For the people who say the horse was just “excited”, no, an excited anxious horse is trying to get in the arena and go! This horse was doing the opposite by trying to get out of the arena, the horse is clearly saying NO
@Sally beavers Horses should not reach like that for over 2 minutes. That horse was CLEARLY saying a loud bold no. Your horse is much important than a $50 entry fee. If my boy who does love barrels and occasionally has the "ICK A ALLEY" moment did that, I'd get off and walk him through the gate hop on do a few small walk/trot circles and walk out. That horse was very clearly burnt out. Even after being "Cowboy" ed in, he still wanted OUT. That body language was not excited. It is true some horses have Alley issues, and love to race. This horse is not one of them, at least not that day.
agreed my horse gets so exited when the gate opens and its her turn in the coral for the barrel pattern. this horse is just saying no and he does not want to participate. honestly I give off the same vibes on Mondays so were good.
There is a HUGE difference between a hot horse ready to go and a horse that does not want to go. Should have been scaratched wayy before she got into the arena.
Jenna Fuller I feel like trying to force the horse to go into the arena was putting everyone’s safety at risk they should’ve let the horse not go in to the arena, it would have been a safer option for the horses and riders.
sarah fisher the horse can see the barrels though and horses know patterns. He wanted to go Edit; this was a year ago and I now have more horse experience. I’m 100% wrong with what I said. That’s horse shouldn’t be at that show and most definitely at least needs a break.
Fallon Taylor said something once I loved - when critiquing, give two compliments first and then critique on what to do better. This is our younger generation learning to ride and love horses - we all had to learn and do things incorrectly from time to time. Support these young ladies instead of leaving nasty, mean comments.
Great reference! E for Effort and she has a good seat, but that horse needed to see a vet-He was hurting, and probably associating the ring with more pain.
Exactly -- but teach empathy and humane treatment as the first priority, not abuse, with winning being the only goal. There are other things to consider that are much more important. That horse hates what's being asked and should not ever be asked to run barrels again.
I bet if Fallon saw how the second girl was ripping at the poor horse's mouth she would have something different to say to her. If I was there I would have pulled her off her horse.🤬😠😡 I showed and sported my horses for 30 years and normally they were calm and relaxed, once the stewards were concerned that my QH mare looked like she was asleep at the start of race, I just said wait to you say go, 😂. But if ever they showed any signs of distress I got off, unsaddled and they took the rest of the day off.
As a horse trainer and barrel racer of 20+ years that second horse is BURNED out!! He’s been hotdoged way to much. I’ve had a mare the same way. She was turned into a trail horse for 5 years then got back in to barrel racing and a total different horse. Give him a damn break!!!
YES exactly my point : not all of them and not any of the professional ones , you think the girls tha go to the nfr could make it through a season like that ? with their horse loosing most of their energy before they make a run ? watch the calgary stampede which is where I live , wathe NFR or the barrel futurities . yes many horses are hot but they have to stop them from running into the arean faster , thats why they are holding them back its not because they refuse so adamantly like that one . Guaranteed that horse is sore somewhere be it mouth, back or legs could be anything or has had some pretty awful experiencces , I grew up on a ranch and my father was a race horse trainer. Horses when they are happy and are all born to run they do it freely and because they want to please that horse is not happy and is trying to scream and shout it without knocking them the fuck out and she still doesnt have the presence of mind to just get off and quit because a 16 second run and her pride is more important to her
If my horse ever acted like that then #1 I would be disqualified for my horse being a danger to me and others and #2 I would take him back to the trailer let him drink some water and walk him around until he cooled off. That's not defiant behavior, that's scared behavior.
Carly🐴 i agree, but she should have been holding her saddle horn when turning them barrels. you have to do that to stay in the seat. she didn’t have that good of a seat while cantering either. but im glad she actually listened to her horse and didn’t force like the second girl.
Different horses need different pressure to do things, some horses need kicked more and others do not and I’m talking about the actual racing part not the second girl trying to get her horse to do something
Yea same with Hailey Kinsel she doeant do any syarfish kicking or whipping shes a real deal cow girl fallon taylor does it a small bit but that one girl OOF I'd I was her horse I would've thrown her ina freakin pond
That second horse and rider need a lot more work. The horse doesn't want to run, you can tell by the trying to get out of the arena, plus the rider is not with her horse. She's focused on winning and getting a good time
reganburgoine22 well then she pushes every one of her horses too hard he is acting like this because he is so worked up and overwhelmed he doesn’t know what to do with all of the energy that is building up inside him
@reganburgoine22 you need new friends. Lol that one riding that horse is clearly all about herself. Wanted to run and get an award,the hell with how the horse feels. The me me me generation.
reganburgoine22 looking at that video the horse clearly does not want to go in there. Now I wouldn’t blame the rider has she is quite young and wouldn’t realise what she is doing is wrong but I would blame the trainer whatever way she trained the rider to become like that
I am totally amazing at the lack of understanding what was really going on with that 2nd horse. That horse is probably a super sensitive/soft horse and has been rushed through things and forced without understanding or acceptance. A horse like that cannot be cowboyed and cannot be forced once their reactive side of the brain is in control. Obviously this rider has no clue on the type of horse she has NOR does she care AND probably says it’s crazy and stupid. Believe me this horse isn’t stupid. There is likely some sort of pain factor involved as well which adds to the horse’s anxiety. It is possible that this horse is not the right fit mentally or physically for this sport but since it’s being forced and if this continues this horse is going to possibly kill this rider because the rider has no clue what the horse is saying. Unfortunately you see this mentality in ALL disciplines and it makes me so sad for the horse because they don’t have a choice...
my mare is NOT a cowboy horse you have to be very understanding and calm with her she does get a lot of anxiety when she can’t see me or my family and her friends but as long as i’m very soft and loving on her she is so so calm
When I was in 4-H if a horse refused to enter the arena they allowed it 3 times to enter before it was immediately disqualified and we had the rider dismount and walk their horse into the barn and we had a rule against spurs and whips. And if you were caught doing something to your horse that was wrong, they'd kick you out of every event
what? i get if your whipping the horse to hard, but if you have teens using an ove rand over, it doesnt hurt the horse. and yeah, some spurs are bad and hurt, but if you get dull ones, it helps
I’m in 4-H and we was allowed to use Spurs but they mark that you have them and pay attention to how much you use them and how rough you are with them. They also didn’t allow whips. 4-H is strict but I definitely get a lot of their rules!
Hun, call it a day its not the NFR. And to the people saying that the spurs are the problem, most likely not for berrel racing they typically use bumper spurs its not like bull riding where it on a rowel. Go back and work PATIENTLY with the horse and with practice next time should be better.
@@snowisgae5173 how long have you been for? Because if your horse is trained properly like my mare is you would know enough to know that that horses are not terrified of silver or the least bit scared of it. You got your lines crossed lady.🐴
Elizabeth Snowcobbler spurs aren’t the problem it’s the horse being hot that’s all because I use spurs when I barrel race and my horse doesn’t act like that
Exactly. There is a huge difference between a barrel horse that's hot and excited to run. This one was scared and didn't want to go in because its rider just kicks and rips around
@Brooke Eckstein you can’t say “dressage riders” (I’m referring to actual classical dressage. I know there is a western dressage, but I know little about that as it is not the same thing as classical dressage). That would, or should, be a singular example because the entire point of classical dressage is to get the desired result from the horse with as little contact from the rider as possible. The entire point is have a horse and rider that are completely in tune, completely relaxed and balanced on the hind end. If you are spurring your horse to that extent, you are NOT riding dressage.
@Brooke Eckstein In all fairness, it sounds like you have very little exposure/experience with classical dressage. I would invite you to learn about it. I can understand why you might feel that way if that is all you have seen but I have a feeling you have only seen a small, non traditional subset of it in your area. Actual dressage is not like that at all
@Brooke Eckstein No, you aren’t listening. They don’t use heavy spur just because it is against the rules, they don’t do it because it would completely defeat the purpose of dressage. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m saying that true dressage would never support that, and any true trainer would be able to spot a horse a mile away that had been treated that way, just by the way the horse carried themselves. The horse would not be relaxed, moving through their back, on their haunches. They would never be light enough and showing a true partnership with their rider. They would simply be going incorrectly. There are several incorrect and cruel methods (google rollkur) that have been used but most are called to light very, very quickly for the exact reasons I just mentioned. The dressage community is very quick to shun abusive methods because, again, it is the exact opposite of the whole point. If you see a lot in your community, I imagine you have a bad local trainer(s) that haven’t had enough exposure to be called out. I’m sorry you have had that experience. Watch Charlotte Dujardin’s ride on Valegro at the London Olympics and watch her spurs. Even when she uses her leg, she is using the inside of the leg, the position of her calf to give him aids, even in the toughest of movements. If she uses her spur, it is only for him to feel the metal, never to be actually jabbed, even a little bit.
It's so so sad to see so much suffering. Poor horse, I wish I could grab it and take it out of that video, put it into a pasture with some buddies and leave it alone. I have never seen a horse say NO so loud and clear !
It always the owners fault. It is never the horses fault and if it was a owner before her, the owner now should have worked that out before entering him competitions.
Right but a horse that severely rejects the situation that way is either sore, in pain somewhere or something else , a horse that loves their job isnt fighting it that bad. Even the girls at the NFR who run their horses up to 4 times a week for 50 weeks dont have that issue, she needs to take a look at herself and the horse.
Right a horse that severely rejects the situation that way is either sore, in pain somewhere or something else , a horse that loves their job isnt fighting it that bad. Even the girls at the NFR who run their horses up to 4 times a week for 50 weeks dont have that issue, she needs to take a look at herself and the horse.
Wow...the horse doesn't want to go into the arena for a reason. Most of alley problems are bc the horse is whipped, spurred, or kicked in the arena and is now afraid. So tipping on his face to get him to go in is not only dangerous but making it worse.
And what bothers me is she probably went to the trailer and beat her horse for not listening to her when she’s not listening to it. THIS is the problem with people, the horse is over this sport, he doesn’t enjoy it, and instead of retiring him or doing something that he enjoys, she pushes and pushes until the horse can’t take it anymore. People need to learn when enough is enough and take the horse into consideration!!!
Ally S with THIS sport? You mean every sport right? It’s not only barrel racing where some people beat their horse, it’s jumping dressage, and everything else. God... stop blaming just one sport.
@@thatoneequestrian1998 this video is barrel racing. The discussion is about barrel horses. We all know all types of riders abuse horses. It's all over Utube
reganburgoine22 good for her, but by the looks of this video the horse is done. Maybe the horse is better now and enjoys his job. But at this point in time he didn’t. All I’m saying is people need to realize when enough is enough
The Arena manager should have scratched that girl and her horse,it was clearly a danger to her,other participants and their horses. That horse needs to be totally retrained for her event and for being an arena safe mount.
It wasnt the horses fault it was the idiotic rider if she had given her horse some breaks and just taken him on small rides outside of the arena tha5 horse wouldnt do that she worked him up that was her fault
The horse was smart. It didn’t want to go in because it thought... no it KNEW it was going to be kicked in the ribs with spurs and have its mouth ripped out. Sad. Open your eyes.
It is not the horses fault. It knows it is going to be kicked and his mouth is going to yanked all around. When the girl slowed down the first horse look at its mouth you can see it is in pain. It is never really the horses fault for not wanting to do something it doesn’t.
Sad this is the only video Raleigh decided to watch of barrel racing, these are the worst barrel racers I’ve ever seen smh. This is why people think we’re abusive.
It is abusive to enforce them to take such narrow turns around the barrel which is what barrel racing is all about. Their legs etc can easily get damaged when they slip and almost fall, it’s gross to look at
There are many many different things to consider when things like this come. I've been barrel racing all my life and my barrel horse I raised and trained loved to run, never argued, ears perked and ran her hardest. She then suffered from an injury and for months after that and still a little now when she gets too nervous she doesn't want to go in. The best things to do for her is just let her sit there and calm down before asking her to go in again. Another thing wrong with this video is that if the horse didnt want to go in from nerves, it definitely didnt need all of those people handling it. I've read a lot of comments that are against the whole 'western riding ' because they constantly watch videos like this, but I have found that the best way to make a difference is not to type up negative comments but to teach when you get the chance. Inexperienced riders and irresponsible riders are who can mess up a horses mentality so the best way to fix the issues in the Equine competitive world is to teach people how to properly care for their horse.
@reganburgoine22 I doubt that. That horse would not be that scared if it was it's first barrel race. She must be a terrible and abusive rider if she did barrel practices. Poor horse must be kicked and whipped. Horses don't act like that unless they have a bad experience
@reganburgoine22 no, horses are not supposed to rear up and spin, that means their mind is f**ked up. Because of kicking and whipping. No horse should do that. Horses can get exited, but scared? No, just stop. That's why I have a problem with some barrel racers.
reganburgoine22 even if this was the horses first rodeo, she must’ve done something to it in the arena during practice. this horse wouldn’t act like this for no reason.
My horses first barrel race was yesterday she's a hot blooded qh so she was a little hesitant going into the gate but fine when she got in. Nothing like what the 2nd video was though just had to give mine extra encouragement. We made 4th in poles😀
If I was the girl with the horse who didn't want to go in the arena I would tell the judges I'm sorry but if he dosnt want to do it then he will not I'm going to bring him back to his stall )like in Free rein raven went wild and Zoe said no I will not force him b And as they were heeding back raven git loose and went at the starting line wanting to do it so she went on him and rose the show only because he wanted her to ride him and do it . ❤️
That's what happens when you use force and brutality. Would you want to enter that ring when you know you're about to get flogged and kicked as hard as that little girl can even though you will still run as fast as you can go.. then have your face ripped at. Glad she eventually gave up. She needs to get back on the ground and listen too her horse
God I get tired of all these Rodeo haters comments go eat some kale and leave these good kids alone. There not out doing drugs and shooting up their towns. Their crime is riding hot thoroughbred horses.
travelling vet is not hating......just stating facts exactly as they are, and I'm not trying to start an argument here. and yes I heartily agree with you that the kids are not out doing drugs,etc. but a horse has feelings to
I am a new horse rider. I noticed the girl looks like a beginner too and reading these comments it seems the horse might be in pain. That makes me sad. As a beginner I always do what my instructor tells me and I question her sometimes, "But is the horse okay?". She looks at me like "Really, you're questioning me? who has been riding all my life". Most "horse people" in the comment section are always so insulting towards the riders. One thing I do know, she held on, I would have been thrown off at the first harsh movement. Hopefully her horse recovers from whatever it is that is bothering it and she learns to not force her horses in the future.
Your trainer sounds like another horse idiot no offense. Imo if your trainer is having you do something that you think is questionable you have all the reason to tell her no and if she doesnt respect that, find a different trainer.
Claudia Moran its a lack on leadership that is bothering the horse needs a job on a ranch for a month or more than teach the rider how to be a leader and the issue will be gone but in my mind I don’t think I have ever seen a horse that likes running barrels but they can learn to do it if they trust the leader
Claudia Moran if you are having to questions your trainer, is it cause you think it’s abuse or just checking? Also that girl is no beginner, she knew how to stay in and bring the horses head to her knee to try to make him stop😁
Josie Berg I just think the problem with the girl in the video is she didn’t give her horse a break she kept forcing it to go into the arena when it clearly was worked tf up
That horse was no beginner, that horse was as sour as sour comes. And this is speculation but some kids that are decent riders like rider #2 think they can train a horse and she may not have trained it, but whoever did train the poor horse did not know what they were doing and the horse had so many bad experiences it was going to do anything it had to not to run those barrels. It saddens me to have seen several adults instead of telling her what the horse really needed, they tried to drag it into the arena too. Everyone concerned was lucky .There could have been several severely injured or killed from that poor horse having to get dangerous to say NO I WONT GO IN THAT RING AND RUN THOSE BARRELS. If that horse would have landed on that arena panel and it fell into the waiting riders and their horses on the other side this video would have been a lot sadder.
On the secound horse, my horse kinda does that but my horse, she’s only exited and just wants to run. I see that the secound one doesn’t want to run. My horse she just loves to run the barrels but hates the gate. But my grandma says before I get into the gate, just look at her (my grandma) then walk in, it helps bc I’m not getting exited either. Well if you read this, have a awesome day 😊
The horse is “hot” they get so amped up it’s gate sour she needs to practice going in and out without it having to run! It knows that the gate means it works and depending on how she rides it could ruin the horse meaning it’ll be nervous to go through the gate
The horse didn't want to go in because they knew that it was going to get kicked with spurs and have his mouth ripped apart. Horse can quickly learn when they enter that arena, they are going to run around 3 barrels as fast as they can and be kicked and whipped at every stride. Also, *don't give novice riders spurs!!*
Lark LuvsHorses its not stereotypical at all really. It falls in line with a majority of the equestrian society. A majority of the riders out there dont know that their horse is in pain and just shrug it off by saying "oh my horse is being naughty.", "oh my horse gets super excited for a pole bending or barrel run." Or "oh my horse is just having an off day. He/she will do better tomorrow." This horse here clearly knows all to well what's about to happen and isnt being apprehensive. Its trying to tell the rider that hey your putting me through more pain and i dont like it. Please dont. Horses can learn to anticipate something easily. Not just in western but english to. And it starts with the misuse of yourself first then the use of artificial aids. I aint saying their bad but it all depends on the rider using the aid.
Lark LuvsHorses No I don't because I see it in nearly every barrel racing video. I am not saying that EVERY SINGLE barrel racer is abusing horses, but a lot of them are an example of bad horsmanship.
I can see where you are coming from but just because a person rides western doesn't mean that they barrel race or even like it. You took one western event and said that you hate western riding.
Now that's ignorance at its finest, I've been to 100s of rodeos and not once have I seen someone get off and beat a horse. Are there contestants that shouldn't own any animal in the Rodeo crowd,yes. Are there participants in the English side of equine sports YES. f someone got off their animal and started to BEAT their horse they would have so many real horsemen and women all over their shit,so knock off the Everyone in western boots is a bad guy bullshit.
Ok. Why the hell would you stay on that horse for that long. You guys are a danger to yourself and others. Either way, the horse obviously wants you off REALLY badly so get the hell of him, lead him to the trailer, give him some water and hay, and let him relax. Jesus
If my pony EVER acted like the second horse did I would get off of him immediately because I know how he acts when he’s stressed,I would walk him back to the trailer,get him some nice fresh icey cold water,talk to him,walk him around,then attempt to try and redo the run again :]
Something was wrong with the second horse. Some kind of pain on that horse. He/she was talking and telling them but they didnt want to listen. Poor horse.
All the people out there are dumb as fuck. The horse KNOWS he's going to be kicked and yanked being forced to run tight turns. Barrel racing is a sick "sport". The dumb girl knows only to kick yank hurt and abuse, no horsemanship, no knowledge no nothing. She just thinks about winning, and honestly, she was taught that way to "ride". The horse does not want to run, does not want to be ridden by that girl or anyone. God. People are so fucking stupid. Poor horse probably kept getting best up once the camera was off them, what we saw is nothing I can bet my house on that
Ariel Mizrachi I agree the girl is New, it shows and the people around her should have told her to get off and find out why her horse is reacting in this way. But to blame all barral racers is ignorant of you. It could be many reasons why like: the teeth may need a lookin, a rock in a shoe, a spur or sticker in the saddle blanket, or a hurt/injury to a leg or it's a horse in training. My husband worked for a man that had a horse that was used as a bronk owned by a man that was horrible( he lost everything thank god) this horse was dangerous but my husband loved her. It took him years but she was so amazing that now you could put littlepriches on her. But she acted like this in the beginning. Now like I said they should not have pushed it that long. You can't judge someone off a small video on UA-cam. Race horse's are abused as well but I don't accused all or dame the hole sport.
You're right I may be a beginner rider but I went to enough rodeos that I know that horse is either over barrel racing, in pain, or scared out of his kind.As I read through these comments I took into consideration that no one is either right or wrong but I could disagree with some of them.Putting them in a pasture and not bothering him at all is just going to create trust issues.I like to listen to my horse and try not to loose my mind because I'm so scared but I feel that rider should take into consideration that she needs to listen to her horse more than winning and hetting the fastest time.To me I feel barrel racing is for the fun of showing the bond between rider and horse.
I don't mean to be rude, but that is the exact opposite of what ya gotta do. She shouldn't even gone in at all.. Bruh, she should have just not done it at all, and LEFT
All you have to do is take a month off barrel racing and work your horse outside the arena and give the horse a break even just near the arena at first, then slowly start giving your horse a rest inside the arena. Then when you horse is comfortable with that, you start your horse over on the pattern and slow things way down on the pattern so the horse gets comfortable going to work again.
for the ones who say that barrel horses will act like this. NO! some may but they are going to hop/rear INTO the arena not out of it. this horse is clearly burned out. that poor horse just wanted to stay out of the arena, and they wouldn't let it. listen to your horse. they clearly were ignoring him.
Ya so just go it with no spurs to make her run and don’t have a bridle so she don’t know which way to go that’s totally smart 😒u have to have those things when u barrel race.
Ok everyone on here that commented needs to stop yes they need to learn how to ride and needs to learn not to be in the horses face and all I have two horses and I do contesting on them and i know how to treat them when they go in the gate and i had the same problem but we don't need to say they are bad at riding or they did horrible we give them nice tips and we don't be rude that's all not being mean
jenna schober I would take it to ground work and start over. Once comfortable I add the rider and yet again start over and to a lot of easy stuff and get them happy and As a team. As a rider you get tunnel vision and work on a goal vs breaking it down and training every part. I can say this and have made this mistake. I wish I could say that I won't do it again but I bet with some part of training I do. She did a great job of holding her cool even though it was very stressful. Breath... Start over you've got this.
jenna schober that girl can ride she sat it really good the horse just needs a job that demands willingness for a bit and all the problems will go away. I had a lady bring her barrel horse to me that was a little worse it would start full on bucking when she tried to run barrels. I gave it a job working cows and by the third day it was the most willing little horse you ever seen it didn’t know much but it was willing to learn after a month of ranch work and me running barrels on her when no one was around to see it mind you. her 6 year old was running barrels on her and still does 4 years later and loves her
if I was on that horse that wouldnt go in I would have gotten off right away and gone home and taught that horse to walk through a gate without having a melt down
whoever posted this in AUS usually rodeos are a small community please for the love of god and that poor horse and the girl who clearly doesnt know any better …..this is not ok , a horse that severely rejects the situation that way is either sore, in pain somewhere or something else , a horse that loves their job isnt fighting it that bad. Even the girls at the NFR who run their horses up to 4 times a week for 50 weeks dont have that issue, she needs to take a look at herself and the horse
Terrible display of really bad horsemanship. What have you done to this horse to make him hate and fear going into that pen? Is it the beatings to make him run as fast as he can! Is it the spurring? Is it the constant drilling? The horse is obviously burned out as a barrel horse. You can't fix his problem. He has been abused too much. Shame on you. Horses are not machines just to use, and,to be a good horseman you have to have a much better understanding of the nature of the horse,and have compassion in the way you approach his training. You have ruined your horse.
you clearly don't know horses. I don't see how she ruined her horse. Are you familiar with what we call hot horses? id say not, so before talking like that to a child educate yourself, oh and while youre at it do post a video of you riding a hot horse that has what we call adrenaline. From how you talk you seem ignorant, and no where in this video do I see abuse. what I see is an uneducated asshole who thinks they know a thing or two and doesn't know their ass from the mole hill next door.
Madison Fulton that horse wasnt just hot blooded there was something going on there where that horse was scared to go in. I had a 3 year old full bred qh and on her first barrel race she was fine going in with a little encouraging.
when you learn not all horses are the same youll be better off. they are like anyone else they all learn and act different. some horses are calm while others are asses. they have off days just like people, they have hyper days just like people. so in reality congrats to your horse doing well doesn't mean the next horse will. so that comment is unnecessary. that's like saying I took my kid to the grocery store and they did fantastic however the next time they through a tantrum.
Madison Fulton I know all horses are different but a hot blooded horse that was properly trained wouldn't do that, so either that horse shouldn't be there because he's not ready, or he's done barrel racing. If you teach a kid properly they won't throw a tantrum, if you beat the kid for messing up in the store then he's not going to want to go in the store anymore.
horses forever101 well kids will be kids. They throw tantrums that's a kid lol. Idk what kind of parenting you do to keep a child from being a child but it's probably not a very appropriate way. Kids are kids. You can stop it when it happens but you can't really prevent it. As for the horse they off days.. it happens. I don't always wake up and feel chipper but I have to carry on with my day and sometimes I have an attitude it's life. But it's 12 am here so good night
Clear to see that the horse was having issues but that girl still tried. To change the subject... I want one of those saddles. I can't find one with that type seat.
i see a LOT of UNTRAINED horses with NO RESPECT FOR THEIR RIDERS , very glad to see helmets . NOW TRAIN YOUR HORSES , THAT STARTS WITH GROUND WORK = CLINTON ANDERSON watch a LOT of his videos and you wont have such rank untrained animals
and who are you to judge him ? what is your claim to horse training fame ? youare 100% WRONG , he is onoeofthe best horseman onthe planet & its uneducated tree huggers like you who have spoiled rotten horses that say stupid shit like you have . i'd liketo see what you can do withyour horse with NO BRIDLE ???? i bet it runs from you , ALL HIS HORSES RUN TO HIM , THATS HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE .
he is an "ass" because of all the HORSE RETARDED PEOPLE HE HAS TO DEAL WITH EVERY DAY. he is a 100% EXPERT HORSEMAN, horses don't respond to people who abuse them, obviously as the film shows, now those are ALL HORSE ABUSERS. & REAL ASS'S .
MsNumber1rider ya people like you who think they know everything about training from watching a couple of videos. Im not against him though I think he should treat horses with a little more respect at times. But seeing what he does in his videos is so much different from doing it in real life.
Kelzley Woodley no she did not. Should have listened to her horse and not rip his mouth of with a big bit and jabbing him in the ribs with big spurs. If she had an actual trainer and not a horse abuser for a “trainer” then she would not suck as much as she did. The girl is not at fault, but the adults.
Karoline Arnii to sit on a horse that is acting that way she should be proud of her self. Yes the horse is telling her something. To me the horse looks arena sour. But even in junior barrels money can be massive. But congrats on sitting on that horse
Stop blaming the horse. If the horse is arena sour then the owners should do way less arena training. Horses don’t just act up. They are either allowed to act up or they are made to act up. This horse is forced into a situation that he absolutely do not want to be in. He could have flipped over and killed the girl. By the way she was riding him and the was he was rearing I believe he was close to had she not jumped of. Sometimes you need to push a horse to get over his fears or to tell him to listen to the rider, but this is just really unfair for the horse. You can tell he does not want to do the stupid barrels so why force him. It’s just stupid and unfair for the horse who does not know any better.
You dont listern do you. I said the horse is arena sour. In mo way am i blaming the horse. So ill put this in a way you can understand The horse is arena sour that is due to human error Is that better princess
Dont work with horses if all you do is abusing the shit out of it. The adults are encouraging this abusive behavior as well clearly not seeing that the horse HATES the girl and the sport.
I don't see any abuse. I see a hot horse, adrenaline rushed and not using the right side of the brain to think clearly. horses use one side of their brain at all times. when not thinking clearly theyre just like people the lash out and do things they normally wouldn't do. you wouldn't know that though because you don't know what youre talking about.
barrel racing chick I bet u can’t even ride a horse. That horse got nervous and the rider was nervous. The people are trying to help her with her horse
Annaleise Millar bet? honey ive been riding since i was 2. yes they were trying to help here but horses shouldn’t get that anxious at the gate! if you knew anything about how horses act you would know they don’t get anxious like that for no reason.
Annaleise Millar you don’t judge a book by its cover. do you not see in my profile picture that im riding a HORSE?! so you shouldn’t be talking about me judging a book by its cover when you clearly did the same thing.
I think a total strip down of the second horses tack is the option id go with for that horse and then id consider retiring the horse forever and try jumping or something else.
Okay, but that girl is between the age of 11 and 14. We not gone talk about how she sat in that fucking saddle and sat through it ALL! Yeah, the horse is throwing signs. We can all CLEARLY see that. Let's talk about her not freaking out and sticking on there though
Excuses excuses excuses!! He hates barrel racing, period. He nearly climbed the fence to get out of there. Seeing how stressed he is, me may very well have ulcers, but ulcers alone doesn't cause this
at one barrel racing event, we found out another racer, was beating her horse before their turn at barrels. How we found out, her horse jumped the stalls half door trying to get away from her. He broke 3 legs and had to be put down. walk those barrels as much if not more than you run them, don't just do barrels, sometimes just ride, or do arena work, with no barrels.
That poor horse probably doesn’t want to go in because he knows that at the end he is going to get kicked and whipped and slapped across the head for him to run as fast as he can go
For the people who say the horse was just “excited”, no, an excited anxious horse is trying to get in the arena and go! This horse was doing the opposite by trying to get out of the arena, the horse is clearly saying NO
I agree! My horse may get excited, but this horse clearly didn’t want to get in that arena
@Sally beavers I do to! And he will “resist” a little, but not rear constantly and refuse to go into the arena!
@Sally beavers Horses should not reach like that for over 2 minutes. That horse was CLEARLY saying a loud bold no. Your horse is much important than a $50 entry fee. If my boy who does love barrels and occasionally has the "ICK A ALLEY" moment did that, I'd get off and walk him through the gate hop on do a few small walk/trot circles and walk out.
That horse was very clearly burnt out. Even after being "Cowboy" ed in, he still wanted OUT. That body language was not excited. It is true some horses have Alley issues, and love to race. This horse is not one of them, at least not that day.
agreed my horse gets so exited when the gate opens and its her turn in the coral for the barrel pattern. this horse is just saying no and he does not want to participate. honestly I give off the same vibes on Mondays so were good.
I just hate how some peeps push for there horse to do something they don’t wanna do
There is a HUGE difference between a hot horse ready to go and a horse that does not want to go. Should have been scaratched wayy before she got into the arena.
I agree
They usually just let them get their horse into the arena so the horse has a chance to not make it a habit then scratch them when they get in
The horse needed to know that the gate doesn’t mean run all the time it’s gate sour
Jenna Fuller I feel like trying to force the horse to go into the arena was putting everyone’s safety at risk they should’ve let the horse not go in to the arena, it would have been a safer option for the horses and riders.
sarah fisher the horse can see the barrels though and horses know patterns. He wanted to go
Edit; this was a year ago and I now have more horse experience. I’m 100% wrong with what I said. That’s horse shouldn’t be at that show and most definitely at least needs a break.
Fallon Taylor said something once I loved - when critiquing, give two compliments first and then critique on what to do better. This is our younger generation learning to ride and love horses - we all had to learn and do things incorrectly from time to time. Support these young ladies instead of leaving nasty, mean comments.
Yay a flomie!
Great reference!
E for Effort and she has a good seat, but that horse needed to see a vet-He was hurting, and probably associating the ring with more pain.
Exactly -- but teach empathy and humane treatment as the first priority, not abuse, with winning being the only goal. There are other things to consider that are much more important. That horse hates what's being asked and should not ever be asked to run barrels again.
@@Horselings Absolutely agree, however - some people just may not know and so it's important to be empathetic all around.
I bet if Fallon saw how the second girl was ripping at the poor horse's mouth she would have something different to say to her. If I was there I would have pulled her off her horse.🤬😠😡
I showed and sported my horses for 30 years and normally they were calm and relaxed, once the stewards were concerned that my QH mare looked like she was asleep at the start of race, I just said wait to you say go, 😂. But if ever they showed any signs of distress I got off, unsaddled and they took the rest of the day off.
As a horse trainer and barrel racer of 20+ years that second horse is BURNED out!! He’s been hotdoged way to much. I’ve had a mare the same way. She was turned into a trail horse for 5 years then got back in to barrel racing and a total different horse. Give him a damn break!!!
YES exactly my point : not all of them and not any of the professional ones , you think the girls tha go to the nfr could make it through a season like that ? with their horse loosing most of their energy before they make a run ? watch the calgary stampede which is where I live , wathe NFR or the barrel futurities . yes many horses are hot but they have to stop them from running into the arean faster , thats why they are holding them back its not because they refuse so adamantly like that one . Guaranteed that horse is sore somewhere be it mouth, back or legs could be anything or has had some pretty awful experiencces , I grew up on a ranch and my father was a race horse trainer. Horses when they are happy and are all born to run they do it freely and because they want to please that horse is not happy and is trying to scream and shout it without knocking them the fuck out and she still doesnt have the presence of mind to just get off and quit because a 16 second run and her pride is more important to her
she kept bumping the horse with her spurs and the horse was getting pissed off
Thank you for telling me that. I bin wanting to be a barrel racer for a while. but I can't by a horse . Because I am young.
Yep that horse is done with that crap for sure. He needs a new job and a new rider.
I was thinking the same thing but lord they aren't exactly running smoking fast times.
If my horse ever acted like that then #1 I would be disqualified for my horse being a danger to me and others and #2 I would take him back to the trailer let him drink some water and walk him around until he cooled off. That's not defiant behavior, that's scared behavior.
Hes scared hes not a danger
Mya Ormonde I- bitch
Mya Ormonde bruh.
Nuh
Scared of being spured
The second horse is a perfect example of why if you have a barrel horse you need to have that horse do other types of competition as well.
The first girl was amazing. She barely kicked or pulled. And she did t whip! The second girl should have scratched. Poor horse
Carly🐴 i agree, but she should have been holding her saddle horn when turning them barrels. you have to do that to stay in the seat. she didn’t have that good of a seat while cantering either. but im glad she actually listened to her horse and didn’t force like the second girl.
Different horses need different pressure to do things, some horses need kicked more and others do not and I’m talking about the actual racing part not the second girl trying to get her horse to do something
Yea same with Hailey Kinsel she doeant do any syarfish kicking or whipping shes a real deal cow girl fallon taylor does it a small bit but that one girl OOF I'd I was her horse I would've thrown her ina freakin pond
Carly🐴 mind me asking what scratched means? Like actually scratched or is it a term for something
Carly I do but don’t agree the horse needs to learn how to go threw fences and grace scratched means to basically not go
The arena REALLY needed a water break, way to dusty for these horses
Agreed
Definitely
It’s called Australia mate
Kahlo Equine And?
@@kahloequine2557 texas is dry as shit and you never see dusty arenas there.
That second horse and rider need a lot more work. The horse doesn't want to run, you can tell by the trying to get out of the arena, plus the rider is not with her horse. She's focused on winning and getting a good time
reganburgoine22 well then she pushes every one of her horses too hard he is acting like this because he is so worked up and overwhelmed he doesn’t know what to do with all of the energy that is building up inside him
@reganburgoine22 you need new friends. Lol that one riding that horse is clearly all about herself. Wanted to run and get an award,the hell with how the horse feels. The me me me generation.
reganburgoine22 looking at that video the horse clearly does not want to go in there. Now I wouldn’t blame the rider has she is quite young and wouldn’t realise what she is doing is wrong but I would blame the trainer whatever way she trained the rider to become like that
The actual reason why he's refusing is because they get spurred, whipped, and kicked to do that so.
reganburgoine22 girl you need to relax.
I am totally amazing at the lack of understanding what was really going on with that 2nd horse.
That horse is probably a super sensitive/soft horse and has been rushed through things and forced without understanding or acceptance. A horse like that cannot be cowboyed and cannot be forced once their reactive side of the brain is in control. Obviously this rider has no clue on the type of horse she has NOR does she care AND probably says it’s crazy and stupid. Believe me this horse isn’t stupid. There is likely some sort of pain factor involved as well which adds to the horse’s anxiety. It is possible that this horse is not the right fit mentally or physically for this sport but since it’s being forced and if this continues this horse is going to possibly kill this rider because the rider has no clue what the horse is saying. Unfortunately you see this mentality in ALL disciplines and it makes me so sad for the horse because they don’t have a choice...
my mare is NOT a cowboy horse you have to be very understanding and calm with her she does get a lot of anxiety when she can’t see me or my family and her friends but as long as i’m very soft and loving on her she is so so calm
When I was in 4-H if a horse refused to enter the arena they allowed it 3 times to enter before it was immediately disqualified and we had the rider dismount and walk their horse into the barn and we had a rule against spurs and whips. And if you were caught doing something to your horse that was wrong, they'd kick you out of every event
Saint Joe county 4-H fair had that rule, I'm going to Elkarts 4-H Saddle club, Idk what you went to but. Lol
what? i get if your whipping the horse to hard, but if you have teens using an ove rand over, it doesnt hurt the horse. and yeah, some spurs are bad and hurt, but if you get dull ones, it helps
Do you live I Texas
I’m in 4-H and we was allowed to use Spurs but they mark that you have them and pay attention to how much you use them and how rough you are with them. They also didn’t allow whips. 4-H is strict but I definitely get a lot of their rules!
Hun, call it a day its not the NFR. And to the people saying that the spurs are the problem, most likely not for berrel racing they typically use bumper spurs its not like bull riding where it on a rowel.
Go back and work PATIENTLY with the horse and with practice next time should be better.
Destiny Lyman actually the spurs are the problem. Get your horse stuff right. Horses are terrified of metal things. Like the bit and spurs
Elizabeth Snowcobbler Terrified? If they were then why would my horse and many others not run away or rear or show a sign they are terrified of a bit?
@@snowisgae5173 you literally ride with a bit shut up
@@snowisgae5173 how long have you been for? Because if your horse is trained properly like my mare is you would know enough to know that that horses are not terrified of silver or the least bit scared of it. You got your lines crossed lady.🐴
Elizabeth Snowcobbler spurs aren’t the problem it’s the horse being hot that’s all because I use spurs when I barrel race and my horse doesn’t act like that
as a 14 yr old barrel racer, this disgusts me to no end.
Same!
That horse is telling you something and It's ashame your just not listening ...its time to listen
SHADYHOOF fuck you
ITS TRUE
@@bobrey3360 LEARN THAT ITS TRUE
Exactly. There is a huge difference between a barrel horse that's hot and excited to run. This one was scared and didn't want to go in because its rider just kicks and rips around
SHADYHOOF thank you and for the ppl who don’t know anything and get false information how about you fuck off
Spurs aren’t the issue here ok everyone wears spurs practically it’s the rider not understanding that the horse is saying no
Many people use them inappropriately
If they all use spurs they need to take them off they are kicking way to much and hard to have spurs
@Brooke Eckstein you can’t say “dressage riders” (I’m referring to actual classical dressage. I know there is a western dressage, but I know little about that as it is not the same thing as classical dressage). That would, or should, be a singular example because the entire point of classical dressage is to get the desired result from the horse with as little contact from the rider as possible. The entire point is have a horse and rider that are completely in tune, completely relaxed and balanced on the hind end. If you are spurring your horse to that extent, you are NOT riding dressage.
@Brooke Eckstein In all fairness, it sounds like you have very little exposure/experience with classical dressage. I would invite you to learn about it. I can understand why you might feel that way if that is all you have seen but I have a feeling you have only seen a small, non traditional subset of it in your area. Actual dressage is not like that at all
@Brooke Eckstein No, you aren’t listening. They don’t use heavy spur just because it is against the rules, they don’t do it because it would completely defeat the purpose of dressage. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I’m saying that true dressage would never support that, and any true trainer would be able to spot a horse a mile away that had been treated that way, just by the way the horse carried themselves. The horse would not be relaxed, moving through their back, on their haunches. They would never be light enough and showing a true partnership with their rider. They would simply be going incorrectly. There are several incorrect and cruel methods (google rollkur) that have been used but most are called to light very, very quickly for the exact reasons I just mentioned. The dressage community is very quick to shun abusive methods because, again, it is the exact opposite of the whole point. If you see a lot in your community, I imagine you have a bad local trainer(s) that haven’t had enough exposure to be called out. I’m sorry you have had that experience. Watch Charlotte Dujardin’s ride on Valegro at the London Olympics and watch her spurs. Even when she uses her leg, she is using the inside of the leg, the position of her calf to give him aids, even in the toughest of movements. If she uses her spur, it is only for him to feel the metal, never to be actually jabbed, even a little bit.
I liked how the first rider wasn't really kicking! It's refreshing!
Lillian Equestrian mmmmm but she didn’t hold the horn 🙄 🤢
@@snowisgae5173 you don’t have to
It's so so sad to see so much suffering. Poor horse, I wish I could grab it and take it out of that video, put it into a pasture with some buddies and leave it alone. I have never seen a horse say NO so loud and clear !
algypsy17 leave it alone? Horses can not survive without water and food
@@Boarchy true lol I love barrel racing but that one girl forcing that horse was sad
Yes
She has burned that horse out way to much and is now using the Spurs as discipline. Ugh
I love the way that the guy in the blue shirt handled him. He was doing so good with him, trying to calm him down and put his head down.❤❤
GIVE HIM A FLIPING BREAK HES PROBABLY JUST TIRED AND STRESSED
Or a silly and stubborn pony? Could be either
Your horse is over gymkhanas, when they no longer want to go into the gate it’s a number one sign. #poorhorse
It always the owners fault. It is never the horses fault and if it was a owner before her, the owner now should have worked that out before entering him competitions.
Right but a horse that severely rejects the situation that way is either sore, in pain somewhere or something else , a horse that loves their job isnt fighting it that bad. Even the girls at the NFR who run their horses up to 4 times a week for 50 weeks dont have that issue, she needs to take a look at herself and the horse.
Right a horse that severely rejects the situation that way is either sore, in pain somewhere or something else , a horse that loves their job isnt fighting it that bad. Even the girls at the NFR who run their horses up to 4 times a week for 50 weeks dont have that issue, she needs to take a look at herself and the horse.
Wow...the horse doesn't want to go into the arena for a reason. Most of alley problems are bc the horse is whipped, spurred, or kicked in the arena and is now afraid. So tipping on his face to get him to go in is not only dangerous but making it worse.
Barrel horses do that because they are so hot
And what bothers me is she probably went to the trailer and beat her horse for not listening to her when she’s not listening to it. THIS is the problem with people, the horse is over this sport, he doesn’t enjoy it, and instead of retiring him or doing something that he enjoys, she pushes and pushes until the horse can’t take it anymore. People need to learn when enough is enough and take the horse into consideration!!!
Ally S with THIS sport? You mean every sport right? It’s not only barrel racing where some people beat their horse, it’s jumping dressage, and everything else. God... stop blaming just one sport.
Oops sorry read that wrong, again really sorry for the misunderstanding, have a good day
@@thatoneequestrian1998 this video is barrel racing. The discussion is about barrel horses. We all know all types of riders abuse horses. It's all over Utube
Julie Silvers I wrote a comment saying that I read the comment wrong and it was a misunderstanding. Have a good day
reganburgoine22 good for her, but by the looks of this video the horse is done. Maybe the horse is better now and enjoys his job. But at this point in time he didn’t. All I’m saying is people need to realize when enough is enough
The Arena manager should have scratched that girl and her horse,it was clearly a danger to her,other participants and their horses. That horse needs to be totally retrained for her event and for being an arena safe mount.
It wasnt the horses fault it was the idiotic rider if she had given her horse some breaks and just taken him on small rides outside of the arena tha5 horse wouldnt do that she worked him up that was her fault
The horse was smart. It didn’t want to go in because it thought... no it KNEW it was going to be kicked in the ribs with spurs and have its mouth ripped out. Sad. Open your eyes.
It is not the horses fault. It knows it is going to be kicked and his mouth is going to yanked all around. When the girl slowed down the first horse look at its mouth you can see it is in pain. It is never really the horses fault for not wanting to do something it doesn’t.
Ricky Leliefeld the horse doesn’t need to be retrained. It’s the rider who does. She kept pushing him to do something he didn’t want to
The guy running😂😂
Sad this is the only video Raleigh decided to watch of barrel racing, these are the worst barrel racers I’ve ever seen smh. This is why people think we’re abusive.
2 second girl was bad the first one was amazing
It is abusive to enforce them to take such narrow turns around the barrel which is what barrel racing is all about. Their legs etc can easily get damaged when they slip and almost fall, it’s gross to look at
Wow maybe if they stop making the horse run every time it gets in the arena. That horse is so ring sour, its a real shame.
Oml Raleigh reaction to this video
Crazy BarrelGrl omg yass
Crazy BarrelGrl what video
Yesssss email it to her
cassy x jean
I AGREE
I LUV Raleigh
There are many many different things to consider when things like this come. I've been barrel racing all my life and my barrel horse I raised and trained loved to run, never argued, ears perked and ran her hardest. She then suffered from an injury and for months after that and still a little now when she gets too nervous she doesn't want to go in. The best things to do for her is just let her sit there and calm down before asking her to go in again. Another thing wrong with this video is that if the horse didnt want to go in from nerves, it definitely didnt need all of those people handling it. I've read a lot of comments that are against the whole 'western riding ' because they constantly watch videos like this, but I have found that the best way to make a difference is not to type up negative comments but to teach when you get the chance. Inexperienced riders and irresponsible riders are who can mess up a horses mentality so the best way to fix the issues in the Equine competitive world is to teach people how to properly care for their horse.
Something bad obviously has happened to this horse such as bad arena experiences
@reganburgoine22 how do you know it's it's first rodeo? It's scared.
@reganburgoine22 I doubt that. That horse would not be that scared if it was it's first barrel race. She must be a terrible and abusive rider if she did barrel practices. Poor horse must be kicked and whipped. Horses don't act like that unless they have a bad experience
@reganburgoine22 no, horses are not supposed to rear up and spin, that means their mind is f**ked up. Because of kicking and whipping. No horse should do that. Horses can get exited, but scared? No, just stop. That's why I have a problem with some barrel racers.
reganburgoine22 even if this was the horses first rodeo, she must’ve done something to it in the arena during practice. this horse wouldn’t act like this for no reason.
Relaigh NEEDS to react to this!!
raliegh needs to stop abusing her horse
@@monikan.2687 yes! She also abuses her horse. She feeds him 2-3 times a WEEK
How do you know? x
@@Lilothederp6that is perfectly normal when a horse is on full grazing pasture plus hay.
Makes me wonder what methods of training where used for this horse to be so freaked out
The rearing bay is a good example of a horse that's hurting somewhere. Soured horses are usually hurting horses.
God this video was awful to watch.
akamiarose fuck u
I'm eleven an I barrel race, these girls can probably do better
MγsTIc DEMON yeah
Aubrey Is Bae she wasnt talking about the other riders just that 2nd rider
@@lexismith9791 same but I'm 12
would be disqualified after half of that much time where I ride
My horses first barrel race was yesterday she's a hot blooded qh so she was a little hesitant going into the gate but fine when she got in. Nothing like what the 2nd video was though just had to give mine extra encouragement. We made 4th in poles😀
I didn’t even want to finish, that horse was in so much pain!
If I was the girl with the horse who didn't want to go in the arena I would tell the judges I'm sorry but if he dosnt want to do it then he will not I'm going to bring him back to his stall )like in Free rein raven went wild and Zoe said no I will not force him b
And as they were heeding back raven git loose and went at the starting line wanting to do it so she went on him and rose the show only because he wanted her to ride him and do it . ❤️
That's what happens when you use force and brutality. Would you want to enter that ring when you know you're about to get flogged and kicked as hard as that little girl can even though you will still run as fast as you can go.. then have your face ripped at. Glad she eventually gave up. She needs to get back on the ground and listen too her horse
Travelling VET mm
God I get tired of all these Rodeo haters comments go eat some kale and leave these good kids alone. There not out doing drugs and shooting up their towns. Their crime is riding hot thoroughbred horses.
Travelling VET I totally agree with you.
travelling vet is not hating......just stating facts exactly as they are, and I'm not trying to start an argument here. and yes I heartily agree with you that the kids are not out doing drugs,etc. but a horse has feelings to
redtractor lover I totally agree with you.
my horse
has a similar problem wont go i the gate but once we are we go or there is times where she just stands and wont move to i know the struggle
The horse isn’t excited it’s terrified...
Everyone in this video is so stupid. Poor horses. I would've done the same thing if I were that horse.
lora powers the horse was throwing a tantrum. Barrel horses act that way when near a gate opening bc they know that’s their job.
Emma Lucas the horse wasn’t throwing a tantrum. He was scared of getting kicked and spurred and getting his face ripped off. I know from experience!
I am a new horse rider. I noticed the girl looks like a beginner too and reading these comments it seems the horse might be in pain. That makes me sad. As a beginner I always do what my instructor tells me and I question her sometimes, "But is the horse okay?". She looks at me like "Really, you're questioning me? who has been riding all my life". Most "horse people" in the comment section are always so insulting towards the riders. One thing I do know, she held on, I would have been thrown off at the first harsh movement. Hopefully her horse recovers from whatever it is that is bothering it and she learns to not force her horses in the future.
Your trainer sounds like another horse idiot no offense. Imo if your trainer is having you do something that you think is questionable you have all the reason to tell her no and if she doesnt respect that, find a different trainer.
Claudia Moran its a lack on leadership that is bothering the horse needs a job on a ranch for a month or more than teach the rider how to be a leader and the issue will be gone but in my mind I don’t think I have ever seen a horse that likes running barrels but they can learn to do it if they trust the leader
Claudia Moran if you are having to questions your trainer, is it cause you think it’s abuse or just checking? Also that girl is no beginner, she knew how to stay in and bring the horses head to her knee to try to make him stop😁
Josie Berg I just think the problem with the girl in the video is she didn’t give her horse a break she kept forcing it to go into the arena when it clearly was worked tf up
That horse was no beginner, that horse was as sour as sour comes. And this is speculation but some kids that are decent riders like rider #2 think they can train a horse and she may not have trained it, but whoever did train the poor horse did not know what they were doing and the horse had so many bad experiences it was going to do anything it had to not to run those barrels. It saddens me to have seen several adults instead of telling her what the horse really needed, they tried to drag it into the arena too. Everyone concerned was lucky .There could have been several severely injured or killed from that poor horse having to get dangerous to say NO I WONT GO IN THAT RING AND RUN THOSE BARRELS. If that horse would have landed on that arena panel and it fell into the waiting riders and their horses on the other side this video would have been a lot sadder.
On the secound horse, my horse kinda does that but my horse, she’s only exited and just wants to run. I see that the secound one doesn’t want to run. My horse she just loves to run the barrels but hates the gate. But my grandma says before I get into the gate, just look at her (my grandma) then walk in, it helps bc I’m not getting exited either. Well if you read this, have a awesome day 😊
Im pretty sure the second horse is sour on barrels. A ready horse doesnt refuse the arena. A sour horse does
Is it a beginner barrel racing
R bar 3 Rob3rtson ya so theyre all getting prepared for an actual ride
Your horse is so scared. Litteraly petrified.
That horse was not scared at all, it was a refusal. He is burned out and done aka does not want to do the job. Time to find a different job for him.
That horse wasnt scared, it was just a refusal, or a stubborn horse.
That horse was going nuts bc it's a Thorobread and they r like that sometimes. I have one that does that too
Those are some beautiful horses my profile is actually a picture of my horse named pal he's a beautiful bud
Wow! Good idea to keep running your poor horse who clearly doesn't want to
Agreed that horse is gonna hurt her
Kayla Hedges no the horse won’t. She will. It’s never the horses fault
No you make the horse do what it is supposed to do if not it is going to think it is the boss and do whatever it want.i dis agree
The horse is “hot” they get so amped up it’s gate sour she needs to practice going in and out without it having to run! It knows that the gate means it works and depending on how she rides it could ruin the horse meaning it’ll be nervous to go through the gate
@@ariawade5253 thanks for speakung the truth at least someone understands
The horse didn't want to go in because they knew that it was going to get kicked with spurs and have his mouth ripped apart. Horse can quickly learn when they enter that arena, they are going to run around 3 barrels as fast as they can and be kicked and whipped at every stride. Also, *don't give novice riders spurs!!*
Equine Studio Yeah, you're right, this is why I dislike western.
Equine studio
Lark LuvsHorses its not stereotypical at all really. It falls in line with a majority of the equestrian society. A majority of the riders out there dont know that their horse is in pain and just shrug it off by saying "oh my horse is being naughty.", "oh my horse gets super excited for a pole bending or barrel run." Or "oh my horse is just having an off day. He/she will do better tomorrow." This horse here clearly knows all to well what's about to happen and isnt being apprehensive. Its trying to tell the rider that hey your putting me through more pain and i dont like it. Please dont. Horses can learn to anticipate something easily. Not just in western but english to. And it starts with the misuse of yourself first then the use of artificial aids. I aint saying their bad but it all depends on the rider using the aid.
Lark LuvsHorses No I don't because I see it in nearly every barrel racing video. I am not saying that EVERY SINGLE barrel racer is abusing horses, but a lot of them are an example of bad horsmanship.
I can see where you are coming from but just because a person rides western doesn't mean that they barrel race or even like it. You took one western event and said that you hate western riding.
At least she didn’t let that horse win the argument
Funny. Aussie barrel racing, English saddles, country music
And I bet she walked off and beat her horse after him refusing
Now that's ignorance at its finest, I've been to 100s of rodeos and not once have I seen someone get off and beat a horse. Are there contestants that shouldn't own any animal in the Rodeo crowd,yes. Are there participants in the English side of equine sports YES. f someone got off their animal and started to BEAT their horse they would have so many real horsemen and women all over their shit,so knock off the Everyone in western boots is a bad guy bullshit.
Def not
DL Pollock agreed
Ricky Leliefeld did you know rodeos are full of abuse😀 feel free to reply and I can name several things.
Actually in the corner for almost the whole rest of the video I can see her petting her horse and reassuring him/her it’s ok
Ok. Why the hell would you stay on that horse for that long. You guys are a danger to yourself and others. Either way, the horse obviously wants you off REALLY badly so get the hell of him, lead him to the trailer, give him some water and hay, and let him relax. Jesus
If my pony EVER acted like the second horse did I would get off of him immediately because I know how he acts when he’s stressed,I would walk him back to the trailer,get him some nice fresh icey cold water,talk to him,walk him around,then attempt to try and redo the run again :]
I think they need to make the gateway a little bigger for the horses that refuse like that
Something was wrong with the second horse.
Some kind of pain on that horse. He/she was talking and telling them but they didnt want to listen. Poor horse.
what did you do to your horse ? a horse do not act like that for no reason
All the people out there are dumb as fuck. The horse KNOWS he's going to be kicked and yanked being forced to run tight turns. Barrel racing is a sick "sport". The dumb girl knows only to kick yank hurt and abuse, no horsemanship, no knowledge no nothing. She just thinks about winning, and honestly, she was taught that way to "ride". The horse does not want to run, does not want to be ridden by that girl or anyone. God. People are so fucking stupid. Poor horse probably kept getting best up once the camera was off them, what we saw is nothing I can bet my house on that
Ariel Mizrachi I agree the girl is New, it shows and the people around her should have told her to get off and find out why her horse is reacting in this way. But to blame all barral racers is ignorant of you. It could be many reasons why like: the teeth may need a lookin, a rock in a shoe, a spur or sticker in the saddle blanket, or a hurt/injury to a leg or it's a horse in training. My husband worked for a man that had a horse that was used as a bronk owned by a man that was horrible( he lost everything thank god) this horse was dangerous but my husband loved her. It took him years but she was so amazing that now you could put littlepriches on her. But she acted like this in the beginning. Now like I said they should not have pushed it that long. You can't judge someone off a small video on UA-cam. Race horse's are abused as well but I don't accused all or dame the hole sport.
You're right I may be a beginner rider but I went to enough rodeos that I know that horse is either over barrel racing, in pain, or scared out of his kind.As I read through these comments I took into consideration that no one is either right or wrong but I could disagree with some of them.Putting them in a pasture and not bothering him at all is just going to create trust issues.I like to listen to my horse and try not to loose my mind because I'm so scared but I feel that rider should take into consideration that she needs to listen to her horse more than winning and hetting the fastest time.To me I feel barrel racing is for the fun of showing the bond between rider and horse.
They do actually
Whoah that horse though!
When that horse was throwing a fit the made me think of my pony.he does the exact same thing
He wasn't throwing a fit, he was scared and exhausted and needed a break.
She should have gotten off and walked him in without force ppl need to learn
I don't mean to be rude, but that is the exact opposite of what ya gotta do. She shouldn't even gone in at all.. Bruh, she should have just not done it at all, and LEFT
Don’t force your horse my god. I hate when people do that
exaclty, you should encourage your horse, no forcing
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All you have to do is take a month off barrel racing and work your horse outside the arena and give the horse a break even just near the arena at first, then slowly start giving your horse a rest inside the arena. Then when you horse is comfortable with that, you start your horse over on the pattern and slow things way down on the pattern so the horse gets comfortable going to work again.
for the ones who say that barrel horses will act like this. NO! some may but they are going to hop/rear INTO the arena not out of it. this horse is clearly burned out. that poor horse just wanted to stay out of the arena, and they wouldn't let it. listen to your horse. they clearly were ignoring him.
i bet you if you took the spurs and bit away and you wouldnt kick him him like there was no tommorrow and whip him he wouldnt act like that
Yeah smart idea get in a barrel horse with our anything you just go jump on one with a halter and see what happens dumbass
That is not a bit it is a hackamore. The horse is arena sour and it needs a different training method for awhile to fix this issue.
Ya so just go it with no spurs to make her run and don’t have a bridle so she don’t know which way to go that’s totally smart 😒u have to have those things when u barrel race.
Ok everyone on here that commented needs to stop yes they need to learn how to ride and needs to learn not to be in the horses face and all I have two horses and I do contesting on them and i know how to treat them when they go in the gate and i had the same problem but we don't need to say they are bad at riding or they did horrible we give them nice tips and we don't be rude that's all not being mean
jenna schober sometimes horses just act up.
jenna schober I would take it to ground work and start over. Once comfortable I add the rider and yet again start over and to a lot of easy stuff and get them happy and As a team.
As a rider you get tunnel vision and work on a goal vs breaking it down and training every part. I can say this and have made this mistake. I wish I could say that I won't do it again but I bet with some part of training I do. She did a great job of holding her cool even though it was very stressful. Breath... Start over you've got this.
rhywnn I'm not even in the video I'm not even in that state
jenna schober that girl can ride she sat it really good the horse just needs a job that demands willingness for a bit and all the problems will go away. I had a lady bring her barrel horse to me that was a little worse it would start full on bucking when she tried to run barrels. I gave it a job working cows and by the third day it was the most willing little horse you ever seen it didn’t know much but it was willing to learn after a month of ranch work and me running barrels on her when no one was around to see it mind you. her 6 year old was running barrels on her and still does 4 years later and loves her
if I was on that horse that wouldnt go in I would have gotten off right away and gone home and taught that horse to walk through a gate without having a melt down
The horse isn’t excited it’s terrified....
whoever posted this in AUS usually rodeos are a small community please for the love of god and that poor horse and the girl who clearly doesnt know any better …..this is not ok , a horse that severely rejects the situation that way is either sore, in pain somewhere or something else , a horse that loves their job isnt fighting it that bad. Even the girls at the NFR who run their horses up to 4 times a week for 50 weeks dont have that issue, she needs to take a look at herself and the horse
Terrible display of really bad horsemanship. What have you done to this horse to make him hate and fear going into that pen? Is it the beatings to make him run as fast as he can! Is it the spurring? Is it the constant drilling? The horse is obviously burned out as a barrel horse. You can't fix his problem. He has been abused too much. Shame on you. Horses are not machines just to use, and,to be a good horseman you have to have a much better understanding of the nature of the horse,and have compassion in the way you approach his training. You have ruined your horse.
you clearly don't know horses. I don't see how she ruined her horse. Are you familiar with what we call hot horses? id say not, so before talking like that to a child educate yourself, oh and while youre at it do post a video of you riding a hot horse that has what we call adrenaline. From how you talk you seem ignorant, and no where in this video do I see abuse. what I see is an uneducated asshole who thinks they know a thing or two and doesn't know their ass from the mole hill next door.
Madison Fulton that horse wasnt just hot blooded there was something going on there where that horse was scared to go in. I had a 3 year old full bred qh and on her first barrel race she was fine going in with a little encouraging.
when you learn not all horses are the same youll be better off. they are like anyone else they all learn and act different. some horses are calm while others are asses. they have off days just like people, they have hyper days just like people. so in reality congrats to your horse doing well doesn't mean the next horse will. so that comment is unnecessary. that's like saying I took my kid to the grocery store and they did fantastic however the next time they through a tantrum.
Madison Fulton I know all horses are different but a hot blooded horse that was properly trained wouldn't do that, so either that horse shouldn't be there because he's not ready, or he's done barrel racing. If you teach a kid properly they won't throw a tantrum, if you beat the kid for messing up in the store then he's not going to want to go in the store anymore.
horses forever101 well kids will be kids. They throw tantrums that's a kid lol. Idk what kind of parenting you do to keep a child from being a child but it's probably not a very appropriate way. Kids are kids. You can stop it when it happens but you can't really prevent it. As for the horse they off days.. it happens. I don't always wake up and feel chipper but I have to carry on with my day and sometimes I have an attitude it's life. But it's 12 am here so good night
Clear to see that the horse was having issues but that girl still tried. To change the subject... I want one of those saddles. I can't find one with that type seat.
That girl on the little buckskin did good🥺 maybe she needed to check her before the turn but but it’s other than that she did good!
The problem why it was freaking out was because you were pulling on the rains to much
Lps Ginger and because it was scared to get spurs in it’s side, beat, pulled on, that horse was horrified and reins* I’m sorry I had to
i see a LOT of UNTRAINED horses with NO RESPECT FOR THEIR RIDERS , very glad to see helmets . NOW TRAIN YOUR HORSES , THAT STARTS WITH GROUND WORK = CLINTON ANDERSON watch a LOT of his videos and you wont have such rank untrained animals
and who are you to judge him ? what is your claim to horse training fame ? youare 100% WRONG , he is onoeofthe best horseman onthe planet & its uneducated tree huggers like you who have spoiled rotten horses that say stupid shit like you have . i'd liketo see what you can do withyour horse with NO BRIDLE ???? i bet it runs from you , ALL HIS HORSES RUN TO HIM , THATS HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE .
thats for sure , its NEVER the poor defenseless horse , it is ALWAYS the STUPID HUMANS .
he is an "ass" because of all the HORSE RETARDED PEOPLE HE HAS TO DEAL WITH EVERY DAY. he is a 100% EXPERT HORSEMAN, horses don't respond to people who abuse them, obviously as the film shows, now those are ALL HORSE ABUSERS. & REAL ASS'S .
MsNumber1rider ya people like you who think they know everything about training from watching a couple of videos. Im not against him though I think he should treat horses with a little more respect at times. But seeing what he does in his videos is so much different from doing it in real life.
He's an asshole that uses fear and pain to train his horses rather than trust and gentle force.
Sick, no horsmanship, just cruelty. Poor horse.
I think the horse is trying to say it’s in pain
I think that little girl did amazing handling that horse good in her for that!
Kelzley Woodley no she did not. Should have listened to her horse and not rip his mouth of with a big bit and jabbing him in the ribs with big spurs. If she had an actual trainer and not a horse abuser for a “trainer” then she would not suck as much as she did. The girl is not at fault, but the adults.
Karoline Arnii to sit on a horse that is acting that way she should be proud of her self. Yes the horse is telling her something. To me the horse looks arena sour. But even in junior barrels money can be massive. But congrats on sitting on that horse
Stop blaming the horse. If the horse is arena sour then the owners should do way less arena training. Horses don’t just act up. They are either allowed to act up or they are made to act up. This horse is forced into a situation that he absolutely do not want to be in. He could have flipped over and killed the girl. By the way she was riding him and the was he was rearing I believe he was close to had she not jumped of. Sometimes you need to push a horse to get over his fears or to tell him to listen to the rider, but this is just really unfair for the horse. You can tell he does not want to do the stupid barrels so why force him. It’s just stupid and unfair for the horse who does not know any better.
You dont listern do you. I said the horse is arena sour. In mo way am i blaming the horse.
So ill put this in a way you can understand
The horse is arena sour that is due to human error
Is that better princess
SHE WAS KICKING IT AND PULLING ON THE REINS SHE WAS ABUSING THE HORSE!!!
Dont work with horses if all you do is abusing the shit out of it. The adults are encouraging this abusive behavior as well clearly not seeing that the horse HATES the girl and the sport.
maybe its the damn bit in the horses mouth
I don't see any abuse. I see a hot horse, adrenaline rushed and not using the right side of the brain to think clearly. horses use one side of their brain at all times. when not thinking clearly theyre just like people the lash out and do things they normally wouldn't do. you wouldn't know that though because you don't know what youre talking about.
Karoline Arni
Please look into it
A perfect demonstration of what you DONT want in a horse( A crazy dangerous horse)
horse number two is an example of bad training😒
barrel racing chick I bet u can’t even ride a horse. That horse got nervous and the rider was nervous. The people are trying to help her with her horse
Annaleise Millar bet? honey ive been riding since i was 2. yes they were trying to help here but horses shouldn’t get that anxious at the gate! if you knew anything about how horses act you would know they don’t get anxious like that for no reason.
barrel racing chick I’ve been riding pro cutting horses and barrel horses since I was born. Never judge a book by its cover
Annaleise Millar you don’t judge a book by its cover. do you not see in my profile picture that im riding a HORSE?! so you shouldn’t be talking about me judging a book by its cover when you clearly did the same thing.
barrel racing chick that’s not bad training that horse knows it’s gonna be kick and stabbed by the spurs in the ribs over and over again
That girl is a cowboy! Way to stay on.
Its easy to tell when a bad horseman is on a horse.
3 years later I am wondering why the Aussie accent always takes the mic?
My horse use to act like that when you put the wrong bit in his mouth you learn real quick when they are just uncomfortable...
I liked the last rider even through her horse knocked down the two barrels she kept going and gave her horse a good ride
I know I don't know much about barrel racing but doesn't the first rider lean to far front going around the barrels...no hate just curious
Edna Mae Weaver yes just a little bit
I think it had a bad experience in an arena and didn’t want it to happen again.
You need to put a little bit of water so that the dust doesn’t get all up in the horse face
I think a total strip down of the second horses tack is the option id go with for that horse and then id consider retiring the horse forever and try jumping or something else.
Horses are truly never broke. Wild side at a moment's notice. You cant make them do something they dont want to.
Okay, but that girl is between the age of 11 and 14. We not gone talk about how she sat in that fucking saddle and sat through it ALL! Yeah, the horse is throwing signs. We can all CLEARLY see that. Let's talk about her not freaking out and sticking on there though
Just sad. Somebody taught that kid to beat the shit out of her horse and called it training.
The first one doesnt even have a breat collar on lmao
Summer Owens they don’t need one 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
What on earth has this horse been through to fear that arena so much. Sad
I feel bad for the girl who couldn’t get her horse to go
it was probably ulcers that are very common and cause this behavior, my barrel horse had the same thing and it can be cured with a certain feed
Excuses excuses excuses!! He hates barrel racing, period. He nearly climbed the fence to get out of there. Seeing how stressed he is, me may very well have ulcers, but ulcers alone doesn't cause this
at one barrel racing event, we found out another racer, was beating her horse before their turn at barrels. How we found out, her horse jumped the stalls half door trying to get away from her. He broke 3 legs and had to be put down. walk those barrels as much if not more than you run them, don't just do barrels, sometimes just ride, or do arena work, with no barrels.
That poor horse is so soured and refuses to run. He evidently HATES this event🥲😳
That poor horse probably doesn’t want to go in because he knows that at the end he is going to get kicked and whipped and slapped across the head for him to run as fast as he can go