"The guy that got himself kicked out of heaven because he thought he was better than God and didn't need Him, who then decided to condem all of humanity, have zero hobbies and continues to drag as many people down with him as he can because he is petty as heck was actually the good guy." Lord have mercy on this humanity.
@@Narko_Marko Satan was created as a high ranking Angel who decided to reject God and empty himself of all the good God had given him. Satan was not made evil by God, it was totally Satan's own decision to rebel. Evil isn't a created thing, nor is it something you give, it is the absence of something, an emptiness, like darkness is the absence of light or cold is the absence of heat. Certainly Satan is much more powerful than you or I, but he isn't a God, he is comparatively weak and under the authority of God. We humans are also evil, independent of both Satan and God we do wrong because our human nature is to rebel, just like Satan. Don't get it twisted. Satan condemns no one to hell, he doesn't rule hell or have any authority there. it is his prison and it will be yours if you do not put your faith in Christ and repent. Clearly, humans condemn themselves to hell because we reject God and his mercy through Christ.
This is just wrong. Lucifer is the reason why sin is on earth. Even if this were true ( it isnt the true story) Luficer would still be the bad guy for literally being the reason for ALL sin.
The snake (undefined as whether or not, this is Lucifer, or not) tempted us (Adam and Eve) to follow our natural nature of sin, and break from God's Word. Lucifer can Only tempt a human, but cannot cause us to sin we have a natural proclivity to sin
This was taken from the book of Moses, i.e. it was made up by Joseph Smith, so yeah, not Biblical at all. Though honestly, it seems like something Lucifer might say. Notice how in his own words he seeks to glorify himself and replace God as the redeemer of humanity. So, in essence, he commits the greatest sin of all. The video just reinforces why God would be justified in expelling Lucifer. 😄
@@eatfrenchtoast wtf does that even mean?? After reading several of your ridiculously simple minded comments it is clear that you are just another A.I. bot like we see running rampant all over Pooptube today. 🤖 🐒💩🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Adam and Eve were immortal beings until the devil deceived them into eating the forbidden fruit so the devil is the reason men became mortal read the bible please
I'm not a mormon and I don't follow the book of mormon. But I follow what is written in the bible, In Genesis 3:22-23, Adam and Eve are not immortal beings, as the book claimed. But If they ate the fruit of tree of life they will. In conclusion Adam and Eve were mortal to begin with.
he just tempted, two human dummies fell for it, so god created or let evil evolve instead of doing something about it, then throws a baby fit about it, he is evil ! he is the creator of sin! and they were not immortal they just had long lives!
"this person that does everything in his power to make all of humanity suffer for all our lives and for all eternity in hell was actually good guy" really interesting opinion
This is all made up make believe Mormon gibberish which looks to have been created by some ridiculously simple A.I. tech, it's not even worth trying to understand it because only the simple minded brainwashed buffoons of the world fall for crap like this
Plot twist: Satan really was the good guy trying to overthrow Elohim’s tyrannical regime, but he lost the war and as punishment was exiled and made the scapegoat for all of Elohim’s evils.
Lucifer looked upon himself but kept his rebellious thoughts secret for a long time. Jesus was not 'one of God's sons', but the son. I understand why people worship Lucifer, because he is the author of doing what you think is best. But that concept is being played out, and it is not going well. God will be vindicated, and his righteous principles will be proven just. As is shown by every example of his leadership, Lucifer will agree that he is not a good guy.
When satan sinned, it was in eternity. It was a place where there in no past, no present, no future. That means his sin is on-going and unrepentant. That is why God cannot forgive satan.
Bruh who is making this shit up? It’s basic knowledge that Lucifer was an angel not the son of god. Lucifer and Jesus are not conceptually related in that way. I’m not even a devout Christian and I know this
I'm glad I'm not the only person who knows that Lucifer wasn't the bad guy, but there's a lot more to the story than what's said in this video. First, "Lucifer" isn't the name of the devil - that comes only from one, single translation called the Vulgate, penned in around 380AD by (later St.) Jerome. "Lucifer" is Latin - luci- from lux (light), and -fer as in transfer and confer - i.e. to transfer to bring. So, Lucifer is the "Bringer of Light". The "bringer of light" is the "morning star", known to us as the planet Venus. If you live in the iron age world of the advent of Christianity, then you frequently see Venus follow the sun down in the evening, or heralding the coming of the sun just before sunrise (the bringer of light). This happens because Venus's orbit is inside the Earth's orbit, so it will always appear somewhat in the direction of the sun (never in the middle of the night). Jupiter, for example, is up in the middle of the night frequently, and you don't typically see it transiting the horizon just before or after your nighttime sleep - on the other hand, Venus would seem like a "falling star" or "light bringer", and was known for that in many astrological traditions, not just the Judeo-Christian mythology. So, Jerome was translating a metaphor at Isiah 12:14 wherein a king of Babylon "fell" or was "laid low" to become a common person. The word Jerome chose from Latin was the name Lucifer in the metaphor, and that Vulgate translation was subsequently used for other translations, including notably the King James Bible, and these subsequent translations took it as a literal name rather than a double entendre inferring a relationship to the planet Venus in the story of the "fallen" king. Aside from that, Lucifer doesn't occur in the Vulgate Bible and many subsequent translations of it - that's the only specific reference to "Lucifer". However, if we reach a bit outside canonical texts to e.g. Milton in Paradise Lost, we can read it in the way the medieval author intended, in a world where loyalty to monarchy was seen as a virtue; or we can read it from our own post-Enlightenment perspective. If you read it from the original perspective, God put down a rebellion of angles led by Lucifer, as should any monarch. From our perspective, however, Lucifer was leading a democratic revolution against the autocratic, authoritarian regime of God, and the democratic revolution failed. As they say, the winner writes the history, so it's no surprise that Lucifer might be portrayed in God's war propaganda as a "devil", though he was a leading angel and very close to God before the democratic revolution.
This is a sick twisted story. Lucifer wants to save mankind? There was no mankind yet, it was 1 man and 1 woman and that he tempted them to sin before the rest of mankind comes. And that causes the whole mankind to sin because they were the offspring of that 1man and 1woman. Jesus came to save mankind.
When reading the KJV I agree with the conclusion, but not in the same way this video explains it. Jesus says "no one has seen the father except by me" but how can all these Israelites" see the LORD and fall on their faces"? Why does Jesus call the father of the Pharisees (who were devout Jews who worshipped the god of Moses) Satan and the father of lies and a murderer from the beginning (Genesis)? How do you reconcile Deuteronomy 34 with Jude 1:9?
Satan is the father of lies. Jesus is Lord of all, Colossians 1:15-18 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
Hell was created for the devil because he wanted a place where God wasn't, and wanted to be God, the lake of fire was created by God as the devils eternal punishment for all the evil he is doing. The devil is petty so he is throwing God's children into the lake of fire because the only way he can attack God is by breaking his heart. You are the devils revenge by dragging you away from Jesus, ensures that you in up in hell along with the devil for all of eternity. The perfect revenge against God. And we fall for the same lie eve did in the garden of Eden everyday and give our authority to rule earth over to the devil by being obedient to the devil over YHWH
Read carefully what Lucifer says, emphasis added: "Behold, here am I. Send *_ME. I_* will be thy Son and *_I_* will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely *_I_* will do it. Wherefore, give *_ME_* thine honor." 😈 By contrast, Jesus seeks to do the will of God alone and give all glory to him: "Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever." 😇 There was no "good intention" here. Satan committed the greatest of any sin. Expulsion justified. Good job, God. ✅
Ezekiel 28: 12-19: Satan was once the signet of perfection and beauty but turned due to his lust for violence, death and destruction, He was cast off the mountain of God and began his conquest of earth. Satan is a liar. We are the ones who will Judge the devil with our testimony in Heaven. Those who overcome the fleshly nature of violence and rebellion; which received salvation through the blood of the Lamb. In the end, the devil and his children will be burned over. Repent, turn to Christ for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
Interesting how he tries to make his demonic 'idea' more flavourable, by sugarcoating it with a cute, little sobstory, which he completely made up (while making it sound like it was the biblical narrative), about poor baby lucifer who meant it so well and got treated so mean by God, who favored His Son for the mission. Making God seem unfair by twisting and thereby instilling doubt in His Word, to make man turn against Him with another lie. This sounds somewhat familiar I think..🤔
I derived from the Bible that Jesus (the bright morning star) and Lucifer are the same being and the god of Moses is the bad guy. Trying to bind is to the law of sin and death. I agree with the title of the video though: from what I've read Lucifer (Jesus) IS the good guy 🙂❤️🙏🏻
So when Jesus said "I saw Satan fall like lighting, was he talking about himself 💀💀💀 ? The God of Moses, at that time was the father being with Them Yet I suppose you didn't read it carefully, May God Guide you
@@mrcleant401 nah, Yahweh/HaSatan was on the earth walking to and from, even seeing Moses "face to face". Even though Jesus said "no one has seen the father except by me" This takes us to what you brought up. JESUS says "I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning" But ISAIAH (a prophet of Yahweh/Satan and who is NOT Jesus)says "oh how you have fallen oh morning star" trying to call Jesus the enemy. Frankly Isaiah is NOT Jesus so I'm siding with Jesus. Jesus did also say that "ALL that came before me were liars and thieves" I hope this brings more clarity 🙂 God bless you 🙏🏻
The Glass Looker is a know nothing whereas the Bible is concerned.. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Satan rebelled against God, it's just NOT the truth..
Worst out of context video I ever ever seen. This is extremely dangerous to people who haven’t read the Bible and this is completely false. Shame on who made this video.
@@Glass-Looker Your lack of care is a sign that you are working for your god satan. Your heart is already hardened, I hate to say you have blasphemed, but its looking that way judging by how little you care about leading people away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
It’s like it’s impossible to understand God and the real story, as if Lucifer called the snake because he’s the lowest form of life,(he moves on the ground) it’s almost like Lucifer is known as a deceiver, so why trust him, even call him good? Especially when he tried to overthrow God himself. You my friend are sold on the lies that he states. You are Lucifer the deceiver, the liar.
Answer me, how can the one who is not the perpetrator of sin nor the one sinned against take the sin of the world upon him? Only the perpetrator or the victim can take the consequence of the sin, thus Jesus and God must be one. Christ was sinned against, because he is one of the Godhead. Jesus states clearly in John 10:30: "I and the Father are one.”
1) the name Lucifer is a mistranslation 2) There is no Scriptural backing of the idea of Satan being cast from heaven and taking 1/3 of the angels with him prior to Adam. 3) to say that Lucifer /Satan was the good guy it totally without Scriptural support.
Uh, where'd you get that account from? If you believe satan is the good guy, you should read the bible for your facts. Satan knows the bible's true. If it's good enough for your master, is it not good enough for you? We all get a face to face with the One True God. Good luck with yours.
There's no where in the scripture is that. Lucifer was full of pride in the beginning, he has no intention to save mankind, he wanted power above heavens and wanted to be like God, that's why God put consequences in his proud heart by bringing him down to the deepest abyss and subjected him for eternal punishment, he and his companions. God hated that demon so bad because he's the one who brought sin into the world and perverted God's perfect and good creation, that's why we must hate these demons and his works with all our heart just like how God hated both him and sin.
Why are you trying to defend literally the worst being in existence, and trying to make it look like god made a bad choice? What good can come from this
@@rager_fox8147 It's not a "person" it's A.I telling a story that is in one of the made up make believe nonsense books of the "Mormon" religion just like the B.S. comment right below yours. I wouldn't even waste my time responding since your basically responding to a crappy computer program. 🙄🤦🏻✝️🕊
@@eatfrenchtoast Wow I've seen some pretty crappy A.I. programs on Pooptube recently but whoever wrote yours must have been "special needs" or something since the garabge you're attempting to spew doesn't even make sense or fit into reality. Wow just wow. And they call you Artificial "Intelligence" 🙄🤣🤣🤣🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
Just because you are young, and also had good intentions, does not make everything you do right. I don’t think this correct at all, but even if I see this from your point of view, it still falls flat on its face. you said it yourself in the video, Lucifer rebelled against God. rebellion against God is wrong no matter how you put it, or what excuses you may have.
And this argument gets backed up over and over in the scriptures. It's crazy looking back at these stories now that I am no longer a member and realizing just how terrible God is in the Bible.
@Dtj344 imagine believing the scriptures. As to what makes God terrible, I could write an entire book about it. In fact, people have. So I'm not gonna go into everything. Instead I'm gonna go with my personal favorite store. To start with, imagine you're being mauled by a bear. No. Really. Put yourself in that situation. I know that can be difficult, but just try. How is that? Seems a bit scary, no? And painful. Those paws are bigger than a human hand, and the claws at about as long and thicker than my fingers. That shit has to hurt. And you're not dying right away. Or at least most likely not. You're gonna sit there and suffer for at least a minute or two. Now image having that happen as a child. Imagine how much worse that must be. Imagine being a parent and having their child go through that. Do you have kids? Look at them and imagine learning that they were murdered by a bear. Now imagine if it was also a group of their friends. A bunch of kids from the neighborhood just attacked by a bear. You and all of those parents losing their kids. And this is by a wild animal. I'm not gonna downplay a school shooting, but maybe that would help you in a way. But the point being that this was just an animal that came out of nowhere and just killed some kids. Now, final step, you learn that it wasn't random. Those bears are trained. And the bears were given instructions to kill the children. Think of what kind of person would do that. Think of what kind of sociopath that would be. It would be all over the news and people would be calling for their death. The electric chair. Injection. Firing squad. Maybe even just take them out back and get it over with. Because the kind of person who would kill 30+ kids with fucking bears does not deserve to live in this world. ... You see where this is going, right? That person is your God. No no no no. Don't pull away. If you actually tried and you actually put yourself in someone else's shoes for once, and you realized how fucked that is, that's the God of the Bible. He did that. Not metaphorically. He did it. This wasn't me making a story to trick you into picturing something terrible, and then it was gonna be a different terrible thing. He did it. And I get wanting to pull away. I was a believer once. I grew up in the Mormon church. I didn't grow up thinking this. It took me years to come to the conclusion I did. And I'm not trying to convert you. You asked for an adult answer to a complex subject. I'm answering. All I ask is that you show you asked in good faith. So, back to the story. One of God's prophets was going to a town when a bunch of kids shouted our "Go up though bald head!" On one hand, maybe that's a good translation and the dude was bald. As a bald dude, I might have a second where I say "Fuck them kids" to myself, but I'm gonna move on with my dad. I would be pissed at someone for so much as hitting them for that. But maybe there's more to the translation and the insult meant a bit more. Maybe they were making fun of him for being a prophet. That's still some kid shit. Their brains aren't even developed yet. If they were adults, I still wouldn't say they deserve to die over it. People kill each other over shit talking all the time, and I think that's barbaric. But God's not like that. God had 2 bears go and kill the kids. Without looking it up, I want to say it wad something like 34 kids. Dead. And then the prophet went into the town and told those people they needed to worship his God. I choose this story because I think it's a bit easier to grasp. When he commits genocide, it's a bit harder for some to really internalize it. Let alone the concept of eternal punishment. But having kids be brutally murdered in such a fashion for being little assholes? You think that's fine? No? Well that's God. And that's just an example. I think it's a good one. But that's just a part of the reason I view him as evil. Why I would rather go to hell or "outer darkness" for all eternity than be in heaven if he's real. I don't even want the bottom part of heaven where we are still expected to praise him. "But you will think differently on judgement day!" Why? Because I'm afraid? Why should I be afraid of such an amazing God? Kind of sounds like he really is the character from the story with the bears.
@@BananaGeekLordit isn’t god that causes human suffering. people inflict suffering on others. in your scenario, those people were those who trained the bear to kill those children. in different scenarios, god puts you through these situations to teach you a lesson. but if you have faith, he will save you. he just means the best for you. he proved that by dying for our sins. now. i have my beliefs, and you have yours. i won’t judge you, but just think about what i said. have a good day
Your Mormon upbringing has clouded your view of Jesus. It’s understandable because the Jesus they preach is not God. The entire Mormon religion is based on deception. Don’t let your past control your present or your future. If you really want to know the one true God and experience his love for you, then you only open your heart, and he will open your eyes.
I can understand saying Satan was evil after he was cast out, but is God to blame for that? Lucifer did not know good from evil, but God still condemned him to the ultimate punishment. Who is to blame: God or the monster he created?
@@Glass-Looker Lucifer wanted to be like the most high and he got mad when God gave Adam and Eve dominion and made the angels serve them. Lucifer’s jealousy and pride resulted into him being thrown down from heaven
@@LuckyMonkeyVR How was Lucifer jealous and prideful if he didn’t know good and evil? No matter what an infant did, I’m sure you would not give them the death penalty.
@@Glass-Looker an infant can not think highly of themselves and think they deserve to be the most high an infant cant talk. Lucifer wanted to be like the most high God and got jealous when God gave adam and eve dominion over the earth
Adam and Eve did not create an opportunity by sinning. They sinned against God. Lucifer tried to rebel against God and was punished for it. Read the Bible
@@eatfrenchtoast They had it beforehand when they went against God and ate the Tree of Knowledge. They were capably minded enough to listen to God, and still went against Him. Eve had a conversation with the serpent about what tree specifically they weren't allowed to eat from, and a part in the Bible where God gives out Adam's punishment, which is worded specifically like He did in fact have a choice in the matter. God was not forcing them to not do it, and they acted of their own accord, chose to believe the serpent, and did what He told them not to do. That is free will, which is the will to decide for yourself and believe what you wish to believe. The point is that when knowledge comes, sin follows.
@@bears_fan-_- If it's somehow any consolation, just always remember that no matter what God has control over any and all situations. She may have called Lucifer father, and may even have sold her soul to him, but the moment she repents and calls out to Jesus to save her it's all over for him. Jesus will breach the gates of Hell like it's His kingdom for her soul, and will return it to her. No height is high enough and no depth is low enough to escape Him, and there will never be anything out of His reach..
"The guy that got himself kicked out of heaven because he thought he was better than God and didn't need Him, who then decided to condem all of humanity, have zero hobbies and continues to drag as many people down with him as he can because he is petty as heck was actually the good guy." Lord have mercy on this humanity.
IDK why this person is lying to everyone on what Lucifer's origins are. what do they gain from making people think he's a good demon?
@@VoprotheGamer a "good demon" even condraticts itself
They want to take our Christian scriptures, and pollute them with ridiculous heresy.
Yeah but God isn't any better. He is the one who gave satan his powers and lets him condemn us.
@@Narko_Marko Satan was created as a high ranking Angel who decided to reject God and empty himself of all the good God had given him.
Satan was not made evil by God, it was totally Satan's own decision to rebel.
Evil isn't a created thing, nor is it something you give, it is the absence of something, an emptiness, like darkness is the absence of light or cold is the absence of heat. Certainly Satan is much more powerful than you or I, but he isn't a God, he is comparatively weak and under the authority of God.
We humans are also evil, independent of both Satan and God we do wrong because our human nature is to rebel, just like Satan.
Don't get it twisted. Satan condemns no one to hell, he doesn't rule hell or have any authority there. it is his prison and it will be yours if you do not put your faith in Christ and repent. Clearly, humans condemn themselves to hell because we reject God and his mercy through Christ.
Jesus is king
they are all evil and deceiving us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone like this man to help ratio this video
Was king
I don’t believe in monarchies.
This is just wrong. Lucifer is the reason why sin is on earth. Even if this were true ( it isnt the true story) Luficer would still be the bad guy for literally being the reason for ALL sin.
Yeah, none of this story is true. Every last character in it is made up.
The snake (undefined as whether or not, this is Lucifer, or not) tempted us (Adam and Eve) to follow our natural nature of sin, and break from God's Word. Lucifer can Only tempt a human, but cannot cause us to sin we have a natural proclivity to sin
This was taken from the book of Moses, i.e. it was made up by Joseph Smith, so yeah, not Biblical at all. Though honestly, it seems like something Lucifer might say. Notice how in his own words he seeks to glorify himself and replace God as the redeemer of humanity. So, in essence, he commits the greatest sin of all. The video just reinforces why God would be justified in expelling Lucifer. 😄
The devil character in your books is an unthinking unchanging creature without free will.
@@eatfrenchtoast wtf does that even mean?? After reading several of your ridiculously simple minded comments it is clear that you are just another A.I. bot like we see running rampant all over Pooptube today. 🤖 🐒💩🙄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The amount of comments here getting all bent out of shape because they don't realise this is talking about Mormon theology is quite entertaining.
Adam and Eve were immortal beings until the devil deceived them into eating the forbidden fruit so the devil is the reason men became mortal read the bible please
I'm not a mormon and I don't follow the book of mormon. But I follow what is written in the bible, In Genesis 3:22-23, Adam and Eve are not immortal beings, as the book claimed. But If they ate the fruit of tree of life they will. In conclusion Adam and Eve were mortal to begin with.
You mean the tree of knowledge?
@@eatfrenchtoast In genesis 2:9, there were two trees at the center of the garden, the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
they are all evil and deceiving us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he just tempted, two human dummies fell for it, so god created or let evil evolve instead of doing something about it, then throws a baby fit about it, he is evil ! he is the creator of sin! and they were not immortal they just had long lives!
"this person that does everything in his power to make all of humanity suffer for all our lives and for all eternity in hell was actually good guy" really interesting opinion
How did you come to this conclusion?
This is all made up make believe Mormon gibberish which looks to have been created by some ridiculously simple A.I. tech, it's not even worth trying to understand it because only the simple minded brainwashed buffoons of the world fall for crap like this
they are all evil and deceiving us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What Bible are you reading from? Cause it ain’t the king James.
Might be Queen Jennifer
It's not Biblical. It's Joseph Smith's work in the book of Moses, which is in the Mormon book The Pearl of Great Price.
they are all evil and deceiving us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That’s like saying death is good. 😂😢
“Death is just a part of life”-Ching ping ying
Plot twist: Satan really was the good guy trying to overthrow Elohim’s tyrannical regime, but he lost the war and as punishment was exiled and made the scapegoat for all of Elohim’s evils.
Lucifer looked upon himself but kept his rebellious thoughts secret for a long time. Jesus was not 'one of God's sons', but the son. I understand why people worship Lucifer, because he is the author of doing what you think is best. But that concept is being played out, and it is not going well. God will be vindicated, and his righteous principles will be proven just. As is shown by every example of his leadership, Lucifer will agree that he is not a good guy.
When satan sinned, it was in eternity. It was a place where there in no past, no present, no future. That means his sin is on-going and unrepentant. That is why God cannot forgive satan.
Pretty much. God can not forgive Satan because he's not human.
Cool story, sadly Lucifer never said that and knew the difference between good and bad 😭
Bruh who is making this shit up?
It’s basic knowledge that Lucifer was an angel not the son of god. Lucifer and Jesus are not conceptually related in that way.
I’m not even a devout Christian and I know this
This is based on Mormon theology.
@@Glass-Lookeryou stupid 😂
I have to side with him on this one, Jesus is actually Lucifer (the morning star) and that's not a bad thing 🙂❤️🙏🏻
@@Glass-Looker That tracks
I'm glad I'm not the only person who knows that Lucifer wasn't the bad guy, but there's a lot more to the story than what's said in this video.
First, "Lucifer" isn't the name of the devil - that comes only from one, single translation called the Vulgate, penned in around 380AD by (later St.) Jerome. "Lucifer" is Latin - luci- from lux (light), and -fer as in transfer and confer - i.e. to transfer to bring. So, Lucifer is the "Bringer of Light". The "bringer of light" is the "morning star", known to us as the planet Venus. If you live in the iron age world of the advent of Christianity, then you frequently see Venus follow the sun down in the evening, or heralding the coming of the sun just before sunrise (the bringer of light). This happens because Venus's orbit is inside the Earth's orbit, so it will always appear somewhat in the direction of the sun (never in the middle of the night). Jupiter, for example, is up in the middle of the night frequently, and you don't typically see it transiting the horizon just before or after your nighttime sleep - on the other hand, Venus would seem like a "falling star" or "light bringer", and was known for that in many astrological traditions, not just the Judeo-Christian mythology.
So, Jerome was translating a metaphor at Isiah 12:14 wherein a king of Babylon "fell" or was "laid low" to become a common person. The word Jerome chose from Latin was the name Lucifer in the metaphor, and that Vulgate translation was subsequently used for other translations, including notably the King James Bible, and these subsequent translations took it as a literal name rather than a double entendre inferring a relationship to the planet Venus in the story of the "fallen" king.
Aside from that, Lucifer doesn't occur in the Vulgate Bible and many subsequent translations of it - that's the only specific reference to "Lucifer". However, if we reach a bit outside canonical texts to e.g. Milton in Paradise Lost, we can read it in the way the medieval author intended, in a world where loyalty to monarchy was seen as a virtue; or we can read it from our own post-Enlightenment perspective. If you read it from the original perspective, God put down a rebellion of angles led by Lucifer, as should any monarch. From our perspective, however, Lucifer was leading a democratic revolution against the autocratic, authoritarian regime of God, and the democratic revolution failed. As they say, the winner writes the history, so it's no surprise that Lucifer might be portrayed in God's war propaganda as a "devil", though he was a leading angel and very close to God before the democratic revolution.
Lucifer was a good guy. One of the best. Not anymore, and never again.
There is a such thing as having good intentions and screwing up. Any other questions?
Praying for you in the name of Jesus. God loves you so much he sent his son to die for you. God is all that is good. ❤
they are all evil and deceiving us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a joke, right I’ve never read any of this in the Bible
It’s based on Mormon theology.
@@Glass-Lookerwhich is inaccurate.. Read the KJV
This is a sick twisted story. Lucifer wants to save mankind? There was no mankind yet, it was 1 man and 1 woman and that he tempted them to sin before the rest of mankind comes. And that causes the whole mankind to sin because they were the offspring of that 1man and 1woman. Jesus came to save mankind.
When reading the KJV I agree with the conclusion, but not in the same way this video explains it.
Jesus says "no one has seen the father except by me" but how can all these Israelites" see the LORD and fall on their faces"?
Why does Jesus call the father of the Pharisees (who were devout Jews who worshipped the god of Moses) Satan and the father of lies and a murderer from the beginning (Genesis)?
How do you reconcile Deuteronomy 34 with Jude 1:9?
People are mentally disconnected from their heart, therefore do bad and "evil" ways. it's not the devils fault, it's human experience.
Satan is the father of lies. Jesus is Lord of all, Colossians 1:15-18
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. 18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.
they are all evil and deceiving us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If hell is punishment for bad people ....doesn't that make Lucifer the good guy???😂😂😂😂
Hell was created for the devil because he wanted a place where God wasn't, and wanted to be God, the lake of fire was created by God as the devils eternal punishment for all the evil he is doing. The devil is petty so he is throwing God's children into the lake of fire because the only way he can attack God is by breaking his heart. You are the devils revenge by dragging you away from Jesus, ensures that you in up in hell along with the devil for all of eternity. The perfect revenge against God. And we fall for the same lie eve did in the garden of Eden everyday and give our authority to rule earth over to the devil by being obedient to the devil over YHWH
So you're saying evil is good and good is evil?
Satan good and God evil?
Satan really did a number on you.
Repent with wailing and return to the Lord
Read carefully what Lucifer says, emphasis added:
"Behold, here am I. Send *_ME. I_* will be thy Son and *_I_* will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely *_I_* will do it. Wherefore, give *_ME_* thine honor." 😈
By contrast, Jesus seeks to do the will of God alone and give all glory to him:
"Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever." 😇
There was no "good intention" here. Satan committed the greatest of any sin. Expulsion justified. Good job, God. ✅
The Mormon book must be crazy 💀☠️
Uhh..... guys, this guy is talking about MORMON Lucifer. THE MORMON INTERPRETATION OF HIM, ACCORDING TO **MORMONS**
Where is he getting this stuff?
It's a robot
Mormons maybe?
23 seconds in and it's inaccurate
Ezekiel 28: 12-19: Satan was once the signet of perfection and beauty but turned due to his lust for violence, death and destruction, He was cast off the mountain of God and began his conquest of earth. Satan is a liar. We are the ones who will Judge the devil with our testimony in Heaven. Those who overcome the fleshly nature of violence and rebellion; which received salvation through the blood of the Lamb. In the end, the devil and his children will be burned over. Repent, turn to Christ for the Kingdom of God is at hand.
Interesting how he tries to make his demonic 'idea' more flavourable, by sugarcoating it with a cute, little sobstory, which he completely made up (while making it sound like it was the biblical narrative), about poor baby lucifer who meant it so well and got treated so mean by God, who favored His Son for the mission. Making God seem unfair by twisting and thereby instilling doubt in His Word, to make man turn against Him with another lie. This sounds somewhat familiar I think..🤔
I derived from the Bible that Jesus (the bright morning star) and Lucifer are the same being and the god of Moses is the bad guy. Trying to bind is to the law of sin and death.
I agree with the title of the video though: from what I've read Lucifer (Jesus) IS the good guy 🙂❤️🙏🏻
So when Jesus said "I saw Satan fall like lighting, was he talking about himself 💀💀💀 ?
The God of Moses, at that time was the father being with Them
Yet I suppose you didn't read it carefully, May God Guide you
@@mrcleant401 nah, Yahweh/HaSatan was on the earth walking to and from, even seeing Moses "face to face". Even though Jesus said "no one has seen the father except by me"
This takes us to what you brought up. JESUS says "I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning"
But ISAIAH (a prophet of Yahweh/Satan and who is NOT Jesus)says "oh how you have fallen oh morning star" trying to call Jesus the enemy.
Frankly Isaiah is NOT Jesus so I'm siding with Jesus.
Jesus did also say that "ALL that came before me were liars and thieves"
I hope this brings more clarity 🙂
God bless you 🙏🏻
Lol no
Blasfemy
The Glass Looker is a know nothing whereas the Bible is concerned.. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Satan rebelled against God, it's just NOT the truth..
As stated in the description, this is based on Mormon theology.
Worst out of context video I ever ever seen. This is extremely dangerous to people who haven’t read the Bible and this is completely false. Shame on who made this video.
Thanks, I’m really glad you enjoyed it ;)
@@Glass-LookerBut seriously, spreding false lies about God and purposeful blasphemy towards God is horrible.
First they changed Harry Potter for the movie and now this. Oh brother.
@@Glass-Looker Your lack of care is a sign that you are working for your god satan. Your heart is already hardened, I hate to say you have blasphemed, but its looking that way judging by how little you care about leading people away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
That's the beauty of the Bible. It's broad enough to support multiple competing doctrines and ideas.
This is just as twisted as hazbin hotel. Why is this guy justifying Satan’s actions???
Jesus and ONLY JESUS
There are multiple sides of one story' but there's only one side being told......
Christ is King
It’s like it’s impossible to understand God and the real story, as if Lucifer called the snake because he’s the lowest form of life,(he moves on the ground) it’s almost like Lucifer is known as a deceiver, so why trust him, even call him good? Especially when he tried to overthrow God himself. You my friend are sold on the lies that he states. You are Lucifer the deceiver, the liar.
Answer me, how can the one who is not the perpetrator of sin nor the one sinned against take the sin of the world upon him?
Only the perpetrator or the victim can take the consequence of the sin, thus Jesus and God must be one.
Christ was sinned against, because he is one of the Godhead. Jesus states clearly in John 10:30: "I and the Father are one.”
Nothing about Satan is good. By nature he cannot do anything but evil.
This is seriously a whole new level of stupidity.
WAS..... Not anymore!
1) the name Lucifer is a mistranslation
2) There is no Scriptural backing of the idea of Satan being cast from heaven and taking 1/3 of the angels with him prior to Adam.
3) to say that Lucifer /Satan was the good guy it totally without Scriptural support.
Uh, where'd you get that account from? If you believe satan is the good guy, you should read the bible for your facts. Satan knows the bible's true. If it's good enough for your master, is it not good enough for you? We all get a face to face with the One True God. Good luck with yours.
As stated in the description, this is based on Mormon theology.
All good intentions are lead by evil deeds
please tell me this is satire
Another heart set in stone.
The thief comes to kill steal and destroy but I con so that they may have life and have it fully don’t be deceived
This is the most ridiculous and absurd thing I’ve ever heard. I’m not sure what Bible you’re reading from but you are definitely lost.
This is based on Mormon theology, not just the Bible.
@@Glass-Lookerexactly keep it in the bible not with Mormon theology
@@Glass-Looker Mormon Theology is heretical.
@@Glass-Looker Dude, Mormons don't believe Lucifer was "the good guy". This is honestly the stupidest thing I have ever heard.🤦
Correct, they don’t believe he is good. That’s why this video is offering an alternative perspective for them.
Wrong... God judged Lucifer.
God alone is the Judge. And he judges Ritchousely. Not you.
Didnt watch. Couldnt watch. The title alone... Just came to say shame on you
this donest even make sense
There's no where in the scripture is that. Lucifer was full of pride in the beginning, he has no intention to save mankind, he wanted power above heavens and wanted to be like God, that's why God put consequences in his proud heart by bringing him down to the deepest abyss and subjected him for eternal punishment, he and his companions.
God hated that demon so bad because he's the one who brought sin into the world and perverted God's perfect and good creation, that's why we must hate these demons and his works with all our heart just like how God hated both him and sin.
wrong title, a better one is
"lucifer is the god of the mormons"
In the words of Dr. Evil: “Riiiiight.”
Luke 10:18
Why are you trying to defend literally the worst being in existence, and trying to make it look like god made a bad choice? What good can come from this
This person is not defending the Devil, this person is trying to deceive people. May the Lord of all the earth rebuke him, or her.
Well the God character in your mythology did create hell and the devil and put him in charge of it. So that too is your God characters will.
@@rager_fox8147 It's not a "person" it's A.I telling a story that is in one of the made up make believe nonsense books of the "Mormon" religion just like the B.S. comment right below yours. I wouldn't even waste my time responding since your basically responding to a crappy computer program. 🙄🤦🏻✝️🕊
@@eatfrenchtoast Wow I've seen some pretty crappy A.I. programs on Pooptube recently but whoever wrote yours must have been "special needs" or something since the garabge you're attempting to spew doesn't even make sense or fit into reality. Wow just wow. And they call you Artificial "Intelligence" 🙄🤣🤣🤣🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫
@@eatfrenchtoast Satan is just as much a prisoner in Hell as any who blaspheme against the Lord they God.
Dude is just making things up! Smh
It's from the book of Moses, a non-Biblical text written by Joseph Smith. It's an LDS piece.
@@Nathaniel_Peterson oh, so he's quoting that degenerate false teacher. Figures.
Just because you are young, and also had good intentions, does not make everything you do right. I don’t think this correct at all, but even if I see this from your point of view, it still falls flat on its face. you said it yourself in the video, Lucifer rebelled against God. rebellion against God is wrong no matter how you put it, or what excuses you may have.
Liars
This is AI generated
phahahah Jesus is God lucifer never wanted to redeem mankind how did u even made this up
As stated in the description, this is based on Mormon theology.
ye maybe you would wanna get your information straight from the source(Bible)@@Glass-Looker
And this argument gets backed up over and over in the scriptures. It's crazy looking back at these stories now that I am no longer a member and realizing just how terrible God is in the Bible.
Imagine believing this video
What makes the God terrible?
@Dtj344 imagine believing the scriptures.
As to what makes God terrible, I could write an entire book about it. In fact, people have. So I'm not gonna go into everything. Instead I'm gonna go with my personal favorite store.
To start with, imagine you're being mauled by a bear.
No. Really. Put yourself in that situation. I know that can be difficult, but just try.
How is that? Seems a bit scary, no? And painful. Those paws are bigger than a human hand, and the claws at about as long and thicker than my fingers. That shit has to hurt. And you're not dying right away. Or at least most likely not. You're gonna sit there and suffer for at least a minute or two.
Now image having that happen as a child. Imagine how much worse that must be.
Imagine being a parent and having their child go through that. Do you have kids? Look at them and imagine learning that they were murdered by a bear.
Now imagine if it was also a group of their friends. A bunch of kids from the neighborhood just attacked by a bear. You and all of those parents losing their kids.
And this is by a wild animal. I'm not gonna downplay a school shooting, but maybe that would help you in a way. But the point being that this was just an animal that came out of nowhere and just killed some kids.
Now, final step, you learn that it wasn't random. Those bears are trained. And the bears were given instructions to kill the children. Think of what kind of person would do that. Think of what kind of sociopath that would be. It would be all over the news and people would be calling for their death. The electric chair. Injection. Firing squad. Maybe even just take them out back and get it over with. Because the kind of person who would kill 30+ kids with fucking bears does not deserve to live in this world.
... You see where this is going, right? That person is your God.
No no no no. Don't pull away. If you actually tried and you actually put yourself in someone else's shoes for once, and you realized how fucked that is, that's the God of the Bible. He did that. Not metaphorically. He did it. This wasn't me making a story to trick you into picturing something terrible, and then it was gonna be a different terrible thing. He did it.
And I get wanting to pull away. I was a believer once. I grew up in the Mormon church. I didn't grow up thinking this. It took me years to come to the conclusion I did. And I'm not trying to convert you. You asked for an adult answer to a complex subject. I'm answering. All I ask is that you show you asked in good faith.
So, back to the story. One of God's prophets was going to a town when a bunch of kids shouted our "Go up though bald head!" On one hand, maybe that's a good translation and the dude was bald. As a bald dude, I might have a second where I say "Fuck them kids" to myself, but I'm gonna move on with my dad. I would be pissed at someone for so much as hitting them for that.
But maybe there's more to the translation and the insult meant a bit more. Maybe they were making fun of him for being a prophet. That's still some kid shit. Their brains aren't even developed yet. If they were adults, I still wouldn't say they deserve to die over it. People kill each other over shit talking all the time, and I think that's barbaric.
But God's not like that. God had 2 bears go and kill the kids. Without looking it up, I want to say it wad something like 34 kids. Dead. And then the prophet went into the town and told those people they needed to worship his God.
I choose this story because I think it's a bit easier to grasp. When he commits genocide, it's a bit harder for some to really internalize it. Let alone the concept of eternal punishment. But having kids be brutally murdered in such a fashion for being little assholes? You think that's fine? No?
Well that's God. And that's just an example. I think it's a good one. But that's just a part of the reason I view him as evil. Why I would rather go to hell or "outer darkness" for all eternity than be in heaven if he's real. I don't even want the bottom part of heaven where we are still expected to praise him.
"But you will think differently on judgement day!"
Why? Because I'm afraid? Why should I be afraid of such an amazing God? Kind of sounds like he really is the character from the story with the bears.
@@BananaGeekLordit isn’t god that causes human suffering. people inflict suffering on others. in your scenario, those people were those who trained the bear to kill those children. in different scenarios, god puts you through these situations to teach you a lesson. but if you have faith, he will save you. he just means the best for you. he proved that by dying for our sins.
now. i have my beliefs, and you have yours. i won’t judge you, but just think about what i said. have a good day
Your Mormon upbringing has clouded your view of Jesus. It’s understandable because the Jesus they preach is not God. The entire Mormon religion is based on deception. Don’t let your past control your present or your future. If you really want to know the one true God and experience his love for you, then you only open your heart, and he will open your eyes.
What a load of crap with nice ai commentary. For those dont believe we are in the end days grab and re read yours or anyone elses bibe.
This is just wrong, satan is not the good guy. He brought sin upon the earth and he rebelled against God
I can understand saying Satan was evil after he was cast out, but is God to blame for that? Lucifer did not know good from evil, but God still condemned him to the ultimate punishment. Who is to blame: God or the monster he created?
@@Glass-Looker Lucifer wanted to be like the most high and he got mad when God gave Adam and Eve dominion and made the angels serve them. Lucifer’s jealousy and pride resulted into him being thrown down from heaven
Psalms 91:11 talks about God sending angels to serve us and Lucifer thought highly of himself
@@LuckyMonkeyVR How was Lucifer jealous and prideful if he didn’t know good and evil? No matter what an infant did, I’m sure you would not give them the death penalty.
@@Glass-Looker an infant can not think highly of themselves and think they deserve to be the most high an infant cant talk. Lucifer wanted to be like the most high God and got jealous when God gave adam and eve dominion over the earth
This is a lie from the pit of hell!
Nor Mormon
Nah this is cap
Adam and Eve did not create an opportunity by sinning. They sinned against God. Lucifer tried to rebel against God and was punished for it. Read the Bible
How else would Adam and Eve have free will without knowledge? The point of the myth is knowledge is a burden and comes at a cost.
@@eatfrenchtoast They had it beforehand when they went against God and ate the Tree of Knowledge. They were capably minded enough to listen to God, and still went against Him. Eve had a conversation with the serpent about what tree specifically they weren't allowed to eat from, and a part in the Bible where God gives out Adam's punishment, which is worded specifically like He did in fact have a choice in the matter. God was not forcing them to not do it, and they acted of their own accord, chose to believe the serpent, and did what He told them not to do. That is free will, which is the will to decide for yourself and believe what you wish to believe. The point is that when knowledge comes, sin follows.
I love my Father Lucifer.
You can still be saved. You have just said a horrible thing, whether or not you are joking, but please find God in your heart.
I’m not joking. I love my Father Lucifer. He is a great and loving guy once you get to know him.
@@thecozyvvitch I feel so bad that you have been decieved. This is not a funny joke and is just horrible.
@@thecozyvvitch Lucifer loves himself, and himself alone. You've been punk'd.
@@bears_fan-_- If it's somehow any consolation, just always remember that no matter what God has control over any and all situations. She may have called Lucifer father, and may even have sold her soul to him, but the moment she repents and calls out to Jesus to save her it's all over for him. Jesus will breach the gates of Hell like it's His kingdom for her soul, and will return it to her. No height is high enough and no depth is low enough to escape Him, and there will never be anything out of His reach..
This is soo stupid.
1o√3 Matteo ⚡🪽😇
There is a such thing as having good intentions and screwing up. Any other questions?
There is a such thing as having good intentions and screwing up. Any other questions?
There is a such thing as having good intentions and screwing up. Any other questions?
There is a such thing as having good intentions and screwing up. Any other questions?
There is a such thing as having good intentions and screwing up. Any other questions?