It feels almost as if the mod was designed so Star Wars ships were horrifically overpowered for some reason. Of course, it's extremely difficult to compare vessels from different shows, but in a game like this, you need some element of balance (which is why the Enterprise G needs nerfing somewhat). You would've been better off just ramming the Star Destroyer with the Excalibur... or use the Breen to drain their power.
Older starships have megaton range weapons. The invisible hand, grievous’s flagship was said to have the power of a magnitude 10 earthquake at full power
I agree with you. A Star destroyers turbo lasers are powerful but nothing like phasers and photons. Even klingon ships don't win that fast. Definitely a byass in the program.
Christ, if whoever made the ship mods made the Victory that overpowered, I dread how OP an actual Imperial will be. Though, perhaps it's unsurprising given how insanely overpowered the Millennium Falcon is...
The Imperial ship is so overpowered. But, also like a WWII battleship, it may have big guns, but its range and targeting systems are so limited that those starships need only to stay out of visual range, as the Imperial targeting systems are limited to visual range (more or less), move around a bit and spam the Star Destroyer with torpedoes from a safe standoff distance. At 2000 km the starships could easily avoid any turbolaser fire. Or simply get behind it and pummel it. It is a very limited ship compared to Star Trek ships.
starship phaser rangers are between 200,000km to 350,000km in range. the furthest range for star destroyers are 5500km Fed starships can also manouvre at three quarters the speed of light. star wars ships are limited when slower than light, especially star destroyers fed ships mid sized can produce 5000TJ and ISDs can produce 500tj [64 TeraJoules is equivelant to the atom bomb dropped on hiroshima] so, a fed ship could stay even 10,000km and drain whatever shields the SID had and then rip it apart with the phasers
The funny thing is that *Victory I-class Star Destroyers (which is what you used, not an Imperator I-class) make sense as being able to take on Starfleet ships at close range due to how powerful their turbolasers (plasma cannons) are and how many of them there are on the ship.
Turbolasers and Laser cannons in SW are really Gas Plasma Lasers which uses a laser to accelerate particles (the plasma ) to very high % of lightspeed. The Goa'uld from Stargate are said to use a similar type of weapon
I'm not surprised 1 turbo laser shot is measured around the gigaton range and while not as accurate as a phaser shot there are multiple hits landing from the multiple turbolaser batteries on the star Destroyer.
I wonder if there's a comparable mod with the Super Star Destoyer, the Executor (Vader's Flag ship). I'd be keen to see how that - and it's death squadron- goes against the collective.
I think you're right, the Defiant would have the maneuverability to evade those turbolasers. But I was right, I thought turbolasers would be enough to collapse Federation shields. I know the best locations to attack a star destroyer, but you'd have to use manual targeting. First, take out the large spheres near the bridge...those are reinforced shield generators...then target their bridge directly...the torpedoes should get through. (Yes, I've watched too much sci-fi) 😆
Realistically any Star Wars ship wouldn't even be able to penetrate the shields of even the weakest Star Trek ship. Laser weapons are considered comedically antiquated by Star Trek standards. Concussion missiles? Really? Meanwhile phasers and photon torpedoes would literally vaporize whole chunks of a Star Destroyer. The only advantage a Star Destroyer might have is size. It's big enough to ram ships effectively. However, Star Trek ships aren't just metal. They are actively reinforced with structural integrity fields and shields. It would be far worse than ramming an asteroid. Anyway, still cool to see them in the game. It's just not an accurate representation of any of the actual technical differences between the two universes.
A turbo laser has an effective range of 1200km federation phasers have a range of 300000km so does not matter how powerful starwars weapons are the star destroyer would be obliterated before it got into range of the federation ships.
There are many factors your not taking to account Philip when it comes to a tech battle between Star Wars and Star Trek. Phasers may have range. But they require an amount of time on a target to be effective, Also has we have seen in everything from original series, Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, Discovery, and all of the Trek films, despite that range the battles take place relatively in close quarters. Another factor to consider is the fact that ships like Victory class are designed to take a pounding in combat from the very weapons it wields. They're also the countermeasures used by Star Destroyers to foil long range weaponry which is why they rely a lot on fighters for both extended firepower and distractions. As a fan of Star Wars Star Trek and many other franchises I enjoy seeing cross over comparative battles to see the pluses and minuses in each technology. What is really annoying is the fact that because of Star Trek the Next Generation the kids who grow up watching that show are the adults who believe that Star Trek is the top of the Sci-Fi food chain for everything when in fact it's not.
@@ldarksong Nothing you said is true. Phasers in the original Star Trek, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, and even Discovery are typically seen destroying targets in the instant the phaser makes contact, and there are NO countermeasures to long-range weapons seen on Star Destroyers at all.
@@Idazmi7 Everything I said is true. Looking at every battle ever filmed in the Star Trek franchise you'll have some targets being taken out with one shot, yes. They're also targets that have taken multiple phaser hits from multiple ships and are still standing. You can reference the Dominion war from Star Trek Deep Space Nine for example of that if need be. The electronic countermeasures I mentioned in regards to Star Wars tech is within the Star wars Expanded Universe novels, The Star wars novel Outbound Flight comes to mind from the top of my head as a good example. Not to forget the final battle scene in Return of the Jedi. Roughly speaking it has been a part of their technology and strategic warfare for about 40,000 years based on their lore. Hence the need for the viewports with enhanced tactical capabilities and the fighters. Additionally it is true that due to the firepower being thrown left and right Star Wars type vessels, especially The Imperials, are designed with armor and shields with the full intent to take the kind of pounding that is superior to even heavy phasers. Remember phasers are a combination of particle beam and laser while in comparison the lasers especially turbolasers in Star Wars are a combination of laser and plasma. The former does a type of kinetic damage while the latter is pretty much being hit by a little piece of the sun. Star Wars type vessels can take that hit far better than a Star Trek vessel. And the creators of the mod for Star Wars forgot a very important weapon in that arsenal. Ion beams, which ions are the complete bane for Star Trek vessels. Back to the long range countermeasures. Technically the torpedoes are the weapon of choice in Star Trek while the lasers are the weapon of choice for Star Wars due to the ability to jam long-range guidance systems that while they do not completely foil targeting systems of weapons such as missiles and torpedoes they do make it difficult for a positive lock on to score direct hit. Kind of like fighting in a nebula which disrupts phasor locks as demonstrated in Star Trek 2 The wrath of Khan. Anyway if you want to have a bias in favor of Star Trek that's up to you. But have a look around before you do so. There are certain things you are missing when it comes to a comparison.
@@ldarksong _"Everything I said is true."_ If it was, I wouldn't be so quick and casual to contradict you. _"(...) You can reference the Dominion war from Star Trek Deep Space Nine for example of that if need be."_ Nothing you said is true of the Dominion War, either. Basically, you're ignoring every scene where torpedoes are actually fired, ignoring the existence of armor (ablative or otherwise) and asserting weaknesses that do not exist. And if you think I'd bother bluffing, almost the entire Dominion War can be seen here on UA-cam - including the part where a small fleet destroyed 30% of a planet with standard weapons in mere seconds. As for your Star Wars drivel, I don't even think *you* believe any of that nonsense: Rogue One is a clear demonstration of Star Wars' limits, and the Death Star itself - on a single reactor ignition - barely equals casual fire from a Romulan Warbird.
Very OP....SW tech whilst decently advanced is IMHO more along what the Federation used in the 23rd century with the exception of Hyperdrives, Hypercomms and Android tech
Not even: 23rd century Starfleet hand-phasers can utterly vaporize a person, and starship weapons could destroy entire planet surfaces in very short timespans.
If you go on basic premise that has been lined out in lore and canon 2x Galaxy class equals 1x ISD However that is when you ignore one factor..... Orientation The isd has a lot of blind sides And defensive vulnerabilities.... Both of which were not accounted for in this video Yes I would say your victory ISD Is overpowered Because a galaxy class and AN ISD Should be on equal footing to each other. When all strengths and weaknesses are accounted for. Also ISD has shields
To be entirely honest, that is a Victory I-class Star Destroyer going by the engine configuration, its most dangerous aspect would be capable of firing its missiles from 80 launchers that are spread across the hull. Those should be doing the real damage, as for it being able to take out so many ships so quickly, its both expected and unexpected. The person probably used legends information for the ship which is why the Federation ships are going down so fast but I do expect the Victory to have taken rather significant damage from the first three vessels. Also given the fact that the turbolasers were seeming to be hitting the deflector disk rather than other parts of the ship, makes sense why they were being destroyed so easily, that is a rather known weakness for star trek ships and warp cores tend to be rather... how to say, temperamental when being attacked. So when coming down to it, I'm surprised there weren't warp core breaches lol XD All joking aside, as a fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek. This is how I see it, they can both take each other out but the methods of doing so are different. Star Trek are speed cannons that makes up for limited amount of weaponry on their ships by giving them far more power. Star Wars are the slower artillery to make up for their limited speed, their ships are far more heavily armored and have far more weaponry to output more damage against opponents. Regardless of those who want to cite technical manuals, tv show information, Disney canon, original EU, or some other third source, it doesn't matter. This contest to see who is better and who isn't is nonsense, they are shows both designed for different situations, different types of storytelling. One merely uses technology as a plot device and a solution to all things, the other uses mysticism and older feeling technology to advance their stories; they are both the best because of the love and time put into them by both the fans and the writers.
i love SW vs Trek Crossover stuff and i can tell you aside from Hyperdrive which is much better then warp, everything in Trek Beats its equivalent in SW everytime. even warp give you a lot more tactical pliexibily then Hyperdrive as it can be used in system and ships in HD cannot fire at anything.
I would love to see the Scimitar or the Narada go up against the Star Destroyer. But the destroyer is a dedicated warship. Idk what would be a good match for it.
It is an imperial ship but that's not the correct title. You using a "Victory-class Star Destroyer" you can tell by the flaps at the bottom side which house torpedoes.
I disagree with anyone who says a Star Destoryer is more powerful than a Star fleet ship. Just look at how an asteroid took out an Imperial Class Star Destoryer.
Some Starwars fanboys made the Imperial Star Destroyer too powerful. It wouldn't stand a chance against one Star Trek ship, let alone against a fleet. I think the myth of star wars ships being better and faster started in episode four when the Millenium Falcon made it from Tatooine to where Alderan should have been in minutes. What fans don't realize is that it wasn't a scene but rather a sequence, and the actual time for that ship to make it may have been weeks rather than mere minutes. Also, some materials state that the armor for Star Destroyers is neutronium, which is silly. If it were, people would assume the ship was impervious to damage, but that would have been its weak point.
Well federation ships are still designed for science half. The star destroyer is a pure warship designed by an all aggressive empire. I think that’s why
Hate to break to Star Wars fans. Just to be fair I am a fan of both Star Trek, not discovery or Picard, and a fan of Star Wars legends. However according to several tech books from both, Star Trek shields especially tng era would not even get scratched by the Star destroyer weapons. Also the phasers would and photons would absolutely demolish 90% of ships in the Star Wars universe. In addition I would like to point out that a Galaxy class would most likely take out any fleet the empire could throw at it from the 0bby to 4aby.
In my opinion that was horse $#!%. A star destroyer would not have taken out 1 starship so easily let alone 3. And it would have taken only a couple of quantum torpedoes to take it out. And yes I'm a trekie. 😝
"Hahaha!!! Since a Battlegroup of your finest Starships didn't stand a chance against the power of ONE of my old Victorys. Your Federation won't last against the FULL MIGHT of the Cosmic Imperium and my newest, and better, classes in the Imperial Navy, especially against our Victory III's! Prepare to meet. Your. Doom...!"
i see it as a 2 prong problem. star destroyers are just bigger and can damage soak like a borg cube 2.) they can pump out more firepower than anything a starfleet ship is designed to withstand. think of it like this if you think a defiant class pulse phasers are devastating, SD plasma cannons are like this but a SD has them in huge numbers for area denial and saturation braodsides. i'd never think a excalibur class would go down like a paper swan
Star Trek weapons have far greater range than Star wars weapons do. The federation ship should have been able to stand off and obliterate the Star destroyer before the other ship ever got in range.
@@DanBen07 still SW ships are pretty heavily armed in certain areas. of course if you get behind them they're toast. but that's whre the tie fighters come in
@@danieldunlap4077 that's if this emulator was actually show accurate lol. Star trek weapons can hit in the six figure km range. and star trek sublight speeds are far superior to SW sublight speeds.
The two points you raised are highly contentious, as depending in the sources you look at it could go from a Federation ship one-shotting a star destroyer to vice-versa
"Sir, they are now firing LASERS at us!!!!" "Lasers can't even penetrate our navigation shields don't they know that? Mr Worf, drop shields, then beam a photon torpedo into one of its engines and detonate at your leisure."
Just a third through, and I see the Imperial ship's guns are dramatically overpowered. The N-X1 ENTERPRISE, upgraded it's guns, making a single pulse..accidentally..able to vaporize a mountain cluster. 200 hundred years later, that should 10 to 12 times bigger results..at minimum, in my opinion. STAR WARS guns, aside from moon sized planet killer guns, the latest Disney version of SUPERSTARDISTROIERS..never remotely had the pepper to equal that..typically. Considering what I just said, I ask, what kind of STARDISTROYER is that? Thanks to the last movie, a new kind of STARDISTROYER, has a planet killer gun, each one. They also have stronger smaller guns. Apparently their shields are dumpster dumplings though. Mind you, except for the command towers.?.they may have rather sturdy armor.
That star destroyer is way over powered. Their shields were a joke. And their weapons are so weak compared to a phaser as their weapons are straight laser tech & star trek is particle based
It feels almost as if the mod was designed so Star Wars ships were horrifically overpowered for some reason. Of course, it's extremely difficult to compare vessels from different shows, but in a game like this, you need some element of balance (which is why the Enterprise G needs nerfing somewhat).
You would've been better off just ramming the Star Destroyer with the Excalibur... or use the Breen to drain their power.
Older starships have megaton range weapons. The invisible hand, grievous’s flagship was said to have the power of a magnitude 10 earthquake at full power
Palpatine UNLIMITED POWAAA!
Breen: NO.
The tech manuals make it pretty clear that Star Trek has superior tech in all areas except for the FTL capabilities of Star Wars ships.
I agree with you. A Star destroyers turbo lasers are powerful but nothing like phasers and photons.
Even klingon ships don't win that fast.
Definitely a byass in the program.
That's a Victory class Star Destroyer, the predecessor to the Imperial I seen in Rebels, Rogue One and a New Hope.
I think a certain Galaxy class ship would be able to take it out. A certain overpowered galaxy class ship.
Admiral River's Enterprise-D from All Good Things?
Definitely 💯
@@SeansModelBuildsRiker...lol
@@bigcountry443 Riker's Pimp-hand?
Sure why not, and how about a certain warship made to combat a certain enemy perhaps?
Christ, if whoever made the ship mods made the Victory that overpowered, I dread how OP an actual Imperial will be.
Though, perhaps it's unsurprising given how insanely overpowered the Millennium Falcon is...
I despise god mods.
The Imperial ship is so overpowered. But, also like a WWII battleship, it may have big guns, but its range and targeting systems are so limited that those starships need only to stay out of visual range, as the Imperial targeting systems are limited to visual range (more or less), move around a bit and spam the Star Destroyer with torpedoes from a safe standoff distance. At 2000 km the starships could easily avoid any turbolaser fire. Or simply get behind it and pummel it. It is a very limited ship compared to Star Trek ships.
Or get below it. Star Destroyers were well known for their limited ventral armament. You could kill one easily that way in the X-wing games.
starship phaser rangers are between 200,000km to 350,000km in range. the furthest range for star destroyers are 5500km
Fed starships can also manouvre at three quarters the speed of light. star wars ships are limited when slower than light, especially star destroyers
fed ships mid sized can produce 5000TJ and ISDs can produce 500tj [64 TeraJoules is equivelant to the atom bomb dropped on hiroshima]
so, a fed ship could stay even 10,000km and drain whatever shields the SID had and then rip it apart with the phasers
Target their bridge. An a wing took one out by crashing.
The funny thing is that *Victory I-class Star Destroyers (which is what you used, not an Imperator I-class) make sense as being able to take on Starfleet ships at close range due to how powerful their turbolasers (plasma cannons) are and how many of them there are on the ship.
Turbolasers and Laser cannons in SW are really Gas Plasma Lasers which uses a laser to accelerate particles (the plasma ) to very high % of lightspeed. The Goa'uld from Stargate are said to use a similar type of weapon
@@jyralnadreth4442 turbo lasers use a laser to cause the plasma bolt to rotate at a high speed, but they are still plasma weapons
@@leeleavelle716wow I didn't know that. What A-Canon that Disney didn't remove states that information? I don't recall in any of the movies.
You need to put that up against the G with her fast regenerating shields ...
I'm not surprised 1 turbo laser shot is measured around the gigaton range and while not as accurate as a phaser shot there are multiple hits landing from the multiple turbolaser batteries on the star Destroyer.
_"1 turbo laser shot is measured around the gigaton range"_
1 Turbo laser can't even destroy a city on it's own. 1 Phaser *_can level a continent._*
That's absurd... respectfully. A gigaton is more than any nuclear blast so far!
Source for Gigaton? Cause Disney removed a lot of material from canon.
I wonder if there's a comparable mod with the Super Star Destoyer, the Executor (Vader's Flag ship). I'd be keen to see how that - and it's death squadron- goes against the collective.
Need to try Janeways Tricobolt device....
I have no idea how I found this channel, but now youtube is recommending it endlessly. I can stop anytime I want to, I swear.
Attack from farther away
I think you're right, the Defiant would have the maneuverability to evade those turbolasers. But I was right, I thought turbolasers would be enough to collapse Federation shields.
I know the best locations to attack a star destroyer, but you'd have to use manual targeting.
First, take out the large spheres near the bridge...those are reinforced shield generators...then target their bridge directly...the torpedoes should get through. (Yes, I've watched too much sci-fi) 😆
Do Klingon academy ship battles, please!
🤣 That's such accurate power scaling, I'm ROTFL.
Definitely overpowered.
Realistically any Star Wars ship wouldn't even be able to penetrate the shields of even the weakest Star Trek ship. Laser weapons are considered comedically antiquated by Star Trek standards. Concussion missiles? Really? Meanwhile phasers and photon torpedoes would literally vaporize whole chunks of a Star Destroyer. The only advantage a Star Destroyer might have is size. It's big enough to ram ships effectively. However, Star Trek ships aren't just metal. They are actively reinforced with structural integrity fields and shields. It would be far worse than ramming an asteroid. Anyway, still cool to see them in the game. It's just not an accurate representation of any of the actual technical differences between the two universes.
What was that ship called?
The Imperial Starfleet Destroyer?
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A turbo laser has an effective range of 1200km federation phasers have a range of 300000km so does not matter how powerful starwars weapons are the star destroyer would be obliterated before it got into range of the federation ships.
There are many factors your not taking to account Philip when it comes to a tech battle between Star Wars and Star Trek.
Phasers may have range. But they require an amount of time on a target to be effective, Also has we have seen in everything from original series, Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, Discovery, and all of the Trek films, despite that range the battles take place relatively in close quarters.
Another factor to consider is the fact that ships like Victory class are designed to take a pounding in combat from the very weapons it wields.
They're also the countermeasures used by Star Destroyers to foil long range weaponry which is why they rely a lot on fighters for both extended firepower and distractions.
As a fan of Star Wars Star Trek and many other franchises I enjoy seeing cross over comparative battles to see the pluses and minuses in each technology. What is really annoying is the fact that because of Star Trek the Next Generation the kids who grow up watching that show are the adults who believe that Star Trek is the top of the Sci-Fi food chain for everything when in fact it's not.
@@ldarksong
Nothing you said is true. Phasers in the original Star Trek, The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise, and even Discovery are typically seen destroying targets in the instant the phaser makes contact, and there are NO countermeasures to long-range weapons seen on Star Destroyers at all.
@@Idazmi7
Everything I said is true.
Looking at every battle ever filmed in the Star Trek franchise you'll have some targets being taken out with one shot, yes. They're also targets that have taken multiple phaser hits from multiple ships and are still standing. You can reference the Dominion war from Star Trek Deep Space Nine for example of that if need be.
The electronic countermeasures I mentioned in regards to Star Wars tech is within the Star wars Expanded Universe novels, The Star wars novel Outbound Flight comes to mind from the top of my head as a good example. Not to forget the final battle scene in Return of the Jedi.
Roughly speaking it has been a part of their technology and strategic warfare for about 40,000 years based on their lore. Hence the need for the viewports with enhanced tactical capabilities and the fighters.
Additionally it is true that due to the firepower being thrown left and right Star Wars type vessels, especially The Imperials, are designed with armor and shields with the full intent to take the kind of pounding that is superior to even heavy phasers.
Remember phasers are a combination of particle beam and laser while in comparison the lasers especially turbolasers in Star Wars are a combination of laser and plasma. The former does a type of kinetic damage while the latter is pretty much being hit by a little piece of the sun.
Star Wars type vessels can take that hit far better than a Star Trek vessel. And the creators of the mod for Star Wars forgot a very important weapon in that arsenal. Ion beams, which ions are the complete bane for Star Trek vessels.
Back to the long range countermeasures. Technically the torpedoes are the weapon of choice in Star Trek while the lasers are the weapon of choice for Star Wars due to the ability to jam long-range guidance systems that while they do not completely foil targeting systems of weapons such as missiles and torpedoes they do make it difficult for a positive lock on to score direct hit. Kind of like fighting in a nebula which disrupts phasor locks as demonstrated in Star Trek 2 The wrath of Khan.
Anyway if you want to have a bias in favor of Star Trek that's up to you. But have a look around before you do so. There are certain things you are missing when it comes to a comparison.
@@ldarksong
_"Everything I said is true."_
If it was, I wouldn't be so quick and casual to contradict you.
_"(...) You can reference the Dominion war from Star Trek Deep Space Nine for example of that if need be."_
Nothing you said is true of the Dominion War, either. Basically, you're ignoring every scene where torpedoes are actually fired, ignoring the existence of armor (ablative or otherwise) and asserting weaknesses that do not exist. And if you think I'd bother bluffing, almost the entire Dominion War can be seen here on UA-cam - including the part where a small fleet destroyed 30% of a planet with standard weapons in mere seconds.
As for your Star Wars drivel, I don't even think *you* believe any of that nonsense: Rogue One is a clear demonstration of Star Wars' limits, and the Death Star itself - on a single reactor ignition - barely equals casual fire from a Romulan Warbird.
Very OP....SW tech whilst decently advanced is IMHO more along what the Federation used in the 23rd century with the exception of Hyperdrives, Hypercomms and Android tech
Not even: 23rd century Starfleet hand-phasers can utterly vaporize a person, and starship weapons could destroy entire planet surfaces in very short timespans.
there is no way that this would happen the E and or the D would stomp the shit out of a star destroyer.
I wonder if the Federation Odyssey-class Star Cruiser will stand against Star Wars Capital Ships such as the Imperial Star Destroyer?
Love you work !
So the Star Wars ships were clearly made by a Star Wars fan.
If you go on basic premise that has been lined out in lore and canon 2x Galaxy class equals 1x ISD However that is when you ignore one factor..... Orientation
The isd has a lot of blind sides
And defensive vulnerabilities.... Both of which were not accounted for in this video
Yes I would say your victory ISD Is overpowered
Because a galaxy class and AN ISD Should be on equal footing to each other. When all strengths and weaknesses are accounted for.
Also ISD has shields
That is the victory class star destroyer this class is the small version.
I would love to see an imperial class vs A borg cube ?
I'd love to see battlestar galactica battle the star destroyer, if there is a mod
Three-way: BSG, B5, and Star Wars.
Star Wars vs Star Trek video set would be awesome. The Executor Vs All the Enterprise.
This is reminding me of the fangame Babylon 5 Wars. Star Wars ships were underpointed/overpowered in that game, too.
To be entirely honest, that is a Victory I-class Star Destroyer going by the engine configuration, its most dangerous aspect would be capable of firing its missiles from 80 launchers that are spread across the hull. Those should be doing the real damage, as for it being able to take out so many ships so quickly, its both expected and unexpected. The person probably used legends information for the ship which is why the Federation ships are going down so fast but I do expect the Victory to have taken rather significant damage from the first three vessels. Also given the fact that the turbolasers were seeming to be hitting the deflector disk rather than other parts of the ship, makes sense why they were being destroyed so easily, that is a rather known weakness for star trek ships and warp cores tend to be rather... how to say, temperamental when being attacked. So when coming down to it, I'm surprised there weren't warp core breaches lol XD
All joking aside, as a fan of both Star Wars and Star Trek. This is how I see it, they can both take each other out but the methods of doing so are different. Star Trek are speed cannons that makes up for limited amount of weaponry on their ships by giving them far more power. Star Wars are the slower artillery to make up for their limited speed, their ships are far more heavily armored and have far more weaponry to output more damage against opponents. Regardless of those who want to cite technical manuals, tv show information, Disney canon, original EU, or some other third source, it doesn't matter. This contest to see who is better and who isn't is nonsense, they are shows both designed for different situations, different types of storytelling. One merely uses technology as a plot device and a solution to all things, the other uses mysticism and older feeling technology to advance their stories; they are both the best because of the love and time put into them by both the fans and the writers.
I wander how the galactic empire would hold up to the goa'uld?
i love SW vs Trek Crossover stuff and i can tell you aside from Hyperdrive which is much better then warp, everything in Trek Beats its equivalent in SW everytime. even warp give you a lot more tactical pliexibily then Hyperdrive as it can be used in system and ships in HD cannot fire at anything.
mod guy was a star wars not a star trek guy 😮💨, if this was war robots I would sense a nerf coming 😆!
This mod seems to have been balanced by a Star Wars fan!
Image going up against the Death Star😂😂😂😂
I want to see Starfleet against 40k ships
That looks like a Victory Class SD, not an Imperial Class SD
it should have a shit ton of missile launcher as well because the VSD 1 had 80 tubes.
I would love to see the Scimitar or the Narada go up against the Star Destroyer. But the destroyer is a dedicated warship. Idk what would be a good match for it.
That's a VSD 1 not an ISD, a relic of the Clone Wars.
Watching a ship like the excalibur be destroyed stabs me deep, as if it was with the sword of King Arthur himself. 😿🗡️
Yes definitely a fleet of defiants!!! Putting Janeway out her misery made me snicker lol
Looks like the SD got the Millennium Falcon upgrade. :P
It is an imperial ship but that's not the correct title. You using a
"Victory-class Star Destroyer" you can tell by the flaps at the bottom side which house torpedoes.
technically its Cncusssion Missiles and it has 80 tubes.
@@JeanLucCaptain Understood.
I disagree with anyone who says a Star Destoryer is more powerful than a Star fleet ship. Just look at how an asteroid took out an Imperial Class Star Destoryer.
The one in this video is a victory class star Destroyer which is not in the movies.
RAMMING SPEED
This mod was clearly made by a star wars fan boy...
Like lasers would ever do anything to Star Trek shields...
SW lasers arn;t. they work like plasma weapons even in universe.
Maybe the G could do it.
Attack the Destroyer from behind.......
Imperial heavy CRUISER
And now the federation has three ships left the Galaxy X the Armored Voyager and Enterprise g. (Hint hint next video)
Looks like the AI is trying to fight at to close a distance. If turf fleet fought at long rang different story
It’s way overpowered
Some Starwars fanboys made the Imperial Star Destroyer too powerful. It wouldn't stand a chance against one Star Trek ship, let alone against a fleet. I think the myth of star wars ships being better and faster started in episode four when the Millenium Falcon made it from Tatooine to where Alderan should have been in minutes. What fans don't realize is that it wasn't a scene but rather a sequence, and the actual time for that ship to make it may have been weeks rather than mere minutes. Also, some materials state that the armor for Star Destroyers is neutronium, which is silly. If it were, people would assume the ship was impervious to damage, but that would have been its weak point.
Well federation ships are still designed for science half. The star destroyer is a pure warship designed by an all aggressive empire. I think that’s why
The true reason is that the modder wants star wars ships to be OP, nothing more nothing less...
This is idiotic. The ranges alone are completely wrong. SW weapons have at least ten times lower range than ST weapons.
Lazers wouldn't even graze the shields of a Starfleet vessel.
Can't you just beam the unshielded Star Destroyers crew into space?
Or beam two whales onto their bridge.
@@aquariandawn4750 Don’t forget the water as well….
Or just beam a torpedo into their reactor core. There's no way that the Star Wars vessels would win this fight.
@@compmanio36 screw you guys. My whale beam attack is the superior,and memorable, attack.
Riker: "They're coming at us with lasers?! They won't even penetrate our navigational deflectors."
Hate to break to Star Wars fans. Just to be fair I am a fan of both Star Trek, not discovery or Picard, and a fan of Star Wars legends. However according to several tech books from both, Star Trek shields especially tng era would not even get scratched by the Star destroyer weapons. Also the phasers would and photons would absolutely demolish 90% of ships in the Star Wars universe. In addition I would like to point out that a Galaxy class would most likely take out any fleet the empire could throw at it from the 0bby to 4aby.
Yeah I doubt a star destroyers guns are that accurate lmao
In my opinion that was horse $#!%. A star destroyer would not have taken out 1 starship so easily let alone 3. And it would have taken only a couple of quantum torpedoes to take it out. And yes I'm a trekie. 😝
Mod packs should have like three different power levels. Not everyone wants a god ship.
You can tell this mod was made by a Star Wars fanboy.
One quantum torpedo would end it if this was actual.
"Hahaha!!! Since a Battlegroup of your finest Starships didn't stand a chance against the power of ONE of my old Victorys. Your Federation won't last against the FULL MIGHT of the Cosmic Imperium and my newest, and better, classes in the Imperial Navy, especially against our Victory III's! Prepare to meet. Your. Doom...!"
This video is so bias towards Star Wars ships federation ships are more maneuverable they have better sensors long range weapons Shields
i see it as a 2 prong problem.
star destroyers are just bigger and can damage soak like a borg cube
2.) they can pump out more firepower than anything a starfleet ship is designed to withstand.
think of it like this if you think a defiant class pulse phasers are devastating, SD plasma cannons are like this but a SD has them in huge numbers for area denial and saturation braodsides.
i'd never think a excalibur class would go down like a paper swan
Technically he's using a victory class star Destroyer which is not the one in the movies.
Star Trek weapons have far greater range than Star wars weapons do. The federation ship should have been able to stand off and obliterate the Star destroyer before the other ship ever got in range.
@@DanBen07 still SW ships are pretty heavily armed in certain areas. of course if you get behind them they're toast. but that's whre the tie fighters come in
@@danieldunlap4077 that's if this emulator was actually show accurate lol. Star trek weapons can hit in the six figure km range. and star trek sublight speeds are far superior to SW sublight speeds.
The two points you raised are highly contentious, as depending in the sources you look at it could go from a Federation ship one-shotting a star destroyer to vice-versa
Target it's reactor. Concentrated quantum torpedo attacks will always do the job
"Sir, they are now firing LASERS at us!!!!"
"Lasers can't even penetrate our navigation shields don't they know that? Mr Worf, drop shields, then beam a photon torpedo into one of its engines and detonate at your leisure."
I didn’t think Star Wars ships had any shields.
Lots of Star Wars ships do have Shields.
@@DanBen07 oh! I didn’t realize that. I wasn’t as big into Star Wars as I was Star Trek. Haha!
Just a third through, and I see the Imperial ship's guns are dramatically overpowered. The N-X1 ENTERPRISE, upgraded it's guns, making a single pulse..accidentally..able to vaporize a mountain cluster. 200 hundred years later, that should 10 to 12 times bigger results..at minimum, in my opinion. STAR WARS guns, aside from moon sized planet killer guns, the latest Disney version of SUPERSTARDISTROIERS..never remotely had the pepper to equal that..typically.
Considering what I just said, I ask, what kind of STARDISTROYER is that? Thanks to the last movie, a new kind of STARDISTROYER, has a planet killer gun, each one. They also have stronger smaller guns. Apparently their shields are dumpster dumplings though. Mind you, except for the command towers.?.they may have rather sturdy armor.
No way in hell..... even a borg cube can't destroy starships that fast.
Definitely byass there.
That star destroyer is way over powered. Their shields were a joke. And their weapons are so weak compared to a phaser as their weapons are straight laser tech & star trek is particle based