this archetype was the reason I got into yugioh. not because i like the archetype, but because I was given Thor Lord of aesir by some guy at a waffle house. I thought the card was super valuable, and didn't wanna not do something with it, so I decided to learn how to play. I've been playing lightsworns for 4 years now, and I have crippling depression.
@@xianad2electricboogaloo399 is there any more context to this??? like why did he give it to you?? was he drunk or on drugs or something or just feeling generous?
When youtube got rid of the annotations feature, it removed the annotation, Rata put into this video at about 15:54. The following is that message (paraphrased, best to memory): After re-visiting this card, I realised that there is nothing stopping your opponent from using Odin's (the monster on this card's artwork) effect to make it immune from the effects of GOTTERDAMMERUNG. This, essentially, make this card useless. "Here you go dude; free 4K beater." "Wow. What's the catch?" "There's no catch. I just hate my life."
@@thebokchoy6854 Same here. I think it was because most people used it to spam crap all over the screen, which was kind of annoying. I mean, basic red or blue boxes with text are like Window's Movie Maker level of 2008 quality. That being said alot of times it was usually used to add something important, after the video was posted. Usually, somekind of small correction is added to correct an error, like a statistic being slightly off, was done with the annotations feature.
Isn't it a lingering effect though? You cannot be unaffected by lingering effects. It's like how a wild monster apears on venominaga still destroys her at the end phase
no my friend the true greatest sin is the fact that tho loki and odin are designed to work together yet the tuners that loki needs dont help him in the same way guldfaxe and vandis help thor and odin besides thor and odin are stronger than loki are easier to bring out and have better on field and graveyard effects
They should have been kaijus and interact with Odin, Tyr and Thor.( Like they Anti kaijus war machines). Ar least Konami has Nidhogg, Surtur, Hela, etc.,etc to redeem themselves
Where is my Hela the Nordic Goddess who let's me summon her to my opponent's side of the field and locks him in not use Nordics as material for Synchro and forget about all other summons?
I think the most indicative problem of the deck is Gleipnir, because it's the ultimate showing of how this Deck was just a nerfed 1-1 recreation of a shitty anime duel rather than an attempt to create something fun or balanced or based on Norse mythology. Why? Because do you know why it's called "The Fetters of Fenrir?" Because that's what Gleipnir was in mythology. When Fenrir showed up, the gods tried every single type of chain or bond that they could make, even chains with links the size of a man. But Fenrir, being Fenrir, could break everything in creation. So instead, they resolved to create a rope out of things that didn't exist in creation - the breath of a fish, the roots of a mountain, the sound of a cat's footfall, etc - and therefore, it would hold Fenrir until Ragnarok. So how would you interpret this myth into the real card game? You'd think it'd be a Fiendish Chain on steroids... but instead, it's a searcher. Why? Because Harald used it in the anime to add Fenrir to his hand. And why is it a Trap? Because it was a Riding Duel, meaning no spells. If not for that one scene with Harald, there would be no link between this card and the original myth, and it might as well be named Shapesnatch's Schlong for all it does to reflect mythology.
5 years later, and the newest Nordic supports give us: - A spell card that can SS any Nordic mons from the deck, then banish itself to search any Nordic mons. - A tuner that can SS any Nordic from hand upon summoning, recover a Nordic from the GY, and are not exclusive to any Aesir, just like Vanadis. - A monster that can search any Nordic Relic and SS itself. - A continuous trap that brings back any Aesir from the GY at the cost of tributing a Nordic, and negates the entire opponent's field if you have an Aesir. Searching? Checked Recovery? Checked Less exclusive Aesir and main deck focus? Checked Better Aesir effect? Well to some extent with the trap Y'know, I'm still convinced Konami takes your videos into consideration at some points.
@@wildflyandspeedio3033 They're good enough to be tested against meta decks unironically. And even though they don't stack up, they're now unarguably playing.
Late as shit (great reference to a great game, btw), but damn that auto-revival mechanic would've given weight to the idea of the nordics being immortal and revival and would've made them worth taking the risk on running.
@@animaginaryboy2741 lets be real it wouldn't made it any better (maybe slighter) but one its a ass to get one aseir out (well now there is a link) but you still have to remember they need to be destroyed by your oppenant
Two years later, and the realization came that Rata mercifully omitted to mention the fact that Mjollnir is one of those God-forsaken Trap cards that LITERALLY have no effect during the opponent's turn, just like Dark Scorpion Combination.
It's because of anime bullshit. They were played in a Riding Duel/Turbo Duel, which stops normal Spells from being used. So Mjolnir being a Trap in the anime was necessary, and for some reason they decided not to change it to a Spell.
So would using set rotation to give the nordic field spell to ones opponent and then popping it result in wiping their field or does the effect of the field spell just affect nordic/aesir monsters?
David Parisi That effect isn't that bad, considering that in a nordic deck you can't get anything back once its destroyed anyhow. Also odin is synchroed with 3 monsters unless you use tokens, so thats already 3 revives.
It's a Nordic card as much as the generic-effect Relics are, it just doesn't have a name-relation, only in artwork and basis. And it was used with the Alfar in the anime.
Gotterdammerung! Nordics seems like such a disjointed archetype. The 4 sub-archetypes are baffling. The monsters should have all just been called "Nordic" and suddenly any of their tuners would be like Vanadis. I think the only archetype that can pull off conditional card names and not be terrible is Fluffals because they have better synergy between their 3 archetypes.
Valkyrie's effect was so much better in the anime, you could activate its effect even if you controlled another card and instead of banishing the nordic cards you just send them to the graveyard
I find this interesting that no one in the comments has brought this up but in every modern Nordic build, you can usually see them packing 3 of Temple of the Kings because of how you can activate a Trap Card the turn it was set. So that turns the search trap into a medallion I guess you could say. Also while I do agree that Konami did not do Nordics enough justice, I still enjoy this archetype and will do so for a long time.
It's almost like his native tongue allows for subtle vowel manipulation lol (just realized this sounds like I'm trolling; I'm not, just thought it was ironic)
Also, one suggestion about this segment. It would be cool if you tried to make a deck of the shitty archtype you showed in the video and showcased a duel or two with them, just to see how the deck would go off.
I was thinking of doing Cloudians but I don't really consider them a terrible archetype. For the time they were released in, Cirrostratus, Acid Cloud and Atlus were decent cards, there's a Quasar variant that surprisingly works, Nimbusman OTK used to be very potent, they're just an overall... tolerable archetype.
RANK10YGO Hmm i see, i personally don't think they're that bad, just slow and outdated. Well then, i'd like to see maybe the gx roid cards? or the genex archetype, yeah, those would be interesting episodes.
Huh, I think some of these are like the proto Yang Zing (Specifically the Tuners that Summon from the deck/tokens for easy Synchros). Minus the floating of course.
RANK10YGO True, but you see a few shades here and there. While Gustos were the predecessors, some of these Nordics seemed to have established certain ideas, granted not executed well.
Welp. So sorry Rata, here comes all the comments about you quote unquote memeing Nordic Link support into existence. On a more serious note, it is genuinely interesting to see Konami give these guys another chance instead of yet another batch of nostalgia support for protagonists and/or main rivals.
The link helps the deck immensely. The problem is it depletes to many resources and at the end of the day your still playing nordics. The link and alviss were far better than what the nordics had before making a turn one aesir is incredibly better than what it did before. The problem with the deck is the deck it’s self two new cards can not fix a deck that just has no synergy or lack of monsters that actually give you some value
The problem is that it was to small if they kept going maybe giving them something to get your cards back an actual field spell and keep going in that direction of bringing your boss monsters out early they wouldn’t be good but they would at least be semi playable maybe even add new boss monsters that add good effects that are worth it maybe making the enemy banish some cards or adding a big monster that is unaffected by card effects permanently and has a load of attack points as a sort of win condition add a card that summons a Nordic monster from the extra deck but gets destroyed during the end phase or something
Damn dude you deserve wayyy more subs. One can actually tell that youput a lot of time and effort into your videos. Keep up the great work man, one day youll get your deserved hype.
+TheSchranksalat Thanks, I try. Also, the channel only started in October last year, so it needs so time to build up subs. Spread it around and there'll be views aplenty
Gungnir is very nice for disrupting cheap combos like Power of the Guardians, and also disrupting expensive tribute summons, without wasting a good counter spell card, and it is also a D.D. capsule. I play it with Nordic Beasts plus unicorn horns.
Gotterdammerung is actually kinda German. Although we write this as "Götterdämmerung" It means Twilight of the Gods or ragnarok in danish. Also you speak it ˌɡəːtəˈdɛmərʊŋ
@@heroeus8173 ehhh, not really, but kinda. German mythology does not really exist actually, since our country didn't exist long enough (at least not on its own). The reason many people associate it with norse mythology is a certain man with a weird moustache, who figured that militarizing german people would be easier if they considered themself some kind of repressed people who have a long history behind them. That's why the "Varus-Sage" was invented, which connected the roman warlord Varus, who was able to form an alliance with a germanic (not sure if that's the right word in english, but in german there's a difference between germans and germanics, germanics were basically vikings) tribe in order set a trap to a roman batallion that wanted to see him dead. Hitler and his followers reinterpreted this as the founding of german people, which it wasn't, just so that they could have the germans think of themself as a kind of "chosen" people. That's also the reason why Albert Speer, Hitlers architect, embedded a lot of norse mythology into his buildings (mainly reliefs at the entrances), so that this idea could be implemented in daily life.
@@SilverCyborgSliverNordic, I think. English speakers know Vikings as Nords (outside of the Bethesda games like Skyrim). I don't know how accurate that is to their culture, but it's kind of just what we've been taught here.
Imagine this for support: Treasure Room of the Divine Relics (Continuous Spell) You can activate Trap cards that specifically list "Nordic" and "Aesir" monsters from your hand. Once per turn, during your End Phase, you can add one "Divine Relic" card from your Deck to your hand, except "Treasure Room of the Divine Relics". Additionally, expand on the Nordic Champions idea, having more mythological Nordic Heroes that can replace the specifics of Nordic Tuners, or Special Summon themselves when there are Nordic Tuners to make getting the gods out easier. Maybe having GY effects that also protect the gods or give them other effects. I mean, yeah, they made support, but that was *lazy* support. That was a brute forced attempt to make the deck into something viable instead of taking what's already there and doing something with it, or expanding upon an idea that might be there, like turning Fenrir and Jormungdr into Kaiju.
*at min **7:21* What do you mean? Garmr Is pretty amazing! It also disrupts Gemini and decks that use counters and... what do you mean those stopped being played years ago? Oh well... Next Monster
And we're about the get legacy support for these guys in october, based on the description on ygorganization it will include a new lv10 synchro and a link monster that I quote "a new Link Monster makes it easier to assemble the Synchro Materials needed to Summon an “Aesir” monster" - sounds almost like a archetype exclusive needlefiber
they nurdered the nordic god monsters, as in the anime it was never stated they needed spcifically a nordic tuner of any kind, and also in the anime the revival effect WAS FREE. no banishing required, no nothing, they just automatecly brought themselves back. i mean theres a big plot point i remember from the anime where thor keeps getting blown up continually, then resurrecting and smacking yusei with hefty burn damage (hefty because they only play with 4000 lifepoints). if they had kept the nordic gods the same as they were represented in the anime completly, they would have actually been pretty good in my opinion, especially for destruction heavy decks like fire kings or scraps. while i'm not saying the nordic gods would be top tier or anything, they would definetly be far more of a force to be reckoned with, especially if you pair them with mask of restrict, mound of the bound creator, and imperial iron wall.
yeah honestly without the nerfs and a little more thought/more actually useful support the archtype could have been amazing but just goes to show that with konami your only going to get crushed dreams no matter what product of theres you buy
the confusing thing for me is that they were nerfed from the anime. In the anime the syncrho's didn't need their tuner monsters and Valkyrie didn't have that effect as Haldr used it's effect while having 2 synchro monsters plus a face-down on the field.
I remember I was playing against somebody with my anime/playground deck and was able to special summon Guldfaxe using its effect and my opponent was shocked at how specific it’s summoning requirement was and that I managed to use it
18:36 Has anyone notice how ODD Odin’s card art looks? Like, it doesn’t look like Odin’s eye, since it looks reptilian/demonic, and the hand doesn’t look familiar at all- was this card art meant for something else?
Mimir: They call me Mimir, the smartest man alive, and I have the answer to your every question. Me: Why aren't the Nordic cards any good? Mimir: ... Okay there are a few gaps in my knowledge.
Nordics (if you may be able to tell) are my deck. As in, for nearly 2 years I hunted down other Nordic players to defeat them and show my skill. They're, a very unique deck I think. I dropped Loki (HE ISN'T EVEN.AN AESIR KONAMI) and focused on the Beasts. Using some solid tech like Super Nimble Mega Hamster and BLS, Norfics can actually be pretty damn good. You have to run a lot of backrow, and Pot of D at 3. But once you geta real handle on it, they're a damn good deck. Ljosalfar is a great card that can let you hit level 8s pretty easy by the way. I find people focus too much on the Synchros. I always took the strategy that Odin and Thor aren't an absolute necessity to win because you can make level 7s and 8s pretty easy. I'm really passionate about this deck. It can be flexible, powerful and pretty consistant. My rose tinted glasses will forever remind me of the days when I'd drink mead, wear my "Drink mead and praise Odin" t-shirt and destroy all manner of decks on the old DN. Other people may not love Nordics, but for me they were my favourite deck in the game by a long shot.
Even in anime the Serpent of the World and Fenrir combo fails and Yusei uses both of them as material to D.D Spirit and a Speed Spell card, so yeah, even in anime where everything can happen, even there this combo fails, do you really think this thing can work?
My old way I used to win in one turn was to attack with Odin, activate megingjord, then use Honest to hit my opponent for 8000. It was great when I pulled it off. Rarely came up though
Freya, Lady of the Aesir 2 "Nordic" monsters, arrows pointing down left and down right You can only activate each of these effects once per turn. 1: Target one of your banished "Nordic" monsters, special summon it but shuffle it into the deck at the end phase of the turn it was special summoned. (Quick Effect) 2: Target one "Nordic" monster on the field, it's name becomes "Child of the Aesir" until it is removed from the field. 3: Shuffle 1 card from your hand into your deck to add 1 "Nordic" monster from your graveyard to your hand. Asgard, Realm of the Nordics Field Spell While this card is on the field: "Aesir" monsters you control cannot be targeted by card effects. Reduce the level of all "Alfar" monsters in your hand, field, and graveyard by one. "Nordic Beast" monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle. Once per turn you can discard one "Nordic Ascendant" monster from your hand to special summon another "Nordic" monster from your deck whose level is less than or equal to the discarded monster.
I disagree with having this deck in this series. While the majority of the archetype is worthless, Nordic did get a handful of YCS tops back in 2011 thanks to the goats and horse and the majority of that deck has never been hit. While it is certainly bad by today's standards, it is certainly better than anything else in the series and many decks not included.
Yeah, I realize that, and this video is frankly more of a product of my slight incompetence with early handling of the channel due to a lack of research, and if it wasn't for the fact that Nordics had far less tops than Worms, I'd have retroactively eliminated them from the series as well.
I used to run a Thorr synchro deck using horsy, black goat, and white goat, with support cards from elsewhere. Wasn't tier 1 obviously but was real fun.
My god! All the 5ds hate! Man that was my favorite yugioh... Also on tannjouster (I think that's his name) you can't XYZ with tokens. Or believe me Galaxy tomohawk would be OP lol
i mean its understandable alot of the decks/archtypes from 5ds were just terrible and outside of that the ones that werent due to all these new rules and effects the games cancer level went through the roof in a single era of the game at least with xyz pendulum and links they eased on the gas with synchros and other effects they just slammed on the gas strait slamming into the wall known as the meta completely obliterating it
@@dr.dylansgame5583 I'm still disappointed they didn't make "Earthbound Immortal" a proper archetype. Wouldn't it be cool to have black, symbol-bearing monsters that call for their "god", a huge, black silhouette with glowing symbols all over them. They could have given each Immortal a different support, like Nordics, but more coherent and with more generalized synergy, so that you can use "Ccu Cupankapu" (or something) cards partly with "Wresquicha Rasca"(probably wrong) cards as example.
Thor actually wrecks any of those obnoxious XYZs that save themselves or allied monsters from destruction. That's a nice Zenmaines you've got there, be a shame if its effect didn't work. Megingjord can be used for some insane burst damage. Odin hitting Stardust Dragon could result in over 5k damage. Gungnir is evasion, plain and simple. Dodge a Torrential Tribute, Mirror Force, or even Bottomless Trap Hole.
Auron3991 Thor then gets wrecked by Honor Ark, just like the rest of the Aesir Megingjord is deadweight outside that "specific situation" which you don't want for a competitive deck And Gungnir keeps your boss, who you just went -1 to summon, off the field for a whole turn Allowing your opponent a turn to setup more field presence to counter the boss when it returns Or straight up OTK you lmfao Nordics are trash, stop trying to put Ornaments on a landfill
Funny, since I managed to face some pretty decent decks with them (including a few serious tournament decks). Markedly, I ran a chaos variant, so I had some weird card choices, but they managed to work quite well. That's the thing about this game, most decks have a build that at least functions even if it isn't the best. Heck, I saw a Dark Simorgh lockdown deck that did fairly well against competitive E-Hero.
I'm really disappointed that they didn't have a better Nordic theme. They could have had more Nordic gods, added freaking VIKINGS (like Ragnar Lodbrok and/or non-historical Vikings) and Viking berserkers, and other mythological figures like Sigurd (a human warrior that was a dragon slayer), and Valkyries; including Brunhilde who fell in love with Sigurd. There also isn't a magic card named Valhalla; it would have been perfect for special summoning Vikings from the deck and or graveyard. There are so many real life Nordic sagas that speak of warriors and myths, and that is another reason there was a lot of wasted potential with the Nordic theme. I don't know why Koonami threw away so many opportunities with this theme. They did a good job with the Samurai theme I thought, so maybe they just didn't have as much passion for western mythology and historical warriors (Vikings) since they are Japanese. I also don't like the design of the three Nordic gods that they did add. An example of that is Odin; he is associated with two crows and yet they aren't in his card's design or in any Nordic cards for that matter. What Nordic cards do exist have crappy effects. Also, feel free to make corrections to my post. I haven't kept up with Yugioh in a while, so I'm not 100% sure if they added any of the characters to the Nordic deck that I mentioned but I doubt they have since it is a fairly old deck by now.
+ApolloX1 You know what. If I were designing Valkyrie of the nordic ascendants I would honestly change her name to Brunhilde of the Nordic Ascendants & include Zigfried Von Schroeder from the original Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters series in the background for an easter egg.
as much as i hate to say it konami does this alot and sadly that shit wont change its the same reason alot of older cards were bad they have there head up there ass half the time and the other half is usually barely passable i mean hell its the same reason most archtypes up until now only run half there cards at most and then just splash in other cards from different sets and why certain archtype cards get abused in other decks that nobody would have even thought of normally
It's such a shame the Aesir monsters were nerfed so hard In the anime they didnt need to banish tuners to be resurrected, they were resurrected without cost during every standby phase Their synchro summons/special summons (ie resurrecting themselves) could also not be negated and they could not be destroyed in the turn they were summoned by any card effect Also, their negate effects were quick effects, so yeah, not useful on your opponents turn but holy shit, 10x better than what Konami ended up printing Basically, they were also a massive pain in the ass to get rid of (they only had to be in the GY to resurrect, so Kaijus etc. would only be a temporary 1 turn fix as well) and could only be dealt with by enormous beaters or banish-based removal from a specific card type that each individual aesir was not immune to
And the one guy who got killed by mistletoe can be a followup play for after the Raganrok portion of the archetype kills the entire field. Example play: Make the link, spit out an Aesir. Get beaten. Summon Surtr, Doom of the Aesir. Reverse nuke/Trish the opponent's hand, field, GY, and cards from the top of their deck equal to the number of Nordic and Aesir monsters banished from your hand, Field, and GY for Surtr's effect. Then Surtr searches you Nordic cards from your deck equal to the number of Aesir monsters banished by Surtr's effect. Assuming only 1 search, you get Baldur, who would basically have to give you another copy for the Link, spit out another Aesir, and let you use banished Nordics to synchro out as many Aesirs as you can make with your banished Nordic monsters.
I would go with more monsters that help with swarming the field to make summoning the Aesir monster a lot easier, as well as being more versatile in helping with summoning The Aesirs regardless of build, also follow it up with having more synchro options, something the Aesirs seem to lack, by adding more synchro options, they would be opening up more plays for the Nordics/Aesir. for example, have a synchro monster that counts as 2 non-tuner materials to assist in the summon of Thor, Loki and/or Odin. as well as having effects that grant more protective abilities if they are used as synchro materials for either Loki, Thor and/or Odin Follow this up with a field card that gives the Nordics/Aesirs not only more protection, but also allows the controller to normal summon a second time in the process. A spell card that not only searches, but if you control an Aesir monster, you can place a tuner in the graveyard to allow the controller to banish the tuner of the respective Aesir to summon the Aesir again. Meanwhile there could be a trap that allows you to banish the required material from either the deck, field or graveyard to synchro summon an Aesir monster during your opponent's turn, but they must declare an attack, also the synchro summon cannot be negated, another trap card could return all banished Nordic tuner monsters to graveyard to allow for more re-usability of the Aesir monsters in the process, then they could follow it up with a counter trap card that would negate, the activation of a spell/trap/monster effect and destroy it, but you also need to control either an Aesir or Nordic monster to activate it. Overall there is potential, but Konami failed to give it the potential that it needed.
the fact that they gave a norse-mythology-themed archetype a support spell with a german name they just flat-out misspelled tells you everything you need to know about how much work they put into this lol
The deck is alot better than you give it credit for. It can easily make lvl 7, 8, 9 or 10 synchros and if played right can be very powerful. In all honesty all the deck needs is a draw card and another tuner for the beasts. And the nordic gods are not that hard to summon.
What do you mean by "if played right"? And powerful against what? Also, from what I can tell, they need way more than a draw card and another Beast Tuner if they ever hope to be able to mesh the three sub-archetypes together into something playable. A Beast version of Vanadis that doesn't require you to jump through a dozen hoops would be a start at least. Also, yes, the Aesir aren't too difficult, but as things stand, they're just not worth the trouble most of the time.
the issue I'm seeing with the Nordics is that they focused on flavour without any way of making it work for the game. For example, Valkirie is based on the valkyries, obviously, and her thing is whisking the souls of fallen warriors and bringing them to Valhala, as a valkyrie does. Tangrisnir and Tangnostr are Thor's goats, their thing in the mythology is that Thor kills them every night to eat for supper and then he lays out their pelts and bones overnight and they're alive again, this would have been more effective mechanically if they had an effect to come back from the graveyard on each of your standby phases. Garmr is based on Hela's dog, who guards the underworld, so him sending monsters back to the hand could be a reference to them being rejected from the underworld (idk, I'm stretching on this one) for a way more flavourful and actually useful way of doing Mimir, who's severed head rests in the fountain of wisdom and knows everything, would be for hm to let you look at your opponent's hand.
Same it's pretty crap because it's like if you don't do am xyz summon with 2 synchro summons and revive a lvl 7 monster from the graveyard it's a bad turn
I think so too, I used to play online from time to time and usually lost because my opponent summoned like 10 monsters with 3000 atk plus in one turn ouf of nowhere
Wouldn't mind some more DIVINE monsters/support. They don't have to be fantastic, but the attribute and type are sadly underused for how cool and mystic they could be.
Well yeah; but the only support for DIVINE monsters are Mound of the Bound Creator and True Name, both of which only search a DIVINE monster. It'd be far more cool if the Nordic Aesir monsters were such attributes and types, but it wouldn't make a difference if they were typed that way. However, if they were generic Synchro monsters and had their anime revival effects, maybe they'd be a whole lot better.
That'd get crazy dumb OP real quick. There's a lot of good synchros out there as is maybe some of those shitty non-effect synchros could regenerate. But even than there's better respawn beatsticks like Doomlord
DIVINE attribute should be a thing, even though rarely. It should be assigned to truly godlike creatures exclusively, like the Egyptian Gods and the Aesir. Other good candidates would be deities from other mythologies that are huge boss monsters for their archetypes, like a deck based on Greek mythology (Zeus, Hades and Poseidon would be badass). Support should be very few and far between, to not make it a common sight.
16:49 Nordic Relic Laevateinn is used to destroy your OWN gods after they destroyed any monster so you can pull the effect off and +1 either a trap, a draw or deal a burn of 800.
Nordic Relic Gungir is actually really good. It's a 1 for 1 at worst and a plus 1 quite often. You chain it to save your monster from being removed by something wasting their removal, and then pop another of their cards.
A new support came for them and they now have an AOE Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss like trap card and a good spell that can get you another Nordic god with the right setup in the GY. The New Spell/Trap searcher is amazing and the more you read it, the more you realize how much Konami tried to make it that amazing. Overall, the archetype is playable now in my opinion. And No ... It is not tier 0 and can not compete with meta decks but it is a Good deck now.
combo is you can set the token goat then summon the special summoning goat. Summon vanadis dump another one to make an oden that can be summoned twice. Then you can make ancient sacred wyvern by changing the goat and win
It says a lot that when they made an entire archetype about Norse runes, down to making Odins twin ravens one of the few monsters you use, they didnt even attempt to tie it to Nordics. We really had Norse Archetype and The Cooler Norse Archetype.
The ironic thing is that Nordics topped a YCS and a regional. Nordics aren't that bad of a archetype. At least they are not on the level of Ice Barrier and crystal beast shit.
I love Nordics and have been running them for 6 years. I agree they're really underrated and in the hands of somebody that knows what they're doing they can be surprisingly good. But they're not really anywhere close to being "good" in the normal sense. It's what I like about them though. You've got to spend some real time and effort with them. Due to how wasteful they are too you have to play clever.
I believe they would be playable if their revival effect said something like "During your opponent's EP if this card is in your graveyard, you can banish 1 bla tuner from your graveyard; special summon this card" they would be playable with omega to get fodder to revive them again... something that is not limited to the turn they were sent to the graveyard and the way they were sent, also the quick effects, since as you said yourself, in their current state they are not that useful(for loki to have the S/T negation once per turn during either players turn)
how about doing the cyber archetype?(except cyber dragons, because those are pretty cool) -cyberdark... -cyber tutu,skater,etc... -cyber ogre ,esper also any reptile deck or guardians or spirits...
Cybers are a series, not an archetype. Cyberdarks are sort-of-but-not-really an archetype, since there's no cards in the game that say "one Cyberdark monster."
Was hanging out with my friend the other day, he told me he found his old box of cards, so naturally I scavenged for any hidden gems when he said the thing was fair game. Found a lot Spiders. Spiders were a 5ds archetype, were they relevant at all?
Felix Rojas V. yeah, Nordic's could explode in a wet noodle play without reliable recovery in case it gets repulsed whereas Spiders never explode a crippled arm vs no arm basically
I'm pretty sure I saw a character in the anime use a Nordic Alfar deck and the monster that was on the field that let him trigger Ljosalfar's effect was Ljosalfar itself,and he used it's effect to summon the level 5 Tuner,I think.
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Actual conversation at my locals once:
"What's a bad hand in Nordics?"
"Nordics"
F
It's funny because it's true.
actually I played it with the link it a one turn odin summon so any cards you get you can get rid of anyway
Dio the comment is three years old. Do you think the Nordic link monster existed three years ago? :P
@@pokeperson1000 I was talking about now when they came out they make the deck amazing :P
this archetype was the reason I got into yugioh. not because i like the archetype, but because I was given Thor Lord of aesir by some guy at a waffle house. I thought the card was super valuable, and didn't wanna not do something with it, so I decided to learn how to play. I've been playing lightsworns for 4 years now, and I have crippling depression.
Epic back story, wish the deck performed much better now
@@Trigger99X heh yeah, hope I meet the waffle house dude again
@@xianad2electricboogaloo399 is there any more context to this??? like why did he give it to you?? was he drunk or on drugs or something or just feeling generous?
@@StardustLegend it seems like a similar situation like Yugi giving Jaden the Winged Kuriboh card, at least thats how i see it
Expect Winged Kuriboh was a good card.
When youtube got rid of the annotations feature, it removed the annotation, Rata put into this video at about 15:54. The following is that message (paraphrased, best to memory):
After re-visiting this card, I realised that there is nothing stopping your opponent from using Odin's (the monster on this card's artwork) effect to make it immune from the effects of GOTTERDAMMERUNG. This, essentially, make this card useless.
"Here you go dude; free 4K beater."
"Wow. What's the catch?"
"There's no catch. I just hate my life."
Huh neat
Thanks for the info man
I miss annotations
@@thebokchoy6854 Same here. I think it was because most people used it to spam crap all over the screen, which was kind of annoying. I mean, basic red or blue boxes with text are like Window's Movie Maker level of 2008 quality. That being said alot of times it was usually used to add something important, after the video was posted. Usually, somekind of small correction is added to correct an error, like a statistic being slightly off, was done with the annotations feature.
Isn't it a lingering effect though? You cannot be unaffected by lingering effects.
It's like how a wild monster apears on venominaga still destroys her at the end phase
The greatest sin of this archetype is that Thor isn't a thunder type.
And Laugh attribute.
Why is he a beast-warrior
no my friend the true greatest sin is the fact that tho loki and odin are designed to work together yet the tuners that loki needs dont help him in the same way guldfaxe and vandis help thor and odin besides thor and odin are stronger than loki are easier to bring out and have better on field and graveyard effects
@@MaestroAlvis he's summoned via beasts
@@MaestroAlvis Because his mother was a giant
The way Fenrir and Jormungandr are explicitly designed to interact with each other is an extreme level of LOOOOOORE.
OOOOOOOREEE
They should have been kaijus and interact with Odin, Tyr and Thor.( Like they Anti kaijus war machines). Ar least Konami has Nidhogg, Surtur, Hela, etc.,etc to redeem themselves
Where is my Hela the Nordic Goddess who let's me summon her to my opponent's side of the field and locks him in not use Nordics as material for Synchro and forget about all other summons?
@@Joseph-gy2rn Knightmare corruptor iblee
I think the most indicative problem of the deck is Gleipnir, because it's the ultimate showing of how this Deck was just a nerfed 1-1 recreation of a shitty anime duel rather than an attempt to create something fun or balanced or based on Norse mythology. Why? Because do you know why it's called "The Fetters of Fenrir?" Because that's what Gleipnir was in mythology.
When Fenrir showed up, the gods tried every single type of chain or bond that they could make, even chains with links the size of a man. But Fenrir, being Fenrir, could break everything in creation. So instead, they resolved to create a rope out of things that didn't exist in creation - the breath of a fish, the roots of a mountain, the sound of a cat's footfall, etc - and therefore, it would hold Fenrir until Ragnarok. So how would you interpret this myth into the real card game? You'd think it'd be a Fiendish Chain on steroids... but instead, it's a searcher.
Why? Because Harald used it in the anime to add Fenrir to his hand. And why is it a Trap? Because it was a Riding Duel, meaning no spells. If not for that one scene with Harald, there would be no link between this card and the original myth, and it might as well be named Shapesnatch's Schlong for all it does to reflect mythology.
Wow good research though you did get to things wrong
A. It was a ribbon and
B. It was made by dwarfs
Other than that your spot on
Warden Light it was made using that stuff
Those items where called paradox items.
Warden light just read "magnus chase and the gods of asgards"
Wait, you're upset that the Ribbon they used to trap Fenrir is a trap card?
5 years later, and the newest Nordic supports give us:
- A spell card that can SS any Nordic mons from the deck, then banish itself to search any Nordic mons.
- A tuner that can SS any Nordic from hand upon summoning, recover a Nordic from the GY, and are not exclusive to any Aesir, just like Vanadis.
- A monster that can search any Nordic Relic and SS itself.
- A continuous trap that brings back any Aesir from the GY at the cost of tributing a Nordic, and negates the entire opponent's field if you have an Aesir.
Searching? Checked
Recovery? Checked
Less exclusive Aesir and main deck focus? Checked
Better Aesir effect? Well to some extent with the trap
Y'know, I'm still convinced Konami takes your videos into consideration at some points.
Beat me to it, GJ. I am still hoping for a retrain of the Aesir (looking at you Loki) but nice support nonetheless.
What are the names? I wanna add them to my nordic collection
They are still pretty bad tho
@@wildflyandspeedio3033 Well, yeah, but at least they aren't just 'Nordic Beasts are king'
@@wildflyandspeedio3033 They're good enough to be tested against meta decks unironically. And even though they don't stack up, they're now unarguably playing.
They were nerfed. In the anime, the Aesir Synchros could be revived for free without having to remove a Tuner.
ShadowBaofu that would have been a lot better for the archetype imo
I feel like konami took notes from blizzard on nerfing
Late as shit (great reference to a great game, btw), but damn that auto-revival mechanic would've given weight to the idea of the nordics being immortal and revival and would've made them worth taking the risk on running.
@@MMetelli never thoguht i see you on rota's videos
@@animaginaryboy2741 lets be real it wouldn't made it any better (maybe slighter) but one its a ass to get one aseir out (well now there is a link) but you still have to remember they need to be destroyed by your oppenant
Two years later, and the realization came that Rata mercifully omitted to mention the fact that Mjollnir is one of those God-forsaken Trap cards that LITERALLY have no effect during the opponent's turn, just like Dark Scorpion Combination.
Such cards should ONLY have absolutely devastating effects, like anime-Card of Demise, or anime-Riryoku.
It's because of anime bullshit. They were played in a Riding Duel/Turbo Duel, which stops normal Spells from being used. So Mjolnir being a Trap in the anime was necessary, and for some reason they decided not to change it to a Spell.
I lost it at 'Your whole field dies to MST." XD
Signerdragon123 Eternal Soul & Dark Magician, everyone!
So would using set rotation to give the nordic field spell to ones opponent and then popping it result in wiping their field or does the effect of the field spell just affect nordic/aesir monsters?
@@anotherhuman2542 fixable by dark magician the dragon knight.
I read this as I heard it. Spooky
Did somebody said toon world
Not to mention the Nordic Gods in the anime didn't need to banish anything to revive.
yeah that would be too OP.
Hendriko Riestianto not even, if anything it'd make Nordic Aesir relevant lol
David Parisi That effect isn't that bad, considering that in a nordic deck you can't get anything back once its destroyed anyhow. Also odin is synchroed with 3 monsters unless you use tokens, so thats already 3 revives.
They revive banishing Tuners
not in the anime they don't. they revive for free in the anime
I tried making nordic ojamas. Help.
You are beyond saving.
On the other hand, I'm going to hell for building Slifer Ojama....
@@SilverCyborgSliver i once ran ojama kuribohs and won duels. We are living in the worst timeline.
@I Need The Memes Please explain
I keep thinking Golden Apples is a support for them, but it's generic apparently.
It's a Nordic card as much as the generic-effect Relics are, it just doesn't have a name-relation, only in artwork and basis. And it was used with the Alfar in the anime.
Gotterdammerung! Nordics seems like such a disjointed archetype. The 4 sub-archetypes are baffling. The monsters should have all just been called "Nordic" and suddenly any of their tuners would be like Vanadis. I think the only archetype that can pull off conditional card names and not be terrible is Fluffals because they have better synergy between their 3 archetypes.
If they were generic, they would competitive play.
Valkyrie's effect was so much better in the anime, you could activate its effect even if you controlled another card and instead of banishing the nordic cards you just send them to the graveyard
You can also send any card to the grave, not necessarily Nordics.
I find this interesting that no one in the comments has brought this up but in every modern Nordic build, you can usually see them packing 3 of Temple of the Kings because of how you can activate a Trap Card the turn it was set. So that turns the search trap into a medallion I guess you could say.
Also while I do agree that Konami did not do Nordics enough justice, I still enjoy this archetype and will do so for a long time.
@RANK10YGO
you actually did pretty good on pronouncing "götterdämmerung"
It's almost like his native tongue allows for subtle vowel manipulation lol
(just realized this sounds like I'm trolling; I'm not, just thought it was ironic)
I prefer RAGNARÖK myself
@@yetiornot5726i watch a lot of swedish and nordic youtube content so I've gotten pretty good at it myself
Also, one suggestion about this segment.
It would be cool if you tried to make a deck of the shitty archtype you showed in the video and showcased a duel or two with them, just to see how the deck would go off.
+Gshiinobi I actually had that in mind, but I was afraid it would make videos a bit too long. I'll consider it in the future.
RANK10YGO Yes! i'm sure it would make this segment even more enjoyable! (btw can i suggest cloudians? i'll suggest cloudians)
I was thinking of doing Cloudians but I don't really consider them a terrible archetype. For the time they were released in, Cirrostratus, Acid Cloud and Atlus were decent cards, there's a Quasar variant that surprisingly works, Nimbusman OTK used to be very potent, they're just an overall... tolerable archetype.
RANK10YGO Hmm i see, i personally don't think they're that bad, just slow and outdated.
Well then, i'd like to see maybe the gx roid cards? or the genex archetype, yeah, those would be interesting episodes.
That segment idea would make a pretty good show
In duel links, i summon Odin in turn 1.
Oponent turn 2: i summon ojama indigo and use enemy controler...
Huh, I think some of these are like the proto Yang Zing (Specifically the Tuners that Summon from the deck/tokens for easy Synchros). Minus the floating of course.
+Yozzoy The real proto Yang Zing would be Gustos, mainly due to the focus on floating and Special Summoning from the Deck.
RANK10YGO True, but you see a few shades here and there. While Gustos were the predecessors, some of these Nordics seemed to have established certain ideas, granted not executed well.
That or maybe its the sleep deprivation and overstudying talking. Ah well, excellent video
Welp.
So sorry Rata, here comes all the comments about you quote unquote memeing Nordic Link support into existence.
On a more serious note, it is genuinely interesting to see Konami give these guys another chance instead of yet another batch of nostalgia support for protagonists and/or main rivals.
Funnily enough, in the new Legendary Hero decks, some of the Nordic monsters are getting revised as Link Monsters.
They got a Link monster. And it’s so “Nordic” it hurts because it really doesn’t do much.
The link helps the deck immensely. The problem is it depletes to many resources and at the end of the day your still playing nordics. The link and alviss were far better than what the nordics had before making a turn one aesir is incredibly better than what it did before. The problem with the deck is the deck it’s self two new cards can not fix a deck that just has no synergy or lack of monsters that actually give you some value
The problem is that it was to small if they kept going maybe giving them something to get your cards back an actual field spell and keep going in that direction of bringing your boss monsters out early they wouldn’t be good but they would at least be semi playable maybe even add new boss monsters that add good effects that are worth it maybe making the enemy banish some cards or adding a big monster that is unaffected by card effects permanently and has a load of attack points as a sort of win condition add a card that summons a Nordic monster from the extra deck but gets destroyed during the end phase or something
Damn this was back when you only had 600 Subscribers??? Man you've come far
Gotterdammerung showing the WORST card to use it with on the art is such a 5ds konami thing to do lmao
your vids are so fun... yet so depressing
It would be great to see cloudians now that you mentioned them.
I second this.
Damn dude you deserve wayyy more subs. One can actually tell that youput a lot of time and effort into your videos. Keep up the great work man, one day youll get your deserved hype.
+TheSchranksalat Thanks, I try.
Also, the channel only started in October last year, so it needs so time to build up subs. Spread it around and there'll be views aplenty
+RANK10YGO I will! Btw, because you even mention them do frequently, how about a LOTW Ice Barrier Video?
+TheSchranksalat so*
Super secret hint: Check the channel on April 1st for that one
Gungnir is very nice for disrupting cheap combos like Power of the Guardians, and also disrupting expensive tribute summons, without wasting a good counter spell card, and it is also a D.D. capsule. I play it with Nordic Beasts plus unicorn horns.
Gotterdammerung is actually kinda German.
Although we write this as "Götterdämmerung"
It means Twilight of the Gods or ragnarok in danish.
Also you speak it ˌɡəːtəˈdɛmərʊŋ
Thats because Norse mythology and old german mythology is basically the same
@@heroeus8173 ehhh, not really, but kinda. German mythology does not really exist actually, since our country didn't exist long enough (at least not on its own). The reason many people associate it with norse mythology is a certain man with a weird moustache, who figured that militarizing german people would be easier if they considered themself some kind of repressed people who have a long history behind them. That's why the "Varus-Sage" was invented, which connected the roman warlord Varus, who was able to form an alliance with a germanic (not sure if that's the right word in english, but in german there's a difference between germans and germanics, germanics were basically vikings) tribe in order set a trap to a roman batallion that wanted to see him dead. Hitler and his followers reinterpreted this as the founding of german people, which it wasn't, just so that they could have the germans think of themself as a kind of "chosen" people. That's also the reason why Albert Speer, Hitlers architect, embedded a lot of norse mythology into his buildings (mainly reliefs at the entrances), so that this idea could be implemented in daily life.
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𝘓𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘨𝘰 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘪𝘢(𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭 𝘪𝘳𝘢𝘯) 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘦𝘥 𝘥𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘵 𝘸𝘩𝘪𝘤𝘩 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴
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𝘐𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯& 𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘢
𝘕𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘤𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘩𝘦𝘥
𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘴 2 𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘦𝘧
𝘖𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘺 𝘪𝘯 𝘗𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯/𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘢 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘪𝘭𝘦
𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘥 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘦𝘴𝘵
𝘚𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘵𝘳𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘭
𝘛𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘺
𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘺 𝘏𝘪𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰𝘰𝘬 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘸𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘬𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘴 𝘴𝘺𝘮𝘣𝘰𝘭 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘴𝘺𝘮𝘣𝘰𝘭𝘴
𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘺𝘮𝘣𝘰𝘭 𝘪𝘴 𝘢𝘭𝘴𝘰 𝘧𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘢𝘬𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯,𝘪𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘢&𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘪𝘣𝘦𝘵 𝘯𝘦𝘢𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘏𝘪𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘢𝘺𝘢𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦
𝘐𝘯𝘧𝘭𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘰𝘱𝘭𝘦𝘴
𝘕𝘰𝘸 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘧𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘬𝘦𝘳
𝘞𝘦 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘎𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘯
𝘞𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘺 "𝘈𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘥𝘴"
𝘈𝘭𝘭 𝘪 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘣𝘦𝘴
𝘚𝘰 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘣𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘪𝘤 𝘨𝘰𝘥𝘴
𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘦
𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘰𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘴,𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘦𝘬𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘕𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘴 𝘨𝘰𝘥
𝘐𝘴 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘮 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘥𝘪𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘯𝘢𝘮𝘦𝘴
𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘦𝘴
𝘕𝘰𝘸 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘩𝘶𝘳𝘤𝘩
𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘱𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘴𝘮
𝘚𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘳𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘨𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴𝘭𝘺 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘨𝘦𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯
𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘯 𝘢 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘢 𝘱𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘳𝘰𝘸𝘯 𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨
𝘏𝘦 𝘯𝘦𝘦𝘥𝘴 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘣𝘢𝘱𝘵𝘪𝘴𝘮 𝘣𝘺 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘱𝘦
𝘚𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘤𝘳𝘰𝘸𝘯𝘦𝘥
𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘦
𝘐𝘧 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘰𝘭𝘥 𝘦𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘩
𝘉𝘢𝘤𝘬 𝘪𝘯 𝘭𝘦𝘵𝘴 𝘴𝘢𝘺 𝘟𝘭𝘭 𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘴
𝘐 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘨𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘷𝘪𝘴 𝘷𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘢
𝘍𝘰𝘳 𝘮𝘦 𝘌𝘯𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘩 𝘪𝘴 𝘢 𝘮𝘪𝘹𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘯
𝘌𝘶𝘳𝘰𝘱𝘦𝘢𝘯 𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘨𝘶𝘢𝘨𝘦𝘴,𝘨𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘤&𝘢 𝘣𝘪𝘵 𝘰𝘧 𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘯
@@SilverCyborgSliverNordic, I think. English speakers know Vikings as Nords (outside of the Bethesda games like Skyrim). I don't know how accurate that is to their culture, but it's kind of just what we've been taught here.
Konami should prolly idk actually play Yu-Gi-Oh! when they’re making cards
Not just Konami but creators, in general. They have no idea what gamers like and how games play out because, generally, they don't play games.
@@RAINIBEAR yeah it is really obvious that they really haven’t done any sort of research for balancing
Imagine this for support: Treasure Room of the Divine Relics (Continuous Spell) You can activate Trap cards that specifically list "Nordic" and "Aesir" monsters from your hand. Once per turn, during your End Phase, you can add one "Divine Relic" card from your Deck to your hand, except "Treasure Room of the Divine Relics".
Additionally, expand on the Nordic Champions idea, having more mythological Nordic Heroes that can replace the specifics of Nordic Tuners, or Special Summon themselves when there are Nordic Tuners to make getting the gods out easier. Maybe having GY effects that also protect the gods or give them other effects.
I mean, yeah, they made support, but that was *lazy* support. That was a brute forced attempt to make the deck into something viable instead of taking what's already there and doing something with it, or expanding upon an idea that might be there, like turning Fenrir and Jormungdr into Kaiju.
*at min **7:21* What do you mean? Garmr Is pretty amazing! It also disrupts Gemini and decks that use counters and... what do you mean those stopped being played years ago? Oh well... Next Monster
Also it could just be set.
And we're about the get legacy support for these guys in october, based on the description on ygorganization it will include a new lv10 synchro and a link monster that I quote "a new Link Monster makes it easier to assemble the Synchro Materials needed to Summon an “Aesir” monster" - sounds almost like a archetype exclusive needlefiber
they nurdered the nordic god monsters, as in the anime it was never stated they needed spcifically a nordic tuner of any kind, and also in the anime the revival effect WAS FREE. no banishing required, no nothing, they just automatecly brought themselves back. i mean theres a big plot point i remember from the anime where thor keeps getting blown up continually, then resurrecting and smacking yusei with hefty burn damage (hefty because they only play with 4000 lifepoints). if they had kept the nordic gods the same as they were represented in the anime completly, they would have actually been pretty good in my opinion, especially for destruction heavy decks like fire kings or scraps. while i'm not saying the nordic gods would be top tier or anything, they would definetly be far more of a force to be reckoned with, especially if you pair them with mask of restrict, mound of the bound creator, and imperial iron wall.
yeah honestly without the nerfs and a little more thought/more actually useful support the archtype could have been amazing but just goes to show that with konami your only going to get crushed dreams no matter what product of theres you buy
Agreed i actually did a match with wat there effects were in the show i took on two people one using yangzing the other using masked hero
GOT HER DAMN RUN haha great American accent
the annotation was even funnier..."whats the catch" "there is no catch i just hate my life" LOL
love your channel!
"You won't be running Nordic Lights unless your a complete dolt"
I don't know why but this comment made me burst out laughing XD
the confusing thing for me is that they were nerfed from the anime. In the anime the syncrho's didn't need their tuner monsters and Valkyrie didn't have that effect as Haldr used it's effect while having 2 synchro monsters plus a face-down on the field.
I remember I was playing against somebody with my anime/playground deck and was able to special summon Guldfaxe using its effect and my opponent was shocked at how specific it’s summoning requirement was and that I managed to use it
15:40 : It is called "Götterdämmerung" which is German for "Dawn of the Gods"
18:36 Has anyone notice how ODD Odin’s card art looks? Like, it doesn’t look like Odin’s eye, since it looks reptilian/demonic, and the hand doesn’t look familiar at all- was this card art meant for something else?
All of the Aesir's designs are terrible, too.
Why does Loki have boobs? What the hell is Odin even holding? What the hell is up with Thor's hammer?
Odin holds a staff, and Thor's hammer is pretty big
Also: Thor has man-panties.
well loki did give birth to an 8 legged horse, it would need something to suckle.
The hammer looks like a perfume bottle on a tree branch!
That's his shirt, probably a spear, and I have no idea
Mimir: They call me Mimir, the smartest man alive, and I have the answer to your every question.
Me: Why aren't the Nordic cards any good?
Mimir: ... Okay there are a few gaps in my knowledge.
They coulda been good
If their synchros were generic
+Anthony Kallberg If they were generic that would be another excuse to never touch any other of their cards lol
leo is generic and much better than all the 3 aesirs
I just recently found your channel, and I have to say that I love your sense of humor.
Nordics (if you may be able to tell) are my deck. As in, for nearly 2 years I hunted down other Nordic players to defeat them and show my skill. They're, a very unique deck I think. I dropped Loki (HE ISN'T EVEN.AN AESIR KONAMI) and focused on the Beasts. Using some solid tech like Super Nimble Mega Hamster and BLS, Norfics can actually be pretty damn good. You have to run a lot of backrow, and Pot of D at 3. But once you geta real handle on it, they're a damn good deck. Ljosalfar is a great card that can let you hit level 8s pretty easy by the way. I find people focus too much on the Synchros. I always took the strategy that Odin and Thor aren't an absolute necessity to win because you can make level 7s and 8s pretty easy. I'm really passionate about this deck. It can be flexible, powerful and pretty consistant. My rose tinted glasses will forever remind me of the days when I'd drink mead, wear my "Drink mead and praise Odin" t-shirt and destroy all manner of decks on the old DN. Other people may not love Nordics, but for me they were my favourite deck in the game by a long shot.
I remember running this in 2014, it was quite fun running it.
Even in anime the Serpent of the World and Fenrir combo fails and Yusei uses both of them as material to D.D Spirit and a Speed Spell card, so yeah, even in anime where everything can happen, even there this combo fails, do you really think this thing can work?
rewatching in 2024 and when he said 'fenrir' it triggered my fight or flight response.
Nordics actually topped a regional. Is that the first legacy of the worthless archetype to top an event?
Laughed so much during this; great analysis man. Love these vids
My old way I used to win in one turn was to attack with Odin, activate megingjord, then use Honest to hit my opponent for 8000. It was great when I pulled it off. Rarely came up though
Freya, Lady of the Aesir
2 "Nordic" monsters, arrows pointing down left and down right
You can only activate each of these effects once per turn. 1: Target one of your banished "Nordic" monsters, special summon it but shuffle it into the deck at the end phase of the turn it was special summoned. (Quick Effect) 2: Target one "Nordic" monster on the field, it's name becomes "Child of the Aesir" until it is removed from the field. 3: Shuffle 1 card from your hand into your deck to add 1 "Nordic" monster from your graveyard to your hand.
Asgard, Realm of the Nordics
Field Spell
While this card is on the field: "Aesir" monsters you control cannot be targeted by card effects. Reduce the level of all "Alfar" monsters in your hand, field, and graveyard by one. "Nordic Beast" monsters you control cannot be destroyed by battle. Once per turn you can discard one "Nordic Ascendant" monster from your hand to special summon another "Nordic" monster from your deck whose level is less than or equal to the discarded monster.
Mac Tonight I wish this was real😔
The worst part about this arctype is it is overly dependent on the syncro Aesir but it’s hard to bring them out
I love this series these videos are hilarious and keep up the awesome work
do you know what would be fun?
having a only legacy of worthless deck games with friends :3
i did that with my friend tristan, amazoness VS neos, i won because of swarming and amazoness tiger being a decent out to powerful normal summons
Viktor eXe *cough cough* war of the worthless *cough cough*
I _do_ wish that there was more of a point in establishing formats where the insane power creep and constant meta focus wasn't a necessity.
I'd just tech my way around it with mirror forces
Your pronunciation of Ljósálf is way better than most that I've heard.
I disagree with having this deck in this series. While the majority of the archetype is worthless, Nordic did get a handful of YCS tops back in 2011 thanks to the goats and horse and the majority of that deck has never been hit. While it is certainly bad by today's standards, it is certainly better than anything else in the series and many decks not included.
Yeah, I realize that, and this video is frankly more of a product of my slight incompetence with early handling of the channel due to a lack of research, and if it wasn't for the fact that Nordics had far less tops than Worms, I'd have retroactively eliminated them from the series as well.
RANK10YGO fuck you
@@whiteamericanmale7392 well jesus that was out of nowhere did someone piss in your card collection that morning or something
I used to run a Thorr synchro deck using horsy, black goat, and white goat, with support cards from elsewhere. Wasn't tier 1 obviously but was real fun.
Yeah, with Fenrir and Jormungardr, you could just not be an idiot and use Lava Golem instead. Also, Gungnir basically Doom Lord's you, so...
Or fuse them to summon Beast-Eyes Pendulum Dragon and inflict 4000 each time it destroys something by battle.
I love nordics because I'm a absolute nut for mythology.
My god! All the 5ds hate! Man that was my favorite yugioh... Also on tannjouster (I think that's his name) you can't XYZ with tokens. Or believe me Galaxy tomohawk would be OP lol
i mean its understandable alot of the decks/archtypes from 5ds were just terrible and outside of that the ones that werent due to all these new rules and effects the games cancer level went through the roof in a single era of the game at least with xyz pendulum and links they eased on the gas with synchros and other effects they just slammed on the gas strait slamming into the wall known as the meta completely obliterating it
@@dr.dylansgame5583 I'm still disappointed they didn't make "Earthbound Immortal" a proper archetype. Wouldn't it be cool to have black, symbol-bearing monsters that call for their "god", a huge, black silhouette with glowing symbols all over them.
They could have given each Immortal a different support, like Nordics, but more coherent and with more generalized synergy, so that you can use "Ccu Cupankapu" (or something) cards partly with "Wresquicha Rasca"(probably wrong) cards as example.
I love this series keep up the good work
Thor actually wrecks any of those obnoxious XYZs that save themselves or allied monsters from destruction. That's a nice Zenmaines you've got there, be a shame if its effect didn't work.
Megingjord can be used for some insane burst damage. Odin hitting Stardust Dragon could result in over 5k damage.
Gungnir is evasion, plain and simple. Dodge a Torrential Tribute, Mirror Force, or even Bottomless Trap Hole.
Auron3991
Thor then gets wrecked by Honor Ark, just like the rest of the Aesir
Megingjord is deadweight outside that "specific situation" which you don't want for a competitive deck
And Gungnir keeps your boss, who you just went -1 to summon, off the field for a whole turn
Allowing your opponent a turn to setup more field presence to counter the boss when it returns
Or straight up OTK you lmfao
Nordics are trash, stop trying to put Ornaments on a landfill
Funny, since I managed to face some pretty decent decks with them (including a few serious tournament decks). Markedly, I ran a chaos variant, so I had some weird card choices, but they managed to work quite well. That's the thing about this game, most decks have a build that at least functions even if it isn't the best. Heck, I saw a Dark Simorgh lockdown deck that did fairly well against competitive E-Hero.
All of these are good, thank you!
I'm really disappointed that they didn't have a better Nordic theme. They could have had more Nordic gods, added freaking VIKINGS (like Ragnar Lodbrok and/or non-historical Vikings) and Viking berserkers, and other mythological figures like Sigurd (a human warrior that was a dragon slayer), and Valkyries; including Brunhilde who fell in love with Sigurd. There also isn't a magic card named Valhalla; it would have been perfect for special summoning Vikings from the deck and or graveyard. There are so many real life Nordic sagas that speak of warriors and myths, and that is another reason there was a lot of wasted potential with the Nordic theme. I don't know why Koonami threw away so many opportunities with this theme. They did a good job with the Samurai theme I thought, so maybe they just didn't have as much passion for western mythology and historical warriors (Vikings) since they are Japanese. I also don't like the design of the three Nordic gods that they did add. An example of that is Odin; he is associated with two crows and yet they aren't in his card's design or in any Nordic cards for that matter. What Nordic cards do exist have crappy effects.
Also, feel free to make corrections to my post. I haven't kept up with Yugioh in a while, so I'm not 100% sure if they added any of the characters to the Nordic deck that I mentioned but I doubt they have since it is a fairly old deck by now.
+ApolloX1 You know what. If I were designing Valkyrie of the nordic ascendants I would honestly change her name to Brunhilde of the Nordic Ascendants & include Zigfried Von Schroeder from the original Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters series in the background for an easter egg.
as much as i hate to say it konami does this alot and sadly that shit wont change its the same reason alot of older cards were bad they have there head up there ass half the time and the other half is usually barely passable i mean hell its the same reason most archtypes up until now only run half there cards at most and then just splash in other cards from different sets and why certain archtype cards get abused in other decks that nobody would have even thought of normally
@@GatorRay Siegfried?
Who was that again?
@@xCorvus7x Basically the antagonist of the last filler arc of DM, with his Deck being Valkyrie (based on the 'Der Ring des Nibelungen')
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 right, thx
It's such a shame the Aesir monsters were nerfed so hard
In the anime they didnt need to banish tuners to be resurrected, they were resurrected without cost during every standby phase
Their synchro summons/special summons (ie resurrecting themselves) could also not be negated and they could not be destroyed in the turn they were summoned by any card effect
Also, their negate effects were quick effects, so yeah, not useful on your opponents turn but holy shit, 10x better than what Konami ended up printing
Basically, they were also a massive pain in the ass to get rid of (they only had to be in the GY to resurrect, so Kaijus etc. would only be a temporary 1 turn fix as well) and could only be dealt with by enormous beaters or banish-based removal from a specific card type that each individual aesir was not immune to
Don't they have like a golden apple trap card too?
LostEmperor that was not part of the archtype.
Loving this series!
to be fair with the perfomage engine I made an Odin deck and I could spam the field and get my lvl 10 syn monsters every turn
Potential Surt,Doom of Aesir and each and every damn Ragnarok theme monster: Yeah,yeah,i'm going to hell
And the one guy who got killed by mistletoe can be a followup play for after the Raganrok portion of the archetype kills the entire field.
Example play:
Make the link, spit out an Aesir.
Get beaten.
Summon Surtr, Doom of the Aesir.
Reverse nuke/Trish the opponent's hand, field, GY, and cards from the top of their deck equal to the number of Nordic and Aesir monsters banished from your hand, Field, and GY for Surtr's effect.
Then Surtr searches you Nordic cards from your deck equal to the number of Aesir monsters banished by Surtr's effect.
Assuming only 1 search, you get Baldur, who would basically have to give you another copy for the Link, spit out another Aesir, and let you use banished Nordics to synchro out as many Aesirs as you can make with your banished Nordic monsters.
I hope we see the ally of justice video soon
I would go with more monsters that help with swarming the field to make summoning the Aesir monster a lot easier, as well as being more versatile in helping with summoning The Aesirs regardless of build, also follow it up with having more synchro options, something the Aesirs seem to lack, by adding more synchro options, they would be opening up more plays for the Nordics/Aesir.
for example, have a synchro monster that counts as 2 non-tuner materials to assist in the summon of Thor, Loki and/or Odin. as well as having effects that grant more protective abilities if they are used as synchro materials for either Loki, Thor and/or Odin
Follow this up with a field card that gives the Nordics/Aesirs not only more protection, but also allows the controller to normal summon a second time in the process. A spell card that not only searches, but if you control an Aesir monster, you can place a tuner in the graveyard to allow the controller to banish the tuner of the respective Aesir to summon the Aesir again.
Meanwhile there could be a trap that allows you to banish the required material from either the deck, field or graveyard to synchro summon an Aesir monster during your opponent's turn, but they must declare an attack, also the synchro summon cannot be negated, another trap card could return all banished Nordic tuner monsters to graveyard to allow for more re-usability of the Aesir monsters in the process, then they could follow it up with a counter trap card that would negate, the activation of a spell/trap/monster effect and destroy it, but you also need to control either an Aesir or Nordic monster to activate it.
Overall there is potential, but Konami failed to give it the potential that it needed.
And they’re getting more support soon
the fact that they gave a norse-mythology-themed archetype a support spell with a german name they just flat-out misspelled tells you everything you need to know about how much work they put into this lol
Ally of justice next! if possible!
09:30 Still irks me that the Nordic Ascendant isn't considered a "Valkyrie" card now.
What's the name of the song in the background?
keep going, these videos are amazing
The deck is alot better than you give it credit for. It can easily make lvl 7, 8, 9 or 10 synchros and if played right can be very powerful. In all honesty all the deck needs is a draw card and another tuner for the beasts. And the nordic gods are not that hard to summon.
Be cool if they updated the deck to today standards as I really like the art work and especially Thor.
Making a lv 7/8/9/10 synchro while going minus is meaningless unless its something like that lv 8 clear wing dragon, which they certainly cant summon.
LowTier4Life Odins effect used to be scary
What do you mean by "if played right"? And powerful against what? Also, from what I can tell, they need way more than a draw card and another Beast Tuner if they ever hope to be able to mesh the three sub-archetypes together into something playable. A Beast version of Vanadis that doesn't require you to jump through a dozen hoops would be a start at least.
Also, yes, the Aesir aren't too difficult, but as things stand, they're just not worth the trouble most of the time.
LowTier4Life i completely agree , i made a nordic deck and it is nearly unstoppable when pulled off , and i pull it off about 90% of the time
the issue I'm seeing with the Nordics is that they focused on flavour without any way of making it work for the game. For example, Valkirie is based on the valkyries, obviously, and her thing is whisking the souls of fallen warriors and bringing them to Valhala, as a valkyrie does.
Tangrisnir and Tangnostr are Thor's goats, their thing in the mythology is that Thor kills them every night to eat for supper and then he lays out their pelts and bones overnight and they're alive again, this would have been more effective mechanically if they had an effect to come back from the graveyard on each of your standby phases.
Garmr is based on Hela's dog, who guards the underworld, so him sending monsters back to the hand could be a reference to them being rejected from the underworld (idk, I'm stretching on this one)
for a way more flavourful and actually useful way of doing Mimir, who's severed head rests in the fountain of wisdom and knows everything, would be for hm to let you look at your opponent's hand.
I got out of Yugioh in 2011, I have been watching videos recently and I don't like the speed of the current game.
Same it's pretty crap because it's like if you don't do am xyz summon with 2 synchro summons and revive a lvl 7 monster from the graveyard it's a bad turn
I think so too, I used to play online from time to time and usually lost because my opponent summoned like 10 monsters with 3000 atk plus in one turn ouf of nowhere
true
+Le Lesra There are only five monster zones, though...
For em it si the magic of decks like dragunitys to make that combos to flash your enemie blow his deck off that is for me the magic of these decks
Legend says that when Rata speaks of an archetype, Konami decides to spite Rata's opinions.
Synchros should have all been DIVINE/Divine-Beast and revive themselves for free like the anime. But nope. Konami had to shit all over that idea. -_-
Wouldn't mind some more DIVINE monsters/support. They don't have to be fantastic, but the attribute and type are sadly underused for how cool and mystic they could be.
FuryOfAxel Reason I say that is because they WERE all DIVINE/Divine-Beast in the anime. =(
Well yeah; but the only support for DIVINE monsters are Mound of the Bound Creator and True Name, both of which only search a DIVINE monster. It'd be far more cool if the Nordic Aesir monsters were such attributes and types, but it wouldn't make a difference if they were typed that way. However, if they were generic Synchro monsters and had their anime revival effects, maybe they'd be a whole lot better.
That'd get crazy dumb OP real quick. There's a lot of good synchros out there as is
maybe some of those shitty non-effect synchros could regenerate. But even than there's better respawn beatsticks like Doomlord
DIVINE attribute should be a thing, even though rarely. It should be assigned to truly godlike creatures exclusively, like the Egyptian Gods and the Aesir.
Other good candidates would be deities from other mythologies that are huge boss monsters for their archetypes, like a deck based on Greek mythology (Zeus, Hades and Poseidon would be badass).
Support should be very few and far between, to not make it a common sight.
16:49 Nordic Relic Laevateinn is used to destroy your OWN gods after they destroyed any monster so you can pull the effect off and +1 either a trap, a draw or deal a burn of 800.
Nordic Relic Gungir is actually really good. It's a 1 for 1 at worst and a plus 1 quite often. You chain it to save your monster from being removed by something wasting their removal, and then pop another of their cards.
A new support came for them and they now have an AOE Hot Red Dragon Archfiend Abyss like trap card and a good spell that can get you another Nordic god with the right setup in the GY.
The New Spell/Trap searcher is amazing and the more you read it, the more you realize how much Konami tried to make it that amazing.
Overall, the archetype is playable now in my opinion.
And No ... It is not tier 0 and can not compete with meta decks but it is a Good deck now.
I used to play nordics with tengu. They weren't too bad tbh
combo is you can set the token goat then summon the special summoning goat. Summon vanadis dump another one to make an oden that can be summoned twice. Then you can make ancient sacred wyvern by changing the goat and win
Team Newgeneration
Tengu was broken period, but it got hit by then ban hammer because *better decks* abused it to the limit
Guldfaxe(Gold-facts), this is how I pronounce the name of this card
I topped a locals against Nekroz with Nordics -.-
I beat dragon rulers as roids Eli Reid
+Eli Reid I beat glad beasts with venominaga.
ivo Dave damn man thats hardcore
one time i beat blue-Eyes with Winged Kuriboh + HEROES
I beat shooting quasar using normal Non-effect, no spell or trap cards, no monsters above level 4.
It says a lot that when they made an entire archetype about Norse runes, down to making Odins twin ravens one of the few monsters you use, they didnt even attempt to tie it to Nordics.
We really had Norse Archetype and The Cooler Norse Archetype.
The ironic thing is that Nordics topped a YCS and a regional. Nordics aren't that bad of a archetype. At least they are not on the level of Ice Barrier and crystal beast shit.
James Harrington Crystal Beasts and Ice Barriers are way better than everything in this series.
I love Nordics and have been running them for 6 years. I agree they're really underrated and in the hands of somebody that knows what they're doing they can be surprisingly good. But they're not really anywhere close to being "good" in the normal sense. It's what I like about them though. You've got to spend some real time and effort with them. Due to how wasteful they are too you have to play clever.
@@ultimatetadpole9607 Do you have a decklist? i just started playing them
Fuck, this is going to be 5 years in about 2 weeks. I was in 9th grade when this came out. I feel so old.
They have a link monster now......
Wait they do
We don't even know what the bloody thing even does so don't get hyped that much
Ufukcan Gencoglu now you can build Nordic thunder dragon
Very inconsistent but very powerful
That new Link saved the archetype in Legendary Hero's
yeah but if anything the deck is just incredibly mediocre
12:48 Tyr is not "Tyr" 1 XD
I believe they would be playable if their revival effect said something like "During your opponent's EP if this card is in your graveyard, you can banish 1 bla tuner from your graveyard; special summon this card" they would be playable with omega to get fodder to revive them again... something that is not limited to the turn they were sent to the graveyard and the way they were sent, also the quick effects, since as you said yourself, in their current state they are not that useful(for loki to have the S/T negation once per turn during either players turn)
how about doing the cyber archetype?(except cyber dragons, because those are pretty cool)
-cyberdark...
-cyber tutu,skater,etc...
-cyber ogre ,esper
also any reptile deck
or guardians
or spirits...
Worms? Worms were pretty good
noah solomon
except those...
Spirits can be prty good
Cybers are a series, not an archetype. Cyberdarks are sort-of-but-not-really an archetype, since there's no cards in the game that say "one Cyberdark monster."
The boss monster doesn't special summon themselves by ant cost in the anime. It's free. Thor negate's 1 monster and steals the effect.
Was hanging out with my friend the other day, he told me he found his old box of cards, so naturally I scavenged for any hidden gems when he said the thing was fair game.
Found a lot Spiders. Spiders were a 5ds archetype, were they relevant at all?
No
They were one of the bad 5ds archetypes but are fun.
Tackson Caswell they were bad like Nordics
Don't compare Nordic with spiders. At least they could do something
Felix Rojas V.
yeah, Nordic's could explode in a wet noodle play without reliable recovery in case it gets repulsed
whereas Spiders never explode
a crippled arm vs no arm basically
I'm pretty sure I saw a character in the anime use a Nordic Alfar deck and the monster that was on the field that let him trigger
Ljosalfar's effect was Ljosalfar itself,and he used it's effect to summon the level 5 Tuner,I think.