and don't need to look great, but certainly something to be considered for your home. Thanks for commenting, John.
I live on the highest point in the county, we had 85 mph straight line winds last year. My metal roof hit 103 years old, still going strong. Doesn't look brand new, but....
"This wide" is my own custom measuring system. Patent pending. Standing seam panels will typically come in a width of 19.5". However, they can be custom sized down to 11.5".
Not necessarily. An insurance company will take more depreciation on a roof that is 20+ years old but they will not deny a claim based soley on the age of the roof. This is why it's important to read through and understand your insurance policy before you need to use it!
@dreamworxroofing4955 no, you misunderstand what I meant. Insurance companies will not write a policy giving you coverage, if your roof is over 20 years old.
Unless you like being told what color you can paint your front door 😂. We tend to agree with you here. Thanks for commenting and we're glad you enjoyed the video!
“You can very easily just replace a shingle or two or three” ????? Then why when I had a single shingle damaged on my roof did the insurance company hand me a check for $28,000 to replace the entire roof instead of a check for $28 for a single shingle???
There are a lot of variables here. Did you have a discontinued shingle on your roof? Were the shingles old and brittle and unable to be repaired? Insurance companies can have a lot of reasons for replacing vs repairing. Generally speaking though, shingles can usually be repaired. It sounds like things worked in your favor with your roof.
Not true; I have had to help fix too many metal roofs; even when they are properly installed. If it's 5 rib, it's far worse to deal with; the weight of the snow has a tendency to pull them; you will have to replace said screws yearly; otherwise you will have leaks. I can't say too much about standing seam however.
I can see how you would have that opinion. We definitely recommend if you are using metal on a home, that it be standing seam and not exposed fastener metal.
You would think that front-line workers that support small local business would be rewarded for their efforts. But for some it's all about profit. Case in point: I always thought you get what you pay for. Not in this case! I went with Hy-Grade roofing even though they were by far the most expensive quote I received. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and they damaged my property. Sad part is that my poor wife found the damage after coming home from her frontline COVID job. Broke my heart to see how upset she was when she saw the damage! SHAME ON HY-GRADE! They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW - the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pick up the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Horrible customer service experience! Save your money use someone else!
Sorry to hear about your experience, Mike. We always say around here that a successful project is 90% about the contractor and 10% about the materials. A great product is nothing without a solid company performing the install. In addition, a quality control audit should always be performed by inspecting the roof up close and personal. A poorly installed roof can look great from a distance. Perhaps another independent roofer could get up there for you to check over the work and give you some piece of mind. We wish you all the best and please thank your wife for her service on the frontlines of this pandemic.
Please ask your presenter to curb his moving about. He moves so much at times he makes some experience motion sickness. The nausea of sea sickness interferes with his presentation and message. Standing next to the item he focuses and placing his hand on the item he is focusing will help him limit his unconscious or subconscious movements. Good information a bit lost watching him nervously dance about.
Steel roof you gona get 20 to 25 years before you replace or have to paint it. Paint job on steal good for 8 to 10. My as well replace steel roof for what a good paint job cost. Shingles 8 to 12 years today. After 3 years forget about them standing behind shingles. Hail is the killer on shingle roofs and try to get ins. Co. to stand behind it. With steel if hail dents the roof you have proof of damage and Ins. Co. will have to replace your steel roof because hail damage the factory warranty. Takes up 2 years before hail damage to show up on shingle roof and Ins. Co. won't pay to replace shingle as they say it's wear and tear. Tell me how I know. I have not seen a good soo called Asphalt shingle in over 25 to 30 years. There all fiber glass shingles today. Junk.
@@mobleyMobley where you find error the intelligent find constructive feedback. But youre more of the dimmer sensitive type. Keep banging away on yourself and your keyboard. Im sure the desperation of never completing much will burn far worse than anything said here.
Great video!!!!! But here's the true Facts, !!!!! A certified installer by GAF, Owen's corning tamco etc..... Means nothing!!!!! The contractor goes to a 5 hour pitch session about there products and a free lunch!!!! A certified installer is nothing compared to a ticketed journeyman roofer! A gold seal or red seal roofer Please let customers know the TRUTH
My home is all brick with a metal roof. Totally maintenance free. Love it.
Thank You for taking the time to make this video.
You are very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to watch!
You didn't mention it, but what about having to walk on the roof? Sometimes vents, solar panels, ducts, etc. need to be working on, and you or a maintenance person will need to walk on the roof. Asphalt shingle provide some give and grit to hold reduce slipping. I would think a metal roof would be more prone to denting while being walked on or you just cannot walk on it at all lest you slip all the way to the ground on the slick surface. What's your perspective on 'walkability' between asphalt and metal roofing?
Thanks for the comment! That’s a good one and definitely something to consider. Especially with solar panels which would require routine maintenance like cleaning. They do make shoes meant to help traction on metal roofs like magnetic cougar paws but they are expensive and still not a fail safe. Shingles would definitely be my recommended option if roof walking is something that needs in the future.
One thing you didn't talk about is fire resistance. Here in the West, that is a huge issue. AFAIK, lots of building codes require class A fire ratings and most shingles can't meet that requirement without a complete system (underlayment, fastening, etc), whereas metal can meet it alone. I'm intrigued by metal shingles, which might be a good alternative.
That is a great point! Out here in the east that is not something we worry about much but it’s definitely something to be considered in your area. Thank you for sharing.
I prefer metal roof in SW Florida lot people know how to repair,,,/ remove partial metal roof
The garage on our house has a metal roof it is a product called ProSnap a large branch 5” fell on it with no damage but a dent in my car after it slid off the roof. I’ve seen hail damage destroy singled roofs leaving only unnoticeable cosmetic damage to the metal roof. Here in northern Illinois ice dams are a problem but not on metal roofing.
The biggest draw back (besides price) is cosmetic, just doesn’t look right on some homes.
Metal roofing should Never be nailed down but should be screwed down!
Simple roofs no valleys… are fairly diy friendly our 16 year old son did most of the installation of the garage roof 15 years ago and later on the house.
I was almost sold on metal roof as several people I know got them but decided on certainteed structural shingles. Looks so much better and I got the light slate color witch contradict your black metal roof comment. Black roofing don't deflect heat It absorbs It.
Standing seam metal looks great
Not true. Quality metal roofing has reflective paint applied. Just like any product, there are many quality levels of metal roofing available. The best products absolutely do not absorb a lot of heat, no matter the color. Also, a properly installed metal roof should have an air gap between it and the sheathing below, and the sheathing should be covered with a waterproof underlayment. An air gap below metal roofing extends the life of the entire roof assembly even further. You simply can't beat a high quality metal roof for longevity and durability.
Tint your windows black and get back to us on your comment
I just put a corrugated metal roof on my shop (25x75) and lowered the temperature inside by 15 degrees I did the layover method and spent under $7500 all in labor included Even shingles overlayed would have been over 5k The best decision I ever made this roof will still be here when my grandson dies (though the screws (gaskets)will need to be changed every 25years or so)
Shingles hands down.
That is what most of our customers say too.
Please review rubber (Euroshield)
Great idea. We will work on it!
Very interesting. Thank you.
You’re welcome!
Wish you would have also included the metal shingle roof
We are thinking about doing another video on these by themselves.
Outstanding video, lots of very useful information and clearly articulated. Thanks for putting together this excellent video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've been debating putting a metal roof on my home but I think I'm going to go shingles. I'm also scared about the cut edges of metal roofs being a rust starting point.
Thanks for the comment. Shingles is a great choice for most people. We recommend Owens Corning Duration if shingles is the direction you're leaning. A good metal roof installer will leave as few exposed cut edges as possible but it is definitely something to be considered.
so if you need to fit panels up the roof line, you just butt the ends together?
Thank you for sharing. best video in years. very informative especially the ROI towards the end of the video
You're welcome and very glad you found it helpful!
Metal roof can give you a insurance discount, however you may have to sign a cosmetic waiver for the roof. I'm deciding what to go with here. Thanks for the info
The Metal roof cost will outweigh any insurance discount. And keep in mind how long you're going to live in this home.
@@carlsmith4767 I did the math on my large 75x25 shop/garage. The first roof (shingles)lasted 20yrs (with a couple of repairs) The cost to re-shingle was right at 6k the price for a metal roof overlaid was 7500 Since I will live here till I die I may lose(if I don't make 30 more years) BUT my son (and now grandson) that built next door will still have the shop roof without EVER spending a dime till after they die The metal roof is good for 100years+ The insurance discount is just a bonus
We are getting our roof replaced & deciding between metal and asphalt (leaning towards metal for the farmhouse look). This was a great & informative video, Thank you!
Glad to hear the video was helpful for you!
Everytime I watch a video I switch from metal to shingle & back again. One video by a roofer found by searching "disadvantages of metal roofs," he didn't install the metal roof but is repairing the roof, made some good points about the disadvantages of metal roofs. Of course, the video I watched before the "disadvantages video" made me want to get a metal roof. I'm so conflicted. It's not the metal that won't last, it's the installation that can be poor that can cause issues.
Informative video.. He needs a music backing track for his constant dance moves
Just trying to keep it informative and entertaining 🕺🪩🕺
Charlie, you were great. Thank you so much for doing this.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
I used to install a lot of metal roofing, over shingles or over new sheathing.....and in hail country in nebraska, the metal outlived the shingles 10 to 1........
Thanks for commenting and great point. Living in hail country is a good example of where metal makes more sense than shingles. You may pay more upfront for the metal, but you’ll save in the long run not replacing your roof after every hail storm.
There are many kinds of metal and also asphalt shingles. Tile is an option as is cedar. Roofing companies and insurance companies are dictating what people have as options.
You didn’t bother to show the metal shingle roofing that is much less expensive. I was the first one in the Dallas area to put it on my roof in the 90s, it’s still there and will be there for the next 100 years. But I imagine it’s not high priced enough as it cost me only $2000 more to put that on my 3000 square-foot homethan a regular shingle roof - which I would’ve lost many times over in hailstorms in my area.
That’s a pretty uncommon material in our area of Pennsylvania so we didn’t include it. I really like it though and think it’s a great option. That’s great that it has survived the battering of hail you all receive.
Over the pond in the UK we hardly use the asphalt shingle - its been around a long time but has never become popular. Metal roofing is becoming more popular in new build houses but it's still a minority roofing material. Our most common roofing system is by far lightweight conrete tiles and for more expensive higher quality we still still use kiln fired ceramic tiles - usually teracotta coloured. The concrete tiles come in a variety of sizes, contours and finishes. There are also a few different colour options such as teracotto, dark grey and black finish. Because of the weather we don't usually need solar reflectrivity as we tend to want heat coming in rather than being reflected. A lot of barn conversions we have been popular over here for many years are now done in metal roofing panels. I personally don't like this contrast but it's far cheaper than thousands of individual tiles on a large roof. Interesting how America has never seemed to adopt brick built houses like we have done over here.
We have much respect for the roofing done over the pond. It seems the roofs and homes for that matter, are more generational in the UK. Homes are valued assets in the US but they feel a bit throw away sometimes with the materials we use to build. Metal roofing is certainly making its mark on the roofing industry here but shingles still dominate the market.
@@dreamworxroofing4955 Do you not have a greater choice of roof material in the US ? It would be an interesting project to see how housing developed over the 400 year or so period that has passed since emmigrants from Europe to the US brought their building skills with them and utilised them using the raw materials available to them. You can certainly see structural similarities in the east coast because that is where the first waves of immigrants landed. In the UK most of our houses are built from brick/block combinations. Stone was used massively in areas where ther was suitable sources of stone to be quarried. Sandstone in the north of England, granite it Scotland, Limestone in the Midlands, Flint in the south and granit e again in the south east. The main reason being that we had exhausted our sources of wood as the great forests in England and Scotland had been cut down to build houses and the huge amount of ships we needed to rule the seas. America seems to have favoured wood rather than stone or bricks. If you like houses and buildin England probably has the most diverse range of building techniques and designs in the world. From simple terraced houses to the huge Manor houses which our wealthy ancestors had built
What if the screws start to back out.
I am still removing granules from my gutters, after 15 years with an OC shingle installation. It is clear this roofing will not last 20 much less 30 years.
Cutting and forming metal is not a great mystery so why the roofing industry insists on premium pricing for metal roofing is questionable.
Very informative! Thank you for sharing this.
My mother has a black metal roof on her home. The paint on one side that's exposed to the sun all day has bleached out. Since it was installed about 15 years ago - good luck finding the contractor who installed it. I though about repainting the roof but I would need a boom to get up there to paint it - not a great option. In the mean time - I installed a high end shingle roof on my home and love the look of it much better than metal. Although recently they have started to come out with metal that looks more like a shingled roof which has me intrigued. BTW - quite moving around so much - you made me running for the bathroom...lol
Too much coffee that morning I suppose 😂. You’re right though, there are a lot of factors to consider like direction and how that will affect color over the years. Metal will definitely show more “bleaching” than shingles. Although, the paint on metal roofing has come a long way in 15 years so I’m curious to see what new panels will looks like in 15 years time.
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Very very helpful, fair & thorough video comparison. I live in So. California about 1.2 miles from the Pacific Ocean, I'm leaning towards metal but do I need to use aluminum due to the potential for rust or am I far enough away from the coast?
I assume recoupment is based on immediate, say within a year, sales. After 5-10 years, the asphalt shingle roof is effectively worthless, but the metal roof still promises many trouble-free years.
Be VERY careful if you are considering metal roofing. Notice that this guy said the metal has a 40 year PAINT warranty. That's typical with metal roofing. What that means, is that if the systems pulls itself apart with expansion and contraction, you're out of luck, that's never covered with metal roofing. There's no one prefect roofing product, if there was, everyone would use it. Also, check out tile and slate roofing, they usually offer a warranty that is around 50 years.
That is exactly why we touched on warranties for asphalt vs metal. Many shingle manufacturers will also warrant the labor on the roof as long as it is installed by a factory certified contractor. You're right, there is no perfect roofing product. There is only the product that is right for a homeowners particular situation.
Right on, good video. asphalt shingle rated life, and warranties are not worth the shingle wrapper that they are written on. They are full of limitations ,and are pro rated and the only thing that they guarantee is that you might get a slightly reduced rate on the same roof that prematurely failed in the first place. If you want to see the reality of comp roofs just go to the local landfill where they dump it.
What most people don't know is that metal roofs can be pressure washed, primed and repainted way down the road...and you have a brand new looking roof. Re painting, and roof restoration is common in many other countries.
A lot of good points here. Thanks for sharing Martin.
I would think there would be a problem with eventual leaks by having exposed screws in a metal roof, I have a friend that had that problem.
It can be a problem with exposed fastener roofs for sure. There is always the option to rescrew them with 5/16 screws down the road. But definitely something to be considered.
Not if they use screws with rubber washers.
Great information for me to choose between these two materials. Shingle is the one for me to go. My question is how long the batch of shingles can stay on top of roof before they are installed? I’m in mid 60 and I plan to do ourself (me and my wife). We plan doing area by area. It probably will take us for weeks to finish I think. I am afraid the shingle will melt together after long time on top of roof. Thanks in advance for your help in answering.
Glad you found the video helpful! Unless you have a flat area to store the shingles on the roof, I would only bring up onto the roof what you plan on installing that day. You want the shingles to be stored flat so they do not form a hump in the middle. If they were to be stored slumped over the peak of the roof, this could happen and the shingles could have a “hump” in the middle once installed. Whether they are on the ground or roof, they are packaged in a way that there is no need to worry about them melting together. Best of luck with your install and feel free to contact us if you need any assistance!
Awesome video!
Thanks Steve!
I live in south Florida near to Miami which roofing product which has the best hurricane wind rating ?
Metal roofing would be our choice for your area. Metal, when properly installed, can have a wind resistance of up to about 160 MPH. Clay tile or shingles would be your next best bet with a wind rating of about 130 MPH with special installation. With the metal roofing you will also get the benefits of the solar reflectivity, which could come in handy in your area.
My roof is exposed to sun from 5am til 10pm ZERO shade. I’m in the process of getting a new roof, but not sure what to do. Metal or Shingles? The shingles now are brittle and hail damaged. Is metal much better in Minnesota at 26 gauge?
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Stumbled across this. Nice informative video.
Thank you!
Why no metal shingles/shakes/slate? I think it's a great option.
We think it’s a great option too! Often times a better option than panel metal. Stay tuned, we’ll talk about those in an upcoming video.
Looking to do a metal roof , can you talk about heat retention on metal comparison to shingles is one better than the other? I’m looking on doing zip system underneath , creating a airtight attic, do you recommend a air gap between metal roof and zip system sheathing?
There is a lot to take into consideration and more detail than I can realistically discuss in a youtube comment. Matt Risinger has a few great videos on this topic that have a lot of relevance is warmer climates such as Texas. Start here and maybe this can help in your decision making. ua-cam.com/video/qhq-oQJ9ms0/v-deo.html
Long, but a really great video. Thanks!
The video went a little longer than I thought it would as well but I'm glad you liked it!
Metal diamonds from Canada.
Bigg Time!!!!
We're getting ahold of some to review them as well!
The video should include a link to the report he is holding.
Which would you suggest for a home in a hurricane area?
A metal roof would probably be your best option for a hurricane area. Most metal roofing manufacturers offer warranties up to 140 mph. Shingles are not far behind with some manufacturers warranting up to 130 mph. Generally speaking though, metal is usually most recommended for hurricane areas.
I have a couple things that you should be able to help me with one is when it rains on a metal roof do you hear the rain bouncing off the roof .Also what about hail secondly the heat from the sun would the screws pop up and the metal comes loose .And I was wondering about tile roofs are they more expensive and how long do they last and how much do they cost and do they crack with the extreme heat or cold weather. I would like to thank you for taking the time to talk about different roofs I enjoyed your video bye for now.
Need to replace my roof, but want to get solar panels are shingles best?
There are a lot of things to consider here such as how long you plan on staying in the home, how much of the roof will be covered by the panels, etc. If a large portion of the roof will be covered by the panels, I might consider shingles since the roof will be a bit more protected by the panels. There are solar racking systems designed to work with shingles or metal so either roof system will work well with your solar. Best of luck to you!
Thank-you. New subscriber. I have about 26 yrs on a 30 yr shingle roof. I cleaned my gutters for the first time( I know,I know)and had about 1” of sand in them( almost nothing else). I would love 50 yr warranty ( to outlast me). Are there shingles that do that? Thanks.👍
Should show the different style metal roofs . Like the nice ones lol
I think standing seam looks pretty nice! 👀
Why does none of these videos mention what to do with nails/screws that hit a crack between the boards/plywood seams?
It’s pretty much a non issue because where the plywood seams would land would be on a rafter or truss. It will be screwed into solid wood either way.
Great video.
Thank you!
You didn't mention the biggest problem with metal roofing is screws backing out and leaking it's very common problem .
Its not that common. It does happen but is an easy non invasive fix. Lots of exposed fasteners roofs around here are 30+ years old and have never leaked.
It does happen but the fix is not that difficult. A slightly larger screw in the same place should fix that. Also, using the correct wood screws should help the screws from backing out.
My chimney sweeper probably would not ever come back if I chose a metal roof. A metal edge to stop ice dams? How about that?
Proper safety equipment is definitely important for walking on metal roofs! You could always install snow guards or snow birds on your roof. They are relatively inexpensive and easy to install and will definitely help keep snow away from the ice dam prone areas.
Is the metal noisy when it rains or hails? Thanks
Metal is definitely going to be noisier than shingles but nothing that you won’t get used to pretty quickly. Most people have said they actually enjoy the sound of rain and sleet.
I love the sound on my metal roof. It puts me to sleep at night if its raining.
Great Vid...do you guys do work in Jersey
Not currently but I would be happy to connect you with someone in our network if you're in need of a roofer.
@@dreamworxroofing4955 That sounds good. Thx
What about metal shingles?
We do not have a big market for metal shingles here in our area so I did not think to include them on this video. However, metal shingles are great choice as well. I can really see them striking a nice balance between the look of shingle/shake with a durability of metal. Tilcor and Decra are the two manufacturers I have worked with and highly recommend.
GARBAGE. you ar epaying extra for a roof that will fall last the same length as a comp shingle roof. cant walk on it without dinging it up. avoid imho
good insight actually. Very tough to walk on unless you know where to step.
What is your evaluation of Bratex modular roofing?
I'm not familiar with that product unfortunately. It looks decent from a quick google search on it but again, it looks like it mostly available in the european market.
@@dreamworxroofing4955 Thanks.
Give me Aussie long run corrugated iron roofing any time. Great colour selection in Colourbond or go to Galvanised and paint any colour or leave it plain
Asphalt is not the widest used roofing material in the world!!! The USA is a small part of the world. Asphalt was used on roofs here in Australia for a short time but the heat made the product so soft that it tended to slump. Real messy
Forgive my misspeaking, it is not the most common roofing material in the world but in the US. And you're right, shingles definitely are not suited for all climates, especially in yours it seems.
So the only advantage you get from shingle is basically a supposed warranty that may be applied in a perfect scenario situation. I wouldn't go for that.
We've seen shingle manufacturers stand behind their warranties. Owens Corning being one of them. We can't speak for all of them but they're not completely useless.
Very informative video 👍❤️🙏🏽
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you!
Is the metal stainless steel?
No, the metal is not stainless steel. Metal panels are typically made of galvalume steel, which is similar to galvanized steel.
Who guarantees the warranty ?
The shingle manufacturers and/or the roofing company that did the install.
Provided any of them are still in business if you need warranty work.
Cedar and tile?
They’re not big sellers in our area of the country but I would love to talk about them too. Maybe next video!
Great video! Thanks for including the layover information. Metal over shingles is a good option.
Glad you enjoyed the video!
My neighbor scrapped the metal roof because no one could find and fix the leak. Asphalt shingles are easy to repair by yourself and a partial repair is possible wheras the entire metal roof must be scrapped. Shingled roofs can be walked on without slipping but metal roofs can't be walked on.
Very true, Robert. Metal panels can definitely be difficult to repair compared to shingles.
Difficult to repair and entire roof are miles apart. Can’t be walked on is false. Clueless dunce or asphalt shill.
Yes and how about those 40mph winds?
Thays not true. You can easily walk on metal roofs. You don't when it's raining, buy how often do you on a shingle rood when its raining? Otherwise, decent points.
Rubber (Euroshield)
Thanks for the info!!
You’re welcome!
I’m building a new house in the spring for my family. I will admit that metal is a great option, but in Canada metal roofs just make no sense for the price they command
Yes and unfortunately, that is the case for a lot of people we work with. Metal is certainly worth the cost in some cases but for a lot of families who only live in their homes for around 13 years, it is hard to justify the cost. Best of luck with your new build!
@@dreamworxroofing4955 I was quoted 60k Canadian for a metal roof on the new build. For comparison, a 50 year certainteed shingle (actual life around 25-30) I was quoted 11k. Even if I live in the house for another 30 years before downsizing and have to replace the roof, I’m in for less than half the cost for the metal roof. Dollars and cents… it is just a bad investment up here.
@@danbedard290 metal looks better though. Standing seam anyway, I don't touch the corrugated metal. I look at other factors than resale, money spent etc. Maybe that's why I'm broke. 😀 But I only deal with old homes, and "most" shingles look like garbage on them.
Perhaps look into using only an accent of it. I'm considering investing in adding the metal to the roofing over my front porch only. Would save you some cash. I've seen some houses with only accents of it in the front and it looks amazing. They keep their asphault on the main body of the house in the same color as the metal accents.
That’s a great look for sure!
Don't you use a Equipter roofer buggy
yes, we do use Equipters
We have slate roofs where I live. I can't recall anyone having storm damage for a long time. How come you companies dont talk "Slate". I know it's heavy and you need to install it properly and the price of everything is going up and that there are few men that know how to install it, but still it's a great option for a durable logo lasting roof.
Slate may be the best product out there. Tons of slate in our area too and some are approaching 80-90 years old. Shingles and metal are by the far the most economical choices but slate has certainly stood the test of time and deserves to be in the conversation. Thanks for the idea!
Skip the headaches of future repair and replacement costs and just do Bartile. "Professionals" will put it down, but it's the best roofing product there is. I'll wait for the experts to start disagreeing with me now.
@3:10 "Most commonly used roofing material in the world". No its not! Asphalt Shingles are mostly used in north america, US & Canada basically. The rest of the world go for metal and ceramic/clay/fiberglass.
my mistake. The USA, not the world.
Thanks for this detailed analysis. Hail damage will be much more noticeable on metal than asphalt shingles. Asphalt bounces, metal doesn't. I appreciate your points about recycling, but the difficulty in accessing your roof and making repairs with metal roofs make them pretty undesirable for areas with lots of wind and rain and minor impacts. Certainly though a metal roof can be beautiful if done well.
Absolutely agree. Roofs get damaged, it's a fact of life. So repairability is good factor to consider. Great for barns or outbuildings that take a beating and don't need to look great, but certainly something to be considered for your home. Thanks for commenting, John.
I live on the highest point in the county, we had 85 mph straight line winds last year. My metal roof hit 103 years old, still going strong. Doesn't look brand new, but....
@@miragesmack007 Thank goodness you're okay.
I'm in it for the longevity.
Metal roofs are actually the preferred option for high wind areas
Background music is annoying but great info
No compromises, slate or clay. It stands for hundreds of years.
Agreed. We have a ton of slate in our area that has stood up for close to 100 years so far.
Getting a metal roof doesn't guarantee your insurance won't drop you
This wide. Is that metric or imperial measurement. How many in a foot ? lol
"This wide" is my own custom measuring system. Patent pending. Standing seam panels will typically come in a width of 19.5". However, they can be custom sized down to 11.5".
Don't care about warranty on shingles... insurance company will not cover you if they are close to 20 yrs old.
Not true
Not necessarily. An insurance company will take more depreciation on a roof that is 20+ years old but they will not deny a claim based soley on the age of the roof. This is why it's important to read through and understand your insurance policy before you need to use it!
@dreamworxroofing4955 no, you misunderstand what I meant. Insurance companies will not write a policy giving you coverage, if your roof is over 20 years old.
Just ONE MORE REASON to NEVER live in an HOA community!!!
Great informative video!
Thank You ! ❤
Unless you like being told what color you can paint your front door 😂. We tend to agree with you here. Thanks for commenting and we're glad you enjoyed the video!
“You can very easily just replace a shingle or two or three”
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Then why when I had a single shingle damaged on my roof did the insurance company hand me a check for $28,000 to replace the entire roof instead of a check for $28 for a single shingle???
There are a lot of variables here. Did you have a discontinued shingle on your roof? Were the shingles old and brittle and unable to be repaired? Insurance companies can have a lot of reasons for replacing vs repairing. Generally speaking though, shingles can usually be repaired. It sounds like things worked in your favor with your roof.
Stand still - I’m getting dizzy
Sucks that metal roof quotes are always crazy expensive.
it is unfortunate how much the cost of metal has gone up in the last few years.
Shingles con: They'll last about 20-25 years.
Metal pro: I'll be dead before it becomes an issue and won't care at that point.
Not true; I have had to help fix too many metal roofs; even when they are properly installed. If it's 5 rib, it's far worse to deal with; the weight of the snow has a tendency to pull them; you will have to replace said screws yearly; otherwise you will have leaks. I can't say too much about standing seam however.
Lift Pro Tip: Don't start to record a video when you need to pee.
Too much coffee that morning I suppose.
15500$ installed... metal roof... nova scotia
How many square feet?
Dip shingles in rollin bed liner ! An flex seal them as u lay them lmao. Oh an rollin bed liner the metal an flex seal the seams ! 😅🤣😂🤑
You’re on to something here. 😂#doyourbestflexsealtherest
@@dreamworxroofing4955 I am a legend in tha streets that seems to just give ideas away at random while watching make others millions 😭
Metal roofs do not belong on a house that's my opinion and i have my reason. If done right with the proper shingle ull get 30 years+ out of it
I can see how you would have that opinion. We definitely recommend if you are using metal on a home, that it be standing seam and not exposed fastener metal.
A good video, informative and nicely paced. I do wish you'd stand still while you talked though--I swear it looked like you had to pee the whole time.
Glad you liked the video. Must have had too much coffee that morning😂.
You would think that front-line workers that support small local business would be rewarded for their efforts. But for some it's all about profit. Case in point: I always thought you get what you pay for. Not in this case! I went with Hy-Grade roofing even though they were by far the most expensive quote I received. Worst decision I could have made. They promised to install the roof in 4-6 weeks, of course they were late. When they finally showed up without the proper equipment and they damaged my property. Sad part is that my poor wife found the damage after coming home from her frontline COVID job. Broke my heart to see how upset she was when she saw the damage! SHAME ON HY-GRADE! They are really proud of the “Quality Audit” that they do, but of course they won’t give you a copy of the audit…lol BTW - the “Quality Audit” they did at my house consisted of 2 guys coming over to pick up the leftover junk they left at my house for a month. They never even went up on the roof! Horrible customer service experience! Save your money use someone else!
Sorry to hear about your experience, Mike. We always say around here that a successful project is 90% about the contractor and 10% about the materials. A great product is nothing without a solid company performing the install. In addition, a quality control audit should always be performed by inspecting the roof up close and personal. A poorly installed roof can look great from a distance. Perhaps another independent roofer could get up there for you to check over the work and give you some piece of mind. We wish you all the best and please thank your wife for her service on the frontlines of this pandemic.
Dude! You should have went pee before doing this video!
Metal roofs leak cause all the exposed fastners
Lol, use Standing seam metal instead, duhhhh
Please ask your presenter to curb his moving about. He moves so much at times he makes some experience motion sickness. The nausea of sea sickness interferes with his presentation and message. Standing next to the item he focuses and placing his hand on the item he is focusing will help him limit his unconscious or subconscious movements. Good information a bit lost watching him nervously dance about.
good information, but i think he had to pee really bad
3 comments and you took the one i was going to make. :)
Too much coffee that morning I suppose 😂
Steel roof you gona get 20 to 25 years before you replace or have to paint it. Paint job on steal good for 8 to 10. My as well replace steel roof for what a good paint job cost. Shingles 8 to 12 years today. After 3 years forget about them standing behind shingles. Hail is the killer on shingle roofs and try to get ins. Co. to stand behind it. With steel if hail dents the roof you have proof of damage and Ins. Co. will have to replace your steel roof because hail damage the factory warranty. Takes up 2 years before hail damage to show up on shingle roof and Ins. Co. won't pay to replace shingle as they say it's wear and tear. Tell me how I know. I have not seen a good soo called Asphalt shingle in over 25 to 30 years. There all fiber glass shingles today. Junk.
dissaponited in your video ypu stumbled and fumbled to explain each material I question your knowledge and experience!
Boring!
Thanks for the feedback! 👌
Stop rocking while you are talking
Thanks for the feedback.
“You know. “. No. Youre presenting. And i dont know. Stop saying it. You know
Thanks for the feedback 👌
Ya know, u could just shut the fuk up.
@@mobleyMobley where you find error the intelligent find constructive feedback. But youre more of the dimmer sensitive type. Keep banging away on yourself and your keyboard. Im sure the desperation of never completing much will burn far worse than anything said here.
supply and demand now drives shingle prices up
This is unfortunately, true.
Great video!!!!!
But here's the true Facts, !!!!!
A certified installer by GAF, Owen's corning tamco etc.....
Means nothing!!!!! The contractor goes to a 5 hour pitch session about there products and a free lunch!!!!
A certified installer is nothing compared to a ticketed journeyman roofer! A gold seal or red seal roofer
Please let customers know the TRUTH