Metal all the way. I've installed a lot of different roofs. Galvalume 3 foot wide, my favorite. Talk about savings one money and future problems. Metal rules
Is Galvalume a mix of galvanized aluminum? Also, what, if any, has been your experience with aluminum vs steel metal roofs? Do aluminum withstand rust better than steel? Do coatings that deflect sun come off after so extent time? And how does aluminum withstand hail? Sorry so many questions.
After installing and using both shingle and metal roofing, I'll never do any other roof besides steel in the future. They are MUCH better in all ways (at least in Canada.) 25 year shingles only lasted 10 years. Metal roofs last over 50 years. With the price of installation rising every year, it's far better to bite the bullet and get it done right the first time, then forget about it the rest of your life. I loved the fact that snow slid right off too, too much weight on a roof can damage buildings, especially older ones. I had a tree limb fall on the roof and all it did was dent the steel. It would have put a hole in a shingle roof. You'll never have a leak with a steel roof once it's done right. Shingles can seem good, but slowly leak, damaging roof and underlayment, and eventually drywall. One friend of mine had leaks go down through the walls through three floors. I installed a steel roof and that solved that problem. Sure some roofs are trickier than others, but that's a job that only has to be done once. Shingles need to be done every 10-20 years, so a complicated roof needs to be done again and again. I love steel so much I ripped off the rotten flat roof on my travel trailer and installed a steel pitched roof. No more problems with water damage for as long as I live! There are some reasons to buy a metal roof. Oh, do it yourself and save a tonne of money, it's not that difficult. You can even find manufacturers that offer "2nds" or miscut sales, bringing the cost down to comparable with shingles.
I live in the Sesttle area, and have a 3-tab tar-shingle composite roof that is 22 years old now, and still looks new. It has a 3-12 pitch. The previous roof was corrugated aluminum installed over old 3-tab "tar shingles" - the screws holding the aluminum were installed on the tops of ridges, and the eventual leaking at the screws caused a lot of wood rot. No idea why they installed the screws on the floating ridges, but they could not maintain a secure compression on the rubber washers under the screw heads, as there was always about a 1-inch gap between the aluminum ridge and the hard shingles below it.
@@logmeindangit It is possible that different locations and weather need different methods. Perhaps in the colder areas the ridge screwing works better, our sun is not has hot as down South. If you get no snow and only very hot days, the metal is doing a lot more expanding and contracting, so a tight connection would be more beneficial. However rubber washers are only supposed to be snugged so the rubber only begins to bulge - if you tighten it too much it will ruin the washer and leaks will come in. If you don't snug it enough, water will get in. I would never install steel over a shingle roof without first screwing down wood slats and screwing into them, because shingles compress and can give after you screw them down. Screwing into wood slats won't allow this to happen. Also, having air between the steel allows it to cool faster and not retain heat pumped into direct contact with shingles underneath, one of the advantages of steel.
I live in South Florida and I am considering installing a metal roof. Do you know of any experience metal roofer that you would recommend? Also can a ridge vent be installed in a metal roof as well? I currently have one on my 15 y/o shingles roof. Thanks for your feedback
@@elizabethirizarry9312 Installing metal roofing is not hard. In fact, I would say it is even easier than shingles. You shouldn't have trouble finding a handyman that can do the job. In FL I would use a white or lighter colour roof, since you get a lot of sun and don't need heat much. The white or light color will reflect the sun's heat and keep your home cooler. Definitely do a ridge vent - you don't want extra holes in your roof with regular vents. I have used whole ridge venting for all my roofs with no issues at all. Simply leave a 2" gap along the entire ridge on both sides of the support beam, cover with a black material designed to keep bugs out and air to flow, then cap with a metal ridge cap that covers it with a few extra inches overhang.
I've lived in houses that were 100 years old that had an original corrugated iron roof.. in those days you just needed to paint them every 5 years. Now they have the color baked on.
I built my first house with metal singles and wouldn't use them again, but my new house has a corrugated metal roof and has lived through 2 cyclones. I put corrugated roofing iron on my new shed as well, and it has lived through one cyclone so far. I will continue using it on every new roof I do.
My home is 197 years old. This standing seam roof has been on this house before me. I have know idea when it was installed. I was 1 1/2 old when my parents bought this farm and this is the most reliable roof I could ever ask for. It’s been repainted 3 times. My opinion, it the only kind of roof I would ever have.
What they sell today as Standing Seam is not it at all It's practically a lost art now. Made from rolls of 2ft wide galvanized steel, the seams are folded together and crimped to make a continuous sheet with all fasteners concealed underneath, completely leak and wind proof.
@@Czurovec my father painted it. I’m needing to paint it now. I’m thinking of using an enamel paint like automotive paint. It will be expensive but worth it
In what state do you do business? I am in Southern California and there is not many roofers that want to do metal but I would rather invest in the long term to replace my three layers of composite shingles and four layers of paint, 2 silicone.
Min. slope for metal should be 1 in 3. Yes, you can install a flat, waterproof metal roof too, but you are looking at sphisticated systems that cost $$$$$$...!!!
I love my metal roofing. I'll never have to shingle again in my lifetime. There are some additional downsides to metal roofs that you didn't mention. Metal roofs repel both radio and cell phone signals. My area is rural where cell phone signals are fairly weak anyway. We had to install a TV tower and a cell booster system in order to get a proper reception and voice transmission. Before we had to step outside the house to receive any signals.
If you're in a rural, bad signal area (me too) you are going to have to use a booster anyways. The up side of blocking radio and microwave radiation is that you live longer - no excess bombardment to your body whil living inside :) Will come in handy once that massive solar EM pulse hits us, and it will protect your sensitive electronics too!
@@timfarry7071 A little late for me to be concerned about some of these things - but true. I'm retired and play with tube electronics for fun so my tower has multiple antennas.
i was a union sandblaster/steel painter for 15 years and went to decorator after, i have worked in protective coatings at LTV steel, US steel, Inland steel, bethlehem steel, intech steel, and have relined huge steel storage tanks in tank farms all over the south and west of lake michigan. i retired to the philippines and built a house beside the ocean with my own 2 hands that was designed by me as well. my roof is corrugated steel, the 'wavy stuff' its rather thick and i had it trucked in from some distance. it's screwed onto 3/4 inch plywood resting on 2x6 'philippine mahogany' rafters every 4 ft on center with 2x2s as purlins (nailers) every 4 ft (but they are flush so not really perlins). I cleaned the sheet metal off with rags and MEK to remove any oily areas or dirt and primed it with 2 coats of iron oxide(both sides) before installing it.. after it was all screwed down i touched up any small scratches and screw heads then used white industrial enamel oil paint, 3 thin coats on that. that was in 2017, in 2023 i washed it down with soap and water and rinsed it well then hand sanded a few spots that looked like they may need it and recoated it with 2 more thin coats of white oil enamel. it still looks great and it has lowered the temperature in the house by reflecting the hot sun dramatically, you can touch any bare metal here at noon and it will burn your fingers. my roof feels like 65-70 degrees at noon. i have had zero rust(even beside the ocean) and zero coating failure and zero leaks. the temp here never varies too much staying between 65-95 degrees F so the expansion and contraction is not a problem , (and even less of a problem after painting since it stays between 65-75 degrees now! ). anything can be painted if you know what you're doing and use the correct materials. edit - i used galvanized screws with little rubber gaskets under the heads (dont over tighten and smash the gasket!)
I’m a diy metal roofer, love the stuff, luckily no HOA telling me what to do. Every new building on my property gets metal. Metal is also great for rain water catchment, which I do. Lol, even my Conex has a shade roof on top of it with metal.
I recently got a metal roof done and found a small leak in the porch. When I investigated, I found one of the screws was not all the way down because of a burr. This prevented the rubber washer from making good contact with the sheet metal. I spoke with the installer and learned that the rubber washers are the only thing preventing leaks. You should check your screws and washers to make sure they are all the way down and not rotting away. He also told me they can be replaced but be sure to use larger screws so they bite into the wood going into the same holes.
I don't recall the last time I felt I was getting an honest presentation from someone who wanted to sell me something. You have my respect. Thank you and God bless. Miles
Interesting things to think about. The damage later on was interesting knowing colors fade and replacement sections would be hard to match... Thumbs Up!
asphalt shingles don't seem to last but 12-15 here in the super hot sun south USA, but metal roofs might prevent your cell phone from working good in your house, but add a cell signal booster on the outside of your house. Metal is the way to go, but the cost was insane when I just built a new house, metal was going to be 3x the cost of asphalt shingles.
We get 70 mph winds every Spring and massive hail in the summer. Have had metal and now shingle roofing on a different house. The metal was dented but still works great. Had heavy duty shingles that completely glue down and very thick and have survived 4 years of those winds and hail and look great. Need to find a metal screen for skylights as they need replacing every year or two from hail damage.
Great video. By informing people of the "11 reasons you should NOT buy a metal roof", you are saving customers, vendors, and contractors a lot of money, time, and grief.
I installed a metal roof over 2x4 strapping. By eliminating plywood sheets, it actually came out more economical. With good air ventilation, there is no rot like with plywood. Some told me that it is going to be noisy, but with a 1" vapor barrier and 26" blown-in insulation, it is very quiet. It is 13 years old and like new. Good for the environment too. Shingles make a mess at landfills.
thank you I appreciate this information. I live in Georgia. It rains really hard and most of the houses we have purchased. The roof doesn’t seem to be a sound as we like going into our forever home worst but thinking about switching over to a metal roof
Good comments. Another downside is the safety aspect. I've seen videos of workers without harnesses sliding off of metal roof. On the other hand, another big PLUS is that you don't have to worry about moss buildup with a metal roof.
Property fall protection is always a must on any elevated surface! You are correct that there are some benefits of having a slick roofing surface, such as shedding snow. -Thad
Having lost a home to a wildfire, that started with leaves in the gutters igniting the facia boards...I want metal next time. I want the facia and soffits metal too.
As the other replies alluded to, it depends on your attic space and insulation. Noticeable differences are usually found in situations where there is not much building material between the actual roof and where you are standing. -Thad
Our home is at the very edge of California’s 2020 Creek Fire. Many of our neighbors homes were destroyed. The surprise was how mwny survived when everything around them was ash and burned trees. What jumped out was each surviving home inside the fire had metal roofing. Burning embers simply rolled off. We bought the ten-year old home 30 years ago, and replaced the composite roof 25 years ago. Acorn Woodpeckers absolutely love composite roofing. The roof was full of holes stuffed with acorns. After the metal was installed the peckers beat on it for a few weeks, then left, baffled. Excellent investment.
I recall hail damaging quite a few metal roofs in the area. Some insurance companies only replaced the damaged panels. Since the existing roofs were several years old the homeowners upended up with unsightly striped roofs (new panels installed next to or between existing faded panels). It made me not want a metal roof on our new home.
I never watched this video as I'm A believer in metal roofs. The old style, screws with a cupped rubber gasket works well for about 15 years. The screws should be replaced with a little bit larger screw with new cupped rubber gasket seal. This maintenance at 15 year intervals will provide a leak proof roof for a hundred years or so.
They should use a textured metal instead of smooth sheets. It would help disguise hail damage somewhat. " oil canning" can be caused by contraction and expansion.
double locked seamed roof is approved on slope as low as 1:12 according to the specifications. i would love to hear your opinion on that. thank you for your work!
I worked in roof replacement and those asphalt comp roof warranties and ratings are not worth the shingle wrapper that they are written on. I also saw the mountains of asphalt roofing waste in the landfill. It really turned me against asphalt comp roofing. Metal roofs can be pressure washed, primed and repainted down the road when the paint looks chalky. Good video though...some good points.\ When building a house, a simple functional roof design will save you a lot of headaches down the road regardless what type of roof system you use.
@@gusoliva8801 Forget which one it is, the open cell or the closed cell, but one foam insulation allows moisture to form on the cold side, and then you get mould. Check your attic! Yes, foam insulation will dampen the noise, but better make sure you use the right foam, and that it's applied correctly. Otherwise, noise will be a much smaller problem!
You can use Malarkey legacy shingles that will last 40 years. Never gets damaged by hail . For less then half the cost of a standing seam roof. If the customer wants to spend big bucks cedar is a good alternative. If they want standing seam then good.
The old late 60s home we had had corrugated galvanized roof that lasted well over 40 years due to a specific type of silver metal roofing paint that was applied once every 2-3 years and it has survived numerous hurricanes, my parents sold the house and the current owner changed it to I believe the 3 tab shingles and had to replace the shingles after a hurricane.
I shopped for a metal roof on my home back in 2008, at the time my house was 16 years old and I paid $87k for the home new. The price for a new metal roof was back in 2008 was $45k, for a house that cost $87k. I told the roofer to get lost.
I would say that is a reason you SHOULD buy a metal. They allow solar panels to be simply clamped to the seams so that no penetrations have the opportunity to leak. -Thad
I'm in northern Virginia, what are some products that you would recommend? anything to avoid? I know a steel of at least 24 gauge thickness with the impact resistance rating, but anything else I should look for?
The law has changed in Florida state wide no HOA can stop you from installing a metal roof. I owned a home with a 98 year old metal roof the original metal roof. Got a leak replaced several old fashioned screws with the new rubber gasket kind no leak. 98 years of continuous service . Asphalt maybe 20 years in Florida by then all stained ,discolored , curling up ,filling gutters with gravel yeah asphalt is great.
I did metal roofing for a year, this all sounded good except for number 8. I worked in a pair with a Amish contractor, and we could get a 50x160 foot roof on in about 6 hours, more complex roofs rarely took more than 2-3 days. I’d like to see anyone shingle a roof in less than 8 hours
Fortunately, my roof is perfect for metal roofing and none of the other issues apply. Best of all, the previous owner footed the bill to convert the home from composite shingles to metal roofing. But the siding sucks.
You did not mention that metal. roofs and siding block radio signals from your receivers inside the home and also interferes with television reception.
I like a house that has a simple A frame roof with little or no obstructions, thus a metal roof is the way I go. And I don't like that flimsy 5 groove tin. I call that "chicken coupe roofing". What I like is commercial grade metal roofing. One of the things that will corroded metal roofing is if there is a pecan tree near the house. Pecan tree droppings have lots of tanic acid. Parking your car under a pecan tree is also a bad practice for the same reason.
I have a metal roof on my garage it’s been up 3 years , the metal roof is now leaking . I live in upstate NY and the wind has been insane here , I think the wind has affected this roof , also the sound of the rain coming down on this roof is insanity . The company that installed the garage is coming out to look at the issue ..
I'm considering metal roofing and are looking at people's experiences. Have you figured out the cause of your leak yet? Was it the fasteners? Also, If you don't mind my asking, do you know what pitch is your roof, what kind of metal is your roof, and the gauge of the metal?
it gets windy here, I checked my metal roof 6 months after installation and found several screws sticking up. I believe the panels had settled down and/or wind had pulled them up. I screwed the screws down no problem.
One good thing about metal roofing is you can go with the blue color that is not affected by attack lasers from the sky, should your house ever be attacked.We already have a house with a blue metal roof in our neighborhood.
I bought a metal roof,and I got a contractor that was recommended by the company that sold it,2 weeks later I had water marks all inside my house, had to pay another guy to come straighten out the mess
Hmmm 11 reason not too...? I have many why you should consider metal! Recently we had hurricane helene come 600 miles inland thur the upstate SC with wind speeds topping 100mph with driving rain that lasted several hours! recently installed Shingles roofs less than 1 year old destroyed by wind hinged, while metal roofs many years old untouch lived to see another day! Beside if metal was damage you can just replace the damage panels and get paid to recycle the metal, where as shingles have less of a chance of matching there for entire roof need stripping including underlayment end up in landfill just adds to cost!
My roof has a 45 degree pitch angle, and I'm in north west ohio...which is longest lasting best roof material ?metal shingles, metal hidden fastner, or asphalt.?
Fake news. All my old friends from Europe have aluminum roofs, last 100 years, zero issues. In 20 years in Canada I changed 2 roofs, very inconvenient.
Hi, so really would like a standing seam metal roof but have a low slope roof. Not a complicated roof only a couple pipes coming through. From my understanding machine seamed is the only metal roof system appropriate for my roof. Is that true? And should I still look to a different roofing system if I have this low slope, also live in Alaska and will have snow on it. Thanks.
2nd asphalt shingle roof will cost MORE after inflation. Expect 18-20 years. An old roof will not be salable. The seller may have to pay for a new roof, to close the deal.
Great point! The next roof you buy will cost more than a roof you buy today. If you go with a system that has an extensive lifespan, such as metal, you can avoid that problem. -Thad
Is it a good idea to get metal shingles? I do have some live oak trees near one side of the home. I live in Florida. How good are they with wind resistance and are they more difficult to install?
@@NoSpam1891Hi! Could you please expand on why you wouldn't recommend metal shingles? The one I'm eyeballing is the Hurricane metal shake, made of steel i think. Looks more like a conventional asphalt shingle, so I think the HOA would approve. They advertise these as being a life time shingle, but the cost is exorbitant upfront. Looking around to find information of how these really stand up to the weather ( leaks, hurricane, and life span).
@doradean3097 I prefer long run steel with a standing seam. Properly installed, I believe it's the best option for any sort of serious weather incident etc. Obviously the HOA is a complication.
By and large, I would not put any other type of covering on my roof. On my acreage, I have slowly replaced the asphalt shingles on my roofs. The earliest roof was done with metal 40 years ago. Absolutely, was my best investment Now a days, metal roofing is not that much more than asphalt shingles. A metal roof done properly, is a lifetime investment. You will never have to re shingle your roof again. Hail may cause some dents in the metal roof, but so what? It will still work as before. Furthermore, if one is building a house and can't afford a metal roof, then I say wait until you save up a couple more thousand and put the metal roof on. That's all it cost me to redo the roof on my house with decent quality metal roofing. Now I will never have to worry about it again.
When I look at recommended material to roof slope, low slope is usually paired with metal roof. Why do you seem to disagree with all those other sources?
Metal roofs can be used on a low-slope application, but it has to be the right type of profile and assembly. One size doesn't fit all, as most exposed fastener profiles and snaplock standing seam profiles are not recommended to be installed on roofs under a 3:12. Also, I do not recommend metal roofs on a completely flat roof. Check out this video to learn more: ua-cam.com/video/wo6-ZPYx2A4/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared -Thad
Problem with metal roof it is only as good as the aplicator. That is also true with asphalt shingles too but there are more qualified installed with a lowered price point.
Metal roofing is the best l did my 5 car garage in2011 standing seam never had any problems it is fire resistant and good for 200mph winds.in 2022 took of.all vinyl siding and put up 3foot wide exposed fastener steel on all walls it looks great
I remember when houses with metal roof were looked down on and considered cheap houses for poor people that could not afford a good house built with a conventional roof. I will NEVER build or rebuild a house with out putting a metal roof on it and I will NEVER live any place with an HOA!!!
In Australia no one uses shingles they are rubbish. 95% are either concrete tiles or metal ( mostly colourbond corrugated). Paint manufacturers produce paint to match colour bondcolours. As for fading every roof material will fade, corrode or whatever. Penetrations must be on top wave of corrugated sheeting. Metal is the best material for an almost flat roof. Never seen oil caning you must have shit sheeting. Besides if you can’t see it from the street you cares. Metal roofing is lighter and cheaper than concrete tiles with less joins there less places for leaks. And as for flashing show me a roof without flashing.
Not one valid reason not to put metal or "Colorbond" roof. All roofs are expensive but unlike concrete tiles which crack and leak , or terracotta which go brittle with age and crack.
so if I don't like the look of metal roof or I can't afford a metal roof, I shouldn't buy a metal roof,! Freaking groundbreaking, thank you for wasting everyone who watches your video's time with absolute nonsense captain obvious!
Most Snaplock profiles can go down to a 3:12 slope, some mechanical seam profiles can go down to a 2:12 or lower depending on the installation and roof design. For ultra-low slope roofs or flat roofs, metal is not the best choice in most cases. Here's a video on the topic: ua-cam.com/video/wo6-ZPYx2A4/v-deo.html -Thad
@@TheMetalRoofingChannel Thanks. I'm in Hawaii in a costal application with about half of the roof at 0.5:12 and half at 2-3:12. The "ask your contractor" advice in the other video is failing me as their only advice is an extra layer of peel-n-stick. My impetus is that I need to replace my solar systemand it is a lot of penetrations through the roof with the alternatives. The solar all goes on the "flat" roof.
I would say ask your roofing manufacturer for more guidance on low-slope installation. Also mention your solar plans to them as they should have some info on that as well. If you will be installing a standing seam roof, there are clamps you can get for solar from companies like S-5! that do not penetrate the roof. -Thad
Why get paper tar roofing its not 1900. Seen thousands of dollars worth of damage caused by old tar paper roof leaks. Put metal up there and be done with it.
Tiles more expensive. Any professional roofer would have no problems with a metal roof. This seems to be a BS topic. Having had 5 different homes with metal roof, never had any problems.
Metal is an awesome option for so many applications! We've done hundreds of videos on the benefits of metal roofing, but we still acknowledge that it's not a one-size-fits-all product. Thanks for your comment! -Thad
@rdk162 Did you not notice the logo on his shirt? Sheffield Metals is a metal company. They do want to provide metal roofing. They also don't want to have disappointed potential customers who feel that they've been over-promised to if they only hear rosy things about their products from them. You build trust with people by being realistic and also telling people when your product is not the best fit for a given situation.
I installed a metal roof 20 plus years ago on the house,garage and sunroom and it still looks new. Never have to replace it in my lifetime .
Glad to hear it! Metal roofs are an awesome choice for many applications! -Thad
Metal all the way. I've installed a lot of different roofs. Galvalume 3 foot wide, my favorite. Talk about savings one money and future problems. Metal rules
Is Galvalume a mix of galvanized aluminum? Also, what, if any, has been your experience with aluminum vs steel metal roofs? Do aluminum withstand rust better than steel? Do coatings that deflect sun come off after so extent time? And how does aluminum withstand hail? Sorry so many questions.
After installing and using both shingle and metal roofing, I'll never do any other roof besides steel in the future. They are MUCH better in all ways (at least in Canada.) 25 year shingles only lasted 10 years. Metal roofs last over 50 years. With the price of installation rising every year, it's far better to bite the bullet and get it done right the first time, then forget about it the rest of your life. I loved the fact that snow slid right off too, too much weight on a roof can damage buildings, especially older ones. I had a tree limb fall on the roof and all it did was dent the steel. It would have put a hole in a shingle roof. You'll never have a leak with a steel roof once it's done right. Shingles can seem good, but slowly leak, damaging roof and underlayment, and eventually drywall. One friend of mine had leaks go down through the walls through three floors. I installed a steel roof and that solved that problem. Sure some roofs are trickier than others, but that's a job that only has to be done once. Shingles need to be done every 10-20 years, so a complicated roof needs to be done again and again. I love steel so much I ripped off the rotten flat roof on my travel trailer and installed a steel pitched roof. No more problems with water damage for as long as I live! There are some reasons to buy a metal roof. Oh, do it yourself and save a tonne of money, it's not that difficult. You can even find manufacturers that offer "2nds" or miscut sales, bringing the cost down to comparable with shingles.
I live in the Sesttle area, and have a 3-tab tar-shingle composite roof that is 22 years old now, and still looks new. It has a 3-12 pitch. The previous roof was corrugated aluminum installed over old 3-tab "tar shingles" - the screws holding the aluminum were installed on the tops of ridges, and the eventual leaking at the screws caused a lot of wood rot. No idea why they installed the screws on the floating ridges, but they could not maintain a secure compression on the rubber washers under the screw heads, as there was always about a 1-inch gap between the aluminum ridge and the hard shingles below it.
@@logmeindangit It is possible that different locations and weather need different methods. Perhaps in the colder areas the ridge screwing works better, our sun is not has hot as down South. If you get no snow and only very hot days, the metal is doing a lot more expanding and contracting, so a tight connection would be more beneficial. However rubber washers are only supposed to be snugged so the rubber only begins to bulge - if you tighten it too much it will ruin the washer and leaks will come in. If you don't snug it enough, water will get in. I would never install steel over a shingle roof without first screwing down wood slats and screwing into them, because shingles compress and can give after you screw them down. Screwing into wood slats won't allow this to happen. Also, having air between the steel allows it to cool faster and not retain heat pumped into direct contact with shingles underneath, one of the advantages of steel.
I live in South Florida and I am considering installing a metal roof. Do you know of any experience metal roofer that you would recommend? Also can a ridge vent be installed in a metal roof as well? I currently have one on my 15 y/o shingles roof. Thanks for your feedback
@@elizabethirizarry9312 Installing metal roofing is not hard. In fact, I would say it is even easier than shingles. You shouldn't have trouble finding a handyman that can do the job. In FL I would use a white or lighter colour roof, since you get a lot of sun and don't need heat much. The white or light color will reflect the sun's heat and keep your home cooler. Definitely do a ridge vent - you don't want extra holes in your roof with regular vents. I have used whole ridge venting for all my roofs with no issues at all. Simply leave a 2" gap along the entire ridge on both sides of the support beam, cover with a black material designed to keep bugs out and air to flow, then cap with a metal ridge cap that covers it with a few extra inches overhang.
I've lived in houses that were 100 years old that had an original corrugated iron roof.. in those days you just needed to paint them every 5 years. Now they have the color baked on.
I built my first house with metal singles and wouldn't use them again, but my new house has a corrugated metal roof and has lived through 2 cyclones. I put corrugated roofing iron on my new shed as well, and it has lived through one cyclone so far. I will continue using it on every new roof I do.
Best reason to get a metal roof is the sound of rain on it. BEST LULLABY EVER!!!!
My home is 197 years old. This standing seam roof has been on this house before me. I have know idea when it was installed. I was 1 1/2 old when my parents bought this farm and this is the most reliable roof I could ever ask for. It’s been repainted 3 times. My opinion, it the only kind of roof I would ever have.
Can you tell me more about this painting process? Do you contract this out?
What they sell today as Standing Seam is not it at all It's practically a lost art now. Made from rolls of 2ft wide galvanized steel, the seams are folded together and crimped to make a continuous sheet with all fasteners concealed underneath, completely leak and wind proof.
@@Czurovec my father painted it. I’m needing to paint it now. I’m thinking of using an enamel paint like automotive paint. It will be expensive but worth it
As a 35 year metal roofer, I can give you 11 reasons to install a metal roof. And many metal roof systems are designed for low pitch roofing.
Yep, in australia in real high wind areas your insurance is lower if its a metal roof..
In what state do you do business? I am in Southern California and there is not many roofers that want to do metal but I would rather invest in the long term to replace my three layers of composite shingles and four layers of paint, 2 silicone.
Min. slope for metal should be 1 in 3.
Yes, you can install a flat, waterproof metal roof too, but you are looking at sphisticated systems that cost $$$$$$...!!!
Does this reviewer know what he's talking about ???
@@georgevavoulis4758
Yes, he does.
The key to metal roofs, all things being equal, is the labour.
Do they know what thye're doing?
I always love great unbiased information that'll help me make the best decision. Thanks
I love my metal roofing. I'll never have to shingle again in my lifetime. There are some additional downsides to metal roofs that you didn't mention. Metal roofs repel both radio and cell phone signals. My area is rural where cell phone signals are fairly weak anyway. We had to install a TV tower and a cell booster system in order to get a proper reception and voice transmission. Before we had to step outside the house to receive any signals.
If you're in a rural, bad signal area (me too) you are going to have to use a booster anyways. The up side of blocking radio and microwave radiation is that you live longer - no excess bombardment to your body whil living inside :) Will come in handy once that massive solar EM pulse hits us, and it will protect your sensitive electronics too!
@@timfarry7071 A little late for me to be concerned about some of these things - but true. I'm retired and play with tube electronics for fun so my tower has multiple antennas.
it seems a little hotter in the summer than when I had shingles. Takes longer to cool off.
i was a union sandblaster/steel painter for 15 years and went to decorator after, i have worked in protective coatings at LTV steel, US steel, Inland steel, bethlehem steel, intech steel, and have relined huge steel storage tanks in tank farms all over the south and west of lake michigan.
i retired to the philippines and built a house beside the ocean with my own 2 hands that was designed by me as well.
my roof is corrugated steel, the 'wavy stuff' its rather thick and i had it trucked in from some distance. it's screwed onto 3/4 inch plywood resting on 2x6 'philippine mahogany' rafters every 4 ft on center with 2x2s as purlins (nailers) every 4 ft (but they are flush so not really perlins).
I cleaned the sheet metal off with rags and MEK to remove any oily areas or dirt and primed it with 2 coats of iron oxide(both sides) before installing it.. after it was all screwed down i touched up any small scratches and screw heads then used white industrial enamel oil paint, 3 thin coats on that.
that was in 2017, in 2023 i washed it down with soap and water and rinsed it well then hand sanded a few spots that looked like they may need it and recoated it with 2 more thin coats of white oil enamel.
it still looks great and it has lowered the temperature in the house by reflecting the hot sun dramatically, you can touch any bare metal here at noon and it will burn your fingers. my roof feels like 65-70 degrees at noon. i have had zero rust(even beside the ocean) and zero coating failure and zero leaks.
the temp here never varies too much staying between 65-95 degrees F so the expansion and contraction is not a problem , (and even less of a problem after painting since it stays between 65-75 degrees now! ).
anything can be painted if you know what you're doing and use the correct materials.
edit - i used galvanized screws with little rubber gaskets under the heads (dont over tighten and smash the gasket!)
Thank you Chad ! Looking to do a metal roof this spring. Subscribed to your channel to gather info. Another informative video. Thanks for sharing
I’m a diy metal roofer, love the stuff, luckily no HOA telling me what to do. Every new building on my property gets metal. Metal is also great for rain water catchment, which I do. Lol, even my Conex has a shade roof on top of it with metal.
I recently got a metal roof done and found a small leak in the porch. When I investigated, I found one of the screws was not all the way down because of a burr. This prevented the rubber washer from making good contact with the sheet metal. I spoke with the installer and learned that the rubber washers are the only thing preventing leaks. You should check your screws and washers to make sure they are all the way down and not rotting away. He also told me they can be replaced but be sure to use larger screws so they bite into the wood going into the same holes.
I don't recall the last time I felt I was getting an honest presentation from someone who wanted to sell me something. You have my respect. Thank you and God bless. Miles
Interesting things to think about. The damage later on was interesting knowing colors fade and replacement sections would be hard to match... Thumbs Up!
In west Texas shingles are useless in hail storm. 26 gauge metal.
asphalt shingles don't seem to last but 12-15 here in the super hot sun south USA, but metal roofs might prevent your cell phone from working good in your house, but add a cell signal booster on the outside of your house. Metal is the way to go, but the cost was insane when I just built a new house, metal was going to be 3x the cost of asphalt shingles.
We get 70 mph winds every Spring and massive hail in the summer. Have had metal and now shingle roofing on a different house. The metal was dented but still works great. Had heavy duty shingles that completely glue down and very thick and have survived 4 years of those winds and hail and look great. Need to find a metal screen for skylights as they need replacing every year or two from hail damage.
Great video. By informing people of the "11 reasons you should NOT buy a metal roof", you are saving customers, vendors, and contractors a lot of money, time, and grief.
I installed a metal roof over 2x4 strapping. By eliminating plywood sheets, it actually came out more economical. With good air ventilation, there is no rot like with plywood. Some told me that it is going to be noisy, but with a 1" vapor barrier and 26" blown-in insulation, it is very quiet.
It is 13 years old and like new.
Good for the environment too. Shingles make a mess at landfills.
thank you I appreciate this information. I live in Georgia. It rains really hard and most of the houses we have purchased. The roof doesn’t seem to be a sound as we like going into our forever home worst but thinking about switching over to a metal roof
Good comments. Another downside is the safety aspect. I've seen videos of workers without harnesses sliding off of metal roof. On the other hand, another big PLUS is that you don't have to worry about moss buildup with a metal roof.
Property fall protection is always a must on any elevated surface! You are correct that there are some benefits of having a slick roofing surface, such as shedding snow. -Thad
The internet is….FULL of BAD ADVICE ! !…here’s a prime EXAMPLE ! !
How so? I am trying to determine if a metal roof or shingle roof is a better option so I would like to hear your take. Thanks.
Love mine. Was cheaper than shingles and was done in half a day on a simple ranch house. Love the sound when it rains.
Sounds like a winning combo! Thanks for sharing! -Thad
Having lost a home to a wildfire, that started with leaves in the gutters igniting the facia boards...I want metal next time. I want the facia and soffits metal too.
QUESTION - Does the rain sound louder inside a house with a metal roof?
Yes
not if you have good insulation
I love the sound of rain on a metal roof!
Not with my roof. But it is really loud on my metal roof covered deck.
As the other replies alluded to, it depends on your attic space and insulation. Noticeable differences are usually found in situations where there is not much building material between the actual roof and where you are standing. -Thad
Our home is at the very edge of California’s 2020 Creek Fire. Many of our neighbors homes were destroyed. The surprise was how mwny survived when everything around them was ash and burned trees. What jumped out was each surviving home inside the fire had metal roofing. Burning embers simply rolled off. We bought the ten-year old home 30 years ago, and replaced the composite roof 25 years ago. Acorn Woodpeckers absolutely love composite roofing. The roof was full of holes stuffed with acorns. After the metal was installed the peckers beat on it for a few weeks, then left, baffled. Excellent investment.
Metal does offer advanced protection in wildfire-prone areas. Great point! -Thad
Yeah, I’m a GC, I installed my own metal roof, it was faster and easier than any other roof I’ve installed. And man was it fast.
I recall hail damaging quite a few metal roofs in the area. Some insurance companies only replaced the damaged panels. Since the existing roofs were several years old the homeowners upended up with unsightly striped roofs (new panels installed next to or between existing faded panels). It made me not want a metal roof on our new home.
I never watched this video as I'm A believer in metal roofs. The old style, screws with a cupped rubber gasket works well for about 15 years. The screws should be replaced with a little bit larger screw with new cupped rubber gasket seal. This maintenance at 15 year intervals will provide a leak proof roof for a hundred years or so.
@@JimTakeoutademocrate-ir1be The real old style was lead headed nails. Screws and gaskets was a later method.
They should use a textured metal instead of smooth sheets. It would help disguise hail damage somewhat. " oil canning" can be caused by contraction and expansion.
I built my house 10 years ago, red barn metal on the walls and white barn metal on the roof. Spray foam insulation. I’ll live here until I die.
double locked seamed roof is approved on slope as low as 1:12 according to the specifications. i would love to hear your opinion on that. thank you for your work!
I worked in roof replacement and those asphalt comp roof warranties and ratings are not worth the shingle wrapper that they are written on. I also saw the mountains of asphalt roofing waste in the landfill. It really turned me against asphalt comp roofing. Metal roofs can be pressure washed, primed and repainted down the road when the paint looks chalky. Good video though...some good points.\
When building a house, a simple functional roof design will save you a lot of headaches down the road regardless what type of roof system you use.
Metal does have the advantage of being easily recycled! -Thad
Stinking moss buildup between shingles was my metal roof purchase.
just signed a contract for a 24g mill finish standing seams metal roof. Cant wait to have it finished!
Congrats! That will be an awesome look for your project! -Thad
Agree with all 11 reasons.
I'll add another.
Metal roofs are noisy when it rains heavily.
Will keep you awake at night!
Had a metal roof for 14 years and had to look outside to see if it was raining. Spray foam insulation is the secret of no noise!
@@gusoliva8801
Forget which one it is, the open cell or the closed cell, but one foam insulation allows moisture to form on the cold side, and then you get mould. Check your attic!
Yes, foam insulation will dampen the noise, but better make sure you use the right foam, and that it's applied correctly.
Otherwise, noise will be a much smaller problem!
You can use Malarkey legacy shingles that will last 40 years. Never gets damaged by hail . For less then half the cost of a standing seam roof.
If the customer wants to spend big bucks cedar is a good alternative.
If they want standing seam then good.
Why do they screw the roof off in the valley not in the rib most likely leak
I asked that question too. My son, a graduate engineer, told me to screw it on the rib. Works well and no problems.
@@jimgordon7305 I'm surprised the number of people who put a nail though the pan or valley at the Ridge just asking for a leak
The old late 60s home we had had corrugated galvanized roof that lasted well over 40 years due to a specific type of silver metal roofing paint that was applied once every 2-3 years and it has survived numerous hurricanes, my parents sold the house and the current owner changed it to I believe the 3 tab shingles and had to replace the shingles after a hurricane.
Great story! Thanks for sharing! -Thad
I shopped for a metal roof on my home back in 2008, at the time my house was 16 years old and I paid $87k for the home new. The price for a new metal roof was back in 2008 was $45k, for a house that cost $87k. I told the roofer to get lost.
Thanks for sharing, it doesn't always make financial sense based on your situation. -Thad
Instillation of solar panels on a metal roof wasn’t mentioned ?😅
I would say that is a reason you SHOULD buy a metal. They allow solar panels to be simply clamped to the seams so that no penetrations have the opportunity to leak. -Thad
I'm in northern Virginia, what are some products that you would recommend? anything to avoid? I know a steel of at least 24 gauge thickness with the impact resistance rating, but anything else I should look for?
I would recommend checking around for a textured metal,it doesn't glare in sun an you can walk it (not slick) an it looks really good
Is it okay to do metal over asphalt shingles
you have some valid points… others are just common sense or personal choices
You got it! -Thad
The law has changed in Florida state wide no HOA can stop you from installing a metal roof.
I owned a home with a 98 year old metal roof the original metal roof. Got a leak replaced several old fashioned screws with the new rubber gasket kind no leak. 98 years of continuous service . Asphalt maybe 20 years in Florida by then all stained ,discolored , curling up ,filling gutters with gravel yeah asphalt is great.
That cool, wish Texas could follow suit!
I did metal roofing for a year, this all sounded good except for number 8. I worked in a pair with a Amish contractor, and we could get a 50x160 foot roof on in about 6 hours, more complex roofs rarely took more than 2-3 days.
I’d like to see anyone shingle a roof in less than 8 hours
That's impressive stuff! It definitely depends on the amount of experience and skill the crew has! -Thad
Fortunately, my roof is perfect for metal roofing and none of the other issues apply.
Best of all, the previous owner footed the bill to convert the home from composite shingles to metal roofing.
But the siding sucks.
You did not mention that metal. roofs and siding block radio signals from your receivers inside the home and also interferes with television reception.
I like a house that has a simple A frame roof with little or no obstructions, thus a metal roof is the way I go.
And I don't like that flimsy 5 groove tin. I call that "chicken coupe roofing". What I like is commercial grade metal roofing.
One of the things that will corroded metal roofing is if there is a pecan tree near the house. Pecan tree droppings have lots of tanic acid. Parking your car under a pecan tree is also a bad practice for the same reason.
I have a metal roof on my garage it’s been up 3 years , the metal roof is now leaking . I live in upstate NY and the wind has been insane here , I think the wind has affected this roof , also the sound of the rain coming down on this roof is insanity . The company that installed the garage is coming out to look at the issue ..
I'm considering metal roofing and are looking at people's experiences. Have you figured out the cause of your leak yet? Was it the fasteners? Also, If you don't mind my asking, do you know what pitch is your roof, what kind of metal is your roof, and the gauge of the metal?
it gets windy here, I checked my metal roof 6 months after installation and found several screws sticking up. I believe the panels had settled down and/or wind had pulled them up. I screwed the screws down no problem.
One good thing about metal roofing is you can go with the blue color that is not affected by attack lasers from the sky, should your house ever be attacked.We already have a house with a blue metal roof in our neighborhood.
I bought a metal roof,and I got a contractor that was recommended by the company that sold it,2 weeks later I had water marks all inside my house, had to pay another guy to come straighten out the mess
Hmmm 11 reason not too...? I have many why you should consider metal! Recently we had hurricane helene come 600 miles inland thur the upstate SC with wind speeds topping 100mph with driving rain that lasted several hours! recently installed Shingles roofs less than 1 year old destroyed by wind hinged, while metal roofs many years old untouch lived to see another day! Beside if metal was damage you can just replace the damage panels and get paid to recycle the metal, where as shingles have less of a chance of matching there for entire roof need stripping including underlayment end up in landfill just adds to cost!
If I have a 25ft shed roof, can I still put metal on it? How do I hide the seams?
My roof has a 45 degree pitch angle, and I'm in north west ohio...which is longest lasting best roof material ?metal shingles, metal hidden fastner, or asphalt.?
Im from northwest ohio too crazy!! haha
Fake news. All my old friends from Europe have aluminum roofs, last 100 years, zero issues. In 20 years in Canada I changed 2 roofs, very inconvenient.
Hi, so really would like a standing seam metal roof but have a low slope roof. Not a complicated roof only a couple pipes coming through. From my understanding machine seamed is the only metal roof system appropriate for my roof. Is that true? And should I still look to a different roofing system if I have this low slope, also live in Alaska and will have snow on it. Thanks.
2nd asphalt shingle roof will cost MORE after inflation. Expect 18-20 years. An old roof will not be salable. The seller may have to pay for a new roof, to close the deal.
Great point! The next roof you buy will cost more than a roof you buy today. If you go with a system that has an extensive lifespan, such as metal, you can avoid that problem. -Thad
Don’t they have corrugated iron roof in American?
great video
We love our metal roof. But some of our neighbors don't because they cause glare. What can we do ro reduce the glare?
You could probably use a paint that doesn't reflect light... that might affect the temperature, though. I'd check with the manufacturer first.
Don't glare, smile.
I will install metal on my home no matter what. No matter what.
Is it a good idea to get metal shingles? I do have some live oak trees near one side of the home. I live in Florida. How good are they with wind resistance and are they more difficult to install?
Long run standing seam is the best option. I would not do shingles.
@@NoSpam1891Hi! Could you please expand on why you wouldn't recommend metal shingles? The one I'm eyeballing is the Hurricane metal shake, made of steel i think. Looks more like a conventional asphalt shingle, so I think the HOA would approve. They advertise these as being a life time shingle, but the cost is exorbitant upfront. Looking around to find information of how these really stand up to the weather ( leaks, hurricane, and life span).
@doradean3097 I prefer long run steel with a standing seam. Properly installed, I believe it's the best option for any sort of serious weather incident etc. Obviously the HOA is a complication.
By and large, I would not put any other type of covering on my roof. On my acreage, I have slowly replaced the asphalt shingles on my roofs. The earliest roof was done with metal 40 years ago. Absolutely, was my best investment Now a days, metal roofing is not that much more than asphalt shingles. A metal roof done properly, is a lifetime investment. You will never have to re shingle your roof again. Hail may cause some dents in the metal roof, but so what? It will still work as before.
Furthermore, if one is building a house and can't afford a metal roof, then I say wait until you save up a couple more thousand and put the metal roof on. That's all it cost me to redo the roof on my house with decent quality metal roofing. Now I will never have to worry about it again.
When I look at recommended material to roof slope, low slope is usually paired with metal roof. Why do you seem to disagree with all those other sources?
Metal roofs can be used on a low-slope application, but it has to be the right type of profile and assembly. One size doesn't fit all, as most exposed fastener profiles and snaplock standing seam profiles are not recommended to be installed on roofs under a 3:12. Also, I do not recommend metal roofs on a completely flat roof. Check out this video to learn more: ua-cam.com/video/wo6-ZPYx2A4/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared -Thad
Problem with metal roof it is only as good as the aplicator. That is also true with asphalt shingles too but there are more qualified installed with a lowered price point.
Great point! Installation error is one of the top reasons why a standing seam metal roofing system might fail. -Thad
Metal roofing is the best l did my 5 car garage in2011 standing seam never had any problems it is fire resistant and good for 200mph winds.in 2022 took of.all vinyl siding and put up 3foot wide exposed fastener steel on all walls it looks great
I do love a good standing seam roof! Thanks for sharing! -Thad
I remember when houses with metal roof were looked down on and considered cheap houses for poor people that could not afford a good house built with a conventional roof. I will NEVER build or rebuild a house with out putting a metal roof on it and I will NEVER live any place with an HOA!!!
Modern asphalt shingles are absolute garbage nowadays, metal roof is the way to go, and you can get them now that looks like shingles
a neighbor's outbuilding burned like crazy because the shingles caught fire
Depends on the installer can be the best roof
You're a renter
You live in your car
Your roof is fine
You don't have an money
Your house is on fire
It's raining...
Lots of good reasons 🎉❤
Just stop using smooth metal,textured metal is the only metal i work with,check with your suppliers, you can walk it on 8/12 an it dont oil can
Your nuts!!! Best thing i ever did
My roof is metal and my house is brick. Pretty much maintanence free.
That is a strong building envelope for sure! -Thad
In Australia no one uses shingles they are rubbish. 95% are either concrete tiles or metal ( mostly colourbond corrugated). Paint manufacturers produce paint to match colour bondcolours. As for fading every roof material will fade, corrode or whatever. Penetrations must be on top wave of corrugated sheeting. Metal is the best material for an almost flat roof. Never seen oil caning you must have shit sheeting. Besides if you can’t see it from the street you cares. Metal roofing is lighter and cheaper than concrete tiles with less joins there less places for leaks. And as for flashing show me a roof without flashing.
Try European style building and roofs.
always remember to ground your metal roof in one spot to a solid earth grounding electrode.
Well, metal works great on my barns.
Metal can be a great choice for lots of different applications for sure. Thanks for sharing! -Thad
Not one valid reason not to put metal or "Colorbond" roof. All roofs are expensive but unlike concrete tiles which crack and leak , or terracotta which go brittle with age and crack.
You mist one : the structure cont' support this new roof !
This is extremely rare and a misconception, as metal roofs generally weigh the same or even less than an asphalt shingle roof. -Thad
Well I know a tile roof is poor man’s roof, they crack, break easily, leak, also they don’t stand up cyclonic weather either.
Yea, if you wat your house to look like a restaurant chain ?
Hard to repair yourself. Can't walk on it. Paint comes off. Condensation leaks into the attic. Too expensive. More noise from rain and hail.
I got a metal roof and my furnace and AC don't run as much!
Metal does awesome great opportunities for energy savings! -Thad
Comments are the best part of this video 👍😎
You're not kidding! -Thad
Metal is expensive because it's not popular.
If it makes sense, and people want it, the price should come down.
Certainly in areas of low supply (limited access to materials and/or qualified labor) will have costs driven up. -Thad
Standing seem yes but cost $$$$$ regular raised seem metal oh hell no shingles any day
so if I don't like the look of metal roof or I can't afford a metal roof, I shouldn't buy a metal roof,! Freaking groundbreaking, thank you for wasting everyone who watches your video's time with absolute nonsense captain obvious!
The low-pitch roof comment is odd and I wish was expanded on more.
Most Snaplock profiles can go down to a 3:12 slope, some mechanical seam profiles can go down to a 2:12 or lower depending on the installation and roof design. For ultra-low slope roofs or flat roofs, metal is not the best choice in most cases. Here's a video on the topic: ua-cam.com/video/wo6-ZPYx2A4/v-deo.html -Thad
@@TheMetalRoofingChannel Thanks. I'm in Hawaii in a costal application with about half of the roof at 0.5:12 and half at 2-3:12. The "ask your contractor" advice in the other video is failing me as their only advice is an extra layer of peel-n-stick.
My impetus is that I need to replace my solar systemand it is a lot of penetrations through the roof with the alternatives. The solar all goes on the "flat" roof.
I would say ask your roofing manufacturer for more guidance on low-slope installation. Also mention your solar plans to them as they should have some info on that as well. If you will be installing a standing seam roof, there are clamps you can get for solar from companies like S-5! that do not penetrate the roof. -Thad
I vetoed metal because I’m too close to salt water and that voids ALL manufacturers warranty
There are coastal warranties available for projects completed with certain substrates, such as aluminum. -Thad
Why get paper tar roofing its not 1900. Seen thousands of dollars worth of damage caused by old tar paper roof leaks. Put metal up there and be done with it.
I don't believe in exsposed fasteners systems
Cell phone reception?
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Tiles more expensive. Any professional roofer would have no problems with a metal roof. This seems to be a BS topic. Having had 5 different homes with metal roof, never had any problems.
Metal is an awesome option for so many applications! We've done hundreds of videos on the benefits of metal roofing, but we still acknowledge that it's not a one-size-fits-all product. Thanks for your comment! -Thad
Says a guy who sells shingles
@rdk162 Did you not notice the logo on his shirt? Sheffield Metals is a metal company. They do want to provide metal roofing. They also don't want to have disappointed potential customers who feel that they've been over-promised to if they only hear rosy things about their products from them. You build trust with people by being realistic and also telling people when your product is not the best fit for a given situation.
@@seabream did you notice that I don’t give a shit
@@rdk162 No. He noticed that you are not very smart!