The funny thing is that I have no use for a toy hauler, but I like these better than a lot of normal trailers. Something about a very open space and having that deck option is really appealing to me.
Reason why I would not give Grand design and number one spot is. You spend all that money and you only get 30 amp service and one AC unit. I checked and looked all their g series toy haulers all are 30 amp. For the price point it should be 50 amp with two AC. What do you think
I’ve owned 3 of your top 5 TH.. after all said and done. I now have a 2022 heartland fuel 287.. huge garage (16.6ft) azdel construction, aluminum structure walls and ceiling. 1 mega slide.. biggest camp window Ive ever seen. Solid wood cabinetry that are pocket screwed. Been full timing in this unit since Aug of 2022 (over 12,000 miles traveled) with no issues. Does have 2 flaws .. needs a 2nd a/c being 37 ft long. And wish it had 3 season patio doors.. but still love this TH …. Patio is a must if your buying one. We use ours everyday. Grand designs does make a great th. I just like the heartland fuels layout better.
I don't think he even knows they exist... Never seen them review any Outdoors RV units... They're well built and make great toy haulers... Better then most on this list...
These were all nice travel trailers you haulers. I liked the one make like Air streams are. I’m glad this’d made the top 5. Thank you Matt for shoring these Rvs.
Nailed it! That ATC and GD… tops, well with 1 exception; 25G is my personal favorite. Some of the more budget friendly micro toy haulers with honorable mention may be Geo-Pro FB19TH, and that awesome Xplore 22XR!! Strong work gents.
So we are considering a 25g.. My question and it could be a dumb question..also I think I am not researching correctly but is the momentum g series the only brand that has the Available 3 season doors. Also are they lockable...as in if you were to leave your camper for awhile would you be able to securely lock up the trailer while still having the back deck down or would you put it up. The 3 season doors is what is making the decision for us.
The Grand Design is really nice. Maybe they could have placed the TV in the corner across from the couch? If it was placed high enough it shouldn't get in the way. Then where the TV is placed now they could make a storage cabinet. If possible.
We roam all over the earth We don’t look at the weather Where we have to spend the night What we have to eat... We are on the road day after day And the van is in a clean field This is our usual home...
My neighbor has an ATC and he complains that it struggles to stay warm on colder nights and to stay cool on hot days. Does ATC skimp on the insulation?
ATC is the way to go. You could by the 28 front bedroom 2 years ago for 70k now they want close to 100k. The floors from the bathroom forward are now a composite. ATC needs to step up there quality control and go back to all aluminum.
Yes! We have the 2019 28 foot and love it. Our floor is all aluminum. I would like some of the features on the new ones like movable furniture, but I don't think I could afford the new ones.
ATC should have definitely been your #1. The Forest River product should have never made the list because there are so many better options. Heartland Torque, Cruiser Stryker and Keystone Carbon are on another level.
I agree about ATC. We've had ours for 4 years and it's solid. We lived in it for the first 3 years. No rot or rust and it's lightweight for a toy hauler. The one they featured here is a 29' and has a larger garage. Ours is a 28' with a slightly smaller garage area, but we have a walk-around bed, not the one shoved in a corner.
Exactly the gran designs are so overrated. That’s why they are just like the rest and failing apart once you leave the dealer. The roof is your biggest issue on a rv. Atc has it down and will eventually get my money
hello good day, I want to visit my country by buying a rivian r1t with my wife and living in a full-time caravan, I thought it would be more logical to choose a toy hauler type caravan since we will take our motorcycles with us, can you help me on what to do and what to choose (because my english is bad I used a translator, sorry for mistakes)
For me, ATC, Outdoors RV, Desert Fox would be top tier, but then I specifically like to boondock off the beaten path. Grand Design has some nice features, but unfortunately I think they no longer offer propane fridge. K-Z has also always been quality.
I like the GD, but for me the 28g, or 30g are better layouts. The garage space in the 29 is too small. The ATC is just too expensive. Another I’d consider for your countdown is the Outdoors RV TRX series.
We've had an ATC for about 4 years and lived in it for the first 3 years. It's amazing and extremely tough. I wouldn't say it's like an Airstream because they have wood inside. This has no wood. It's all aluminum structure, cabinets, and floors. The walls are Azdel. There is nothing that can rot or rust.
As others have said, ATC should be the #1 on your list. Momentum should be #2 and all forest rivers should be recycled and used on a quality trailer. ATC is a great concept company but their trialers are very cold feeling and looking on the inside. Like literally cold because of the materials used. Will they hold up until your grand kids have grand kids? Probably. As for the Momentum, they are behind the game as for what people use these things for. Let's face it, most people that buy these toy haulers are using them for their SxS or sand car and they're dry camping. Payload ratings are crucial along with fresh water capacity. ATC is, again, the top of this list where Momentum hangs out with Forest River in that category. I've seen way too many of these brands at the desert that have so many problems or fall way short compared to others. The two top dogs I see at the desert are Eclipse and Genesis. That's why I went Eclipse Attitude for my second toy hauler. My first was a Fleetwood Gearbox but they went out of business. Fleetwood probably had the best toy haulers for that time. Built like a tank. I only sold it because I needed something bigger for my growing family. My Attitude is also a tank. 3 years and very minimal issues. Mostly due to supplier faults. It has the most payload and fresh water compared to others its size. I shopped around for months and this was the only manufacturer that came out way above the rest. My local dealership has dropped all Forest River products and went Momentum. They couldn't give their Forest River inventory away lol. Of course, if the average person isn't pushing these things to their limits like at the deserts here in SoCal, Forest River will probably be ok at your local KOA lol.
Honestly I think you guys messed this whole category up with the exception of the ATC, and a budget option maybe. I can name them at the moment, but I KNOW I've watched some unbelievable 5th wheel toy haulers that are absolutely gorgeous, and yes, not cheap, but when you are saying "the best of" I think you need to really do some homework on what's really out there.
This is a travel trailer toy hauler category, not 5th wheel... But I will agree they messed this up just like most of the top 5 this year... ATC and GD yes, but the rest are not best of...
@@lifeaftereverything4986 Yes, I tend to lump the 5th wheels in as travel trailers too, and not make that distinction, but technically you're right, but I'm betting there's still better stuff out there not 5th wheel oriented.
@@6thwatergateplumber I totally agree... There are definitely better travel trailer toy haulers out there... Not sure how they keep coming up with these lists but none of them have made sense (especially this year). I chalk it up to lack of knowledge outside of the handful of brands they sell. It also seems that they are not open to researching or learning about the particular things that make a high quality RV...
I'll watch your video...but I currently own a Jayco 236th.Cant haul my Honda 700. Mainstream manufactures wanna CLUTTER UP garages with kitchens,cabinets,etc.I found one by Intech...Discover that has room with two flip out beds,but a nice sink but no bath at all.A little wet bath would have helped so I'm looking NOW for a shorter lighter,less cluttered side by side hauler....
Review these same toy haulers in 10 years. Only one of these will with stand the test of time, the ATC. You didn’t even mention the ATC can haul almost 6k of cargo.
It seems majority of videos featuring coachmen Rv doesn't allow comments, I am searching whether they are good rvs and it seems they aren't great as there are a lot of unhappy customers complaining about things breaking down as soon as they buy it. Thats too bad as they would be great TT.
I disagree with both of your 5 best toy hauler videos I don't even see how you could not even mention 2017 XLR Nitro29kw side deck What's wrong with you guys you're not doing your homework or what How could you skip that It has most Counter space island with a 14' Garage A kitchen with everything you need In a slide out That does not need to be out With a spacey bathroom And a specey bedroom In which I have a really good idea for that bedroom Make the bed East West Bed And make a residential Clothes closet Where the head of the bed was And a dresser residential entertainment center Is at the foot of the bed Against the wall And in the counter space Of the island in the kitchen On the back side facing the garage Washer dryer combo And beside that Is more droors for clothes So if the company that makes Is that particular camper Does all of that With what they have going on now There is no way Any camper could compete With all that That would be the number one And you would hold number one for a long time Please let XLR Nitro read See my idea i guarantee It would be a camper that I would definitely get with a doubt
I’m sorry...Heartland makes much better toyhaulers than Forrest River. I’ve owned an XLR and looked at a couple of the ones you showcased. Hopefully next year y’all really look at the finish/features of more brands.
It feels like they only seem to focus on how it looks and if it's"nice" more than how it's built... Probably because they don't really know very much about what makes an RV well built (except that Azdel is a green based material 🤔🤣)... They need to actually put some effort into learning the mechanics that make a great RV
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The funny thing is that I have no use for a toy hauler, but I like these better than a lot of normal trailers. Something about a very open space and having that deck option is really appealing to me.
Toy hauler's review must to mention the dimensions of the garage so users would know if an SxS can fit or not.
Yes I agree! I have a yamaha rmax so I need a 7 ft vertical opening to fit inside.
Reason why I would not give Grand design and number one spot is. You spend all that money and you only get 30 amp service and one AC unit. I checked and looked all their g series toy haulers all are 30 amp. For the price point it should be 50 amp with two AC. What do you think
I have the Grand Design GClass G25. It is 30 Amp and has 2 A/C units. They are specially designed to work with 30 amp. Get it right.
I have the 29g with two AC and run both AC with no problem
GRAND DESIGN MOMENTUM GRAND DESIGN CONGRATULATIONS
Great choices. The screen door on the patio is the kicker
Those are all great towables .. I kinda like them for the patio..
I love my Grand Design Momentum 21G, it is a 29G in a smaller, half-ton towable footprint.
Fuel 305 by heartland is my favorite. 16 foot garage is awesome
I have a 2022 fuel 287… 37ft of MERICA and cold beer.. freaking love it…. Harley’s go everywhere with us..
Heartland torque 322
Love your videos. I think the Torque T322 and Stryker STG3313 should be considered for the list. Can’t wait for the next video!
Wow! The ATC Gamechanger is incredible!!
I’ve owned 3 of your top 5 TH.. after all said and done. I now have a 2022 heartland fuel 287.. huge garage (16.6ft) azdel construction, aluminum structure walls and ceiling. 1 mega slide.. biggest camp window Ive ever seen. Solid wood cabinetry that are pocket screwed. Been full timing in this unit since Aug of 2022 (over 12,000 miles traveled) with no issues. Does have 2 flaws .. needs a 2nd a/c being 37 ft long. And wish it had 3 season patio doors.. but still love this TH …. Patio is a must if your buying one. We use ours everyday.
Grand designs does make a great th. I just like the heartland fuels layout better.
You need to check out the outdoors rv trail series toy haulers
I don't think he even knows they exist... Never seen them review any Outdoors RV units... They're well built and make great toy haulers... Better then most on this list...
Which one of these is best insulated for winter use?
For me, I’d say Desert Fox, or if you want more off pavement boondocking oriented, look at Outdoors RV
Another great video. I will eventually get one of these for a future company for location assignments
Great job 👏
These were all nice travel trailers you haulers. I liked the one make like Air streams are. I’m glad this’d made the top 5. Thank you Matt for shoring these Rvs.
I think it was a pretty good
YAY! Grand Design wins every time! Nobody can beat Grand Design!
Lol
Fuel by Heartland and Out Door Rv Mnt TRX are by far the best on the market in my opinion.
Nailed it! That ATC and GD… tops, well with 1 exception; 25G is my personal favorite.
Some of the more budget friendly micro toy haulers with honorable mention may be Geo-Pro FB19TH, and that awesome Xplore 22XR!!
Strong work gents.
I have the G25. It’s a great RV! 👍
So we are considering a 25g..
My question and it could be a dumb question..also I think I am not researching correctly but is the momentum g series the only brand that has the Available 3 season doors.
Also are they lockable...as in if you were to leave your camper for awhile would you be able to securely lock up the trailer while still having the back deck down or would you put it up.
The 3 season doors is what is making the decision for us.
It's been another couple of years that video of the top five I still say XLR nitro with the side deck and rear deck and 14 ft garage
Need to check out outdoorrvmfg 29trx model or 27trx.
The Grand Design is really nice. Maybe they could have placed the TV in the corner across from the couch? If it was placed high enough it shouldn't get in the way. Then where the TV is placed now they could make a storage cabinet. If possible.
Should add Outdoor Rv 29TRX TT TH
I agree with your #1 pick! However, the bed cannot be used with the slide in? Deal breaker for some!
We roam all over the earth We don’t look at the weather Where we have to spend the night What we have to eat... We are on the road day after day And the van is in a clean field This is our usual home...
My neighbor has an ATC and he complains that it struggles to stay warm on colder nights and to stay cool on hot days. Does ATC skimp on the insulation?
ATC is the way to go. You could by the 28 front bedroom 2 years ago for 70k now they want close to 100k. The floors from the bathroom forward are now a composite. ATC needs to step up there quality control and go back to all aluminum.
Yes! We have the 2019 28 foot and love it. Our floor is all aluminum. I would like some of the features on the new ones like movable furniture, but I don't think I could afford the new ones.
100k lmao!
I'd love more Class A or C toy haulers
What’s your thoughts on the rogue 32V
How about the wolfpack 23pack15
What series is the momentum?
ATC should have definitely been your #1. The Forest River product should have never made the list because there are so many better options. Heartland Torque, Cruiser Stryker and Keystone Carbon are on another level.
I agree about ATC. We've had ours for 4 years and it's solid. We lived in it for the first 3 years. No rot or rust and it's lightweight for a toy hauler. The one they featured here is a 29' and has a larger garage. Ours is a 28' with a slightly smaller garage area, but we have a walk-around bed, not the one shoved in a corner.
Exactly the gran designs are so overrated. That’s why they are just like the rest and failing apart once you leave the dealer. The roof is your biggest issue on a rv. Atc has it down and will eventually get my money
hello good day, I want to visit my country by buying a rivian r1t with my wife and living in a full-time caravan, I thought it would be more logical to choose a toy hauler type caravan since we will take our motorcycles with us, can you help me on what to do and what to choose (because my english is bad I used a translator, sorry for mistakes)
Prices?
For me, ATC, Outdoors RV, Desert Fox would be top tier, but then I specifically like to boondock off the beaten path. Grand Design has some nice features, but unfortunately I think they no longer offer propane fridge. K-Z has also always been quality.
I prefer the Forest River Salem FSX 280RTX. They separate garage from the living area.
Looks pretty obvious you didn’t check out XLR or KZ toyhaulers.
It's pretty obvious they didn't really check much with all these top 5 lists... XLR and KZ make great toy haulers...
How is that obvious? No one knows that
I’ve been watching van videos. Now I’m thinking toy hauler because of my daughter’s wheelchair
You left out the KZ MTX series toyhaulers.
Why???
I like the GD, but for me the 28g, or 30g are better layouts. The garage space in the 29 is too small.
The ATC is just too expensive.
Another I’d consider for your countdown is the Outdoors RV TRX series.
Have a look at Eclipse rv never seen you reveiw it , they only make toy hauler and on of the best build quality from what I know, 32 gsg 35gsg
ATC will be the only one to fit a 4 seater sxs. Also KV Sportster 301THR will fit a Polaris Pro R @ 74" wide.
When you factor in price I think that number 5 is the best
They all were great 👍 but too big for me- The third selection that was like an airstream was my favorite! Thank you Matt and Will for this video!
We've had an ATC for about 4 years and lived in it for the first 3 years. It's amazing and extremely tough. I wouldn't say it's like an Airstream because they have wood inside. This has no wood. It's all aluminum structure, cabinets, and floors. The walls are Azdel. There is nothing that can rot or rust.
When a work and play pulls the #2 spot, that means theyre all junk. And when #1 has a slide on the "living" side, you can keep that one too!
So sad that all these TT Toy haulers have big garages but they only go full width about 10' up (the last 6-8' is too narrow for today's sxs)
As others have said, ATC should be the #1 on your list. Momentum should be #2 and all forest rivers should be recycled and used on a quality trailer. ATC is a great concept company but their trialers are very cold feeling and looking on the inside. Like literally cold because of the materials used. Will they hold up until your grand kids have grand kids? Probably. As for the Momentum, they are behind the game as for what people use these things for. Let's face it, most people that buy these toy haulers are using them for their SxS or sand car and they're dry camping. Payload ratings are crucial along with fresh water capacity. ATC is, again, the top of this list where Momentum hangs out with Forest River in that category. I've seen way too many of these brands at the desert that have so many problems or fall way short compared to others. The two top dogs I see at the desert are Eclipse and Genesis. That's why I went Eclipse Attitude for my second toy hauler. My first was a Fleetwood Gearbox but they went out of business. Fleetwood probably had the best toy haulers for that time. Built like a tank. I only sold it because I needed something bigger for my growing family. My Attitude is also a tank. 3 years and very minimal issues. Mostly due to supplier faults. It has the most payload and fresh water compared to others its size. I shopped around for months and this was the only manufacturer that came out way above the rest. My local dealership has dropped all Forest River products and went Momentum. They couldn't give their Forest River inventory away lol. Of course, if the average person isn't pushing these things to their limits like at the deserts here in SoCal, Forest River will probably be ok at your local KOA lol.
Maybe I missed it but I would have liked an actual price breakdown
Honestly I think you guys messed this whole category up with the exception of the ATC, and a budget option maybe. I can name them at the moment, but I KNOW I've watched some unbelievable 5th wheel toy haulers that are absolutely gorgeous, and yes, not cheap, but when you are saying "the best of" I think you need to really do some homework on what's really out there.
This is a travel trailer toy hauler category, not 5th wheel... But I will agree they messed this up just like most of the top 5 this year... ATC and GD yes, but the rest are not best of...
@@lifeaftereverything4986 Yes, I tend to lump the 5th wheels in as travel trailers too, and not make that distinction, but technically you're right, but I'm betting there's still better stuff out there not 5th wheel oriented.
@@6thwatergateplumber I totally agree... There are definitely better travel trailer toy haulers out there... Not sure how they keep coming up with these lists but none of them have made sense (especially this year). I chalk it up to lack of knowledge outside of the handful of brands they sell. It also seems that they are not open to researching or learning about the particular things that make a high quality RV...
I'll watch your video...but I currently own a Jayco 236th.Cant haul my Honda 700. Mainstream manufactures wanna CLUTTER UP garages with kitchens,cabinets,etc.I found one by Intech...Discover that has room with two flip out beds,but a nice sink but no bath at all.A little wet bath would have helped so I'm looking NOW for a shorter lighter,less cluttered side by side hauler....
I have a 29g, not super happy with it. Can't haul my sxs and water without being over axel capacity
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Review these same toy haulers in 10 years. Only one of these will with stand the test of time, the ATC. You didn’t even mention the ATC can haul almost 6k of cargo.
They are all so far up grand designs ass
It seems majority of videos featuring coachmen Rv doesn't allow comments, I am searching whether they are good rvs and it seems they aren't great as there are a lot of unhappy customers complaining about things breaking down as soon as they buy it. Thats too bad as they would be great TT.
Dude.
You have one toy
hauler in stock.
Its huge.
I need compact.
How disappointing.
These all conventional choices. I like TLRV 24 SUR because it’s a ton lighter than the big 5.
Yes I'm 1st!!!
agree with last comment...way too big. How about doing a review for all the small ones out there for small toys and small tow truck.
Its hard to watch your video without mentioning prices on all these toy haulers
I disagree with both of your 5 best toy hauler videos I don't even see how you could not even mention 2017 XLR Nitro29kw side deck What's wrong with you guys you're not doing your homework or what How could you skip that It has most Counter space island with a 14' Garage A kitchen with everything you need In a slide out That does not need to be out With a spacey bathroom And a specey bedroom In which I have a really good idea for that bedroom Make the bed East West Bed And make a residential Clothes closet Where the head of the bed was And a dresser residential entertainment center Is at the foot of the bed Against the wall And in the counter space Of the island in the kitchen On the back side facing the garage Washer dryer combo And beside that Is more droors for clothes So if the company that makes Is that particular camper Does all of that With what they have going on now There is no way Any camper could compete With all that That would be the number one And you would hold number one for a long time Please let XLR Nitro read See my idea i guarantee It would be a camper that I would definitely get with a doubt
^please read asap^-!
lol people wanna know garage size, especially the width w the cabinet….🤷♂️
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I’m sorry...Heartland makes much better toyhaulers than Forrest River. I’ve owned an XLR and looked at a couple of the ones you showcased. Hopefully next year y’all really look at the finish/features of more brands.
It feels like they only seem to focus on how it looks and if it's"nice" more than how it's built... Probably because they don't really know very much about what makes an RV well built (except that Azdel is a green based material 🤔🤣)... They need to actually put some effort into learning the mechanics that make a great RV
Dude stop yelling! And never say “super excited “ again!
Just to help people out, I went ahead and marked your sponsored segment so that people with the SponsorBlock addon have the option to auto-skip them. An RV sales company, trying to advertise even more? GTFO.
No, do not agree.