CROWN VIC GETS A MARTY TUNE! Review (Is it worth it?)
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2021
- Very happy with this upgrade! The crown vic daily is coming along. Hit up Marty from Mo's speed shop in Georgia. Like comment and sub. Thanks for watching!
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The main things for these cars are the
Marty Tune, Cams, High Stall, And Gears
(Also getting Trac Lok)
Wow that tune saved that worn out cop car. Back tip top nice! My 06 merc has been babied so its still all quick like new still and can't wait to see what it does
I’ve got an 08 GM with the Marty tune 93, magnaflow catback, and AFE intake wet filter. It’s woken up big time I’m very happy with it. Marty and his team are great.
I agree too way better than factory 😂
Ima try that I just got a gm
I just added 4.10’s and a posi it’s the best mod yet. I also have a set of Stainless Works long tube headers with high flow cats on order 😁
Got 2 vics. An 06 and an 09. Just put a built trans in my 06 along with other goodies. The 09 has everything short of induced air. The tune and Jmod are a couple of the easiest most noticeable power improvements. Marty is the man. He does like to kick the trans shift pressures up a bit. I would only Jmod and tune newer transmissions. My 06 is a full blown K9 car with lights siren cage ect. I just got the new upgraded trans 2 days ago.
That’s awesome and yea marty is the man for sure. I notice a difference after the tune as well. Thats cool though with the built trans ive been wanting to manual swap mine really bad lol
Where did you buy the built trans?
@@chrislowe486 Stienmetz in Jefferson City MO. My trans went out 1 year after owning the car. Stienmetz is a transmission specialist and fairly priced. They pulled my old one and completely reworked it with upgraded clutch packs, valve body, servos OD band, OD pin, and TC. The valve body was reworked as well. In all it was $2377. I can definitely tell the difference in the shifts.
I feel like my 06 and 07 performed better than this guys in stock trim. Both cars are 3.55 geared though
So what year do you not recommend J-modding? 05 is what I have
I’ve had 4 crown Vics p71 in my life (2003,2006,2008,2010) (currently have a 2010) and the 03 was by far the fastest. Your 2004 seems very restricted somehow. I had my 03 at 130 mph fairly quick and it was still pulling .
Also the 03 had the best throttle response because it didn’t have that drive by wire BS.
I’ll be making videos soon of my 2010.
Thanks for the info btw about the tuner , good video.
Sweet man thanks for watching! I appreciate it
Funny how a simple cable is superior to a more expensive computer
The drive by wire is the main reason I won't own a later model panther! I have a low milage 02 HPP for the old school ride Sunday cruiser & an 03 daily!
@Mike Mike Johnson hi there. Honestly not much as I’m not trying to build a race car. I’ve added the k&n drop in air filter and in the works of doing a secondary cat delete and swapping to Flowmaster super 44 mufflers. I also run e85 as much as possible. Not looking for huge power gains just customizing to my liking. To me the car is plenty fast and comfortable to drive. Was just curious if a simple tune would add a little bit of hp to the mods I’ve listed above. Thanks for any input.
2010 isn't a p71 buddy it's a p7B. And it's different. I have the same far and yes it's much faster. But your car won't do more than 130 because it's electronically limited to prevent damage to the aluminum drive shaft.
Thanks for this video bro. I have an 09 LTC and it's getting a marty now, I'm convinced, been on the fence for about 6 months, but now I'm sold. I gotta email Marty back😂
Did you end up getting it? Been wanting one for my 10 LTC.
@momah0702 , I definitely will but 2 weeks ago a guy in a Tacoma took off my front end, so I gotta wait about a month or more till I get it back.
Did you put in the octane booster/ fuel system cleaner in after you pumped the gas? If so why?
I always pour any additives in first, then pump the gas so its mixed in better.
I hit 100+the other day in my totally stock Grand marquis w 4 12's weighing my rear end down. I'm about to do some major upgrades soon.
Speakers?
@@thomasgellos1732 yeah. My Mom's wrecked my sht twice since then😫 minor but still😡 I got 2 more 12s to go in her tho. Ima do paint, body and electrical (remote start/new sounds in a few months)
@@mrhombregordo9556hows it goin?
Might want to get an exhaust shop to do a backpressure test and see if your cats are clogged up. Something doesn't seem right. That 4.6 ain't singing up top like they normally do.
I have suspicion they are cel is on for them as well
Nice video!
I just bought a p71 with 15k miles from a govt surplus and paid a whole 11k for it. I went nuts on it: KN intake, 75mm throttle body, Kooks Longtubes, full Borla exhaust including H pipe, 373 gears, Iridium spark plugs, MSG ignition coils, Marty tune, and Cams. What else mod wise could I get besides high stall or changing blocks or something drastic? Lol
Jmod, K&N drop in performance air filter ,rear muffler delete or electric cutout exhuast for silent to deadly with a touch of a button, 93 octane or 87 octane marty tune heavy duty taxi crown vic rear springs adds a slight lift lining up the drive drain . you do all that guaranteed added HP and acceleration
I got everything listed except j mod. I hear its highly recommend
@@kollinlehr yup it makes a difference . stay away from coldair intake only certain years can getaway with that it ends up putting car in limp mode drives the mass air sensor crazy for newer vics mines a 2011 p7b i cant do cold air
@@D.D.REAPER makes sense to me. I steered away from aftermarket intakes. A true cold air has a possibility of getting water in depending where its placed and the others are basically hot air intakes lol. K&n drop in filter seems to work fine for me
@@kollinlehr exactly
So I picked up a 2004 cvpi last year and it’s actually rather quick and it’s a little weird. It has never been tuned but fastest 0-60 I’ve timed was 7.75 with me and two other people in the car. I’m debating a tune but idk if it’s worth it! Tops out at 120 with 3.55 gears stock!
I would say yes! Maybe a previous owner installed something? Lol but i think it will still help. Not sure tho
I would be shocked if it was tuned I bought it as the first personal use owner of the car. It was a Virginia sheriffs car before being bought by the school in the area for municipal use. I got it from a small dealer near me in Michigan 🤷♂️
Seriously recommend the Jmod. Did it to my 07’ and it really woke up the car. Shifts very fast and hard at WOT, and around town at low throttle you can’t even feel it shift as it shifts so fast. I’d bet with the Marty tune it’ll chirp tires changing gears. Really wanna get one.
Id love to do the j mod how big did you drill? Doesnt the size relate to how hard/fast it shifts?
@@kollinlehr I quite literally followed the Jmod guide here on UA-cam by Rizzo to the letter. I used a 7/16 drill bit for all the holes. On the later 4R75 transmissions from 2005+ several of the holes have already been enlarged so there’s not a ton of drilling on the newer transmissions so I don’t know if the “drilling to size” still applies. I also bought a heavy duty separator plate and drilled that out. The stock separator plate can crack, definitely a good upgrade.
I replaced my separator plate with the Superior Products Tuff Plate
@@wjye thanks for the info! I might end up checking into it after all.
@FunWithCars basically you drill bigger holes into your trans for more fluid flow and it shifts better lol. Thats the most basic explanation but if you look it up there will be info on it everywhere. Theres a whole diy forum/vid
Fix the exhaust leak first. It's probably the manifold bolts are broken or it is cracked. That is robbing you of alot of power. After that check the cats. They could be clogged. That thing should be roasting tires for days. I have a 2000 P71 and a 2011 P7B that has absolutely no problem spinning tires. Both are 3.27 gears.
Any issues doing the tunes back & forth (87 to 93)? i live in CA and i would have to switch back to default to get smogged out here then back to an 87 tune. Thanks
Yes for sure you can easily switch back and fourth just make sure fuel tank is empty
Fuel weighs a lot and you have 3/4 of a tank more than the original test so although this is impressive the results would be far more impressive with all things being equal
I got a bunch of lil videos of my merc mixed in my bs if anyone wants to see n hear a nice one with beautiful full new dual exhaust. Put steel packs on so im warning its hypnotizing
all who live in CA we can only watch the improvements! :(
Rip to the cali guys lol
My 06 sounds and drives like that with buffed coils and 40 Flowmasters lol
Will Marty’s tune a 94 obd1 mgm?
6r80 with factory stall and stage 2 cams or 4r75w, 3500 stall, jmod, and trans rebuild
Will be getting 4.56s along with it and can’t decide someone help🙃
So i have a completely stock 98 Grand Marquis, so your telling me if i use this Marty tune thing itll make it drive and shuft better? It won't mess it up?
Correct don’t expect huge changes but yes
@@kollinlehrwell in your video when first did the 87 octane tune you said you notice the substantial difference and how you're saying to not expect much of a difference? Lol which one is it? I just emailed him and he's going to shit me one out Tuesday
My 2004 p71 is ridiculous… highway king
My 2010 is the same way. Around town it's grumpy but man once I get on the highway 80 mph feels like I'm riding in a damn cloud. Smooth, comfortable, no effort at all getting to 80 either
Were you doing a burn out with the Traction Control on?
Traction control is a rare option on a p71.
What was the before and after top end on your car????
Decent improvements top end nothin crazy low end torque tho and shifting were bigger improvements i think
Big car small Displacement. Just enjoy the beautiful ride and take care of it. All this other bullshit does nothing but fuck them up.
My gut is telling me is this the truth.
Turn off your traction control and you should be able to do a burnout. When I turned mine off I was able to do it but with it on my wheels didn't allow it to spin.
how do u forget to do a burn out test dude?!!!? hahahaha ! really enjoyable video tho! Props to you!
Thanks man and haha check out my other vid on my channel i ripped a good one
@@kollinlehr so im thinking about doing an 87 Octane Tune. Also, do you recommend a cold air intake or a drop in K&N ?
@@benjiboy9116 honestly a drop in k&n is what i would do a cold air never really is a true cold air and depending on where it is can get water in it etc. ive heard guys and i stand by a k&n drop in filter being just fine!
Is the Speed Shop still a thing? I looked at the address and the google street view indicates it ain't there no Mo.
Marty! Where are you?
Im not 100% sure but i think its still there could have moved shops or something but i know hes still around lol
wait a minute...so you did 2 tunes? the 87 first and then the 93? Is that correct>?
Yes apparently but i was wrong in my thinking. Its basically the factory tune or the custom tune. Custom tune you can run 87 OR 93 factory tune ONLY 87. I hope that cleared it up lol
add some grease to the hood hinge for squicking..
I have a K&N filter. Wondering how much hp the tune would add with the K&N. maybe a 07 p71 airbox would be a good mod with the K&N since the inlet is bigger?
I would assume maybe 15-30hp/trq gains so nothing crazy, but the tune helps so much with drivability. It definitely picked up a bit
This Vic sound almost like jeeper creeper van
How much was it?
So I got a 2000 mgm and I want a Marty tune but idk if it'll blow my engine would u suggest it for a 120670mile car?
Havnt had any issues myself nor have i heard any. You should be fine. Just maintain the car per usual
@@kollinlehr ok
My stock 09 p71 runs good stock it burns the tires and I’ve done about 118 on the highway not trying
I definitely feel like the newer vics are faster lol unless mine needs spark plugs or maintenance items like that which i just got shipped to me so we will find out lol. But I figured the burnout part out 😂
Get that unit tuned
If you run an 87 tune do you have to run 87 octane & what if your state doesn't offer 87 octane does it matter?? Plus I always see some comments saying not to do a Marty tune because it can wear the transmission out quicker especially if that tune has it set where its just banging into the gears to hard.
To be honest Idk if I should do it or not due to the fact that I've watched a few videos on how the transmissions in these cars are known for crapping out, Idk how true that holds though. Mine is an 05' CVPI, So its drive by wire which I know some people say not to do any tuning or modifications if its an 05' and up. What do you think??
I noticed you have the same annoying speedometer setup as me where there is no RPM odometer which I find so annoying, would you know buy chance how much it would cost to get the original normal looking dashboard setup where it actually has a RPM odometer like other Crown Vics Idk if its just cause its a CVPI thing or its for P71's also
When running the 87 I believe you can run 93 as well. When on the 93 tune it is strictly 93. I think but better to be safe and run what the tune calls for. The tune doesn’t bang gears and i dont think it will lead to trans failure. I did hear about reliability issues with the trans but a lot of people have run the marty tune for awhile. Sure beats the way it shifts stock. I would recommend the tune as i have an 04. As for tacometer if you got a tune the tuner would display that. If u Didnt id recommend finding a civilian part out and seeing if that gauge cluster would work. IM NOT sure if it will. Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@kollinlehr Thanks man 😊
The Tachometer was added in 2006, it maybe possible to add it to an 2005 car but I’m not sure how it’s done. It is not possible to add that newer tachometer dash to the older cars as the computer/electronic system is very different. And I could be wrong but I think 87 octane is the standard grade gas anywhere so you shouldn’t have an issue finding it. And if the station was out, you could always run higher octane. Just can’t run lower.
@@wjye 2004 cars can't run a plug and play swap, not even the Marauder cluster. It's aftermarket for us or the anguish of the Marauder swap, I think.
@@jimr5703 Correct, the 2004 and older cars run the older analog computer system. 2005 and newer cars got the CanBus system and driveby wire. It is not possible to mount a 2006+ guage cluster in an older car. I HAVE seen it done on an 2005, as that year is also the CanBus style but I'm not sure what it would take to do it. 2004 and older cars your only option was a Marauder cluster or an Auxiliary tach. I think there was a mounting kit available for a column mounted tach from ADTR but I dunno if they still sell it.
how much did your gas mileage change after? Worse, better or the same?
Well although I cannot fully tell cause i have no mpg gauge it seemed to stay the same if not got a little better
@@kollinlehr Sounds like I might pick one of these tuners up after I file my taxes. Im assuming the tune works for any year 2nd gen vic right? Mine is a 1999 P71.
@@Kuson2 yes I believe it will work with a 99
Is your Overdrive on or off when trying to burn Out? My 2002 will throw up a green dash light when I am out of OD and don't notice yours.
My overdrive was on. And yes it will show a green light on the dash.
@@kollinlehr have you tried to burn out with it off?
@@ME-qr2kq not yet lol. Didnt think it would make a huge difference. Might have to test it out
@@kollinlehr there is a huge difference in mine. Od off, drop down to 1st and mine launches nice, yours probably better with the tune. drive around with Od off and you should notice the difference when you go to accelerate.
@@ME-qr2kq ill definitely try it out! Thanks for watching too!
Sounds sluggish something is holding it back
Probably cats
Your mom was sitting in the back seat
I have a 2011 PI P7B with a K&N drop in and Turbo mufflers and it quicker than your with no tune.
@@glenryan6569 here's a cookie 🍪 lol
@@glenryan6569with all that it still ain't faster than my marauder 😮
great video but put your seatbelt on bruh lol
Burnouts are hard on the trans
But good for the soul
Does the sct tuner or Marty tune actually increase horsepower? ( if so, how?) Or is it just the improved shifting that makes the car quicker. And is there a tune for flex fuel/E85?
I have a 2010 CVPI - thanks
So to my understanding it will add hp but nothing crazy. The factory tune on the engine is reprogrammed timing is changed etc etc but one of the great perks is the trans shifting. Lots of improvements there which improves the cars drive ability so much. The tune i have is 87 and 93 oct. I believe marty makes flex fuel tunes for vics capable of running them. So yes it will add hp! Maybe 15-20 if you have intake and exhaust as well. It basically changes how the whole car drives in a good way!
@@kollinlehr cool man thanks for the reply! I will be doing some minor exhaust work nothing crazy. Planning a rear cat delete with a pair of super 44 mufflers. Hopefully in the near future, and I will make some videos. Thanks again!
@@mettetal for sure also that setup will sound nice i secondary cat delete with a x or h pipe in its place is perfect. Also if you are interested in the marty tune I highly recommend it. It will make a difference
Not sure if it adds horsepower but drivability with E85 is much better with my BS tune.
I bought a SCT and made my own adjustments. Didn't know about the Marty tune when I bought the tuner.
I would buy the Marty tune but im happy with my car.
Stock 11 P71 with a rebuilt trans. 37k miles since the tune and still going
@@stuwest5862 $535 as of today. Would be much better off just putting in a 5 speed.
Seems odd that it struggles to hit 100. I have a 03 that's stock besides cold air intake and exhaust and it'll hit it pretty easily for a boat
It doesnt struggle lol. Driver error. Should i post a 0-100? Im curious now tho too. Maybe we have different gearing.
@@kollinlehr do it safely, don't want anyone getting hurt. I have 3.27 gears. Very much a highway gear
Put it in first and turn overdrive off 😂 it’ll burn em completely off
I dont drive a crown vic for fule milage. I am happy with 13.8 even paying $5.5 per gallon. I dont have a car payment.
This. This is why I bought my 2010 crown Vic and sold my 2019 Challenger. Fuck that car payment
I have trouble getting past 3000 rpms when i do brakestands in my 09. I think I might be on the brakes a bit too much.
You just need a bigger torque converter. 3500 torque steak would be ideal for better off the line
My Grand Marquis gets better acceleration with just a drop in K&N and cat back with Flowmasters. Mine will spin the tires easy. If they make that much of a difference mine will really be quick. Or I hope it doesn't have the opposite effect
How much he charge for the tune?
$505 shipped. That included the sct tuner as well if you have an sct tuner its cheaper. You just have to send it to him
A built trans would definitely wake her up
Trans work definitely coming or manual swap but yea for sure needs one of the two lol
How long did it take for it to ship
Not long
@@kollinlehr like 5 days? Less?
@@skrip2143 yea around 5 days
hell yeah it will just put sum water down
put your seatbelt on and get a phone holder
Have you done any specific spark plugs or coils possibly??
Not yet I believe the previous owner had new injectors and plugs put in but i will be getting around to them soon
@@kollinlehr oh ok I just wondered I really like the setup I went with on mine
@@user-vk3db1in9s what setup did you go with? Im curious
@@kollinlehr NGK iridium IX and Edelbrock Max Fire coils
@@kollinlehr The throttle response and idle is awesome
Got my Marty tune 2 years ago, MSG coil packs, K&N air filter and total cat delete, runs like a scalded dog.
Similar setup to mine besides full cat delete. How loud is it after that? And any gains after primary cat delete? I also have to do coils and plugs.
@@kollinlehr Substantial gain in power and noise but you will smell the exhaust fumes outside the car just like the 60's.
@@baird5776mullet i dont mind the smell and potential cancer that comes with it. I know not all people will but lol. Also really that big of a difference? Did you get headers or just gut the cats?
@@kollinlehr Just the cats, and there is a difference, be sure you live in a state that doesn't require emission testing.
@@baird5776mullet i have my inspection/emissions license. No worries there ;)
Is this CARB legal? I live in commiefornia
Looks like the panther got a hurt paw.
Try a tune up before a you give her Marty tune up.
..Stroke
Fresh oil change new trans fluid new air filter wheels rotated and balanced etc. Im an auto tech man cmon. Also has newer spark plugs and injectors 76k miles rn. Probably just because it sounded like crap with exhaust the way it was.
@@kollinlehr Nice to hear she's getting regular maintenance. Glad to hear you're an Auto tech also, as vague as it is. My opinion and observations was she wasn't pulling hard for having a marty tune. Im comparing a stock 09 p71 with 180k and a 09 MGM with 160k as my point of reference.
@@jodobaggens2723 gotcha yea. Check out my latest video i did another 0-60 test and got it to finally do a burnout. The tune helped it a lot. Its still weird tho i just think some panther cars are faster depending on certain things and gear ratios.
8:20 lol no bc its pre 05
I got 8.3
This is dead my 273 stock mercury works better then this
that’s not how to do a burnout. do it in 1 not D. turn off traction control, lightly break and floor it. try it that way works every time in my 99 marquis
I’ve looked everywhere and I cannot find the traction control switch in my 99 marquis
@@rngandrews126 it’s in the glove box on the left (white button)
@@312ezii I took that thing apart and didn’t see any switch unless I’m just blind
@@rngandrews126 in mines it was actually next to the glove box to the left but u have to open the glovebox door
P71 should hit 100 easily. Wtf? 70? Not right. This a 1930 pickup?
I feel like my 2011 p7B is a lot faster for some reason
How in the fuck did you find a Vic with only 75k miles on it? I’m confused
I have a Vic with only 12,xxx Miles on my channel
It shouldn’t struggle to hit 100 that’s a little odd
Its a boat lol
@@kollinlehr not to be that guy. know the vic is slow but at wot my stock 2011 can hit 120 pretty easy. not fast or anything but definitely looks like it struggled on your end
@@corruptingvirus3371 thats odd lol maybe the newer years are faster? What mods are done on your vic? Even tho it is slow though its a great daily no need to go too fast. My 0 to 60 is around mid 7s which is way better than the stock 9 secs
@@kollinlehr only real mod to the engine so far is a catch can since I noticed a bunch of carbon in the cylinder heads. Main mods are interior and exterior related. Havent done a full 0-60 but id guess around 7-8 seconds
@@kollinlehr done almost an entire lincoln town car interior swap and removed a bunch of old police stuff so maybe a bit of weight reduction? Know the lincoln seats are a good chunk lighter especially the manual passenger seat
There's something wrong with your car!
For it not to do more than 80 miles an hour down the road it's got issues ( That's probably the reason you're able to get it with less than a 100000 miles on it.🤷♂️) because every Crown Vic police interceptor(20+) I've ever had will do well over a 120 no matter what the situation and your car wouldn't even do a burnout after the tuner when you wet down the street?
That doesn't prove to be a good example for the tuner or your car.
I don't get how you don't realize there's something wrong with that car!!! Have you ever driven another Crown Victoria police interceptor or police interceptor or not even a non police Crown Victoria could beat your car with or without the tuner!🤭
( Considering the fact that you have a wheel and tire sitting in the back seat behind you and I can hear random noises every time you hit a bump maybe your trunk being completely full of garbage might hamper the performance of a 4000 pound car with a 281cu.in V8?
Nawww, that's probably completely fine.)🤤
P.S.
While I was watching your video I was seriously seriously contemplating with myself that if this tuner was less than 250 bucks I'm gonna buy it until I saw you water down the street to do a burnout aftpronounce after the tuner now now you couldn't give me one of those to waste my time with!!! PFFFT!!!🤬
Ok karen I understand your complaint haha you know my car better than i do after all!
Rips a burnout just fine car is running fine and tune proves to be a lot better than factory. A lot . stay tuned for the vids if not idc. And nah tunes $500 and marty knows his stuff so if you can’t afford than obviously dont get it. Love this tune 10x better. Nothing is wrong with car dude these arnt super light sports cars lmao.
@@kollinlehr You called him a Karen 😂😂
Crown Victorias have a police personality. They don't do burnouts lol.
Meh i beg to differ haha. But yea I usually just cruise around nice and slow and the car is in its element
My 09 P71 lights the tires up when I stomp on it from a standstill
wear your seatbelt man.