The Old World Narrative Battle Report - Tomb Kings vs Bretonnians
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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The Old World returns! Games Workshop has kindly sent us a special narrative scenario that Steve and Luka will play in this narrative battle report between Tomb Kings and Brettonia Exiles and an Errantry Crusade.
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“You’re as beautiful as the day I lost you”
I got that reference
I love the refrence, also, it was never lost. It was stolen, we were betrayed, but it returns to us now, when we needed it the most.
Epic reference bro
Except the magic phase.
@@Tropic_Reconthe salt is real
Gastonne? *SMIRKS*
"NOOOOOOO ONNNNNEEEE..."
"RIDES LIKE GASTONNE!"
"SLAYS UNDEAD LIKE GASTONNE!"
"NO ONE'S LANCE IS AS TRUE OR AS FIERCE AS GASTONNE'S!"
"I DEDICATE EACH VICTORY TO THE LADY!"
"MY, WHAT A KNIGHT, THAT GASTONNE!"
This is an accurate representation of Steve's Paladin with the fancy axe!
Wait a second… where is Settra? He’s the one leading the assault, right? He’d never NOT take the field for this.
@@rakshithanand8262 this was a vanguard force of Tomb Kings! Settra arrives later!
A TOW campaign on a hex map of the old world sounds abolutely amazing. Looking foward too see it!
Man, this takes me back to years ago watching WHFB batreps
Same. That is how I found their channel years ago.
The armies look so good ranked together! I'm so excited!
Luka immediately forgetting Light of Protection was hilarious, even if the rolls on the Sepulchral Stalkers wouldn't have changed.
Stalkers would have taken two wounds if he remembered the other fight i did not count
Steve just looks so excited
I've been looking forward to this moment for a long, long time! Will you be covering The Old World regularly, like with 40k and AoS?
You bet!
@miniwargaming awesome! Looks like I'll be restarting my vault subscription again!
@@miniwargaming Please do!!!!!
I'm so excited for this and future The Old World videos.
I'm cautiously optimistic of The Old World. Hopefully GW delivers.
Same. I'm loving the new combat breaking system. It keeps the game fluid, but enables units to keep fighting a little longer. Plus, 40 zombie tarpits won't be quite as boring to play against. As a vampire player, this is a Good Thing.
I'm just weary of GW's pricing. I had both 40k and Fantasy/AoS and had to drop 40k because of prices and the direction of the game. I kept Fantasy because it's my favorite setting but no one really plays where I am. Hopefully The Old World brings in new players but I'm not keeping my hopes up.
Looks good with new stuff but that LEGACY FACTIONS is concerning especially Vamps, Skavens, Dark Elves.... I am mainly lore buff and army books are my interest and looking at minis, not as much collecting them can't afford.
Anyways if they won't get anything new and interesting I'll be very disappointed.
@@CapybaraConnoisseur89 they arent. New article dropped on WarCom. The legacy armies wont get any minis, no ongoing support and wont be tournament legal.
If LI is any indication the won't deliver (the models)😉
The rule set looks good though, looking forward to get the rulebook in March sometime
54:29 That is absolutely fantastic! Questing Knights arent completly useless anymore.
Excited to see the Grail Knights I painted for you Steve hit the table! For the Lady!
What an awesome battle report. Much better than the GW one, I really appreciated that you both went into detail about how certain rules were updated or changed. Are these the new MWG Forge bases Matt talked about? They look really good! If they aren't I'd love to know how to you got that texture, it looks different from just painted sand.
They are the new bases! You can get them at miniwargamingforge.com/collections/bases
I have waited a long time for this. Thank you so much for providing these excellent battle reports and keeping the Old World flame burning all those years!
Matt you are having so much fun whit this getting a narrative game to play whit i cant wait to see what else you use all of this for.
by the looks of it you forgot the -1 to hit the stalkers and the ward from the Casket spell that would have been big as they would have taken at least 3 less damage
It’s like being taken back to a better time. ❤
Ranks and square bases, brings a tear to my eye
I remember you both so excited to share ToW returning news! Its been a long journey but we are here!!!! ❤
So nice to see WHFB back. Glad I’ll get to live vicariously through these wonderful batreps
Been watching your Warhammer Fantasy battle reports for years. This is a dream come true
Many more to come!
I am so excited for this! I cannot wait for the map campaign
You guys did a way better battle report than GW. That level of enthusiasm they have is actually obnoxious. You guys have the perfect balance.
Unfortunately however, Old World still looks very boring compared with what else is out there in the rank-and-file space.
Its fake enthusiasm. Obviously fake and ginned up for the third take. The weariness behind the eyes says ‘kill me now’.
Oh no doubt, but it's present in their stores, as well, it's why I avoid most GW stores like the plague (though my local is not that bad, tbh).@@idiotproofdalek
We're back baby!
These two look so happy to be playing the old world finally. Love to see it
Love seeing the ranked armies again can't wait to get my Dwarfs back on the field.
Happy to see the recognition from gw community. Yall deserve it! Great report as always
This was amazing! Thank you! Absolutely loving the Old World, I only hope it does well and sours!
Such a badass narrative battle, too. For ze Lady!!
loved this old world battle report, please more of this
Welcome back old friend!!
I have been looking forward for this for years. This is what I wanted to play again all that time. Love that you guys are picking it up.
But a quick overview of the armies also showed me the insanity of what used to be wfb. Those armies are big there are so many models.
There is no way that I'm going to jump back into this without some serious planning to keep it realistic.
Painting a killteam is already a challenge nowadays and lets not talk about modern gw prices.
It's worth bearing in mind that this is a pretty large game at 3000 points per side. Armies of 1500-2000 points will be munc more manageable. The TK and Bretonnian starter boxes are each 1250 points, so that gives a good idea what a smaller game will look like.
I love AOS & and 40k, but this is my 1st love ❤️. I'm so excited & hyped for this as I started in 4th edition I have very many happy memories of fantasy. I'll be getting the books & map tomorrow, but holding off minis as a wood elf player in my heart, hopefully sooner rather than later, other armies will be released. I'll still be well on board the hype train until then. 😊
"I might be able to heal him actually"
"NO--"
Filing this under my 'perfectly cut screams' playlists.
I can't tell if Brets are overpowered or TK are underpowered yet.. both guys took balanced lists and yet the Brets have so much more damage on their side. Brets also won the warhammer+ game, so... army balance seems a bit suspect...
Could it be that either both groups have forgotten some of the TK rules?
Or that GW just needs Bret's to sell well and they are afraid they aren't as popular as TK or are historically known as not good?
@@gerritvandenbosch4681 so far TK have shown really low damage output. They might end up being a tar pit army that can slowly grind while replenishing their ranks, but that's never the type of army that wins tournaments...
It's way to early to tell IMO.
Steve rolled like a GOD on the right flank, and I could have used a BIT more magic support overall! These games will mostly ALWAYs come down to dice, it'll be hard for one army to pull ahead on stats/points alone.
This match reminded me of many of the problems with Tomb kings from previous additions. Slow, low initiative, low armor, bone giants and scorpions are total let downs, and angled screening units are an absolute MUST against Bret’s.
WOW, what an AMAZING battle report!!! It was so much fun to watch from beginning to the end. The rules look soo much fun. Finally, GW got a good system for fantasy again! Will sell my AoS Lumineth to buy a Bretonnian old world army. I am soo excited!
This brings back so much nostalgia, to old MWG fantasy battle reports. I dearly hoped from the thumbnail, that it will be Matt :) Sadly not the player this time, but please next time
Those Bastonne Men at Arms is how i painted mines up back in the day. Looks glorious!
can't wait to see you guys on the 20th, its going to be epic
Lucky enough to live in Nottingham. I'll see you there!
"It never dies for me"
Well said Steve!
The old Warhammer never dies….it just fades away….AND THEN COMES BACK WITH A VENGEANCE!
Thanks guys! This match was not nonsense!
Looks like fear is quite nerfed from the old days. Hopefully that was taken into account with undead balance.
Undead seem quite bad tbh
@@c.alexander4199 that's a continuation from 8th sadly. Tomb kings were pretty bad that edition.
Ty guys. Missed fantasy all these years. " I was there Gaundaulf 1000 years ago."
Still the Tomb Kings suffer from crappy stat constructs for the price, but still love to see the game return.
Yeah, feels like they are made of paper..
We made it!
I love how you got Luca to play the Tombkings xD
i picture him not knowing any fantasy at all and not wanting to play at all and you just went "fantasy necrons" and hes at the door before you even finished going "COMEON LETS GO!"
Awesome to see it folks! love the format and the match up. Always fun seeing you guys play but especially loved the gentle walk through of new rules.
This game is so much better than 40k in terms of design and just overall
I was so excited for this game, been waiting since the first announcement in November of 2019. I bought over $1,000 worth of the new Lizardmen miniatures from the AOS line and have been prepping for launch over the last year. Then today, after I've already made my pre-order at my LGS. They decide to drop this news: What about the legacy factions?
Rob: A few of the factions from the previous Warhammer Fantasy Battle game will not feature in Warhammer: The Old World - this is in terms of game rules, model ranges, and the ongoing background narrative. These ‘Legacy’ factions will however get free, downloadable army lists so people can try out the new system using their older model collections. More about this in the coming weeks, though please note that they won’t be considered legal for tournaments, and won’t receive ongoing support.
If you want to come on this long-term journey with us, the factions in the Forces of Fantasy and Ravening Hordes books are the ones to collect and play - and we want to be pretty clear about that.
What the actual hell GW?! Do y'all just hate making money? I knew that my faction would be only a PDF and I'd get no narrative, special characters, magic items, new army construction rules, etc. But why exclude them from tournaments?! Lizardmen, Skaven, Dark Elves, Daemons, Ogres, Vamp Counts. These are all just as much a part of WHFB as any of the "core" factions ever were. This is just utterly deflating and if the PDF rules are some vanilla, boring, copy pasted and unoriginal garbage then they are just awful human beings for even teasing us with "rules" in the first place.
I do understand that's very frustrating, but you did take a personal risk diving in that deep to a range that was said to be unsupported before all the information was out. You can always wait with it if you are a tournament guy, hopefully the other factions will get full support with time.
I suspect a lot of local shops that will be hosting the events will not support that decision! I am sure they would allow the Legacy armies. I would!
Hmm, the new rules do seem quite great, for me definitely much better than 8th ed but I will keep on playing 6th and 5th alongside the Old World. I'll continue to do my armies with the old bases though as I only use 6th ed and older models anyway.
I'm a bit worried about the Tomb Kings seeming a bit bland and weak as my strictly 6th ed Tomb Kings army is my current main army (meaning only 6th ed models, I will play this with them). In 6th Tomb Kings were a very unique and tactical army with their incantations system that could be quite powerful and as fear was very powerful too they are great in that edition. I don’t see those things here, the regen is quite good but the arise ability is quite limited and there’s no way to have full extra movement and attacks like in 6th which made them powerful there due to being able to do maneuvres most others couldn't. Still seems more powerful than in 8th! Hard to tell yet, we’ll see.
Watch the battle report between Steve and me tomorrow on his channel (@MountainMiniatures). They won't look bland or weak there. ;)
@@miniwargaming I certainly will!
@@miniwargaming Spoiler warning! lol.
@@miniwargaming were they using the Mortuary cult? I'm very interested in that army lol.
This list was put together with a variety of many different options, which did take away from how much magic I was able to bring! With a lot of priests, you can manipulate the armies movement quite a bit, as well as using Arise a lot more!
This immediately hones in on what AoS cannot do for me, ground the narrative. I know the stakes, I know the players, I know the place. AoS infinite and shifting realms is great for ass pulling new minis but not so much for being grounded and building stakes.
Nice job guys
Nailed it. Warhamer fantasy is a sandbox for the players. Ageof Sigmar is a sandbox for a models company.
A long time ago I watched my first bat rep on a miniature wargame and it was Matt playing someone using the Warhammer starter set. It was elves vs rat men. That video alone set me on a course to play non clix miniature games from that point on.
My God... I'm old. I remember miniwargaming making a 'how to play' with the old WHFB... (dark elves vs tomb kings)... never thought I'd see a new video on a new game
I am so freaking excited for the Old World can't wait to play up there.
I paid 5$ for all of The triumph and treachery box set, after the end of old-world. So glad I can finally use it, was a really cool display book before
I love you guys! More then 10 years without disappointments
Glad you've enjoyed!!
Nice battle report. I like the rules and because I am new to WFB, I am going to buy the box
man im so hyped for old world, its been a long time since ive had that hobby excitement i used to feel back when i was a kid. old world has rekindled that. love the map guys amazing vid appreciate yas!
As a 40k player thats never touched Fantasy, I really want to get into Old World. I cant wait for the launch boxes to sell out to scalper bots before they even go live on the site.
Better off trying to reserve a copy at a brick and mortar hobby store. In the UK element games aren't even selling them online and instead reserved all their allocation for their physical stores to avoid scalpers preordering them all instantly.
Are those Tomb King troops on 25mm bases? Great to see a unit of the OG and better metal Tomb Guard! Just got a unit of them recently for my TK army as I use only models of the original 2003 range in it.
Yes sir! Essentially every model's base size has increased by about 20%
Agreed, I much prefer the less decorated Tomb Guard then the plastic ones. Got around 30 myself plus a Blood Bowl team converted out of them.
@@Karloss00 A man of immaculate taste! I feel they leaned too heavily in to the Egypt theme after the initial range, it was certainly always there but they had a bit different look to them.
ah now i can tap back into my old high elves and finish painting them as soon as i find a store to play old warhammer fantasy...or 40k for that matter.
Wow amazing! Definitely considering signing up to the Vault.
Looking forward to more content! I would also like to say, Steve is looking good! Much love.
Thinking about starting my first ever old world army.
40K is all I have ever played before so I don't even have any models. :D
I'm probably going to build beastmen army and I wonder if I should wait who knows how long for them to release or just start building them from aos sets and get bases separately bases :P...
Glorious!!! Congrats on the early preview!!!
Battle of the (un)squatted ones! Brilliant report, looking forward to seeing more :)
So excited for the game and for the next armies, like The Empire and Dwarfs. Long live to Old World!
Cant wait for the drunk little angry guys to be released with the equally little angry green guys
I think I was literally complaining last night about how they hadn't let you give us a preview game lol
As the dust from numerous thunderous charges from Bretonian cavalry settles, in a nearby local barracks, shouting can be heard for a doctor or surgeon. With only one phrase certain among the commotion... "Cecil lives!"
Old world wars is back baby! Been watching that series for years, can't wait to see some wood elves!
i'm so hyped for old world. I was still pretty young when fantasy died so i never had a chance to play even though i've been watching battle reports for almost 15 years now.
Yeah, this is why Tomb Kings had to be given extra bonus points because of how poorly balanced the game was. Every game I have seen Brets crush Tomb Kings decisively. Unstable is such a liability.
Honestly, it seems like high armour saves are just OP right now. I don't know whether it's because of WP or toughness being higher, but it just seems like blocks of light infantry just can't make a dent in them at all when you'd expect they might be able to do something.
Dying to a horse would be embarrassing for an ancient construct. What a relief to see that armour save.
so! tomb Kings still need a point buff.
The campaign idea sounds amazing
Seems like this game could really benefit from some tokens you can put on the table for combat res, buffs, etc. I feel like there was quite a few errors or things forgotten (well of souls buff?). Which is understandable given how long the game must have gone on. But that's where tokens can really help.
Awesome! Super cool to watch.
Did you forget to play with the Fear rules?
Well, looks like I'll be getting a vault membership
Can't wait for Dwarfs! Khazukan Kazakit-ha!
Never clicked on a video so fast.
I was 10 minutes into warhammer+ battle report when i saw this and clicked immediately 😂
😂
Seeing the bone giant and casket of souls in play make me so happy
Also, You can't wizzardly dispell when engaged in combat, which is pretty huge!
Cool. Tomb Worlds getting wrecked is consistent with Warhammer Fantasy bat reps I've seen, so I guess they've kept it true to the original.
LETS GO !
Casket of souls spell, light of protection does it work vs missile fire and HtoH combat? Says ,"rolls to hit against units within 18"
Intro was fantastic.
Just saying... Step Up would have helped a whole lot with all those frontal charges in which you couldn't do squat cause your front rank died. For all the talk everyone was going on about being more tactical and watching your positioning cause you don't have step up to rely on.... didn't really seem to play out all that much. you just took a bunch of frontal charges and lost without being able to fight back.
I can't see how that's very fun to watch a unit just wither way and not even be able to go down swinging.
This is going to ruin the game for me. I play tomb kings and dwarves. Both low initiative and slow. Charges will be hard to make. Dumbest rule I have seen
@@MrCaryk cavalry in particular will mock you.
The brets ignoring enemy ranks on tge first charge is particularly bad.
@@skeith1543 are there supporting attacks from the second rank anymore?
@@MrCaryk nope, unless you have spears it looks like.
@skeith1543 geez. Just sounds so damn boring. I miss 8th edition
Love the content. Stoked for the upcoming campaign you described.
Remember when Matt was bashing Warhammer fantasy and Steve was defending its greatness
Awesome sauce. I am not going back to Old world. I do not trust GW tohandle it well but its nice to look at :)
Tomb king: i got the hill
Random skeleton: what did it cost you
Tomb king: everything
r/Nagash_irl
Haha, that is how it felt
Thanks so much guys!
This was great to watch!
MORE NARRATIVE CAMPAIGNS
SETTRA DEMANDS IT
WOOT WOOT OLD WORLD!!!
1:30:30
Luka: Oh I might be able to heal him, actually!
Steve: NO!-
Just a little moment of editing that got me to laugh lol