Sweet Protection Rocker Kayak Helmet "Unboxing/Review"

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2024

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  • @WadeHarrison
    @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +2

    👇👇 *Link to get Your Sweet Rocker Helmet Here* 👇👇
    *Sweet Protection Rocker* 👉👉 Helmet amzn.to/3COR9ty
    *Sweet Protection Wanderer M/L* 👉👉amzn.to/3KPaZJK
    *Sweet Protection Wanderer S/M* 👉👉amzn.to/3QQ7nep

  • @BradDavis1974
    @BradDavis1974 2 роки тому +7

    I wear the full-face version of this helmet (also in gloss white) and I love it. I chose it over the half-cut simply for the added protection. The jaw/mouth guard on my helmet has taken some serious hits which may or may not have gotten to my teeth if I didn't have it. I agree that it does make it harder for people to hear and understand me on the river, but to be honest, most people don't pay much attention to what I say anyway...haha. Best helmets made IMO.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah just wait and tell us when you get off the river 😂
      Thanks for the feedback

  • @ElliottLaw
    @ElliottLaw 2 роки тому +4

    I have the strutter and recently purchased the rocker over the winter. I love both helmets and think they both have a place in the paddlesport world. The Rocker is a better choice overall.

  • @NickBarlow
    @NickBarlow 2 роки тому +3

    I have found that people are either a sweet or wrsi/other user. I think head shape plays a part in the divide, sweet fits oblong where WRSI fits round well. I prefer the half cut as the FF was too close to my cheeks and felt awkward putting on and taking off. The strutter has been delegated to light days where less chance of tipping. For me the brim acts like a scoop so I main use the rocker. And yes the green is the way to go, I too am a lemon lime color kid. Thanks for your videos and information!

  • @macfawlty
    @macfawlty 2 роки тому +2

    Ok, I finally decided to buy the SP Rocker... at your rec' (+ the UVA study). I bought the M/L. With a head circ. of 22-1/4" or 57cm, it's definitely snug. I'll assume it opens up a bit over time? Obviously didn't need the extra pads, but if you were thinking of wearing a hat/cap underneath, consider the sizing relative to your measurements. Compared to my WRSI helmet, it's truly A LOT more supportive. The WRSI would always slide backwards and the only support is basically the under-chin (throat) strap, which is always a balance between support and choking. One thing I prefer on the WRSI is the removable liners, which I switch out and wash every time. Unsure how to remove the SP liner...

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah was crazy that UVA study dropped seriously a week after I made this video just proving my point even more.
      And I actually talked to a sweet protection rep and told him about all the comments on this video about sizes i really think there’s enough sales to justify a L/XL in today’s market seems they are loosing a lot of sales with the limited size options thanks for the feedback Mac..

  • @AC-oj6xr
    @AC-oj6xr 2 роки тому +3

    The best helmet I've found. Only negative is I have split my eyebrow on a rock. I also hit the visor screws with a little blue lock tight because they will come out and you forsure don't wanna overtighten them

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Yup I did the visor install video also check below 👇
      ua-cam.com/video/eAOK-HaF-1w/v-deo.html

  • @liam7342
    @liam7342 2 роки тому +4

    The reason for the goggle thing is because Sweet use the same shell for the Rocker and their Trooper (snowboarder/skii) helmet

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +1

      Good feedback thanks for that and after looking at the trooper I see exactly what you are talking about

  • @macfawlty
    @macfawlty 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @OriginalKSC
    @OriginalKSC 2 роки тому +2

    I appreciate you highlighting the importance of the foam liner which is mostly responsible for impact protection. WW seems to be a weird arena where there is a lot of variance in protection. A correction though, Sweet is not the only company that uses an EPP liner. Shred Ready uses EPP in their standard helmet. Palm also uses an EPP liner. I don't know if they're still around but even those weird looking cheap Predator full face helmets used EPP. WRSI uses EVA but in a multi-layer design that presumably has high impact qualities. EPS liners used for bicycling, etc. provide single impact protection and are therefore not as appropriate for WW where multi-impact protection is important.
    Note that Sweet does -not- use EPP in their lighter layup helmets like the Strutter.
    From what I've read the shell also plays a role in protection. The cheaper helmets will have ABS plastic. The composite helmets vary in what material is actually used, but if done right, they tend to use a stiffer material. The supposed advantage of the composite shell is that if there is a impact with something sharp, i.e. the impact is on a small part of the surface area of the helmet, the composite shell can better disperse the impact into a great surface area of the liner, where as the softer ABS plastic will tend put more of the force through that single impact point. So there may be a small advantage in protection from a composite shell.
    All that said, the Sweet Rocker is my favorite helmet as well. In my experience they put more thought into the fit of the helmet then Shred Ready and fit is going to play a huge role in protection as well. But I wanted to point out that Sweet is not the only player in the game when it comes to providing helmets with protective liners for kayaking.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Great feedback Kevin I have not looked at all brands that’s why I put the question out there I know the shred ready I have is just minicell foam but i agree with you the sweet rocker helmets are the best designed out there today for kayaking

  • @jamieh4814
    @jamieh4814 2 роки тому +1

    rocker half cut with visor and keep in the earpads. on hot days i use an sr standard half cut or if i’m in an inflatable. nothing beats the rocker for comfort and protection though.

  • @georgewilliamssr5230
    @georgewilliamssr5230 2 роки тому +3

    Sweet has definitely getting up to speed with helmet designs. But as far as big impact or multiple impact protection. I roll with WRSI. system features a 3 layer impact displacement shell. And I can tell you from years of experience. If I had been wearing anything else at the time of multiple incident. I probably wouldn't be here. I like Sweet, but I'm sticking with WRSI System.

    • @paulgriffiths531
      @paulgriffiths531 2 роки тому +1

      Wade, we need a wrsi review for comparison purposes (I should point out that I do have a wrsi current Pro, but I do fancy a rocker)

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      I really liked the research that was put behind that helmet really was one of the first to actually try to make kayaking helmets better
      I owned one years ago but not since it has become a NRS helmet but will give one a look again thanks for the feedback George

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      I will see if can get one

    • @georgewilliamssr5230
      @georgewilliamssr5230 2 роки тому

      @@WadeHarrison
      I do feel that NRS has let the quality slip. I own several older models of different kinds. I like them all. But I think the original concept is superior to some of the changes NRS has done with it.

    • @georgewilliamssr5230
      @georgewilliamssr5230 2 роки тому

      @@WadeHarrison
      ua-cam.com/video/URz2GQiM-2I/v-deo.html
      Check this out.

  • @macfawlty
    @macfawlty 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the tip on the Lock-Tight. I wasn't sure about the sprocket nut thing until I popped out the rubber logo on the visor. If you don't tighten the sprocket all the way, it would allow the visor to move on impact, reducing potential breakage...checking it regularly.

  • @artfisher1235
    @artfisher1235 2 роки тому +1

    Simple. I got a lacrosse helmet and placed the full face mask on it and now even when I am dragging along the bottom or jammed into crevices I am completely unconcerned. I cannot describe to you how much easier it is to breathe when your nose and mouth are not crushed. By the way, I just sawed out the worst offending wood on Upper Little River above Elkmont Campground in the Smokies just outside of Gatlinburg. Given the forecast, it looks like a great opportunity to hike up and put in the next couple of days.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Interesting I have looked at those helmets in stores

    • @paulgriffiths531
      @paulgriffiths531 Рік тому

      sounds a lot like a canoe polo helmet to me

  • @PALSRide
    @PALSRide 2 роки тому +2

    Wade great video and the only thing I would add is put lock tight on the screws , I do have both helmets and I ware the full face when it’s winter or really rocky

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Yes always and I filmed a visor install different video so this would not be so long I will have it uploaded soon

  • @colinbolger9645
    @colinbolger9645 2 роки тому +6

    I love the helmet but unfortunately the L/XL size is too tight on my head , it’s so uncomfortable , I have a strutter but it’s more oval and fits perfect but the rocker I cannot wear due to size 😢

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +4

      That seems to be a issue for alot of people thanks for the feedback maybe sweet should look at a XXL only helmet?

    • @darrenprice7662
      @darrenprice7662 2 роки тому +1

      @@WadeHarrison Same issues with here. I would love to have a Rocker but I wear a Strutter due to the size issue.

    • @timwatsonphotography
      @timwatsonphotography 2 роки тому +2

      Same for me when I tried one on a few years back. Try a Wanderer on. It’s a different head shape. Fits be perfectly.

    • @justdave3001
      @justdave3001 2 роки тому

      I just bought the Rocker in M/L and it is tight on my head. Other helmets fit me in this size but not the rocker. A friend is buying it off me as it fits him perfect. I will be buying the wanderer next week so we will see how that figment goes.

    • @theshadowshop
      @theshadowshop 2 роки тому

      Same for me. This helmet gives me a headache. That’s why I wear the strutter. Fits my oval head better

  • @pendelta
    @pendelta 2 роки тому +3

    Although I also believe this is the best helmet you can buy for kayaking, I think it’s incredibly sad how Sweet essentially hasn’t updated this helmet since it’s original release. Why is there no Rocker 2.0, or why are there no signs that Sweet is designing something better for kayaking. They’ve obviously updated the paint job and maybe made a few other minor tweaks, but from what I can tell, there is basically no difference from the original. I guess the reasoning is similar to anything else in whitewater - there is not enough money in the whitewater space to justify innovation. Or maybe it’s simply because there is no competition in the whitewater helmet arena for Sweet to care. Thoughts?

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +2

      Yes I agree it’s due a full upgrade to a 2.0 like you said they have done minimal tweaks like outfitting and colors but really the same design for years and after this video I see they definitely should look at a xxl version

  • @FeWolf
    @FeWolf Рік тому +1

    Just picked you sweet protection Strutter, Lime Green, very happy with it, the fit is very good.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  Рік тому

      I’m not a big fan of playboat helmets but if I owned one it be a sweets strutted!

  • @FeWolf
    @FeWolf 2 роки тому +2

    Green, will make you go faster. I use a WRSI Current, it is bright yellow and matte finish. Price, fit, and matte finish. and has a small bill on it. Like you I don't care for full face.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Green is fast and yeah the wrsi seem to be a close second to this one

  • @crypticboater7698
    @crypticboater7698 2 роки тому +1

    such a great helmet I run the dager color way and it's the most comfy/ tight fitting helmet I've put on my head

  • @paulgriffiths531
    @paulgriffiths531 2 роки тому +2

    Wade, almost all the people I see with rockers, do not have the visor attached - is there a reason for his (other than the hassle of attaching the visor) . is there a downside to having the visor on (eg more drag when rolling etc). Maybe people see kayakers like the senders crew who have rockers with no visors , and they copy them?

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +1

      They get broken off or just don’t want to fool with them and all the pros like the special paint jobs on the helmets and it throws it off with a visor 😂 I’m just guessing
      But really it’s probably personal preference I ran without one for a long time when mine broke and someone gave me a blue one that didn’t want so I installed it

  • @joshhughes1319
    @joshhughes1319 2 роки тому +2

    Do you know if Sweet is continuing to manufacture WW helmets? They have discontinued other great gear (I love the Shambala shorts, but not making anymore) and I have an e-mail saying they were getting out of WW apparel. Didn't know if this applied to helmets.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +1

      I heard they have no plans of stopping production of WW helmets I totally understand why no dry gear that’s a tough market to be in and their stuff was amazing 🤩

    • @icelandicwhitewater
      @icelandicwhitewater 2 роки тому +1

      That’s how the company started so my guess is they will continue. Plus, they basically own the ww helmet market over here in Europe.

  • @wespate54
    @wespate54 2 роки тому +1

    You know the Rocker is a interesting helmet for me. I bought the purple one not to long ago and absolutely love it. I have a lot of curly hair atop my head so the M/L just was to tight no matter what and crushed my temples. I settle with the L/XL but I ran across the issue of it bein just slightly to big. I bought a 5 panel hat to wear under the helmet and it has drastically increased the comfort in paddling with the helmet and I couldn't ask for a better brain bucket.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      The hat helps I know several people that run hats

  • @patrickbusche5665
    @patrickbusche5665 2 роки тому +1

    Really great helmet, in white I got it, too, looks amazing, and its one of the best on the market.
    But doesnt protect against mosquitos....👍

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +1

      😂 nope those things are brutal

  • @VegasMike1904
    @VegasMike1904 2 роки тому +1

    I have the Rocker in gloss white. According to the size chart I wear the LG/XL, so I bought it and had to use the fit kit to get it perfect.
    The first time I flipped the helmet almost fell off my head. I found when it was wet, it was way too big. So I got the M/L and it fits a little tight. Until it gets wet, then it fits perfectly. So before I paddle now I need to dip my helmet so it will be comfortable.
    Has anyone else noticed the size changes when wet?

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Oh that’s interesting thanks for the feedback

  • @brentwade9346
    @brentwade9346 Рік тому +1

    I have the Wanderer ii in L/XL - it fits perfect out of the box, but like one of the earlier posters, I find it fits extremely deep - the dropped section of the inner liner sits right on my eyebrows. Unfortunately they didn't have a Rocker in stock in L/XL. I was gonna order one, but it seems from comments below that the fit is quite different, which has me a bit worried. WRSI doesn't fit me at all - too round. Maybe I'll just rock my Shoei motorcycle helmet ;-)

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  Рік тому +2

      Yeah I don’t know why they don’t make a XL mold

  • @DejanSmaic
    @DejanSmaic Рік тому +2

    I have spent 35 years racing bicycles and can tell you I would not be here today if it weren't for a good lid. I have used the Sweet Rocker for 7 years, for as long as I have paddled, and my 15 yo son as well. It is not only the most comfortable helmet I have ever worn, but I actually "like" wearing it, and has saved my head more than a few times. I won't wear anything but a Sweet and my son as well. How much is your brain worth?

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  Рік тому +1

      Crazy after I did this video that helmet impact study came out on these and they score very high and confirms everything that your saying

  • @mikelambino
    @mikelambino 2 роки тому +1

    Great review! Gonna check this helmet out.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +1

      For sure let me know what you think

  • @jessehill3780
    @jessehill3780 Рік тому +1

    Nice video and I think I’m gonna give this a go even though I just got the wrsi current pro but now see the study that concludes my worry about this helmet. I felt inside and thought man there’s not much impact absorbing with this hard shell right by my head but then the NRS chaos I got fits like crap (medium pinched my temples so I had to go large but then it’s loose on the side). So only used the WRSI twice and just not all that impressed with their o brace thing however it does have height adjustment which I don’t see in the sweet protection which might be a deal breaker. Coming from MTB and snowboarding I can’t believe how terrible whitewater kayak helmets are, bell and giro there is a huge market here waiting for you, brings some full spherical mips and dial adjustable retention to the kayak world and it would be game changing.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  Рік тому +1

      Yes, that awesome and if not, the rocker gets the wanderer Links Below
      Sweet Protection Rocker👉👉 Helmet amzn.to/3COR9ty
      Sweet Protection Wanderer M/L👉👉amzn.to/3KPaZJK
      Sweet Protection Wanderer S/M👉👉amzn.to/3QQ7nep

    • @jessehill3780
      @jessehill3780 Рік тому

      We’ll just got my M/L rocker and I can’t tell if the sizing is supposed to be a joke or what. I’m always a M in every brand I’ve ever used and I measure on the smaller side of 57cm and this thing is absolutely crushing the sides of my head. Returning it and hoping the L/XL isn’t a huge step up that the pads can’t bring back down otherwise I’m just stuck with the WRSI even though it’s protection isn’t that great. Need some Bell and Giro options for better fit and protection.

  • @trifilmer
    @trifilmer 2 роки тому +1

    I like these but I have found the WRSI Current Pro fits my noggin' better. That's a great brain bucket as well!

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      That seems to be the biggest drawback to the rocker maybe with this video that will look into a XXL size thanks for the feedback

  • @macfawlty
    @macfawlty 2 роки тому +1

    Good overview of the tech and safety features. Probably works as a MTB helmet as well! I pulled the ear pads out of my WRSI Current Pro, but I should probably put them back in or use ear plugs cuz I keep getting minor ear infections. Not sure they’re designed for that. Do the SP pads really keep the water out?

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      They have worked great for me but if full on playboating I still use doc proplugs

  • @GodTuba
    @GodTuba 2 роки тому +2

    How often do you retire helmets?

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +2

      If take really hard hits should retire it but this one I had about 4 years theres no right answer In my opinion but usually 2-3 years should start thinking retirement

    • @phildiamond
      @phildiamond Рік тому

      @@WadeHarrison speaking of hard hits...what would you consider to be hard? I recently took a decent hit to the head wearing a rocker, resulting in a concussion. Not any visible damage to the shell or foam (other than scratches and small dent on the shell). I know it's sweet's position to replace a helmet after a hit regardless of visibility of damage..but is that more directed towards the biking realm where the helmets are made to "explode" with a big impact?

  • @webb_11
    @webb_11 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Wade, loving all the vids as always!! I love my Sweet Rocker helmet, so light and can take a lot of abuse!! I wouldn’t wear anything else 👍

  • @ivanmorales7452
    @ivanmorales7452 2 роки тому +1

    What do you think about the strutter? Only for class 4? Thanks four your videos, greetings from México. ✌️

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +2

      The stutters good for playboating and all round river running but as far as protection not even close to the rocker

  • @mikewillifordjr
    @mikewillifordjr 2 роки тому +2

    Love my rocker

  • @IraFowler3
    @IraFowler3 2 роки тому +1

    Best recent purchase after a series facial injury with a cheaper helmet

  • @icelandicwhitewater
    @icelandicwhitewater 2 роки тому +1

    Rockers are great. Too bad they changed the design and now it doesn’t fit my head. Had the 1st gen for years and absolutely loved it. Still got a Strutter and a Holy Diver 🙏

  • @CryptoSurfer
    @CryptoSurfer 2 роки тому +1

    Half cut, ear pads removed, blue, yeah baby

  • @romerobinson8279
    @romerobinson8279 2 роки тому +1

    I have a sweet full face and I like it a lot. My wrsi is more comfortable though and my favorite. It’s taken a major amount of abuse and my skull has held up 😂

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      That’s awesome and I like the Wrsi I just wish they would look at some different foam in there

  • @eppicuro
    @eppicuro 2 роки тому +1

    I do not use Sweet Protection helmets because my head mesures 63 cm and they do not have the size for me. They made helmets to people with heads until 61 cm and that is too small to me. They need update their sizes, evolution is real 😃

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Oh totally and this was not planned i was there paddling the river and had a chance to jump in one of these so just made due with what I had
      And for sure going to try to officially get back in one with a wing paddle and everything

  • @coldwateronly
    @coldwateronly 2 роки тому +1

    Half cut, full face and the strutter. Just depends how steep and how warm 😆

  • @SpecialBeaterService
    @SpecialBeaterService 2 роки тому +2

    Love to get one but my head’s the size of a small planet and even the L/XL is too small. 👽

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +3

      That seems to be a issue for alot of people thanks for the feedback maybe sweet should look at a XXL only helmet?

    • @paulgriffiths531
      @paulgriffiths531 2 роки тому +2

      @@WadeHarrison I agree, I definitely have a small head , for most other helmets (eg peak for polo and wrsi for WW) I am in the S/M category. I tried the rocker M/L and assumed it would be too big and I could not get on at all - L/XL was perfect. Rockers are not for people with larger (or even fairly large) heads. So anyone thinking of buying a rocker - "try before you buy".

    • @SpecialBeaterService
      @SpecialBeaterService 2 роки тому

      They do a xxl for skiing but I guess the paddling community is smaller so the demand isn’t there.

  • @frogyman1023
    @frogyman1023 2 роки тому +1

    Noic

  • @JamTagg
    @JamTagg 2 роки тому +1

    Have it (3 years), love it, will probably never buy anything else other than replacing it with the same model. Smack my head on rocks all the time and I've not (as of yet) ever had a concussion. One complaint, and maybe they've fixed this in more recent years, is that the paint started peeling off the visor from day one, and my gopro shoe popped right off the first day on the river. Paint below it came right off the helmet. That said, I've invested a lot in my brain so I'll gladly give up some paint in exchange for a well designed helmet that protects my melon!
    @wade I love your point about the visor and shedding water when diving through holes and waves. I removed my visor because I lost a screw, but I'll definitely be re-mounting it and trying that technique! 👍

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Yes I forgot about the paint on yours you were talking about.
      I should have mentioned that. maybe there was a batch of improperly applied paint that caused that? I have always got the gloss white so never been a issue.
      And agree there’s a lot of inventory in that head so if this is the best most shock absorbing kayak helmets out there that’s what I’m going with!
      Thanks for the feedback Jamie…

  • @ziyhe1751
    @ziyhe1751 9 місяців тому +1

    because its too small for my big head, god damn

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah they really should look into a XL

  • @wolfriveroutdoors
    @wolfriveroutdoors 2 роки тому +1

    Perfect timing on this video, Wade! I’m in the market for a new helmet and am a big Sweet Protection fan. Currently using a Strutter but really like the Rocker setup. Really enjoyed the review and details! 🫵🤘🛶

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому

      Glad I could help buddy

    • @wolfriveroutdoors
      @wolfriveroutdoors 2 роки тому +1

      @@WadeHarrison - would love to see a video on recommendations/review of breakdown paddles. Best options for a backup paddle, kayak camping, etc.

    • @WadeHarrison
      @WadeHarrison  2 роки тому +1

      @@wolfriveroutdoors yeah I have a 4 piece break down I use but the Werner 4 piece is the best I know a guy that uses one for everything I will reach out to him