Analogue Mega SG Versus Hyperkin Mega Retron HD! Audio & Visual Comparison!

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  • Опубліковано 14 гру 2024

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  • @Madlittlepixel
    @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому +6

    Which do you prefer? *ANY AUDIO DELAY IS A CAPTURE OR PROCESSING ISSUE. BOTH OUTPUT SOUND SYNCED PROPERLY IRL.
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    • @xenobestx8423
      @xenobestx8423 5 років тому

      The SG.

    • @TheUnlovedhomie
      @TheUnlovedhomie 5 років тому

      You sure cuz only one game seemed to have audio delay to me honestly ? Sonic 3 rings on the SG seemed off. Is that really just the capture cards doing ?
      Otherwise sg sounded better and the look was to Close to call on my phone

    • @Madlittlepixel
      @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому +1

      @@TheUnlovedhomie after listening and watching on the original video file the lag is not there. Playing on my tv no lag. Makes me think a UA-cam processing issue maybe.

    • @ootwii
      @ootwii 5 років тому

      Does the master system converter that came with the mega sg work on the mega retron hd??.

    • @TheUnlovedhomie
      @TheUnlovedhomie 5 років тому

      @@Madlittlepixel thx for replying, ill check again when i get home. And chance you'll add a poll in the community tab or something for the next few games compared? Hoping to see some gunstar heroes, its the genesis game i know the most lol.
      Great video btw

  • @BanditBuzz
    @BanditBuzz 5 років тому +31

    If you are looking for a system that is as close to the original as possible with the added ability to output in 1080p for modern TV's and have the extra $$$ to burn...the Mega SG would be the obvious choice. If you already have several original Genesis units and just want something to plug and play on a modern TV for as little $$$ as possible...the Hyperkin is an absolute steal of a deal.

    • @DarDarBinks1986
      @DarDarBinks1986 5 років тому +1

      Or you could just get an after-market component cable and use that. I did it with HD Retrovision's YPbPr cable for both the Genesis and Saturn. All I needed were adapters for both (I have a Model 1 Genesis). Still cheaper than buying SCART or JP-21 cables, a SCART or JP-21 switch box, and a Framemeister. Sure, it's analog (no pun intended), but it does the job. I bought HD Retrovision's cable the day of launch with my own money, and have not looked back.

  • @SegaKid_V
    @SegaKid_V 5 років тому +14

    I own the Mega Retron HD and I'm very happy with it.

    • @pixelplayer140
      @pixelplayer140 3 роки тому +1

      But still the Mega SG is where the money is at

    • @SnarkyRC
      @SnarkyRC 3 роки тому +3

      I like my Mega Retron HD as well. Works great

    • @GabrielWhitaker-iw2hj
      @GabrielWhitaker-iw2hj 6 місяців тому +1

      I would love to have the mega SG but I can't because it's out of stock. So my options are getting a mega retron hd or a retron 5.

    • @Housestationlive
      @Housestationlive 21 день тому +1

      is there a way to play sg-1000 games with it ?

  • @ChitChatGaming
    @ChitChatGaming 5 років тому +25

    Mega SG for sure, for the price the Mega Retron isn’t awful but the SG is superior.

    • @barrywilliams5222
      @barrywilliams5222 5 років тому +2

      @alak58 mega sg is lagless and generates video in real time. audio is better and you can have master system and game gear at 60hz

    • @pixelplayer140
      @pixelplayer140 3 роки тому +1

      @@barrywilliams5222 aswell as SG-1000, mark III, and the sega cards/my cards

    • @전성진-h3v
      @전성진-h3v 3 роки тому

      @@barrywilliams5222 ㄷ

  • @stabinghobo57
    @stabinghobo57 5 років тому +13

    The Analog Mega SG is perfect. But for the price the Hyperkin Genesis is not that bad, just the picture quality is darker and there is a frame skip in the audio after every 30 are so seconds.
    Great video!

    • @stabinghobo57
      @stabinghobo57 5 років тому

      iVirtualPlays: I have a Model 2 Genesis hooked up to my framemister.
      I’m Interested in the Analog consoles just for longevity, and to run emulation on them also.

  • @TimDavis77
    @TimDavis77 5 років тому +6

    Mega Sg has much better audio, and the video looks crisper, but for the money, it's hard to throw too much shade on the Mega Retron HD. I'm a fan of FPGA, though, and the fact that Analogue is coming out with a DAC for their systems to use on a CRT/PVM, combined with Sega CD support makes me go with the Mega Sg. Mine just got here today.

  • @jeff97ish
    @jeff97ish 5 років тому +3

    I got the Mega Retron HD when it came out and was pleased with it. Then I got into HD Retrovision cables through the RetroTINK 2X. I finally got the Mega SG a few weeks or so ago and I actually use all three ways of playing Genesis games. I bought my first Master System game Double Dragon to use with the adapter with the Mega SG. I am really pleased that it worked well. I really don't think you can go wrong with any of these options. As long as you are enjoying it, then it doesn't matter. Great video Ron!

    • @abh6968
      @abh6968 2 роки тому

      all 3 are wrong .
      $15 android box
      is the best way
      sorry mate

  • @Johnnygrafx
    @Johnnygrafx 5 років тому +7

    for the price, the hyperkin system is really nice. But if you got the cash, there's just no reason to not get the mega sg

  • @user-rd5wj2mm8n
    @user-rd5wj2mm8n 5 років тому +4

    You can almost feel the self-proclaimed 'hardcore' scoffing.

  • @Tongster84
    @Tongster84 5 років тому +4

    Good comparison the only reason I would want a mega Sg is the Sega Cd feature

  • @fordxbgtfalcon
    @fordxbgtfalcon 3 роки тому +1

    I wanted a Hyperkin one for quite a while because of its abilities to play multicarts, everdrive and Virtua Racing but the multiple negative reviews of people saying that it would die after just 20 minutes of playing had me terrified to buy one. But I’m glad I waited a few years because now it seems like they are working properly, at least mine is as of the time of this comment.

    • @SnarkyRC
      @SnarkyRC 3 роки тому +1

      I like my Mega Retron HD. It works great. It's well worth the price

  • @binarybond007
    @binarybond007 5 років тому +6

    I would like to see it compared to MiSTer Genesis core...

  • @zinesis
    @zinesis 5 років тому +2

    Still got mine and is still working great, btw guys if you have an everdrive search this rom hacks Street Fighter 2 (color and sound improvements), Sonic Mania, and Scott Pilgrim (Streets of Rage Hack)

  • @TheGameBeaters
    @TheGameBeaters 5 років тому +1

    I had to read the comments being an audio guy. I noticed the retron was louder and it made we wonder if psychoacoustic masking would affect what people think. This is simply the theory that generally people find louder music sounds better when compared. To my surprise most of the comments enjoy the Mega Sg. To my ears it almost sounded as if the retron added clipping while the Analogue made sure to keep the sound normalized. Interesting video and comparison. I like the SG but I’m slightly biased.

    • @albey1816
      @albey1816 5 років тому +1

      The Mega SG by default has a -3db applied to the audio output in the settings ( Set it back to 0db for comparisons )

    • @TheGameBeaters
      @TheGameBeaters 5 років тому +1

      Albey that makes sense and is a good idea. I’m really considering getting one of just to play with the audio options.

    • @Oysterblade84
      @Oysterblade84 11 місяців тому

      I noticed the Mega Retron has louder PSG than the Mega SG. This means certain sound effects and square wave instruments will be louder in the mixing with FM than what we got in the original system. The Mega SG can customise the audio levels and settings so if the PSG is too loud you can soften it, or if you want it identical to the Hyperkin Mega Retron mixing level, you can do that too so all in all, the Analogue Mega SG wins!

  • @MrTreesSapling
    @MrTreesSapling 5 років тому +1

    The Analogue SG sounds like an Emulated Model 1, super clear and nice sounding. The Hyperkin sounds like on of the Model 2 revisions with slightly muffled audio and not the cleanest mixing.
    Both look acceptable, and both sound like official Genesis hardware, even if one is clearly lightyears better in the audio department.
    No AtGames here. Really which one you buy depends on if you want HD Sega CD, or if your a total audiophile. Or feel like spending the extra money for slightly better video/audio and probably extremely better build quality

  • @slimsx34
    @slimsx34 5 років тому +2

    The only reason I am even considering the analogue version is the Sega cd support. The sound is obviously better too, but not 160$ worth better

    • @grimmbilly9263
      @grimmbilly9263 5 років тому

      There seems to be some issues with the Sega CD at the moment, which I'm sure will be fixed in future firmware updates. The scary issue is some people getting a shock when touching a Mega SG that's attached to a Sega CD. I haven't tried using my model 2 Sega CD with the Mega SG yet, and it will probably be awhile before I do. They're talking about this on the Atari Age forums btw.

  • @urielgalvan1095
    @urielgalvan1095 5 років тому +3

    I was hoping someone made this head to head match up.

    • @ootwii
      @ootwii 5 років тому

      I was thinkin the same thing..

  • @RetroGamerBB
    @RetroGamerBB 5 років тому +2

    Now that's blast processing!!!!

  • @vadergamer453
    @vadergamer453 5 років тому +1

    Are you ready???
    Are you ready????
    Lets get it on !!!!!

  • @indcsion
    @indcsion 5 років тому +3

    Are you going to compare mister to mega sg? That would interesting to see how close they are.

    • @Madlittlepixel
      @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому +3

      Sure why not

    • @indcsion
      @indcsion 5 років тому +2

      Awesome. I didnt really have a reason to get the mega sg since I only have a couple genesis games. I do have game gear games so maybe when they release that adapter.

  • @leonogueira1636
    @leonogueira1636 5 років тому +2

    Mega sg = rgb to hdmi and prestige áudio because it use the Sega sound replica “chipset” , Sega hyperkin = composite to hdmi , sound messy must use emulate sound (I’m not sure) .... so .... mega sg high end genesis and the sega hyperkin it’s a budget ....

  • @jam237
    @jam237 5 років тому +1

    Let the battle begin! But SG wins audio sounded cleaner although it's very minor.

  • @yllib2012
    @yllib2012 3 роки тому +2

    You rock fellow nerd!!!

  • @nathanhardie6124
    @nathanhardie6124 5 років тому +1

    Can't wait for your next video... The Sprit Pocket vs The PS4

  • @guangsihan
    @guangsihan 5 років тому +5

    Am I the only one who prefers the Mega Retron shell design? It has the whole 'ring/circle' thing on the top, whereas the Mega SG has the 'ring/circle' cut off on the top edge. Again I'm only talking about the shell/housing design, not the performance.

    • @Madlittlepixel
      @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому +4

      I really love all of Hyperkins designs for the casing since the Retron HD and the quality with the plastics used. The Mega Retron's shell does look awesome in my opinion.

    • @mr.z8877
      @mr.z8877 5 років тому +1

      M.R HD ALL THE WAY The SG is good if you have Sega CD but a lot of people do not own a Sega CD and a lot of people is not going to buy a Sega CD Now just because the mega SG came out let's be honest I own a lot of cartridges and to me the Retron HD is good for me I don't need a high-tech device just for the sound and the picture is dicen better than the classic oh I got to do is go to a bit and by the same control as the mega SG

    • @Zethtk
      @Zethtk 5 років тому

      Yeah you are the only one

    • @guangsihan
      @guangsihan 5 років тому

      @@Zethtk good to know

  • @xenobestx8423
    @xenobestx8423 5 років тому +2

    I still prefer the SG.

  • @jjmturbo
    @jjmturbo 5 років тому +1

    I've also been trying to find more comparison videos of the 8bitdo m30 vs the krikzz joyzz. I know you said the krikzz was slightly more responsive than the m30. Another reviewer claimed he couldn't tell the difference. Anyone have any input?

    • @Madlittlepixel
      @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому +2

      If comparing the Krikzz to the Bluetooth version, the input lag is immediately noticeable. Comparing to the 2.4ghz the lag is not as noticeable but is slightly more than the Joyzz. That was my take. The Krikzz is awesome, the 2.4 is good, and the bluetooth is ok. Take a look at this article for an actual scientific approach to comparing the 3, I went off of feel and boom, just as I thought the numbers support how I interpreted the response/lag. Take a look~
      www.retrorgb.com/krikzz-joyzz-vs-8bitdo-m30-2-4g-vs-8bitdo-m30-bluetooth-input-latency-lag-testing.html

    • @jjmturbo
      @jjmturbo 5 років тому

      @@Madlittlepixel awesome article thanks for sharing. I like how the krikzz seems to have a super long life battery over the competition as well. I got a shot to buy 2 new krikzz controllers for $70.00 I think I might have to just do it.

  • @craigjuan5744
    @craigjuan5744 5 років тому

    I think both of them are good systems. Though if I have to pick one, I'd go with the Mega SG. It's so good

  • @ragezone9188
    @ragezone9188 5 років тому

    I like the abundant sound of the retron

  • @brnexus7475
    @brnexus7475 5 років тому

    And remember this is just defaults, you can tweak the Mega Sg audio like crazy.

  • @dad7275
    @dad7275 4 роки тому

    For price..maybe the Hyperkin between the two, but for original feel, and sound..get a original model 1 with that special Yamaha chip.😊👍

  • @RetroTechSelect
    @RetroTechSelect 5 років тому

    Nice to see this comparison! I only had two Gennies and an AtGames clone on hand to compare with.

  • @AdversaryOne
    @AdversaryOne 5 років тому +2

    I lean more towards the Analogue SG while my wife likes the Retron HD. She says the sharp color separation makes it look like there's less colors in the Sonic title screen. It's funny though, I'd rather play Sonic on the Analogue because I like the sharpness and NBA Jam on the Retron because I feel the blurry image helps the players appear more real, which is what the developers were going for. Sound is superior on the Analogue, overall.

    • @2004DMP
      @2004DMP 5 років тому +2

      AdversaryOne There’s dither blending on the Mega SG.

  • @tomyk6606
    @tomyk6606 5 років тому

    Has controller connectivity issues.

  • @fatty1190
    @fatty1190 5 років тому

    Do the 8bitdo controllers work with the Mega Retron?

    • @Madlittlepixel
      @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому

      yep, no problem.

    • @fatty1190
      @fatty1190 5 років тому

      @@Madlittlepixel awesome. Highly considering picking up one of these consoles. Just ordered an AVS and Super NT so i can't afford to keep breaking the bank by getting the Mega SG lol.
      Thanks btw!

  • @NeverB_Gameover
    @NeverB_Gameover 5 років тому

    The fact that the Mega SG can play these new Genesis releases makes it worth it.

    • @mr.z8877
      @mr.z8877 5 років тому +1

      and the Mega Retron as well

  • @rossoreilly05
    @rossoreilly05 5 років тому +1

    Mega SG Vs Mister please.

  • @argedismun2
    @argedismun2 5 років тому

    The mega sg looks so sexy next to the hyperkin

  • @MisterSouji
    @MisterSouji 5 років тому +1

    Yo. I'd like to point out the Mega Retron HD has a habit of badly scaling certain games and sometimes this leads to really bad shimmering. I have it and I enjoy it, but I feel not enough people mention it as it can be a deal breaker for many people. Super Street Fighter 2 has some stages that are almost unplayable on it due to how bad they look. 90% of games are going to look and run great though.

  • @kouroscologne1622
    @kouroscologne1622 2 роки тому

    good video

  • @jjmturbo
    @jjmturbo 5 років тому +1

    Mega sg seemed more quiet and brighter display than retron. I actually like the louder music in the retron but I imagine that could be adjusted on the sg.

    • @Madlittlepixel
      @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому +2

      yep, tons of audio options on the SG. The Genesis was a weird one when it came to audio, with different chip revisions etc and techniques used. The SG does a good job of allowing you to dial that in to how you remembered it if you grew up playing the Genesis.

    • @brnexus7475
      @brnexus7475 5 років тому +1

      Mega Sg default has - 3db turned on, so if you disable that you'll get louder audio.

  • @movement1957
    @movement1957 5 років тому

    The mega sounds better too me

  • @Chowdah_62
    @Chowdah_62 5 років тому +1

    SG all the way

  • @riggel8804
    @riggel8804 5 років тому +2

    Y u no talk bout input lag brah? This is a video game console not a dvd player.

    • @riggel8804
      @riggel8804 5 років тому

      @Mr Poopyhead the retron uses software emulation and there is at least 1.5 frames of lag. Maybe you just aren't noticing it. If you tried to play punch out nes or another difficult game that you have experience with you would probably notice. Unless you've never played on original hardware with a crt. In that case you wouldn't have anything to compare it to. Your hd crt definitely adds input lag. I've never played on one but I have heard the lag is comparable to a flat-screen.

    • @riggel8804
      @riggel8804 5 років тому

      @Mr Poopyhead yeah. I think you're right. I don't have any personal experience with the nes on a chip or" genesis on a chip"systems but I guess it is hardware emulation and wouldn't have any input lag. Otherwise the snes jr (one chip snes) would have input lag and it doesn't. The snes jr is basically a licensed clone console. My bad

    • @riggel8804
      @riggel8804 5 років тому

      @Mr Poopyhead , I usually game on original hardware and crts but I recently got the chance to play the NES classic at this weird/cool game club. It was hooked up to a cheap flat-screen. I played through Castlevania 1 and the lag was annoying but manageable . Then this dude strolled up and we got to talking. He had a low latency (5ms latency) flatscreen monitor in his trunk. He used it for Smash Bros tournaments. I played through Castlevania again with his monitor and the lag was noticeably better but still there. It got me to thinking. Maybe these low latency computer monitors are the way of the future.

    • @riggel8804
      @riggel8804 5 років тому

      @Mr Poopyhead yeah dude. I'm from the USA. Never heard of it. Ps 1 with rgb looks amazing. I'm literally playing valkyrie profile on ps1 through rgb right now.
      Unfortunately the 8 and 16 systems are the ones you really need zero lag for. So many amazing difficult games- actraiser 2, battletoads, alien soldier, these are games you dont want to play on a flat-screen with an emularor

  • @a11danielvv
    @a11danielvv 5 років тому

    the mister is the best...fpga...and no tax extra...Analogue!! When we care about Europeans, it will be late

  • @davidboettcher4554
    @davidboettcher4554 5 років тому +1

    I prefer original with component cables. Native. With an everdrive.

  • @dirkb9788
    @dirkb9788 5 років тому +1

    Mega SG sounds better.

  • @edwin8808
    @edwin8808 5 років тому +3

    A Ferrari vs a crappy car brand! :D!

  • @drumsea
    @drumsea Рік тому

    Tell me Mega Retron HD is a hardware clone or an emulator?

  • @fabiomoreiras5750
    @fabiomoreiras5750 5 років тому

    Mega sg é bem mais próximo do Genesis,tanto em som como em imagem.

  • @ngokthai76
    @ngokthai76 2 роки тому

    Analogue all days.

  • @AP101083
    @AP101083 5 років тому +1

    It's just like comparing a Rolls Roys with an Opel or a Rolex with a Seiko.

  • @notsoanonymous2458
    @notsoanonymous2458 5 років тому

    In the pic at 55 sec you put the boxes behind the wrong consoles, you should've switched them, or rather you did switch them. I'll let it go, though since I really like your channel. :) Peace, man.

  • @jamesd.5176
    @jamesd.5176 6 місяців тому

    Wow! Couldn’t tell a difference from either one.

  • @deckofcards87
    @deckofcards87 5 років тому

    MEGA SG >>>
    That wasn't hard.

  • @MrMayfield310
    @MrMayfield310 5 років тому +1

    Mega sg has sound lag, bad. That’s terrible imo. Can’t deal with that mess. Retron for the win. Or just get a damn crt from the goodwills . Keep it original! Just saying🤯 bring on the hate😶

    • @TheAlphaOmegaX3
      @TheAlphaOmegaX3 5 років тому

      No hate brother! But CRTs are getting hard to find in good working condition even at thrift shops. Will be needing a way to play on current televisions at some point. I'm glad they are releasing consoles to help do just that. I use the ossc with my Genesis model 1 along with the rest of my original Hardware oh my 4K display. I still I have a Sony Trinitron for the N64 exclusively.

    • @MrMayfield310
      @MrMayfield310 5 років тому +1

      Classic Modern Gaming I agree with what your saying. But sound lag drives me up the walls on video games or movies. It’s a great system, just not for me. Even though I was contemplating buying one

    • @TheAlphaOmegaX3
      @TheAlphaOmegaX3 5 років тому

      @@MrMayfield310 I'll do a little research to see if anybody else is having some sound lag issues. Yes it would drive me nuts to.

    • @Madlittlepixel
      @Madlittlepixel  5 років тому +3

      @@TheAlphaOmegaX3 There is no sound lag, as I posted in my pinned comment, any sound sync issues in the video were due to processing/capture and are not there on either system when playing in real life.

    • @TheAlphaOmegaX3
      @TheAlphaOmegaX3 5 років тому

      @@Madlittlepixel Ah great! Totally missed that comment lol. Thanks for the clarification.

  • @packers12to80
    @packers12to80 5 років тому

    Wish they would bring a new NBA jam to the switch

  • @kuma1388
    @kuma1388 5 років тому +1

    Not worth the price difference.

    • @brnexus7475
      @brnexus7475 5 років тому

      To be fair MLP didn't show the full capabilities of the Mega Sg.

  • @hectorleon465
    @hectorleon465 9 місяців тому

    Comparing Analogue to Hyperkin console is like comparing a daimond to a slump of dirt.... Lol

  • @plasia
    @plasia 5 років тому

    Audio quality on the Hyperkin is atrocious

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 5 років тому +1

      Wouldn't go that far. It's not AtGames level. Still, leaves a bit to be desired.

    • @plasia
      @plasia 5 років тому

      @@misterkeeblerit's super obvious, either you have terrible audio equipment or you're less sensitive to this sort of quality (audio is subjective). I have both original hardware and calibrated mega sg