At esten part of india (Odisha,WB) we face more 3x stroms floods than Pakistan .but we always face it and survive it like nothing happened .because of ISRO forecast satalites highly accurates and flood and disaster management system in Odisha..you guys are also look into it
They’ll blame Yahudi and nasrani for those too. They haven’t learned from 2010 floods. For Disaster management they have simple formula: Disaster+Donation= Dollars.
Orissa has seen a fantastic effort by all stakeholders; people, local state government and the central government. Cyclones with wind speeds of upto 170 km per hour do not result in deaths; in extreme cases deaths in single digits. Salute all concerned.
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In Orissa there was a super cyclone in 2000 where 10k people died. Since then got formed a national disaster relief force. They are very well equipped for relief of all kinds and also the various agencies from weather dept to police local , state and central departments have improved coordination. Not ideal but much better. Similarly Bangladesh used to have thousands of deaths in floods which is now reduced in last 2 decades even while cyclones have increases. Please see where the administration is failing in Pakistan- what has happened is very sad indeed.
Yaar dunno why but I find Uzair so easy to listen to for long stretches of time! Pata nahi kaise he manages to make jargon perfectly understandable! Even though I mostly disagree with his econo-political alignment, he's hands down my favorite economist Thanks for bringing him on; jeetay raho:)
Our Banks are financing cars, instead of lending to small or medium businesses. Bangladesh is an excellent example where banks provide finances at micro level, encouraging enterpreneurship at micro level.
Alhamdulila.. a Great show .. great host, competent Guest and diverse discussion. I’m Pakistan we have so many economy experts, from different ages & financial expertise, but in 75 years, our country is on downward spiral, while we can’t even compare with Bangladesh, let alone India who is in totally big 5 giants of the world. Even though the discussion was amazing, but when it comes to discussing success of india, our default “Mutalya-e-Pakistan” imbibed mindset come into action. We don’t have audacity to accept the reality how fast india has grown in last 10 years, but our scholars & intellects are muddled in 70s . Our collective wisdom is inversely proportional to the quantum leaps in science & technology. No hope for our country in near future unless the chronic establishment disinfects itself from political engineering. Pakistan Paindabad
Pakistan has crossed the point of no return. The steep currency devaluation and the natural disaster that followed has really pushed it over the edge. I pray for the common people of the country and sincerely hope that the Govt comes to its senses and immediately intervene to prevent hardships on its people.
@@ibratnak you are right, Indians sound delusional and prejudiced when they talk of Pakistan economy. But Asia cup you lost one match and won one match with india. If we had carry-over of points from group stage, India would be in finals.
@@ibratnak no I think you have a very good team now. Earlier Virat & Rohit were #1 and #2 batsmen and Bumrah was one of the top ranked bowlers. Now your Babar and Rizwan are 1,2 and you have bowlers like Naseem, Shaheen. So you are at the same place India was few years ago.
@@ibratnak thats the maturity level. Im so happy. We can offer many more such losses to you considering the mentality of jihadis on self destruction mode. 1 abhinandan and some cricket matches will go a long way to make pakistan super power.
I read Uzair Younus article on Mundra Port in Dawn. Very good article. Since I'm an RSS member, Uzair's knowledge about Hindutva, RSS is limited. He's looking at RSS from Left, West glasses. One of the best books to know about RSS is Walter Andersons - The Brotherhood in Saffron
pakistanis, no matter how well -educated technically, will ALWAYS be blind-sided when it comes to Hindus and India. These clowns don't have the slightest clue of what Hindutva is. If Hindutva is "fascist", so was the muslim league and its use of political agency to carve out a separate nation.
@@mrgyani That's the problem. RSS trains SS in shaka and then SS go to different social field and work voluntarily. In my knowledge, it is a very unique organisation and no other org does that.
@@aanakrukavi I am against RSS but if RSS can disown Bajrang dal and Hindu Mahasabha. It can improve it's image seperately. But supporting extremists like Bajrang Dal and Hindu Mahasabha makes them one.
Kudos to both shehzad and Uzair for an amicable discussion on political economy. Being a patriotic Pakistani American, I can’t understand the judgemental and preconceived notions our people have about this BJP Hindutva thing in every discussion? Only & only is Pakistanis are the one who try to portray as leader of Islamic countries and we act like torch bearers for islamophobia .. while forgetting what crimes our state and subjects are doing in the name blasphemy. No other Muslim country has such radicalized and extremist population as ours, but we as a country rank worst in corruption, judiciary, education , health, sports and passports etc. it’s not only sad but frustrating that we are trying our best to show india in despicable way. Just the fact that being a nuclear country, we are begging for 1 billion dollars to run our state, and still have the guts to call out india who have 600 billion in reserves. I too was infected by such mentality unless I moved to USA -Canada as undergrad and then confronted the shocking truths and the lies we propagate back in Pakistan.
@@livesports3096 lol 🤣🤣🤣 sirf corona nhi. 2016 se dekho india ki gdp crash ho gyi hai. 2016 mein 8% thi 2019 mein 3.4% 2020 mein -6. 6% . India ki GDP pichle 6 saalo se CRASH krr rhi hai. Average growth rate under bjp is just 5% from 2014-2022 Vs 8%+ from 2004-2014
As always, Uzair Younis is the best ever. Always a pleasure to listen to him and learn so much. TPE is one podcast that should be compulsory listening for everyone.
Literally!! This is called a show❤️❤️ when u switch on tv debates going on u did this u did that n no come out !! Shazd bro u doin great job !! Mking us proud that we also hve intellectuals like u !! But really disappointed with eco policies of this country !! Is eco character will b the solution or wht else ?? 😩😩
My only hope for pakistan is people like you. I hope and pray some miracle happens. Loved every second of your discussion and agree with everything you said
What I love about your podcasts is the fact its not about taking sides and proving someone wrong. Its about envisioning a brighter Pakistan. You're doing an awesome job Shehzad! Keep it up!
Very nice podcast. India’s growth story started after 1991 LPG reform, done by the rightist congress, pushed by IMF, before that congress was very leftist. Around the same period, Hindutva started taking pace in India (Babri demolition, 1992) triggered by pak-sponsored Islamic terrorism, (many blasts, pandits genocide 1990). Now after 2014, Hindutva started taking over India's foreign ideological mental slavery (Islamic, colonialist, communist) and getting back to its Hindutva/sanatani roots…though foreign ideologies, especially communist/leftist, are still dominant in India (couldn’t let farm law passed, one of the best reforms of Hindutva India). Now if you notice, the most painful economic reforms and infra transformations are done by Hindutva India (Atal & Modi)..I would argue, that coming back of Hindutva/real India is beneficial. Also for Pak, H-India seems good, as pak is trying to come out of Kashmir obsession and trying to move towards geo-economic. SCO, Mod called for free transit policy, Modi the Hindutva leader asking liberal Pakistani leader for mobility and connectivity. The thing is People have no idea about Hindutva, it’s totally opposite of Abrahamic religions. You can say its an advanced version of polytheistic greeks that led western roman empire to get out of Abrahamic dark ages when these greeko polytheistic liberal tolerant scholars ran to western empire after the fall of Constantinople. Hindutva is the advanced libertarian philosophy (titis were freed 1000s of yrs ago, brahm is seen in everything, so much studies were done on sex & kamasutra was created, art music dance is related to spiritual evolution, sculptures depicting love carved on temple, 100s of different philosophies, millions of gods, etc. etc. there are many more but does it sound opposite to Islam or Abrahamic religion) the ultimate philosophy of Hindutva is Moksha (true freedom or liberty), not slavery of any god, the realization of god/brahm in yourself - does it sound like empowerment!! the more India move towards its root, the more liberal, free, tolerant, scientific, prosperous, educated, curious it becomes…not only economic freedom, also see recent foreign policy, India been playing the most liberal, free, neutral foreign policy.. Hindutva is gonna disappoint to even liberal Pakistani until they come out of their foreign mental slavery (leftist/communist, Islamic, colonists) and come back to their Hindutva/sanatani roots. I guess it will take another 25 yrs when India starts leading the world. Hopefully, it may give you a little different perspective of Hindutva, I am working on a very interesting book. Thanks and Good Luck guys!!
No use, I have yet to encounter a Pakistani who DOESN'T equate hindutva with Islamism! When things go further bad, maybe more soul searching will happen!
Hey look it has nothing to do with ideology rather a strong government and intent..when this bjp gonna rule for let's say 20 years they too gonna go congress path of power grabbing by riots and all due to lack of motivation and if the devlopment slows down.. Look at your self in Modi's first tenure the most controversial thing was CAA/NRC that too at end of tenure..while numerous religious controversy have taken in just last 3 years... Reason??..the reason lies that when modi right wing fails to put a success in economy (they loose support of economic right wing voters) ... To concentrate the narrative around themselves they left with no choice but actually having religious controversy here and there... Much like congress who when failed severly in socialist model they targetted buisnessman and had Hindu Muslim riots for concentration of ideas and votes around them
@@71espn no wonder idiot.. considering the fact that this idea was laid down during the times of khilafat moment in India under British supression.. wonder what someone will even think when your second largest group of people is marching over religious discomfort of Khalifa rather than independence.... hindutva was always against this idea.. their mindset was like wherever muslim lives their loyalty is towards the face of saudia not to their own homeland.. where an issue outside of India will influence India's population.. However things have changed a lot from that Times..today it's better to assimilate.. however due to lallo chappo of congress muslims in India don't have a vocal left wing whixh demand reforms.. If you need a right wing government to abolish things like triple talaq (in which supreme court decision was overruled by parliament cause of pressure of fundamentalist) you know you have severe probelm
PKR to USD at time of this podcast was about 240, and they discussed "will not strengthen, bit on higher side right now". Now, in Sep 2023, it is well above 300 and long term forecast is about 400 plus in summer of 2024.
Excellent episode. loved how the conversation flowwwed. As a LUMS alum myself (quite a few yrs before you guys), it felt like I was sitting and listening to my own friends. Maza aa gaya. The way you talk about these topics feels like being home.
A Great discussion gone awry by the end. Whatever decent analysis we enjoyed for the better half of this podcast, but in the end the house of cards called and once this rhetorical music if Hindutva BJP and risks if Adani started .. it all came crashing back that no matter how educated we are, our hardwired mentality against India came into action. If we can’t accept the success of our enemy, we will keep begging from the world and an extremist like Maulana Imran Ahmed khan Niazi will infuse more hatred, polarity and extremism.
They are absolutely right about hindutwa and bjp. If you live in an eco chamber where you reject all criticism from secular liberals, and only feed on Modi bhakti day in day out - that is your problem, not theirs. In fact what they said was pretty mild - what is happening in India right now under that man is far worse.
All roads including highways must be motoring friendly. For a smooth Traffic flow, smart engineering is required to minimize blockades, and bottlenecks on rural and urban traffic. That can save fuel consumption by 20 to 30 percent.
1:51:00 India is also working on connecting UP to Myanmar and thiland with 1360km highway....by next year it will be completed...then it will be extended to Vietnam and Laos India has road as well rail links to Nepal and Bangladesh...and is also working on building a rail link to Bangladesh and Vietnam which are under construction... then the plans are to connect to China Malaysia and Singapore by both road and rail network....so things are going good in East...the problem is just Pakistan.... Afghanistan India both wants to connect but pakistan is the only problem in region.
1:52:38 ...the thing you said..well definitely India would face the heat one day but it doesn't mean that India will be the next pakistan....for example when the entire India have modi wave...the Rajputana rajasthan voted for congress..the aap is in punjab and the hidutvawadi Maharashtra voted for NCP....the south has it's own parties...while Bengal is with some another... The reality is India actually don't have many right wing parties for competition and neither bjp performs that good in state elections....the state control is extremely weak cause power runs down to states... Remember the farm bills..it was just one small state of 2.6 crores.. punjab..the power dynamics are completely different than a power center Rawalpindi for say which is ultimate power authority... Also Indian public mood shifts too..for example the State of gujrat..the modi is from there.. what's happening AAP is actually entering the state and gaining votes .... Modi is needed cause without a strong central government India isn't going to have reforms.. everytime a reform comes the protests for it are enormous.. Also uzair i didn't wonder mentioned the muslim radicalism in India and how muslim have the most fundamental voter base.. You need a right wing party'to remove triple talaq..??..
2 seconds given to the most important question(Massive Population growth) which has been pushing Pakistan back against its regional competitors tells you everything you need to know about this 2 hours podcast.
1:51:43 I don't think Radicalism is or willing be a big enough issue for India to "Hit the wall". The concerns, imo, are exaggerate. Economically India will do fine, at least for the next decade, assuming no unforseeable events like natural calamity or war derail the progress.
Agree but India does have Sakahari vs masahari, cow issues mainly. Issues related to Muslims will take a hell lot of time to resolve. Also recently in the UK a lot of Hindus went to Mosques and Muslim neighborhoods and were chanting and scaring everyone with 'Jai Shree Ram' slogan. The same thing happened in the USA also - related to bulldozers.
@@vinamrasinghai2339 you are actually very pessimistic on that..you do realise in the uk case where indian decided to rally was after fierce fight and issues with muslim neighborhood...you carefully ommited that muslim climbed on the temple..oh great i guess..
@@vinamrasinghai2339 "India does have Sakahari vs masahari, cow issues mainly. Issues related to Muslims will take a hell lot of time to resolve. Also recently in the UK a lot of Hindus went to Mosques and Muslim neighborhoods and were chanting and scaring everyone with 'Jai Shree Ram' slogan. " - You agree that the concerns are exaggerated but then go on to give examples that try to show that they aren't ?? .. It's a bit weird.
@@arunsar7893 let me give you examples - Literally every week we see violence, barbarism, inhumanity. People getting killed for being mistaken as Muslim, chants of mulle kate jayenge, gen0_cidal slogans on the streets of Delhi, in joggers parks, in markets. Boycott calls - Boycott of street vendors, shops, businesses, in jobs, even from hospitals, coaching centers. Many of them getting attacked, beaten up, threatened on live video. Kids being threatened and asked to chant Allah madarchod on video. Videos of Ms on road getting hit on purpose causing accident. Lynchings. Murders. Shootings. Bulldozing of houses, and the macabre celebrations on media and social media. Arrest of innocent (even of kids and 90yr olds) under NSA,UAPA. Police going inside neighborhoods and houses and destroying property. Attack on mosques, bulldozing of madarsas. Those who expose your lies and propaganda are also targeted, attacked, jailed. See any of it? People who criticize the PM or CM, get life imprisonment. Not a single media exists that utters a word of criticism against Modi. Violent rapists & baby killers in communal riots are pardoned by the govt. Actual saffron terrorists are elected as MPs by margins of 300K votes. Lynchers are garlanded. People who shoot at MPs like Owaisi are out in bail and openly threaten to do it again. Bulldozing of houses in lawless fashion. 10000+ arrested under NSA, UAPA. 4000+ cases of ED filed against opposition leaders. Every single day there is some CBI case against opposition leader. Sikhs doing Langar in Shaheen bagh arrested in NSA. Drama group members doing sit in protest arrested. Tribal activists, social workers & lawyers like Sudha Bharadwaj, Stan Swamy, various others arrested. Sonu Sood raided after he was made ambassador for some cause in AAP govt. There is not a single state opposition govt that isn't toppled or broken by use of every possible force. There is radio rawanda level communal incitement, on every medium, every channel, every day. And apparently this is not enough, we need more communalism for the daily fix of of the now radicalized masses. Billionaires from crony industries hoarding all the wealth, and leading to rise in inequality. What is happening in India under Modi right now is a level of evil that can match, if not exceed the worst of the worst. You see any of it? Acknowledge any of it?
Home ownership of parents will not act as wealth for the next generation if you have 3-4 kids. The best you can do in such a situation is to sell of the apartment and pay for the education of kids. On the other hand a couple with just 1-2 kids will really be able to transfer the apartment as an asset to the next generation. Pakistan should first focus on reducing population growth before anything else.
One thing, I am astounded by these two learned guys. They speak the reality. But whenever they discuss the Jihadi culture, how conveniently they forget the use of Terrorism and Jihadism by Pakistan inside Indian kashmir. How conveniently indeed. Straight jumping from 1989 Afghanistan to 9/11. They totally leave the kashmir terrorism part. They don't discuss the human tragedy unfolded in the state due to pakistan army jihadists. And this is why you only find scarce Indian supporters of peace with Pakistan. No acknowledgement. The jihadist culture would have ended in 1989. But your country used the same in Kashmir from 1990, until it gave them a blowback in the 2000s.
@@ThePakistanExperience No you did not. When Uzair spoke about LeT. there was no mention of its area of operations. About Hafiz Saeed, about Masood Azhar. You did not speak of LeT terrorism in Kashmir. there was no acknowledgement. Criticize Modi. I don't care. But, till you don't acknowledge your root policy problems, how it will get solved. And I know, everyone knows the reality, but. not ready to speak.
@@ThePakistanExperience Have you ever done a podcast on PTM. pashtun Tahfiz movement. Nobody in pak media, even Digital, would dare to cover them How are you independent then?
@@ThePakistanExperience I am just a common man, commenting my thoughts. I saw the problem in your podcast and mentioned it to you. You may dislike India, but the policy of jihadism in Kashmir from 1990s, has been the biggest roadblock and which will take decades to heal. And the lack of acknowledgment, even from people like you, who touch every base of Pakistani problems, but not this baffles me. In fact every podcaster of Pakistan, not only you. This Kashmir policy of jihadists and terrorists, has been the biggest roadblock for Pakistani state to progress. To sustain this Pakistani state had to keep on forming radicalism. You very well know, this is the simple reason, why nobody hears Pakistani view on kashmir on international stage.
@@ThePakistanExperience I have seen your earlier podcasts, and truthfully speaking, I am impressed by your presentation. I also feel, you people talk reality most of the time. But the terrorism in kashmir is till off books by most of your kind. There is still no acknowledgement let alone guilt about nurturing groups like LeT, JeM, Hizbul etc. Why Hafiz Saeed, lakhvi, Masood Azhar are still being encouraged. How these groups have perpetrated violence and killed innocents in India is still a highly censored subject. Well, nothing of what I say, will change. So peace.
@@ThePakistanExperience And one thing I can guarantee you. If not for terrorism in Kashmir since 1990, article 370 was not an issue for Indians. In fact, there would have been seldom protests by Indian public even if Kashmir was given more autonomy then envisaged under 370. But continous terrorism since 1990, has changed all that. Do u know Indians like me have to apply for Internal permit when we touchdown in north east States like Nagaland, Manipur. But have you seen a scene of protests from Hindi heartland of India, about this system. It's because of the same thing. Naga have been in ceasefire since 1997 and Manipur violence though more is still very much contained. They haven't targeted outside the state anyone, not even security guys.
Thank you for bringing in people jo humari ankhain b khulwa rahe hain but at the same time they're giving us hope that abi b is mulk me aqal rakhne walay or fikar karne walay log baki hain ❤️ Also commenting for YT's algorithm
Why it gets so painful for even our educated Pakistani scholars to discuss a single thing where india is successful? If you guys are honest, then talk about the radical Re-Islamization being done by IK, TLP etc and why the extremism and terrorism is on the rise again in Pakistan? You guys hardly .. hardly had the guts to talk about the military establishment who is root cause and sole culprit of everything wrong in our country?
When he said thier are two India. I was like dude you are 100% right. What is true about India is also false about India and what is false about India is also true about India. Here you will find the most intelligent people in the world, the kind of people you can not find anyone else but you will also come across the dumbest people. Here you will find girls in bikinis and short dresses but thier are also girls covered from top to bottom. You will find extremely religious people here but you will also find people who don't give a fuck to religion. Thier are always two Indias. We are somewhat stuck. We want to westernize ourselves and actually we are very westernized but at the same time we are not willing to give up on our roots and culture. Countries like china and south Korea have given up thier native culture but Indians are not willing to completely give up thier culture. For us it is a matter of pride. India was like this since antiquity. When I look at ancient India, I see a contrast. Sex and materialistic life is exalted. Books like kamasutra are written. Sex is glorified. Sex temples are made. Money is considered godess lakshmi. But at the same time, I see sects like buddhism and jainism where so much emphasis is given on non violence and monasticism. Sex is not celebrated in Buddhism and jainism. Monasticism and celibacy is celebrated. Then comes mediaeval age. Thier are instances of intolerance, destruction of temples, conversions but thier are also instances of tolerance and syncretism. Akbar, sufi chishtis, bhakti saints, Kabir etc are all examples of religious-social syncretism. As as someone who has studied history, I have a habit of drawing parallels between past and present. Vedas were composed on the banks of river Sindhu. Describing sindhu river they say that it is wild and ferocious, it is difficult to control. They appreciate sindhu but are also scared of it. When xuan-zang, a Chinese traveller came to India to collect Buddhist texts from Nalanda university, he literally drowned in sindhu because it's flow was si heavy. Babur also had difficulty in crossing Sindhu. He had to construct a Flotilla of boats to cross sindhu. The literal meaning of Sindhu is border and it was truly the border. It was only after crossing the Sindhu that India started. The history of Indian subcontinent is beautiful. Thier is a sense of romanticism in it. Though today we have changed, new political structures have evolved, new social cultural forms have emerged but the soul of India is still the same.
Soul of India is not the same any more.. Old india was something else, it was like an ocean, a large forest - it was majestic, magical, grand, a positive force in the world despite all our problems. That India is gone forever.
@@mrgyani well yup no-one even saying it's here..but that does give Idea why India is just not pakistan..the power is distributed to everyone..you can't have India without that while without power concentration you will not have pakistan
Left leaning initiatives need to be funded by corporate profits and middle class/rich people. So increasing those opportunities is important. Incidentally In the first four months of the PPP government of 2008-13, PMLN was part of the government and Ishaq Dar was the finance minister. He started the BISF program.
I’ve said this for a while now, paksitan can never be a normal country until it normalises and fosters a healthy positive relationship with India. Until that day, Pakistan will ALWAYS be a basket case.
What I mean by this is that the Pakistan state has made it a policy of turning the Pakistani people against the Indian people. It’s not a natural hatred. It’s put upon. Normalising relations with India means it has to shed its pan-Islamic ideology and accept its Indian heritage.
@@haroon420 its not put upon , its cultural hatred , which india which seems to be realising and dealing appropriatly only now ... till now we were fucking confused
@@prateekmahapatra1789 I also think that part you say of about India ‘finally realising’ is just the same side of another coin. You’re also being put upon. This is all plebeian revision. You (and I and most people) are speaking as if we have always had this great tradition of academia and analysis and being part of the conversation. The fact is that, historically the majority of common people (Muslim and non Muslim alike) were never part of the conversation. Were it not for education and the internet, these things would be left to academics. We now have Google experts who bring up old sins and introduce them into the politics of today. This is happening everywhere. We need to mindful of that.
@@haroon420 You make a great point about academia , nd you r actually realy right these voices from the masses r coming cuz of general education and also due to internet But what i was refering to was the absolute indecisiveness amongst the top most political leaders about the pakistan dialema , is it endemic or some bad blood due to partition and to an big extent regarding kashmir issue ...Now we certainly know that pak can never be a " just " a neighbour , it will always try to destalize india even if it simply lacks capability . Pak will continue to be an ass as along it exists , nd THIS IS PRECISLY WT I MEANT And about muslims its a reality that a chunck of them will feel more brotherly to the Muslim ummah than country , we have to live with it and accept the hard cold facts .
@@prateekmahapatra1789 it’s not about partition. The biggest affectees of partition were punjabis (Muslim and non-Muslim). They still hold longing for each other. The trouble really is between Hindus and Muslims. Hindus feel they were victimised by Muslims for about 1000 years and we need to make amends for this injustice. But what they’re not realising is that ‘those injustices’ were between the rulers. The common people on both sides were just collateral damage. When common Hindus speak of getting even, they’re getting even against the same body of people who had no voice back then or even today. Muslim side of the grievance is confused and stupid. Confused because they ditch their own heritage and chase heritage and glory from other people. If the Mughals ruled India. A poor Muslim farmer (like our family) in Punjab did not benefit. But when Ranjeet Singh ruled, this was the glory of Punjabis. That’s what Punjabi’s should celebrate. It’s also stupid for many other reasons but we know all about Pakistans problems. What more can I say that hasn’t already been said.
Totally disagree with your point that the developed world should give you grants.Why even they will care about you? First see your budget allocation. Most of it going in the defence. You should try to reduce that first and spend them in other developmental activities. I am a bit rude but this is fact. You should spend more in building infrastructure.
pakistani talk shit about usa france and europe and pakistan burn usa france israel india flag and they hate western country still they want money from western people
Come on guys!! Sitting in an Islamic country with minorities being persecuted, you keep talking about Fascisn in India . Typical - in your homeland you want insular thinking and narrow mindset ; your neighbour should be secular. Hypocritical and double standards. You are way off mark when making comparisons. The size of the two countries makes it hard to compare. Focus on saving yourselves
I like how comfortable they are shitting on others who are unwilling to give up any part of their privilege but when it comes to their own privilege and responsibility (uzair's American levels of consumption and shehzad's beef consumption) they are just the same as the ones they were name-calling. This even if you ignore (which one can't) the absolute ethical evil of torturing and killing animals for your taste.
Beautiful discussion. Unfortunately, this too was a discussion of some problems with either no or unrealistic solutions e.g. "we should do police reforms", why would the status quo do that?? 1:11:00 here is your answer, imho: Sustainable change can’t come unless the building block of society, the unit of the country, i.e. the common man doesn’t demand it. All else will fail. When the need will come from the grassroot level, then & only then will those in power feel the heat to change things. The million dollar question is how will this happen? There is no short cut. Spreading awareness about what is going on i.e. oligarchy/elite capture etc., just like you are doing, is the only way forward. Once ample people become aware over time, a critical mass will develop which then may bring the tipping point. Some of it is dependent on chance also which I equate to Will of Allah. To reach there, you should follow your passion of bringing awareness. Maybe you will be one of the many who nurtured this sapling which probably will grow tall enough to bear fruit for others to eat, but not you.
Awesome podcast!! Also, Shahzad do you mind painting the wall behind you guys. Those 100 Rs charts don’t do justice to the high quality rational discussion with amazing guests.
@@echosmith5256 and what's wrong with that? Modi isn't a ragingly communal hindutwa wadi? Literally every day, every week, every medium, every channel we have nothing but outrage, incitement, vilification on communal issues. Look up the comments from any Indian and you will get a gmilpse of that. Right now Indian Twitter is trending support for Dara Singh - the man who burnt alive a Christian missionary and his 2 kids, alive, in odisha. The man remorselessly radicalized an entire nation of 1.3B, just for his power and politics.
Can you cut and make a short clip from 01:55:00 onwards, the section about Gwadar. Wanna share with some friends who invested despite me telling them not to! Although their time horizon is 20-30 years.
Is podcast ma bh Ali Abdullah ki trha guest ki bat(Jo k host k opposite Hoti thi) kaat Ker apna moaqaf pesh KRny ki koshsh ki gai Lkn waqai uzair sahb Kum lafzon ma apna mafiuzameer bayan karnay ma yakta Han Uzair sahb balanced reviews le Ker aye Hats off
I am a BJP voter and many like me don't like their small politicians making bitter remarks or Hindutva politics which in itself is misunderstood by the both right and left wing. I voted for growth and they are doing that right now. They will stop getting my and other's vote if they became too much like the Hindu version of the Muslim league. For Indians, the economic development of India comes first not BJP. The Hindu Trolls that you see on the Internet are toothless keyboard monsters and they will not control anything. The majority of the Indian population is peace-loving and doesn't want hardships for Minorities. Our Minorities should also understand and clean their house and the Majority should stop mimicking Pakistan.
I don’t like how the host simply criticizes different parties for coming up with different names for essentially the same initiative, even though the programs were positive in nature such as Benazir/Ehsas Program. Who cares if PTI changed the name and the fact it may take credit away from PPP? One of the reasons why Pakistan is where it is today is due to lack of successive govts continuing policies that are actually good for long term growth. Meanwhile we’d rather play the blame game for the next 40 years just like we have with the last 40
Please note a major grammatical error. The word 'cost' does not have 'ed' when used in the past tense. There is no such word as "costed" that you used twice in the same sentence. Thank you for your great work, nonetheless.
don't mind but pakistani politicians had no vision. They just had to take care of 50% of Pakistanis, the rest are still in India. Imagine if complete migration had occurred and you had to take care of 400+ million people now. Chinese, Americans, and european were all on your side. Even now I think you get some preference in trade with the EU, which India never got. India not only has 1.3+ billion people, but its population density is almost 1.5 times of Pak. You had so much working in your favor compared to us, yet your leaders f**ked up.
I was binge watching Uzair's podcasts from last night , waiting for him to talk about his analysis on India and India's growth in future. I have heard him talk about Indian progress profoundly and then suddenly but when a saw him taking 180 turn and talking about Hindutva, while generalising it and giving out false propaganda majorly projected by the very left side of the political spectrum. The vote percentage really ? Aren't you supposed to talk about policies and not vote bank politics ?
@@parthparth433 i guess you never watched him on Twitter or his previous podcast.. definitely gonna be having views against Hindutava and all..but has covered good thing in Indian system..he never overshadowed India's growth story over hindutva one
@@abhaypatel4292 Agreed. But his view of 'Hindutva' is too exaggerated. For example, In this podcast he said only 35 to 38% people of India voted for Hindutva. That's such a wrong characterization. The assumption that people who voted for BJP only did it because of BJP's polarization is absurd.
@@arunsar7893 lol 🤣🤣🤣 go and check india's GDP GROWTH RATE since 2016 . It has been consistently *DECLINING*. India's average GDP growth rate from 2010-2020 was just 5% . Less than even Bangladesh. . Indian goods exports were $300B in 2010. In 2020 10 years later Indian exports were $285B. So in reality india has been a stagnant economy for past 10 years. Goods exports growth rate of india was just 1% from 2010-2020 Vs 3% of Bangladesh. Go and check bangladesh's textile industry exports. It has beaten india.
At esten part of india (Odisha,WB) we face more 3x stroms floods than Pakistan .but we always face it and survive it like nothing happened .because of ISRO forecast satalites highly accurates and flood and disaster management system in Odisha..you guys are also look into it
They have alla and jasba, they dont need Isro or education..
They’ll blame Yahudi and nasrani for those too. They haven’t learned from 2010 floods. For Disaster management they have simple formula: Disaster+Donation= Dollars.
Bhai odisha lokanku ta cyclone ra aadat padigalani🥲😂
Orissa has seen a fantastic effort by all stakeholders; people, local state government and the central government. Cyclones with wind speeds of upto 170 km per hour do not result in deaths; in extreme cases deaths in single digits. Salute all concerned.
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In Orissa there was a super cyclone in 2000 where 10k people died. Since then got formed a national disaster relief force. They are very well equipped for relief of all kinds and also the various agencies from weather dept to police local , state and central departments have improved coordination. Not ideal but much better. Similarly Bangladesh used to have thousands of deaths in floods which is now reduced in last 2 decades even while cyclones have increases. Please see where the administration is failing in Pakistan- what has happened is very sad indeed.
Yaar dunno why but I find Uzair so easy to listen to for long stretches of time! Pata nahi kaise he manages to make jargon perfectly understandable! Even though I mostly disagree with his econo-political alignment, he's hands down my favorite economist Thanks for bringing him on; jeetay raho:)
@@ThePakistanExperience couldn’t agree more
What don't you agree with? Which side do you lean in economics?
Our Banks are financing cars, instead of lending to small or medium businesses. Bangladesh is an excellent example where banks provide finances at micro level, encouraging enterpreneurship at micro level.
Read about Mudra loan
@Aham Brahmasmi modi is already know this he dont need to learn anywhere
@Aham Brahmasmi modi is himself is business minded person he dont need to learn from anywhere
@@YTworld-69 but still indian SMEs aren't growing at all
@@mayurkanth6987 bsdk yt pe time waste krega bahar kya ho rha hain kaise samjhega?
I’m from India 🇮🇳, I really like your podcasts. Keep up the good work 👍
Alhamdulila.. a Great show .. great host, competent Guest and diverse discussion. I’m Pakistan we have so many economy experts, from different ages & financial expertise, but in 75 years, our country is on downward spiral, while we can’t even compare with Bangladesh, let alone India who is in totally big 5 giants of the world. Even though the discussion was amazing, but when it comes to discussing success of india, our default “Mutalya-e-Pakistan” imbibed mindset come into action. We don’t have audacity to accept the reality how fast india has grown in last 10 years, but our scholars & intellects are muddled in 70s . Our collective wisdom is inversely proportional to the quantum leaps in science & technology.
No hope for our country in near future unless the chronic establishment disinfects itself from political engineering.
Pakistan Paindabad
Pakistan has crossed the point of no return. The steep currency devaluation and the natural disaster that followed has really pushed it over the edge. I pray for the common people of the country and sincerely hope that the Govt comes to its senses and immediately intervene to prevent hardships on its people.
@@ibratnak you are right, Indians sound delusional and prejudiced when they talk of Pakistan economy.
But Asia cup you lost one match and won one match with india. If we had carry-over of points from group stage, India would be in finals.
@@ibratnak no I think you have a very good team now. Earlier Virat & Rohit were #1 and #2 batsmen and Bumrah was one of the top ranked bowlers. Now your Babar and Rizwan are 1,2 and you have bowlers like Naseem, Shaheen. So you are at the same place India was few years ago.
@@ibratnak you are comparing cricket with economy wow bhai tum log ki baat sunke darr lagta hai kitne dililusional ho
@@ibratnak No sugar daddy is coming to save you sweetheart. At best, you're a gun for hire; at worst, you're a not-so-fancy pr0st!tut3.
@@ibratnak thats the maturity level. Im so happy. We can offer many more such losses to you considering the mentality of jihadis on self destruction mode. 1 abhinandan and some cricket matches will go a long way to make pakistan super power.
Uzair yunus sir is amazing..... Great podcast again. Hope it will be extremely helpful for Pakistan. Kudos to shehjad sir
'Sir'
Hai bhagawan! why are Indians such cuckks!!
I read Uzair Younus article on Mundra Port in Dawn. Very good article.
Since I'm an RSS member, Uzair's knowledge about Hindutva, RSS is limited. He's looking at RSS from Left, West glasses. One of the best books to know about RSS is Walter Andersons - The Brotherhood in Saffron
pakistanis, no matter how well -educated technically, will ALWAYS be blind-sided when it comes to Hindus and India. These clowns don't have the slightest clue of what Hindutva is. If Hindutva is "fascist", so was the muslim league and its use of political agency to carve out a separate nation.
Or maybe he is spot on about RSS..
@@mrgyani That's the problem.
RSS trains SS in shaka and then SS go to different social field and work voluntarily.
In my knowledge, it is a very unique organisation and no other org does that.
@@aanakrukavi I am against RSS but if RSS can disown Bajrang dal and Hindu Mahasabha. It can improve it's image seperately. But supporting extremists like Bajrang Dal and Hindu Mahasabha makes them one.
Kudos to both shehzad and Uzair for an amicable discussion on political economy. Being a patriotic Pakistani American, I can’t understand the judgemental and preconceived notions our people have about this BJP Hindutva thing in every discussion? Only & only is Pakistanis are the one who try to portray as leader of Islamic countries and we act like torch bearers for islamophobia .. while forgetting what crimes our state and subjects are doing in the name blasphemy. No other Muslim country has such radicalized and extremist population as ours, but we as a country rank worst in corruption, judiciary, education , health, sports and passports etc. it’s not only sad but frustrating that we are trying our best to show india in despicable way. Just the fact that being a nuclear country, we are begging for 1 billion dollars to run our state, and still have the guts to call out india who have 600 billion in reserves. I too was infected by such mentality unless I moved to USA -Canada as undergrad and then confronted the shocking truths and the lies we propagate back in Pakistan.
Absolutely fantastic points and I can’t agree more with you.
But india's economy itself is in decline due to hate politics of BJP
@@mayurkanth6987 abe jahil economist ,, corona ke samay me itna acha growth rate rakha hai ,, ab kya chahiye
@@livesports3096 lol 🤣🤣🤣 sirf corona nhi. 2016 se dekho india ki gdp crash ho gyi hai. 2016 mein 8% thi 2019 mein 3.4% 2020 mein -6. 6% . India ki GDP pichle 6 saalo se CRASH krr rhi hai. Average growth rate under bjp is just 5% from 2014-2022 Vs 8%+ from 2004-2014
@@mayurkanth6987 bhi tu jaake youtube pe search kar india today ki video hai ,,,, ki avg gdp growth is more in modi time than in congress times
As always, Uzair Younis is the best ever. Always a pleasure to listen to him and learn so much. TPE is one podcast that should be compulsory listening for everyone.
He is also a PTI agent
Literally!! This is called a show❤️❤️ when u switch on tv debates going on u did this u did that n no come out !! Shazd bro u doin great job !! Mking us proud that we also hve intellectuals like u !! But really disappointed with eco policies of this country !! Is eco character will b the solution or wht else ?? 😩😩
My only hope for pakistan is people like you. I hope and pray some miracle happens. Loved every second of your discussion and agree with everything you said
What I love about your podcasts is the fact its not about taking sides and proving someone wrong. Its about envisioning a brighter Pakistan. You're doing an awesome job Shehzad! Keep it up!
and you're definitely not 27 ;)
Great podcast. Uzair is articulate and knows his stuff. Thank you Shehzad
Very nice podcast. India’s growth story started after 1991 LPG reform, done by the rightist congress, pushed by IMF, before that congress was very leftist. Around the same period, Hindutva started taking pace in India (Babri demolition, 1992) triggered by pak-sponsored Islamic terrorism, (many blasts, pandits genocide 1990). Now after 2014, Hindutva started taking over India's foreign ideological mental slavery (Islamic, colonialist, communist) and getting back to its Hindutva/sanatani roots…though foreign ideologies, especially communist/leftist, are still dominant in India (couldn’t let farm law passed, one of the best reforms of Hindutva India). Now if you notice, the most painful economic reforms and infra transformations are done by Hindutva India (Atal & Modi)..I would argue, that coming back of Hindutva/real India is beneficial. Also for Pak, H-India seems good, as pak is trying to come out of Kashmir obsession and trying to move towards geo-economic. SCO, Mod called for free transit policy, Modi the Hindutva leader asking liberal Pakistani leader for mobility and connectivity. The thing is People have no idea about Hindutva, it’s totally opposite of Abrahamic religions. You can say its an advanced version of polytheistic greeks that led western roman empire to get out of Abrahamic dark ages when these greeko polytheistic liberal tolerant scholars ran to western empire after the fall of Constantinople. Hindutva is the advanced libertarian philosophy (titis were freed 1000s of yrs ago, brahm is seen in everything, so much studies were done on sex & kamasutra was created, art music dance is related to spiritual evolution, sculptures depicting love carved on temple, 100s of different philosophies, millions of gods, etc. etc. there are many more but does it sound opposite to Islam or Abrahamic religion) the ultimate philosophy of Hindutva is Moksha (true freedom or liberty), not slavery of any god, the realization of god/brahm in yourself - does it sound like empowerment!! the more India move towards its root, the more liberal, free, tolerant, scientific, prosperous, educated, curious it becomes…not only economic freedom, also see recent foreign policy, India been playing the most liberal, free, neutral foreign policy.. Hindutva is gonna disappoint to even liberal Pakistani until they come out of their foreign mental slavery (leftist/communist, Islamic, colonists) and come back to their Hindutva/sanatani roots. I guess it will take another 25 yrs when India starts leading the world. Hopefully, it may give you a little different perspective of Hindutva, I am working on a very interesting book. Thanks and Good Luck guys!!
No use, I have yet to encounter a Pakistani who DOESN'T equate hindutva with Islamism! When things go further bad, maybe more soul searching will happen!
hindutva is copy italian facism. Read saavrkar, golwalkar and hedgewar
Hey look it has nothing to do with ideology rather a strong government and intent..when this bjp gonna rule for let's say 20 years they too gonna go congress path of power grabbing by riots and all due to lack of motivation and if the devlopment slows down..
Look at your self in Modi's first tenure the most controversial thing was CAA/NRC that too at end of tenure..while numerous religious controversy have taken in just last 3 years...
Reason??..the reason lies that when modi right wing fails to put a success in economy (they loose support of economic right wing voters) ...
To concentrate the narrative around themselves they left with no choice but actually having religious controversy here and there...
Much like congress who when failed severly in socialist model they targetted buisnessman and had Hindu Muslim riots for concentration of ideas and votes around them
@@71espn no wonder idiot.. considering the fact that this idea was laid down during the times of khilafat moment in India under British supression.. wonder what someone will even think when your second largest group of people is marching over religious discomfort of Khalifa rather than independence.... hindutva was always against this idea.. their mindset was like wherever muslim lives their loyalty is towards the face of saudia not to their own homeland.. where an issue outside of India will influence India's population..
However things have changed a lot from that Times..today it's better to assimilate.. however due to lallo chappo of congress muslims in India don't have a vocal left wing whixh demand reforms..
If you need a right wing government to abolish things like triple talaq (in which supreme court decision was overruled by parliament cause of pressure of fundamentalist) you know you have severe probelm
@@71espn Hindutva is going back to the roots
PKR to USD at time of this podcast was about 240, and they discussed "will not strengthen, bit on higher side right now". Now, in Sep 2023, it is well above 300 and long term forecast is about 400 plus in summer of 2024.
Such a good conversation to listen to and learn from 👏🏽
Excellent episode. loved how the conversation flowwwed. As a LUMS alum myself (quite a few yrs before you guys), it felt like I was sitting and listening to my own friends. Maza aa gaya. The way you talk about these topics feels like being home.
I tried so hard to find any sense in your complex structural comments
pakistanis are something else man. Humare yaha itne bar flood aye, apne dimag me kabhi nai aya global warming me reparations mangna
Keep bringing Uzair again and again. Binging his episodes
This guy is brutally honest. Governance is the key . Nobody will give you free money. Be realistic, be prepared for future.
A Great discussion gone awry by the end. Whatever decent analysis we enjoyed for the better half of this podcast, but in the end the house of cards called and once this rhetorical music if Hindutva BJP and risks if Adani started .. it all came crashing back that no matter how educated we are, our hardwired mentality against India came into action. If we can’t accept the success of our enemy, we will keep begging from the world and an extremist like Maulana Imran Ahmed khan Niazi will infuse more hatred, polarity and extremism.
At least some pakistani makes sense😆
They are absolutely right about hindutwa and bjp. If you live in an eco chamber where you reject all criticism from secular liberals, and only feed on Modi bhakti day in day out - that is your problem, not theirs.
In fact what they said was pretty mild - what is happening in India right now under that man is far worse.
i just turn your podcast on and go for a 15km cycle. This is my daily routine and I literally enjoy it ...
Uzair bhai, one of my favorites from Pakistan.
Dear Shahezad you had done your best presentation so far made speechless your guest many times.
Finally it's here, gonna start now
All roads including highways must be motoring friendly. For a smooth Traffic flow, smart engineering is required to minimize blockades, and bottlenecks on rural and urban traffic. That can save fuel consumption by 20 to 30 percent.
1:51:00 India is also working on connecting UP to Myanmar and thiland with 1360km highway....by next year it will be completed...then it will be extended to Vietnam and Laos
India has road as well rail links to Nepal and Bangladesh...and is also working on building a rail link to Bangladesh and Vietnam which are under construction...
then the plans are to connect to China Malaysia and Singapore by both road and rail network....so things are going good in East...the problem is just Pakistan.... Afghanistan India both wants to connect but pakistan is the only problem in region.
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India dropped that idea a long time ago.
@@vinamrasinghai2339 Which idea?
@@vinamrasinghai2339 hmm nope..but definitely a regime change in Myanmar is a setback
Admire the host a lot. A man of many talents and makes the guests very comfortable....helps them open up!
I love your podcast. I have learned a lot and wish I would ever come on the show :)
Two of the best men sharing one screen..fan moment for me !
Good analysis, hope elite and establishment learn something from it
Hey navin sir what's your views moodi and Hindutava India?
superb episode Shehzad. Good to have young people like Uzair Younus , with brilliant and thinking minds. It is such a rarity these days.
1:52:38 ...the thing you said..well definitely India would face the heat one day but it doesn't mean that India will be the next pakistan....for example when the entire India have modi wave...the Rajputana rajasthan voted for congress..the aap is in punjab and the hidutvawadi Maharashtra voted for NCP....the south has it's own parties...while Bengal is with some another...
The reality is India actually don't have many right wing parties for competition and neither bjp performs that good in state elections....the state control is extremely weak cause power runs down to states...
Remember the farm bills..it was just one small state of 2.6 crores.. punjab..the power dynamics are completely different than a power center Rawalpindi for say which is ultimate power authority...
Also Indian public mood shifts too..for example the State of gujrat..the modi is from there.. what's happening AAP is actually entering the state and gaining votes ....
Modi is needed cause without a strong central government India isn't going to have reforms.. everytime a reform comes the protests for it are enormous..
Also uzair i didn't wonder mentioned the muslim radicalism in India and how muslim have the most fundamental voter base..
You need a right wing party'to remove triple talaq..??..
@Just$ i am seeing him as a good opposition for now... dynamics would be intresting to what happens after 2029 ..
Really most intellectual enriching platform from Pakistan. Keep up the good job
Pakistan is facinated with Nayak movie 😃
@Just$ 😃😃😃👍👍👍
what an insightful discussion, Keep it up.
Great discussion well informative worth watching to understand the truth
itna khatarnak discussion , remain be safe .
2 seconds given to the most important question(Massive Population growth) which has been pushing Pakistan back against its regional competitors tells you everything you need to know about this 2 hours podcast.
Amen.
very informative ... more Uzair we demand
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We need such kind of economist studies. Allah Pakistan ma har saal 200 level k economist ban jae na. Phr Pakistan ka faida ho ga
1:23:55 Begins SAD moment for Shehzad 😂😂😂
Shehzad is taking every single criticism on Sharif and Zardari Family so personally LOL
1:51:43 I don't think Radicalism is or willing be a big enough issue for India to "Hit the wall". The concerns, imo, are exaggerate. Economically India will do fine, at least for the next decade, assuming no unforseeable events like natural calamity or war derail the progress.
Agree but India does have Sakahari vs masahari, cow issues mainly. Issues related to Muslims will take a hell lot of time to resolve. Also recently in the UK a lot of Hindus went to Mosques and Muslim neighborhoods and were chanting and scaring everyone with 'Jai Shree Ram' slogan. The same thing happened in the USA also - related to bulldozers.
@@vinamrasinghai2339 you are actually very pessimistic on that..you do realise in the uk case where indian decided to rally was after fierce fight and issues with muslim neighborhood...you carefully ommited that muslim climbed on the temple..oh great i guess..
@@vinamrasinghai2339 "India does have Sakahari vs masahari, cow issues mainly. Issues related to Muslims will take a hell lot of time to resolve. Also recently in the UK a lot of Hindus went to Mosques and Muslim neighborhoods and were chanting and scaring everyone with 'Jai Shree Ram' slogan. " - You agree that the concerns are exaggerated but then go on to give examples that try to show that they aren't ?? .. It's a bit weird.
@@arunsar7893 let me give you examples -
Literally every week we see violence, barbarism, inhumanity. People getting killed for being mistaken as Muslim, chants of mulle kate jayenge, gen0_cidal slogans on the streets of Delhi, in joggers parks, in markets. Boycott calls - Boycott of street vendors, shops, businesses, in jobs, even from hospitals, coaching centers. Many of them getting attacked, beaten up, threatened on live video. Kids being threatened and asked to chant Allah madarchod on video. Videos of Ms on road getting hit on purpose causing accident. Lynchings. Murders. Shootings. Bulldozing of houses, and the macabre celebrations on media and social media. Arrest of innocent (even of kids and 90yr olds) under NSA,UAPA. Police going inside neighborhoods and houses and destroying property. Attack on mosques, bulldozing of madarsas. Those who expose your lies and propaganda are also targeted, attacked, jailed.
See any of it?
People who criticize the PM or CM, get life imprisonment. Not a single media exists that utters a word of criticism against Modi. Violent rapists & baby killers in communal riots are pardoned by the govt. Actual saffron terrorists are elected as MPs by margins of 300K votes. Lynchers are garlanded. People who shoot at MPs like Owaisi are out in bail and openly threaten to do it again. Bulldozing of houses in lawless fashion.
10000+ arrested under NSA, UAPA. 4000+ cases of ED filed against opposition leaders. Every single day there is some CBI case against opposition leader. Sikhs doing Langar in Shaheen bagh arrested in NSA. Drama group members doing sit in protest arrested. Tribal activists, social workers & lawyers like Sudha Bharadwaj, Stan Swamy, various others arrested. Sonu Sood raided after he was made ambassador for some cause in AAP govt.
There is not a single state opposition govt that isn't toppled or broken by use of every possible force.
There is radio rawanda level communal incitement, on every medium, every channel, every day. And apparently this is not enough, we need more communalism for the daily fix of of the now radicalized masses.
Billionaires from crony industries hoarding all the wealth, and leading to rise in inequality.
What is happening in India under Modi right now is a level of evil that can match, if not exceed the worst of the worst.
You see any of it? Acknowledge any of it?
Home ownership of parents will not act as wealth for the next generation if you have 3-4 kids. The best you can do in such a situation is to sell of the apartment and pay for the education of kids. On the other hand a couple with just 1-2 kids will really be able to transfer the apartment as an asset to the next generation. Pakistan should first focus on reducing population growth before anything else.
One thing, I am astounded by these two learned guys. They speak the reality. But whenever they discuss the Jihadi culture, how conveniently they forget the use of Terrorism and Jihadism by Pakistan inside Indian kashmir. How conveniently indeed. Straight jumping from 1989 Afghanistan to 9/11. They totally leave the kashmir terrorism part. They don't discuss the human tragedy unfolded in the state due to pakistan army jihadists. And this is why you only find scarce Indian supporters of peace with Pakistan. No acknowledgement. The jihadist culture would have ended in 1989. But your country used the same in Kashmir from 1990, until it gave them a blowback in the 2000s.
@@ThePakistanExperience No you did not. When Uzair spoke about LeT. there was no mention of its area of operations. About Hafiz Saeed, about Masood Azhar. You did not speak of LeT terrorism in Kashmir. there was no acknowledgement. Criticize Modi. I don't care. But, till you don't acknowledge your root policy problems, how it will get solved. And I know, everyone knows the reality, but. not ready to speak.
@@ThePakistanExperience Have you ever done a podcast on PTM. pashtun Tahfiz movement. Nobody in pak media, even Digital, would dare to cover them How are you independent then?
@@ThePakistanExperience I am just a common man, commenting my thoughts. I saw the problem in your podcast and mentioned it to you. You may dislike India, but the policy of jihadism in Kashmir from 1990s, has been the biggest roadblock and which will take decades to heal. And the lack of acknowledgment, even from people like you, who touch every base of Pakistani problems, but not this baffles me. In fact every podcaster of Pakistan, not only you. This Kashmir policy of jihadists and terrorists, has been the biggest roadblock for Pakistani state to progress. To sustain this Pakistani state had to keep on forming radicalism. You very well know, this is the simple reason, why nobody hears Pakistani view on kashmir on international stage.
@@ThePakistanExperience I have seen your earlier podcasts, and truthfully speaking, I am impressed by your presentation. I also feel, you people talk reality most of the time. But the terrorism in kashmir is till off books by most of your kind. There is still no acknowledgement let alone guilt about nurturing groups like LeT, JeM, Hizbul etc. Why Hafiz Saeed, lakhvi, Masood Azhar are still being encouraged. How these groups have perpetrated violence and killed innocents in India is still a highly censored subject. Well, nothing of what I say, will change. So peace.
@@ThePakistanExperience And one thing I can guarantee you. If not for terrorism in Kashmir since 1990, article 370 was not an issue for Indians. In fact, there would have been seldom protests by Indian public even if Kashmir was given more autonomy then envisaged under 370. But continous terrorism since 1990, has changed all that. Do u know Indians like me have to apply for Internal permit when we touchdown in north east States like Nagaland, Manipur. But have you seen a scene of protests from Hindi heartland of India, about this system. It's because of the same thing. Naga have been in ceasefire since 1997 and Manipur violence though more is still very much contained. They haven't targeted outside the state anyone, not even security guys.
Thank you for bringing in people jo humari ankhain b khulwa rahe hain but at the same time they're giving us hope that abi b is mulk me aqal rakhne walay or fikar karne walay log baki hain ❤️
Also commenting for YT's algorithm
ADDICTED WITH YOUR PODCAST, MA FVRT UZAR
This podcast should be taught in schools/colleges
Thank you for this intellectual podcast.
Very enlightening convo...thankyou shehzad. Time well utilized
Why it gets so painful for even our educated Pakistani scholars to discuss a single thing where india is successful? If you guys are honest, then talk about the radical Re-Islamization being done by IK, TLP etc and why the extremism and terrorism is on the rise again in Pakistan? You guys hardly .. hardly had the guts to talk about the military establishment who is root cause and sole culprit of everything wrong in our country?
Fantastic points
They always do.. Listen to their podcasts first.
Meanwhile can you show us where you have ever criticized hindutwa in India ?
When he said thier are two India. I was like dude you are 100% right. What is true about India is also false about India and what is false about India is also true about India. Here you will find the most intelligent people in the world, the kind of people you can not find anyone else but you will also come across the dumbest people. Here you will find girls in bikinis and short dresses but thier are also girls covered from top to bottom. You will find extremely religious people here but you will also find people who don't give a fuck to religion. Thier are always two Indias. We are somewhat stuck. We want to westernize ourselves and actually we are very westernized but at the same time we are not willing to give up on our roots and culture. Countries like china and south Korea have given up thier native culture but Indians are not willing to completely give up thier culture. For us it is a matter of pride. India was like this since antiquity. When I look at ancient India, I see a contrast. Sex and materialistic life is exalted. Books like kamasutra are written. Sex is glorified. Sex temples are made. Money is considered godess lakshmi. But at the same time, I see sects like buddhism and jainism where so much emphasis is given on non violence and monasticism. Sex is not celebrated in Buddhism and jainism. Monasticism and celibacy is celebrated.
Then comes mediaeval age. Thier are instances of intolerance, destruction of temples, conversions but thier are also instances of tolerance and syncretism. Akbar, sufi chishtis, bhakti saints, Kabir etc are all examples of religious-social syncretism.
As as someone who has studied history, I have a habit of drawing parallels between past and present.
Vedas were composed on the banks of river Sindhu. Describing sindhu river they say that it is wild and ferocious, it is difficult to control. They appreciate sindhu but are also scared of it. When xuan-zang, a Chinese traveller came to India to collect Buddhist texts from Nalanda university, he literally drowned in sindhu because it's flow was si heavy. Babur also had difficulty in crossing Sindhu. He had to construct a Flotilla of boats to cross sindhu.
The literal meaning of Sindhu is border and it was truly the border. It was only after crossing the Sindhu that India started.
The history of Indian subcontinent is beautiful. Thier is a sense of romanticism in it. Though today we have changed, new political structures have evolved, new social cultural forms have emerged but the soul of India is still the same.
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It's an old saying - "Whatever can justifiably said to be true about India... the opposite is also true."
Soul of India is not the same any more..
Old india was something else, it was like an ocean, a large forest - it was majestic, magical, grand, a positive force in the world despite all our problems. That India is gone forever.
@@mrgyani well yup no-one even saying it's here..but that does give Idea why India is just not pakistan..the power is distributed to everyone..you can't have India without that while without power concentration you will not have pakistan
That's good man, If you were indian podcaster you could indeed owned a media house 👌👌👌
loads of love
Left leaning initiatives need to be funded by corporate profits and middle class/rich people. So increasing those opportunities is important.
Incidentally In the first four months of the PPP government of 2008-13, PMLN was part of the government and Ishaq Dar was the finance minister. He started the BISF program.
I’ve said this for a while now, paksitan can never be a normal country until it normalises and fosters a healthy positive relationship with India. Until that day, Pakistan will ALWAYS be a basket case.
What I mean by this is that the Pakistan state has made it a policy of turning the Pakistani people against the Indian people. It’s not a natural hatred. It’s put upon.
Normalising relations with India means it has to shed its pan-Islamic ideology and accept its Indian heritage.
@@haroon420 its not put upon , its cultural hatred , which india which seems to be realising and dealing appropriatly only now ... till now we were fucking confused
@@prateekmahapatra1789 I also think that part you say of about India ‘finally realising’ is just the same side of another coin. You’re also being put upon.
This is all plebeian revision. You (and I and most people) are speaking as if we have always had this great tradition of academia and analysis and being part of the conversation.
The fact is that, historically the majority of common people (Muslim and non Muslim alike) were never part of the conversation.
Were it not for education and the internet, these things would be left to academics. We now have Google experts who bring up old sins and introduce them into the politics of today. This is happening everywhere. We need to mindful of that.
@@haroon420 You make a great point about academia , nd you r actually realy right these voices from the masses r coming cuz of general education and also due to internet
But what i was refering to was the absolute indecisiveness amongst the top most political leaders about the pakistan dialema , is it endemic or some bad blood due to partition and to an big extent regarding kashmir issue ...Now we certainly know that pak can never be a " just " a neighbour , it will always try to destalize india even if it simply lacks capability . Pak will continue to be an ass as along it exists , nd THIS IS PRECISLY WT I MEANT
And about muslims its a reality that a chunck of them will feel more brotherly to the Muslim ummah than country , we have to live with it and accept the hard cold facts .
@@prateekmahapatra1789 it’s not about partition. The biggest affectees of partition were punjabis (Muslim and non-Muslim). They still hold longing for each other.
The trouble really is between Hindus and Muslims. Hindus feel they were victimised by Muslims for about 1000 years and we need to make amends for this injustice.
But what they’re not realising is that ‘those injustices’ were between the rulers. The common people on both sides were just collateral damage. When common Hindus speak of getting even, they’re getting even against the same body of people who had no voice back then or even today.
Muslim side of the grievance is confused and stupid. Confused because they ditch their own heritage and chase heritage and glory from other people. If the Mughals ruled India. A poor Muslim farmer (like our family) in Punjab did not benefit. But when Ranjeet Singh ruled, this was the glory of Punjabis. That’s what Punjabi’s should celebrate.
It’s also stupid for many other reasons but we know all about Pakistans problems. What more can I say that hasn’t already been said.
Excellent podcast
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Totally disagree with your point that the developed world should give you grants.Why even they will care about you? First see your budget allocation. Most of it going in the defence. You should try to reduce that first and spend them in other developmental activities. I am a bit rude but this is fact. You should spend more in building infrastructure.
pakistani talk shit about usa france and europe and pakistan burn usa france israel india flag and they hate western country still they want money from western people
@The Pakistan Experience. Sir have you created any FB group for your UA-cam audience?
nice to see him again
when bhutto teared that paper up during that speech that paper had nothing written on it🤣
It’s so depressing watching this !!! The future of a nation discussing why the nation will not exist in the future
One of the excellent
Come on guys!!
Sitting in an Islamic country with minorities being persecuted, you keep talking about Fascisn in India .
Typical - in your homeland you want insular thinking and narrow mindset ; your neighbour should be secular.
Hypocritical and double standards.
You are way off mark when making comparisons. The size of the two countries makes it hard to compare.
Focus on saving yourselves
All camera angles blurry. Wasn't the same in your earlier podcasts. Nonetheless, quality podcast can't wait to finish it
@@ThePakistanExperience Thank you, TPE loyal listener.
I like how comfortable they are shitting on others who are unwilling to give up any part of their privilege but when it comes to their own privilege and responsibility (uzair's American levels of consumption and shehzad's beef consumption) they are just the same as the ones they were name-calling.
This even if you ignore (which one can't) the absolute ethical evil of torturing and killing animals for your taste.
India khud exporter h beef Ka
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@@muhammadali-pu2wg and...??
You can build for eventualities that become a pattern.
Amazing podcast once again. Uzair looks different in studio
Beautiful discussion. Unfortunately, this too was a discussion of some problems with either no or unrealistic solutions e.g. "we should do police reforms", why would the status quo do that??
1:11:00 here is your answer, imho:
Sustainable change can’t come unless the building block of society, the unit of the country, i.e. the common man doesn’t demand it. All else will fail. When the need will come from the grassroot level, then & only then will those in power feel the heat to change things. The million dollar question is how will this happen? There is no short cut. Spreading awareness about what is going on i.e. oligarchy/elite capture etc., just like you are doing, is the only way forward.
Once ample people become aware over time, a critical mass will develop which then may bring the tipping point. Some of it is dependent on chance also which I equate to Will of Allah. To reach there, you should follow your passion of bringing awareness. Maybe you will be one of the many who nurtured this sapling which probably will grow tall enough to bear fruit for others to eat, but not you.
watching TPE podcast as I watched Netflix seasons
Awesome podcast!!
Also, Shahzad do you mind painting the wall behind you guys. Those 100 Rs charts don’t do justice to the high quality rational discussion with amazing guests.
@@ThePakistanExperience got it!
@@alizaman239 Great point Ali the studio is very distracting. Very odd background for a podcast studio
After listening junaid's podcast..I heard this podcast..... with wall u need to change sound system also ....
This economist guy should be working with our lot....will fit like a glove! Has certainly got a mumbaikar temperament!
We should utilise that Ahmadi fellow Atif Miyan who was thrown out by Imran govt
@@JBande Atif Mian is deep in the "omg hindutva so bad" camp. I don't even want to get started with how hypocritical that stance is
@@echosmith5256 and what's wrong with that? Modi isn't a ragingly communal hindutwa wadi?
Literally every day, every week, every medium, every channel we have nothing but outrage, incitement, vilification on communal issues. Look up the comments from any Indian and you will get a gmilpse of that. Right now Indian Twitter is trending support for Dara Singh - the man who burnt alive a Christian missionary and his 2 kids, alive, in odisha.
The man remorselessly radicalized an entire nation of 1.3B, just for his power and politics.
@Kraken Thunder kuch saal mein pata chal hi jayega kya zyada badhiya hai
@Kraken Thunder 1990 mein pak better thha aaj India better hai.
why not talk abou islamist aggresive mindset or terrorist mindset
Can you cut and make a short clip from 01:55:00 onwards, the section about Gwadar. Wanna share with some friends who invested despite me telling them not to! Although their time horizon is 20-30 years.
Shukar he uzair bhai ap ne mic change kiya. sachi bht kharab awaz thi pehlay.
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Oh sorry men smjha the k Pakistanomy he. Btw thank you for this podcast.
Is podcast ma bh Ali Abdullah ki trha guest ki bat(Jo k host k opposite Hoti thi) kaat Ker apna moaqaf pesh KRny ki koshsh ki gai
Lkn waqai uzair sahb Kum lafzon ma apna mafiuzameer bayan karnay ma yakta Han
Uzair sahb balanced reviews le Ker aye
Hats off
@@ThePakistanExperience 👍
Finally
I am a BJP voter and many like me don't like their small politicians making bitter remarks or Hindutva politics which in itself is misunderstood by the both right and left wing. I voted for growth and they are doing that right now. They will stop getting my and other's vote if they became too much like the Hindu version of the Muslim league. For Indians, the economic development of India comes first not BJP. The Hindu Trolls that you see on the Internet are toothless keyboard monsters and they will not control anything. The majority of the Indian population is peace-loving and doesn't want hardships for Minorities. Our Minorities should also understand and clean their house and the Majority should stop mimicking Pakistan.
IK is the man who will undo pakistan
Bangladeshis and Oriya’s suffer floods every year for centuries . Pakistan suffers one flood and all hell breaks loose.
What is the youtube throttle issue Uzair mentions during the QnA section. He mentions some guy called Faizan. Can you share a link for this video.
Bhai day by day content quality badhate samay visual quality Kam karne ke pichhe kya raaj he?
Very thoughtful discussion. Greetings from #China . Kindly discuss #CPEC again with a good expert. MUSHAHID Syed will be a good choice
5% growth for 10 years will not change anything in Pakistan. With the kind of population growth Pakistan has it needs atleast 8% yoy growth.
Obama s partly influence was because of his physical personality & for leaders that is an important or an essential part of being an influencer.
I don’t like how the host simply criticizes different parties for coming up with different names for essentially the same initiative, even though the programs were positive in nature such as Benazir/Ehsas Program. Who cares if PTI changed the name and the fact it may take credit away from PPP? One of the reasons why Pakistan is where it is today is due to lack of successive govts continuing policies that are actually good for long term growth. Meanwhile we’d rather play the blame game for the next 40 years just like we have with the last 40
Please note a major grammatical error. The word 'cost' does not have 'ed' when used in the past tense. There is no such word as "costed" that you used twice in the same sentence. Thank you for your great work, nonetheless.
Petition to launch a youtube channel where shahzad only does political impersonations!
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More Indians are interested to listen than Pakistanis. What does that say?
Knowing the enemy better 🤔
Pakistan have talents but establishment and politician are in different world
Tons of learning through this podcast!
don't mind but pakistani politicians had no vision. They just had to take care of 50% of Pakistanis, the rest are still in India. Imagine if complete migration had occurred and you had to take care of 400+ million people now. Chinese, Americans, and european were all on your side. Even now I think you get some preference in trade with the EU, which India never got. India not only has 1.3+ billion people, but its population density is almost 1.5 times of Pak. You had so much working in your favor compared to us, yet your leaders f**ked up.
I was binge watching Uzair's podcasts from last night , waiting for him to talk about his analysis on India and India's growth in future. I have heard him talk about Indian progress profoundly and then suddenly but when a saw him taking 180 turn and talking about Hindutva, while generalising it and giving out false propaganda majorly projected by the very left side of the political spectrum. The vote percentage really ? Aren't you supposed to talk about policies and not vote bank politics ?
Here you are again 😂😂😂😭
Basically you enjoy when he talks good about India and bad about Pakistan. But not when he exposes your evils? Hahahahaha..
Radicalisation can bite us back. Whether you like hearing about it or not.
Why pakistan always go imf
Reduce salary and pention payments
Big worry will be weat shortage in April
mene bh ki th 2013 m abb akal agaye tu kkia karain. logon ko apne cars m betha k voting k liye lay kr gaya tha
Really loved it bro...so good..plz can you make a podcast or ask the guest to give his views on indian economy too...
@@parthparth433 i guess you never watched him on Twitter or his previous podcast.. definitely gonna be having views against Hindutava and all..but has covered good thing in Indian system..he never overshadowed India's growth story over hindutva one
@@abhaypatel4292 Agreed. But his view of 'Hindutva' is too exaggerated. For example, In this podcast he said only 35 to 38% people of India voted for Hindutva. That's such a wrong characterization. The assumption that people who voted for BJP only did it because of BJP's polarization is absurd.
@@arunsar7893 but it is true that due to hindutva india's gdp crashed.
@@mayurkanth6987 But it isn't. There is no correlation.
@@arunsar7893 lol 🤣🤣🤣 go and check india's GDP GROWTH RATE since 2016 . It has been consistently *DECLINING*.
India's average GDP growth rate from 2010-2020 was just 5% . Less than even Bangladesh. .
Indian goods exports were $300B in 2010.
In 2020 10 years later Indian exports were $285B. So in reality india has been a stagnant economy for past 10 years. Goods exports growth rate of india was just 1% from 2010-2020 Vs 3% of Bangladesh. Go and check bangladesh's textile industry exports. It has beaten india.
only solution for your country is bring Defense under executive power. no other option.