I have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis w/ 64,000 original miles from original owner... just bought it. He had reciepts for $2,100 within the last three months. He said give me $2,800 and its your's... it is now mine. 😊
Sounds good. Now go get some after market neoprene sway bar bushings front and rear to tighten up the suspension . Another thing people overlook is changing your rear end lube. I live in the south where it gets hot, so get the ROYAL PURPLE 75W-140 lube.(if you live where it's hot) it has the friction modifier in it. Takes 2 1/2 qts. Drain it, clean it out real good and put a new cover gasket also. I painted my rear end cover before I reinstalled it (dark grey) and REPLACE your vent hose with 5/16 fuel line. That is very important. Do that and you'll be good to go brother....
I actually sold this car this past January. Buut i missed and regretted it so much that this last Friday i picked up another one 😄. This ones way nicer, and much quicker then the silver one in the video. White 2011 P7b, with 99k miles and a whole bunch of goodies. Will post a video of that when i get around to it.
I have been on the fence about tuning my 03 P71. Listening to the down shift, 1 - 2 shift, and how the engine sounded, I am no longer on the fence. Absolutely going to be calling marty up for this tune, I plan on doing some bolt on mods soonish for my full stage one, but I think the tune alone will be the most important step. I understand he has a package where you send the new specs and he sends a new tune when you make upgrades. assuming that is still the thing, I will be spending a little more but I haven't found anyone anywhere near his price for a proper effective tune that makes such a dramatic difference in the overall performance. I am also looking into getting my transmission modified, but once again, finding that special jmod confident individual seems to be difficult. THANKS FOR THE VID!
Had a 97 Grand Marquis with a perf tune from 5 star, stock dual exhaust (was a single exhaust car) with Borlas, 3.73’s and the J mod done to the trans. It was a true sleeper. It was also lowered on LSC 16” wheels.
@@franceskamryn102transmission shift improver kit similar to a shift kit developed by Jerry who worked on the development of the 4 R 70 W transmission try Google it's your friend
Best bang for the buck mods are tuner and rear gears, it came with either 2.73 or 3.27 I believe put some 3.73s or 4 10s it with leave harder if your not spinning but gas mileage is gonna go done ,you may also go with aluminum drives haft and lighter wheels for less rotating mass, but you may not want all that for a daily
If by the run button, you mean secure idle (press a button and leave the car without the keys in but the engine on) most cop cars get that removed after service, or surprisingly a lot never have it in the first place, and just get left with the keys in the ignition. I made by own secure idle and installed it, it was quite easy.
I have a 2003 Grand Marquis. Recently had the transmission redone. Engine runs perfect.. car runs great but burns a couple of quarts a month but that's okay. Still a smooth comfortable car. I wish we had an exhaust sounding like yours.
I spent a load of money on the exhaust when i first bought the car to fix it because the previous owner cut three of the four cats off, and then it just turned into a whole rabbit hole of different mufflers. But the setup thats on it now is the perfect sound for me. Love it so much.
I've got a 2007 crown Vic,too. Mine sounds almost exactly like your's driving in it's stock tuning. Feels like it's in overdrive for too long sometimes but not doing much besides driving in 2500 rpms. Maybe i should try out Marty tune,too
whats different? and how does he tune it say if i have 24lb/hr injectors u just tell him and he works around it?? or u send ur ecu in? like how does he know what u need or is it just a generic 4.6 tune
@@Milpower i emailed him a while back and learned more about the process. its not worth it if you have no major mods and even then you should go to a reputable local shop over pre configured tunes from cars with the same mods bc theyre not exactly the same
Those are a couple upgrades that will not break the bank and make your car handle a lot better and you won't have to worry about any rear end whine or overheating.....
@Radiant DIY F all of that my car performs better than it did before I got the tune I can feel a difference and it behaves differently I can feel the difference idgaf about all that jazz you talking about and yes the things you mentioned are very beneficial but don't hate because you stuck in your closed minded ass ways sir have a nice day and CHILL OUT 🤷🏾♂️
@Radiant DIY STFU 🤡 now your just flat out getting annoying dude I'm gonna get a Marty tune on my town car when I get it too just to piss you off sir how about you get a tune and do all that BS and get on the Dyno and answer your own damn questions instead of being a troll or HATER or whatever you think you doing my money was WELL SPENT my car runs better for sure and I recommend it to anybody that can't afford all that extra shit (those extras will make ah huge difference on top of having a tune) but a tune alone will most def make a difference. I agree that all of those mods and a tune together will give you the most uumph but everybody can't afford or even want to do all of that
I guarantee if a stock Vic lines up with you and you have a tune you'll know what's up when you pull away from them like their jogging and your sprinting 🤷🏾♂️ FAWK what Radioactive DIY dickhole head ass is talking about the mods he listed are all great but not necessary to benefit from a tune
I got a marty tune for my 2000 Grand Marquis and I had to have him change a few things, mainly the wide open throttle shifts and shift firmness. Side note, he seemed upset that I wanted a few revisions until I got what I wanted. Don't let that dissuade you from getting the tune you want. You paid $535 for it. Anyway, it would shift out of first at like 60mph at WOT, which was ridiculous. If I hadn't had him change that, it would have eventually destroyed the torque converter. I asked him to lower the 1-2 shift to 4800rpm with transmission firmness to 6. I set the transmission firmness to +5 with the tuner and now it's perfect! Dosn't look like much on camera but it feels a lot better in person. Is it worth $500? Depends on how you feel after buying it. I had the money to spare and I enjoy driving it now more than ever so I'm satisfied.
Exactly how i feel about it. When i go back to the stock tune, i notice how much more enjoyable the custom Tune is and it makes it much more enjoyable.
@@Matt-Wynn is the trans original? Tuning the ECU helps but if you swap out the valves in the transmission it will perform great. and you got to push it harder. the electronic throttle will learn to be more aggressive.
@@aslant9246 To my knowledge yes, it is. I bought it at 123k miles from a dude that had it for two years all stock. But plan is im gonna get rid of it this coming spring to upgrade to a police charger, caprice, or a Mustang gt. Havent decided yet. Or im gonna keep it and turbo it or something lmao
Run premium fuel. Having the boost added, it's mandatory. Or you risk chipping pistons from donation issues. There's a big passability that your ECM is detecting KR and pulling timing. That'll rob you of a lot of power. Not familiar with that tuning platform you're using, but with HP Tuners you can use the scanning software program to check for KR and do a lot of other custom tuning. It's what I've been using for a few years now. That thing you're using reminds me of one of those hypertech tuners that has pre programmed canned tunes.
You have no idea what you're talking about maybe you should educate yourself before you make yourself look ignorant, this is definitely nothing like the hyper Junk can Tunes it's a custom tune from Marty and Jeff At mo's Speed Shop and they've been tuning these cars since they pretty much came out
I sold the car in January but still drove perfectly fine and way better than stock. The guy I sold it to is still driving it, and now i have another one that i got a few months ago that also is Marty tuned. Drives like a dream
@@Matt-Wynn thanks I have 2011 I asked because I want one but the down side is i spoke to Marty and he can’t ship it to me to California state restrictions, but I’ll get it somehow.
that cornering and power cut has happend to me for 3-4 years ..then my trans went out, got a rebuild and no more taking a corner and the trans lagging..i always thought this was a safety/fuel issue but nope...trans is worn and goin out. Same symptoms with low trans fluid
Silver! You dont really see that many at least around where im at. My buddys got one that was identical to this one. Sadly shes gone now, sold it to get my truck and i wish i kept it. Was a blast
@@Matt-Wynn my dad has a gunmetal gray lx sport (ex police chief car) I wrecked my truck then picked up a nearly identical one like 5 years later and we run around like a couple units side by side from time to time and it's pretty fun, no?
I just bought a 2000 crown vic off my buddy that has the exact same tuner and every time it shifts into third on the 87 tune and shuts down every light on the dash for a few seconds
2003 and up are what you want. They have the PI engine (2001+, Performance Improved), and the new-for-2003 suspension and steering upgrade which changes a boat that wallows in the corners into a vehicle that can holds its own against most. Personally I'd go 2005+ due to CANbus/DBW (much simpler overall setup). 2005-2008 seem to be the sweet spot; 2005 still has the 1996-2004 style instrument cluster (but can be swapped up if you're up to that task), and some don't like the quarter panel AM/FM antenna they have (only year to have this). 2009-2011 are hit and miss; build quality didn't seem as good in those years at least with consistency. 2011 has the cartoonishly large headrests.
There is but, its constantly under maintenance. You can find his email on there Facebook page, and email Marty directly with all of your questions. He replied super fast for me. Heres the link to their Facebook page: m.facebook.com/MosSpeedShop/
you can get better shifting with a J Mod drill the 10 hole to the larger size reconned remove both lower sprigs on the 3/4 accumulator and the stiffer lower spring on the 1/2 accumulator the cost is the fluid a drill bit and your time it will shift as good or better also get the Uhaul pan with plug while you have it off for easier maintenance in the future the rest of thee "performance benefits" aren't worth the added cost IMO
Okay, so i believe alls you would have to do is go to the facebook page, called Mo's Speedshop. On there you should be able to find Marty's email and phone number (the tuner) and he should be able to get you all the information on what you have to do. I just bought the whole package which was the tuner and his tunes that are personal to your car. It will be way cheaper since you already have an sct, but idk if it matters or not if it was previously married to another car if you have used it before. Im sure they can reset it easily but im not sure.
The main reason for the lag is you have throttle by wire where throttle by cable is 1000 times better. The throttle by wire is controlled by the computer which gives the delay
Vertically Driven Products VDP 31515 Black Locking Central Console a.co/d/8RsF0n4 This is the link for the one i got. It goes in and out of stock every now and again. Works great
Did you have lag on takeoff before the tune? Due to electronic throttle (drive by wire) I hear that’s why my 08 does it. Does getting the tune help with throttle response on takeoff? That is my least favorite part about my car
@@jarrodrobeck4527 awesome dude, i sold this car about 5 months ago, buut just today, i picked up a 2011 with 99k miles. This one is also marty tuned and it feels way better then the silver vic
@@juanray2614 i ordered it online through emailing him. Look up Mo's Speedshop on Facebook and hes got all the information on there. Im up here in Wisconsin
You might still have taller gears. Some P71s had 3.55 gear set. Yours may have the 3.27 or even the 2.73 highway gears. I put a 3.73 set in my LX Sport and the car responds much better but still only 2300 RPM at 70 and 23 MPG or better if I baby it.
@@dipndalip probably about that. Obviously i sold the silver car in January, but the current 2011 white one i have is the same. Before the tune i would get about 330 to the tank with how i drive and about 285 with both of them after the tunes. 3.27 gears on both as stated above
All custom from the manifolds back. Its full 2¼" pipe instead of the factory 2". I have the rear cats deleted, to an x pipe, two dynomax race bullets, and then to 3 inch slash cut tips.
Ive had it on my car for the past month or so and i love it. When you talk with Marty he will ask what firmness level you want for your shifts for the transmission, i went with a 7 (5 is stock) because of the mileage and upkeep of my vic. Alls my car has done is the exhaust is completely custom (ive got a few videos throughout the different renditions) and a drop in k&n air filter. Plus in the Sct tuner you get, you can change the pressure for each shift into gears. So for example, after i loaded the tune, i noticed that the 2-3 shift was ridiculous, and i dont wanna blow my trans out, so i lowered the pressure -5 and its perfect for me at that. Anymore questions and i can try to give my two cents.
@@fastfords9072 I have my crown Vic for almost 7 years and never had any transmission problems at all only one major problem intake manifold went out that's it
The X4 tuner from SCT is $520 on their website, though there are options for about $300 elsewhere. $200 for a custom tune with room for future upgrades doesn't sound unreasonable.
Noo, the abs pump was bad in the car so both the abs and parking brakes stayed on all the time of me owning the car. Never got around to fixing it before i got rid of it
Not really true. I've driven those older ones, and I've worked on a lot of them. I have a 2005, have had it since early 2014. It's been the best car I've ever had. The DBW vs cable 'performance difference' is all in the head. It's like a placebo - you think the cable is better but it isn't.
In my experience, my fuel tank feels a bit smaller after getting a marty tune ('00 Marquis). If I drive normally and try not to push it, mpg is about 10%-15% worse than stock.
I used to get 330 to the tank just by nature of how i drive, now i get about 300. But, thats just because where i live currently. All the speed limits are from 30-45 and after the tune it doesnt shift into the over drive gears regardless until your at certains speeds
@@Matt-Wynn ive been trying to find out how to remove it... well i did find a way its on a tuning software but i dont really wana pay 100 a month for something ill use a handful amount of times
Im my case, no. I could get 330 if i was really babying it before the tune, but about 290-300 afterwards with the tune on both of my cars (the silver one in the video, and my white one currently)
The reason why i made this video was to share my experience of buying the Marty tune. I wasnt really caring about the performance gains, if there was any at all cool. Alls i cared about was whether or not it affected how my car drove specifically, and it made it more of a fun experience to drive vs stock tune. However, i do wish i had a dragy to test all my different cars and compare.
My car stock was way better then yours, mine is also not a p71. I have single exhaust with a cherry bomb and it still looks better then your car stock. My ecu went bad with the pats system so I got a p71 ecu and it now shifts right at red line and bangs shifts, from every video I've seen my car is a lot more awake then most crown vics. That being said in the year or so the car is getting a turbo and if it doesn't it will be getting a marty tune.
I can assure you that stock P71 will be better, performance wise, than your stock LX. That single exhaust will not outflow the dual H-pipe exhaust the stock P71 comes with. Cherry Bomb mufflers (glasspacks) are notoriously one of the most restrictive style mufflers you can buy. Don't think for one minute it will outflow a stock muffler, given that you can see right through it. See those 'cheese grate' baffles in the pipe? Those set up eddy currents in the flow that cause back pressure. There's no way that's better than a stock P71. Don't think for one minute that you can extrapolate a performance difference in your car by the feel of your butt vs. a UA-cam video. Life doesn't work that way.
I have a 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis w/ 64,000 original miles from original owner... just bought it. He had reciepts for $2,100 within the last three months. He said give me $2,800 and its your's... it is now mine. 😊
Simply Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Sounds good. Now go get some after market neoprene sway bar bushings front and rear to tighten up the suspension . Another thing people overlook is changing your rear end lube. I live in the south where it gets hot, so get the ROYAL PURPLE 75W-140 lube.(if you live where it's hot) it has the friction modifier in it. Takes 2 1/2 qts. Drain it, clean it out real good and put a new cover gasket also. I painted my rear end cover before I reinstalled it (dark grey) and REPLACE your vent hose with 5/16 fuel line. That is very important. Do that and you'll be good to go brother....
I actually sold this car this past January. Buut i missed and regretted it so much that this last Friday i picked up another one 😄. This ones way nicer, and much quicker then the silver one in the video. White 2011 P7b, with 99k miles and a whole bunch of goodies. Will post a video of that when i get around to it.
I have been on the fence about tuning my 03 P71. Listening to the down shift, 1 - 2 shift, and how the engine sounded, I am no longer on the fence. Absolutely going to be calling marty up for this tune, I plan on doing some bolt on mods soonish for my full stage one, but I think the tune alone will be the most important step. I understand he has a package where you send the new specs and he sends a new tune when you make upgrades. assuming that is still the thing, I will be spending a little more but I haven't found anyone anywhere near his price for a proper effective tune that makes such a dramatic difference in the overall performance. I am also looking into getting my transmission modified, but once again, finding that special jmod confident individual seems to be difficult. THANKS FOR THE VID!
I'm looking for the j mood as well
👀☝️🤔
Marty is great man 👍
Had a 97 Grand Marquis with a perf tune from 5 star, stock dual exhaust (was a single exhaust car) with Borlas, 3.73’s and the J mod done to the trans. It was a true sleeper. It was also lowered on LSC 16” wheels.
hey my please hip me...what is the J mod
@@franceskamryn102transmission shift improver kit similar to a shift kit developed by Jerry who worked on the development of the 4 R 70 W transmission try Google it's your friend
I PROMISE you, your tuned 3700 LB Grand Marquis that probably barely broke 220hp with a tune IF you were lucky was far from a "sleeper" lol.
@@Mogul20478
LOL, yes it can be when done right. If you haven’t done it then you don’t know!
@@dodgeguyz I promise a tune, and exhaust isn't adding anything over 30 to 40 HP at best. Especially not to a N/A V8 from the 90's
Best bang for the buck mods are tuner and rear gears, it came with either 2.73 or 3.27 I believe put some 3.73s or 4 10s it with leave harder if your not spinning but gas mileage is gonna go done ,you may also go with aluminum drives haft and lighter wheels for less rotating mass, but you may not want all that for a daily
👍🏻😎 I have a 2006 P71. I need to get one of those for mine. Thanks for the video.
If by the run button, you mean secure idle (press a button and leave the car without the keys in but the engine on) most cop cars get that removed after service, or surprisingly a lot never have it in the first place, and just get left with the keys in the ignition. I made by own secure idle and installed it, it was quite easy.
I have a 2003 Grand Marquis. Recently had the transmission redone. Engine runs perfect.. car runs great but burns a couple of quarts a month but that's okay. Still a smooth comfortable car. I wish we had an exhaust sounding like yours.
I spent a load of money on the exhaust when i first bought the car to fix it because the previous owner cut three of the four cats off, and then it just turned into a whole rabbit hole of different mufflers. But the setup thats on it now is the perfect sound for me. Love it so much.
@@Matt-Wynn in time you have the money
Engine is not running perfect if it’s burning a couple quarts a month lol.
@@MagicSwizzle i had a 03 GM for a few years and yes it can run perfectly and burn some oil.
@@davispresbhj2418 engine is running ok but something is wrong .
I've got a 2007 crown Vic,too. Mine sounds almost exactly like your's driving in it's stock tuning. Feels like it's in overdrive for too long sometimes but not doing much besides driving in 2500 rpms. Maybe i should try out Marty tune,too
Just got a 93 tune for my 07 f150 with the 4.6 and I can say with 100% certainty that Marty is no joke.
whats different? and how does he tune it say if i have 24lb/hr injectors u just tell him and he works around it?? or u send ur ecu in? like how does he know what u need or is it just a generic 4.6 tune
@@tba6403 Call him and ask.
@@Milpower i emailed him a while back and learned more about the process. its not worth it if you have no major mods and even then you should go to a reputable local shop over pre configured tunes from cars with the same mods bc theyre not exactly the same
What type of paint is your vic? I'm trying to get something similar. Love the vic too ❤
My fuel pressure regulator was clogged with rust and had a tear Fixed the problem you are mentioning
Those are a couple upgrades that will not break the bank and make your car handle a lot better and you won't have to worry about any rear end whine or overheating.....
Diablo Tune 93 on a 2005 Crown Vic police interceptor. She definitely peeled the tires with a 1.5 turbo on it at Norwalk Raceway.
ok so im definitely doing the jmod first, then some tune, any suggestions, for tuner shops? metro Detroit and surrounding areas
Thanks for sharing! I am considering the Marty Tune for my 2011. I like the car a lot but it could use more pep. Mine is 100% stock.
Get the tune TRUST ME I got a 2010 and it woke mine up FOR SURE
@Radiant DIY F all of that my car performs better than it did before I got the tune I can feel a difference and it behaves differently I can feel the difference idgaf about all that jazz you talking about and yes the things you mentioned are very beneficial but don't hate because you stuck in your closed minded ass ways sir have a nice day and CHILL OUT 🤷🏾♂️
@Radiant DIY STFU 🤡 now your just flat out getting annoying dude I'm gonna get a Marty tune on my town car when I get it too just to piss you off sir how about you get a tune and do all that BS and get on the Dyno and answer your own damn questions instead of being a troll or HATER or whatever you think you doing my money was WELL SPENT my car runs better for sure and I recommend it to anybody that can't afford all that extra shit (those extras will make ah huge difference on top of having a tune) but a tune alone will most def make a difference. I agree that all of those mods and a tune together will give you the most uumph but everybody can't afford or even want to do all of that
I guarantee if a stock Vic lines up with you and you have a tune you'll know what's up when you pull away from them like their jogging and your sprinting 🤷🏾♂️ FAWK what Radioactive DIY dickhole head ass is talking about the mods he listed are all great but not necessary to benefit from a tune
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I got a marty tune for my 2000 Grand Marquis and I had to have him change a few things, mainly the wide open throttle shifts and shift firmness. Side note, he seemed upset that I wanted a few revisions until I got what I wanted. Don't let that dissuade you from getting the tune you want. You paid $535 for it. Anyway, it would shift out of first at like 60mph at WOT, which was ridiculous. If I hadn't had him change that, it would have eventually destroyed the torque converter. I asked him to lower the 1-2 shift to 4800rpm with transmission firmness to 6. I set the transmission firmness to +5 with the tuner and now it's perfect! Dosn't look like much on camera but it feels a lot better in person. Is it worth $500? Depends on how you feel after buying it. I had the money to spare and I enjoy driving it now more than ever so I'm satisfied.
Exactly how i feel about it. When i go back to the stock tune, i notice how much more enjoyable the custom Tune is and it makes it much more enjoyable.
@@Matt-Wynn is the trans original? Tuning the ECU helps but if you swap out the valves in the transmission it will perform great. and you got to push it harder. the electronic throttle will learn to be more aggressive.
@@aslant9246 To my knowledge yes, it is. I bought it at 123k miles from a dude that had it for two years all stock. But plan is im gonna get rid of it this coming spring to upgrade to a police charger, caprice, or a Mustang gt. Havent decided yet. Or im gonna keep it and turbo it or something lmao
Sounds like you have 2:73 gears
@@Matt-Wynn a mustang is so overrated and so small
Run premium fuel. Having the boost added, it's mandatory. Or you risk chipping pistons from donation issues. There's a big passability that your ECM is detecting KR and pulling timing. That'll rob you of a lot of power.
Not familiar with that tuning platform you're using, but with HP Tuners you can use the scanning software program to check for KR and do a lot of other custom tuning. It's what I've been using for a few years now. That thing you're using reminds me of one of those hypertech tuners that has pre programmed canned tunes.
You have no idea what you're talking about maybe you should educate yourself before you make yourself look ignorant, this is definitely nothing like the hyper Junk can Tunes it's a custom tune from Marty and Jeff At mo's Speed Shop and they've been tuning these cars since they pretty much came out
That’s exactly what it is
Sharp paint job i like it a lot
Just came across your channel and this clip, overall now with this much time has passed is it still acting well with the tune?.
I sold the car in January but still drove perfectly fine and way better than stock. The guy I sold it to is still driving it, and now i have another one that i got a few months ago that also is Marty tuned. Drives like a dream
@@Matt-Wynn thanks I have 2011 I asked because I want one but the down side is i spoke to Marty and he can’t ship it to me to California state restrictions, but I’ll get it somehow.
@@DavidHernandez-iu9lq Its worth it imo. The one ive got now is a 2011, i posted a vid on it. Way nicer than my silver one.
its like im looking at my own car
Thanks for sharing this video, what's the setup for the exhaust? Trying to match that on my 04 Marquis
Rear cat deleted, to an x pipe and two dynomax race bullets. All 2¼" pipe instead of the stock 2". And 3" slash cut exhaust tips i believe.
@@Matt-Wynn Awesome, thanks for the info man
that cornering and power cut has happend to me for 3-4 years ..then my trans went out, got a rebuild and no more taking a corner and the trans lagging..i always thought this was a safety/fuel issue but nope...trans is worn and goin out. Same symptoms with low trans fluid
When a crown Vic bucks does that mean it’s low on transmission?
@@sidneyhowell8410 I've had them buck around 40mph when the overdrive shifts..i replaced spark plugs and coils and it fixed the bucking
@@sidneyhowell8410 or WORE OUT
@JakeSnakes my overdrive engages as soon as I hit 35 if I go 34 it will stay in 3rd is that normal or no
@@Tommysmess its not good on em. I leave overdrive off until 45 mph
What kind of Exhaust u got installed?
those 4-2 shifts hurt dont do that it slipped each time dude
Love the color on this vic. Is it baby blue or light gray? Looks really unique
Silver! You dont really see that many at least around where im at. My buddys got one that was identical to this one. Sadly shes gone now, sold it to get my truck and i wish i kept it. Was a blast
@@Matt-Wynn my dad has a gunmetal gray lx sport (ex police chief car) I wrecked my truck then picked up a nearly identical one like 5 years later and we run around like a couple units side by side from time to time and it's pretty fun, no?
My 05 MGM does that hiccup. I think it’s my stall converter
I just bought a 2000 crown vic off my buddy that has the exact same tuner and every time it shifts into third on the 87 tune and shuts down every light on the dash for a few seconds
I wanna buy a crown Vic as a first car, any tips on years or models to look out for?
2003 and up are what you want. They have the PI engine (2001+, Performance Improved), and the new-for-2003 suspension and steering upgrade which changes a boat that wallows in the corners into a vehicle that can holds its own against most. Personally I'd go 2005+ due to CANbus/DBW (much simpler overall setup). 2005-2008 seem to be the sweet spot; 2005 still has the 1996-2004 style instrument cluster (but can be swapped up if you're up to that task), and some don't like the quarter panel AM/FM antenna they have (only year to have this). 2009-2011 are hit and miss; build quality didn't seem as good in those years at least with consistency. 2011 has the cartoonishly large headrests.
An illinois Vic cool..
What kind of exhaust do you have? Sounds great
Rear cat deleted to an x pipe and two dynomax race bullets. All 2¼" pipe instead of the 2 inch
Is there a website for this tune?
There is but, its constantly under maintenance. You can find his email on there Facebook page, and email Marty directly with all of your questions. He replied super fast for me. Heres the link to their Facebook page: m.facebook.com/MosSpeedShop/
I got the same radio in my Crown 😂 pioneer
you can get better shifting with a J Mod drill the 10 hole to the larger size reconned remove both lower sprigs on the 3/4 accumulator and the stiffer lower spring on the 1/2 accumulator the cost is the fluid a drill bit and your time it will shift as good or better also get the Uhaul pan with plug while you have it off for easier maintenance in the future the rest of thee "performance benefits" aren't worth the added cost IMO
super pretty area you're driving thru
Good ole middle Wisconsin for you. Im just North West of Milwaukee, so it actually has some nice roads out here.
i have the programmer like yours how do i get it to the person to load a Marty Tune please and thank you
Okay, so i believe alls you would have to do is go to the facebook page, called Mo's Speedshop. On there you should be able to find Marty's email and phone number (the tuner) and he should be able to get you all the information on what you have to do. I just bought the whole package which was the tuner and his tunes that are personal to your car. It will be way cheaper since you already have an sct, but idk if it matters or not if it was previously married to another car if you have used it before. Im sure they can reset it easily but im not sure.
Also i just looked it up, you can go to there website now mosspeedshop.com. It wasn't up whenever i got the tune for my car.
@@Matt-Wynn yup found it and sent them a dm message thank you
The main reason for the lag is you have throttle by wire where throttle by cable is 1000 times better. The throttle by wire is controlled by the computer which gives the delay
Yes that is true. I have a 03 P71 and a 08' P71 and the 08' has bad delay in the throttle response.
@@GrandPitoVic 100% correct. Throttle by cable is a must
Amen
@@fastfords9072so what do I do to get better throttle response. Do I switch out my wire for cable throttle?
@@juanray2614 you cant its computer controlled
Where did you find your center console/arm rest?
Vertically Driven Products VDP 31515 Black Locking Central Console a.co/d/8RsF0n4
This is the link for the one i got. It goes in and out of stock every now and again. Works great
@@Matt-Wynn Thanks, i had the thin plastic one from walmart but the lid caved in
@@baird5776mullet most people do lol. I refused to buy the shitty plastic ones for that exact reason lmao
Did you have lag on takeoff before the tune? Due to electronic throttle (drive by wire) I hear that’s why my 08 does it. Does getting the tune help with throttle response on takeoff? That is my least favorite part about my car
Absolutely, it seemed like the tune helped out a boat load. Id recommend it to anyone looking about doing it. Its only 500 bucks so why not try it
@@Matt-Wynn I’m definitely going to, just waiting for the money to be right. Can’t wait tho
@@jarrodrobeck4527 awesome dude, i sold this car about 5 months ago, buut just today, i picked up a 2011 with 99k miles. This one is also marty tuned and it feels way better then the silver vic
@@Matt-Wynnso bro did you go to a local shop & get that Marty tune or you ordered one online?
@@juanray2614 i ordered it online through emailing him. Look up Mo's Speedshop on Facebook and hes got all the information on there. Im up here in Wisconsin
ah i see your crown vic also abs issue too.
Turn it off when starting up
Add turbo 108 from oreillys then retune it to 93 youll notice so much more
What center console you use
Vertically Driven Products VDP 31515 Black Locking Central Console a.co/d/fMmQiCw
This is the one but its seems to be unavailable currently
You might still have taller gears. Some P71s had 3.55 gear set. Yours may have the 3.27 or even the 2.73 highway gears.
I put a 3.73 set in my LX Sport and the car responds much better but still only 2300 RPM at 70 and 23 MPG or better if I baby it.
This one had 3.27's. I wish it had the 3.55's
23mpg...... I really want to say bullshii.... How???
@@dipndalip i get nowhere near that 😂
@@Matt-Wynn Yeah I only believe people who say what you said. with a marty tune it went even lower. from 17mpg on stock 87 to 12.5mgp on 93. You?
@@dipndalip probably about that. Obviously i sold the silver car in January, but the current 2011 white one i have is the same. Before the tune i would get about 330 to the tank with how i drive and about 285 with both of them after the tunes. 3.27 gears on both as stated above
do you have to keep it plugged in ?
Nope! But you can have it plugged in to data log and use as a gauge for different parameters
Dude what is that exhaust system?
All custom from the manifolds back. Its full 2¼" pipe instead of the factory 2". I have the rear cats deleted, to an x pipe, two dynomax race bullets, and then to 3 inch slash cut tips.
I have a 06 can I get this with a completely stock interceptor and it won't mess up anything like transmission or blow my engine
Ive had it on my car for the past month or so and i love it. When you talk with Marty he will ask what firmness level you want for your shifts for the transmission, i went with a 7 (5 is stock) because of the mileage and upkeep of my vic. Alls my car has done is the exhaust is completely custom (ive got a few videos throughout the different renditions) and a drop in k&n air filter. Plus in the Sct tuner you get, you can change the pressure for each shift into gears. So for example, after i loaded the tune, i noticed that the 2-3 shift was ridiculous, and i dont wanna blow my trans out, so i lowered the pressure -5 and its perfect for me at that. Anymore questions and i can try to give my two cents.
@@Matt-Wynn ok cool thanks so much
No. But 05-06 had alot of transmission problems and others to list. 07-11 better
@@fastfords9072 I have my crown Vic for almost 7 years and never had any transmission problems at all only one major problem intake manifold went out that's it
@@anthonyscvpi5154 if its got the early plastic intake then ya its great you replaced it
I can't see $500. I just don't get it. I can see $100. It is just computer programming. I wonder if you can do 2 cars with that box?
The X4 tuner from SCT is $520 on their website, though there are options for about $300 elsewhere. $200 for a custom tune with room for future upgrades doesn't sound unreasonable.
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No there married tune one per car
@s.p.5043 that comment makes you sound like a cheap-ass it's okay
Also if it's just computer programming how come you don't do it?
Is the parking brake on?
Noo, the abs pump was bad in the car so both the abs and parking brakes stayed on all the time of me owning the car. Never got around to fixing it before i got rid of it
Ive owned a 2007 P71 and its a good car. But honestly a 03-04 way better
What makes the older cars better?
Not really true. I've driven those older ones, and I've worked on a lot of them. I have a 2005, have had it since early 2014. It's been the best car I've ever had. The DBW vs cable 'performance difference' is all in the head. It's like a placebo - you think the cable is better but it isn't.
Does it get better or worse gas mileage MPG
It should get 2-3 mpg better with tune
In my experience, my fuel tank feels a bit smaller after getting a marty tune ('00 Marquis). If I drive normally and try not to push it, mpg is about 10%-15% worse than stock.
I used to get 330 to the tank just by nature of how i drive, now i get about 300. But, thats just because where i live currently. All the speed limits are from 30-45 and after the tune it doesnt shift into the over drive gears regardless until your at certains speeds
@@BunnyAssassin i got a X4 AND A MARTY TUNE LOVE IT
Does this move the 4k rpm limiter up? Or no
Unfortunately no. Thats the only thing i wish it would change lol
@@Matt-Wynn ive been trying to find out how to remove it... well i did find a way its on a tuning software but i dont really wana pay 100 a month for something ill use a handful amount of times
Southern illinois by stl area. Wya
Love to see your setup for exhaust.
Does it give you better gas mileage
Im my case, no. I could get 330 if i was really babying it before the tune, but about 290-300 afterwards with the tune on both of my cars (the silver one in the video, and my white one currently)
How it was stock lol bro it’s stock come on now
All of this video is subjective, would of been nice to see 0-60 stock and with tune.
The reason why i made this video was to share my experience of buying the Marty tune. I wasnt really caring about the performance gains, if there was any at all cool. Alls i cared about was whether or not it affected how my car drove specifically, and it made it more of a fun experience to drive vs stock tune. However, i do wish i had a dragy to test all my different cars and compare.
My car stock was way better then yours, mine is also not a p71. I have single exhaust with a cherry bomb and it still looks better then your car stock. My ecu went bad with the pats system so I got a p71 ecu and it now shifts right at red line and bangs shifts, from every video I've seen my car is a lot more awake then most crown vics. That being said in the year or so the car is getting a turbo and if it doesn't it will be getting a marty tune.
My car looks better then yours and it's faster with my Marty tune 😂🤷🏾♂️
I can assure you that stock P71 will be better, performance wise, than your stock LX. That single exhaust will not outflow the dual H-pipe exhaust the stock P71 comes with. Cherry Bomb mufflers (glasspacks) are notoriously one of the most restrictive style mufflers you can buy. Don't think for one minute it will outflow a stock muffler, given that you can see right through it. See those 'cheese grate' baffles in the pipe? Those set up eddy currents in the flow that cause back pressure. There's no way that's better than a stock P71. Don't think for one minute that you can extrapolate a performance difference in your car by the feel of your butt vs. a UA-cam video. Life doesn't work that way.
Just buy a faster car. Daily drive these, own two cars.
Jaguar XJ8.
Oh i am, im gonna be getting a mustang in spring. Currently living in a apartment that doesn't have a garage so i cant have two cars.
Jaguars are shit
@@fastfords9072 I concur. Besides, my Vic would eat a Jag of the same year...
@@CrazyHorse420 exactly
Do you have to leave it plugged in after the tune is done?
Nope! Not at all. However you can use it to datalog different parameters.
what kind of exhaust do you have on there? sounds awsome.
Rear cat deleted, x pipe, and dynomax race bullets. All 2¼" pipe from the stock headers back to 3½" slash cut tips