+Babby Babbyson you ok mobile VR is the shittest thing ever everyone here is talking about PC VR not mobile think about it non mobile VR has screens in each lens mobile VR has a shit phone strapped to a $2 cardbard or plastic box with a rope attached to your face
I'm less concerned with the flexibility and foldability of the display. What interests me more is the paper thin nature of it. I'd love to have a large TV on my wall that is essentially just wallpaper.
I love how you reply to this as though I'm some kind of moron for not caring if the display is flexible. Explain why the flexibility or lack there-of is of paramount concern if I want a paper thin television on my wall. Yes, I think flexible displays are neat but my focus wasn't on the enjoyment of a screen that I can roll up. I'm sorry if you think this is stupid.
+Native Texan, Pakoo Pay misunderstood your comment. He thought you wanted a rigid, thin display - when what you expressed interest in was the fact that these flexible displays are also very thin, and could be useful to you in that way. His thought process was that "dumbass wants a super rigid, super thin TV - that thing is gonna shatter like glass" - this would be a problem with a very rigid object with a thickness of only a millimetre. However, it's clear that if it had to be flexible, you wouldn't care - you just want something thin. Which seems doable, given the content of this video.
I don't qualify that as a misunderstanding. I said I have less concern about it's flexibility than I do about it's dimensions. Less does not mean none. He automatically assumed that because I wan't fully interested in the fact that I can roll it up, I MUST want a rigid pane of glass. Having less of an interest in a quality of something doesn't mean that I want it to be opposite of that quality. Example, I recently make chicken for dinner. I had more interest in making sure the fat and gristle were removed and less interest in how juicy it came out. By his logic, that means I want a piece of chicken that is a dry brick of chicken charcoal when done cooking. See how ridiculous that sounds? He didn't misunderstand, he assumed the opposite.
Uses for the technology Magazines Newspapers Wallpaper Folding phone Mounting a TV Smartwatches Packaging Labels Clothing Replace projectors Portability
+Some Guy That sounds amazing. Come to think of it, that's going to cause some problems on the OS side. Thing's like making a window fullscreen are going to make it FULLSCREEN. Most of the time you're not going to want that so the OS's are going to have to come up with a solution.
Perhaps flexible displays are the one piece of technology that companies want to perfect before throwing them out into the wild? Think about it, they're taking a big bet with flexible displays.
Consumer education is going to be important as well. Otherwise we'll have a rash of people creasing their "foldable" displays, only to crack and ruin them.
I think it is more about patents and usability. The big companies are having battles over flexible display tech. The other side is the usability. Although it is very cool such a flexible screen, what is it actually going to be used for vs durability? Curved screens already flooded the market and for the home usage there is no need for more curves. Phone screens tried curves as well, but did really catch on, plus why would it? Phones and tabs (etc) need regidity to function good and to offer durability. Flexible motherboards, chips etc are not there yet ;) So what is the usage of a flexible screen then? Other then the "ooh cool" factor and perhaps commercial display setups? To me personally the flexible display market will mostly be for production advantages once the tech has been refined and production processes optimized. As i said before, current display tech already allows for curving.
I definitely want smart wallpaper that will act as a wall sized window to the outside world(and very large TV of course). You see out but everyone on the other side sees nothing but the brick and mortar.
That's a great idea. Better yet, why not make it double sided and put it in a regular window. Then you can choose what you see, and what people on the other side see. Make ad revenue on the side of your house. XD
i just think it would be cool to have your walls covered with it . than you will be able to "renovate" each month by changing the colors of your walls/
Eyalחןעצוןי5עוגנט Ben Ari good idea I have been thinking the same thing for a while now but believe that using a colour e-ink display would work better due to the fact they are already available-ish, are cheaper, don't emit light so it would be more like real wallpaper and don't use energy except when changing the display. The main downfall of e-ink is the lower resolution and frame rate but for wallpaper I don't see that being an issue. Yea I have thought this through way to much!
I agree. It would be perfect for simulators, Flight / Space games.. anything. I note the edges of some of the screens are transparent, so I wondered if you could overlay them edge to edge to end up with an infinite screen or complete circle.
idk, lets just use an FPS game for example, your running around heading to a checkpoint or something and instead of making your character turn around to see what is behind you and in-turn open up an opportunity for someone to shoot you, you could turn your head but remain running forward. now the survival game "rust" sort'a made it so you could do this. you can hold alt and move the mouse left or right to see behind you whilst you remain in a forward running direction and the FPS battlefield 4 and 1 allow you to do the same whilst flying. i never use this myself but if you could have a full 360 degree setup and allow someone to turn their head to see behind them, i think that would be absolutely insane. i would definitely use that. just a thought anyway.
Just to clarify, ARMA did that alt-look thing first, that got popularized by the DayZ mod, which started the survival genre... one of its spinoffs is Rust. ;) So Rust didnt invent it.
in a multiplayer game that would make it unfair that one player has a 360 view while others do not also thats a SHIT ton of processing power to be able to render everything around you instead of just the 100 degree or so fov. also Petr is right arma started the whole running while looking around thing.
Foldable displays can make interactive globes! Imagine having a globe that can be changed to suit any geographical or geopolitcal visualization! It would be an excellent teaching tool!
It would be perfect for my home built flight simulator. Wrap around screen would eliminate all the problems associated with setting up front, left and right views from the cockpit seat. Currently need to use three to six large lcds all running from synced computers with each screen showing a different view. Another approach currently used is to build a curved screen and use two or three projectors.... of course then needing to use warp software. The problem there is keeping the projections from jerking when the simulator is moving during flight aerobatics. A curved tv screen or two would be fixed to the body of the simulator thus eliminating multiple flat screens or projectors.
@Lurch7861 Ha ha. That was three years ago. Come a long way since then. Have built three axis motion sim - with a dual seat/dual control cockpit with three 55 inch 4K screen for front, left and right, plus three more for instrument panels. Not quite the cost of an actual plane but fairly pricy with high end computer to run everything. But of course I can go anywhere in the world with MSFS and I can’t get killed doing risky stuff.
a great use case is the head mounted display monitor ... not vr head set but similar.. for work... with you motion and movement around you can virtually switch to another monitor... vr headsets are not good for long time work and for people travelling or for any reason cant carry monitors , that was just an example there are many other use cases such as land surveyors
why would you do this? vr is much better.,.. if they can make it smaller and more affortible then it is really nice... i dont have my own but a frined had it... its great
Not only would it be great to get peripheral vision in non-VR games, but I really want to see a foldable, GPS map. Something to fit in a pocket rather than mounted. Flexible displays don't mean that they can be creased, though, so that would probably come a bit later. Rolling it up would work, though.
We're still waiting but manufacturers are trying to still create glass displays. As a result what's been released is mostly a gimmick - foldable phones and laptops etc but it has a big crease down the middle and has a limited life cycle because they keep trying to make it with a glass display. Until they ditch the glass we'll still have heavy, solid devices.
When it comes to that kind of tech, I want a mansion where all the walls and ceilings are like obviously real strong normal walls, but the outside has like a ton of protected cameras and the inside is all seamless and flexible screens that I can turn on and off to make it seem like I’m sitting in a room without walls or ceilings. I could see the active feed of what’s going on outside.
If at all possible, someone could develop flexible ram, processors, SD cards, and other assorted parts to possibly make a completely flexible smartphone.
maybe not. maybe the screen only showing the image. the machine like something that you can put in ur pocket and sending the data via bluetooth or other wireless connections. perhaps with the power too. just maybe loool
I like the idea of using them in augmented reality. If you were able to make the screen fully transparent but still display stuff on certain sections, you could cover a pair of glasses with them, like the guy in the video. That would absolutely amazing. VR would also be an awesome application because you could reduce a massive amount of the bulk in a VR headset, due to the fact that the screen is so light and flexible, only requiring the accelerometers and motion tracking, which is already pretty small.
FOLED or flexible organic light emitting diode is a type of organic light-emitting diode. The reason it has not taken over is due to the fact that it has a lot of disadvantages and it's development progress is lacking due to certain obstacles in the type of technology . "Both flexible substrate itself as well as the process of bending the device introduce stress into the materials. There may be residual stress from the deposition of layers onto a flexible substrate, thermal stresses due to the different coefficient of thermal expansion of materials in the device, in addition to the external stress from the bending of the device." Stress introduced into the organic layers may lower the efficiency or brightness of the device as it is deformed, or cause complete breakdown of the device altogether. Indium tin oxide (ITO), the material most commonly used as the transparent anode, is brittle. Fracture of the anode can occur which can increase the sheet resistance of the ITO or disrupt the layered structure of the OLED. Although ITO is the most common and best understood anode material used in OLEDs, research has been undertaken into alternative materials that are better suited for flexible applications including carbon nanotubes. Encapsulation is another challenge for flexible OLED devices. The materials in an OLED are sensitive to air and moisture which lead to degradation of the materials themselves as well as quenching of excited states within the molecule. The common method of encapsulation for regular OLEDs is to seal the organic layer between glass. Flexible encapsulation methods are generally not as effective a barrier to air and moisture as glass, and current research aims to improve the encapsulation of flexible organic light emitting diodes"
These are a great idea with so many potential uses. I feel that as a phone screen though one simple issue people may have is that when pressing buttons on the screen for example, they like it to be a hard surface that they press against. Ok, so you can use a table i guess but what if that's not available.
I've been hoping for a "wrist-computer" for some time: it'd have a thin flexible keyboard on your forearm (left one if right-handed) and a rollable thin screen held (when operating) in some 100º angle (as it's touch-screen, no mouse is needed). That's the main use I see for flexible screens: to make computers fully portable, soon displacing mobile phones and tablets. I can't say for sure, but I presume that the computer as such and the battery would be in a separate device in your pocket or hanging from a belt and connected by wires. I doubt they can be integrated in the wrist design as of yet but maybe they will be in the future as graphene tech becomes more consolidated.
Here's an idea for this technology. Does everyone remember photo printouts? This is literally going to possibly allow people to wall hang film reels and things like that on walls like a picture. Basically, in short, it's like the Harry Potter moving images. Its a very versatile format that allows for video placement in very odd places. idk if anyone's getting my drift here, but I think it'd be really cool for you to show someone a video on, essentially a piece of paper.
flexible, foldable screens r very impressive. everyone should welcome new technology. it revolutionise the internal decoration field also. but l think will boost in next 10 yrs
Your eyes can only see so many pixels so for example a 4 k tv would be the same as any below it but that's why the 4k is curved, so we can perceive more pixels so this flex stuff would be good with bending a tv to your preference for maximum vision
It’s not the lack of demand for this item, holding them back, but the durability of the screen. It has a temperature sensitivity issues. Also the flexible screens become dimpled after a being used a couple of times by the operator. They need to stat looking at silicon material, that do not incur damage from being used again and again, instead of using ridged acetate sheets.
Even though I currently using an old plasma flat screen TV my sister gave me, I am still fascinated with this kind of technology and would love to see it take off.
Why would one want one in say a phone? PCB's aren't flexible, batteries arent't flexible. Not by design at least. Where are you going to unroll it? Would it require some sort of "scaffolding" to stay in shape when rolled out? I just don't see the use for it. The moment's when I can sit down with my phone and comfortably use a big floppy peice of plastic as a screen are close to none. And phines by the way are fragile as they are. Would a foldable/rollable display last a year of normal use? As the girl in the intro is using it for example - who the heck would use it like that?! And where is the actual device? No this, in mobile use, is as practical as those transparant displays that we just had to get to work a while ago.
maybe for example you could have a small slim rectangle box that has all the phone components and then there is a telescoping scaffolding similar to a suitcase that brings out the screen when you open it.
You fail to see how flexible displays are much more durable than the display panels in current phones. Dropping your phone wouldn't cause the display panel inside to show streaks of random colors. Flexible panels would be amazing for consumers.
we don't need flexible displays neither do we need thin displays, phones ect they are already thin enough what we really need is better batteries and faster computers.
For one thing i can take this as art and put a tv wherever i want, and have a screen as big as a wall we NEED this A.S.A.P ,and if you sell at a bargin price your volume will increase and it will be the new fad take my money allready😃😊
Hi , This is awesome info! I am looking at having a secure roll-able screen for for my e-book, that my readers who fly frequently, can carry in their pockets or handbags.
This will be an awesome product for all the kids that have sleep-overs. My son has a 40" smart tv and a play station that he takes with him to his sleep-overs. The same happens when his friends sleep over and bring their big monitors.
I really want to buy individual displays like this to integrate into personal projects. So many personal projects. This is going to revolutionize wearable technology and cyberpunk style fashion.
Why do people want this? Seems like a ridiculous idea to me. I w pulls much rather prefer my devices to not flop around while I'm trying to use them Thank you very much.
I love small Phones that fit in my Pockets. I hate it that there are no more small phones on the market. With this I could roll up thos ridiculously big phones or fold them and could finaly put a phone in my pocket again.
Let me spoil it for everyone. The definitive reason why this isn't a thing is: It's a shit idea. No one wants this. It's cute and gimmicky but has no practicality. Maybe just repurposed for something else.
I disagree. Think about anything where saving ounces matter. Military, space, hiking, and if waterproof underwater application would be beneficial. Having this in an upscale clubhouse or anyplace that would have the need as a status symbol. Imagine a National Geographic flexible "magazine" in a doctor's office or brokerage firm on Wall Street. Who had the first cell phones? You know those big bricks? Wall Street.
Return to classical drafting but with the benefits of digitization. The link between design and construction. While zooming has its place, one needs to be able to see full plan sheets. The largest manageable paper plan sheet is D or E size 2’x3’. This is the magic number for design and construction. We are still using paper plan sheets because it is a consumable quantity of information with built in static zoom and the ability to carry and look at. If you could carry a full plan set or all your plan sets, in a single 1/8” or 1/16” sheet that will be revolutionary. Especially if designers are working on the same format. Combined with some sense of touch for design.
What's stopping them is the fact that they're a lot more difficult to damage under normal use. Harder to damage = less money spent on replacements = less profits. Obviously, companies aren't going to adopt a technology that hurts their profits unless there's sufficient proven demand for it to offset that loss. At this point, you can literally buy flexible displays online for projects and at relatively low cost, too. Shenzen Eurotech has them on sale on alibaba for around $6 to $15 per unit (depending on size) with a minimum order of 2. So at this point the volume is there and there's no excuse.
@@casshernsins8333 Only if you leave the scree completely exposed - a thin sheet of clear plastic should be enough to protect it for general use. And on the flip side, you won't have to worry about impact damage to the screen since it will just flex out of the way.
They could be used in the construction industry for large blueprints. One advantage for large blueprints is that you can have many people stand around and view and point at things on the blueprint so you can communicate your ideas easily. Small screens mean that only a few people standing next to each other can show ideas at one time. Also large screens mean you have a giant bulky rigid screen to carry around. So having a large roll-able screen is the best of all worlds combined into one product. It also allows for corrections or changes to be made on the spot that are instantly relayed to everyone else without having to re print blueprints.
The last one was super cool...bending the display to make a curved screen and gaming on it....gone are the days of triple monitors to create immersive experience...
masterchief helmet with integrated displays.. for stuff like motorcylels , or airsoft or even for military use with an overlay from termic camps and night vission .
Having a large folding capable display would be such an awesome tool, Have a large flat screen for working, or watching movies. Then be able to curve it around you for playing games such as the clip @ 2:14.
Just a tip for the gamers commenting on how awesome the peripheral vision is. My friend has a very good projector and we have played on huge surface areas with it. The big issue is in games like Halo and Overwatch where you need to keep your eyes out for enemies quickly, your neck will start to hurt, like killer hurt. You tell yourself you wont turn but you'll just use your peripheral vision, but the way we game mostly doesn't allow us to conquer that yet. It's a cool idea, but in real use it's very uncomfortable.
At larger sizes would this be touch screen? Have they resolved the power, scaling, resolution issues? What are the largest dimensions for this technology?
This would be awesome as an interactive newspaper or magazine each day you unroll it and you get the daily news/latest gossip. Would boost online subscriptions for sure.
I think militaries could have an interesting use case. Allow for soldiers to have live feeds of drone footage to see where enemy emplacements are or maps so they could better coordinate their fire or movements.
the best thing about my phone is i can press a few buttons in it and i can speak to people or i can press loads of buttons and send them a message. thats all i ever want or need from a phone
another problem that must be tackled with these is in software, having current aspect ratios like 16:9/21:9 and others. The screen may look a bit distorted the more its folded? unless when you fold it around you in games, you increase your field of view. either way it would be useful just when it comes to ease of transportation
Imagine a Trade Show Booth being able to completely pack-up into a road case, complete with moving visual displays. Movie Theatre Posters and similar advertisements in Airports would be a great market for these super-thin displays.
Flexible displays would be perfect for VR. With the right lenses we could have peripheral vision.
Not to mention it would make them more lightweight.
Also less bulky
No more cellphone strapped to your face
This should get put into development sooner than later
Babby Bab. cbyson
I imagine how in 20 years or so our kinds will say that strapping a smartphone over your face was such dumb idea
+Babby Babbyson you ok mobile VR is the shittest thing ever everyone here is talking about PC VR not mobile think about it non mobile VR has screens in each lens mobile VR has a shit phone strapped to a $2 cardbard or plastic box with a rope attached to your face
Mom: "Timmy! We're going! Grab whatever you plan to bring! "Timmy: "uuuuhhhh fine." *rolls up TV and puts in car*
lol
+John Henry lol
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Praveen M Oh hey, emoji trash.
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I'm less concerned with the flexibility and foldability of the display. What interests me more is the paper thin nature of it. I'd love to have a large TV on my wall that is essentially just wallpaper.
I love how you reply to this as though I'm some kind of moron for not caring if the display is flexible. Explain why the flexibility or lack there-of is of paramount concern if I want a paper thin television on my wall. Yes, I think flexible displays are neat but my focus wasn't on the enjoyment of a screen that I can roll up. I'm sorry if you think this is stupid.
Those wallpaper tv's exist but they are like $40,000
+Native Texan, Pakoo Pay misunderstood your comment.
He thought you wanted a rigid, thin display - when what you expressed interest in was the fact that these flexible displays are also very thin, and could be useful to you in that way.
His thought process was that "dumbass wants a super rigid, super thin TV - that thing is gonna shatter like glass" - this would be a problem with a very rigid object with a thickness of only a millimetre. However, it's clear that if it had to be flexible, you wouldn't care - you just want something thin. Which seems doable, given the content of this video.
I don't qualify that as a misunderstanding. I said I have less concern about it's flexibility than I do about it's dimensions. Less does not mean none. He automatically assumed that because I wan't fully interested in the fact that I can roll it up, I MUST want a rigid pane of glass.
Having less of an interest in a quality of something doesn't mean that I want it to be opposite of that quality. Example, I recently make chicken for dinner. I had more interest in making sure the fat and gristle were removed and less interest in how juicy it came out. By his logic, that means I want a piece of chicken that is a dry brick of chicken charcoal when done cooking. See how ridiculous that sounds?
He didn't misunderstand, he assumed the opposite.
Native Texan LG wallpaper thinner then coin and its 10k
What happened to your hand?! - Just a phone cut.
Remember the Moto Razer? :D
Would love to roll my 65 inch TV up and put it in my backpack.
Bradley Eversley , cut it into pieces and put it there
Bradley Eversley haha this would be funny
what will you do with that without an antenna?
U won't laughing in 2040. It is possible.
That intro tho
The girl is pressing all the wrong places
+ADeeb Bushnaq lol
Hahahhaha xD
+ADeeb Bushnaq Like me searching for the G spot
plasticguitar Lmao! Feel for the bean!
When someone demonstrating on o2jam can't even o2jam correctly.
FINALLY I can fold my tv into a crane!
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Uses for the technology
Magazines
Newspapers
Wallpaper
Folding phone
Mounting a TV
Smartwatches
Packaging
Labels
Clothing
Replace projectors
Portability
1970: i bet in the future we will have fidget spinners and roblox
2017:
the fidget spinner was actually made in 1997
Nope your wrong
it was first appear & Availability in 1993
I was first conceptualised in 1992/1995 Yeah!
Yep it's 1990s
PaperBoy the future is nigh.
When you realised it was uploaded 4 years ago.
Well it was not recommended right?
No need for triple monitors for gaming,now we have a 60'inch flexible screen for real gaming experience
With a flexible gtx 1080
+Some Guy
That sounds amazing.
Come to think of it, that's going to cause some problems on the OS side. Thing's like making a window fullscreen are going to make it FULLSCREEN. Most of the time you're not going to want that so the OS's are going to have to come up with a solution.
+Jack Evans I'm sure they will think of something.Afterall,we are living in the beginning of the future.
As long as you can manage to make it a wide screen and somehow split it into 3+ different monitors.
Some Guy splitting can be done with software or hardware. easy
Perhaps flexible displays are the one piece of technology that companies want to perfect before throwing them out into the wild? Think about it, they're taking a big bet with flexible displays.
I agree, tech companies need to take time for more development and more importantly taking perseverance into the project
Consumer education is going to be important as well. Otherwise we'll have a rash of people creasing their "foldable" displays, only to crack and ruin them.
I think it is more about patents and usability. The big companies are having battles over flexible display tech. The other side is the usability. Although it is very cool such a flexible screen, what is it actually going to be used for vs durability? Curved screens already flooded the market and for the home usage there is no need for more curves. Phone screens tried curves as well, but did really catch on, plus why would it? Phones and tabs (etc) need regidity to function good and to offer durability. Flexible motherboards, chips etc are not there yet ;) So what is the usage of a flexible screen then? Other then the "ooh cool" factor and perhaps commercial display setups? To me personally the flexible display market will mostly be for production advantages once the tech has been refined and production processes optimized. As i said before, current display tech already allows for curving.
I definitely want smart wallpaper that will act as a wall sized window to the outside world(and very large TV of course). You see out but everyone on the other side sees nothing but the brick and mortar.
That's a great idea. Better yet, why not make it double sided and put it in a regular window. Then you can choose what you see, and what people on the other side see. Make ad revenue on the side of your house. XD
Blake Truax amazing idea
Yeah and you could make those people see the inside of your house and look outside from the other side.
last thing we need is to make robbers' jobs easier by showing them the nice things we have inside our homes.
lcd paint was invented over a decade ago ;)
i just think it would be cool to have your walls covered with it . than you will be able to "renovate" each month by changing the colors of your walls/
Eyalחןעצוןי5עוגנט Ben Ari good idea I have been thinking the same thing for a while now but believe that using a colour e-ink display would work better due to the fact they are already available-ish, are cheaper, don't emit light so it would be more like real wallpaper and don't use energy except when changing the display. The main downfall of e-ink is the lower resolution and frame rate but for wallpaper I don't see that being an issue.
Yea I have thought this through way to much!
Good luck paying the electric bill. Also, Oled has a tendency to burn in really bad and dim over time.
Good luck on your health. Monitors are know to emit radiation too.
THIS ^^^
@@johnmichael4106 what are you talking about, C'mon.
YOU emit radiation. Do you feel warm to the touch? Are you anything other than Vantablack?
Skip the foldable displays. Give us portals.
unwrapping by mimi koteng yep
Well, for now, this could simulate a portal
Did you meant hologram?
+Terry Spanky no like doreamon any way door
I want a reusable teleport scroll like dota 2. Willing to trade with my car here.
i like the gaming use at 2:20 to fill your peripheral view
I agree. It would be perfect for simulators, Flight / Space games.. anything. I note the edges of some of the screens are transparent, so I wondered if you could overlay them edge to edge to end up with an infinite screen or complete circle.
A complete circle is not very useful because the human field of vision is only a 180° and it would be hard to get into and out of the circle.
idk, lets just use an FPS game for example, your running around heading to a checkpoint or something and instead of making your character turn around to see what is behind you and in-turn open up an opportunity for someone to shoot you, you could turn your head but remain running forward. now the survival game "rust" sort'a made it so you could do this. you can hold alt and move the mouse left or right to see behind you whilst you remain in a forward running direction and the FPS battlefield 4 and 1 allow you to do the same whilst flying. i never use this myself but if you could have a full 360 degree setup and allow someone to turn their head to see behind them, i think that would be absolutely insane. i would definitely use that. just a thought anyway.
Just to clarify, ARMA did that alt-look thing first, that got popularized by the DayZ mod, which started the survival genre... one of its spinoffs is Rust. ;) So Rust didnt invent it.
in a multiplayer game that would make it unfair that one player has a 360 view while others do not also thats a SHIT ton of processing power to be able to render everything around you instead of just the 100 degree or so fov. also Petr is right arma started the whole running while looking around thing.
Who cares about putting them on phones. Give me an 80" so I can hang it on my wall.
that's what came to my mind as well!
jolmeaki LG has one now
jolmeaki lg has u covered for 7000$
Fahrenheit 451 comes to mind. Not a pleasant thought.
jolmeaki or just make a room out of it
Foldable displays can make interactive globes! Imagine having a globe that can be changed to suit any geographical or geopolitcal visualization! It would be an excellent teaching tool!
It would be perfect for my home built flight simulator. Wrap around screen would eliminate all the problems associated with setting up front, left and right views from the cockpit seat. Currently need to use three to six large lcds all running from synced computers with each screen showing a different view. Another approach currently used is to build a curved screen and use two or three projectors.... of course then needing to use warp software. The problem there is keeping the projections from jerking when the simulator is moving during flight aerobatics.
A curved tv screen or two would be fixed to the body of the simulator thus eliminating multiple flat screens or projectors.
@Lurch7861 Ha ha. That was three years ago. Come a long way since then. Have built three axis motion sim - with a dual seat/dual control cockpit with three 55 inch 4K screen for front, left and right, plus three more for instrument panels. Not quite the cost of an actual plane but fairly pricy with high end computer to run everything. But of course I can go anywhere in the world with MSFS and I can’t get killed doing risky stuff.
a great use case is the head mounted display monitor ... not vr head set but similar.. for work... with you motion and movement around you can virtually switch to another monitor... vr headsets are not good for long time work and for people travelling or for any reason cant carry monitors , that was just an example there are many other use cases such as land surveyors
Can make a booth-like contraption and play video games with a 360-degree view without VR.
why would you do this? vr is much better.,.. if they can make it smaller and more affortible then it is really nice... i dont have my own but a frined had it... its great
The way things are changing so quickly, I think it's foolish to call a new technology useless or a waste.
2019 - it's finally here!!!
Not only would it be great to get peripheral vision in non-VR games, but I really want to see a foldable, GPS map. Something to fit in a pocket rather than mounted.
Flexible displays don't mean that they can be creased, though, so that would probably come a bit later. Rolling it up would work, though.
We're still waiting but manufacturers are trying to still create glass displays. As a result what's been released is mostly a gimmick - foldable phones and laptops etc but it has a big crease down the middle and has a limited life cycle because they keep trying to make it with a glass display. Until they ditch the glass we'll still have heavy, solid devices.
strange how long it has taken for this to finally get to market!
I want a phone screen that rolls up into a pen, and can extend to a tablet sized display...
But it won't be rigid
RockCh4lk it's a give and take,i die I've don't mind that, ima use it like a book on table
Where do you keep all the other components that run the screen?
explain to me how the battery and components will be flexible ? this will never be possible until true wireless charging takes over.
KMS MEMES we could battery outside of the flexible screen
put it on a t shirt or back of a jacket, have moving advertisement on clothes
John Alex battery pacj
Get your new solar powered shirt here! Solar powered!!!
great...so mankind is reduced to turning human beings into billboards.
Idiocracy coming true.
Fun idea, but please. No.
an excellent devices sir. easy to carry for events. travelling and labour expenses will b decreased for us definitely
When it comes to that kind of tech, I want a mansion where all the walls and ceilings are like obviously real strong normal walls, but the outside has like a ton of protected cameras and the inside is all seamless and flexible screens that I can turn on and off to make it seem like I’m sitting in a room without walls or ceilings. I could see the active feed of what’s going on outside.
they are kind of impractical. It has a lot of gee whiz factor, but do you read a newspaper flat, or do you bend it around something?
Nobody read bend news paper, the reason why we want flexible screen is not to read it but to easily carry it around, putting it in small places.
If at all possible, someone could develop flexible ram, processors, SD cards, and other assorted parts to possibly make a completely flexible smartphone.
maybe not. maybe the screen only showing the image. the machine like something that you can put in ur pocket and sending the data via bluetooth or other wireless connections. perhaps with the power too. just maybe loool
Paul Noonan flexible ram???????????
Paul Noonan Ram???????????
still iphold will come with 16gb model with a price tag of $600
That last example would be glorious. Playing video games on a screen that basically wraps around you would be so cool.
I like the idea of using them in augmented reality. If you were able to make the screen fully transparent but still display stuff on certain sections, you could cover a pair of glasses with them, like the guy in the video. That would absolutely amazing. VR would also be an awesome application because you could reduce a massive amount of the bulk in a VR headset, due to the fact that the screen is so light and flexible, only requiring the accelerometers and motion tracking, which is already pretty small.
id make a joint out of an lg g8 if thats ever gonna be a thing
lol
FOLED or flexible organic light emitting diode is a type of organic light-emitting diode.
The reason it has not taken over is due to the fact that it has a lot of disadvantages and it's development progress is lacking due to certain obstacles in the type of technology .
"Both flexible substrate itself as well as the process of bending the device introduce stress into the materials. There may be residual stress from the deposition of layers onto a flexible substrate, thermal stresses due to the different coefficient of thermal expansion of materials in the device, in addition to the external stress from the bending of the device."
Stress introduced into the organic layers may lower the efficiency or brightness of the device as it is deformed, or cause complete breakdown of the device altogether. Indium tin oxide (ITO), the material most commonly used as the transparent anode, is brittle. Fracture of the anode can occur which can increase the sheet resistance of the ITO or disrupt the layered structure of the OLED. Although ITO is the most common and best understood anode material used in OLEDs, research has been undertaken into alternative materials that are better suited for flexible applications including carbon nanotubes.
Encapsulation is another challenge for flexible OLED devices. The materials in an OLED are sensitive to air and moisture which lead to degradation of the materials themselves as well as quenching of excited states within the molecule. The common method of encapsulation for regular OLEDs is to seal the organic layer between glass. Flexible encapsulation methods are generally not as effective a barrier to air and moisture as glass, and current research aims to improve the encapsulation of flexible organic light emitting diodes"
mackjeez thats exactly what i was going to say
#wikipedia here
They need to use graphene
2 tiny curved see trough screens that fit over my eyeball like a lens. Augmented reallity is the future!
These are a great idea with so many potential uses.
I feel that as a phone screen though one simple issue people may have is that when pressing buttons on the screen for example, they like it to be a hard surface that they press against.
Ok, so you can use a table i guess but what if that's not available.
I've been hoping for a "wrist-computer" for some time: it'd have a thin flexible keyboard on your forearm (left one if right-handed) and a rollable thin screen held (when operating) in some 100º angle (as it's touch-screen, no mouse is needed). That's the main use I see for flexible screens: to make computers fully portable, soon displacing mobile phones and tablets.
I can't say for sure, but I presume that the computer as such and the battery would be in a separate device in your pocket or hanging from a belt and connected by wires. I doubt they can be integrated in the wrist design as of yet but maybe they will be in the future as graphene tech becomes more consolidated.
They are here. iPhone 6
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Techiseverything Are you stupid Lol?
Watching on my Z Flip 4
The fckn edge on a samsung phone and curved tvs is all they came up with. So sad
HazardEdit well Samsung is the first to make curved screen phones.
And Samsung is making a bendable screen
I kinda like the edge screen so no worries here
They are about to launch their official foldable screens next year they announced it.
I just want a phone and nothing else, why want a floppy phone? Needless innovation is pointless if it's not practical.
HazardEdit stfu samsung is creative af and they have super ideas unlike apple. Nothings there own idea
Here's an idea for this technology. Does everyone remember photo printouts? This is literally going to possibly allow people to wall hang film reels and things like that on walls like a picture. Basically, in short, it's like the Harry Potter moving images. Its a very versatile format that allows for video placement in very odd places. idk if anyone's getting my drift here, but I think it'd be really cool for you to show someone a video on, essentially a piece of paper.
flexible, foldable screens r very impressive. everyone should welcome new technology. it revolutionise the internal decoration field also. but l think will boost in next 10 yrs
Your eyes can only see so many pixels so for example a 4 k tv would be the same as any below it but that's why the 4k is curved, so we can perceive more pixels so this flex stuff would be good with bending a tv to your preference for maximum vision
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Samsung Galaxy fold just got shown off at the Samsung unpacked event
It’s not the lack of demand for this item, holding them back, but the durability of the screen. It has a temperature sensitivity issues.
Also the flexible screens become dimpled after a being used a couple of times by the operator. They need to stat looking at silicon material, that do not incur damage from being used again and again, instead of using ridged acetate sheets.
Even though I currently using an old plasma flat screen TV my sister gave me, I am still fascinated with this kind of technology and would love to see it take off.
i just want one that folds up to a phone and then when you get home, you can unroll it to make it a tablet
or better yet, you can roll it to make a joint
Why would one want one in say a phone? PCB's aren't flexible, batteries arent't flexible. Not by design at least. Where are you going to unroll it? Would it require some sort of "scaffolding" to stay in shape when rolled out? I just don't see the use for it. The moment's when I can sit down with my phone and comfortably use a big floppy peice of plastic as a screen are close to none. And phines by the way are fragile as they are. Would a foldable/rollable display last a year of normal use?
As the girl in the intro is using it for example - who the heck would use it like that?! And where is the actual device? No this, in mobile use, is as practical as those transparant displays that we just had to get to work a while ago.
maybe for example you could have a small slim rectangle box that has all the phone components and then there is a telescoping scaffolding similar to a suitcase that brings out the screen when you open it.
You could have just a regular smartphone with a flexible screen that doesn't shatter into a million pieces when you drop the damn thing.
Maybe they want the screen to shatter because of planned obsolescence.
You fail to see how flexible displays are much more durable than the display panels in current phones. Dropping your phone wouldn't cause the display panel inside to show streaks of random colors. Flexible panels would be amazing for consumers.
Flexible PCB's aren't new.
I travelled a “few years” into the future. Where’s my paper thin flexiscreen?
this would have been perfect for the future, and the fact this was 8 years ago (by the time of commenting) is just so nostalgic to me
If the sound is such a problem can't the make some sort of Bluetooth pod that plays the sound?
we don't need flexible displays neither do we need thin displays, phones ect they are already thin enough what we really need is better batteries and faster computers.
Lachlan O'Neil phones are already fast "enough".
For one thing i can take this as art and put a tv wherever i want, and have a screen as big as a wall we NEED this A.S.A.P ,and if you sell at a bargin price your volume will increase and it will be the new fad take my money allready😃😊
I would probably buy a see through flexible display. Put it on my window or something.
How about a window that is see through like a normal window but also a digital screen?
It takes 5 years, to finally, flexible display mobile device trends, come true...
Hi , This is awesome info! I am looking at having a secure roll-able screen for for my e-book, that my readers who fly frequently, can carry in their pockets or handbags.
lol so how much is a foldable 4k screen gonna cost? around 10k? :D
More than
xorkatoss how about the sensitive iphone x? $999 for the face id shit
Watching on my Galaxy z fold 3... Lol
I like my screens like my lolis.
80" in diameter?
what is the refresh rate and response time of such displays?
Now I'm watching this on my z flip 3. Crazy how far flexible displays have come
100% smartwatch
+Ramon Teuling or smart band in that case
I CAN FIT MY FLATSCREEN IN MY POCKET....................NO MORE SMARTPHONE NEEDED
ikr 😑😾
Why would anyone want this?
Red-Haired Shanks For school. It could be thin enough to easily hide it
Red-Haired Shanks
Can u actually not think of any?
The sane reason why people wanted the first smartphone😐
Red-Haired Shanks I want that.
Because it is compact, portable, light weight and can be put in small places.
This will be an awesome product for all the kids that have sleep-overs. My son has a 40" smart tv and a play station that he takes with him to his sleep-overs. The same happens when his friends sleep over and bring their big monitors.
I really want to buy individual displays like this to integrate into personal projects. So many personal projects. This is going to revolutionize wearable technology and cyberpunk style fashion.
Why do people want this? Seems like a ridiculous idea to me. I w pulls much rather prefer my devices to not flop around while I'm trying to use them Thank you very much.
I love small Phones that fit in my Pockets. I hate it that there are no more small phones on the market. With this I could roll up thos ridiculously big phones or fold them and could finaly put a phone in my pocket again.
We want it because it is compact, portable and can be put in small places.
The reason flexible displays havent "Taken Over" is because they are a pointless gimmick.
You won't have them in a phone for sure, but they can be used elsewhere. Actually they're not pointless at all, very useful in fact.
It wasn't made by Apple, that's why its "pointless gimmick". Right Resarth?
Also they are NOT crease proof
+fr33k
self-repairing membranes, boy.
@Void of Space and Time
I don't think so, We are not that technologically advanced.
Let me spoil it for everyone.
The definitive reason why this isn't a thing is:
It's a shit idea. No one wants this. It's cute and gimmicky but has no practicality. Maybe just repurposed for something else.
It is, It would be good in Magazine format for magazines though!
yeahhhh... you mean like Samsung Edge?
Yeah, useless. More compact displays are useless.
You obviously have no imagination and limited resourcefulness.
I disagree. Think about anything where saving ounces matter. Military, space, hiking, and if waterproof underwater application would be beneficial.
Having this in an upscale clubhouse or anyplace that would have the need as a status symbol. Imagine a National Geographic flexible "magazine" in a doctor's office or brokerage firm on Wall Street.
Who had the first cell phones? You know those big bricks? Wall Street.
Return to classical drafting but with the benefits of digitization. The link between design and construction. While zooming has its place, one needs to be able to see full plan sheets. The largest manageable paper plan sheet is D or E size 2’x3’. This is the magic number for design and construction. We are still using paper plan sheets because it is a consumable quantity of information with built in static zoom and the ability to carry and look at. If you could carry a full plan set or all your plan sets, in a single 1/8” or 1/16” sheet that will be revolutionary. Especially if designers are working on the same format. Combined with some sense of touch for design.
What's stopping them is the fact that they're a lot more difficult to damage under normal use. Harder to damage = less money spent on replacements = less profits. Obviously, companies aren't going to adopt a technology that hurts their profits unless there's sufficient proven demand for it to offset that loss.
At this point, you can literally buy flexible displays online for projects and at relatively low cost, too. Shenzen Eurotech has them on sale on alibaba for around $6 to $15 per unit (depending on size) with a minimum order of 2. So at this point the volume is there and there's no excuse.
? I’m pretty sure they’re more easily damaged. Like scratches and tears
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Only if you leave the scree completely exposed - a thin sheet of clear plastic should be enough to protect it for general use. And on the flip side, you won't have to worry about impact damage to the screen since it will just flex out of the way.
it's nice to have different paths to the same goal. with augmented reality, hopefully there won't be any need for external apparati
They could be used in the construction industry for large blueprints. One advantage for large blueprints is that you can have many people stand around and view and point at things on the blueprint so you can communicate your ideas easily. Small screens mean that only a few people standing next to each other can show ideas at one time. Also large screens mean you have a giant bulky rigid screen to carry around. So having a large roll-able screen is the best of all worlds combined into one product. It also allows for corrections or changes to be made on the spot that are instantly relayed to everyone else without having to re print blueprints.
Great idea for Military, Law Enforcement and Emergency personal.
The last one was super cool...bending the display to make a curved screen and gaming on it....gone are the days of triple monitors to create immersive experience...
masterchief helmet with integrated displays.. for stuff like motorcylels , or airsoft or even for military use with an overlay from termic camps and night vission .
Finally happening. First bendable OLED monitor is here and Samsung has some sweet bendable device prototypes.
Awesome. You can basically roll up a screen the size of a tablet into your pocket. Aftermarket should be all over this
Having a large folding capable display would be such an awesome tool, Have a large flat screen for working, or watching movies. Then be able to curve it around you for playing games such as the clip @ 2:14.
Just a tip for the gamers commenting on how awesome the peripheral vision is. My friend has a very good projector and we have played on huge surface areas with it. The big issue is in games like Halo and Overwatch where you need to keep your eyes out for enemies quickly, your neck will start to hurt, like killer hurt. You tell yourself you wont turn but you'll just use your peripheral vision, but the way we game mostly doesn't allow us to conquer that yet. It's a cool idea, but in real use it's very uncomfortable.
Very useful inside diving mask to display info about dive times etc.
How does it get its battery life? i am assuming you still plugged it in to a wall outlet.
that screen, a motion chair, titanfall 2, coin slot BOOM. MONEY!
At larger sizes would this be touch screen? Have they resolved the power, scaling, resolution issues? What are the largest dimensions for this technology?
This would be awesome as an interactive newspaper or magazine each day you unroll it and you get the daily news/latest gossip. Would boost online subscriptions for sure.
That flexible curved big inch TV at 2:13 looks immersive. A link to its specifics would be interesting
I think militaries could have an interesting use case. Allow for soldiers to have live feeds of drone footage to see where enemy emplacements are or maps so they could better coordinate their fire or movements.
the best thing about my phone is i can press a few buttons in it and i can speak to people or i can press loads of buttons and send them a message. thats all i ever want or need from a phone
And now they are on the Market, FINALLY
Is that graphane?
another problem that must be tackled with these is in software, having current aspect ratios like 16:9/21:9 and others. The screen may look a bit distorted the more its folded? unless when you fold it around you in games, you increase your field of view. either way it would be useful just when it comes to ease of transportation
Perfect for a tiny house 🏡 also in Cars and vans
I've already had an idea for something to use this with, just a matter of fully fleshing out a design and the like
its good to see this replacing those glassy screens that cracks
Imagine a Trade Show Booth being able to completely pack-up into a road case, complete with moving visual displays. Movie Theatre Posters and similar advertisements in Airports would be a great market for these super-thin displays.
So how many would it take to wrap a "car" in this? is there a minimum order?