Exactly as I stated. Thank goodness for breakdowns. U’ll get some random players doing wild stuff but still this will help most ppL understand what U can expect.
Just bought a PS5. Haven't had a console since PS1. I'm blown away. Sub-Zero is a great character for a new player, or one that's getting back into MK. This is a great guide. Subscribed immediately. Cheers and good wishes to all y'all!
I wouldn't say desperately. I have a positive record with him right now and I suck lol. He is able to really control the pace of the fight and has some nice mix up. Just needs a tad more damage to be more inline with his combo potential.
@@Mayorofsexytown1303hes bottom 1-3 rn, man got 12 nerfs from the beta. That's not an exaggeration, I mean a literal list of nerfs 12 long He was broken in beta but still
@@DIVERSION_UKfgc I understand he is towards the bottom but unless you are playing at a pro level he is still extremely viable. I use him and have a positive record. Im not very good lol. He 's great at controlling the fight and his mix ups are insane with Kung Kameo.
@@Mayorofsexytown1303 oh yeah for sure, the tier lists don't matter in the slightest in the lower levels of play Glad you're seeing success with him g :)
@@DIVERSION_UKfgc Goes to show it's about finding the right character for you. I was playing Raiden who is top tier right now but I'm doing 100% better with Sub lol.
Awesome guide dude, I was having trouble figuring out just what to do strategy wise with sub and now I'm much more confident knowing the tools I have at my disposal.
This vid was recommended to me by YT after watching your twitch stream yesterday. Super informative. Although SZ is considered low tier, your patience and defensive tactics still make him a problem. Great vid man, keep it up.
Anyone worth their salt is going to be crouch blocking unless they see the overhead or go to fuzzy the 3rd hit of his overhead strings. And them guessing right on block is a full combo. Not really worth it imo.
@@Usersunitedi did mention mid-low level play. It is definitely at least worth knowing for klutch situations. I rarely use it which is why it's typically effective. You can also cancel it to retreat or make it safe with ice klone or something. Just a way to mix-up the formula.
How tf is it a good mix up option? It's overhead into high, not overhead into overhead so the low slide is irrelevant after the first hit when you stand block the first then crouch the second. Also no, ice clone retreat is not safe since you can armour through it on reaction for a legit punish. Do you even play the game or have watched the video?
That's exactly what I need at the moment, just perfect, thank you very much, I just can't get past grandmaster, my goal is to get to demigod, but it's very difficult.
This was a very helpful video! I've been getting into Sub Zero lately as a brand new player to MK and he's shown a lot of promise, but I've struggled with safe options and good mix. This video cleared that up for me. Big ups! You explained so much so well, and I think I'll learn much more efficiently for it 👌
Love this guide. Interestingly, the second BnB combo you showed does slightly more damage without the jump 1. I just went straight into back 2 and it did 3% more for an easier combo. Hate the way his combos stale bc it rewards easier combos lol but it is what it is, for now.
MK9 was the best MK ever made shut your mouth, its meter system,comb system,aesthetic everything the best..MK11 is PURE garbage and MK1 is dumb af assist game that doesnt feel like true MK and tom slayed enough in MKX aswell, he just saw how trash 11 was so why play it. He IS the best subzero player and always will be. So stfu and gtfo@@TrollsGetMad
@@RealMKTomBradyjust remember man you are one of the founding fathers of the fucking FGC, yeah you've made some personal mistakes down the road but ain't no one taking your legacy from you!!!!!!
I been trying Stryker for the arrest reset to try to help compensate for his damage plus the extra health. Subs my favorite but I’m struggling to play him I’m already no pro and the nerfs aren’t helping
When I saw Tom on this I’m like I hope he don’t go to hard on sub and expose him. He’s trying to get him buffed… smart sarcasm..? But he has class I like this guy
how come sometimes when I press the second b2 ( after I confirmed the first b2) subzero does a block instead of b2? I dont even press the block button. its weird this is happening to me since 3 days, lost tons of matches because of this. and this never happened to me before since the release of mk1. also sup with all these online players in KL having subzero, scorp and havik avatar pictures yet using smoke and oniman? lol its like 60% of all my matches in KL are vs smoke and oniman!
I like new frost and subzero update, but I wish they would allow frost to be summoned while in the air. The wall can be, but she'd be bad ass if she could do ice trash or frost revenge while airborne...
Im surprised you didn't talk about scorpion kameo. You get a full combo after his low string, ex slide and he give you full combo mix ups off his low, his F1-2 string and safety with cancelable strings
You can go that route if you want ( more damage) but having a kameo to hide some of subzeros bad buttons and punishable strings or having goro make your back 2 safe is alot better than pure damage
@@HalcyonEX i agree goro is better in general for Sub-zero, Scorpion kameo is a legit option especially being able to see b2 block and still go instantly into going full screen zoning is helpful
So the Clone coming out or not coming out is sort of the mix but if the oponent "guesses"/reacts when the clone comes out SZ is in trouble because of the Recovery not allowing to block in time? And MB Clone isn't safe either to not give SZ full screen control even at the cost of 2 bars even tho at the same time it would just reset back to neutral for both sides. I'm having a hard time deciding if this is fair because even if the Clone is out and you don't punish it, SZ still has no way in cause of the Recovery from using Clone, meaning the oponent can stay Blocking or back up, the oponent is pretty much safe but if the oponent has a TP then they can fully circumvent the supposed space advantage SZ has and pretty likely still get a punish on the Clone due to the Recovery frames. There's no reason to respect the Clone threat if it's reactable. I guess the fairest thing to do is reduce the recovery to where Clone is barely safe so SZ can't be punished 100% of the time. That would simply reset both sides to Neutral right? While at the same time it negates SZ advantage because if the oponent doesn't react then they're still blocking and safe so it's not like you can spam clone at the end of block strings and recreate free pressure. Plus there's the CD aswell to prevent that scenario so i guess it's possible to make Clone safe or safe-ish in most general situations be reducing the Recovery SZ must endure.
Yeah I've been playing with him but I soon realized the combo damage just isnt enough be cause you have low damage combos in the first place better off with almost any other kameo features here imo
Bro go back to Evo moment 37. Diago always been a shoto main. In 5 Ryu sucked or he would have swapped bcuz he was bored of guile but didn't feel he could swap to a new style of character
After this clip I can see why they nerf him on release. He is really strong. But I think what would be nice is if they make it so he can do 40% dmg. That would be really nice.
Does sektor's teleport uppercut protect sub-zero in the same way that goro's uppercut does? Like can I go in with 12 and call in sektor to prevent a counter and keep me safe?
The cameo system makes him a insane thread with scorpion he can do a combo with almost every string he has so he is not bad his damage sucks tho i Hope they bug his damage to 40% meterless instead of that garbage mk11 29%
I think Subzero Ice Ball Should only be blocked by high Block. not low blocking. I think if Ice Slide is low block, Ice thrust Mid Block, and Ice ball High block. The biggest issue really is most of Subzero arsenal and attacks are nullified by blocking low and the only real attacks to get past it take to long to wind up. Unless im missing something
Nice vid but honestly the character is borderline unplayable in the competitive scene. Other characters have meterless 40 percent combos he can’t compete at the moment.
Idk guys, but with scorpion kameo i menaged to pull 39% with 2 bars and 1 kameo. And from low its 310 damage. So scorpion is definetily best kameo in my opinion
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Get cozy and grab a snack, this guide is long and it's worth it!
Tom’s game knowledge especially with sub, is so intriguing that I watched a 40 minute guide on a character I don’t play
And now…U know Sub’s options and game plan 👌🏽
I watched it because I have trouble against Sub in KL. Glad this is so detailed, it also helps for understanding how to counter him.
Exactly as I stated. Thank goodness for breakdowns. U’ll get some random players doing wild stuff but still this will help most ppL understand what U can expect.
As a Shang Tsung player, I enjoy any and every character guide.
I can't imagine a Sub Zero Character guide with a different player.
Not only is he a Legend in Football
He also teaches us how to play MK.
Just bought a PS5. Haven't had a console since PS1. I'm blown away. Sub-Zero is a great character for a new player, or one that's getting back into MK. This is a great guide. Subscribed immediately. Cheers and good wishes to all y'all!
Excited to see a indepth guide and not just someone going "hes bad rn pick another"
He is kind if bad though. He does no damage and has bad frame data.
also water is wet, people can still learn to play the character they want?@@MK-vi2cm
MK Tom Brady is the reason I became an absolute lab monster
best guide so far
Tom is awesome in this character breakdown, good stuff, but Sub Zero needs some buffs desperately.
I wouldn't say desperately. I have a positive record with him right now and I suck lol. He is able to really control the pace of the fight and has some nice mix up. Just needs a tad more damage to be more inline with his combo potential.
@@Mayorofsexytown1303hes bottom 1-3 rn, man got 12 nerfs from the beta. That's not an exaggeration, I mean a literal list of nerfs 12 long
He was broken in beta but still
@@DIVERSION_UKfgc I understand he is towards the bottom but unless you are playing at a pro level he is still extremely viable. I use him and have a positive record. Im not very good lol. He 's great at controlling the fight and his mix ups are insane with Kung Kameo.
@@Mayorofsexytown1303 oh yeah for sure, the tier lists don't matter in the slightest in the lower levels of play
Glad you're seeing success with him g :)
@@DIVERSION_UKfgc Goes to show it's about finding the right character for you. I was playing Raiden who is top tier right now but I'm doing 100% better with Sub lol.
I don't even have this game but your guide impressed me with all the small tricks and detailed info
Tom is that guy.
Awesome guide dude, I was having trouble figuring out just what to do strategy wise with sub and now I'm much more confident knowing the tools I have at my disposal.
Wow this guide is soo in depth
New sub zero main learning in the works
Tom is super informative, great guide.
THE LEGEND
The MAN!! Great video TOM!
This vid was recommended to me by YT after watching your twitch stream yesterday. Super informative. Although SZ is considered low tier, your patience and defensive tactics still make him a problem. Great vid man, keep it up.
Fighting games are so fun to dig into.
You can also cancel the first hit of B2 into a low slide. Its a good mixup option. Especially for mid-low level play
Anyone worth their salt is going to be crouch blocking unless they see the overhead or go to fuzzy the 3rd hit of his overhead strings.
And them guessing right on block is a full combo. Not really worth it imo.
@@Usersunitedi did mention mid-low level play. It is definitely at least worth knowing for klutch situations. I rarely use it which is why it's typically effective. You can also cancel it to retreat or make it safe with ice klone or something. Just a way to mix-up the formula.
How tf is it a good mix up option? It's overhead into high, not overhead into overhead so the low slide is irrelevant after the first hit when you stand block the first then crouch the second. Also no, ice clone retreat is not safe since you can armour through it on reaction for a legit punish. Do you even play the game or have watched the video?
@@YokaiSteve it has worked tho so what's your point?
@@TheDarkGBJ No it hasn't, that's my point.
Im very new to MK and felt like sub was a good starter pick this helped me so much thank you
That's exactly what I need at the moment, just perfect, thank you very much, I just can't get past grandmaster, my goal is to get to demigod, but it's very difficult.
Make your goal elder god you can do it with subzero trust me
@@HalcyonEX mamma mia yesterday I made it to demigod with sub zero, I tell you it was damn hard
I can't believe it's finally here.....I'm surprised Tom Brady isn't on here just complaining about 50/50s
Nvm he's doing it now lol
lmao
Thank you guys.
Tom Brady stopped playing football to sign with NRS
Yes! Thank you, Tom! This is really helpful!
Tom the GOAT
MKTOMBRADY FTW :) one thing I hate about Sub in MK1 is his lack of mids. Makes things tough some times.
The Grandmaster is back.
I’m new to MK and I’m glad I chose Sub zero as my first character ever he’s so much fun to play
Fascinating guide. Definitely inspired me to try learning him. Very unique character
Sub-Zero will always be my main and favorite MK character, but man did they nerf him hard.
Best sub zero they've had in a long time. He kinda outshines scorpion on here
😂😂😂😂😂
Good stuff, subscribed!
I pair him with Frost. Corner them. Hide behind clone while frost sets up her tracking ice ball. Pretty effective so far.
This was a very helpful video! I've been getting into Sub Zero lately as a brand new player to MK and he's shown a lot of promise, but I've struggled with safe options and good mix. This video cleared that up for me. Big ups! You explained so much so well, and I think I'll learn much more efficiently for it 👌
Sub Zero is my fav MK character. Its a shame what Ed Baboon and NRS did to him
Love this guide. Interestingly, the second BnB combo you showed does slightly more damage without the jump 1. I just went straight into back 2 and it did 3% more for an easier combo. Hate the way his combos stale bc it rewards easier combos lol but it is what it is, for now.
Just buy the game yesterday wanna used sub zero as my main character in online fight hope this video help me and keep it up
Thank you for the in depth guide i was wondering a bit more about how Sub Zero works
Ngl most of these dashfight guides for mk1 came too early but this one is good
Enlightening
MK Tom Brady should do a guide on how to photoshop Uber receipts.
Haha nice-he still the Sub GOAT though so-idgaf.
@@BattleBrotherCasten not even close. He didn't win anything in mk11 or mkx. mk9 was small scene and overrated.
MK9 was the best MK ever made shut your mouth, its meter system,comb system,aesthetic everything the best..MK11 is PURE garbage and MK1 is dumb af assist game that doesnt feel like true MK and tom slayed enough in MKX aswell, he just saw how trash 11 was so why play it. He IS the best subzero player and always will be. So stfu and gtfo@@TrollsGetMad
@@TrollsGetMad Hope you enjoyed the video! And i certainly didnt win in mkx, but still had many high placings. Kinda hard to win with Sonic around
@@RealMKTomBradyjust remember man you are one of the founding fathers of the fucking FGC, yeah you've made some personal mistakes down the road but ain't no one taking your legacy from you!!!!!!
I been trying Stryker for the arrest reset to try to help compensate for his damage plus the extra health. Subs my favorite but I’m struggling to play him I’m already no pro and the nerfs aren’t helping
As soon as they give him his hood back, I will main sub. This is the most fun I've ever had with grandmaster blueberry popsicle
Great stuff here
We need Klassic Outfit ❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️
When I saw Tom on this I’m like I hope he don’t go to hard on sub and expose him. He’s trying to get him buffed… smart sarcasm..? But he has class I like this guy
Ive always mained sub ever since the mk vs dc days.
how come sometimes when I press the second b2 ( after I confirmed the first b2) subzero does a block instead of b2?
I dont even press the block button. its weird this is happening to me since 3 days, lost tons of matches because of this.
and this never happened to me before since the release of mk1.
also sup with all these online players in KL having subzero, scorp and havik avatar pictures yet using smoke and oniman?
lol its like 60% of all my matches in KL are vs smoke and oniman!
Scorpion kameo can combo off of the b34 up kameo then b2 3 bf3
I like new frost and subzero update, but I wish they would allow frost to be summoned while in the air. The wall can be, but she'd be bad ass if she could do ice trash or frost revenge while airborne...
Sweet
Ridiculous smooth touches. 🧊
A video on how to play reiko pls
KHARACTER!!!
ITS FUSTRATING
Im surprised you didn't talk about scorpion kameo. You get a full combo after his low string, ex slide and he give you full combo mix ups off his low, his F1-2 string and safety with cancelable strings
You can go that route if you want ( more damage) but having a kameo to hide some of subzeros bad buttons and punishable strings or having goro make your back 2 safe is alot better than pure damage
@@HalcyonEX i agree goro is better in general for Sub-zero, Scorpion kameo is a legit option especially being able to see b2 block and still go instantly into going full screen zoning is helpful
You can ice ball if you first do forward 1,2 then down forward 4 enhanced
You are not the best
But i like your passion
For me you are the real SZ player
Glad to see you keep going on
the good ending tom brady
Damn, y'all let him cook for an Hour?
Playing at 1.25x/1.5x his voice is still clear. But bro giving out all the secrets 🔥🔥🔥
So the Clone coming out or not coming out is sort of the mix but if the oponent "guesses"/reacts when the clone comes out SZ is in trouble because of the Recovery not allowing to block in time? And MB Clone isn't safe either to not give SZ full screen control even at the cost of 2 bars even tho at the same time it would just reset back to neutral for both sides. I'm having a hard time deciding if this is fair because even if the Clone is out and you don't punish it, SZ still has no way in cause of the Recovery from using Clone, meaning the oponent can stay Blocking or back up, the oponent is pretty much safe but if the oponent has a TP then they can fully circumvent the supposed space advantage SZ has and pretty likely still get a punish on the Clone due to the Recovery frames.
There's no reason to respect the Clone threat if it's reactable. I guess the fairest thing to do is reduce the recovery to where Clone is barely safe so SZ can't be punished 100% of the time. That would simply reset both sides to Neutral right? While at the same time it negates SZ advantage because if the oponent doesn't react then they're still blocking and safe so it's not like you can spam clone at the end of block strings and recreate free pressure. Plus there's the CD aswell to prevent that scenario so i guess it's possible to make Clone safe or safe-ish in most general situations be reducing the Recovery SZ must endure.
Bro Sub Zero/Sektor is underrated
Dude, how do you keep sleeping on the fire and ice/Scorpion and Sub-Zero duo. Really good for Kombo extensions for Sub-Zero
Yeah I've been playing with him but I soon realized the combo damage just isnt enough be cause you have low damage combos in the first place better off with almost any other kameo features here imo
Bihan is so cute.
Maybe good to know: You can special cancel your b2 after the first hit.
Im a Scorpion main and even I find how great sub zero is in this game they really did good changing him up
Bi-Han as Sub-Zero.
Now I hate NRS so much because of the tragedy they committed to us "subzero players." After the game release, they nurfed him to the ground
Character loyalties are MK and SF main traits was hurt to see DIAGO go Ken , was hurt to see Ninjakilla not use Liu but they want to win
Bro go back to Evo moment 37. Diago always been a shoto main. In 5 Ryu sucked or he would have swapped bcuz he was bored of guile but didn't feel he could swap to a new style of character
Tom should be hired by MK …
my deep hatred for sub zero online in mk11 makes me want to be happy sub is so mid here but i feel bad lmao. nice guide
Why u hate him
f2 and unsafe slide@@dreadlocsamurai4241
Please do kitana
At this point when everyone is doing 50% combos they might as well delete sub zero because his doing zero damage COMPARED
TO EVERYONE.... great guild
I wanted to hear his opinion on the community’s opinion on how sub zero is one of, if not, the weakest character
I’m pretty sure he’s got a video about that brother
@@matthewcrane5294 ty
Go to his youtube channel he has multiple videos above subs weaknesses in mk1 and thoughts on how they should buff him
Ed Boon hates Sub-Zero lowkey, thats why Sub isnt tournament viable in ANY mk games.
@@invisableLiquidbullshit. Sub Zero was good in MK11
After this clip I can see why they nerf him on release. He is really strong. But I think what would be nice is if they make it so he can do 40% dmg. That would be really nice.
He didnt do anything in the beta anywhere close to Kenshi and Johnny cage and yet sub is the only one who got nerfed
He can do 40 percent easily
Is there a reason my BF2 doesnt show up on my move list? I didnt know it existed until i seen this
It is possible to hit confirm off one hit, it's just very difficult
whats that armor thing, how does it work?
Does sektor's teleport uppercut protect sub-zero in the same way that goro's uppercut does? Like can I go in with 12 and call in sektor to prevent a counter and keep me safe?
In a vídeo Tom said you can armor through the 1st and 2nd hit of 1, 2 and 2,1.
Why I thought this was the hall of fame QB Tom Brady
⛩️Grandmaster Bi Han↩️Sub Zero❄️she is always the best❄️🤛💀↩️
The cameo system makes him a insane thread with scorpion he can do a combo with almost every string he has so he is not bad his damage sucks tho i Hope they bug his damage to 40% meterless instead of that garbage mk11 29%
First step should be
“Get player one right away or leave the match”
This character is not playable until nrs buffs his damage and increase the ice clone duration and
I use bar in my kombos for kool points. Dont kare what tom brady says.
Somebody send this to Jev
I think Subzero Ice Ball Should only be blocked by high Block. not low blocking. I think if Ice Slide is low block, Ice thrust Mid Block, and Ice ball High block. The biggest issue really is most of Subzero arsenal and attacks are nullified by blocking low and the only real attacks to get past it take to long to wind up. Unless im missing something
no sikander? :(
Sub-Zero guide by whom????
Wasn't this guy a dead or alive player?
Bi Han is my main in this Game, I'm very very dangerous with him. Ur best bet stay in the corner💯
Nice vid but honestly the character is borderline unplayable in the competitive scene. Other characters have meterless 40 percent combos he can’t compete at the moment.
I'm disappointed because I thought it was Tom Brady the quarterback who was going to narrate this.
31:13
Clone punch is a cheat trust me it’s like having super range
Idk guys, but with scorpion kameo i menaged to pull 39% with 2 bars and 1 kameo. And from low its 310 damage. So scorpion is definetily best kameo in my opinion
39% for 2 bars and 1 kameo is terrible damage wtf
что можно рассказывать 46 минут о Сабе в МК1?
Just delete his overhead please. Thanks NRS.
Block it
Bruh it’s a different sun zero it’s no Han not quai liang he doesn’t play as zone anymore he’s a lot more agressive in this game stop being weird
You're really trying to tell tom brady about sub zero???
@@jaxfan idk who Tom Brady is bruh
Funny because Tom Brady is terrible at the game.