Bro thank you for not going off on tons of (personable) tangents and vomit inducing "creator" content that wastes 10 minutes of a video and just getting straight to the freaking point with absolutely nothing extra added. It is so damn refreshing to finally watch videos the way you do them. I literally can not stand all the stupid intro videos woth channel animations and all that lame ass content creator garbage. It is so easy to watch your videos from start to finish and just want to point out how enjoyable it is.
Just a few notes as I have built this (previous to the video). My max fly time so far is around 15 min and in that I covered 8 miles (in circles). Truth is I could have gone another mile easy- this was just cruising so your milage may vary. The peak amp draw on mine was 80 amps for a lift off which the 60a speedybee did fine but you won't want to do that continous- the lift off generated 10g force so this really does get up and go. The most important fact- this is a 4 pound beast and crashes are nasty. Do not fly as your first build unless you got at least a football field of space around you as it will do serious damage while going 100 mph.
@@fabian99688 for the 7 inch I used the ysido. it worked fine for me, but I wouldn't recommend it any more because it doesn't support servo control. I'm going with speedybee now
Good advice about making sure the capacity will fit where you want it. The shorter you can keep your capacitor leads the better protection it will provide. Solder you cap as close as practical to the power pads. Thanks for all the great suggestions in parts. I'm only seven minutes into the video so I haven't decided if I will build one or not. I'll need to see how long your flight times are before I decide.
You mention thread locker around ten minutes in. The first time I built my own quad, I didn't use thread locker. When I took the drone for the first test hover in my backyard, it looked like my drone was dripping wet. The "drips" were really screws falling out. Fortunately I managed to land before any of the motors came detached. I also like to use connectors on my motors. I like to have connectors for all the components since I like to experiment with different parts a lot. I use a lot of MX1.25 connectors since these are available both in male and female versions. I used to use standard 0.1" Dupont connectors but these are too big to be practical in a lot of my builds. Thanks again for all the great suggestions.
I think this is exactly what I'm going to do as a first build. I can hear it now: 10" for a first drone???!!! I have long grass all over the place, so unless the price of props suddenly skyrockets, I can afford to break a few sets. Honestly, you had me at versatility. I still don't know which direction I want to go in this activity, but it's probably something like long range exploring. I like the idea of stability, and stealth. And I love the fact those massive motors can be practically idled and it'll still fly. This could be a heavy lifter if need be, or a loitering platform. Ya, thanks for this video, my mind is finally made up!
It's crazy I built a 7" and been hooked ever since. Built a 8 skipped 9 and now I'm gonna build a 10.... I may build a 10" x8 I wanna build a monster this time. I'm definitely gonna a take advantage of the conflict pricing thats out there.I barely fly my 5"anymore I just like the way a big quad flies. So I'm sure I'm gonna love this video. I haven't watched it yet but I can't wait...
@@ΟρθόδοξοςΘεός I already got a mark 4 seven inch so I'll probably stick with that to be honest. Just cause it's cheap and I already have a lot of hardware for the mark4 platform. I'd like to run 8s so my esc will probably be the most expensive piece. 70 or 80 amp and I'm thinking 3115 size motors. I love the way a big quadcopter flies. Can't wait...
@@VinydFPV Do you know of any sources of information on how to build x8 drones from AliExpress? UA-cam videos or websites etc? If you recorded the process of making an x8 one and posted it I'd love to watch it.
10 inch is way to go. I was lucky to get exactly the same 10 inch Mark 4 clone for around $110 on blackfriday. Quiet, powerfull, accepts 3S-6S lipo or liion.
I was inspired by your 7 in build. Kept the clone frame, motors, props, vtx... but did a speedybee stack f4 60A with baro, betafpv superD true diversity receiver, my own red tpu 3d prints, hglrc gps + compas, foxeer 4 lolipop short sma antenna, and a iflight racecam r1 laying around.
Also clasps or “extra hands” helps or that thumb gum that don’t dry up.. that’s good too .. Crucial. Life is Easier with Pre-Fluxed Tin. Also flux paste or pen… Tweezers. A non flammable mat to work on top of. A box/space to put your unfinished work so your house don’t look like a hoarders.. Did I miss any SETUPS? If no thread lock! The 99 cent Home Depot pipe thread tape helps too! Or both 🤯 LANYARD!
Good vid. Did look at these, would be good to see this frame tested properly especially with such thin arms, loaded up and dive tests would show wobbles, frame resonance and prop wash handling better.
For a GoPro mount, use the one from the Foxeer Aura 10. It fits perfectly. The mount for the Rekon 7 fits as well with a bit of heat and stretching. (I don't know what happened to my original comment so I left it again.)
Thanks I will try to see if I can find a stl for the Aura 10. I tried making my own 3d print (can briefly be seen in the failed ESC crash) but I didn't like it
@@hoardersam10 I can't remember if I got the prints for mine off of Foxeer's website or printables or thingiverse, but it was one of those 3 places. They're certainly available. I'm almost positive it was from Foxeer's website.
Just got all the parts for this build, and the 3.5 build as well. goofed up and got the 7 inch frame instead of the 10 on accident, so I guess I'm building the 7 next 😅😅 good stuff dude. I've been wanting a drone for a few years now, and have been talking about it for awhile, it's cool the algo brought me here as it was kinda what I needed.
@@Ryan.RiveraI have the same experience, motors are very grindy and they overheat like crazy. Lots of oscilations too. I triedbi-directional d-shot, PWM filters and different presets on betaflight, but it's not helping a whole lot. Also, prop wash is pretty gnarly. I'm honestly a bit stumped since PID is an esoteric mystery to me. Please let me know if you find a way to solve this issue.
@ I got you. Chris rosser has a betaflight 4.5 tuning video I plan on following, his first step is to decrease the master multiplier to 0.5 and increase in increments of 0.1 until it flies decent for a quick and dirty tune. I haven’t tried followed his video yet bc I haven’t had time. But I was playing with the tuning last weekend and one thing I found helpful was turning the filter (on the 3rd tab, the one next to the rates tab there’s those 2 sliders) down to like 0.3-0.4, seemed to help with the motors being hot and sounding bad. But this only helped when I had a 1300mah Lipo on it, once I strapped on a heavier 4200 6s li-ion battery the motors started struggling again. I would check out Chris’s video of you want to try and tune, that’s what I’m going to do bc this thing absolutely needs a tune, idk how the hell Sam got his to fly on stock PIDs
@@MrBelegus also fyi the magnets in the motors were all coming loose and falling down almost out of the bell, I had to pick up some loctite super glue and glue them back down, super inconvenient but… we are working with a budget 10” here lol
OMG, I had built almost the exact same build, just with 3110 motors 900kv. I haven't gotten something setup correctly as I'm getting tons of jello in my analog system.
Next a 15 inch x class build? I would love too see it and do the esc on the arm. And just see what you'd come up with all my parts should be in for the 10 inch by the 28th
That sounds cool but I can't find a cheap x-class frame :( The iflight one is like $250. For now I ordered a 15-inch frame from 9imod but I'm not sure if its really designed as an x-class
Hey, could you please make a video of the frame assembly? Just so that as a beginner I can know what screw goes where. If not could you give me a guide for this frame please?
@aelsi1337 i have a pair of goggles I'm pretty sure I ordered that i haven't gotten yet and it's been almost a month at this point. I ended up having to order a pair from getfpv.
Dude AliExpress has gotten so much better over the past year or so, I order tons and tons of stuff off it and it is almost always no more than a week sometimes shorter sometimes a few days longer like 10 days. The days of waiting a month are long gone. Shipping should not hinder you at all anymore
hey Hoarder, i love your channel and every budget build you do could you possibly make a sub 250 build preferably 3 inch range maybe 3.5 inch if possible thank you.
I actually have one filmed but the 3.5" JMT frame I used is out of production :( I'm going to try to do another one with the flyfishrc volador 3.5 frame.
Just came across your channel and subscribed its great. Was wondering if this would work for taking baits out for surf fishing? Can’t justify buying a designated fishing drone for 1500 but at this price it wouldn’t be a catastrophic deal if it got lost. It would need to carry 1-2 lbs about 400 yds out. I am very familiar with building rc projects and flying inexpensive drones just don’t really know a lot about what the capabilities are on something like this.
Yes I think it would be a good choice to carry that kind of payload. I will say the frame is kind of small so it's hard to attach stuff to it. You may want to check this 9imod frame out, it's physically larger which makes it easier to add custom payloads and such. I bought one and I want to try to make a custom sprayer drone with it: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DeSvuI9
Honestly speaking I’ve been watching and building my own quads for about 4 years now ( within those 4 years I have only built 5 quads so I’m not a pro or anything like that) and a lot of times I’ve either lost track of how to build them from beginning to end or just completely forgot how to build or program them but I’ve been watching Joshua Bardwells for about 6 years now and although he’s absolutely one of the best informative quad builders/programmers I’ve watched his videos (even the videos he makes for beginners) I find a little hard to follow because at his level he does expect that the viewer has some understanding of what he’s doing so he tends to jump ahead and skip over some steps that I would like to see more of explanation of how (and why) he arrived at a certain point in the build. Nothing against him but sometimes I get lost and no matter how many times I review that particular section of the video I still am lost as to how he moved on to the next point but with your videos it’s made clear step by step with not too much “Tech-na-bable” which makes it far easier to understand. Thank you. I love and appreciate your build videos.💯💯👍👍🙂
@@Ryan.Rivera The motors I used in my build were 2212 920KV with 1045 propellers, I couldn't get a good P&D ratio, besides the drone couldn't handle the winds very well, so I left the I gain value at 0.8 and relaxing the I term reduced the cutoff value to 3 and this significantly improved the flight, the other sliders were as follows: D gain at 1.4, P&I gains at 1, feed forward gains at 0.8 and the master multiplier to 0.8. The final pid result was: p i d ff roll 45 63 42 95 pitch 47 67 47 99 Tell me if this configuration looks good on your drone
hi, great assembly. I ordered the same on Aliexpress. unfortunately the FC arrived with 5' settings could you give me your PID figures to have an eco and stable quad like you?
Any specifics on the new props and the current sensor? I’m about to build the original, just got all the parts in. This is awesome. Do you have an idea of how far the pocket’s signal can go vs the vtx? Your videos are awesome. Thanks for sharing. It’s been a lot of fun getting into this hobby so far thanks to you.
This is very, very cool. I'm wondering how you had a GoPro mounted for the takeoff with the failed ESC? From looking at 3D models available, I'm thinking that the existing STL for the Mark 4 5" GoPro mount can likely be extended to fit this frame? Thanks
I modified a stl I found and extended it to work with this frame, which ended up with me having to mount the battery at the bottom which is pretty sketchy. I'll see if I can post the STL up, but I'd do it at your own risk since the big battery on the bottom is a big safety risk
@@hoardersam10 Also another question - how is your Pinecil soldering iron? Do you have the V1 or V2, and would you recommend them? Does it matter that it isn't grounded/do you use the grounding screw? Thanks
@@joshthebuilder247 I like my pinecil, I stopped using my weller soldering station because the pinecil is just so fast. I think I have the V1 because I bought it years ago. I'm not sure about grounding, I just power it with my USB-C phone charger
Hmm, a 10 inch.... I like it! at 11:03, that wobbeling, was it caused by the FC or did you test your stick inputs?.... I would add a beeper with battery and a GPS to it.
I build the same drone with inav and it was very unstable. I am not sure what the issue :) I will try again following your video and try beta-flight. You dont use gps ?
I like this idea too. I wonder why it's not done more often, other than crashing on it. Still easy enough to fab some belly landing gear / bash guards.
I'm going to be putting one of these together soon. Do you have any tips or tricks on betaflight tuning for this or possibly your tune as a starting point? I was hoping to see it in the video but didn't know any actual tuning done in beta flight
I did a little bit of tuning - the very first hop on the sidewalk I had it at 0.5 master multiplier because I was scared the big quad wouldn't handle the default 5" PID. But it turns out it still works well, I bumpted it up to 0.75 and then all the way to 1.0 stock betaflight PIDs and I felt that flew great
Thanks for the video, I just ordered everything. Added a GPS though, imho it would be very unresponsible to go long range without it. I do have some questions which I hope you could help with: 1. I just ordered two Lipo packs of HobbyKing; 5000mAh, 6s, they are 'heavy'. Why did you not go with Li-ion since it would hold more energy per kg? 2. The braces in the frame seem to be very un aerodynamic, did you do anything to them to avoid too much prop drag? 3. I ordered a lollypop antenna for the VTX, however do you know which type of polarization should be used? Thanks!
1. Li-ion would be better but they are a lot more expensive compared to the 5000mah lipos. I'm going to try to make my own li-ion in the future 2. I just left them stock, I think the stiffness is more important than the drag 3. RHCP is the norm for analog systems, while digital systems tend to use LHCP
Hi Hoarder, Thank you for this video. I am inspired to build my first drone. I am ordering parts but don't see battery on your list. Can you suggest one I can use for 10" drone along with a link please?
Propeller efficiency increases with size (so the same amount of power will yield proportionally more thrust over time) this leads to longer flight times on the same battery. It also is able to carry more, so people put payloads on 10” quads
Imagine getting a job dropping off food?! Like.. Yeah. I installed my flight line to land at you restaurant, pick up food & drop off via a Switch to a customers doorstep & tap “Send Home.. When will This Dat Arrive?
Hello! I build ur 7 inch and noe also the 10 inch. My lroblrm with the 10 inch: i burned 2 capacators. It pulls like 13 amps just for hovering.. no gopro/ 4000 mah fullsend li ion pack. With standard pid it was all shaky and i burned the first coacator just with hovering (22 amps pull). After tuning i could fly more stable, little shaky but more stable, but burned the 2. Capacator. Now i installed the 3. One and while hovering i pull 13 amps. How can i reduce that? Make it more efficient? Thanks!
Hey, I am new at this and this is a great video. I want to ask something. Should I buy the same motors if I want to carry a load like 1-3 kg ? Also, would the 7 inch one be enough for carrying that load ? Thanks a lot.
@@hoardersam10 Really appreciate for this. Also, do you think 1300kv is enough for that payload or should I consider 10 if I need more range ? I want to achieve 15-20km with such payload if possible and trying to find the sweet spot for that.
Would it be possible to push the flight time to 30 minutes or even greater, I guess you could get a larger battery, but what other methods could one do? Nice video btw, subscribed :)
This is true that basic FPV requires atleast analog camera which is there in this build but every FPV flight has an aim to record HD video for which GoPro or any similar action camera is must which is missing in this build, hmm ! that's why total views / likes ration of this video is not that motivating. But I still like your video and thanks to you for your great efforts, I hope you could workout some concoction to mount the action cam on it.
unfortunately speedybee doesnt recommend their f4v4 for a 10"..ask me how i know lol... dont get me wrong I LOVE my speedybee stacks and price point but have had issues not long after on my current 10" build. they have a new 60a esc which they have yet to confirm is ok for 10" so im trying a skystars stack *fingers crossed*
Hey thank you for video :) So I made my one 10 inch based on your recommend parts. But my doesn’t fly well the frame is suuuper noisy Do you have maybe some tune for this quad ? Thanx :)
Are you using HQprop props or the no-name brand ones? It turns out the no-name brand props are pretty bad so now I'm only going to recommend the brand name HQprops
@@hoardersam10I wonder if this is my issue, I have crazy oscillations when I accelerate and the motors sound grindy af the more weight I add to the quad (larger batteries) Stock betaflight tune didn’t work for me on this or the 7”, just straight tried to fly away. Had to crazy glue down the magnets in the motors on the 10”, they were trying to slide out of the bell. I don’t want to deep dive into tuning but I don’t think I have a choice now, I’m in it too deep
Bro thank you for not going off on tons of (personable) tangents and vomit inducing "creator" content that wastes 10 minutes of a video and just getting straight to the freaking point with absolutely nothing extra added. It is so damn refreshing to finally watch videos the way you do them. I literally can not stand all the stupid intro videos woth channel animations and all that lame ass content creator garbage. It is so easy to watch your videos from start to finish and just want to point out how enjoyable it is.
you read my mind
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Just a few notes as I have built this (previous to the video).
My max fly time so far is around 15 min and in that I covered 8 miles (in circles). Truth is I could have gone another mile easy- this was just cruising so your milage may vary.
The peak amp draw on mine was 80 amps for a lift off which the 60a speedybee did fine but you won't want to do that continous- the lift off generated 10g force so this really does get up and go.
The most important fact- this is a 4 pound beast and crashes are nasty. Do not fly as your first build unless you got at least a football field of space around you as it will do serious damage while going 100 mph.
80A draw at input and 60A ESC means per motor. IT IS a big difference. With only 80A draw you are far away from what the ESC can handle.
@@YourdailydoseofShorts-un5vi Yeah, at 60A per motor, it's 240A total. Not many batteries can even supply that, especially if you fly on liion.
I'm so thrilled to have found your channel!
You landed at 3.7v or 2300mah use , and still got 15 minutes? crazyy
sub 250g build next! :D
I had a good time building your 7 inch build, eager to try this one too. Love the FC choice this time
Did u use the fc and esc from Tsido ? And not the speedybee
@@fabian99688 for the 7 inch I used the ysido. it worked fine for me, but I wouldn't recommend it any more because it doesn't support servo control. I'm going with speedybee now
@@fabian99688 speedybee for this one, ysido worked great for me on the 7 inch but it doesn't have servo support
Wait yea did he use a transponder ? 😱🚨
Good advice about making sure the capacity will fit where you want it. The shorter you can keep your capacitor leads the better protection it will provide. Solder you cap as close as practical to the power pads.
Thanks for all the great suggestions in parts. I'm only seven minutes into the video so I haven't decided if I will build one or not. I'll need to see how long your flight times are before I decide.
You mention thread locker around ten minutes in. The first time I built my own quad, I didn't use thread locker. When I took the drone for the first test hover in my backyard, it looked like my drone was dripping wet. The "drips" were really screws falling out. Fortunately I managed to land before any of the motors came detached.
I also like to use connectors on my motors.
I like to have connectors for all the components since I like to experiment with different parts a lot. I use a lot of MX1.25 connectors since these are available both in male and female versions. I used to use standard 0.1" Dupont connectors but these are too big to be practical in a lot of my builds.
Thanks again for all the great suggestions.
Awesome video, finally someone building stuf that's not tiny screamers or big ones that are just gucci namebrand
I think this is exactly what I'm going to do as a first build. I can hear it now: 10" for a first drone???!!! I have long grass all over the place, so unless the price of props suddenly skyrockets, I can afford to break a few sets. Honestly, you had me at versatility. I still don't know which direction I want to go in this activity, but it's probably something like long range exploring. I like the idea of stability, and stealth. And I love the fact those massive motors can be practically idled and it'll still fly. This could be a heavy lifter if need be, or a loitering platform. Ya, thanks for this video, my mind is finally made up!
It's crazy I built a 7" and been hooked ever since. Built a 8 skipped 9 and now I'm gonna build a 10.... I may build a 10" x8 I wanna build a monster this time. I'm definitely gonna a take advantage of the conflict pricing thats out there.I barely fly my 5"anymore I just like the way a big quad flies. So I'm sure I'm gonna love this video. I haven't watched it yet but I can't wait...
can you tell me the parts that you're thinking about for the 10 inches x8? which frame are you gonna get?
@@ΟρθόδοξοςΘεός I already got a mark 4 seven inch so I'll probably stick with that to be honest. Just cause it's cheap and I already have a lot of hardware for the mark4 platform. I'd like to run 8s so my esc will probably be the most expensive piece. 70 or 80 amp and I'm thinking 3115 size motors. I love the way a big quadcopter flies. Can't wait...
@@VinydFPV Do you know of any sources of information on how to build x8 drones from AliExpress? UA-cam videos or websites etc? If you recorded the process of making an x8 one and posted it I'd love to watch it.
@@ΟρθόδοξοςΘεός if this is your first drone I wouldn't suggest it. You'll be setting yourself up for heart ache...
Are you new to the hobby?
10 inch is way to go. I was lucky to get exactly the same 10 inch Mark 4 clone for around $110 on blackfriday. Quiet, powerfull, accepts 3S-6S lipo or liion.
03 air unit 10 in gonna be awesome 👌
I was inspired by your 7 in build. Kept the clone frame, motors, props, vtx... but did a speedybee stack f4 60A with baro, betafpv superD true diversity receiver, my own red tpu 3d prints, hglrc gps + compas, foxeer 4 lolipop short sma antenna, and a iflight racecam r1 laying around.
I just want to fly and cruise FOREVER !
Also clasps or “extra hands” helps or that thumb gum that don’t dry up.. that’s good too .. Crucial. Life is Easier with Pre-Fluxed Tin. Also flux paste or pen… Tweezers. A non flammable mat to work on top of. A box/space to put your unfinished work so your house don’t look like a hoarders.. Did I miss any SETUPS? If no thread lock! The 99 cent Home Depot pipe thread tape helps too! Or both 🤯 LANYARD!
what a time to be alive :^)
Good vid. Did look at these, would be good to see this frame tested properly especially with such thin arms, loaded up and dive tests would show wobbles, frame resonance and prop wash handling better.
You get straight to the point, great stuff bro
Hell yeah! Speedy Bee stack! That's what I run on my 5" quads.
Nice finds! Now I need one.
For a GoPro mount, use the one from the Foxeer Aura 10. It fits perfectly. The mount for the Rekon 7 fits as well with a bit of heat and stretching. (I don't know what happened to my original comment so I left it again.)
Thanks I will try to see if I can find a stl for the Aura 10. I tried making my own 3d print (can briefly be seen in the failed ESC crash) but I didn't like it
@@hoardersam10 I can't remember if I got the prints for mine off of Foxeer's website or printables or thingiverse, but it was one of those 3 places. They're certainly available. I'm almost positive it was from Foxeer's website.
@@hoardersam10 yeah I just checked, there is a file download under the "downloads" tab on the Aura 10 product page.
The time has come
The frame fits a caddx turtle v2 perfectly in front! Like it was made for it.
Just got all the parts for this build, and the 3.5 build as well. goofed up and got the 7 inch frame instead of the 10 on accident, so I guess I'm building the 7 next 😅😅
good stuff dude. I've been wanting a drone for a few years now, and have been talking about it for awhile, it's cool the algo brought me here as it was kinda what I needed.
sounds like fun, good luck with the build!
When will you you post the 10" Manta build? Will it use these same motors?
How fast does it go?
Great stuff man
How feasible would li-ion be for this?
Please tell me, if I have a 21700 4S, what motors and props will be effective?
I think that might be a little small for the 10" build. 4s ~5000mah li-ion? Maybe if you can find the 1000kv+ versions of the 3115 motors
Nice video Sam, but I believe I didn’t saw any pid tuning. Did you put a preset on there or just stock betaflight pid’s?
Stock betaflight PIDs for this build
I did this exact same build and stock betaflight tune tried to fly away, motors are sounding grindy af
@@Ryan.RiveraI have the same experience, motors are very grindy and they overheat like crazy. Lots of oscilations too. I triedbi-directional d-shot, PWM filters and different presets on betaflight, but it's not helping a whole lot. Also, prop wash is pretty gnarly. I'm honestly a bit stumped since PID is an esoteric mystery to me. Please let me know if you find a way to solve this issue.
@ I got you. Chris rosser has a betaflight 4.5 tuning video I plan on following, his first step is to decrease the master multiplier to 0.5 and increase in increments of 0.1 until it flies decent for a quick and dirty tune. I haven’t tried followed his video yet bc I haven’t had time. But I was playing with the tuning last weekend and one thing I found helpful was turning the filter (on the 3rd tab, the one next to the rates tab there’s those 2 sliders) down to like 0.3-0.4, seemed to help with the motors being hot and sounding bad. But this only helped when I had a 1300mah Lipo on it, once I strapped on a heavier 4200 6s li-ion battery the motors started struggling again. I would check out Chris’s video of you want to try and tune, that’s what I’m going to do bc this thing absolutely needs a tune, idk how the hell Sam got his to fly on stock PIDs
@@MrBelegus also fyi the magnets in the motors were all coming loose and falling down almost out of the bell, I had to pick up some loctite super glue and glue them back down, super inconvenient but… we are working with a budget 10” here lol
OMG, I had built almost the exact same build, just with 3110 motors 900kv. I haven't gotten something setup correctly as I'm getting tons of jello in my analog system.
Enjoying the videos. Just missing the total weight of the setups in each video description
Next a 15 inch x class build? I would love too see it and do the esc on the arm. And just see what you'd come up with all my parts should be in for the 10 inch by the 28th
That sounds cool but I can't find a cheap x-class frame :( The iflight one is like $250. For now I ordered a 15-inch frame from 9imod but I'm not sure if its really designed as an x-class
Great video, very entertaining. Best regards
hi sam..thz for the video...i wish to know on how to fix 2 camera on drone for analog or digital......
Bro I'm adicted with this video
Which rush cherry antenna should I buy? Ali has 12 options. SMA has 6 options.
RHCP SMA, I like the longer 150mm one
Hey, could you please make a video of the frame assembly? Just so that as a beginner I can know what screw goes where. If not could you give me a guide for this frame please?
Aliexpress really does have good deals on parts, it's just the shipping is sooo long!
only takes a week or two for me
@aelsi1337 i have a pair of goggles I'm pretty sure I ordered that i haven't gotten yet and it's been almost a month at this point. I ended up having to order a pair from getfpv.
Dude AliExpress has gotten so much better over the past year or so, I order tons and tons of stuff off it and it is almost always no more than a week sometimes shorter sometimes a few days longer like 10 days. The days of waiting a month are long gone. Shipping should not hinder you at all anymore
Just the motors on my 10" were over $200! (T-Motor velox 3115 900kv) The fact that you built a 10" for the same price is pretty remarkable!
hey Hoarder, i love your channel and every budget build you do could you possibly make a sub 250 build preferably 3 inch range maybe 3.5 inch if possible thank you.
I actually have one filmed but the 3.5" JMT frame I used is out of production :(
I'm going to try to do another one with the flyfishrc volador 3.5 frame.
@@hoardersam10Thanks
thanks a lot. Great work
Hi, nice video, whats the payload capacity on this one? How much can the propellers lift?
Should 3d print toroidal props on that☝️💥💫❤
Do you have instructions on adding the gps?
Please tell me what goggle are you using
Hello the cheap esc that burned was that the 45 or 60 amp? Btw love the video
The burned ESC was a 60 amp :( I thought it would work
@@hoardersam10 I burned a 60ah Skystars ESC on this frame. Axis Flying has a 80 ah model for 13inch. I will try that next time…
Just came across your channel and subscribed its great. Was wondering if this would work for taking baits out for surf fishing? Can’t justify buying a designated fishing drone for 1500 but at this price it wouldn’t be a catastrophic deal if it got lost. It would need to carry 1-2 lbs about 400 yds out. I am very familiar with building rc projects and flying inexpensive drones just don’t really know a lot about what the capabilities are on something like this.
Yes I think it would be a good choice to carry that kind of payload. I will say the frame is kind of small so it's hard to attach stuff to it. You may want to check this 9imod frame out, it's physically larger which makes it easier to add custom payloads and such. I bought one and I want to try to make a custom sprayer drone with it: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DeSvuI9
Honestly speaking I’ve been watching and building my own quads for about 4 years now ( within those 4 years I have only built 5 quads so I’m not a pro or anything like that) and a lot of times I’ve either lost track of how to build them from beginning to end or just completely forgot how to build or program them but I’ve been watching Joshua Bardwells for about 6 years now and although he’s absolutely one of the best informative quad builders/programmers I’ve watched his videos (even the videos he makes for beginners) I find a little hard to follow because at his level he does expect that the viewer has some understanding of what he’s doing so he tends to jump ahead and skip over some steps that I would like to see more of explanation of how (and why) he arrived at a certain point in the build. Nothing against him but sometimes I get lost and no matter how many times I review that particular section of the video I still am lost as to how he moved on to the next point but with your videos it’s made clear step by step with not too much “Tech-na-bable” which makes it far easier to understand. Thank you. I love and appreciate your build videos.💯💯👍👍🙂
nice voice. good job
Thank You, Sir.
I assembled this same build, but I couldn't get good results regarding pids, could you provide the pid and filter data?
Did you ever have any luck tuning? I just built this but it’s been crazy to tune. Stock betaflight def is not working for me, the motors sound awful
@@Ryan.Rivera The motors I used in my build were 2212 920KV with 1045 propellers, I couldn't get a good P&D ratio, besides the drone couldn't handle the winds very well, so I left the I gain value at 0.8 and relaxing the I term reduced the cutoff value to 3 and this significantly improved the flight, the other sliders were as follows: D gain at 1.4, P&I gains at 1, feed forward gains at 0.8 and the master multiplier to 0.8. The final pid result was:
p i d ff
roll 45 63 42 95
pitch 47 67 47 99
Tell me if this configuration looks good on your drone
Did you have to change any of the filter settings? I just built one almost the same just the cheap stack that came with a kit.
What's a good alternative to the tindling battery?
I recommend paying $ for soldering gun w/flat tip & pointy. Like he says.. SO TRUE. If you build. Which YOU WILL. If you want to fly.
Have you a tune video?
Thank u very intrresting!
Out of curiosity would it be possible to use DeWalt 20volt batterys to power this drone? I have several batteries and chargers.
Hello did you made some pid tuning on your build? could you share?
Stock PIDs that came with the speedybee
@@hoardersam10 thanks m8
Please do a video on hovering
hi, great assembly. I ordered the same on Aliexpress. unfortunately the FC arrived with 5' settings could you give me your PID figures to have an eco and stable quad like you?
I used the default PIDs that came with the speedybee
Any specifics on the new props and the current sensor? I’m about to build the original, just got all the parts in. This is awesome. Do you have an idea of how far the pocket’s signal can go vs the vtx? Your videos are awesome. Thanks for sharing. It’s been a lot of fun getting into this hobby so far thanks to you.
What if I used 4115 400KV motors?
Can't find that vtx table in the description?
Here it is: rushfpv.net/pages/download-center
Hey nice video! I have a question. Can I use the motors of the 10 inch drone to the 7 inch? What are the positives and numbers of doing that? Thanks!
You could and I think it would fly, it would just be a lot heavier than the normal 7 inch and so you would get less flight time.
This is very, very cool. I'm wondering how you had a GoPro mounted for the takeoff with the failed ESC? From looking at 3D models available, I'm thinking that the existing STL for the Mark 4 5" GoPro mount can likely be extended to fit this frame? Thanks
I modified a stl I found and extended it to work with this frame, which ended up with me having to mount the battery at the bottom which is pretty sketchy. I'll see if I can post the STL up, but I'd do it at your own risk since the big battery on the bottom is a big safety risk
@@hoardersam10 Also another question - how is your Pinecil soldering iron? Do you have the V1 or V2, and would you recommend them? Does it matter that it isn't grounded/do you use the grounding screw? Thanks
@@joshthebuilder247 I like my pinecil, I stopped using my weller soldering station because the pinecil is just so fast. I think I have the V1 because I bought it years ago. I'm not sure about grounding, I just power it with my USB-C phone charger
@@hoardersam10 Thanks!
@@hoardersam10 i built the 7 inch because of ur vid and just ordered the 10 inch parts. Could u post the stl for yhe gopro?
What size battery straps do you use?
I think 8inch/200mm
What would the load capacity of a drone like this be?
That’s SICK
Hmm, a 10 inch.... I like it! at 11:03, that wobbeling, was it caused by the FC or did you test your stick inputs?.... I would add a beeper with battery and a GPS to it.
Make the 10 inch dji o3 drone I’m ready to make one make me feel more confident if I watch you build them fly
Did you use presets pid or default pid?
Default PID
I build the same drone with inav and it was very unstable. I am not sure what the issue :) I will try again following your video and try beta-flight. You dont use gps ?
It is very hard to balance props at that size. It causes huge vibration problems.
Yo this is so sick! Inlove with this series. Keep it going bro! These are great videos. Any socials i could hit you up at?
Thanks! For now I just have my email in my youtube about info, no other socials yet
@@hoardersam10 i cant see your email, and it wont let me add mine. Otherwise i would hit you up! Id love to talk builds and learn more
@@DWilson01 samhoarder at gmail
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Any advice about mounting the battery beneath the FC?
I like this idea too. I wonder why it's not done more often, other than crashing on it. Still easy enough to fab some belly landing gear / bash guards.
I'm going to be putting one of these together soon. Do you have any tips or tricks on betaflight tuning for this or possibly your tune as a starting point? I was hoping to see it in the video but didn't know any actual tuning done in beta flight
I did a little bit of tuning - the very first hop on the sidewalk I had it at 0.5 master multiplier because I was scared the big quad wouldn't handle the default 5" PID. But it turns out it still works well, I bumpted it up to 0.75 and then all the way to 1.0 stock betaflight PIDs and I felt that flew great
Thanks for this tutorial. I came here from the 7" build vid.
Is it possible to have the OSD show angle/acro mode?
Yes, you can add a flight mode element to the OSD
oh man I wanna see next video... and max speeed on this monster :D
so you give me no chose so Im subscribe you now
Should have flashed Bluejay ESC firmware and let these 3115 motors sing ;-)
Thanks for the video, I just ordered everything. Added a GPS though, imho it would be very unresponsible to go long range without it.
I do have some questions which I hope you could help with:
1. I just ordered two Lipo packs of HobbyKing; 5000mAh, 6s, they are 'heavy'. Why did you not go with Li-ion since it would hold more energy per kg?
2. The braces in the frame seem to be very un aerodynamic, did you do anything to them to avoid too much prop drag?
3. I ordered a lollypop antenna for the VTX, however do you know which type of polarization should be used?
Thanks!
1. Li-ion would be better but they are a lot more expensive compared to the 5000mah lipos. I'm going to try to make my own li-ion in the future
2. I just left them stock, I think the stiffness is more important than the drag
3. RHCP is the norm for analog systems, while digital systems tend to use LHCP
What type of gps did you put on your build?
@k.weinheimer2222 The HGLRC M100-5883, should work.
How does on hover?
Hi Hoarder, Thank you for this video. I am inspired to build my first drone. I am ordering parts but don't see battery on your list. Can you suggest one I can use for 10" drone along with a link please?
6S 5000mah lipo, check out CNHL or ZEEE battery websites
Yep , I had the cheap f4 stack and my esc flip over and caught on fire
Nice😎
What’s the link to the RushTank Solo VTX table? Thanks.
parts have doubled in price on ali express, even though it appears low when you add it to cart. Once added the price doubles for apparently no reason.
Thanks for the video man :), is this drone sufficient to drop fishing baits?
sorry new to this hobby, what benefit of 10 inch than 7 inch build?, look like people atract to 10 inch more
Propeller efficiency increases with size (so the same amount of power will yield proportionally more thrust over time) this leads to longer flight times on the same battery. It also is able to carry more, so people put payloads on 10” quads
Any idea how much it could lift?
Imagine getting a job dropping off food?! Like.. Yeah. I installed my flight line to land at you restaurant, pick up food & drop off via a Switch to a customers doorstep & tap “Send Home.. When will This Dat Arrive?
Soo I did the same build and get crazy vibrations and motors get hot. How do I fix this? Tnx
I bought the parts, and we will see how this goes.
i hate to bother you again but how did you set up your elrs reciever i bought the speedy b
I set up the receiver at 22:00
Hello! I build ur 7 inch and noe also the 10 inch. My lroblrm with the 10 inch: i burned 2 capacators. It pulls like 13 amps just for hovering.. no gopro/ 4000 mah fullsend li ion pack. With standard pid it was all shaky and i burned the first coacator just with hovering (22 amps pull). After tuning i could fly more stable, little shaky but more stable, but burned the 2. Capacator. Now i installed the 3. One and while hovering i pull 13 amps. How can i reduce that? Make it more efficient? Thanks!
Capacitor burning sounds unusual, that shouldn't be related to amp draw. What rating capacitors are you using?
@@hoardersam10 oh okay, well im using a 1000 35v capacitor
@@RickEoll That sounds OK to me. Is the polarity of the capacitor correct?
@@hoardersam10 yes the polarity is fine, I have built a few drones now… do u think 13 amps hovering us too much?
Hey, I am new at this and this is a great video. I want to ask something. Should I buy the same motors if I want to carry a load like 1-3 kg ? Also, would the 7 inch one be enough for carrying that load ? Thanks a lot.
1kg I think the 7-inch should be fine, 3kg I would lean towards 10-inch
@@hoardersam10 Really appreciate for this. Also, do you think 1300kv is enough for that payload or should I consider 10 if I need more range ? I want to achieve 15-20km with such payload if possible and trying to find the sweet spot for that.
No PIDs or Filters?
Betaflight stock PIDs that came with the Speedybee seem to be working OK for me
Would it be possible to push the flight time to 30 minutes or even greater, I guess you could get a larger battery, but what other methods could one do?
Nice video btw, subscribed :)
@hoardersam10: How sure are you that those sub 10A current reading are accurate?
In the end the mAh drawn seems to be correct
So for this being LR how far out will It go with the parts on it??
This is true that basic FPV requires atleast analog camera which is there in this build but every FPV flight has an aim to record HD video for which GoPro or any similar action camera is must which is missing in this build, hmm ! that's why total views / likes ration of this video is not that motivating.
But I still like your video and thanks to you for your great efforts, I hope you could workout some concoction to mount the action cam on it.
unfortunately speedybee doesnt recommend their f4v4 for a 10"..ask me how i know lol... dont get me wrong I LOVE my speedybee stacks and price point but have had issues not long after on my current 10" build. they have a new 60a esc which they have yet to confirm is ok for 10" so im trying a skystars stack *fingers crossed*
did it burn?
@@Homo_neanderthal maybe lol ➡ ua-cam.com/video/5JxGySNuE_o/v-deo.html
Hey thank you for video :) So I made my one 10 inch based on your recommend parts. But my doesn’t fly well the frame is suuuper noisy
Do you have maybe some tune for this quad ? Thanx :)
Are you using HQprop props or the no-name brand ones? It turns out the no-name brand props are pretty bad so now I'm only going to recommend the brand name HQprops
@@hoardersam10I wonder if this is my issue, I have crazy oscillations when I accelerate and the motors sound grindy af the more weight I add to the quad (larger batteries) Stock betaflight tune didn’t work for me on this or the 7”, just straight tried to fly away. Had to crazy glue down the magnets in the motors on the 10”, they were trying to slide out of the bell. I don’t want to deep dive into tuning but I don’t think I have a choice now, I’m in it too deep
Could I put 1.5-2 kilograms camera on this?