@@dancarter6044 for one, without Suriname the US wouldn't have been able to build so many fighter planes. The war wouldn't have ended how it did without those. War and history are more than battles, what was shown in this docu was at least as important, goes for what ww2 meant for what happened in Suriname and their rise to freedom afterward as well
Thank you very much Stef. Suriname has always fascinated me . Very few people know that on a continent where mainly Spanish is spoken, there is a little country where Dutch is spoken
I'm from Indonesia, a little story about my grandmother was born during the Dutch East Indies era and she was older than Queen Juliana, my grandmother once told me that she remembered and participated in celebrating the birth Queen Juliana in Surabaya . Regardless of the past history of our country and our predecessors, I don't mind because we live in different times and live our own lives. To our relatives in Suriname who have Indonesian blood, may your country and your lives be prosperous
Here in south América ww2 topic has a similar story: USA enforces the monroe doctrine (América for the americans) and they start operating bases in these countries. Interesting too see the governor Kielstra loyal to the exiled kingdom, while he could ve created more autônomy for the suriname nation. Thanks for sharing the vídeo !!
My grandfather was stationed in Suriname with the Americans. He got an infection that turned into sepsis, was in a coma for a few days... when he woke up, his men had left for Europe for the Italian campaign. But he contributed to the war effort by providing really good data about how penicillin will actually cure someone of sepsis.
It could, in theory, be just my memory, since it's been a long time since I was in school, but I can't remember a single history lesson on this matter. Although it was my favorite subject! Anyhow, thanks for this catch-up, meester 👍 Greets from Grun' 🇳🇱, T.
What a treat for history fans ! Fascinating to see photographs and film that, for an English - speaking audience, are seemingly impossible to see. Not to mention that French, Danish, American, British, and Dutch political and linguistic presences throughout both the Caribbean as well as the Latin American mainland ( from Belize to the Virgin Islsnds, Suriname to Guadalupe) are so often overlooked.
Thank you very much for making this interesting video, Stefan. I've searched about this theme a few months ago and found some information on the dutch language site from Wikipedia by translating it with drag and drop into the german language, because there was written only very little about it in the german and also english language. At some other dutch sites I could translate it by Google Chrome and read, but never found a video about it.
I've really been digging your series about the minor powers and colonies during the war. You're not going to see that information almost anywhere else.
Hi Stefan. A big hello from India. I am curious to know about the prisoner exchanges between the axis and allies during the course of the war. Can you please help?
An informative and wonderful introduction narration about Suriname 🇸🇷 ( Dutch Asian colonial) political circumstances during WW2... video shared by an excellent ( History Hustle) channel introduced by Respectful 🙏 Sir Stefan... thanksfor sharing
Great footage, Stefan! I would like to learn more about Suriname and even its present state of affairs, By the way, I did not see any "Click here" Images. Did they get missed???
A relative of mine was one of the 146 members of the Dutch nazi party from the Dutch East Indies which were held in Suriname. This only came to light when a Dutch journalist contacted me and some other relatives some years ago and came as a bit of a surprise. I wish I knew more about his.
It is also quite interesting to know the fact that those interested in negotiating Suriname's independence were the Creole elite, while the Hindustani and Javanese did not agree that Suriname achieved independence.
Nice to see you here in south america. Must be hot over there in Suriname. Here, down the 30 parallel, is a mild raining day with 14 ºC at this season Obrigado, Stefan! ヽ(͡◕ ͜ʖ ͡◕)ﾉ 🍀 🇧🇷
Thanks for covering this niche topic well. Have never been to Surinam but I researched and wrote a couple of the English Wikipedia articles about some of the internment camps you mentioned. A difficult time with plenty of injustices against some innocent interned people and also plenty of creepy Nazi/far right supporters mixed in with them. For example of the innocent ones Ernest Douwes Dekker, an Indonesian nationalist, and Lo Hartog van Banda, a Dutch cartoonist who had been a Conscientious objector. They weren't Nazis /NSB of course but they were still interned with them
About 500 of the Surinamese soldiers that made up their battalion were trained initially in my hometown of Casino, NSW, Australia at the Dutch run, Camp Victory in 1942. Not only were they paid less than Dutch soldiers of the KNIL, they were only paid in worthless Japanese Invasion money. In addition, they not allowed into the town for shopping and recreation, due to racist discrimination by their Dutch officers not wanting them to mix with the local White residents. There were also concerns of intermingling with the local Australian Aboriginal population. Later they were sent north into the Pacific campaigns. The Camp Victory was then turned over to a KNIL repair depot and for Air Force training, while also being used to house political prisoners, formerly from the Tanah Merah prison, later for Indonesian soldiers of the KNIL at the end of the war and the declaration of Indonesian Independence.
That was a nice, obscure topic that never entered my mind. However, it does leave me with questions. What happened to the German prisoners? What did French Guiana do when the Germans invaded Vichy France? Take care.
are you talking about the German internees at Copieweg camp? I wrote about it a bit on Wikipedia: "After the war ended in 1945, the German detainees in the camp were not allowed to leave immediately, as in the camp at Jodensavanne.[22] Some authority figures wanted to deport all of them to Germany, whether or not they had non-German wives.[22] However, there were not enough ships to transport them, and so at first 22 German men who had married Surinamese wives were released.[23][24][22] Later, a handful of other Germans were allowed to be released to Surinam and 35 more were sent to Venezuela.[22] There was talk of sending the remaining internees on a ship to Amsterdam in May 1946, but it did not happen.[25] It was only in February 1947 that the remaining 80 German men, mostly missionaries, were released from the camp and expelled from Surinam and not permitted to return.[2] These sailed to Amsterdam aboard the Bloemfontijn, which also picked up other former German detainees in the Antilles; most of these deportees eventually ended up in East Germany in the area under Soviet occupation.[22][26]"
What do you know about the Surinamese conscripts/soldiers in the police war in Indonesia and also in the Korean War of 1953? Did you know that the South Korean governments honor/commemorate these Surinamese and have built a Korean monument for them in Suriname at the DNA building in Suriname?
Well, we suffered a bit more, got oppressed a bit more, what little we had became less, we had no money but they asked for money, etc etc we didn't leave for the Netherlands to support them, there was more hope of a good life over there than there was in Suriname because the Dutch didn't really care for their former slaves who got deliberately placed on the back foot after the abolishing of slavery in favor of the indentured servants from the (west)Indies
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Thank you for informing us about a part of WWII I knew literally nothing about!
Thanks for watching.
A real vital battle on par with Stalingrad.
@@dancarter6044 for one, without Suriname the US wouldn't have been able to build so many fighter planes.
The war wouldn't have ended how it did without those.
War and history are more than battles, what was shown in this docu was at least as important, goes for what ww2 meant for what happened in Suriname and their rise to freedom afterward as well
Thank you very much Stef. Suriname has always fascinated me . Very few people know that on a continent where mainly Spanish is spoken, there is a little country where Dutch is spoken
Same here
I’ve been. Love it. There is also a memorial for troops from Suriname who fought in Korea.
I'm from Indonesia, a little story about my grandmother was born during the Dutch East Indies era and she was older than Queen Juliana, my grandmother once told me that she remembered and participated in celebrating the birth Queen Juliana in Surabaya .
Regardless of the past history of our country and our predecessors, I don't mind because we live in different times and live our own lives.
To our relatives in Suriname who have Indonesian blood, may your country and your lives be prosperous
Thanks for sharing this.
suriname, is one of those countries, you never really think of, during ww2, but is one of the most interesting,countries
Very interesting, I've never considered this aspect of the war.
I vaguely remember reading about the Dutch helping with U-boat patrols along with Brazil and the U.S. operating from Suriname
Een stuk onderbelichte geschiedenis van WO2. Dank om hier wat helderheid aan te geven, Stefan.
Bedankt voor je bericht Marcel!
Holländisch is so süss.
@@g.f.w.6402 Richtig
Suriname is such an interesting country.
Here in south América ww2 topic has a similar story: USA enforces the monroe doctrine (América for the americans) and they start operating bases in these countries. Interesting too see the governor Kielstra loyal to the exiled kingdom, while he could ve created more autônomy for the suriname nation.
Thanks for sharing the vídeo !!
Thanks for your reply Thiago.
Alweer een leuke video. Bedankt. 👍
Dank voor het kijken.
My grandfather was stationed in Suriname with the Americans. He got an infection that turned into sepsis, was in a coma for a few days... when he woke up, his men had left for Europe for the Italian campaign. But he contributed to the war effort by providing really good data about how penicillin will actually cure someone of sepsis.
Thanks for sharing.
learn something new today may your travels be full of more adventures to share with us
1:44 beautiful greens and view.
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It could, in theory, be just my memory, since it's been a long time since I was in school, but I can't remember a single history lesson on this matter. Although it was my favorite subject! Anyhow, thanks for this catch-up, meester 👍
Greets from Grun' 🇳🇱, T.
That was really interesting Stefan, thanks. Enjoy the travels
.Dank Stefan.....weer een stukje voor mij onbekende geschiedenis bekender gemaakt !
Viel het jou niet op dat de gouverneur van Suriname een friese naam draagt?
Bravo 👏 Stefan Great review, no stone unturned 💪🏻✌️❤️ Cheers
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Thank you for this episode. I was previously unaware of Surinam's role during WWII, especially bauxite.
I never thought about WW II here. Thank you for this information.
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It's interesting to learn of how the European powers' colonies fared during WW2.
Thanks Mr. Adenauer.
Very cool you are in Suriname stefan!
Yes, was a nice visit. Now in Colombia 🇨🇴
@@HistoryHustle enjoy!
Interesting as usual, thank you.
I can only parrot what others have said. Thank you for making this video.
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I always wondered what happened to these Dutch colonies. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! I also made a made a video on the Dutch Antilles in WW2.
You always come up the great details. Good job.
Thanks Mike.
Great video. I love obscure history. I am looking forward to your Suriname independence video
What a treat for history fans ! Fascinating to see photographs and film that, for an English - speaking audience, are seemingly impossible to see. Not to mention that French, Danish, American, British, and Dutch political and linguistic presences throughout both the Caribbean as well as the Latin American mainland ( from Belize to the Virgin Islsnds, Suriname to Guadalupe) are so often overlooked.
Thanks Stefan, looking forward to your video about their independence.
Maybe you could do an episode on Curaçao, Aruba, Bonaire etc while you’re in the neighborhood.
I did, but it'll take a while before it's done.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, it's a greatttt topicccccccc
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Very informative video thanks 👍
Thanks for your response Adrian.
@@HistoryHustle you're welcome and thanks for referencing Aussie forces in Borneo
Thank you very much for making this interesting video, Stefan. I've searched about this theme a few months ago and found some information on the dutch language site from Wikipedia by translating it with drag and drop into the german language, because there was written only very little about it in the german and also english language. At some other dutch sites I could translate it by Google Chrome and read, but never found a video about it.
"Instructor".. thanks for the lastest briefing..the "attention" to detail... adds to the continuity..of "subject matter"!!!
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I've really been digging your series about the minor powers and colonies during the war. You're not going to see that information almost anywhere else.
Awesome to read. Thanks!
Hi Stefan. A big hello from India. I am curious to know about the prisoner exchanges between the axis and allies during the course of the war. Can you please help?
Amazing video!
Taking advantage of the fact that you are in South America, could you make a video about Brazil in the WWII?
If I get there then for sure!
An informative and wonderful introduction narration about Suriname 🇸🇷 ( Dutch Asian colonial) political circumstances during WW2... video shared by an excellent ( History Hustle) channel introduced by Respectful 🙏 Sir Stefan... thanksfor sharing
Great footage, Stefan! I would like to learn more about Suriname and even its present state of affairs, By the way, I did not see any "Click here" Images. Did they get missed???
A relative of mine was one of the 146 members of the Dutch nazi party from the Dutch East Indies which were held in Suriname. This only came to light when a Dutch journalist contacted me and some other relatives some years ago and came as a bit of a surprise. I wish I knew more about his.
Very interesting to read. Thanks for sharing.
Heel interessant, van die dingen waar hier in Nederland op school nooit wat over verteld werd
Dank voor je !
That was realy interessing!
Thank you. BZ
Weren't there a dozen or so Serinamese with the PIB on D Day?
I was not able to find that out actually. But you could be right yes!
Props to actually flying to Suriname to film this lol
Thanks 😁👍
This is a very insightful video, Can you do one on neighboring guyana 🇬🇾?
Very interesting. I read that the Dutch and English traded New Amsterdam (New York) for Suriname after the 2nd Anglo-Dutch war circa 1667 approx
Yes that was at the peace of Breda. In that time we did not realize that Nieuw Amsterdam was more worth than Surinam.
It is also quite interesting to know the fact that those interested in negotiating Suriname's independence were the Creole elite, while the Hindustani and Javanese did not agree that Suriname achieved independence.
Thanks for sharing. I pointed this out in my recent video on Surinamese independence.
I know that Guyana supplied the bulk of Bauxite for the Allies; ore for Aluminium. Game changing!
True.
You mean Suriname
Nice to see you here in south america. Must be hot over there in Suriname. Here, down the 30 parallel, is a mild raining day with 14 ºC at this season
Obrigado, Stefan! ヽ(͡◕ ͜ʖ ͡◕)ﾉ 🍀 🇧🇷
an Interesting story to know.
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for covering this niche topic well. Have never been to Surinam but I researched and wrote a couple of the English Wikipedia articles about some of the internment camps you mentioned. A difficult time with plenty of injustices against some innocent interned people and also plenty of creepy Nazi/far right supporters mixed in with them. For example of the innocent ones Ernest Douwes Dekker, an Indonesian nationalist, and Lo Hartog van Banda, a Dutch cartoonist who had been a Conscientious objector. They weren't Nazis /NSB of course but they were still interned with them
Heb je een aflevering over de Antillen tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog?
Opgenomen op Curacao, maar zal pas over een tijd verschenen. Heb nog veel editwerk op stapel.
Airport Zanderij was the biggest Airport in South - America during the World War II
Ok👍
So intersting
Thanks!
hope you do a video on the 29th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Italian)
Ther are videos on youtube which handle the Italian Waffen SS division.
About 500 of the Surinamese soldiers that made up their battalion were trained initially in my hometown of Casino, NSW, Australia at the Dutch run, Camp Victory in 1942. Not only were they paid less than Dutch soldiers of the KNIL, they were only paid in worthless Japanese Invasion money. In addition, they not allowed into the town for shopping and recreation, due to racist discrimination by their Dutch officers not wanting them to mix with the local White residents. There were also concerns of intermingling with the local Australian Aboriginal population. Later they were sent north into the Pacific campaigns. The Camp Victory was then turned over to a KNIL repair depot and for Air Force training, while also being used to house political prisoners, formerly from the Tanah Merah prison, later for Indonesian soldiers of the KNIL at the end of the war and the declaration of Indonesian Independence.
Thanks for sharing. I heard about racism by Australians towards them as well.
That was a nice, obscure topic that never entered my mind. However, it does leave me with questions. What happened to the German prisoners? What did French Guiana do when the Germans invaded Vichy France? Take care.
are you talking about the German internees at Copieweg camp? I wrote about it a bit on Wikipedia:
"After the war ended in 1945, the German detainees in the camp were not allowed to leave immediately, as in the camp at Jodensavanne.[22] Some authority figures wanted to deport all of them to Germany, whether or not they had non-German wives.[22] However, there were not enough ships to transport them, and so at first 22 German men who had married Surinamese wives were released.[23][24][22] Later, a handful of other Germans were allowed to be released to Surinam and 35 more were sent to Venezuela.[22] There was talk of sending the remaining internees on a ship to Amsterdam in May 1946, but it did not happen.[25] It was only in February 1947 that the remaining 80 German men, mostly missionaries, were released from the camp and expelled from Surinam and not permitted to return.[2] These sailed to Amsterdam aboard the Bloemfontijn, which also picked up other former German detainees in the Antilles; most of these deportees eventually ended up in East Germany in the area under Soviet occupation.[22][26]"
Boxite is the resource for the Aluminum.
Yes.
A lot came fro
Guyana. I have visited there a lot.
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What do you know about the Surinamese conscripts/soldiers in the police war in Indonesia and also in the Korean War of 1953? Did you know that the South Korean governments honor/commemorate these Surinamese and have built a Korean monument for them in Suriname at the DNA building in Suriname?
Perhaps something for the future.
1:55 ""Siriname borded french Guyana"" ?????????? WHAT!!! How can one country bord another ??
*bordered.
BTW bauxite is pronounced BOX IYTE
I see.
Hi. When you cover Curaçao, please don’t forget to mention her unique role in saving many European Jews.
Recorded a vide on Curaçao. Dunno when it will be out.
Not everything you are telling innthe video is ok.
Please explain.
Suriname didn't wanna be independent
The elites did.
Sami mawon .. podo wae
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Well, we suffered a bit more, got oppressed a bit more, what little we had became less, we had no money but they asked for money, etc etc we didn't leave for the Netherlands to support them, there was more hope of a good life over there than there was in Suriname because the Dutch didn't really care for their former slaves who got deliberately placed on the back foot after the abolishing of slavery in favor of the indentured servants from the (west)Indies
Ok.
get your facs right
Explain at least