Analogue Mega Sg Review - Is the Sega GENESIS clone worth $190?!?
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- The Mega Sg is the latest FPGA based clone system based on the Sega Genesis / Mega Drive from Analogue. Is it worth the $190 price? And how does it stack up to a RetroN5 or original Sega Genesis with HDMI / RGB output?
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** DISCLAIMER: Analogue provided the Mega Sg for review, but I was not paid for this video and no one reviewed what I said. All the opinions are my own ** - Ігри
"showing composite is not fair"
Bro, I used to play it with RF back in the days, even composite look stunning.
Damn! I didn't even know anyone played RF back in the day, I figured composite was the standard. Here I am being angry composite was the standard in the U.S. learning across the pond they had component as the standard and I learn someone had it worse.
@@livingcorpse5664 I used RF too. In the early 90s, I am pretty sure the only connection our TV had was a male coaxial for an antenna, so only RF would work. Also, the gen 1 Genesis didn't have composite output without some weird cable that looks like a 5 pin DIN plug, but I literally never saw this cable until I bought one about two years ago; as a kid that port was just a mystery.
RF was mainly terrible because, without fail, the wire broke as soon as the module was taken out of the box. Even time I played, I had to wiggle the cord until I found the sweet spot that wasn't static, lol. We must have had at least five or six RF switches that were all broken.
I think its cool that people are trying to get these games to look as good as possible, but tbh i feel the same. Composite is fine and imo you get better dithering. I play composite on my crt but my master system, jaguar and turbo grafx 16 use RF. Im just happy playing the games.
@@riflemanm16a2 RF was the only gaming I knew back in the NES days. Never bothered me a bit, as it was all I knew at the time.
@@AdamsBrew78 Same here, I didn't know about composite until the N64. The fragility of the RF switches was really annoying though.
Seems like a solid unit. I only wish manufacturers would go "Type C" vs using micro still. It's very inexpensive to jump to a C vs micro.
Just a note: Scanlines look pretty bad at 1080p. 720p is an exact 3x upscale from the original system’s native 240p so if you want authentic looking scanlines, put the resolution at 720p 60fps.
I did not know that! Thanks :)
No worries, Jason! Great video, as always.
J Kemp thanks for the heads up!
Unfortunately, there’s a lot more to it than that. :(
True 720p displays are almost non-existent, so you are almost always going to get a non-integer scale regardless.
Next, you can do 5x (1200p) to get an integer scale at 1080p with only a little bit chopped off at the top and bottom (barely more than your typical CRT overscan back in the day). Unfortunately, most 1080p displays simulate a bit of overscan by default and will still break your integer scale. What’s even worse is that they often hide the relevant settings or do not have them at all! Even the ones that have a setting in the menu call it 10 different things. 1:1, full-pixel, JustScan, etc. Some make you jump through crazy hoops, like manually labeling a particular input “PC” will secretly disable simulated overscan.
It’s a mess, but it’s still far easier to get scanlines working right with 1080p and 5x mode, which is why it’s such a shame that Hi-Def NES doesn’t have 5x mode (Nt Mini does). :(
@@MetalJesusRocks yeah 720p is a scale of 240p. Same as super nt. I use hybrid scanlines in 720p
As a FPGA designer/programmer, I can help clarify that the reason you do emulation with a FPGA is to solve timing issues. Games programmed for older consoles (in this case the Motorola 68K) rely not on program timing techniques but expected processor execution times. So each frame of video, so many cycles would go to the game engine, some to the sound chip, some to the video frame buffer etc. When you emulate games on a PC, you are essentially serializing this entire process and trying to do it faster than a static screen refresh rate. Using a FPGA, you can design an entire 68K MCU and have it clocked at exactly 7.6 MHz. I recommend the GameHut channel for more information on how games were coded back in the day.
What do you think of this article? (it's very short and straight to the point!):
FPGAs Aren't Magic - archive.is/4Umsk
I noticed that some of the grainy effects are masked by the Composite cables, like the pipes in Sonic 2, the transparency in the pipes looks fairly convincing in Composite, but in the HD version, you can notice the spacing in between the pixels. In fact, the same thing kinda happens in your Earthworm Jim comparison between the Sg and the RGB cables, I guess those can be mitigated by the scanline options in the Analogue Sg, but I wouldn't say it's the be all, end all solution.
There is an interpolation option in the Mega Sg that mixes dithered transparencies like those so that they look as they should.
I don't get why most people use a Genesis model 2 for sound comparisons, the original model with the "High Definition Graphics" in white on the top of the circle has the best sound of any Genesis model.
i think he might have made a mistake. he has so much knowledge to know he probably missed it.
Depends on the version of model 2. The first revisions were decent. The later ones not so much.
exellent video especially the comparison with the Retron 5 I missed somewhere else , congratulations !!
There is something about the Sega Genesis that can never be duplicated. I bought my Sega Genesis when it was first released (and bundled with Altered Beast.) I call it: "The Sega Genesis smell." During gameplay, one could detect a subtle sweet smell of burning plastic. Once the player experienced that smell, one KNEW that one was playing with power...
haha! I didn't have a Genesis myself growing up (I went with the Turbografx and very happy that I did), but two of my best friends had one and now that you mention it, I kind of know what you're talking about with that smell. I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me, but I remember that smell with my Turbografx and even my NES.
Saturn or Dreamcast would be awesome to see made.
How many Sega Genesis clones do we really need? Saturn would be no brainer.
I love the enthusiasm for the Saturn, but you'd really want to kill this guy for trying. The Saturn is probably one of the most complex of systems to try and model. It's both exceptionally over-engineered and yet feels like a frankenstein system of components that all require tight timing and, to be honest, I'm not even sure all of the components have been completely reversed engineered. Doing the Saturn would make this look like child's play.
@@RichardHartness I agree. I just dont get why a new Sega clone seems to come out every few months. There's enough already.
Pixels ARE NOT PROBLEM, not need to be MORE BLUR "HD", must be SHARP.
Best are: RetroN 5 & Pound.
Quick, raise your hand if you don’t have access to the complete Genesis library and a means to play it already. Oh wait, we all do. There’s no market here. The 50-somethings interested in this device already have them provided from Analogue and their video “reviews” went live this morning.
Now for the sad part. When a device like this bombs, it’s used as an excuse to not make anything for the Saturn or Dreamcast. You keep seeing Sega licenses classic systems because that was their biggest hit. Sega won’t make a Saturn classic or Dreamcast classic because those systems were deemed failures. However, I would certainly be more interested in a Saturn or Dreamcast classic.
Great review, very informative and thorough. Thanks! Can't wait to get my Mega Sg, it's already in the mail...
Aaaaaand just like that, every gaming channel has a review for the Mega SG.
Russell Harrington yes, but none like John Hancock and Metal Jesus.
MLiG would like to have a word with you. :P
And? It's called sending out units for review
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Like most electronic product releases, there was a review embargo.
This is very, very cool. I've spent the last few years trying to find solutions to get my old consoles displaying properly on HD TVs but maybe I should have been focusing on Clone systems! Either way its great to see that these classic games and consoles are not being left behind by technology!
One day all our old hardware will die. The CRTs we use will die, too. When that happens will need an alternate to works with the digital displays we use now. I for one am glad that Analogue has provided that for the SNES and Mega Drive.
Form what I can tell the Mega SG provides a more authentic experience than even Sega’s own Mega Drive 2.
Analog should partner with SEGA to release a full-sized replica of either the Mark 1 or Mark 2 *GENESIS* with Analog's hardware on the inside. *I would buy that in a heartbeat.*
Forget all these "mini consoles" I want a full-sized re-release of the system with cartridge support!
No doubt some modder will take this device and make it work inside a full-size chassis. =D
great idea. Really besides cost the only downside is it will never look like an original
Personally, I like the way the composite output looks. Basically how it looked when I played the genesis as a kid. Though, I'd probably still play with HDMI.
Awesome review!!! I was waiting you review for a long time. I'm crazy about this console. And see what this console is capable is awesome!!!
Wow... great review! I think I'm sold.. Especially that it comes with that Master System adapter!!! Great work , man!
Propaganda...
thank you!! this was awesome!! answered all my question!!!!
Wow this really brings a new life to Genesis & MasterSystem games. Visual graphics & sound are all highly improved. Almost like a complete remastering. SO many games I can relive in an all new light. Definitely worth it.
Brother, that t-shirt rocks! (I haven’t started the review yet, but came to your channel first! You’re intelligent, eloquent, informative: you cover the details fans need, fun, and seem like a genuinely good person. Thanks for so many hours of education!
I want them to go turbo graphics 16
Same!!!!
You're in luck!
Great review. I just got mine yesterday & ultra core was not on the system. I upgraded it to the latest firmware 4.2 (i was on 4.1) & Ultra Core is now on the system. I hope this helps someone.
Mate! What a video! You did an unbelievable job showing the difference between options! Good job!
this is the content we come for. never change the drum muzak in the background man
Thanks so much for in depth review and comparisons. I've never bothered trying to play my old machines on new TVs as it's too costly, too many compromises and far easier just to use a PC with emulation and avoid 99% of known issues. However, this hardware based mega drive / genesis has me eventually being able to play my old carts on my modern TV and I can now collect stuff from foreign regions without usual horrid PAL hz slow-down here in OZ. THANK YOU!
Looks like im done shopping for a new genesis. This is perfect. Hdmi, master system, and sega cd support, and wireless controllers. Thanks for the upload metaljesus, very well done.
Great review! So do you prefer the Mega SG more than an original Genesis running on a CRT television? I’ve recently got my old Genesis set up again on a 13” CRT and it looks just how I remembered. Do you like the classic look, or prefer HD?
Mine ought to be here in a couple of days, so excited!
In addition to that, I have to say...having watched TONS of the review videos of the MegaSG, MJR, yours is easily the very best. MLIG's is THOROUGH and very detailed (42 minutes long as well), but yours with the direct comparisons to Composite, that crazy Pound Cable, and the Retron5, REALLY are just fantastic journalism, really useful and extremely well edited with the side by sides. The effort it had to take to get all the EWJ actions so exact on multiple playthroughs, just amazing. You're not just funny and real, you're an absolute pro at making videos.
Hoping the Pound cable comes through; I would love this if it works for 32X as an option since the MegaSg isn't going to do any 32X. Thank you for all that you do MJR!!!
I think that Analogue needs to go all in and create new Sega CD and 32X add-ons. Granted, that may be cost prohibitive for them, but, it would be a great step in the direction of preservation of the Sega experience.
I'm sure that they will have to create a 32X add-on, since the original 32X is incompatible with HDMI compliance, but ALL Sega CD add-ons, work for the Analogue Mega Sg. ...so will they remake the Sega CD add-on? ...no.
Was there anything worth playing on the 32X that didn't make it to another console?
I think they need 32x+CD addon to make this complete.
@@badreality2 If they're going that far, why not go all the way? Working Sega CDs aren't exactly easy to come by.
@@3rdalbum there are a few gems, some decent ports, some bad ports. It's a small, mixed bag
the issue with the 32X is that the unit had you running video bypass cables from the genesis to the 32x. You cant really do that now with HDMI. SEGA CD working is good enough for me.
Awesome video, dude! Love your channel. Keep it up, brother!
Curious if there is a way to have FM audio playback with the Master System library. Also not sure why you would never play these games in composite, that’s all we had back in the day, and some games were actually designed with these limitations in mind.
Analogue: The world desperately needs you to engineer a TurboGrafx-16 FPGA clone. Don't forget SuperGrafx!
This x1000!
Analogue PC-16😁
TurboGrafx/Pc Engine and Supergrafx are already done in FPGA on the MiSTer already. With Pc Engine/Turbo CD support soon to come. You should check out the MiSTer FPGA project.
@@mfdumile I will absolutely do that! Haven't heard of that one. Thanks!
Maybe we don’t need it as badly as you think. ;) Check out the UpperGrafx/UperGrafx UGX-02. It replicates the graphics hardware in FPGA exactly like the original Analogue Nt except this one is plug and play with the original consoles! That means perfect digital video over DVI/HDMI (no analog conversion). It’s also able to play CD and card games from SD card.
In short, we already have perfect digital video and all the benefit of an Analogue jailbreak in a plug and play device for TurboGrafx-16 and PC Engine. It works with original games too.
Love to play Spellcaster and kenseiden again on the master system
I found a copy of Spellcaster. It's such a fun game!
Awesome video, Metal Jesus! Good comparisons, so one can see what the differences are.
One last thing. Is that border art provided by the Analogue console itself to make up for the 4:3 aspect ratio, or is that something that you have added in editing?
Would have liked to see Virtua Racing, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Super Street Fighter 2 and a few others that have problems playing on clone systems tested.
watch one of the 50 reviews by everyone who got sent a copy for free to review.
Spoiler: they all work fine.
You didn't mention the farting noise it makes when you touch the power button.
(or was that a Game Sack exclusive DLC?)
it's amazing how muffled the audio is on a regular composite signal compared to this. I never would have known I wanted more clarity out of the audio had this not existed.
When you were doing the audio comparison did you take the audio from the back of the Genesis? I'm not 100% sure on the Model 2 but the Model 1 only output Mono from the back and you had to pull Stereo from the headphone jack on the front. Seems like the Analogue SG is doing direct stereo which will wind up sounding better, even if you'd been working with the Model 1's rear audio output...
Would love to see them tackle the N64. Also that pound cable vs the Mega Sg looked pretty darn good to me so both are pretty good competitors. The audio though, the Megs Sg sounded more brighter to me. But it did sound clearer.
I doubt that'll ever happen. Most N64 emulators use HLE, which makes them not suitable for FPGA's. Also, the N64 had that custom chip, emulation of which....varies.... So I don't think we'll see them ever do an N64 project - MAYBE if we see some new FPGA's hit the market? IDK, But not with what we currently have.
With Analogue's quality I'd absolutely love that too.
MetalJesusRocks Do you have a buying guide for the SEGA Genesis? If so, I can’t find it. If not, it would be awesome if you made one!
Nice to see Jim get some footage never gets enough love
That's a good cartridge to use for comparison footage because it has those demo levels that run when you turn it on, so everything matches across systems and the audio/music is so iconic.
FPGA is still emulation. Byuu wrote a little screed about it, since he actually collaborated with Analogue on the Super NT only to find out their marketing campaign was basically just making things up like "no emulation". It's just that it's emulation without an OS in the way, hence no input lag. FPGA emulation is no more or less inherently accurate than cycle-accurate software emulators like Higan.
Having said that, Analogue's products are awesome, if slightly overpriced and with exorbitant $40 shipping costs.
Yeah, people seem to confuse different clone systems. Like they'll call on a chip clones emulation when they're not. Those are closer to IBM PC clones back in the day, compatible hardware but it's not emulating.
Wow, that Mega SG looks pretty amazing to be fair but i cant help feeling a little bit sad that there'll be no going back to original hardware once you get used to that crystal clear sound and picture.
I think that comparing the audio to the original Model 1 would be a more apt comparison between the two.
Thanx for showing this stuff. I like how you rewiev the systems and games.
8:22 ... and I like the picture quality of the composite output. Real retro, as it used to be on CRT monitors. All this beautiful image quality only reveals the pixelation and angularity of the characters. Composite blurs it out.
Best review of this system so far. Thanks dude!
I think the MSRP of Sega Genesis was $189.99 when it was first released.
I'd love to see anlogue tackle the neo geo brand and make an all in one neo geo console that plays all the neo geo formats, platforms and accessories.
Great video! Please keep up the hard work!
You game sack and MVG all released the same review on the same day. I liked how you and MVG both used the intro to bloodlines
So did Colin aka This Does Not Compute
@Chris Taber they sent them the unit, I doubt they are paid
N64!, Now that would be a day one purchase! Great video mj
Yeah buddy. That or an Analogue Atari 2600.
PSone is fine too
Be good if it came with a wireless controller similar to the old hori or do a deal with the brawler controller
that's what I'm waiting for. Otherwise, I'm buying an UltraHD modded N64 eventually
themcfaceman Do it... same price as Analogue’s console and no worries about accuracy.
Great Review! What was the wireless Control Pads like? Worth it?
Do you plan on upgrading to RGB via SCART, or at least HDRetrovision cables? I am guessing the HDMI upscaler of the RGB signal was the culprit of the not-as-good-video of the original hardware. OSSC is a pretty affordable option to the framemeister and even looks great on my old 720p flat panel.
Your review, My Life In Gamings review , Rerez review of Mega SG are the best
Does the power base convertor work with it?
it blocks the hdmi port
Yes, but you can't use the original one that was made for the Genesis Model 1, as it doesn't fit. Doesn't matter though, as the Mega SG comes with its own Power Base Converter in the box.
Awesome review Jason!
I'm excited but I do wish the mastersystem adapter was black to match the system. How does the clear plastic feel is it kinda cheap or solid and sturdy?
Its awesome to see a system like this, especially as emulation is threatened now. The quality of this seems so great and its legit since its a recreation of the hardware. I would like to see all the old Nintendo systems recreated from this company much love
After that Sonic 2 demo I'm sold!
Keep in mind the model 2 genesis had the worst sound chip of all the models, he was also showing it using composite, the worst fidelity cables. A model 1 genesis/mega drive on a crt is the best way to play.
Mine is in the mail as we speak! I cant wait to start playing my genesis games on it! Would live to see a turbo grafix 16 version from them
ha
Great video...UNTIL 14:10! Didn't you have access to the jp\pal version?
Better than AT games :v
Mega SG is amazing. I need one.
AT games would advertise the system as containing arcade ROMs, but then when you buy it it's just genesis ROMs.
HuezinXD get the super retro trio
@@rebelfriend5172 Eww, why? They stole open source emulator code.
I want it so i can have a spare to use. My current Sega Genesis works fine, but it'd be nice to have a spare.
Ive got the Mega Retron it works good enough, its a cheaper price too.
Personally I prefer the pound image, it is less pixelated
Did you test the Mega SG with the 4 player multitap + krikzz mega everdrive? I could not get Gauntlet IV or Mega Bomberman to work in 4 player mode using either model MK-1647 or MK-1647-44 multitap. Analogue claim full support for the multitap.
Oh sweet! Skeleton Krew! Loved that game on the MegaDrive. Both that one and The Haunting Starring Polterguy are my favs. :)
Nice to see robocop vs the terminator getting some love
Cool game back in the day... think I still have my copy of it..
Great comparison video, but I'll take composite video output on a good CRT TV over HDMI on any HDTV. Composite looks much better than shown in this video on CRT.
What do you do to clean/take care of your consoles, and do you have any hardware issues with any consoles that you own?
I purchased a mega sg this holiday season based on your review. Purchased butt loads of classic genesis games i grew up on for my son and I to play together. Thanks metal Jesus!
I already got the Super NT.
I wish they would make a N64.
Not currently feasable
I emailed them this about an n64and they just said any news will be released on our page 🤨
@@steveothehulk kevgris already stated there doesn't exist an FPGA big enough. The max currently is psone
n64 doesnt hold up well today homie... Saturn on the other hand... :O
Why not just buy an N64 (about $40 on eBay) and get it modded with Ultra HDMI ? Then you’ve got actual hardware rather than emulation for a similar price to Analogue’s consoles.
Great video! The Pound cable is pretty nice, though obviously better off with the Mega SG (if you can afford it).
I'd say the Pound cable is the best of the bunch. Not staring at blocky hard edges is the best way to play these older games. The others are more accurate to the original content, but the Pound cable wins it imo for the experience.
There's no way these old games will actually look good at higher resolution - letting the conversions blur the image up a bit helps the hard aliasing. Same issue I had with the UltraHLE emulator when it came out - too many jaggies for N64 games. The experience was better on a scanline CRT.
@@masejoer I can see your point, but I personally appreciate the crisp pixels on sprites on 2D games. 3D is a different story, like you said N64 (for example) needs some help masking things.
Great review dude. Mine’s arriving in a London at noon Wednesday
I can't wait for my Mega SG! I should be seeing it on Thursday!
Fit a 3.5mm headphone jack, but not a hardwired volume control slider/knob? (facepalm)!
@Steve Fox consumer headsets yes, but not on pro studio headsets or older headsets. You'd need a mixer to get the volume control.
WOOOOW this is next level of retro gaming :)
Agreed!
Great review!! thank you for doing this literally just order one of these bad boys. Would be dope to see an Analogue N64 Next!!!
Analogue N64 would be next level!
The best Mega Sg test i've seen on YT! GG
Great video hopefully they can release an adapter for 32x in the future and ideally there own CD Drive!
I think it is only worth it if you have a mega CD to play it in hd.
The rest of it is not really a seller for me at that price.
This is one of three review videos that showed up on my homepage on UA-cam...hmm...lol
I got 6 all at 11am you're slacking yo.
:P @@ninjamaster3453
What's your point? There's nothing shady going on.
Thank You for making this video. It's very informative! 🤘🤙👍
Great overview!!! :D
Bought one of these for my game room and gave two away on stream. It’s a nice machine to have.
Hey metal J. What game had the most impact on your life?
Definitely H.E.R.O. would be on that list! LOL
Thank you for the info. Hope that 32x adapter will be available.... The orignal does not work?
On the sound tests: the Mega SG sounds like there isn't as much stereo separation compared to the Model 2. I noticed some settings in the menus for stereo separation so maybe it could be adjusted?
I enjoyed the review, but don't particularly agree about your opinion of fpga based hardware. Analogue's products are so great because they have a programmer/engineer in Kevin Horton that is extremely knowledgeable and talented, not because they're running on fpga hardware.
Software emulation can also be extremely high quality and just like how fpga offers advantages over emulation such as a live cartridge bus to directly interact with carts, software emulation offers its own set of advantages such as native save state support. And just like how software emulation can be poor or a system-on-a-chip design on a single integrated circuit can stink, a fpga can have the software implemented on its reprogrammable integrated circuit be poorly realized.
We could easily be here today complaining that these ~$200 systems from Analogue are full of flaws, had they recruited a less talented individual to design them. Kevtris himself is the game changer here, not the hardware under the hood.
Someone always says this when mentioning FPGA stuff, and while core quality is dependent on the programmer, I still think FPGA based stuff still has the potential to be superior to software emulation. The MiSTer project gets better and better all the time for instance, and there is no reason other people as talented as Kevtris won't step up to program these cores. Software emulation can be good too, but requires alot of horsepower to be as accurate as FPGA (potentially). Just my opinion, not trying to argue.
*Still got my G1 Genesis...maybe its time to attempt some Eternal Champions Fatalities!*
Hey MJ, Was the any input lag playing on the hi-def TV’s? Thx
Fine, you talked me into it..just ordered =D Thanks for the review, definitely helped me in making my choice in the end.
Sega genesis model II had a poorer quality audio chip then the early early model 1's
I figured that was the case. I had an original Genesis and was wondering if sound was a concession they made for a cheaper price point. I wonder if it's the same for the CDX
MJR should have used a Model 1 in the comparison imo
But the Model 1's stereo audio comes out the front which is a pita.
The early model 2 Genesis had bad audio, but there are later va3 and va4 models with audio that is close to or on par with the early model 1's.
Has to be Turbografx next
nah m8 , n64
@@AcousticNRG the N64 can wait, let the PC-Engine/TurboGrafx 16 have a chance.
What’s the benefits of turbografx compared to this
I have a Japanese version of Streets of Rage 3, while the game plays perfectly on my PAL Megadrive the music is slower, I assume the Mega SG would play the music at full speed? I also have the US version of Contra: HARD CORPS which only works on my PAL system via a Game Genie. I assumed this would work on the SG as well?
Sorry I had to watch this in 2x playback speed today. I appreciate your work on this channel!
These clones are cool but, for me a huge part of the enjoyment is the original hardware.
It was pretty cool attaching a real Sega CD to the Analogue and just having it work with glorious 1080p output!
@@MetalJesusRocks that is pretty awesome to be fair! No messing about with up scalers and all that stuff!
what?? other channels also have uploaded their videos on this same topic at the same time...
I noticed that too. Oh well, they're all covering various different details, so, i'm good with it.
Greeneyez2475 - What didn't you like about my video? I'm always looking for constructive feedback.
@@MetalJesusRocks Wondered that myself.
How much do you get PAID to do these advertisements and why isn't the fact this is a paid advertisement disclosed? Maybe the paid youtube reviewers need to be reported to the federal trade commision?
Nicholas Molitor - I was sent the review unit, but NOT paid for the production of the video and nobody reviewed what I said in the video. All the comments about the console were my own. There is no affiliate agreement either. Just a regular review. There is a disclaimer in the video description.
Great review of the console, but I was hoping for more information about the 8bitdo controller and how it pairs with it. I know a lot of people initially had connectivity issues. I believe they've since added an update to resolve that, but with their SNES controllers having dpad issues and such, I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on it. Especially in comparison to the Retrobit controllers you just reviewed.
Fantastic overview! I want one