Juggz the Podcast Episode 6: Is Lore just made up?
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Join Louise from @roguehobbies Peachy from @PeachyTips and Rob from @TheHonestWargamer every week to discuss the hottest "wargaming" news, the wierdest minis and the coolest paint jobs.
This week we are joined by / @oculusimperia
#warhammer
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Guys this was so much fun
Love the channel! More Badab please.
Been a fan since you were still name dropping Buttstuff Kaiju at the end of your videos
Mate you’re the best lore channel without a doubt. So great to hear more about the man behind the magic. Thanks for all ya do x
What a day it must've been, just walking down the street and you get invited to come on Juggz
It says a lot about this group that Rob, of all people, is the one bringing the conversation back to some semblance of coherency.
The bra, that keeps them together.
I commented on Suggs pro acryl video saying i couldn't get them in China. Monument hobbies replied to my message and put me in touch with a shop in Hong Kong that stocks them and I managed to pick up their last box.
Wow, that is impressive! Great to hear of a company doing the right thing for its customers.
Fuck yeah
I am always amazed at Monument Hobbies efforts on behalf of their customers. Great example to others.
Yea I was very surprised and pleased with them. I've had one bottle of pro acryl white for awhile that I got outside of China that I have been making last. Now I finally have a supplier.
Is it weird that I think of Peachy Tips, Rogue Hobbies and the Honest Wargamer as 'The Juggz Cinematic Universe'?
Juggz is so massive that it's gravity is pulling everyone together
I identify with this
Juggz: the worlds best podcast
It also has so many tie-ins and crossovers.
Rob and Val have Squarebased. And Val held a WHFB 8th ed tourney .... in MiniWargamings studio.
Where Doctor Luke "Linehammer" Blaxley went.
Now we just need to tie in a few more painters. Get Squidmar in here!
JCU ❤
Suggz, you don't talk too much, you're having fun. That kind of energy is good for the vibes round the table.
🥹 I do talk quite a lot but only because I'm happy and excited
Suggs telling Rob hes not allowed to discuss Rangers of the bloodstone is a clear example of how difficult it is for men in this space
It was another really hard week for the men in the hobby
Insider knowledge on riders.
The reason for the famous 'diva' demands on them is not (in most cases at least) because they have some weird desire for that item, it's a way of checking how well the venue has taken care of things.
A rider doesn't just cover things you want in your dressing room, it also covers all your equipment needs and required setup. If the artist then arrives at their dressing room and the weird, obscure demand is taken care of (say a 500ml bowl full of only yellow M&Ms) they can then relax because they can be pretty sure everything has been taken care of.
If the obscure item isn't there, it's an early warning to check everything else. Have your guitar amps been put on the correct sides of the stage? Has the drum kit been set up in the correct orientation? Are the monitors routed correctly to give each member the sound mix they need? Have the lights been correctly programmed?
It was cool seeing Cooler Leutin on Juggz.
I am 100% going to start using that
Love this podcast. Peachy: "and the games don't last as long, so I get more games in" Perfectly said, can't wait for Robs "you're playing wargames wrong" video!
Juggz Certified List of Weird Little Freaks: Miniature Wargamers in General, 15th Century Monks, Legendary Artist Frank Frazetta, Train People
I want a "Thank you for comming on our Juggz" t-shirt. I mean, I won;t be able to wear it anywhere and my wife will demand an explanation. But still...
They should give them out to people who appear on the show.
Young, Dumb and full of coming on my juggz
One of the things I really like about this podcast is that even though you've all been in 'the hobby' for a very long time, there's clearly whole aspects of it beyond GW that you're not massively familiar with, and you're not afraid to admit it.
It's cool to see folks like yourselves genuinely getting excited about things you've 'discovered' as opposed to pushing sponsored content.
Also: Bloodbowl - Taylor Swift Vs Travis Kelce.
Bless Peachy for giving a shout out to Jordan Sorcery.
"Its a dumb thing but its fun, its an exciting dumb thing" This also describes all of Warhammer. That is what I love the most about Warhammer. The model that got me into the hobby was the Defiler. Giant scuttling crab tank thing. So dumb, so fun.
I always wanted to use the defiler body and cannon as the turret for a leman russ or something...
This podcast is so damn fun. It's got "painting an army together at 4am the day before a tournament" vibes.
Louise’s “Charisma Uniqueness Nerve Talent” scale is wildly funny to me.
certainly 20/25/15/22 in D&D terms 🙂
This comment suddenly struck me with the idea that everyone should be able to make a D&D character with whatever stats they want but for any stat of a 15 plus the player has to justify to the group (ie, winning a feat of strength (str), freestyle walking challenge (dex), convincing the group of something completely fantastic that may or may not be true (char))... So much better than rolling 3D6!
Y’all are sweet. I’m just over here giggling at the acronym, like an imbecile.
Guys it's from Ru Paul's Drag Race
Is the acronym deliberate?
Just to confirm for Louise; as an Australian we do love a good Tim Tam Slam
With Double Coat Tim Tams! ❤
I knew I wasn't going crazy
@@roguehobbies Hard agree, Australian and I love tim tam slams, tea or coffee doesn't matter.
This is the coming together that we all deserve. Oculus and Juggz!
This is such a great cast. I love how it appears to be robs job to keep you all on track with your scittish brains! 🤣🤣
Robert G Symes (address: Electrical Substation 69, Warhammer World (basement), Lenton, Nottingham NT99 FU55) is spot on about playing a fun game with a sane person. However, a lot of nerds are passionate, maybe be neurodivergent and quite literal. I want to play by an agreed set of rules or at least talk before hand if we're going to do things because I think some structure is part of the game, and try to make any FAQ type negotiations on unclear things (usually common sense) before hand rather than suffer from 'gotchas'
Hunter S Thomson vs Frankie Boyle on LSD
A Choadwaddle and Grundelstank novel - from Warhammer Crime
Bar none Oculus is my favorite lore person, what a delight to have him!!!
I’m loving this podcast, it’s like lockdown with more swearing and better production values and I’m here for it
Just loving how much fun it looks like your having together. And how genuinely excited you are to work together on things. Glad to see all this positivity in one place.
When I heard the Occulus Imperia voice on Juggz without any warning I sat up like a dog whose owner just said "Walkies". Total geek out moment.
Great guest! I’d love to see Arbitorian and/or Mira Manga for future episodes!
Meta Watch is now "Keeping up with the Kardashians" as they collect the top competitive armies and sell "must have" accessories.
I most admire Rob when he talks about his eternal love for Episode I: The Phantom Menace.
So when Metallica played my town, they played Warhammer fantasy in the back before the concert to get in the metal mood.
A lot of Warhammer nerds are also wrestling nerds- spoken as a former GW store manager and Independent
"Lubers". Really like that. You lube them up really good, so they more readily receive the new minis that are comin up 👍
Oculus is the best 40k lore channel by a WALK. So fun to watch this.
You’re my favourite Juggaloz
Some obscure lore I learned from a Eons of Battle video last year is that Boss Nass is actually a different species to the rest of the Gungans!
Seems like Louise’s energy level is back up to 11!
You could create a Hobby masterclass course. Playing, Building, Painting and Lore classes 😅
the best part is that Dolly Parton did star in a movie called 9 to 5 where she works in an office
Was about to say
Oh my god...
This is the best podcast on the internet. Y'all are so entertaining and I genuinely look forward to every episode.
Funny that Oculus raised 'Psylocke and the English Woman in an Asian body' bit in the video, I remember that happening back at the time as I was a huge Comic book fan in the 90s, but I only just found out this week they separated the two of them again in 2018... Betsy now has her own body and is Captain Britain apparently, and Kwannon has her body back and has remained as Psylocke in the X-Men.
Another amazing video.
Juggz: Deep Dives, Book Reviews, Event Analysis, Shit-talking and Trade Secrets.
Juggz: DD B.R.E.A.S.T.S
Now that’s impressive!!!
Was hurting for my weekly fix of Juggz and this was the best yet. Who could have known that combining Juggz and Lube would feel so good?!
This has been the best episode yet, I love listening to four mad wizards ramble.
I definitely do think lore "matters" in that lore is what many of us engaged with for the first time to really care about the universe otherwise people would more than likely be more apt to jump to other systems with those same models. People do get hung up on lore, especially when it doesn't matter so much on the table (and thematically most armies don't match up to the lore imo). I could stop playing the tabletop today and I'd still engage with the 40k novels and stuff because I love that world and the characters. Dawn of War and the Blood Ravens got me into 40k back with 5th edition not the models or the rules.
Some of it reminds me of when someone tells me, "I am a fan of Captain America" and then at some point in the conversation the equivalent of, "I don't care who Captain America" happens and it has me wonder what they are actually a fan of, exactly? "I love Magneto"... OK, great..."I don't think Magneto needs to look like, act like, or do any of the things Magneto does in the comics"...ok, great...so, what are you a fan of, again?
Love you guys, I get it's the vibe of pals all chatting and enjoying the hobby but this was a whirlwind of anxiety with talking over each other and tangents. Thanks to Rob for steering things.
I love this podcast and everyone on it, but hearing Suggs learn about both touching cloth and riders sounding like she's eaten way too much sugar is an experience i will not forget. Never change.
I listened to this while I ate dinner, then went to the hobby desk, subscribed to @oculusimperia, and listened to him while painting a Phobos Lieutenant 🖤
I had to finish this episode before starting the new one, and I just want to say that Steve Jobs vs. Hunter S. Thompson (both specifically on LSD) is now my answer to ANY vs. question ever posed to me ever again.
I hobbied for over 2 hours straight listening to this. JUGGZ has cured my attention deficit issues. 🥳
No idea if anyone's even gonna see this, but to answer Peachy's question why Boss Nass looks different from the other Gungans: Canonically (got carried over from Legends iirc) there are two different subspecies of Gungans, the more numerous Otolla Gungans like Jar Jar and most of the others and the Ankura Gungans like Boss Nass. They've lived separated for the longest time but eventually joined up when Otoh Gunga was founded, bringing all Gungans together and far less numerous, the founder of Otoh Gunga was an Ankura Gungan and they've maintained a presence in the council ever since.
He actually has ears like all the other Gungans too, they are just tied behind his head.
In reality it was probably decided during production that the leader of the Gungans should be a chonky toad guy for some reason and then someone made up the lore to explain it afterwards. 😂
Aha! Awesome…..ooooh and for the record we saw it and thank you for sharing 😘
New Juggz T-Shirts: „You get kittens…?“ and „Just be kind“ and „I could have been a dickhead… dammit! I missed the opportunity“
Juggz continues its unhinged death march to prove that not only has god abandoned, and we didn't need him in the first place.
The M&M's rider thing is really clever. The band asked for a bowl of only blue M&M's, and if they turned up and didn't see it, they knew the venue or the promoter hadn't bothered to read their rider or their tech specs, so they knew they were going to have a rough time there.
I did not expect Rob to praise the sexy manliness of Prince of Thieves this episode, but I’m here for it.
The Oculus X-Men lore is such a great deep cut. +1 for a spin-off X-Men lore channel. Summers family tree gives about 6 hours worth of content alone.
Love that you managed to get the Dawnstir shout-out in their Rob
Great seeing Luetin!!
Four people is good / nice equal balance : 50% Suggs/ 50% everyone else
I love these pod casts, i use them all the time whilst i do my hobby (warhammer AoS) and they are GREAT! please do more :-)
My fave occulus ep: the men of gold and iron. I have listened to it multiple times.
The best lad! Been absolutely glued to his content ever since I found it like 2-3 years ago-ish.
Shocked this isn't called Lubed Up Our Juggz to be honest
OMG, thanks for the Charadon Granite remark! That color was so unique, I'd give some pretty decent kidneys to get it again.
Ah Rob running into the brick wall of everyone thinking it's fine to say "have fun" in a rulebook. "Maybe I AM a grognard?"
Maybe you need to turn this into a 5 hour long podcast, because I would absolutely listen to everyone explaining in detail exactly what Frostgrave warband they are planning to play and why.
I did not expect jumping from M&M's in band riders to Hannah Arendt. Such a great alchemy and fascinating hosts. I just love it.
I’m laughing out loud at Steven hawking vs genghis khan whilst at work at 3am 😂😂
Damn it! I'm supposed to be working, but yet again, I've found myself watching Juggz on the internet!
Oculus shouting out Snipe and Wib? Peak humanity, lovely fella.
Never before have I laughed this much while watching a Warhammer-related video.
I have missed my weekly immersion in your juggz.
I am always surprised how young he looks, the character sounds so weary
Rob is having to be extra patient and to do some serious Juggz-Wrangling in this episode - and I‘ve not even got to Louise in the „What have you been doing this week?“ intro segment.
Warhammer matchup - Kurt Russell vs. Roddy Piper or Arnold Schwarzenneger vs. Carl Weathers.
As someone who doesn't gatekeep but has been tempted by those thoughts in the past, I think both theories are part of it. With niche interests, especially ones that thrived with people who felt a little outcast from the norm, there's definitely a sense that things like Warhammer were things where you could do the hobby and be with other people who were like you.
What we're seeing now is similar to a lot of people getting upset about video games becoming popular around the time of Halo. There was commentary back then about people being upset that jocks and popular people were getting into games. Peachy's anecdote about historical wargamers turning up their noses at Warhammer is definitely the same vibe.
I think it's a good thing that more and more of these hobbies are considered socially acceptable, like video games are now. However I think as part of that, we (as humans) need to be accepting of the more neurodiverse people within the hobby and the people who are might be more socially awkward or strange as part of that - as long as those people aren't bad actors or intentionally asshats.
Ultimately the issue is really in human tribalism on both sides, which is something unfortunately unlikely to go away anytime soon.
Loved the new episode! Great to see you talking about nonGW games too! Love me some Silver Bayonet and Frostgrave… 👍
Clearly the correct celebrity answer for the Horus Heresy are Julius Caesar and Brutus.
You guys should really get in touch with Joe McCullough to get him on the Podcast. He has done interviews before and is a great Hobby chat.
Best thing on UA-cam, can't get enough Juggz.
I love watching Juggz
based Tzeentch also has the best color scheme out of the 4.
Genghis Khan versus Stephen Hawkin! Never laughed so much in my life. I was crying. Peachy does it again.
Favorite podcast by several miles. 🤘🏻
All I want for Christmas is a muppet edition of a Juggs episode (any will do)
Love all the Star Wars talk in this episode 😍😍 more of that please!!
Steven Hawkins is a celebrity as he did a cameo on Star Trek the next Generation
Rob, as a joke you should just edit yourself out of a podcast to show how truly mad the conversation would seem without you grounding everything! haha you are the glue!
Hahaha. Imagine!
So looking forward to to Rob‘s 9-hour „Why you are wargaming wrong?!“ video-thesis.
I second this, they basically made the thumbnails for him already.
Yassss the Occulus! ❤
I don't know what a Tim Tam is, but I understand being uncouth when eating biscuits.
My partner works for a bespoke home furnishings and decorating company who deck out rich peoples homes - they did Jason Statham's house in London and apparently he's actually really nice. I ain't shilling here, just thought you'd appreciate it.
Tim Tam Slam! Australia represent!
I´m listening to this while painting my Untamed Beasts so now i had to give their nips some extra attention lol
Damn straight, give that brush a good lick too
Also, just to mansplane for a bit, a rider is so called because when your medieval monarch was traveling from one end of the country to the other, each night you would send a rider ahead to a local Lord to let them know the boss was coming to stay the night and that rider would have a list of instructions for what food to prepare, where the monarch would sleep and how many stables they would need.
It is always a joy to listen to you good folk!
Peachy clearly wanting to throw hands with Pete 😉
Okay my list for the matchups :
LOTR :
Geogre RR Martin vs Brandon sanderson
Horus heresy :
Elon musk vs Mark zuccerburg how could you miss that drama 🎭? 😂
AOS :
Ed sheeran vs Beyonce
Warhammer 40k
Calliope mori vs Usada pekora
With a suprise twist episode of old rogue trader with
WWE’s Asuka vs The Rock 🪨
With Rick Priestly coming back to be the GM
Peachy those Frostgrave warbands look sick! Also love this podcast! Juggz for life!
Thank you for the mention of Alan he will be missed.
Can we please start a petition for the Primarch Royal Rumble? 😆 I need to see Magnus the Red with a steel chair whaling on Leman Russ and Sanguinius chokeslamming Horus through the nearest folding table 😂
See now we need Peachy and Rob to appear with much Flick !
Great show as always. Cheers team. You're the best Juggz on the internet.
I’m so here for the psylock deep dive.
In case you aren't aware, total war warhammer has quite a few cameos of youtubers, modders and other prominent community members; ones I can list of my head are venris (sfo lead modder), indypride of milkandcookiesTW, Henry cavil, Loremaster of Sotek, Turin and a host of CA staff too. Although keep in mine they don't use there youtube/real names and try to make them sound like they belong in the old world setting (finally a use for the weird knowledge I've amassed over 8000+ hours of time I've sunk into that trilogy).
Great podcast guys. Just to chip in to the celebrity wargaming bit: Hollywood legend Cary Grant was a big fan of LSD and advocated for its therapeutic use, so Hunter S Thompson vs. Cary Grant for your LSD feuled AOS match, and Vin Diesel is into WH40K, he runs Blood Angels, so yeah "BOLTERS"!