The Last Of Us Part 2 Review "Buy, Wait for Sale, Rent, Never Touch?"
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I am not one of those bigger gaming websites no 2-minute reviews here only details. Videogame reviews all the time. So if you are tired of short reviews, ones that don't discuss all the games, this is the right place. No big website 2-minute stuff here just a review for TLOU2
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Thank you for this!!! Such a great review like always!
What was your take on their capture of the Pacific Northwest?
I question the dodge mechanic, because in the Last of Us there was no dodge mechanic. In harder modes of the first game if you were spotted you had to either run away and hide, or try to fight your way on limited resources where either you die or you come out with depleted resources, then have to deal with that for a good deal of time and encounters where if you were spotted and caught you were basically dead. Basically speaking, if you made mistakes in the first game on harder modes you were punished big time and better off restarting that section, and smart play was rewarded.
Is there dodge spam in the harder modes of Part II making them much easier than the first game?
Why spoiler-free ? The Game has been out for a while
Why does so many videos disappear and appear again. I watched half the video and it disappeared from UA-cam and now it’s here again. 🤔
"The grass in the game makes other game's grass look like grass in games."
What a glorious sentence.
he says that while all the grass was clipping through the character, we arent there yet.
Meanwhile Crysis 3 had similar grass quality 7 years ago.
@@penumbrum3135 didnt it take 7y for tlou2 to release? :D
This reminds me of when my dad and I were comparing the graphics of mlb the show 2006 and madden 2006. We agreed that Jason Giambi looked exactly like Jason Giambi, but then in Madden, all the players looked like Jason Giambi.
time stamp plz
I like this guy. He talks like an experienced jeweler who knows his diamonds.
MagBa by far best reviewer on UA-cam
That's so specific but its completely correct
@@elfriskygaming156 agree although I can't decide between him and skillup. Both are extremely good in different ways.
Dude great example
@@elfriskygaming156 thanks!
I loved the dolly zoom that happens when you look down off a tall building as Abby, makes you feel super uncomfortable if you don't like heights.
Best of all, you can just turn it off too.
The accessibility options in this game are stellar, they should be standard.
Interesting that you can turn it off since it's part of her character but cool that you can for accessibility reasons
Dustin Caldwell Likely accounting for people who experience real vertigo with it on.
@@OoXLR8oO yeah 100% the game has so many accessibly options it's awesome!
@@OoXLR8oO People with actual vertigo probably already experience it without the effect on
The reason they gave u an option to turn that off is the same reason the game sucks
The audio quality in this game is the best of this generation
I still think Hunt Showdown does it better
Mad Dog some has with sony wh1000xm3 and rdr2 despite having amazing audio is no way near the audio quality of tlou2 ( and i am not even a tlou2 fan)
@ i did but Last of us is better
‘The grass in the game makes other games’ grass look like grass in a game’ instant classic 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Godlike review
I legit had to repeat that part to make sure I'm hearing it right 😂
You know we are on the cusp of next-gen when grass finally isn’t just a textured X in the ground.
😂😭😂😭😭
The Grass is the only good thing about it !! Waste of money IMHO ..Lol
“I like enemies to fear me”
*flashbacks to Halo and Grunts screaming and running away from the Demon”
*Flashback to DOOM
You know what’s cool turn the difficulty up on OG Xbox Halo and those grunts don’t run away screaming. Instead they will roll out of the way of the warthog dodging and everything. The higher difficulty settings changes A.I behavior totally blew me away and ahead of its time, I still don’t see this type of programming on today’s games!
There is nothing better than that moment
Playboi Thouxan I never actually got the vibe the demons were scared in Doom.
And the Jackles run with their hand on their head, when you destroyed their shield. Man the enemies in halo are so amazing, from each alien species. Different ranking, fighting style, and their reaction with the Chief.
20:06
Joel: Use the force Ellie.
I laughed so hard at this 😂😂😂
Me: Buy, Wait for Sale, Rent, Never Touch?
Everyone: Yes
"god should have used grammerly before writing their DNA"
Amazing writing
Grammarly
I literally thought the same thing. I love hearing this guy's reviews
"I'd love to hear you get mad over a videogame because it's vital... super important." 😂
lol we all jab one another sometimes
You can never rely on this reviewer when it comes to this game. Especially when his livelihood is involved. If he highly praised it his patreons would have been pissed and left him which he can't afford. So he plays it safe right in the middle
@@rayromano9876 i see. Getting mad over this game sure is vital and super important to you. 😂😂😂
@@rayromano9876 waaaaaa i'm complaining waaaaa
@@rayromano9876 Who you rely on then? Like, with that argument you can't rely on any reviewer that makes a living because some part of their followers will always get mad with them because there will be always people who disagree.
I liked this game but I can't count how many times I killed that one infected asian lady. Could they not have had a randomize character generator to switch up the ai?
The one with the white shirt? lol
I noticed her too, as well as I guy who I thought looked a bit like Joel
What they say is true I can't never tell them apart asains all look alike. Not racist it's just an American saying haha. I'm fact my wife is asain.
All the woman WLF’s also sound exactly the same to me. I felt like I was fighting the same girl over and over and she just couldn’t die
They used 900 Asian character models....
Abby: What's your name?
Joel: My name is Nathan and this is my brother Sam.
*END CREDITS*
Abby never asks for their name.
She asked Tommy tho....
Yah, and the way he died... Not the way she killed him, thats fine.
Could have told the same story and kept the character consistent with the version we knew of him from the first game.
Imagine: Joel gives her a fake name, then when Ellie calls him by his real name when she gets there. They knock Ellie out. Joel dies defiant and with his head high. Then Ellie thinks she is responsible, and transfers that guilt onto Abby.
Except they have no reason to lie. If you played the game you will find out that they when they find people on their patrols they actually Escort them to the settlement. Meaning introduction is something they usually do. Joel is more social here too as he spent most of his years in a settlement where his closely involved with unlike in the first game where he was usually a loner.
Exactly. Tommy had no reason to give a room FULL of unknown wolves their real names. That was the biggest no no. We're talking about a man who can smell an ambush a mile away. That wasn't the Joel I remembered.
20:06 did that house brick swerve mid flight so it would hit that guy lol.
Yes, yes it did.
Definitely lol
That's the patented Homing Brick™
I never got any of that in my playthrough but I never chucked bricks at people 20 yards away from me either. Maybe I should lol.
That's the first time I've ever seen the last of us pull something like that, lmao. Hitman throwables, amazing.
Cutscenes: drama
Gameplay: Rambo
Same goes for many many games.
Yep
@@tomsmolinski9833 yeah. and it fails in those games too
Which is fine when the game isn't beating you over the head with its message/theme.
Cutscenes: Rambo - first blood
Gameplay: Rambo 3
“Supplements let you learn new skills.”
Ah, so that’s why Abby’s so buff.
LOL
Get over it
Orlano Fanis no you
Also from being a man too
Lol no it's because she needed to strengthen herself in order to avenge her father's killer...basically that's the story of Batman lol
The companion AI is leaps ahead of what it was in the original game. I played it on Hard and had very few instances of immersion-breaking. In the prequel the companion would run in front of enemies but that rarely occurs here. Companions will also help you unexpectedly like stealthily taking out an enemy for you if you encounter a two-man patrol. Dina also does a solid job of mirroring your position when you're hiding too.
Tommy's voice actor really brought him to life
Totally agree. Tommy was awesome in this game
It would have been much better if post (Joel situation) we played some parts as Tommy and got to know him better, instead of being Abby.
You mean revived Tommy. Thought he died three seperate occasions. Abby's crew let him live, he fell off the bridge, got shot in the eye I believe lol
@@patrickbateman9115 he didn't fall off a bridge, just off the railing into the sea (and we all know if you don't see a body, it didn't happen ;P)... but yeah, I was definitely surprised by him surviving the theater. But also relieved, I gotta say, I can only take so much heartbreak.
@@joeinzinga6123 fr. He was the diamond in this rough game
"If it were a book, Tolkien would tap out at 500 pages"
Lother Avanti Tolkien wouldn’t have written it.
No love for photo mode or the ethics of humanity... damn🌸 LOU2 10/10 🌸
That was so funny.
@@cutwir3317 "Moral ethics" is a completely redundant term.
@@fraundakelmbrilpondaprost90 maybe to pretentious edgy white guys it is.
"if it were a book, Tolkien would tap out at about 500 pages" ooof
And that's saying something!
Second night in a row of me stopping because i thought i was almost done and instead i hit another self imposed mission. Jesus this game is long
@@jelaninoel yeah, not in the good way...
@@tawilk in a very good way, actually. people are just used to being able to 0-100 game in a few hours. the last of us was the same way. you can't just run through it.
@@sonnyankau9239 its padded
20:06 nice curve ball with the brick.
lol
Not only did Joel teach Ellie to swim, he taught her how to throw bricks and make them curve, Wanted style.
It's ridiculous what a statement of identity it has become whether you like this game or not. But I expected nothing less from you than a great review devoid of the bullshit, exactly as advertised, and you delivered as always. Your reviews continue to be second to none.
Best reviewer on UA-cam
If you make your game a matter of political identity, people will judge based o such identity
I second that.
@@giovannibrena3913 If you see representation of diverse kinds of people in games as some kind of a political statement, I pity you.
If you do NOT see it, then you are naive, And blind.
I don’t care. Politics really do not rule my life, but it is obvious based on the actual creators comments, combined with the game itself. Still enjoying it, though my eyes are open to what they are going for.
You really don’t give yourself enough credit, fantastically crafted review tackled in a great way. Despite the huge outcry, extremely heated, slur filled arguments and feuds, you’ve presented your likes and dislikes for the game respectfully . Thank you! Can’t wait for podcast - I haven’t stopped discussing how this game manages to be phenomenal and awful at the same time. I’m sorry you’ve been having a hard time with UA-cam recently, thank god for patreon.
I read somewhere that the last of us 2 is "the best worst game I have ever played". I think that is somehow true. It is to beautiful but somehow boring and tiring at the same time.
This is why I almost exclusively go to him for reviews. Usually takes a bit longer to get the review out but I know I can trust it.
I decided a while ago not to buy this game, or at least not to directly give my money to naughty dog, but I still wanted to hear what he had to say.
@@heinzbeinz So, you feel like the characters? ^^ I think it's fitting and I liked it a good bit.
@@heinzbeinz For me it became one of my favorite games. It's not for everyone and while I enjoy games that try to be for everyone I very rarely love them.
@@reed1645 you havent Played many Games , huh?
The Problem is Not that its Not for everyone, the Problem is the horrible wrtiting etc
“Supplements teach your new skills”. So one might say taking percs has perks
As a guitar player, I was so impressed with the fingering of chords and the movement of the picking hand. Guitars are in a lot of games in one way or another, and this is the only game I've ever seen that actually uses correct finger placement. The picking hand isnt perfect, but real close. They nailed it. This small part really mattered to me
You need to get out more not a reason to get the crap of a game.
You people are pathetic, he was just complimenting one technical aspect of the game but that's already a reason to call names and spread stupidity
That brick at 20:07 turned into a damn homing missile. ='D
Expected. Dumbed down gameplay mechanics for consoles.
I could be wrong but I think that's one of the options in the accessibility menu.
S R invisibility while prone is an option lmao. Homing bricks don’t even surprise me. Had to have a way for the games journalists to beat it.
Nobody knew that Ellie was secretly Sandy Koufax in a different life
@@klarnorbert Ah, yes. The PC version is much superior.
20:07 did that brick just HOMED IN on an enemy?
Since when did bricks became that smart?
Should I stop using "dumb as a brick" idiome?
That's an accessibility option turned on, but yeah makes zero sense.
Sentient.
Press R2, it is automatic targeted throw, 100% u will the enemy
Lmao I caught that too. That brick definitely curved 🤣
@@edgehodl4832 I know. But that scene right there is one of those immersion breakers. It is the way ti is because it was programmed that way. And it was programmed wrong.
What it should really look like is as if character predicted where the enemy movement and threw the brick where they would be, like a real person would. And it would be relatively easy to implement too since the game knows where AI moves and where AI would be by the time brick could reach them way in advance.
Instead developers used simpler, more straightforward approach that is detrimental to the immersion they tried to build.
The first game had that same quirk w/ the friendly AI. I believe that was an intentional design choice because they felt that having an NPC break your stealth felt worse to the gameplay than a bit of immersion breaking. I think I would probably have to agree. The obvious best case scenario would just be to make the AI better so that doesn't happen but that might not be feasible. I don't think I have ever seen AI that good in any game ever.
The best thing they could have done is exclude companions ingame altogether.
I agree with this, although I do believe Naughty Dog made some improvements with the friendly AI and enemy AI in their sequel. In the first, I was constantly saying "how did they not see that?" In the sequel, I was only saying that a handful of times. So, improvements, yes. Issue still there? Yes.
It’s true though. I was terrified at first that they could get caught and ruin a run, but watching them crouch sprint back to home directly in front of an enemy was both hilarious and terrifying
@@semvision Not really, considering this game series relies heavily on the relationship between characters. It would've just castrated it from a narrative standpoint. Also maybe it's because I played the game on hard, but companions mostly hung back during stealth sections, so I didn't really notice it all that much unless I went out of my way to just follow them with the camera.
the enemies can notice allies in this game and the ally will apologize when you get back to stealth.
Hey dude just wanna say, I wait for your reviews before I even think about buying a game.
This
The only name in game journalism I trust.
Skillup?
@@Exel3nce agreed
Maybe play yourself and see if you like it?
Mine are 9gag comments and memes.
@@pratyushanand2111 That costs money
Absolutely agree with the pacing problems. It was so jarring how the game throws you around the timeline constantly. I still enjoyed many parts of the game, but by the end, I felt like I’d just ran a marathon. Exhausted.
I couldn't have said it better myself. It's almost like they want you to play it in sessions 🤦♂️
Yeah i am just here in chapter select lol. Skip! 😂.
I felt like the flashback scenes were needed myself. They're used to break up the bleakness of it all.
If we go for just hours and hours of nonstop dread and death I think it would've been too much. As it stands the game already leaves you emotionally drained at times.
I think you just hit the nail on the head. I keep watching these reviews and wondering what they are talking about when it comes to pacing and repetitiveness. But I have been playing in 2 hour sessions when time permits. I’m about 14 hours in so far and enjoying it. I think breaks make this game better!
@@LovinLenin I think flashback scenes are nice. And they were usually the best moments in the game. But that's the problem. When the flashbacks are more interesting then the regular plot that's when things fall apart.
I know you were only putting for your personal feeling, but think "Wait for a Sale" is the most universal rating this game could get. I loved it. But it's certainly not for everyone.
I loved every second of this game too! It was a 10/10 for me and GOTY contender easily.
Scott Nunn The Christian Gamer most of them probably never even finished the game because they are too closed minded 🤷🏻♂️
I just finished this game as well and I absolutely loved it, I can see why people want to see this win game of the year. Personally though I would give Ghosts of tsushima the goty
Hey my man as always. You keep it real in your reviews. I’m so glad that we have somebody out there giving a honest review on this game. Thanks again man! Keep up the great work!
One of the few good reviewers you can trust on UA-cam. You don't have to worry about Karak sugar coating things out of fear of losing review copies from Sony.
The thing is, I don't believe that reviewers are rating 10 out of fear, but because this is truly what they want to review.
Its not a mechanically driven game, like dark souls or cuphead
Its filled with Sudo-intellectualism
Its good for morally standing to their journo friends. which lets face it, is who they write it for, rather than the demographic.
Oh yeah and its got good graphics
pageanator2000 Alanah, is that you?
I think it is fear. The game is politically correct...lesbian, super strong woman that beats up men, out of wedlock pregnancies, killing of all white men....it literally ticks every single box...if you don't give it a 10 then the mob will criticize your website/magazine into the ground.
@@Bmetalful Isn't the opposite what's currently happening? Reviewers give it at 10/10 and the mob, most of which never played the game in any significant amount, criticize them to the ground for pandering to Sony even though Alanah Pearce (ex-IGN staff) made a video providing insights that reviewers are more scared of the gaming community's response rather than the Publisher' (Sony's) response.
I think the pacing would of improved if most of the flashbacks were incorporated chronologically and cut 10hrs of mindless wandering around. The game doesn't need to be 25hrs.
Chronological order would have helped a lot. This was like playing Resident evil 2 as Leon then immediately being switched to Claire before even finishing the game.
100% agree. I have no issues playing as Abby and enjoyed her story. But the pacing of the story is all over the shop.
Shut up
YES
I actually had some great moments where teammates got some cool double or triple kills and I just watched. Pretty dope.
But, it’s either we laugh and have immersion broken by friendly companions out in the open, or they get us spotted and we rage. Which is worse lol
They did the thing with teammates on purpose. Its not fun when a character you cant control gets seen over and over.
It's certainly a compromise, but it's an easy one. Just because it works mechanically doesn't mean it doesn't break immersion. There can be other solutions.
That same problem existed 7 years ago. It's actually really pathetic.
@@robrick9361 idk,i find it funny
@@robrick9361 can you name a game that has good Ally ai?
@@williamgrimm1353
None exist that's why smart designers never incorporate them.
I played this game with headphones, sound design was on poooint!
I would give the game a 7,4/10 and the audio design a 10/10. They really nailed that, but only that lmao
Its a ten for me.
The audio design is insane indeed. Explosions and heavy weapons really get the subwoofer moving.
Definitely agree, you'd be missing out a lot if not played with a decent pair of headphones in my opinion, audio was outstanding.
I played it on headphones too, was a little let down. While I agree that the sound design is excellent, it constantly misled me on how near/far enemies are, or what direction they’re coming from.
I just finished this game yesterday. You nail everything on the head. The biggest issue with me was the pacing and the flash scenes. It just drag too long for me.
Unfortunately games have to be 30hrs plus nowadays because "gamers" dont want to pay full price for the best 10hr game ever
They shoulda made abbys story dlc
Darth Vader "Luke, I am your father"
Cut to Episodes 1-3.
6 hours later cut back to Darth vs Luke scene.
alex duffy you have to be a little kid 🤣
cirescythe i don’t think naughty dog felt pressured to make a longer game. It just feels like they genuinely thought that this length would be meaty or give the right impact. Tbf the narrative they were attempting doesn’t work unless there is a long enough journey to think back on. Ultimately the pacing suffered though. I don’t mind the diversions but just the gameplay filler bothered me most.
I absolutely loved this game but I agree that it drags and it feels like a marathon. Going to that area with Abby the first time and fighting a horde of enemies only to realize I'm still like an hour away was very demoralizing,it really did feel like they just threw encounters at you to pad things out. Your review is the best one I've seen so far extremely fair and and detailed on every front like always.
Awesome!!!
Seems like a fair review.
Also, cool Lionheart reference, I didn't know that! I saw the movie on VHS tape way back when I was a little kid and loved it :D
I felt like John Wick popping head shots and shiv kills on survival mode.
Noiceee
@Toxicity in some ways
@Toxicity I prefer part 2 :)
@Toxicity You're delusional if you think the stealth and gun play is better in the original.
John Wick's dog=Joel
4:07 _"The grass in the game makes other game's grass look like grass in games, if you get my drift."_
I do get your drift, and this is one of the most clever ways I've ever heard someone say _"these graphics are good"._ This is why I love you, Karak! Carry on!
Jordan Ghill the hell?
I agree the game was like 8 hours longer thn necessary, but as I think about it days after finishing it, I loved it.
I wish the game was longer haha
20:07 Look at that; a homing brick!
Does anyone still wonder why they threw the ball instead of running it?
I still do..... but then I start to think to myself "..... I miss sports..." 😪
Lmao. The seahawks will never get pass that blunder 🤣
Dude that one still hurts!
Hhahahahaha
They thought they were running with it. Imagine if they'd been good enough to pull it off (probably that'd made them smart enough not to do it in a sequel). I've recently read Abby's plot with supporting characters, still a divisive character, but NOT divisive writing.
Think of Watchmen. It blew comics' world back then. It also resulted in some authors and editors who really didn't get why it worked, thinking all was in the deconstruction tropes, and applying that to existing characters and settings. Went about as well as you can expect, you really can't deconstruct things that actually fit within the very work they are from. Yet deconstructing this game seems easy enough. Cycles of revenge? Tell the mooks' families.
It's really a shame when you find yourself saying "This is just a depressing slog" about a game you've waited years for. Just started Abby's section and I don't know if I've got the will to play the game to the end.
It's pretty rough, I beat it a few days ago and I will say, Abbys playthrough is pretty enjoyable just from a gameplay aspect. Id go through it just for that alone.
Jimmy Balch since you already bought it, you may as well, but it doesn’t really get any nicer.
Abbys section is ok until after the hospital sequence then it drags!!
@@BoxBeater I agree!
It starts slow (the warehouses aren't all that fun) but she honestly gets some of the best moments in the game.
I can definitely agree with you that it felt disjointed at times, but I never once had the thought “damn this is dragging on.” Gameplay and story wise, I couldn’t stop thinking about how excited I was to jump back in and see how everything was going to play out over the last week or so that I played. At one point I realized that I had a stark feeling about almost every character and was constantly analyzing their motives and decisions. This tells me just how invested I was and was the main reason I couldn’t get enough. I honestly loved this game and would recommend it to anyone no problem.
Even though leaks happened, a fair amount of people have avoided them and if they’re fans of the first I’d say it’s a buy, it’s long enough for the price tag and though strange In timeline placement, i think a fan would still play it as soon as possible
What gets me is that the leaks are fucking irrelevent.
Tons of games have leaks these days, but yet, they don't get hit by the mass returns, sale drops, and raw, undiluted hatred this game gets. They're usually just as beloved, if a bit worse selling.
@@TheDapperDragon Irrelevant? How in god's name can a leak that shows Abby bashing Joel's skull in with a golf club be irrelevant.. when in the game Abby bashes Joel's skull in with a golf club.
I don't think you know what irrelevant means.
@@Dxwill10 I think you missed his point.
@@Dxwill10 It was devoid of context. The context makes the game ,without it the choice breaks the game. People can be as pissed at the choice as they want but it isn't a pointless one like the leaks tried to convey.
@@Dxwill10 I don't think you do.
The *leak* is irrelevant. No one was mad at DMC5 because it had leaks.
What the leak showed, AKA, the story, is the problem.
This review feels honest. It wasn't overly negative just because that's what's popular. Good review.
As somebody who admittedly loved the game, his criticisms were all spot on and my biggest problem with the game was also the pacing and length
The game as a game is great. The actual playing (control, visuals, sound and all) is great. The problem is the story is such a massive portion of the series that when that falls on its head, it overshadows and outweighs the rest of it, unfortunately. I spent almost all of Abbys section being annoyed to be her, and waiting to become Ellie again that I could not enjoy the actual gaming, combat and exploration itself...
When I became Abby I speed run the game with cut scene to get back to the theatre scene.
Always some excuse for you fanboys because you can't admit that the majority of people dislike the game.
@@simonrodgers2375 "Majority of people dislike the game."
I think you'll find a vocal minority dislike the game.
Great visuals, acting, music and fun gameplay. The issue with the game is that it is a huge hit or miss story-wise for many players, me including. This doesn’t take away any of it’s amazing strengths. It’s just that the story was very disappointing to me.
Thats what most people think, including me. I would give it a 4.5/10
That's unfortunate. I loved the story personally but it's not for everyone.
@@reed1645 same i thought the story was aweszome
Love the levelheaded review and I have to agree that the story is very divisive. For me, it’s a miss and because the huge impact the story has over the whole experience, I would be inclined to give it a low score. But to each their own of course.
@@reed1645 it is , its Just a written mess
Unfortunately, I agree with most of what you said. The game kind of left me cold. However, I completely disagree about the AI partner not getting seen when they are standing out in the open. That would have been infuriating!
I actually really loved playing this game. I consider Last of US part 1 a masterpiece and I did not like Part 2 any less than Part 1. I enjoyed the heck out of it.
I wanna be all aggressive and say you did not find any problems, it story sucks and blah blah, but then I keep telling myself that dude, everybody has different perspective, just coz you have problems doesn't mean everyone should have them.
I liked this one more than the first one. The story was great until the 80% mark but overall I felt like it was ok.
Honestly, this is a game that's meant to be played in sessions over the course of a few weeks. It's almost structured like a season of a TV show where something big happens at the end of an episode, and you're supposed to take a few days to digest it.
It's just waaay too exhausting to try and binge it.
Totally agree with you here. I think the game is amazing and I'm currently playing through it a 2nd time. It took me 6 days to play through it whereas pretty much every other game I was this excited for only takes maybe 1 or 2 because I'm wanting to binge it so fast. I didn't segment my gameplay on purpose, it was because I was exhausted emotionally and I felt like my experience gained much benefit from taking time to digest major story beats over several days.
I agree. I play a lot of games now like this.
I played it every day for 6 days, clocked in over 30 hours as a casual but consistent playthrough. Thoroughly enjoyed it despite it being too long played in this manner. The game played on my heart strings, I pretty much smiled, laughed, cringed, and cried my way through it. Some other reviewer said it's a depressing game. Maybe that's why it hit home so hard with me. There were times I felt like writing a love letter to Naughtydog for an amazing technical achievement.
How I'm doing it ,play a few hours ,skip a few days ,cyber better be good ,I'm getting tired of let downs in gaming
slick rick Well it probably won’t be. Game gets delayed 3 times, usually it’s not for good reasons...
I really liked Days Gone's story. Especially the set up for the next game if we get one. The people that didn't like TLOU2's story would probably like that ones.
wkadalie that’s so true .. that worlds so beautiful to honestly.. I think I like it more then lou2
I think tlou2 does a good job at exploration and level design than days gone, even though its linear, i think anyone can agree that those notes you find and enormous amount of detail are the best aspects of the game. The notes are so well written.. its just a matter of opinion, i kinda liked it more than days gone but i enjoyed days gone more than tlou2.
Umm mind explaining to me how everyone and their grandparents ride around in choppers
I just got the platinum on Days Gone. I finally decided to buy it, considering the mess that TLOU2 appears to be and the fact they've spent a year updating and patching up Days Gone.
It was AWESOME. Anyone who even has a passing interest, I say do it! Just know that it does not make a great first impression, there is jank in the cutscene (not gameplay - the gameplay is really tight, I might suggest using the "small" deadzone setting and dialing your sensitivities to taste).
The world is gorgeous and detailed, the gameplay loop is fun, and the hordes are like playing Dead Rising except every zombie is Usain Bolt.
Days Gone is the real TLOU2
The Ai seems to get better and more dynamic as you raise the difficulty level which is actually pretty good. One thing that I dont like about the Ai, because it seems unrealistic is the fact that on the highest difficulty enemies have PERFECT aim when you’re running at them at close to mid ranges.
$30 on PSN right now Black Friday deals. Guess I'll reluctantly get it now that it's half off if only for the gameplay.
I bought it too!
And yes for the gameplay
@@funnymouth641 Nice. Enjoy and stay safe.
@@SaberisloveSaberislife thanks man !,you too
Glad to hear a straight up review god I'm tired of people going over the top in each direction and not getting to the substance
That terrible ending though......
What a let-down....
@@EraserTraceur wasnt terrible at all. It was closure
@@Mariomario-gt4oy agreed. I was expecting a terrible ending by all of the hyperbole that had been flung around by some people on the internet but Ellie's choice at the end made a lot of sense with how much she'd gone through and the state Abby was in.
@@Revealingstorm. exactly. Elllie Felt guilty for not reconciling things fully with Joel. The theme around guilt, regret and hatred is really done amazingly well and realistic for the most part. Felt like I wanted them to just stop and was exhausting by the last fight and that was on purpose.
You'd probably also enjoy Noah Caldwell-Gervais' take on the game if you're looking for a review that gets to the substance.
Can’t wait to play TLOU Part 3. We’ll play half the game as a thug’s son, who’s father was killed by Abby.
And the thug is half horse who identify as whamen... 😆
lee leanhan wow man so funnnyyy and original
Cian Farrell it really is loool cry tears
Maybe we'll get to play as that dead dog's great aunt and eat the rest of Ellie's hand.
There won't be another game in this universe. This game absolutely destroyed Ellie as a character, and killed Joel directly. They will probably release a DLC about Lev and his sister, and they're initial escape, that's about it.
This must have been one of the most difficult reviews you’ve have to do knowing how split ppl are about the game and how the game was spoiled a month ago. Keeping it supper free as much as you could...that’s impressive. Great job as always bro!
Finished it last night.
We're spoilt nowadays. Its fucking epic. The amount of times my brain thought I was in an actual survival situation, then finaly getting through it with fossilised primal instincts and finding my jaw was on the floor. Yes its a bit bloated, pun intended, but playing at my own pace it was a great journey. I know its not faultless, mainly regarding the human enemy ai - but I think the cinematic encounters and brutal gameplay are easily worth the price tag. Fascinating how differently people receive it though.
You can come to this channel and get good reviews and comments. Much respect.
Part 1 had the exact same thing about your buddy AI when it comes to enemies. It doesn't make sense but in the end it is the only way they don't constantly find your AI teammate. But this was majorly prevalent in part 1
It was way worse in 1. It's close to fixed in 2.
They could have easily change the companion ai into a command mode. Other games have it and works great. You can command you ally to stay in the same spot or to come closer to you under cover.
But no, they kept mainly the exact same mechanics. So this game doesn't really feel it was under work for so many years. I don't find anything amazing or innovative about the graphic or mechanics...and let's not start about the worst part...the story
Play in Survival, those AI are realistic asf. If they hear some bottle that you step on.. they will immediete know where you are.
@@jetthejudge Of course it's better in the second game. There's a 7-year difference between the two. It'll be weird if it was still the same. ND isn't Bethesda.
It's the same in the "Uncharted" games too^^
I really like this guy's reviews, found this channel while choosing between Disco Elysium, Deadfire, Tyranny and Divinity OS2 (which sadly he didn't review).
This channel deserves at least the 1M subs.
...So what'd you choose? ;)
@@daddygrasshopper Disco, but I haven't finished yet lol
@@oj3730 Nice, hope you are enjoying it. It is on my ever-growing list of "I wanna play this..."
@@daddygrasshopper it's really good, I'm just lacking the time to play it
I respect ACG’s reviews a lot. You can tell he’s very passionate about gaming but having played and finishing the game. For me personally it’s nothing short of a masterpiece. Never as a game got me feeling this many emotion’s from fear to down right feeling uncomfortable. I understand the cons with the length of the game and the “padding” but the so called padding parts of the game was necessary to find and collect resources and explore the many derelict buildings plus many interesting character interactions. Which I never felt like a chore. The games combat and mobility it’s greatly improved on the original which for me felt stiff and limited. Yes the length could of been shorter yes the story could of gone in a different direction. But the flashbacks for me only got me caring about the characters more gave me a back story to them. I personally loved the space shuttle scene. The set pieces are amazing. The graphics the music score both amazing. Voice acting and the emotion in the characters faces is some of the best of seen if not the best. I could go on and on. But I feel people are not appreciating how great this game is because the way Joel died or the story direction in which you play as Abby. But to say this is a wait for sale as much as I respect ACG’s opinion i have to utterly disagree. Is the game perfect? No but for me it’s a beautifully crafted masterpiece in which will take a long time to beat.
completely agree with you, the game is a masterpiece
Agree!!
Completely agree
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What sucks is that this game doesn't give me "I can't wait to go home and play this game!" Feeling. Sure there are moments that hit me emotionally but so far I get bored quick and I never thought I would say that about a Naughty Dog game.
Well, it gives me that feeling and more... I actually find this game more compelling to play over the first
I ended it and i started it again. Never did that with other game in my entire life.
Same, very boring. I don’t even remember it when at work. And that says a lot about a game for me.
Every time I thought I finished an Abby section, hoping to get back to being Ellie then realising I am still Abby, a piece of me (my excitement and love for the game) died.
Bet RDR 2 was boring to you too huh?
Finally! Been waiting for your review to come out before getting it, now, I'll wait for a deep deep sale.
It's just a movie.
Go rent it out UA-cam 😂
@@davidlegkodukh6969 exactly, wait till it hits a redbox type of price. 😂
I hear every time you buy it used from gamestop, Druckman cries on a golf ball as he watches a woman bench twice his bodyweight.
@@DaveFu 4 million copies in 3 days and the fastest selling ps4 exclusive ever... i guess he has the currency to dry those tears lol
@@reed1645 He blatantly lied in the trailers and Game reveal and Joel was alive always and Abby was never revealed.
Naughty Dog Lost My Trust
you're probably the only big reviewer who waited to be able to talk about Abby's levels and part of the story, congrats
The Last of Us has always been a single player narrative. I still found the the sections they built in this game were so much larger than the first. True they only have one open worldish area akin to The Lost Legacy but the path they want you to follow is why you play their games. You are playing a narratively driven single player experience not an open world so I don’t think that should be a complaint personally 🤷🏽♂️
I love that ND made such a challenging narrative and personally I think this game as much a masterpiece as the first even if emotionally the first left me happy and this one made me bawling like a baby lol. I also did not find pacing issues myself, I liked the out of order narrative and it helped flesh out the emotional depth of the characters pulling back the curtain bit by bit.
Also the enemy AI is insanely hard if you played through survivor mode, which is the only mode I think both games should be played on and with no listening mode. Took me 33 hrs to beat this game on my first playthrough
Great review as usual even if I disagree with you take on the game Karak 👍🏽
I enjoyed this game quite a bit. It's kind of reverse from the first game where the gameplay and encounters carried the game more than the story for me this time around.
I actually found the level design incredibly rudimentary and the gameplay couldn't decide if it wanted to be uncharted or tomb raider or resident evil or the last of us
That's what I liked about it. I loved the jumping, climbing and rope physics. The first game was so dull. It was just shoot, sneak, boost me up! Shoot, sneak, boost me up! I also thought the aspects of revenge, redemption, and good vs evil had much more depth than the "go from point A to point B" plot the first one had.
The ally AI thing was something that I've grown accustomed to in Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy where they literally walk past an enemy yet still somehow invisible. It happened to me less often here though but I really wish that would've been fixed totally.
Though still not great, the companion AI has been improved leaps and bounds compared to the previous TLoU and Uncharted games. In my games, they'll actually make an effort to get out of sight of approaching enemies.
And I could have sworn sometimes when I pushed too far with my companion, then fall back afterwards, the enemies actually spotted my companion which broke the stealth. Best part was, after all the enemies were killed, my companion actually apologized for it.
Don't they do this purposefully though? I know it can be a bit immersion breaking when your companion is clearly in the line of sight of an enemy but it would be more aggravating if you're sneaking around and each time your companion is spotted all hell breaks loose. AI just isn't good enough to work as its own body yet
@@Bakalar I would agree it's a lot better than TloU1. There's a few nice touches like they stop suddenly (nicely animated) when a clicker does its loud clicks or if you're crouched and move along cover the companion will shift and hug the cover tighter in order for you to pass. There's only been a couple of times I've felt the companion really stray out into an area that broke immersion where in the first game they'd often run around like a mad person.
A lot gets talked about next gen' graphics but honestly AI in all games are pretty crappy (let alone companion AI) it's something I'd rather devs concentrated on going forward.
@@Hoopla10 It will be interesting to see if the next generation improves on AI. I wonder what is currently holding it back. The hardware? For now unjustifiable effort in development?
@@CluelessMarvin It's presumably a mix of both. Alien Isolation is probably the best developed AI tree(s) this gen and that only had to focus on one NPC (the Alien). If we want all NPC to behave realistically then it takes more computational power. Plus it takes energy and work to develop, which costs money. It's hard to sell a game on AI when pretty graphics do a better job. But we must be reaching a point of reduced benefit of visual fidelity when even TLOU2 (a this gen' game) looks really good. We saw in the Unreal Engine 5 tech demo where this is probably heading and it actually benefits development pipelines rather than overwhelms them. So hopefully a lot of publishers will start looking in other areas of development to showcase their new games. Because done well it'll not only influence every part of a game it could entirely revolutionize all games going forward.
Idk what difficulty you were on, but on survivor, NPCs will spot your partner and shoot them, but you will remain in stealth
Christ, well that's one way to bump up the difficulty 😅
Survivor is so crazy lol
Hey Karak, You play with headphones connected to ds4 or speakers ?
On the enemies highest setting you can still run through some levels and skip it altogether. In some cases it's easier to run through than trying to sneak or fight through. This is one game I will not play through again. The playable cutscenes took the fun out of it, and they got annoying after a while.
True
You can run through dark souls lol
apart from the last mission survival is really tough getting up the stairs
One of the reasons why factions was so necessary too, once you got used to the game's ai it was pretty easy. This game being entirely single player though, the difficulty isn't there. I'm doing survivor+ right now, and even though I thought I would have to sprint through sections where I got caught and be out of ammo... I really don't. You can still take 4 to 7 bullets (I play with the health bar off) and lose line of sight on enemies like a batman game, while keeping some guns fully stocked on ammo for emergencies.
The challenge in the first game came from playing online against people, it was beautiful because unlike other games where they design it to play a certain way so it gives the game a certain feeling and then people just do what they want (battlefield games with 60% snipers and people using helicopters and jets as personal taxis)... TLOU is a survivor game where the more players scrap together "whatever works" to try and survive online, the more they try to exploit, the more immersive the game is. TLOU Factions was the game representation of the majority of online gaming, making playing online with randos feel as immersive as joining up with a sim battalion on arma because that's just how people play when left to their own devices.
My review score of this game is truly represented by Ellie playing guitar at the end of the game. Something's missing that makes it not worth playing.
*"It drags on like no other title I can remember in my life. If it were a book, Tolkien would tap out at about 500 pages."*
Yet another golden example of why I subbed to this channel. I'm not the gamer I used to be (2007-2012 was when I was consumed by games, mostly COD), but what I really appreciate is the wit you put into your videos. Even if I've never played the title and maybe have no interest in ever touching it, I can always find something in your reviews and other videos to enjoy.
To me, I felt Seattle (E) Day 1, Abby at the Aquarium, Ellie at the Museum were the best portion of the entire game. I thought the tangents were the best part of the game. I've always said Naughty Dog make better games in the portions not focused on shooting and stabbing. I thought it was fantastic and one of the top 5 or 6 PS4 games.
I totally agree about the order. I think the controversy could have been completely avoided had they marketed the game as a new story for an entirely new character. “Abby”. Then maybe tease Joel and Ellie in a release trailer. Then play as Abby in the beginning, learn her motivations and attitudes then reveal that it was Joel who killed her dad and it was he who she had been looking for the whole time finally finding him. Swapping to Ellie mid game. Finding out she is on a revenge quest and realizing she’s avenging Joel. The order and pacing that killed it for me, not the story choices per se.
I was fine because it was obvious Joel dies from the very first trailer, remember we all thought he would be a memory or flashback before gameplay ever game out
@@nichenetwork9817definitely no we
I've been waiting for your review of this game. Appreciate your no-BS approach. Thanks!
You sir, are a fantastic game reviewer. In depth and everything. I have major respect for your opinions because you break the game down in many areas to give us a better understanding of what we're gonna get.
The whole "AI stands and enemies don't see them" was something very present in the first game as well. And we all should be thankful for it. Imagine having a non playable character breaking your stealth, it'd be a nightmare.
Why have an AI partner if the partner is absolutely useless and incompetent?
AI is much better in this game. I went back and played the first one again after finishing the second and I can't tell you the amount of times a character got in my way, resulting in an enemy being alerted.
As opposed to the other, far immersive option of not having a useless immersion breaking companion at all. Or have them wait much further back (beyond your line of sight) until you clear out an area (if it's an escort mission (entire first game)).
Or, and god forbid, spend some actual time and money to improve the AI. We've got AIs today that are barely smarter than Half Life's.
For me they are just there to break monotony and deliver world building dialogue, I don't mind them as gameplay companions, it's fine that they don't help much.
Thankfully you put this video out. I was waiting for your take, considering how impossible it was to get a level head look into the overall product from everywhere else. I was worried you were gonna sidestep this review when I saw your video the other day. Thank you.
I actually had the opposite happen with my ai. I was hidden and for some reason the ai was two moves behind where I was and he ran right into the path of an enemy and got spotted.
Dina got me spotted TWICE. She apologized afterwards which was really cool
Same. Dina got me spotted at the news station. They even coded dialog for that. When they spotted me after catching Dina, they said “Its more of them”
I'm surprised you didn't mention the 'open world' section in Ellie's Day 1. In my opinion, that's probably the best work Naughty Dog has ever done and it really made me want a fully open world game from them. Finding the music shop, breaking into the bank, etc. Those were probably the best moments in the game.
A lot of the areas were phenomenally immersive so just to imagine an open world game with exactly how it is that would be absolutely amazing. Dying Light is the only one close to something like that, but I love the emptiness and a lot more gritty how TLOU is.
@@SugarW1thC0ffee I agree, I was constantly astonished with the amount of work that had gone into every area I passed through. The semi-open world bit I loved but how you balance that with narrative if you expand it out even further where you're no longer in full control of how the player moves around the map. I thought Horizon Zero Dawn was excellent and loved the story but it sort of fell victim of that problem where only very clear sections the story/narrative is fed to you.
Great gameplay, sounds and actor performances, perfect atmosphere and good story with some flawed executions.
Uncharted was ~6 hours. Uncharted 3 was ~10. The Last of Us was ~13. Uncharted 4 was ~18, The Last of Us 2 is ~25. I think all of those games are amazing. But I think they have a sweeter spot back down at the 15 mark. Part 2 is definitely a longer story than 1. But much of it is that you traverse more land, whereas the first game gave you brief vignettes of the journey. Uncharted 4 was similar compared to the earlier trilogy. I really like Naught Dogs gameplay, but I think their structure works better with a shorter run time. Part 2 felt dragging to me when Ellie or Abby were by themselves. Too many grassy streets in those sections, with no good dialogue with a companion to bounce off.
Facts! I can't see myself going back to this and Uncharted 4 because they're too long and the pacing is off.
Part 2 is multiple stories from different people.
20:43 That’s an intentional design choice. It was in the first game too. Admittedly it’s immersion breaking but it’s basically necessary if you want to conserve supplies. Good review my man.
Imagine if they included a setting where you could turn on super realism where enemies can see your enemies realistically.
If the AI was better...it wouldn't need to done at all
@@wackosaco7369 even though it isn't perfect, the higher difficulties make your companion way more trackable by enemies.
Well done review. Personally, I disagree with the pacing / story issues. I was enthralled nearly every minute and was along for the ride. However, I did experience some moments where I didn’t want to do something or I felt exhausted with the game. In reflection, I think these moments are intentional for the sake of the emotional beats ND wanted you to feel. Now, some gamers may not like this experience and it may not be for them, which I appreciate. For me, it worked. It worked so well I played it immediately a second time. It’s my #1 game of all time. Thanks for your review. I always wait patiently for your takes.
Sounds like when people said that Death Stranding was "boring on purpose"
Not at all. Naughty Dawg had a story to tell and didn’t compromise that vision. I can understand that it’s not for everyone. It happened to be right for me.
I'm with you. I think I'm nearing the end (Seattle Day 3 with Abby) and I've been on the edge of my seat the entire time.
@@toolshedvideo Death Stranding isn't boring though. That's just how some people translate "delivery man" and "walking simulator" which I guess is what you COULD boil DS down to in the simplest terms, but it's so much more than that. Every game with a human avatar has walking and traversal. Death Stranding gamefied the basic act of walking, making traversal at all stages engaging.
As for TLOU2, I've played it now 6 times and got the plat on my 2nd run. I don't find this game exhausting at all. The audiovisual presentation is unparalleled, and I'm a PC gamer. The gameplay, while not perfect, is fantastic and fluid. Overall, I find the combat encounters to be thrilling(I'm playing on Survivor+) and just a few mechanics shy of being a perfect hybrid of stealth/melee/and gunplay. My GOTY so far, and certainly one of the best games of the generation.
@@toolshedvideo funny thing is even before the game came out the devs said exactly that, it will work for some and not work for others so they know exactly what they were doing, and they nailed their visions.
I love that I can rely on you for solid and unbiased reviews. Thanks, man. I'm gonna try to wait for a sale but I'm itching for a good single player game lately so I'll probably end up picking it up in the next few weeks or so.
Thank you so much for rating this as a finished product and not just your opinion on the story like everyone else! This is how you do a review!
Although I personally enjoyed the story very much I really appreciate the way you do your reviews! Very professional and unbiased
During this last console generation the tilt within the audience and industry is that a fantastic narrative can elevate a game. If that's the case, then we must also accept that a sufficiently flawed narrative can drag an otherwise incredible game.
I believe that's what has happened here. As much as I love the gameplay and as much as I'm impressed with the technical quality, the story we're dragged through is too flawed and miserable for me to enjoy the vast majority of my time with it.
Some people will certainly enjoy it, but, for me, I think it's a game that both myself and _The Last of Us_ would be better off without.
"a sufficiently flawed narrative can drag an otherwise incredible game"
Bingo.
I never liked any of the post Jack and Daxter games from Naughty Dog because it felt like they were trying to not be videogame developers. If the hook for your product is that it's a very restrictive linear narrative, then the quality of that narrative has to be top notch.
Beautifully said 👌
I agree, the world was a better place without part 2
I love watching your reviews of games that I've already played. The way you break things down often makes me go "Aha! That's why I felt the strange mix of emotions that this game left me with."
I enjoy your reviews, and your rating system, it has always made sense to me, and is a great way to look at what the bottom line is when I decide to maybe purchase a new game. Thanks as always.
The problem with this game and it's predecessor is they used the same game mechanic from the first five minutes of Far Cry 3, that Ubisoft only saw fit to use as a tutorial and stretched it across the entire game for 25 hours.
idk dude. fc3’s formula was good at the time but it’s so tired and overused now. I prefer the ND formula but I completely get that it’s down to preference at this point.
I personally liked the game so much that I have finished it and started it again with the newg+ on a harder difficulty level. It's a great game for me, I really enjoyed it.
What do you think about the story, i think it has a lot of pacing problems, and some characters ,are out of character decisions, some characters the games wants you to like are completely unlikable.
Yeah, I liked it too, just got the platinum for it yesterday. The only problem I had with the game was the length; to me it should have been a few hours shorter.
@@randomnerd3402 Manny was the only character that I didn't quite like. Mel I was indifferent about but other than those two I came around to actually caring for each of the characters presented. I really loved the dynamic between Abby and Lev it reminded me of Joel and Ellie in the first title, the way Lev humanized her character and softened her rough edges
RandomNerd RightHere the game never wants you to like or dislike someone. They want that to be your own personal opinion. They present it. You choose to do what you want with it. Look at Joel from the last of us. He lost his daughter so we’ll instantly feel sympathy for him. Not because they want us to but because as humans we would normally. But at the end, he kills the doctors, stops any potential for a cure and lies to Ellie about it. What do you feel about him then. Again the beauty. The absolute beauty Of the last of us is it’s not designed to force you into feeling a way. It’s up to you to decide what you feel
@@randomnerd3402 some Characters? You mean all of them ... Well, maybe Not Tommy
Test the AI in grounded mode, instead of normal with all your assistance options. The AI is impressive and ruthless
It's hard for me to review the story. I think some of the events/motivations leading up to the conclusion had me scratching my head. I honestly wish I could've played the whole time as Ellie. I thought she was interesting as she grew darker and more tormented as the body count kept mounting....
I'm right now playing as Abbey and I just don't find it as interesting. Maybe the gameplay is wearing on me....lol.
@Matty C. I'm playing the game now and have just started playing as Abby and I really wish I wasn't. It feels very jarring, having spent many hours settling in with Ellie's character and being invested in her and now all of a sudden I'm playing her arch enemy. I've carefully avoided watching, reading or listening to anything about this game up to now but I just had to look up how long I'll be playing as Abby....and am really fed up at the answer. It's made me want to stop playing.
@@Out_on_a_Limb_Life dont stop, itd amazing. I Love Abby and her chapters.
@@Out_on_a_Limb_Life You shouldn't, Abby's part doesn't last that long (probably because of the way she plays, namely more action-oriented), and the ending justifies splitting the narrative, even though it doesn't feel like it at the time
Karak will keep it real, let's just wait........
I agree with everything you said. It does have pacing issues, and I feel the story should have been sequenced better. It feels like they went for shock over coherence, which I think did not serve the story well, and only added to the drag.
That said, I'm still glad I bought it. I think it's a game I appreciated more than I enjoyed, but I am glad I played it.
I had a similar experiece. Although i can't help but feel like TLOU2 will be a game we'll look back in 5 years with potentially most of us thinking we over reacted and that the game was better that we gave it credit for. I went into it feeling sour because of the leaks so I don't entirely trust my rating of it.
The game is coherent though? Outside of the beginning and segments, you play Ellie over 3 days, with a flashback at the end of each day, then you play as Abby and iirc there's a flash back at the end of each day. Each days flashback gets closer to the present. It's honestly not than complex.
Seal seriously, it’s shocking when the perspective switches to Abby, but then it literally says “SEATTLE DAY 1” and it’s very clear you’re gonna play all 3 days, and the flashback structure was already set up during Ellie’s portion
You like buff chicks eh
If those whistles are consistent, it shouldn't take long to learn what they are doing if you can see what the reaction is to each different whistle.
It’s $20 right now on sale. That’s a pickup