Best Travel Trailer? Lance 1985
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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Lance RV has been making quality campers and travel trailers for decades. This was our first opportunity to tour a Lance travel trailer and it did not disappoint. This is the Lance 1985 and it may be the nicest and most well-made travel trailer we have ever toured.
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I really like this camper, what I am looking for retirement!
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I love the tiny TV 16ft away from the couch 😊
Yeah not a rig for watching tv. Thanks for watching.
Its awesome, you thought of everything. Absolutely perfect.
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Nice! Thanks and God bless.👍
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I have a Lance 1995 which is very similar to this one. The small black locked undercarriage compartment is for your 25 foot main power cord and whatever other adapters you care to carry ...🙂
I kinda figured that is what it is for. So well designed. Have you been happy with yours.
@@JauntJunkies Yes, very much so. Mine is a 2021 and they have made significant improvements in the 2022 model year (The door and screen door, ALL windows are the euro large opening windows, the Road armor suspension and the new stabilization jacks to name a few). Mine are all good and working well, but they have upped the game with the 2022 models...only "complaint" in the 2022's is the use of the small 4 inch generic exhaust fans (I think there are 2 of them - they are pretty useless and I took the one out of mine and swapped in a MaxxFan). They should not require their owners to breach the ceiling seals just to get a decent fan in there. While I like the included Fantastic Fan, I now have both the Fantastic and the MaxxFan, which is better IMO...
I love this trailer. It would be so nice. Thanks for showing this!!
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Wow!
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Awesome.
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Best line in this great review: "Most RV ladders are shit"! So true! Love this review, though some of the comments make me weary! Thanks for another lovely video, from Blowing Rock, Blue Ridge Mountains, North Carolina!
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Very nice thank you
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Great review! Thanks for showing us this trailer. I love it!
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Have been trailing since I was 12 yrs old since Dad was a huge outdoorsy US marine. Lance is impressive my 1685 21 ft is my heart. The finishing touches are exquisite and feels like home. I did order it in 2016 with some factory custom features which is always possible! Go to Montana twice a year and I’m still loving my Lance over any other but that’s my opinion. 👌🌺💕
Love hearing from an owner with personal experience. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay safe in your travels.
Thank you both for this great & detailed tour of the Lance Travel Trailer.
You two are awesome !
I subscribed from DC !
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Lance makes such great products and optimizes smaller spaces with high end design
I think the same. Thanks for watching.
I would like something like this without the slide and dinette, and use the bedroom/lounge for dining with a separate table. I think I'd also prefer a shower curtain instead of the door. The rest of the trailer is awesome! The storage is amazing!Thanks for the tour! 💕
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We ordered and bought a 2022 Lance 1172 truck camper picked it up last November. Absolutely love it. Some people don’t like these new type windows. But they are superior. They open wide and importantly keep the rain out so you can have ventilation even in the rain. Our older camper we had to close the windows when it rained
I have heard these European style windows are loved by people. Glad to hear you like your Lance camper.
Nice little unit.
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Definetly a great coach.
Love the trays in the cargo and batteries area. Also the covered three 20# propane tanks. These are easy to exchange everywhere vs the 2-30# tanks. Tons of storage too.
For my family situation, I believe the 20 or 2185 is the one that fits the mold. The one that has 3 bunk beds in the back with cargo door.
We have not seen that one yet. Lance seems to have done a great job maximizing space. Thanks for watching.
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I'm so glad someone else is seeing this too. another thing that gets me is, if you go anywhere that's cold ( snowboarding, snowmobiling, ice fishing etc.) they don't have appropriate insulation and heating. doesn't anyone camp unless it's 70 degrees outside?
@@suewiseley2724 I don’t know any camp trailer built to handle that low of temps. Especially their water systems.
I love Lances, we almost drove clear across the US for a 1984 model that met our needs, but some of the outdoor features you mentioned, like the table holder, have been on other RV models for a few years. Heartland has had it for 3yrs now.
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I like it
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I have a double axel LANCE 5th wheel RV that is 19-1/2 ft long and 8 feet wide manufactured in 1989. I have owned it since the year 2003. It is well insulated, easy to heat and or keep cool. I love it and they are built to last.
Great to hear thanks for watching.
Great review. This TT is really well thought out. Super storage.
I was camping this past weekend and walked in a Lance TT almost identical to this model (I’d swear it was the same).
But when compared to a Northwoods Arctic Fox TT there is no comparison in build quality. The Lance has walls less than half the thickness, the roof is probably 1/4 the depth, and there is no comparison of the frame, when compared to an Arctic Fox.
The big disadvantage of the Arctic Fox is its weight. Because it has such a heavy frame and more than double the insulation it is very heavy.
I know my 34’ Arctic Fox fifth wheel weighs more than most 40’ fifth wheels
Pros and cons to every brand and RV. Just depends upon what is important to one.
Thanks for a great review.
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We took delivery of our new Lance 1985 in early Spring 2018, so going on 5 years now. Prior to that, we owned a Lance 1685. Ours has most all of the factory upgrades, including convertible sofa, solar, 3” raised chassis for off-roading, power stabilizers, slide-out bin in the front storage area, and more. Here are our observations:
Pros
• A big advantage: To cut costs, most RV builders place their different length boxes on the same length chassis. This results in a less-than-optimal balance over the axles. Lance builds their frames to match the box size. Consequently, the axles are at the optimum location beneath the box, balance is enhanced, and it tows like a trailer weighing much less.
• Fit and finish is excellent. Little touches like edge molding and the light fixtures are simply a cut above the competition. Quality components.
• For a 23’ trailer, it’s very spacious, tons of internal and external storage.
• Huge slide-out, comfortable, plush cushions, seats 4 adults easily. Never any mechanical problems.
• Solid roof, 40-45 gallon tanks, 4-season capable.
• Convertible sofa. It’s actually very comfy. We use it all the time.
• Dual axles - rides smoothly and tracks straight. Quality tires.
• Excellent solar charging system. We replaced the dual factory 12-volt batteries with dual 6-volt batteries. The batteries have never run down past 2/3 full, even over multiple cloudy days and overnight in cold weather.
• Walk-around bed. The crawl-over bed in our previous Lance 1685 proved to be a pain and was one of the drivers that motivated us to step up to the Lance 1985.
• Audio and TV/DVD system work fine. 6 speakers total.
• Our 2018 Ram 1500 has no trouble whatsoever towing the 1985. A ½ ton will pull this trailer no problem provided you have the correct axle gear ratio. Our previous 2007 Ram 1500 did not and it struggled.
• Initial price is high, but resale value is outstanding. We sold our Lance 1685 for more than we paid for it.
Cons
• As a rule, we’ve found that the things that malfunction are typically sourced components like the Dometic appliances, not the Lance trailer itself.
• A/C is loud. You’ll either need shore power, a generator larger than 2000 watts, or install an EasyStart soft starter. A 2000-watt generator may or may not have enough juice on start-up. We once had a pair of Generac 2000-watt generators paired in parallel (3200 watts on startup). We attempted to run both the A/C and the microwave at the same time. It fried the circuit boards on both generators. This is an issue with any trailer. Watch your wattage demands vs. supply.
• Slide-out external screws come loose. Others have noted this issue. Had to replace with larger screws.
• Changed the basic shower head to a better-quality head. Saves water, increases pressure.
• Lance customer service is just OK. However, the Lance Owners Association (LOA) is a fantastic resource for tips, advice, etc.
• The inside diameter of the rear bumper is too small to accommodate the sewage hoses. Don’t know why Lance couldn’t use a slightly larger bumper (literally, just a ½” larger) so that you can store the hoses inside the bumper, on the outside the trailer instead of having to put them in a sealed container in the rear outside storage compartment.
• Biggest complaint: The awning is rarely usable for two reasons. 1) It uses scissor arms to extend and retract. Sounds great on paper - no clotheslining as you walk around outside. However, if even a light-moderate breeze comes up, the awning starts to flap and risks torquing the arms and breaking them. The automatic retraction feature that senses potentially damaging winds is nice, but it retracts whenever there's the slightest breeze. There is no provision for attaching guy lines or poles to help stabilize. 2) The awning will hit the door if left open. If you try to extend or retract the awning while the door is open, you will surely damage the door, the awning, or both - significantly. In our view, this is a major design flaw. If we leave the auto-retract feature on, we can’t leave the door open. If we want the door open, we have to turn off the auto-retract feature, thus risking awning breakage if a gust hits.
Despite the cons, all in all, we love our Lance 1985 and would buy again.
Glad to hear you have enjoyed yours. Thanks for watching.
Excellent review...nicely done!
I purchased a 2022 and received it March 2022. It is now almost a year later and I’m still having the problems with it. For one the material used around the slide out his contact paper on top of a fiber board and that does not work, it starts to crack and come off. The cabinets above the sink and the cooktop are also contact paper on a curve and it started to come apart. Bubbling cracking. The shades at the front are guided by two nylon strings with some what I refer to as backpackers That pack the folds down but they are held on using double face tape, which then eventually come off and then the whole shade buckles into the living quarters. The mattress if you notice when in the video you flipped the mattress over the bottom, half slides down, and it’s not being supported by the platform and so when you’re sleeping, you feel that seem many other problems with mine and still after 10 months, I am still waiting for repairs.
Sorry to hear you are having those problems. Is the factory working with you?
Wow, and they aren't cheap. I was looking at one but the owner of the dealership told me surveyor by forest river is a better choice than Lance and cheaper. I bought 2021 19bhle and so far it has been great. Took it out at least 10 times off road camping. The only complaint about it is the heater a bit loud at night. Hopefully the warranty will resolve your problems
Good work! Great review.
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This brand is one to watch, if you are not ready to buy. Quality, features is top notch !! It is expensive, but, I think the total overall value is there! Tx Bill in Canada
We agree. Thanks for watching.
I can get more for my 2016 fiberglass Casita Spirit Deluxe 17’ travel trailer than I paid for it new! I can easily tow it behind my FJ Cruiser too! I love that trailer! Happy camping!
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😄👍Good Stuff, Great Tips
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Nice presentation Junkies !!
Thanks for watching. We try our best.
Lance all ways has very good attention to detail on what they make. You pay for it but if you can afford it get it. They tow very good.
Thanks for watching. We were very impressed.
I really have to say, you did a fantastic job reviewing this trailer, haven't even finished watching it yet lol!!!
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Sold!!! I’m buying one!!! 👍🏽
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I have a 05 Holiday Rambler Savoy all aluminum welded frame , aluminum side walls ,frame rated 10,000 lbs capacity Holiday Rambler only made these 2 years ,18year old decals still look new shine sideways ,that quality.
Holiday Ramblers were/ are top quality units. Thanks for watching.
Pretty Dang cool!!
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I’ve been impressed with Lance quality for a long time. Not sure I would want to be walking across the vinyl roof and over the solar panel and A/C to get to the roof rack. Also I know many manufacturers have the foot of the bed just as you walk into the camper, sometimes even a few inches blocking the entryway I’m not a fan of that. Our 19’ has the bed at the rear so if my wife is napping I’m not waking her. But over all very nice
I think it is a really quality unit. Thanks for watching.
I’ve owned four trailers now I have now had a Lance 22,85 or the last nine years best trailer I’ve ever owned love it live in Canada travel a lot west my trailer I didn’t notice. I’m not sure if I am right, but the suspension it look to be springs only thing I don’t like about my trailer, it’s a bit low. I’d like it to be a few inches higher besides that a very good trailer had no trouble in the last nine years.
Glad to hear from a real owner’s perspective. Thanks for watching.
It's nice that to fold the bed back up, you're just lifting the mattress, unlike other units where you're lifting a wooden board underneith it.
It does get you more living space in a relatively small trailer. Thanks for watching.
I appreciate and am grateful for the UA-camrs that do these videos. Here is one thing I do not understand, why to the vast majority of these reviews always start with the outside of the RV rather than the inside? For me, if I do not like the interior I don't care about the exterior. It is mute.
Thanks for watching. We try to start outside because lighting is better .
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Don’t like the euro windows and stargazer window. We have them in our Little Guy Max and the shade mechanism has been nothing but trouble. The pleated edges let mosquitoes in big time! As for the “stargazer” window, when we go to bed after stargazing outside darkness is key and if you fall asleep with it open your gonna make a lot of noise struggling to close it at 5am. Also, the lack of counter prep space is a consideration-we do a lot of cooking when we’re out. Otherwise I love Lance trailers. They’re on our list to replace our Little Guy Max.
I have heard 50/50 on the euro windows. Glad to hear your experience. Thanks for watching.
You forgot to mention that wall protection around the stove,what an awesome addition most manufacturers don't have, don't mind me,you still did a fantastic job on this review, I can see why you endorse it,as I would as well!!!
We did not know about the wall protection. I will look into that.
Only 75000$ 😂 I’ll stick with my 2022 wolfPup that I just paid off
Nothing wrong with a paid off trailer.
Only big change I would make is to have a folding or retractable cover for the folded up bed. It's an eyesore. Not to mention, a folding panel that could store underneath could be used to increase places to put things while relaxing on the sofa.
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Noticed some shock absorbers on those axles as well. That is super uncommon, in fact I am not aware of any travel trailer that has those from the factory. Pretty nice unit.
Good eye I completely missed that.
Outdoors RV has them as well
thanks for your videos , there is a lot of doors on the side of this RV makes prone to accident because the laches can open on road .... the second thing the shower is too small , the third thing instead of chairs and tables they could design a table can introduce near the mattress and sitting space there. the third thing how strong is the slide room eventually it will be a problem. the next thing what structural materials they used in that RV.Also whether they have mosquito nets in the windows which helpful in warm climate.
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I owned a Lance 2285TT, the largest at the time I bought it. It was okay, but really no different than other brands I've owned. We sold it and went to a larger 5th wheel.
Which 5th wheel did you get? Thanks for watching.
@@JauntJunkies Jayco Northpoint.
turn the table upside down though when storing. easier for the stored items in the tray not to get caught or stuck
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They all look good when new! Check out a five year old model thats been used. Then do your shopping.
For sure it is just hard to find 5 year old models that people want to let us film. Thanks for watching.
I need one for my daughter
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EVER
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Love it. She really showcased much of the interior. Dude needs to man up though and stop being a whining baby about what he doesn't like. Her purse is definitely bigger than his. 🤣
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A locking covered battery is about the coolest feature. Less worry of battery theft.
Especially if you have lithium batteries like we do. That would suck to have them stolen. Thanks for watching.
Can you pull out the moraid storage tray from both ends?
I can’t remember off the top of my head but I don’t think so.
Thank you I need this one very nice but how much approximately to buy it?
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Lance is the only camper company that can extend your stay by making time stand still I see.
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I WAS SOLD UNTIL I REALIZED YOU HAVE TO PUT THE SLIDE OUT TO WATCH THE TV. WHAT A BUMMER.
Yeah not a ton of room in a trailer this size. Thanks for watching.
Im not seeing the 58-64 grand
I think that may go with any rv built today. Thanks for watching.
@@JauntJunkies true dat my friend… or anything else these days… lol
Great thorough review. Lance quality or not I don't care for any sort of dinette set up.
Thanks for watching. It seems like people are 50/50 on the dinette’s in RV’s.
@@JauntJunkies for a single person that has been a full timer that's a waste of potential storage space. I've never sat in one that I found comfortable and I'm 5'3' weigh 110. I had both removed on my previous r.v.s My next r.v won't be full time but I will purchase a unit sans dinette. I love browsing these videos. Thank you.
Do the windows have screens to keep out bugs?
Yes they have screens that lift up from the bottom of the window.
Compared to a Nash 18FM, a distant second or third.
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Ever since they were bought out by the REV group a few years ago Lance quality has decreased a lot! I've talked to a number of RV dealers and they all agree.
Personally I wouldn't touch a Lance. Do some research first.
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I thought I was going to really like this trailer and I do. BUT, bedroom windows are way too big, it needs to be dark to sleep. For me anyway. Black sink in the bathroom is a nightmare. Waterspots are white. Been there done that. Don't like the bed set up, change up thing. It has to be a bed and stay a bed but I understand the reasoning. Well made trailer, I love the kitchen even the step up dinette. Reminds me of our boat...thankyou folks!
Thanks for watching. Great perspective on your comments.
Old technology 1 solar panel. And your frame is made of wood. You have to step up. Look at Kendron in Australia
Does Kendrick sale in the U.S? Never heard of them. Thanks for watching.
I don't think Lance uses wood as a framing material...the walls are aluminum frames and hard block foam insulation thermo-bonded between fibreglass....Lance uses composite Azdel in place of Luan wood, to eliminate mold and mildew. Azdel is also lighter, carcinogen and formaldehyde free and has better "R" value for superior insulation. They do spend alot of time focused on weight reduction (including the lower-riding suspension of the coach) to improve trailering performance...The roof is also a fully walk-on structure...
Nice but the slideout could be the Achilles heel. A friend got one and getting the slideout fixed was a nightmare
What broke on his slide?
Sorry don’t know the specifics.
@@thomaswindle4663 ok I was just curious. Thanks for watching.
Get the better Vroom slide out system. No problems
I absolutely love Lance's...but the price on these things has gotten way too out of control.....80k Canadian for these things now where it was more around 65k only 5 years ago. I especially love the new 2085 model.
Thanks for watching. I bet we are prices come down to reality this year because dealers are overstocked.
Thanks , how much would it cost?
We did not see a price listed. I am sure Parris RV can get you a very competitive price. Thanks for watching.
I like the Lance 1985 it's a great layout, unfortunately, although they are made well, they have long term problems. The axles aren't rated high enough they bend and eat tires. The carrying capacity is poor, especially loaded with water. The tongue weight is 600lbs it's heavier than the specs state. For the amount of money these cost they're just not worth it.
Thanks for watching. Good to hear your feedback on them. Do you own one?
Starting in 2022 they changed axles & frame. Heavier duty. We are now considering it for our next trailer.
A solar generator can be on while in the compartment
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Nice, but I still like the Jayco Jay Feather 21MML - I do like the clever storage ideas... may add it to the 21MML ;) Thank You!
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The camper is Hella impressive! So much for the size and very well engineered! Just wish it wasn't $56,000. 😢 The quality is there, though.
Thanks for watching. Yeah a bit pricey.
I know. For some reason they don't talk about the price very often!
It wobbles and wiggles a lot when parked with the stabilizers down. Had to add JT Strong Arm stabilizers.
It seems like many if not most do. Did the JT Strong Arms make much of a difference.
@@JauntJunkies like night and day. Well worth the money.
The CAD Computer systems are light years ahead of the systems of 1985. I definitely would have upgraded and redisigned the bathroom.
As it is the shower is just too small.
Thanks for watching. Systems of 1985?
Can you get to the bathroom with the slide in?
Maybe. We did not slide the slide in to check for sure.
@@JauntJunkies I made that mistake. Found out I have to climb over the recliners and counter to get to the bed. Not good for staying at cracker barrel.
Roof material? Warranty? Dimensions of bed?
Rv queen bed. Don’t know on roof membrane. I assume 1 year warranty like most rvs. But if you are really interested I am sure it goes into way more detail on all specifications on the Lance website. Thanks for watching.
Wish the price range would be mentioned
www.parrisrv.com/new-rvs-for-sale?s=true&lots=1231&manufacturer=lance
I live in Quebec on the land for the last nine years. Sad that there are no dealers within. Reach hard to buy mine in Ontario dealer doesn’t exist anymore. I think dealers don’t carry Lance because of the price range.
They are more expensive than similar sized units but I think their build quality is higher. I do think we will see a price reduction this year across the entire rv industry. Thanks for watching.
There’s a Lance dealer near Ottawa. We ordered a Lance truck camper took delivery last November.
Lance 2295 owner for 3 years now!
Would never spend that type of money again for a RV trailer!
Something always breaks.
There are much better options out there for less money!
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Run us around $ 50 g’s with extras
Btw no inverters for the solar that’s extra
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We have a grand design travel trailer and our ladder is very solid. You pay alot for all this too.
Yes you do pay a lot for all this. Grand design makes nice trailers. Thanks for watching.
Does it have the same junky rubber roof? How bad is it going to leak in 6 months?
No idea on the roof material and if it would start leaking in 6 months. Did this happen to you? What rubber material are you referring too so I can look into this. Thanks for watching.
Love it but what is the cost ?
Every dealership is different but you can jump on Parris RVs website and they have current prices. Thanks for watching.
By can't you people just tell people the price of the units your advertising to give people a ball park figure what kind of money they are looking at we wouldn't have to spend hours on sites just to find it you would probley get more sales if you were just transparent about people's ?
I dont see 100k worth in this unit maybe I am wrong.
I don’t remember it being 100k. Thanks for watching
@@JauntJunkies in Canada they start at 89k and go up plus our tax here is 13%.
No matter what You build, there's that 5% that always says, "if only it had this or did that I'd buy one" That gets tiring to hear, I say if You pay enough Money You can have it Your Way, but otherwise then that shut up and live with it if You can't afford to have Custom Built!
Thanks for watching. Would be so amazing to have a custom build.
We want ccc (1440) and dry weight, 5,000 and something? 300# rack needs to be 500#, some people electric wheel chairs. Water intake and outside shower needs to be locking. (Non standard rv keys that are all the same!).
Thanks for watching. I have no idea on how it is all keyed. Sorry did not factor in people’s wheel chairs etc.
Heavy for a 20 footer right?
Yeah it is. We like that because sometimes lighter means less quality. Thanks for watching.
Great video but next time tell us the price or did I miss that? thx!
The price is just never the msrp and varies so much place to place. Thanks for watching.
I really wanted to hear about the 4 season package....
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Sorry we did not go into detail on that. Typically that means that the water tanks have a heat pad to keep them from freezing and a little better insulation throughout.
Maybe you should buy this trailer sir😊
We already have two trailers. Might be a good option for # 3. Thanks for watching.
They say if you have to ask how much it is, you can't afford it: they're wrong...so, how much is it? and which state is Parris in?
Parris is in Payson Utah. The prices for all trailers is dropping so it is probably way less than when we filmed.
How tall is the gentleman? The only possible problem may be my height in the shower. I'm 6'3". Great looking layout!
I am 5’10”. 6’3” might make most travel trailers a little cramped. Thanks for watching.
@@JauntJunkies Thanks!
What year is this? I love
the layout!
I believe it was a 2022.
I believe it was a 2022.
Count how many times they said “dang”. That’s dang funny. But what about the msrp?
Make it a drinking game. Thanks for watching
if you dont run your stored generator while onboard why is the door vented?
I don’t know if the venting would be enough without an exhaust pipe. Thanks for watching.
My last comment, I forgot to mention Lance communications is excellent
May be one of the most important parts of a manufacturer is strong communication with owners.
Would like a screen door.
It has one that slides open from the door frame. We just missed it when filming.
Most RV ladders........are shit.😂😂😂 I laughed too hard at that.
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Note enough pantry space or off the grid
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Don’t forget to tell people that some RV parks won’t let you bring your camper into a park if it’s “too old”.
Some parks have went this policy. Luckily 1984 is the model number not the year on this one.
How much do front windows cost to replace them when rocks chips them driving down the road
I don’t know. I have seen them going down the road with a cover on the front window. Looks like it buttons on.
@@JauntJunkies auto weave makes the cover. They are in Denver Colorado area 350 for padded.
‘Really big’ and ‘really small’ are not actual terms for propane tank sizes…I’ll figure out their sizes. Thanks.
Thanks for watching. I am sure they have everything on the spec sheet on the website.
Awesum trailer. Bathroom to small
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