COMEBACK?! (Pt 3 - 4th of July Special) Ram ABS Saga...(CEL ON, Can't Pass Inspection!)
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- I had a BAD FEELING about this one...
A few hours into his drive back home, the owner said that the mystery RAM ABS GLITCH reared its ugly head AGAIN!! Oh no...
Truck is DANGEROUS to drive in this state.
The brake pedal pulses back at your foot when you want to stop!!!
We have to make this right for the customer...
What would YOU do in this case?
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IVAN, you got RAMMED on this one my friend😂😂😂
The best is you don't give up with finding solutions even when frustration kicks in. True work of a professional. Great work as always, Ivan...
Between state inspections, lack of parts and vehicle complexity; taking on these newer vehicles is akin to walking a minefield at times. I often get ribbed on my work truck a 1990 CK2500 Silverado. But I can fix or replace anything on it. Parts are everywhere for it, parts are inexpensive, its paid for and most repairs can be done for less money than one or two monthly payments on their trucks. Of which most I have repaired with them having less than 40K miles on the clock. Glad I am close to retirement is all I can say. Going forward mechanics are going to need a diagnostic mindset more than ever to make it. Thanks for the series Ivan.
Well that was certainly a learning curve, most garages would have had it sitting there forever, most cars are now over engineered and beyond any mechanic, so top marks
Worst thing the manufacturers did to modern vehicles was to turn them into electronic puzzle boxes.
Manufacturers were forced into this trend through regulation. Caused both by eager bureaucrats and insurance companies.
I was issued one of those RAM same year state truck for work, had similar brake problems. It was new 2016. They just took it back and gave me Ford 150. No problems with that truck for five years 👍
I have the same year Ram G.O.V. but with the V6. 124000 miles, no brake issues at all. Original pads and rotors on all four corners.
I drove those state trucks in the city mostly needed lots of brake jobs.
I'm with you Ivan on the older vehicles. I like just a simple car/truck without all the computer-controlled junk. But at least we have a competent person who understands these systems and can put our cars back on the road. Nice work Ivan
I like my pack mule.
ABS is a great safety addition to vehicles WHEN THEY ARE NOT BROKEN!!!
I used to say I liked my old truck. After watching Ivan, I LOVE my old 66 c 10.
ECM, BCM & TCM.
That's all I have. Runs great, easy & cheap to repair.
You want a cute toy, go buy one of these over-engineered easy to assemble in the factory nightmares.
You want dependable transportation? Get an older car/truck.
Ivan you are truly blessed, your positive demeanor is a inspiration.
End of a series on a Saturday? Was expecting something else to go wrong at the end 😂
That exasperated sigh right at the beginning is me every time I do anything on a vehicle….i usually get it right the second time😂
I think the real lesson to people is let your money tell these makers who don't supply parts at the very minimum 10 years and ideally 20 years you are going elsewhere. The other odd thing is they make more money on parts and service than they doing selling the vehicles. That's the dealers. You would think the dealer network would be up in arms about this to the makers. I believe in the free market and hate govt. getting involved but with the price of vehicles and how much we depend on them for a functioning society congress should mandate they make replacement parts for certain time limit. I don't think 20 years is unreasonable but the bare minimum should be 10 years.
This reminds me of something that happened back in the 1970s. A coworker told me his pickup wouldn't start on high humidity days. He said if he took the solid state ignition box in the house and let it dry out then the truck would start. He said there were some small holes in the bottom of it. I told him to take it in the house for two or three days and put it where it was warm enough to make sure it was completely dry inside. Then fill the holes with epoxy or some sealer, so moisture couldn't get back in the module. He tried that and never had any more trouble. That might have worked with the cracked module you had from eBay.
That thing was harder to fix than the Boeing Starliner space capsule stuck on the Space Station.
Dude should never be freaked out about a Chrysler with strange electrical problems.
You are a fighter.You never give up and
look at problems with a sense of humour! not pull your hair out in frustration like some other individuals.A great quality.
These new cars and trucks are a computer nightmare. Lack of replacement parts keeps the planned obsolescence method of manufacturing going strong. It is incredible that there are so many modules in new vehicles. Computer updates, software updates, it's all too much. The most complex item in my 67 VW Beetle is the AM/FM stereo radio!!! My 2014 Porsche Cayenne S is a total computer nightmare. I am blessed that after 10 years and 133K 0n the odometer, nothing major has occurred. But that day will come... Fantastic videos. Eric at South Main Auto turned me on to your channel, and I can't wait for your next video!
Those modules are getting more scarce all the time. Yesterday I was parked near to one of these trucks and gave some thought to that problem. HMMMMM!
Good fix Ivan.
You are so patient with these cars. Incredible work, Ivan!
PHAD don't have come backs....
Just bad parts/made in (h!na.
Right here people.. Quality work at it's finest
Thanks Ivan for this great study .... is anyone EVER going to make parts again? wth?
Finally job done mate! Possibly water splashed in through the crack in the case of that brake unit during the owner's trip home, or there may have also been an intermittent crack on the circuit board inside the unit.
Probably a good learning experience for you too for next time! But rusty bolts snapping off! Geez, you'd think they would know by now about salt corrosion on bolts by now!
Yep welcome to module /computer control cars,it’s the software,reprogramming that’s the issue,the manufacturer does not want us to be able to do,it can be frustrating.I don’t mind finding,fitting breaker’s yard parts,as long as I can program the part,that bit I sometime find frustrating.great video,hi lights the issue that is coming to us all.
Thank you Ivan. I always enjoy your holiday specials. I hope you and yours had a good 4th!
Thank you Ivan for putting together another Awesome Series!
100% Agree about these newer multi-module vehicles.
Ivan is really a guru!
Patience is the ability to endure difficult circumstances. Patience may involve perseverance in the face of delay; tolerance of provocation without responding with disrespect or anger; forbearance when under strain, especially when faced with longer-term difficulties; or being able to wait for a long time without getting irritated or bored. This is Ivan in a nutshell! Great job Ivan! you are an inspiration to us all! 👍
Great series here Ivan, on the Ram 1500! Sometimes makes you think, do vehicles have to be this involved and complex?? No.. but they are and not many in my Midwest neck of the woods can fix them.. lol
Holy smokes! I guess 4th time is the charm? No pun intended. I've had that problem with a lot of Volvo's with the DSTC brake system. My shop had an entire shelf full of rebuilt and used ABS modules and only a handful of them actually worked. I think we went through 4 different module rebuilders until we found one that would actually work on those modules.
Man what a journey on this case study. Great Job yet again.
The patience of Job. Thanks Ivan.
Happy independence day Ivan! Thank you for you informative and helpful videos.
Thanks Ivan!
IVAN, AWESOME as always you have a lots of patience brother fixing such a problem when the parts is not there fast thanks for sharing always learn from the best as you cheeeeers.
Hooray! It's finally fixed! Great job, Ivan! This difficulty in getting reliable replacement modules is really disturbing - manufacturers don't really care about their customers.
I've got a 1994 Ford Ranger pickup I bought new. It's been a pretty reliable truck. The AC went out on it years ago, and that's a killer here in Arizona. But I deal with it. I've been wanting to get a new car. But after seeing how flaky the new stuff is, I think I'll just put my money into the old truck and keep it going.
Your videos have been very helpful to me. Your channel is one I look forward to. Keep up the good work and... THANK YOU !
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Ivan saves another one. This guy is so awesome. I love his videos. Please Give him a thumbs up everyone 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I hope everyone had a great independence day
Nice fix for sure and Happy July 4th enjoy and thank you...
They rebuild those ABS modules. That's what I bought when my one died. The electrolytic capacitors go bad and need to be replaced in them. That's usually the problem.
Is it concerning that I now know how to replace this module by heart? Love your content Ivan, you are the best.
I remember my first issues with computer controls. A Chevy Chevette with a computer controlled carburetor. We should have never let the government get involved in the free market.
persistence matters thanks for sharing
I never supplied used parts.
I'd get the customer to buy them. We'd fit them.
No warranty for the part.
We guaranteed that we'd put all the bolts back if possible, and that it 'wont fall off' !
Part not working or fails, not our problem.
Our invoice was to fit supplied parts
@@mistsmogguru8378 Sounds like a pretty good philosophy as long as the vehicle isn't a 'beached whale' as Ivan calls them! There's a number of advantages to this way of operating I can see ->
● saves you time having to chase the parts so you can concentrate on the repair itself
● saves you being out of pocket for the cost of the parts
● it gives the owner a feeling of involvement in the repair, & a reassurance of the source of the parts
● gives you indemnity against getting the wrong parts
● ensures that the customer is serious enough to fork out cash towards the repair
@@nevillegoddard4966 many traders insurance terms , the small print, do not cover you for the fitting of used parts. They usually tell you roughly what parts.
The other thing is that the customer knows you're not inflating the prices as they bought them. At their risk.
We never recommended a supplier. All we offered was somewhere for the parts to be delivered.
Be mindful of giving customers access to their car and keys whilst you are in charge of the vehicle. We were covered by many cameras and caught customers taking their keys or something from the car and blaming us. It happened 4 times and the CCTV saved us. They'll try anything. Our work authorisation forms included storage charges for non-payment should it come to it.
You must protect yourself
Ivan helps people who want their cars fixed, not just parts changed.
@@wayneessar7489 sounds like a backhand comment. All I can say is, don't comment without a common frame of reference.
We fixed vehicles.
The indemnity insurance would not allow us to supply and fit an abs pump that was used.
And for the record, Ivan has been stung by customers also.
More recently, he takes deposits.
Everyone learns the hard way.
Although now retired, I still help a friend with a car sales plot when they are stumped.
Had my shop for over 30 years, that's my reference
@@mistsmogguru8378the new part is not available. And the vehicle cannot be on the road without passing the inspection where the owner lives. Without working ABS it will not pass inspection. There is no other option than to buy a used module.
Ivan I get a lot of my parts from salvage yards I use car- part nationwide data base have pretty good luck so far with OEM stuff especially Chrysler tipm's
Thanks for the video Ivan.
Firstly, I wouldn't provide any warranty for vehicles when all new parts are not used in the repair when swapping any part. If parts are unobtainium, no warranty. Secondly, the bill will not be discounted, every hour is billed at the appropriate rate. Combacks will be billed at the appropriate rate, no freebees.
Seems reasonable.
As long it's not the same issue.
If it's the same issue. Then the monkey is in your back.
If you diagnose it wrong and requires more parts. 😊😊
Glad you got it fixed. Those modules are junk. Only question/ suggestion would be to check calibration with witech just to be sure. I know the hardware number is the same just would be verifying the software.
Hi Ivan, if you apply some blue low strength Loctite to the screws, it will seal out the elements and stop the corrosion in the threads
Good luck Rich
Dealer would have charged him thousands of dollars...and it still would not be fixed...Ivan the man.
Dealer couldn't ever fix it because parts were not available xD
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Dealer ever heard of the junk yard : )
Thanx for sharing & always keeping it real !!
State College is a "fir stretch" from Chiefland, FL.....unfortunately for me....shoot.....Eric O. is even farther away
Next time i see a ram truck. I'd run away lol. Hahaha. But that was a real saga!! But you got there in the end. I swore that i would never buy from ebay!! Ever. To long ship and parts are trash. Nice series video Ivan!!
Happy 4 god bless you
Great job my friend. May have to checkout the sports fishing. Been a very long time since I soaked a line.
well, that didn't take long! didn't notice the part III when I watched last. 😬
at least the radiostation mockba changed frequences,Ivan😇😂👍
thats the reason i drive an old Honda accord 03. reliable car. the baya auto trans had some issues for some people but mine is still working ok. these newer cars can be a real nitemare with all the electronic glitches. any check engine light you cant pass emissions if you live in a city that mandates emissions testing
On my Saab 9-3 I had a somewhat similar failure of the ABS module. The fix is to resolder the pins for the big connector at the circuit board trace pads and a good cleaning. Vibration or other stuff (tin whiskers?) causes corruption of the signals. Weirdness ensues. It has been a year and a half with no problems.
Talk about quality control....Ivan to the rescue 😊
I had a late 90s Ford explorer that whipped my tail. It would randomly activate an ABS stop during normal braking. Scan data showed correct wheel speed on all 4, but when I attached a scope one of the speed signals was dropping low-indicating a wheel lockup. Unfortunately, I pulled the trigger on the hydraulic unit first.
Wow I hope you don’t see that truck again
Happy Independence Day! 🇺🇸
Happy 4th to everyone. I have a story...my daughter comes to visit me at our summer house and of course blown radiator, classic split plastic junk. So I source a radiator 2hrs away tossed it in life is good it runs great test drive seemed ok then...Misfire Cyl #3. Now this is a Hyundai 3.3 and you guys know cyl #3 is under the intake can you guys guess what I did wrong? There was so much Antifreeze silly me decided to wash the engine off yes, I caused the misfire. I did the swap tronic's took plug and coil and put them in the front bank (2.4.6.) I need a little luck this makes its 8hrs drive home for my daughter. Wish me luck guys 👍 this was a pain, we are 1hr from nearest town and 3 hrs from nearest Auto Parts store there isnt even a traffic light in this town😂.
Module under engineering review huh? Sounds like a future recall to me.
Ivan, well call this episode The Rambo's goast😅
Thought those AtE Modules had a bonding wire issue, Only way to get years of service is to get one with a rebuilt board with newly micro soldered "Done by a Machine" board to board bonding wires. Was such and issue on BMW early 00's that I remember seeing companies showing the process on YT. Lots of precision machining to remove the flood epoxy from the inside of the casing. then a single purpose machine to install and micro weld the new gold bonding wires.
You are so Awesome. I wish I lived by you. Anyone ever tell you that's you look like a grown up version of Dewey from Malcolm in the middle?
Happy Independence Day Ivan!
Happy Independence Day, Ivan
one day I decided to start looking for tutorials and learn theory and then try to understand the diag technique by just watching my Tenzing Norgay... thank you Ivan... really hope someday you can write me back to my mail... which is my youtube channel...
It is crazy that brand new OEM parts are not available for some vehicles. Talk about obsolescence.
Let’s go!
We all know what Eric O. calls ebay don't we? What is it? Flea-bay? I guess he likens that to a flea market? I know you have said you like these types of issues because of the learning curve. That's a very steep one, Ivan. Now, I want you to go around your driveway, Ivan, and pat each one of your cars on the fender....Start with the Rogue. They might have transmission issues, etc. but once they are fixed, they are fixed. GREAT VIDEO!
Oh, I didn't know that. Yup, it is unanimous that if someone says "I tried to fix it and replaced such and such" or "I've had it to three places and they did this and that" before they come to you. You should probably decline because you know you are in for rabbit hole.
Ironically, I brought up fishing in yesterday's video. XD Speaking of which, it's almost time to head for the river. ;)
man that RAM IS FROM Hell☠️
Hopefully the last used module will live long.
In the news in the past few months - Stellantis refuses to pay its suppliers.
I think it's called brand suicide in the business world.
You sure stick with a problem!
This vehicle needs a rewrite where the owner gets a different make.😂
I make really good money as a mobile mechanic/diagnostic tech. I especially make the most doing brakes and suspension but I really enjoy diagnosing. I wish I could diagnose everyday. I would lose a little money but enjoy it alot more. I really enjoy electrical issues, 90% of mechanics I talk to hate that part.
So much for Dodge Quality parts.....why in the hell can't they keep it stupid simple....LOL
TheDodge Brothers strike yet again!
They are rolling in their graves. They would have never approved all this electronic crap.
2024 - THE comeback year. Lost my job at shop of 7 years. Trying to make ends meet till I can find a new shop is rough esp in Kommiefornia and get a comeback outside of my control but still have to take care of the customer and had to eat it... Comebacks can be rough, esp with no causation on my part.
A few hours later...
I kinda miss the bear grunts it was making.
Ive been watching Sanctioned Ivan on you tube, He's a guy living in Thailand trying to get to the US, when he was living in Moscow he showed some of the Russian cars and I hate to say this but there looking good. crude no computers just small engine and a 3 pedal car. l think he had a Lada if thats right LOL
Hi Ivan, why you not check the DTC P0463 and P0460 fuel level sensor 1? This is too costumer complain.
This computer crap and having to install the vin number everytime something is changed is a bunch of BS.
I'd like to see some hacking to the root cause and make the computer accept any module with the right part number. Give that crap a labotomy and tell the manufacturer to suck eggs.
Ivan, I always wonder if you are billing for all your time. Comebacks too.
Can't bill for the comeback lol
Ivan I think it was better to wait for the original ABS and you will be a little sure
I was thinking that Ivan would tear apart all the modules he had to rebuild one good one... haha. THEN AGAIN... terrible idea.. screwing with brakes is asking for a lawsuit of his m own.. yikes
How is it that no new parts for this module from Dodge.. Good luck with the beast .
Filty abs sensors also can cause the same symptons a specialy on dodge
2016 not to bad the new ones are worthless...way to many modules
Did you keep one of the modules to do a postmortem on ? be interesting to see what goes wrong.Cheers Ivan told you that Stallantis was going to be aPITA.
Whats wild is i dont know of anybody these days who is on the up and up about anything newer than ‘18 and its a stretch for them to know anything ecu related on those newer models at that. Come next generation were not going to have but a handful of kids even interested in cars at all.. let alone kids that are gonna wanna learn about how to fix these new piles of rolling junk.. but by then everything will be throw away so itll all be modular and cost 5 or 6 figures to replace
I have a 2017 3500 Ram I bought new to pull my 5th wheel camper. I’m on my second ABS module. And abs light is on again the truck only has 12k on it . Ram has a problem with ABS.
👍awesome that's how you treat customers fix it
Dogged persistence, expert knowledge, tons of experience, 🎓🎓🎓🇺🇸♦️💲👍😎😁
If it can be fixed, Ivan can fix it !!!!!!!!!
Ivan, you are certainly persistent. I'd say most vehicles are not over engineered, they are overly complicated for the task at hand. This is a matter of poor design. Couple that with a dismissive attitude toward supporting their models that are in service, it's a wonder that there isn't a larger inventory sitting on dealers lots. I long for some better alterative.
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This is just a good look of the future, bulb burns out throw away the whole vehicle because repair would be too expensive. Dealer lots full of overpriced junk the public cannot afford. Looks like we're going back to the horse and buggy days, at least when the horse dies on the side of the road you can still eat it.