Top 3 Balls That HOOK No Matter What!
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2022
- Packy Describes his top 3 bowling balls for oil soaked lanes!!
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Packy the king. started watching your videos 3 months back. Just wanted to say you have been a huge inspiration for me and my goal of teaching myself to bowl left handed after my injury. you have shown me it is possible and i shouldn't give up on it. Keep up the good work!
Hopfully a speedy recovery bud!
Storm Crux Prime. Every single time. That ball hits like a bomb thrown through the dry, if you hit it through the oil in the middle it rolls so smooth, flips hard, and just nukes the pocket. So versatile, so beautiful.
I'm a firm believer that the crux prime is the best solid storm has ever released
@@rcar5446 I believe it's a sanded pearl.
Nah, it's got the SPEC solid reactive coverstock
@@rcar5446 you're right, sorry, I was thinking of the omega crux.
I like that ball too, that one and the gravity evolve are money for me on the fresh.
Hi Packy! Love the videos man! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Braden I will!
I just started bowling again. I started with the IQ tour edition first and now I just got my second ball a few weeks ago which is a hy-road pearl. When I started league my average was 140. My average is now pushing 170 and I'm bowling 200 plus games at least once per night. My highest this season has been 268. The no step and one step drills are paying off. I try and practice 3 times a week no matter how tired I am and it's paying off.
Sounds like me. We should bet $100 game
😮
great ball choices. Both are good benchmark balls
@Videos of My Loads 😩 well thats nice for you. Wanna bet $200 a game??
@Videos of My Loads 😩 I'm on tour so tell me where you are at and I will let you know when I'm nearby
The last time I flat ten'ed, I actually moved right and kept my speed firm. That was just what the lane wanted at the time, I was too far left at the start. I would normally move left and slow down/give it more side, but that's when the lanes have broken down enough.
Another great move!
My Asymm ball that has been killing it right now is the Rubicon UC2. Really clean with a 4 1/2" pin. Long angle layout and it has won me some pots. If the Rubicon UC2 is too much I bring out the IQ tour solid (low flare layout)....instead of moving farther in and opening angles. I'm throwing 15-16mph and adding some hand to really make it skid hard haha.
As a right hander when I leave a 10 pin the move i make off of it is moving just a couple centimeter up or back on my start. Moving up makes it go higher and back lighter, so it usually helps!
I take a halfstep forward/back depending on what kind of 10 pin I leave
@@Walt_BotBack for a wrap 10?
Love using my Black Widow Ghost Pearl and Pink Urethane on just about every pattern! they just dont miss!!
for me I getting a radical squatch solid to replace my matrix solid. I'm a right high rev rate slower ball speed player and so plan is basically create a dry spot for me to bounce off of all night. I do that with aggressive solids in the beginning and as the the lanes burn up I ball down. I can go fairly deep but ultimately can't play gutter reliability and often use my sanded tropical surge to end the night depending on how tricky they get.
I have a gem and nova at the top of my bag. Both fantastic bowls that just keep churning and down burn up but and have a ton of traction.
Top of my bag I have the Motiv Jackal Ghost, Motiv Forge Flare, and the Brunswick Vintage Phantom with Surface at 1500 or 2k Grit. They could hook through the Exxon oil slick! 😀
I tried to guess your choices before I watched the video and my picks where 1). Radical Trail Blazer Solid 2). DV8 Brutal Collision 3). Hammer Envy. We will see how I did. Damn first ball out!!! I did not see Ebonite The One Remix coming or Columbia 300 Cuda! I like how you explained your 3 ball picks. I was totally guessing the 3 balls that would swim through the oil on the fresh. Not which 3 I would use on the transition. My only asymmetric I have is my Hammer Black Widow 2.0.Good Stuff Mr. The House Bowler! :)
My big 3 are all MOTIV pieces. The Jackal Legacy, Forge Flare and Revolt Uprising. Two of them are big surface pieces. One is symmetric one is asymmetric and the other is a little cleaner and more shape down lane. I'm a lefty bowler too but not a two-hander.
I actually use my Remix later in the set, but mine is drilled to go quite a bit longer. One thing I noticed was just how FAST the Remix took lane shine! Its pretty comparable to my OG Knockout, but a little bit longer, and sharper off the breakpoint
Great vid Packy…admittedly I haven’t bowled in a LONG time. When I did bowl I would square up my angle, catch a little more and with a little more speed - I wouldn’t be able to repeat the shots you were making with the Cuda…That would be the only thing I’d be wary of (repeatability) - in the end that is just as (if not more) important than figuring out the angle - I’m not a pro though
Love the vids my man - as always…
~Sean
My go to ball is the Roto Grip Hyper Cell Fused. I back it up with Hammer Dark Legend and finish with a Columbia Piranha. The Hyper Cell does really good. I bowl once a week on House shot and have a 210 average.
Solid comparison... box surface on all of these? Or did you change anything drastic with surfaces?
I’ve been subscribed for over a year now 👍🏻. And it’s funny on how I found this video today, I’m in the market for a heavy oil ball and this just popped up.
I'm a 2 handed lefty too, I took the polish off my ghost pearl with 2000 pad. And would returning it to its original surface help with something like the phantom shot or heavy patterns? I'm trying everything I can before getting another big asym ball.
I love how you caught yourself and stopped from saying “jerk off” and then you still said it anyway😂
😂😂
Top of my bag is the Black widow ghost and the storm nova behind it for the earlier roll as it breaks down. But all three leagues I've bowled in recently have lightened the oil and shortened the pattern so I've been throwing Hammer scorpion and Phaze V symmetrical for over 2 months
I'm currently using a Track Proof Solid. Since switching to 2 hand this year, I feel like I'm having a hard time controlling this ball down lane. I don't know if it's inexperience and getting use to high revs or if the ball is too aggressive for the lanes I'm bowling on.
Hey Packster, just caught this vid. Since you're a Brunswick family staffer, I thought I'd share a success story with some more obscure balls in their line. I'm a speed dominant lefty and I find the asyms work well for me.
A few months ago, I was looking for a heavy oil ball, like a Gem or Physix. My PSO had a C300 Command Solid sitting around that he was looking to, ahem, get rid of. He offered it at a discount since its discontinued. He drilled it strong to start early. This ball has become my #1 out of the bag for the leagues I bowl in 2 different houses. I don't have big revs, maybe 350-375, and I just throw this ball hard and straight up first arrow and it finds its way. I'm up a good 20+ pins on average since using this ball. Only minor adjustments needed towards the end of the session and I never feel the need to change balls. Throwing it in the friction doesn't seem to cause this ball to lose much energy. I hit it up with a used 1000 once a week or so to knock the shine off and its been money for me.
Another Brunswick family winner for me has been the Ebonite Polaris Hybrid. Got it on a huge discount since the PSO goofed and started drilling it for a righty, which I'm not, so he had to plug one of the holes. I love the look of the ball when it gets rolling, very versatile and I can adjust surface when needed.
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Just starting back into bowling after a 30 year layoff, ouch! It was so easy back then with limited choices, couple of questions, please. I have a new Brunswick Zenith re active ball, not drilled yet, hoping I have not made an error in choice. Never had a real large flair, some where in between, did I make a mistake in this choice? What should I be aware of before having it drilled? Any help would be greatly appreciated…..
Yep, thats my exact adjustments...I move in and slow it down with some rotation. If that doesn't work, I pick up my symmetrical solid or pearl and start lofting. The lane break down happens fast at my house, so i usually start this process in game 2 LOL
Back when I threw Brunswick I'd have to say the OG Fury transition to the OG Cuda and finish with the OG 'Tude. It's Packy automatic thumbs up 👍Right handed 10 pin move back 6 inches 7 pin move up 6 inches or one length of your foot (7up 10back)
I had to switch from a hyped solid to a rubicon uc2 and the switch was so worth it, ive never gotten above 190 with my solid and since i got the uc2 a month ago my strike and spare percentage has increased 3 frames each for each game (3 strikes 3 spares, and thats MAX per game) to 6-7 strikes+ or 6-7 spares+ each game. Ive now thrown easily 20 games over 190 with a high game (in league) of 224. Id say the change was definitely worth it. I also only started bowling in may of this year
I'm left handed and just got the most aggressive ball i've ever had. Radical Results solid. Cool ball and working on the release to maximize as a middle rev bowler
I love The One Remix. I used to have the Angular One when it first came out and enjoyed throwing that ball. I just got back into bowling this year and went online and bought The X-Treme Angular One, The Golden One, and The Insanity One. For me they roll up great and I don't leave too many 7 pins. Great video on the different ball comparisons!
Golden One? Jesus that's expensive
@@SovietWarMusic I was able to find it on eBay for 200 or so. Sometimes you can make an offer for less and they might take it.
The Angular One and Complete NV were the 2 go to EBI balls back in the day.
@@remoevans7847 I never bought the Complete NV but I had the Total NV. How much difference was there between the two?
@@ixigreenmanixi The Total was a earlier reading, more continuous motion. The Complete was a cleaner, longer skid/flip type of motion for me.
How do these compare to other "strong" balls like the Gem? I have a Gem and a purple pearl which are two completely different balls. I start with the Gem and switch to the urethane when i need more consistency from the lanes but since they are so different it takes some time to adjust. Anything in between those two that you recommend?
Hi Packy! love the vids and im using a black widow black gold. would love to see a review from a two hander like yourself! love from singapore!
I don’t know if I can get a black widow gold 🥺
Love the videos. Have you ever reviewed the Pyramid line of bowling balls? I haven't seen any that have really. Is there a reason?
He’s on staff with the Brunswick brands.
The top first game balls I test in practice are Redemption Solid, Black Widow 2,0, Dark Web, and 3D Offset. After one of those wins out, I transition into the Web Tour Hybrid. Ten pin moves that have been drilled into me are half to full board left(right handed) or move up or back a foot.
Start with the Reality Check, move to the Wolverine Dark Moss once the fronts start to burn up or the Cherry Vibe when it gets really dry. When the back end gets burned up I have an old pin-down Black Widow Black/Gold I use to control things the last few feet.
right now i got a dv8 intimidator pearl with surface. also a storm hyroad max. both are great on fresh oil
The asym I have in my league bag is my black widow legend. I use it primarily on the sport pattern. I also have the Cuda for the sport pattern. As a third, I want to add the Dv8 Hellcat to my bag as another asym. As a lefty, If I’m flattening 7 usually move in.
I'm a one handed lefty with fewer revs than you so I usually start out the night with an Ebonite Envision. If there is lower volume and I need to get further down the lane I switch to a Polaris Hybrid. I have a Radical Innovator and Quantum Bias Pearl that I typically use for Game 3 when the solids and hybrids start losing too much energy before they hit the pins.
The only assym I have which is at the top of my bag is the Radical Innovator. I haven't got a solid assym because I haven't really needed a super strong ball yet. That being said my first tournament is this month on the 18th.
900 Global Reality with surface at 1000 grit is my most powerful asymetric ball. Love it!
I rock the Motiv Revolt LE and Venom Shock, but I am an OG C300 guy, back with the Surge, Piranha, and original Cuda, so seeing it back in the lineup makes me curious if I should give it a go.
I usually start with the Radical Trailblazer then switch to Storm Dark Code when I need the ball to get further down the lane.
That trailblazer is a monster!
I took a long hiatus from the game and came back this year (~15 year break) and was fortunate enough to pick up a couple balls. My first one out of the bag is my Hammer 3D offset that was gifted to me. I am looking to get something with a bit more natural hook for my revs. At ~15-17 mph I’m not launching it down the lane. Would love to hear suggestions on my next stronger ball that I can bring to league night.
I have an axiom solid. But want to look at getting a new ball soon. Love the vids. Keep it up
I bowl with a roto grip riot and it hooks like a beast. Once that happens I switch to a mission unknown with no finger holes and it hits the pocket nicely.
Top 3 is definitely the halo vision with polish on it, a ghost jackal with box surface, third is a tie between the honey badger tour gold and the pro motion. If I flat 10 then I usually drop my speed slightly, usually works.
The Storm Nova has been a beast for me. It's also super versatile
Same ball I use
Just bought one. I love it.
I was throwing an older storm invasion as my asym. But unfortunately it cracked 89 percent around the ball, so today I went with something as similar as I could find, and went with the storm proton physix. Can't wait to see how it throws
First ball out of my bag right now is my gb4 hybrid followed by my one encore and then into my track archetype if needed. Last few weeks I haven’t even needed to get out of my gb4 hybrid, just been manipulating hand position and release to get the same back end motion all night.
Honestly was looking for a video like this. In the East region qualifier in January, I couldn’t hook my hell raiser blaze or widow 2.0 on the dragon pattern
I recently acquired the Radical Innovator and I really love it. When it is too strong, I go to my Radical Payack!
With the finger grip tape do u use a not to tight drilling like a little loose drilling?
definitely reality at the top of my bag, im able to create some crazy angles and play straighter when i need to and when it gets a little too strong i can ball down to a zen soul.
I use a Mythic Jackal. Quite lengthy and retains energy like crazy! It is like it just never runs out of power. It will put me in my place if I get sloppy though, too far right and it will take off and not even wave goodbye.
I have that ball and loved that ball, then this current league im in this fall the ball became utterly unusable, no hook at all and no clue why, my tank rampage urethane is outhooking it rn and i wish i was lying.
@@MotivGuy94 I also have a Tag Cannon that I have used for 5 years now. It started to die. Got it baked and resurfaced and it's been good for another 8 months now.
I bowl league on tuesday nights and i have both the hammer black widow 2.0 and the ghost pearl as my asyms but also have the storm hy road max as an aysm piece i have in my bag with 1500 grit of surface on it love the videos packy and the rest of the house. I met packy at junior gold and it was an expierence i would love to do back to keep up the work fellas
Sanded Hyper Cell Fused hits different, love it
I have a Columbia 300 savage and phase three both 15 lbs . Some times I have a problem with my wrist turned on my release . I have a wrist band but was wondering if I should go to a 14 lb. Ball .
I just had the one drilled, sweet piece throw anywhere reads in the pattern and a great shape coming out and scatters the pins like a grenade...
I only have a Brunswick power groove reactive, got it forever ago before i started hooking, hated it then, love it now. she hooks hard, but now i need to figure out how to get it down lane in the 3rd game.
I go old school with a virtual gravity nano for super oily conditions. It came out 12 years ago but has minimal games on it. After that, I have a Motiv Trident and then the 3D Offset.
I love my one remix on house shot. Being a lefty also helps lol
I also love mine!!
Top of my bag is the storm parallax, which I like to go to if my cosmos isn’t finding home. Just switched to two handed a few weeks ago😅
Believe it or not when I'm bowling on lanes a bit oily, I use my Roto-Grip Haywire. I know it an older ball but it still works when I need it. Others balls in my arsenal are: Super Nova, Storm Parlex, Zen Global, Crux Prime. I'm thinking about adding a Purple Hammer.
My asym big ball is a dark code(which Prather recommended from one of your guys vids). I absolutely love the ball hits like a tank. Bowled a 205 last night with it
Cool tech bowling the house bowling packy
Hammer redemption Pearl a couple years ago was my fav ball, this past season the dv8 Medusa was my go to, what an underrated ball that was. But this season I’m going to replace it with the track paragon pearl, imo this new paragon is the best looking bowling ball I’ve ever seen color-wise
the bowl at the top of my bag is the brunswick tenacity for sure!
I enjoy your videos but... do you have any suggestions for some of us amateur bowlers that throw just a straight ball??? That being said to I use a ball from the 1960's...
Currently the Motiv Mythic Jackal is at the top of my bag. It's my #1 through the whole night. Although I do plan on getting more bowling balls but right now i only have 3 that really work for me
been watching you a lot since started bowling, still trying to get my first 300 only been bowling 6 months right now i have a beginner ball looking to get a stronger ball not sure what to get though, i'm starting to bowl a league next year.
Hammer 3d offset is number 1, number 2 is the hammer envy, and third is the hammer black widow 2.0. I love the 3d offset it looks the best for the way I throw and it has the best reaction from anywhere on the lane and on any condition I can make that ball work for me
2.0 was a beast for me!
My two benchmark bowling balls - Motiv Rogue Assassin & Storm IQ Tour Emerald.
I use a Hammer 3-D Offset Attack. I am a lefty (single handed) and really like the aggressive backend.
What is your layout in your dv8 brutal collision?
RST-X2 in my bag! Love it!
I use a few different bowling balls I have a radical ludicrous which I love it’s never done me wrong it’s stayed in good shape after 4 years of use I also have a radical bonus it’s not an a symmetric ball but hooks very well for me I’m going to end up getting a storm super nova the pro shop manager at my local alley said it’d be perfect for me
Usually start with my Black Widow 2.0. But just got a 3d offset haven't thrown it yet but excited to see how she does Friday league.
Any tips on dryer lanes or lanes that dry quicker than other locations lanes
In reference to 10 pin adj, if oil in heads, move in and slow hook it. If heads dry, move right and more up back.
My most used ball is a gallop gold straight up in-between 4 and 6 depends on oil usage in house shot.
What surface did you put on your The One Remix?
My 3 are 3-d Offset, 3-d offset, and 3-d offset because I only have one ball! Been trying to promote The House to hit that 90k and maybe win another. Great content man. You and Keven are why I swapped to 2h! Curious when you say lower the ball speed, how much lower are you talking? Feel like my natural range is only like 1mph variance between high and low and anything outside of that feels so unnatural.
Radical innovater and I just threw my first 300 with it yesterday
If I leave a corner pin I normally start with moving either forward or backwards and if it is still either to sharp or too much angle I'll move forward and to the left or right and start slowing my speed down until I can find the shot again
Love that!
Hammer Obsession
I took my wifes Black Widow {2003 - 1.0 i call it} from her cuz she said it hurt her fingers. 19 yr old !! 6 mo ago i shot my highest 3 game series with (im 2 hander- 67 yrs old) , It was pin driiled nxt to fingers used to go BIG HOOK LEFT TO RIGHT TO LEFT But after so many sweatings now it just goes down & in !!!! boom - Ssoooooooo, I bought the Widow 2,0 !!!!!! drilled it same way BANG into the pocket !! I even learned to move left !!! I used to put my lft foot 17 bds left of ctr & throw right ok but at 39 board i couldnt get it to make the turn back BUT NOW !!!! after several of yur videos i sometimes stand in front of the ball return & throw with my left foot on the 48 or 50 board !!! thanks
The reality my god the ball is nut. Got mine pin down for the first time and I love it
Track Paragon Solid is at the top of my bag, that ball never seems to stop hooking
I so wanted to love the Cuda but after throwing it at a Demo day last week I didn't love it for my game. I was playing typical house shot from left side for me which is targeting between 2nd and third arrow out to 6-7 and was striking with everything I tried. The Cuda went straight like a plastic ball. Had to go 12 boards right and play up 6 to hit pocket. Made no sense but I couldn't buy it. Maybe next year. Right now my Phaze 2 is probably my earliest hooking first ball out of the bag on league night ball then I transition into Night Road Pearl. Love the channel learned a lot from watching you attack the left side
Hey Packy when I had some really oily Lanes then I dug out I always kept it in my car but I would run out to the car and get believe it or not my Johnny petraglia LT 48 now what I had done to the surface of the ball is I had taken some 600 grit sandpaper and sanded a rough surface on the entire ball that way I was able to get some grip on lanes that when I say oily I'm talking about you see a rooster tail as the ball's going down the lane now you asked what do I do for corner pins what I normally did was if I threw a shot and I left at 10:00 then I'd spare it and wait till I came up to that lane again and if I tend it again then what I would do with at the approach I would move one shoe length in front of the dots and that way I did change the angle to the pocket without having to use ball speed now I don't know about you but I think controlling ball speed is probably one of the hardest things to master now I've actually quit bowling like 5 years ago because my knees just couldn't take that bending anymore it's kind of funny cuz bowling at North Rock I wouldn't virtually never seeing what I call wet Lanes they were pretty consistent week after week but when you go to other houses in Wichita that used to be around that aren't any more like boulevard or flight planes on Harry and they you never knew what condition you got and one thing I have to say is that I was a card carrying PBA member who just went to regionals around this area but I didn't have any sponsors and you know could not afford to go out and buy every ball that my heart desired such as yourself and the other active PBA tour members you know pretty much can get on any bowling ball they want drilled for them and they don't have to pay very much for him if anything
Big fan! I use a 1999 storm meteor flash like it's a urethane, game 2 I move 20 left and hammer on a melee jab
I use a Black Widow 2.0. Always plays well through the oil and I can keep moving as the lanes dry up. Ball moves super well and even more so since I’m a 2 finger bowler.
Hammer is garbage
dark code is my main asymmetric in the bag, i also have a speed and love them both immensely
7:57 PACKY lol
Hammer Envy Tour is my first ball out. Adjust from there.
Track Paragon and Radical Trailblazer Solid are my go to as my stronger pieces. Can't always tgrow them, but they are there.
Hyper cell Skid is at the top of my bag.. I need more bowling balls lol
How about for someone who comes straight from the back of the ball and thru? I cant seem to get on the side so i guess i have 0 rotation. I have the zen soul 14lb and need help. I recorded myself and i think everything is wrong. Help
I end on 14 to 16 board roll on the 5 6 or 4 board and barely get to the head pin. I let go at the top of the ball not off to the side. I can't get it. I pitched fast pitch forever and I guess I pitch it. Lol
My favorite asym is the Black Widow 2.0. that ball hooks from anywhere, and just has a great shape to my eyes. If it's too early, I switch to the black widow ghost.
Hell Raiser Blaze is my top ball in my bag with the Return second
Proton physix. Love it