MrOlliguitar Huh. Puppets is hard? Now that I’ve been playing for a couple more years I never noticed puppets was a bit difficult. I’m sure I struggled when I was learning it way back, which makes sense. Or you can just learn the whole master of puppets album, solos and all, it helped me get my down picking to the point where it was second nature, and got me into soloing way back. I do believe a more difficult riff would be battery or fight fire with Fire. But that doesn’t matter, I still have a lot more to learn, I would say i still suck.
'Malpractice' and 'Jizzlobber' by Faith No More are two of the heaviest songs in standard I've ever heard. Edit: I think 7 Words might actually be in drop D.
*Showing "dad rock tuning" is heavy 1 juicy riff at a time* EDIT: Had to sadly cut Opeth - Deliverance, Sylosis - After Lifeless Years & Pantera - Domination short due to my good old friend copyright... Comment your favorites riffs down below!
3:10 it's crazy how when you palm-mute those 2 bottom strings, you could almost swear it's drop A. Adding the lowest note of the power chord doesn't mean a huge difference. So deathcore in E standard is totally possible.
Yeah, it's an inverted power chord, the fifth and the root are switched. In standard, the root note would be on the A string, therefore it's equivalent to a standard powerchord with an E string tuned down to A. My favourite example is Sylosis - Servitude, check it out.
To anyone saying it’ll sound like a fart or a bass lol it would actually be (basically) 8 string tuning and most of the songs would still sound great. As some of them would just need to stay right where they are. Listen to some within the ruins to hear some 9 string tuning and see if it sounds like a fart lmao
@@recruitdifficulty1638 I mean yeah. But for some reason I can hit the same notes and mine just sounds flimsier. Im sure there is a lot of technique I dont quite have down but still mine sounds super thin.
The question is. Are the bands making music for guitar players or for people in general? Cause literally the only people who cares about tuning are the guitar players.
10:43 Sonic Adventure 2 jumpscare what?! Wasn't expecting Crush 40 on here I'm so happy to see Live and Learn get some love outside of the Sonic fandom
@@DREADDWELLER same. they just can't release something bad. even got a dormant heart tattooed all over my chest & got the chance to show Ali one year ago
"E Standard isnt heavy" Opeth: Hold my beer/Håll min öl Edit: it's obvious some people dont understand the joke, so let me spell it out for you. It's about how opeth released their last record in both english and swedish.
Anthony Sanchez Outshined, Them Bones, and basically any Tool song. Some of the songs would be hard to learn *AHEM* (Dream Theater) but easy to find riffs.
i can honestly say i never knew Winds Of Plague was in E Standard. so crazy, but it sounds so damn good too. especially seeing them live. just holy shit
i played with them round about a year ago for the decimate the weak 10th anniversary tour i'm fairly certain that everything after the great war is not in standard, but dtw and tgw are both e standard!
well i didn't mean EVERYTHING is in standard E. but that wasn't clear in my original comment lol still, crazy to think about that heaviness in that turning haha
As the early Winds or Plague albums are in E standard they like to do 4th chords on the low E and A strings so it’s like doing a power chord on a 7 string but the 7th string isn’t there. Give a tight heavy and “lower than E” sound cause technically you can make it go down to an A sound
I think the thing with E standard is that its heavy riffs always sound really tight. My favorite riff by the way will always be from Heir Apparent. That riff just annihilates me every time I listen to it.
Sylosis kills standard tuning!!! I was just waiting to see that riff from Empyreal and you didn't disappoint!! Glad to see they got a good amount of love on here. Winds of Plague too! And of course, Dillinger!!! E standard can def be heavy af! I will forever love Eb standard though, one of my favorite tunings. That half step under just hits different, I can thank Dime for that.
I knew this dude in high school that played guitar and he was mostly into Metallica, Floyd, Zeppelin, etc but he always said that Dillinger riff was insane. He must have asked me if I had heard that song at least 4 times in a single semester
Sylosis are amazing at making E standard sound just as heavy as any drop tuning, even thought it’s more about the riff then the tubing anyways. Don’t forget Opeth who I also think make amazing E Standard death metal riffs when everyone else in death metal at the time would downtune no matter what
Sylosis tone fits damn too well with E standard tuning. That's Josh Midleton's clarity sound that I love so much in his heavy riffs Dropping to drop C and below to get the muddy sound would ruin that - and therefore the riffs
10:43 My childhood!! This is why I really got into the Sonic games. From Sonic Adventure through Sonic Heroes, the games always had great rock/metal songs. I'm hoping to cover some songs in the future, just need a guitar with a whammy bar lol
So cool to see the band Cynic in recent UA-cam vids, I saw them open up for Carcass in the early '90s and they really changed my understanding of how versatile "heavy" music is. Thanks for sharing Nik!
I love the weird look when you're playing the easy riffs that still sound badass in pantera and dillinger escape plan. And the stuff that has you stretching along the fretboard rather than just hitting powerchords is great. All the math metal stuff kinda belongs on its own. It's beyond heavy, where few men dare tread.
@@No1WillMakeItOutAlive i think he meant chugs* plural cause it seems like the only way to truly get heavy with E riffs is to have lots of fast tight chugs in polyrhythmic patterns jumping back and forth between that and dissonance on the highs
@@No1WillMakeItOutAlive or like some of the groovier gojira riffs that chug an inverted power chord on the bottom two strings which would sound just as chunky and menacing in E if played with such brutal precision and groove as them
My top 5 are: 05. Megadeth - Washington Is Next! 04. Winds of Plague - Anthems of Apocalypse 03. Dream Theater - Forsaken 02. Insurrection - Trivium 01. God Has Fallen - Mors Principium Est
There was this local band “the Viking” and they played all in E standard and they were fucking brutal. When I found that out I was thoroughly impressed
That is the unfortunate reality. Imagine how many songs are there in this world rn from the beginning? Im pretty sure someone already did it somewhere. BUT, not original does not mean you can't be different.
Remember what you hear in your head no one else does .you could take the same exact chords and it will sound completely different due to your right hand rhythm and the way you think if that makes sense lol.
Amazing video and a great choice of riffs! I'm extremly happy that you included Celtic Frost and Opeth. What a glorious compilation of awesome tunes. Thank you for that.
Surprised to see Pain of Salvation get a shoutout. Came for Dream Theater expecting Pull Me Under, but got Constant Motion instead, reminding me that it's a great heavy riff!
Imo, Megadeth was never that heavy when they played E standard. They were fast as fuck and thrashy, but never really heavy. Maybe I missed a song or 2, so if you feel that I'm wrong please recommend something.
@Lee McDonald no listen dont get me wrong they are heavy. But megadeth is more about the speed. Becasue .Metallica are not really a thrash group. Master of puppets and and justice for all arnt fast albums. Sure they have fast moments but most of it is slow and head crushing. But megadeth dont reallly have those slow moments its mostly the faster moments. If you know what i mean. Idk if that doesnt make sense thats fine its just my opinion. \m/
Asparagus No, I’m not. I completely understand that metal uses all the guitar strings. But most riffs are made of the Open lowest string and some other notes. What I mean with this comment is riffs that don’t focus in the lowest string. For example riffs that are focused in the Open A string, instead of the Open Low E, or even riffs that don’t even use open strings.
@@beenmicrophone5817 Blackwater park, Still life, Ghost reveries, Deliverance are essential Opeth albums. Blackwater park is proboably my favorite but only by a hair.
@@beenmicrophone5817 Still Life easily. I've enjoyed all of them except for Heritage (their first album after they stopped playing Metal), but Still Life just sticks out. Mature songwriting, tons of prog influence without becoming "many unrelated riffs in random order" that some of their later stuff suffered a bit from.
@@beenmicrophone5817 that's an excellent album. Hard to go wrong with their other albums (up until sorceress where they changed their style completely).
It isn’t in the pitch of a riff, it’s in it’s in a riff’s intervals. A riff will always sound roughly the same in standard on a six string as it did in standard on a seven string. You don’t need drop B. You just need drop D. The riff to Panic Attack (Dream Theater) is always crazy heavy and fast, whether in A# standard (tuning in the original version) or in E standard.
@@noobguitarist843 they perhaps add nuance (which does factor into heaviness, a riff will basically be heavy until you fully understand it, and have burnt out on it), and bring it closer to the bass range. It's inconsistent, i'd say. I kinda agree with you. I should have clarified: It's _mostly_ in the intervals of a riff, more so than in the pitch.
Listaa !! Opeth - Heir Apparent Trivium - Ignition Sylosis - Teras Matellica - For Whom The Bell Winds Of Plague - Approach The Podium Dimmu Borgir - Kings Of The Carnival Creation Pestilence - Horror Detox Burzum - Lost Wistom Annihilator - Set The World On Fire Sabaton - Panzerkampf Pantera - Domination Primus - The Heckler Ensiferum - Twilight Tavern Darkthrone - Alp Man Racer X- Yro Winds of Plague - Decimate the Weak Volbeat - Seal the Deal Anthrax - I am The Law The Dillianger Escape Plan- 43% Burnt Megadeth - Symphony of Destruction Morsw Principium Est- Destroyed of All Black Sabbath - War Pigs White Zombie - Thunder Kiss '65 Moonsorrow - Suden Tunti Cynic - How Could I Psyopus - Insects Dissection - Frozen Quo Vadis - I Believe Sodom - Agent Orange Naglfar - Blades Sylosis - After Lifeless Years Converge - Shallow Breathing 1349 - Pandemonium War Bells Sepultura - Dead Embryonic Cells Rammstein - Du Hast Rage Against The Machine - Bombtrack Pain of Salvation - Foreword Nirvana - Smell Like Teen Spirit Ne Obliviscaris - As Icicles Fall Mayhem - Freezing Moon Liquid Tension Experiment - When The water Breaksw Leprous - Red Kreatot - Agents Of Brutality Judas Priest - Painkiller Immortal - Solarfall Emperor - Beyond The Great Vast Forest Obituary - Slowly We Rot Dream Theater - Constant Motion Suicidal Tendencies - Slubiminal Devin Townsend - Vampira Deftones - Engine No9 Deathpell Omega - Si MOnument Coroner - Masked Jackal Celtic Frost- Eternal Summers Blut Aus Nord - The Cosmic Echoes ... Crush 40 - Live and Lean Dio - Holy Diver Opeth - Deliverance Sabaton - Caralus Rex Metallica - Master of Puppets The Fall TroyF.C.p.r.e.m.i.x. Trivium - Insurrection Thrice - AsThe Ruin Falls Carpathian Forest - Bloodlust And Pervesion TEstament - OVer the Wall Pantera - Sheddig Skin Megadeth - Holy Wars The Punishmen Due Sylosis - Empyreal Slayer - Tormentor Metallica - Enter Sandman Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train Iron Maiden - The Trooper The Dillinger Escape Plan - Limerent Death Perdon si alguno lo escribí mal :')
@@n00bguitarist88 Me too, I really miss playing in E Standard but my strings will break if I tune up, so I really understand your situation. Edit: I'll start to use less thick strings
Fuckin smacked that like button as soon as I saw Ne Obliviscaris. Absolutely love this showcase of old and modern metal using standard tuning effectively.
Cool video! I hadn't heard of most of those bands, so this was a great "ear opener" to new, killer Metal that we would NEVER hear on the Radio. As a sidenote, that E-II Esp is a fantastic guitar ;)
Never heard it until now, but some of these tunes like "Kings Of The Carnival Creation" or "Decimate The Weak" are heavy as fuck. If I didn't know it, I would *not* have believed it E Standard.
So many bands coming up on this that I haven't listened to in a long time. This is just making me want to stay up all night and revisit some of my favorite songs
Yeessss I love it how you included some good old classic black metal on the list they've got some heavy riffs in standard tuning particularly dissection, emperor and immortal and freezing moon by mayhem is a good one. Sylosis is undeniably my favourite band currently they're just a solid band and Josh Middleton is such a beast they know how to do standard tuning properly and still rip it with some heavy ass shit
10:42 NO! The song brings me back to when I was obsessed with Sonic the hedgehog a few years ago. How dare u remind me of such cringy times (the soundtrack is really good tho. I was just messing around)
To everyone who is saying something along the lines of “tuning down is dumb and isn’t heavy”: A heavy riff will be heavy no matter the tuning, yes. However, lower tunings effect harmonic content, and relative harmonic content to amp and pedal equalization. In theory, it would be possible to “tune an amp up” as in tune it so it treated things in standard tuning the same way an average amp treats lower frequencies, but this is yet to be done (if you like, I can go into this from a physics point of view as I am well versed in the physics of sound). Lower tuning effects TONE, and tone does effect if things are heavy or not. Ever play super heavy bangers on an ac30 or a jc120? No. Because tone does effect heavyness. By tuning down you are shifting the way an amp reacts because of the different overtones. as well as because guitar amps are designed to treat different frequencies differently, and drive them differently. In addition, music is a cultural practice, and when playing in droped or lowered tunings, one is building on different history of music, and different backgrounds. Did we all start tuning down mostly because a teenage tony iommi cut off his fingers? Kind of? By tuning down so that he could play, he influenced people, and those people tuned down as well. Anyways, tuning down is a valid musical decision for the reasons listed above, and there’s no reason anyone should give anyone else shot for doing so. With all of that said, there’s still absolutely NOTHING wrong with playing heavy in standard either. I’m just kind of sick of people being opposed to down tuning for no real reason. I have guitars in standard that I play metal in, because that’s a whole different tone and history, just like I have guitars down to Gb.
Tuning down isn't dumb, it creates a "heavier" sound due to the lower frequencies but that doesn't necessarily mean a riff composed with a low tuning will always be heavier than one composed with standard tuning. It isn't hard.
@@AFN2750 Thanks for attacking their point with valid and clear argumentations dude. You're not boring by the way, the thing is the average Internet user whose point you're arguing would probably just scroll over your comment, because not many people are willing to have serious conversations on the Internet now, sadly.
"Cemetary gates" by Pantera in A=432 Hz is REALLY heavy, as well as the SLIGHTLY sharpened riff in "Balls to the wall" by Accept. "Damage control" by John Petrucci.
Not gonna lie, I wasn’t expecting to see Primus on here but I’m definitely happy they are since Ler comes up with such cool guitar parts that perfectly compliment the clusterfuck that is Les Claypool’s bass playing. Such a criminally underrated guitarist imo
“e standard isn’t heavy”
“that is lie”
*intro continues in drop z flat*
Lol
T H A T I S L I E
It's actually Drop G
LmaO
theinfinityscout it’s actually Nobody Asked
Slayer - Crionics
Metallica - Harvester of Sorrow
Coroner - Internal Conflicts
Harvester is and always be a banger
I prefer freyed ends of sanity over harvester personally
Kyle Knapp so do I. My second favourite Metallica song, just behind the Outlaw Torn
Megadeth - The Conjuring
Judas Kiss’s chorus riff is heavy af too.
9:12 A riff so heavy I can no longer hear anything, and I think my ears are bleeding. Send help.
Nah bro the audio just got fucked up, ur good.
Copyright
@@adamabdelfattah9040 I think he was joking
Scott Laser I don’t think it’s heavy but I still like it
Zaden Snyder yea same
"if your riff isn't heavy in standard, it's not heavy, it's just low."
The heaviness of E tuning is dissonant.
The heaviness of the lower tunings is "thicker".
There's just different kinds of heaviness
If people took the time to learn musical theory and scales they would learn what scales to base their riffs on to make them sound dark in e standard.
It may be cool to see a “Best melodies of *blank genre*” series
Or "Heaviest riffs" from "X genre"
Please Nick! We'll love this!
Best Melodies
*Ink intensifies*
*A7X intensifies*
I might do "heaviest riffs" from a genre, it's been on the to-do list but not sure when to start it is all.
@@NikNocturnal thats would be awsome
Austyn Kozak basically any A7X solo
The “You don’t have to detune your guitar” group requests your location
:O
@@NikNocturnal😮😮😮
Imagine being able to play 70 riffs
Hamza Khan couldn’t possibly be me
Hamza Khan dang i feel that...
@@AcousticOlli Interesting
@@AcousticOlli It's not the learning as much as memorising 70 in your head.
MrOlliguitar Huh. Puppets is hard? Now that I’ve been playing for a couple more years I never noticed puppets was a bit difficult. I’m sure I struggled when I was learning it way back, which makes sense. Or you can just learn the whole master of puppets album, solos and all, it helped me get my down picking to the point where it was second nature, and got me into soloing way back. I do believe a more difficult riff would be battery or fight fire with Fire. But that doesn’t matter, I still have a lot more to learn, I would say i still suck.
E standard isn’t heavy!
Breakdown in Domination: *Laughs in hidden*
Domination is actually tuned 1/4 step down on the album
jeroen van den noordt Not in moscow 1991
@@lambsauce9404 in Moscow Eb
@@kamilgainutdinov7540 Yeah but still
it was Eb I think
One of my favorites in E standard is 7 Words by Deftones, the riff always gets me going
The breakdown riff, oof
Facts bro
'Malpractice' and 'Jizzlobber' by Faith No More are two of the heaviest songs in standard I've ever heard.
Edit: I think 7 Words might actually be in drop D.
@@olivermahoney3429 im sure a lot of people play 7 words in drop d but I'm pretty sure all of adrenaline was played by Deftones in standard
@@ash_aidenAdrenaline was all standard and Drop D.
*Showing "dad rock tuning" is heavy 1 juicy riff at a time*
EDIT: Had to sadly cut Opeth - Deliverance, Sylosis - After Lifeless Years & Pantera - Domination short due to my good old friend copyright...
Comment your favorites riffs down below!
Nik, my man... you're the best. Thank you for your inspirational perseverance and work ethic.🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️
i love you you mad lad
E standard needs to be renamed to dad-tuning
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere about DADGAD
Please can you make a cover of song greatest generation of band all that remains.
No Destruction riff!!!
3:10 it's crazy how when you palm-mute those 2 bottom strings, you could almost swear it's drop A. Adding the lowest note of the power chord doesn't mean a huge difference. So deathcore in E standard is totally possible.
Yeah, it's an inverted power chord, the fifth and the root are switched. In standard, the root note would be on the A string, therefore it's equivalent to a standard powerchord with an E string tuned down to A. My favourite example is Sylosis - Servitude, check it out.
Winds of plague everything untill against the world (including) is in e standard
@@robertwoods5168 Servitude is a behemoth of a song, that riff literally feels like a semi truck smashing into your skull
Think you need them ears checking mate
And when you play 002 in e standard in any manner, everyone thinks you're in drop a since it sounds the same with 000 in drop a.
Now do it an octave down!
thats what i thought he was going to do at first
And its gonna sounds like a fart...
That will be a bass guitar...
To anyone saying it’ll sound like a fart or a bass lol it would actually be (basically) 8 string tuning and most of the songs would still sound great. As some of them would just need to stay right where they are. Listen to some within the ruins to hear some 9 string tuning and see if it sounds like a fart lmao
@@99shredder Tosin abasi 8 strings but standard E big difference. Riff makes music heavy not the downtuning.
2:57, that's one of the heaviest riffs I've ever heard let alone being in e standard
I was honestly super surprised
How do you even get those noises out of your guitar in e standard
@@bloodblade58 palm muting and heavy chords mate
@@recruitdifficulty1638 I mean yeah. But for some reason I can hit the same notes and mine just sounds flimsier. Im sure there is a lot of technique I dont quite have down but still mine sounds super thin.
@@bloodblade58 maybe a weak guitar. Just place the finger on the first three strings on any fret and there. But maybe you got weak strings idk
The question is. Are the bands making music for guitar players or for people in general? Cause literally the only people who cares about tuning are the guitar players.
Alt. Intro:
Standard tuning is not heavy "E"nough
Alright “Not heav(E) enough also works
Yes
The post-solo riff in Metallica - The Struggle Within is heavy as balls
am i savage breakdown
don't tread on me is pretty good, too
@@siggiarabi Isn't Am I Savage in Eb? Could be wrong tho
Georgiy Kireev on the album it’s in E standard. Metallica live is Eb (for most songs)
@@georgiykireev9678 studio version as far as i know is e standard
Ok guys. It's pretty easy to get confused with Metallica and their alternate tunings, especially when some albums have like 4 or 5 of them.
"E StAnDaRD iSn'T HEAvY"
Vektor : *Proceeds to melt everyone's face with F standard*
So does that mean they tune up a half step then?
@@andrewpappas9311 yup. You should check their album Terminal Redux out.
Or an octave lower
@@rodrigovelasco5322 it' fucked up, but they really tune up
@@michsolcki4370 bet they need 08-38 gauge strings then
9:12 that riff from the song Copyright is probably the heaviest riff of the entire decade.
10:43 Sonic Adventure 2 jumpscare what?! Wasn't expecting Crush 40 on here I'm so happy to see Live and Learn get some love outside of the Sonic fandom
Sylosis has entered chat
Definitely my favourite band atm
Been a huge fan of these guys for close to a decade now and I Sever blew my mind yet again. Thank you Josh Middleton.
Of course
@@DREADDWELLER same. they just can't release something bad. even got a dormant heart tattooed all over my chest & got the chance to show Ali one year ago
@@RemusHerciu That's awesome dude! Dying to see the guys live, unfortunately I haven't caught any of their Oslo shows :(
Sylosis, such an underrated band. SO glad to see them in a video.
Ok . but where is the most heaviest riff ?
0-3-5 ?????
What about wonderwall?
@@depressedfrogpenis i dont think he likes grindcore.
It's actually stairway to heaven. It's so heavy it's banned in guitar stores
Definitely not. Dropped E
0, 1, 3, 4,
Nah bro it’s that 0-3-2-1
"E Standard isnt heavy"
Opeth: Hold my beer/Håll min öl
Edit: it's obvious some people dont understand the joke, so let me spell it out for you. It's about how opeth released their last record in both english and swedish.
Hannu Johansson even though he didn’t put them on here, Deicide’s first two albums were E standard. Those two albums have some of their best riffs imo
@@tannermullins3714 I think one of the first songs was an Opeth song that slid by the Copyright Guards.
Sylosis: hold my flask
@@Christian-my4dp yes, sylosis has the best by far tbh
Metallica: Hold my money
6:16 Anything off of Arise could be in this list. I remember picking up tabs to learn "Desperate Cry" and thinking... "this is in standard?!"
Here’s a challenge, heaviest riffs in alternate/ odd tunings. Ex. Humanity’s last breath and dream theater
Anthony Sanchez Outshined, Them Bones, and basically any Tool song. Some of the songs would be hard to learn *AHEM* (Dream Theater) but easy to find riffs.
glass cloud
Structures
I could imagine him just whipping out abyssal mouth and only doing the drug out chugs in the beginning
Would definitely call for some Devy, dude writes in open C. Hella weird.
i can honestly say i never knew Winds Of Plague was in E Standard. so crazy, but it sounds so damn good too.
especially seeing them live. just holy shit
i played with them round about a year ago for the decimate the weak 10th anniversary tour
i'm fairly certain that everything after the great war is not in standard, but dtw and tgw are both e standard!
Yeah they got some heavy af riffs!
Honestly same, but for me it was As Icicles Fall by Ne Obliviscaris. I thought they used B standard 7 strings across their entire discography...
well i didn't mean EVERYTHING is in standard E. but that wasn't clear in my original comment lol
still, crazy to think about that heaviness in that turning haha
As the early Winds or Plague albums are in E standard they like to do 4th chords on the low E and A strings so it’s like doing a power chord on a 7 string but the 7th string isn’t there. Give a tight heavy and “lower than E” sound cause technically you can make it go down to an A sound
I think the thing with E standard is that its heavy riffs always sound really tight.
My favorite riff by the way will always be from Heir Apparent. That riff just annihilates me every time I listen to it.
Tight is the perfect way to describe it- if you watch rob scallon's 12 string capo metal video you'll hear the same thing but to an extreme
@@shanepartridge2744 i describe it as tight and Harsh
Exactly what i thought after tuning my guitar to standard for the first time in years, this sounds tight af.
Tbf he didn't play it right way
Chunky riffs all day
Sylosis kills standard tuning!!! I was just waiting to see that riff from Empyreal and you didn't disappoint!! Glad to see they got a good amount of love on here. Winds of Plague too! And of course, Dillinger!!! E standard can def be heavy af! I will forever love Eb standard though, one of my favorite tunings. That half step under just hits different, I can thank Dime for that.
I knew this dude in high school that played guitar and he was mostly into Metallica, Floyd, Zeppelin, etc but he always said that Dillinger riff was insane. He must have asked me if I had heard that song at least 4 times in a single semester
Sylosis are amazing at making E standard sound just as heavy as any drop tuning, even thought it’s more about the riff then the tubing anyways. Don’t forget Opeth who I also think make amazing E Standard death metal riffs when everyone else in death metal at the time would downtune no matter what
Yeah OPETH and Sylosis absolutely dominated this for me
Sylosis tone fits damn too well with E standard tuning. That's Josh Midleton's clarity sound that I love so much in his heavy riffs
Dropping to drop C and below to get the muddy sound would ruin that - and therefore the riffs
Opeths heir apparent is the heaviest song ever wrote in E standard imo
The fact Live and Learn is in this just shows how great Nik is 🤘
Yes! I got so hyped when I heard live and learn.
Crush 40 SA1 & 2 both kick some serious ass
ngl open your heart would've been a better pick imo, but crush 40 slaps either way
Aha thank you! I was debating putting it on here since it's not a super "heavy" riff but something about it just gives you a rush of energy
Nik Nocturnal yeah I get what you mean! Glad you put it on, great video!
This guy finally got into Sylosis 😭😍 and he knows after lifeless years...their best one
Aha yeah they're awesome!
Amazing song, but I wouldn't say best. Definitely their most popular song by far. If Nik covered Altered States of Conciousness, I'd poop my pants.
10:43 My childhood!! This is why I really got into the Sonic games. From Sonic Adventure through Sonic Heroes, the games always had great rock/metal songs. I'm hoping to cover some songs in the future, just need a guitar with a whammy bar lol
Honestly, music from the Sonic games just slap in general
@@andrewpappas9311 don’t forget mega man and Zelda
@@Noah-ct2me Oh yeah, Zelda music is great as well
So cool to see the band Cynic in recent UA-cam vids, I saw them open up for Carcass in the early '90s and they really changed my understanding of how versatile "heavy" music is. Thanks for sharing Nik!
When you realize Sonic The Hedgehog is Metal AF
Nesto at least the soundtrack for that game was! 🤘
That game was the soundtrack to my early teens
@@NikNocturnal ilysfm u can has my bebes anytime u want #sanic4lyfe
If you transpose to guitar, MANY Genesis and NES games are totally metal! Super shredding metal
there's literally a METAL sonic in the game
Winds Of Plague & Sylosis, the most brutal stuff on E standard
The great stone war was so perfect.
and dillinger esc plan
43% burned is the #1 for me on this whole list. It just hits in such a particular way
I love how he didn’t do anything in symphony of destruction
And Domination by Pantera.
Probably because those are expected, probs wanted something fresh
Oh I assumed they'd been cut for copyright reasons lol
@@macerra4401 I thought this too. You're probably right.
@@macerra4401 they were
Something I never considered with these videos is how much you have to program drums for every fucking riff. Like holy shit that’s dedication.
Me: “E standard is NOT Heavy”
(For Whom The Bell Tolls starts)
Me: “Mannnn this song is so heavy”
GG
Hippo crit
Somehow heavier when James does it
Ride the lighting is a heavy album
I would've done fight fire with fire
*Domination breakdown intensifies*
This isn't standard but Cattle Decapitation is only tuned to Eb which is pretty damn impressive. Definitely a worthy mention.
Love how Pantera and Megadeth didn’t require more than a split second
Those songs got copyright claimed by the artists
Or perhaps the Label
Breakdown In panteras domination is the pinnacle of E standard, all down hill from there
Domination is not was is the video right? Because i dont find it.
I'm fucking love Pantera
@@balintpetervari8450 it was after panzerkampf from sabaton for less than a second
@@balintpetervari8450 2:14
Bálint Pétervári 2:14
Ya but I seriously don’t know how slaughtered isn’t on this list
Had me at Sonic adventure 2 Battle riff not gonna lie
I was so fucking happy to see it there
:D
Never heard heavier riffs than Sylosis ones in standard tuning
Pantera - Stronger than all
Pantera and Sepultura made riffs heavier than Sylosis
Calling things 'heavy' is annoying now
@@jalapenopoggers8310 agree
@@luizoli7268 ehhhhhh, not really, love me some sepultura but i think sylosis is a lot heavier
Heavy E standard riffs? Well, that'll be the entire Sylosis back catalogue.
Pretty much
Power Trip...
Thanks for giving me riffs to play because of my floyd rose stuck in standard
Haha Same
I love the weird look when you're playing the easy riffs that still sound badass in pantera and dillinger escape plan. And the stuff that has you stretching along the fretboard rather than just hitting powerchords is great. All the math metal stuff kinda belongs on its own. It's beyond heavy, where few men dare tread.
THE heaviness is in the tone, fingers and the amount of *CHUG!* and technical grooviness that comes into the riffs. And that’s just my statement.
Lower tunings can help in the chug tho tbf
Also drums
@@No1WillMakeItOutAlive i think he meant chugs* plural cause it seems like the only way to truly get heavy with E riffs is to have lots of fast tight chugs in polyrhythmic patterns jumping back and forth between that and dissonance on the highs
Psyfonify ya I agree, like 43% burnt. Panic chords don’t need that low of chugs to hit hard
@@No1WillMakeItOutAlive or like some of the groovier gojira riffs that chug an inverted power chord on the bottom two strings which would sound just as chunky and menacing in E if played with such brutal precision and groove as them
My top 5 are:
05. Megadeth - Washington Is Next!
04. Winds of Plague - Anthems of Apocalypse
03. Dream Theater - Forsaken
02. Insurrection - Trivium
01. God Has Fallen - Mors Principium Est
Wait a minute, Insurrection is E Standard? Are you kidding me? 😀
In Torment by MPE is really nice btw
And Apprentice Of Death
Reclaim The Sun too
metalfreekz13 forsaken is in D
About dream theater, I prefer In the presence of enemies and Constant Motions
The time has come. We have truly mastered the art of “heavy riffage”. Thank you sensei🙏
*backflips away like a badass*
Lmao perfect
Thank you Nik Nocturnal for restoring my faith in E Standard... \m/
There was this local band “the Viking” and they played all in E standard and they were fucking brutal. When I found that out I was thoroughly impressed
The inclusion of Domination is a most welcome one.
I would have added the breakdown riff from Am I Savage?. It's the heaviest riff I know in standard tuning.
That really is a killer riff.
Ever heard Pantera- Domination
I’ve never seen Ne Obliviscaris in any “top” list ❤️ I really wanted to see the outro riff to Leave No Stone by Intervals though
M'aiq The Liar Ne O is wayyyyy too slept on considering they’re one of the best modern bands out there rn
I've come to the conclusion that every possible riff has already been written. Anything I "write" now will just be plagiarism.
That’s how I felt once! You eventually pass that plateau if you broaden your horizons and learn new songs in new styles you didn’t know before :)
Gotta write in unconvention time sigs and weird scales. Tony Iommi alone has devesitated our chances at original riffs
That is the unfortunate reality. Imagine how many songs are there in this world rn from the beginning? Im pretty sure someone already did it somewhere. BUT, not original does not mean you can't be different.
ehhh to a degree, but music is art just like painting. Just because someone else discovered the colour blue doesn’t mean you cant use the colour blue
Remember what you hear in your head no one else does .you could take the same exact chords and it will sound completely different due to your right hand rhythm and the way you think if that makes sense lol.
10:46 ok I didn't see that one coming
Amazing video and a great choice of riffs! I'm extremly happy that you included Celtic Frost and Opeth. What a glorious compilation of awesome tunes. Thank you for that.
Surprised to see Pain of Salvation get a shoutout. Came for Dream Theater expecting Pull Me Under, but got Constant Motion instead, reminding me that it's a great heavy riff!
"E standard isn't heavy"
Megadeth: *are you sure about that*
Yes
Megadeth makes e standard NOT sound heavy lmao
Imo, Megadeth was never that heavy when they played E standard. They were fast as fuck and thrashy, but never really heavy. Maybe I missed a song or 2, so if you feel that I'm wrong please recommend something.
@@kevah94 youre right. They werent really heavy like Metallica slayer or dream theater. But they are fast and technical.
But youre right!
@Lee McDonald no listen dont get me wrong they are heavy. But megadeth is more about the speed. Becasue .Metallica are not really a thrash group. Master of puppets and and justice for all arnt fast albums. Sure they have fast moments but most of it is slow and head crushing. But megadeth dont reallly have those slow moments its mostly the faster moments. If you know what i mean. Idk if that doesnt make sense thats fine its just my opinion. \m/
liked just for the inclusion of "Vampira" by Devin Townsend. One of the mere four songs he's ever done in E (barring demos)
True king among all tunings. A well crafted riff is a well crafted riff
I would prefer C standard TBH but it's harder to learn in because history and availability of e standard classic rock till now.
Annihilator, Opeth, Sylosis and Crush 40 in the same bundle?
This is love.
7:45: smells like demonatization
Pretty much
Why
If not for that 1:41 will definitely get it demonotized
Black metal is a dangerous game
Ah, would love a Spotify playlist
I think someone has been making one for these vids, they're the real MVP
Nik Nocturnal how do i can find them? You should name him in the desc btw
@@cactusdemar open.spotify.com/playlist/1F5IAE7QdkjKd0aSPF869a?si=Zlsm_TzkQLOAnuHZuC-jvg
Jaroslav Staněk Local Hero! 😎
Seriously man your video just opened up a huge array of new songs to learn! Cheers! Also your riffing rocks and so does that sexy guitar!
Your encyclopedic knowledge of the subject matter is quite impressive. Well done, sir.
You covered most tunings.
How about “heaviest riffs that aren’t focused on the lowest string”?
Or something like that
Rafael Orsato Silveira are you new to metal or...?
Asparagus No, I’m not.
I completely understand that metal uses all the guitar strings. But most riffs are made of the Open lowest string and some other notes.
What I mean with this comment is riffs that don’t focus in the lowest string.
For example riffs that are focused in the Open A string, instead of the Open Low E, or even riffs that don’t even use open strings.
he's gonna do experimental and alternate tunings next hopefully
Dyers eve
Seek and Destroy Exactly
the trooper sounds empty without louder bass :(
Opeth has the ability to make complete silence a work of art, though.
When I heard their tracks I was legit blown away
What so u think is opeths best album? I've only really sunk my teeth into Blackwater park. N damn dude, that album does weird things to me 😐 🤘🤘🤘
@@beenmicrophone5817 Blackwater park, Still life, Ghost reveries, Deliverance are essential Opeth albums. Blackwater park is proboably my favorite but only by a hair.
@@beenmicrophone5817 Still Life easily. I've enjoyed all of them except for Heritage (their first album after they stopped playing Metal), but Still Life just sticks out. Mature songwriting, tons of prog influence without becoming "many unrelated riffs in random order" that some of their later stuff suffered a bit from.
@@beenmicrophone5817 that's an excellent album. Hard to go wrong with their other albums (up until sorceress where they changed their style completely).
It isn’t in the pitch of a riff, it’s in it’s in a riff’s intervals. A riff will always sound roughly the same in standard on a six string as it did in standard on a seven string. You don’t need drop B. You just need drop D. The riff to Panic Attack (Dream Theater) is always crazy heavy and fast, whether in A# standard (tuning in the original version) or in E standard.
yep but lower tunings does help make it heavier (but not always)
@@noobguitarist843 they perhaps add nuance (which does factor into heaviness, a riff will basically be heavy until you fully understand it, and have burnt out on it), and bring it closer to the bass range. It's inconsistent, i'd say. I kinda agree with you. I should have clarified: It's _mostly_ in the intervals of a riff, more so than in the pitch.
Listaa !!
Opeth - Heir Apparent
Trivium - Ignition
Sylosis - Teras
Matellica - For Whom The Bell
Winds Of Plague - Approach The Podium
Dimmu Borgir - Kings Of The Carnival Creation
Pestilence - Horror Detox
Burzum - Lost Wistom
Annihilator - Set The World On Fire
Sabaton - Panzerkampf
Pantera - Domination
Primus - The Heckler
Ensiferum - Twilight Tavern
Darkthrone - Alp Man
Racer X- Yro
Winds of Plague - Decimate the Weak
Volbeat - Seal the Deal
Anthrax - I am The Law
The Dillianger Escape Plan- 43% Burnt
Megadeth - Symphony of Destruction
Morsw Principium Est- Destroyed of All
Black Sabbath - War Pigs
White Zombie - Thunder Kiss '65
Moonsorrow - Suden Tunti
Cynic - How Could I
Psyopus - Insects
Dissection - Frozen
Quo Vadis - I Believe
Sodom - Agent Orange
Naglfar - Blades
Sylosis - After Lifeless Years
Converge - Shallow Breathing
1349 - Pandemonium War Bells
Sepultura - Dead Embryonic Cells
Rammstein - Du Hast
Rage Against The Machine - Bombtrack
Pain of Salvation - Foreword
Nirvana - Smell Like Teen Spirit
Ne Obliviscaris - As Icicles Fall
Mayhem - Freezing Moon
Liquid Tension Experiment - When The water Breaksw
Leprous - Red
Kreatot - Agents Of Brutality
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Immortal - Solarfall
Emperor - Beyond The Great Vast Forest
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Dream Theater - Constant Motion
Suicidal Tendencies - Slubiminal
Devin Townsend - Vampira
Deftones - Engine No9
Deathpell Omega - Si MOnument
Coroner - Masked Jackal
Celtic Frost- Eternal Summers
Blut Aus Nord - The Cosmic Echoes ...
Crush 40 - Live and Lean
Dio - Holy Diver
Opeth - Deliverance
Sabaton - Caralus Rex
Metallica - Master of Puppets
The Fall TroyF.C.p.r.e.m.i.x.
Trivium - Insurrection
Thrice - AsThe Ruin Falls
Carpathian Forest - Bloodlust And Pervesion
TEstament - OVer the Wall
Pantera - Sheddig Skin
Megadeth - Holy Wars The Punishmen Due
Sylosis - Empyreal
Slayer - Tormentor
Metallica - Enter Sandman
Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train
Iron Maiden - The Trooper
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Limerent Death
Perdon si alguno lo escribí mal :')
Mayhem during De Mysteriis Dom Satanas played half a step down
Damn I can only imagine learning and practicing 70 riffs for one video, well done!
I thought you were gonna tune the guitar an entire octave down lol
Aha naw gotta do the classic one first
Nik Nocturnal .... I kinda would like to see that
that’s just a bass at that point
@@themreyeballs double Drop d is drop d for bass
Haken enters the chat.
After watching this video:
I'll turn my guitar back to E standard
Ah yes, Finally tuning, my favorite
@@maximilianodelrio Holy S*it... Thanks pal, I was hurry to write and I wrote that.
I would do that too, but my neck would break coz i have thicc ass strings
@@n00bguitarist88 Me too, I really miss playing in E Standard but my strings will break if I tune up, so I really understand your situation.
Edit: I'll start to use less thick strings
Just get another guitar. I've got one in E, one in drop C and an 8 string for when I'm feeling fruity.
Fuckin smacked that like button as soon as I saw Ne Obliviscaris. Absolutely love this showcase of old and modern metal using standard tuning effectively.
Dilllinger is incredible, calculating infinity blew my mind on first listen (along with all of their albums).
Cool video! I hadn't heard of most of those bands, so this was a great "ear opener" to new, killer Metal that we would NEVER hear on the Radio. As a sidenote, that E-II Esp is a fantastic guitar ;)
So glad you checked out Sylosis man!
So am I
@@NikNocturnal I was proud to be a fan of you when I saw After Lifeless Years m8 🤘
Now do E standard on bass
As a matter of fact, do a heaviest bass series
How dare you use such foul language in this comment section
It's all gonna be knocked loose. Guaranteed
Brbr Deng
We need bASS
@@restoringforce9893 What? Mentioning bass without Davie504's explicit prior permission?
*U N B E L I E V E A B L E*
*LMAO*
Candiria's "Surrealistic Madness" showed me what could be done with standard E and that's been my preference ever since! Awesome video and list!
As a guitarist, lists like these are great for inspiration. 🎸
Ay Dillinger finally makes it onto a list. E standard represent
Never heard it until now, but some of these tunes like "Kings Of The Carnival Creation" or "Decimate The Weak" are heavy as fuck. If I didn't know it, I would *not* have believed it E Standard.
Wasn’t expecting Live and Learn from Sonic Adventures 2, that gave me a nostalgia attack seeing that
So many bands coming up on this that I haven't listened to in a long time. This is just making me want to stay up all night and revisit some of my favorite songs
Yeessss I love it how you included some good old classic black metal on the list they've got some heavy riffs in standard tuning particularly dissection, emperor and immortal and freezing moon by mayhem is a good one. Sylosis is undeniably my favourite band currently they're just a solid band and Josh Middleton is such a beast they know how to do standard tuning properly and still rip it with some heavy ass shit
10:42 NO! The song brings me back to when I was obsessed with Sonic the hedgehog a few years ago. How dare u remind me of such cringy times (the soundtrack is really good tho. I was just messing around)
Even when the games become shit there's one thing we can count on and that's good sonic music
A heaviest video games riff video would be cool tho.
@@phantomtearsca so basically the Doom soundtrack
Such an awesome soundtrack
To everyone who is saying something along the lines of “tuning down is dumb and isn’t heavy”:
A heavy riff will be heavy no matter the tuning, yes. However, lower tunings effect harmonic content, and relative harmonic content to amp and pedal equalization. In theory, it would be possible to “tune an amp up” as in tune it so it treated things in standard tuning the same way an average amp treats lower frequencies, but this is yet to be done (if you like, I can go into this from a physics point of view as I am well versed in the physics of sound). Lower tuning effects TONE, and tone does effect if things are heavy or not. Ever play super heavy bangers on an ac30 or a jc120? No. Because tone does effect heavyness. By tuning down you are shifting the way an amp reacts because of the different overtones. as well as because guitar amps are designed to treat different frequencies differently, and drive them differently.
In addition, music is a cultural practice, and when playing in droped or lowered tunings, one is building on different history of music, and different backgrounds. Did we all start tuning down mostly because a teenage tony iommi cut off his fingers? Kind of? By tuning down so that he could play, he influenced people, and those people tuned down as well.
Anyways, tuning down is a valid musical decision for the reasons listed above, and there’s no reason anyone should give anyone else shot for doing so.
With all of that said, there’s still absolutely NOTHING wrong with playing heavy in standard either. I’m just kind of sick of people being opposed to down tuning for no real reason. I have guitars in standard that I play metal in, because that’s a whole different tone and history, just like I have guitars down to Gb.
A G 💤
Tuning down isn't dumb, it creates a "heavier" sound due to the lower frequencies but that doesn't necessarily mean a riff composed with a low tuning will always be heavier than one composed with standard tuning. It isn't hard.
Xenoghost I completely agree with you, but there are a LOT of people who say it is, and I wanted to attack their point not their perspective.
screambluemurder101 yes I’m a boring person, I get it
@@AFN2750 Thanks for attacking their point with valid and clear argumentations dude. You're not boring by the way, the thing is the average Internet user whose point you're arguing would probably just scroll over your comment, because not many people are willing to have serious conversations on the Internet now, sadly.
Imagine knowing 70 riffs but end up playing smoke on the water at a guitar store
That‘s a sad Moment
I hate it man, its a plague for us intermediates lol
Stage fright i guess lol
"Cemetary gates" by Pantera in A=432 Hz is REALLY heavy, as well as the SLIGHTLY sharpened riff in "Balls to the wall" by Accept. "Damage control" by John Petrucci.
Like for Dissection man... Great job and Greetings from Poland!!!
Not gonna lie, I wasn’t expecting to see Primus on here but I’m definitely happy they are since Ler comes up with such cool guitar parts that perfectly compliment the clusterfuck that is Les Claypool’s bass playing. Such a criminally underrated guitarist imo
Bathory - A Fine Day to Die. One of the heaviest songs I’ve ever heard and it’s all in E standard
Evelyn H. 🤘🤘
Awesome stuff. You should definitely do some Sylosis covers for 2020. 🤟
I was expecting Limerent Death for the entire video, was not disappointed, crazy song crazy riffs i love it
I've only ever watched two of your videos, but both have had some of my favourite bands in them, so I subbed. Keep on keepin' on