American Grunge: Sean Kinney, Jerry Cantrell, Hetfield, Cobain Saved Troubled Kid, Best Drummers

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  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 4 місяці тому +30

    "Our little group has always been, and always will until the end..."

    • @davidcross701
      @davidcross701 4 місяці тому +2

      exactly... like a prophecy foretold....

    • @grungegods
      @grungegods 4 місяці тому +2

      Until kurt gets justice

    • @johnbest1978
      @johnbest1978 4 місяці тому

      Absolutely

  • @capslock4959
    @capslock4959 4 місяці тому +14

    Hetfield did make fun of Layne too, there's a video of Metallica starting to play man in the box and Hetfield pretends he's sticking a needle in his arm. Taking shots at AIC for missing their tour due to Layne's addiction. He did end up getting a shoe thrown at him though

  • @Brosenbrose
    @Brosenbrose 4 місяці тому +10

    THANK YOU for mentioning Stephen Perkins! And Sean Kinney on No Excuses is to this day somewhat unmatched!

  • @HaXaW5150
    @HaXaW5150 4 місяці тому +9

    A.I.C opened for Van Halen. And ,yes we Metal guys loved them.

    • @Melinda_B62
      @Melinda_B62 4 місяці тому +7

      We hard rock girls did too - that was an awesome tour!

  • @jorvikaengelskvinna7157
    @jorvikaengelskvinna7157 4 місяці тому +7

    I came to Nirvana after The Cure, too, as I only listened to the alternative music radio station. I was at University when SLTS came out. It was a defining moment.

    • @p0ison_0ak33
      @p0ison_0ak33 4 місяці тому +2

      My husband is named after Robert Smith 💯😍🤘 love the cure. 🙏🙋‍♀️✌️

  • @sandyg202
    @sandyg202 4 місяці тому +6

    Totally agree with the BEST metal song being, "Fade to Black!"

  • @bubscat2984
    @bubscat2984 4 місяці тому +5

    Visting a friend in SF went to AIC at the Warfield theater. Midway through we looked to the left and right there, with all us pleabs was Hetfield rocking out! I nodded and he smiled and I had to do a whatfor as I nudged my buddy! He was there for 20 minutes or so then came "Would!" Not sure if that was first ever colab or not, but super cool!

    • @The_Crow78.
      @The_Crow78. 4 місяці тому +2

      I didn't see you there.

  • @FrozeMoments
    @FrozeMoments 4 місяці тому +8

    Oh yeah. Everyone was rock until Nirvana came out. It was so simple and different yet loaded with emotion and so obviously insanely deep, great and wide.
    “A little group that’s always been and always will be until the end” got me because I was like…”these guys get me.

    • @lobotomyscam1051
      @lobotomyscam1051 4 місяці тому

      Well, that line is sarcastic and picking on typical high school hive mentality, but you can listen and interpret the song any way you choose.

  • @vmc7773
    @vmc7773 4 місяці тому +5

    Im always looking forward to ur content ❤and new vids! Fk negative remarks , know uve got a tonne of ppl thinking the same as myself! (Its how u know ur making it - polarising opinions, reaching out to ppl who agree and who disagree) your voice is being heard 😊 well done for living a normal life and uploading content!! Bloody hard work ❤ for your presenter n yourself 😊 sorry didnt catch her name... luv ur stuff!

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому +2

      Thanks. Just had a company email me wanting to manage the channel, edit the videos, and "take it to the next level." I told them I'd rather remain independent than do what they want me to do.

  • @Brosenbrose
    @Brosenbrose 4 місяці тому +8

    AIC Facelift was literally the first CD I bought, after seeing Man in the Box on MTV. This was appx a year before Nevermind IIRC. To this day AIC remains one of my top favorite bands, even moreso than Nirvana.

    • @BarbaraT.
      @BarbaraT. 4 місяці тому +1

      Facelift really is a revolutionary album!

  • @yanahakai
    @yanahakai 4 місяці тому +4

    I love Grunge News 🥰

  • @stevenluebbert926
    @stevenluebbert926 4 місяці тому +1

    Charlie and Marie,
    I really enjoyed this video , I loved your coverage about the drummers!
    I watched it three times, it was a finely crafted video. Can’t wait for next Grunge News!!! 🥁🎶🦊

  • @davidcross701
    @davidcross701 4 місяці тому +4

    18:00 Ditto to this conversion mark. I was at home in my room watching MTV. I did heard from friends about some band called Nirvana. I waited for that premier video! Musically, when I saw Smells like teen spirit, it blew my mind! I was, at this time into all the metal and rock stuff, especially Thrash metal. I had gone alternative music in November of 1989, with Depeche Mode. And Techno rave. But Nirvana change everything... what rock I new, died that fall of 1991. The album change my life and my musical trajectory.... still to this day!

  • @legandrydirk
    @legandrydirk 4 місяці тому +5

    Hello from bonnie Scotland Charlie

  • @lorrieoiler1878
    @lorrieoiler1878 4 місяці тому +4

    I love Sean Kinney's fills in "Love Hate Love."

  • @danielktdoranie
    @danielktdoranie 4 місяці тому +6

    AIC was a metal band IMHO

  • @20th_century_specter
    @20th_century_specter 4 місяці тому +3

    When I was a kid in the early 90s, my older cousin was a drummer in a metal band, and he would turn me on to a lot of music I didn't know about. I remember we would listen to the Nevermind album in his car, along with Pearl Jam, Metallica, Alice in Chains, etc...

  • @respectforkurt944
    @respectforkurt944 4 місяці тому

    Great vid!

  • @HollowWaterso
    @HollowWaterso 4 місяці тому +1

    Great episode Charles and Marie!

  • @user-sg5gl1gl3s
    @user-sg5gl1gl3s 4 місяці тому

    Bunch of thanks from Russia! Really loved the episode, all the best, and looking forward..

  • @thebigbopper6000
    @thebigbopper6000 4 місяці тому +1

    Drummers
    Chamberlain, Grohl, Cameron, Barrett Martin, Danny Carry, Steve Moriarty, Sean Kenny, Dale Crover, Patti Schemel, Dan Peters..

  • @zacharyjohnson7096
    @zacharyjohnson7096 4 місяці тому +3

    Speaking of haircuts. Yours is looking good there Charlie!! Looking spy foxy!!

  • @davidcross701
    @davidcross701 4 місяці тому +5

    3:15 Metal, black, Hard rock, Glam from the 60s to the 80s, these bands never got along. Compare to Grunge and New metal, during and after the 1990s, these bands even wore other bands concert T-Shirts! Also, there were more women bands in Grunge and Alternative Rock!

  • @user-hg9rp1yr5i
    @user-hg9rp1yr5i 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video guys.

  • @johnbest1978
    @johnbest1978 4 місяці тому +6

    You were right Charles they made fun of Layne when he backed out of the one tour. And during Metallica's set they made fun of Layne so badly about his drug use. It was horrible Charles and so sad. Great episode tonight by the way. Love when you have these but I love everything from your channel and the hard work. And what a fantastic article. I remember where I was and what I was doing when I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit. I was at the mall at the arcade and it came over the sound system and I immediately went to Sam Goody and bought Nevermind and listened to it until the cassette tape inside the tape casing was so stretched out and I went and bought another copy. Along with screaming trees.

    • @gregoryholstein4224
      @gregoryholstein4224 4 місяці тому

      @johnbest1978 yes John I lost any feeling I had for James after seeing him bag Layne by pretending he was having a shot, bastard

    • @xylemphloem
      @xylemphloem 4 місяці тому +1

      Fun times!

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому +1

      That's crazy!

    • @johnbest1978
      @johnbest1978 4 місяці тому

      @@AmericanSpyFox Hope your having a great day my friend. Thank you for commenting on my post.

    • @shellydavis4399
      @shellydavis4399 3 місяці тому

      I first saw Beastie Boys when MTV came out. My big brother took me to the local music store....I did the same thing with my tape. Once it snapped...he took me to get another one. I later on once I turned 22, in 2 yrs. went to 5 beastie boys concerts! Best time of my life seeing them. Thierry concerts are insanely fun! I lived in Seattle at the timemalso.

  • @TJ-id6ee
    @TJ-id6ee 4 місяці тому +2

    Funny you say that about Matt. I saw him waiting for his daughter while shopping in Uwajimaya market downtown Seattle. I was the only one that recognized him. Lol

  • @mr.blonde66milkyway66
    @mr.blonde66milkyway66 4 місяці тому

    Great new segment!!!

  • @transmissionggb2820
    @transmissionggb2820 4 місяці тому +1

    If it comes from heart and sounds good I don’t care what kind of music it is called and that’s why my vinyl collection is open to anything that stirs some kind of emotion. “Just play it from your fucking heart” as the great bill hicks said and I will listen to it and give it a chance.

  • @mrspgp
    @mrspgp 4 місяці тому +5

    ppl were pissed at Hetfield(same show w/Kurt clip)bc was making fun of Staley miming shooting up and shitting on him for being too "sick" to play the show, altjough I still love Metallica and have seen them lots over the yrs(2019 last time) I was a little salty over the Layne thing when I saw it bc Staley is my favorite vocalist, has been since 1991 ✌🏻

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому +3

      Didn't people throw shoes at them?

    • @user-sg5gl1gl3s
      @user-sg5gl1gl3s 4 місяці тому

      Ironically, years later he would find himself in the very same grip of the addiction demon Layne used to battle with...

  • @A.I-GAMING
    @A.I-GAMING 4 місяці тому +3

    Alice in Chains toured with Van Halen.

  • @tommyconancoates7097
    @tommyconancoates7097 4 місяці тому +2

    Your sidekick is a fox, shes a super cutie for sure!!!

  • @lobotomyscam1051
    @lobotomyscam1051 4 місяці тому +1

    Alice in Chains was on Headbangers Ball way before the term grunge was created.

  • @birdiedog5
    @birdiedog5 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for giving Taylor props. Taylor is technically masterful. Love his drumming.

  • @momster93
    @momster93 4 місяці тому

    I had NO IDEA Chris drummed for sound garden! Cool

  • @pdp7653
    @pdp7653 4 місяці тому +1

    Metallica and Alice In Chains have been friends for years...at Alice in chains mtv unplugged, the reason mike Inez had "friends don't let friends get friends haircuts" on his bass, was to poke fun at Metallica, who were sitting in the front row.

  • @joleneloveland4602
    @joleneloveland4602 4 місяці тому

    The clip of Alice In Chains and Hetfield was shocking. Hetfield definitely was an asset to the sound of the group. He added a heavier guitar sound that went so well with AIC! And that voice! He's a natural.
    Way to go, James!
    Do some more.
    Also it would be definitely interesting to hear him play with Kim in Soundgarden.😮❤

  • @B.Abaracus
    @B.Abaracus 4 місяці тому +1

    Kurt and Nirvana saved my life too my favorite band of all time Nirvana and right behind em Alice in chains 💯

    • @legandrydirk
      @legandrydirk 4 місяці тому

      Kurt nearly took mines
      When he was in Rome we found hospital and I was going to write him a letter
      Was drinking with my friends in a caravan beside a fishary
      And as was leaving to go to next van to write it feel in and woukd drowned if my two friends never jumped in
      And others got rope around me and dragged me out partailly straggling me
      One of my mates ended up with PTSD still feel responsible for that to this day
      I'm still here though suffice to say Kurt never received my letter 😀

  • @user-uj7ri5um6g
    @user-uj7ri5um6g 4 місяці тому

    EVERYTHING is Tribe ! We all join the Tribe . Remember a little tribe will always be ! Hello hello hello hello .

  • @christysayers41
    @christysayers41 4 місяці тому

    ❤ keep it up

  • @hitesh_blues2353
    @hitesh_blues2353 4 місяці тому

    Would love hear your Nirvana covers ASF

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому

      I have a few on a playlist called AmericanSpyFox Drum Covers, but intend to door more in the future. Had to teach myself how to record and mix drum tracks.

  • @fenderfox5080
    @fenderfox5080 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey Charles if you need any help with the Nirvana covers I'd love to help? Just throwing it out there😊 I know you can handle it though🤘

  • @20th_century_specter
    @20th_century_specter 4 місяці тому +5

    P.S. I remember being really pissed when James Hetfield said that about Kurt back then.

    • @buddingvenus8487
      @buddingvenus8487 4 місяці тому +1

      Hetfield is really full of himself. Him and Lars are just two ego maniacs clashing.

  • @carolfyall688
    @carolfyall688 4 місяці тому +1

    Haha the haircut thing for Metallica. Too funny

  • @bellwether_ritual
    @bellwether_ritual 4 місяці тому +1

    We are a grunge influenced band who would love to help with a Nirvana cover if you need! Long time watcher of your channel. Love these news items with Marie. Cheers 🎶

  • @amyconway9923
    @amyconway9923 4 місяці тому +3

    Love layne angel❤

  • @carolfyall688
    @carolfyall688 4 місяці тому +2

    Hello you two. This looks good. Alice in chains is a great example of gona be a metal type but they chose the right path. Such a great genre of music. Jerry is still such a humble lovely Person in interviews. I love Linkin Park too. Metallica are pricks. What they done to Layne playing a bit of their song while pretending to jag there arm since AIC had to pull out. That was off. I love how Layne pushed Jerry to do more saying their Your songs too. No ego. Love it.

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому +2

      Jerry didn't even want to sing until Layne pushed him. Good point.

  • @louiecmancuzo2903
    @louiecmancuzo2903 4 місяці тому

    I know he's not a "grunge" drummer, but Jimmy Chamberlin. There can't be a list of the top 90s drummers without his name being mentioned.

  • @bplumb82
    @bplumb82 4 місяці тому

    Sneaking in some of Kurt's feedback. lol

  • @christinelikeschrysanthemu9423
    @christinelikeschrysanthemu9423 4 місяці тому +1

    Go listen to how much Rick Beato praises Kurt’s lyrics, song writing AND guitar playing.
    Nice job on the G news 👍🏻

  • @amyconway9923
    @amyconway9923 4 місяці тому +2

    Hey guys ☕☕❤❤❤

  • @joleneloveland4602
    @joleneloveland4602 4 місяці тому

    Yeah its called a rim shot. Throwing in a little extra beat it could be used in a time signature like 5/4 time. But since the song is not in that time signature those little extra beats adds a bit of syncopation and interest to a song

  • @thacryinggame
    @thacryinggame 4 місяці тому

    Hallowed be thy name is the best metal song

  • @mimc1831
    @mimc1831 4 місяці тому +5

    PLEASE!! 🇺🇸🔍🦊 please work on an Andrew Wood/Mother Love Bone doc. If there were no Landrew there would be no "grunge". The tree didn't grow far from the "Apple". ✌️🍀♥️

    • @mimc1831
      @mimc1831 4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for recognizing my comment. You're a brother from another mother. " All in all is all we are"

  • @johnlimpkin
    @johnlimpkin 4 місяці тому

    If you are in Seattle go to the Hazelwood Bar in Ballard and buy Big Ben Sheppard a drink, nicest guy you'll ever meet

  • @christinelikeschrysanthemu9423
    @christinelikeschrysanthemu9423 4 місяці тому +1

    Jimmy Chamberlin 🥁🙌🏻

    • @louiecmancuzo2903
      @louiecmancuzo2903 4 місяці тому +1

      I'm glad somebody else said it. Jimmy is a beast! SP is just plain amazing.

    • @christinelikeschrysanthemu9423
      @christinelikeschrysanthemu9423 4 місяці тому

      @@louiecmancuzo2903 I agree 1000% if that were possible. It's risky to bring SP up in this group tho, lol 😅One of my favorite live SP gigs was Pinkpop 1994 Silverfuck.... they have perfect overhead shots of Jimmy and they all just shred. It slows down halfway, have to catch the end 🤯. I love James Iha too, so creative.

  • @_ROBERT.
    @_ROBERT. 4 місяці тому +5

    Hetfield butchered would in my humble opinion 😅

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому +1

      That's what I thought, but some people liked it.

  • @buddingvenus8487
    @buddingvenus8487 4 місяці тому

    Wears AIC shirt. “Three legged dog album.” 🤣

  • @carlfolcojr.3497
    @carlfolcojr.3497 4 місяці тому

    Funny how AIC and Soundgarden sounded more alike compared to Nirvana. But the genre termed Grunge came out of Nirvana when they were trying to explain the sound that Nirvana was making at the time.

  • @shadcovert1160
    @shadcovert1160 4 місяці тому

    I like her!

  • @brandonelkin3166
    @brandonelkin3166 4 місяці тому

    The Tour AIC opened for Metallica AIC canceled cause of Laynes addiction and James started making fun of Layne and the crowd booed him and threw a shoe at James

  • @kj7303
    @kj7303 4 місяці тому +2

    Yeah they said the remaining members of nirvana would be working at McDonald’s and imitating shooting up making fun of Layne for missing shows again 🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @gathrightcrystal
      @gathrightcrystal 4 місяці тому

      That was actually true. When news broke David and people did Layne bad

  • @bryanriggin1917
    @bryanriggin1917 4 місяці тому

    Vic firth is the way to go ASF!!

  • @jessicahayden1415
    @jessicahayden1415 4 місяці тому +1

    Hetfield makes fun of Layne's H addiction

  • @hillary_was_here
    @hillary_was_here 2 місяці тому

    I always thought Hetfield was super jealous of AIC and especially Layne.

  • @saragil1036
    @saragil1036 3 місяці тому +1

    I Doo.Iove your list girl....mudhoney brilhante temple off yhe fog..THIS morning.. Pearl Jam ..ia One off yhe Manu concert s...I agrre whith your list

  • @josephwayne7424
    @josephwayne7424 4 місяці тому

    Danny Carey is arguably the best drummer.... but what about Jimmy Chamberlin?? He's a monster on the drums!! It's hard to pick the best drummer without being biased on choosing the drummer from the band you like the most.

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому +1

      Being a drummer myself, I judge drummers by whether I can play there stuff or not. I can duplicate anything Dave grohl has done but there's plenty of stuff by Danny and Jimmy that I can't do. Not well, anyways.

    • @josephwayne7424
      @josephwayne7424 4 місяці тому

      Oh yeah I understand what you mean I tend to do that with guitar players cus I play guitar.. Great content btw your like a detective keep up the good work brada 🤘🤘🤙

  • @michaelmay9059
    @michaelmay9059 4 місяці тому +1

    A car isn't an asset

    • @bookreaderson
      @bookreaderson 4 місяці тому +2

      A liability?

    • @AmericanSpyFox
      @AmericanSpyFox  4 місяці тому +3

      Depends on the car. A crappy car you owe money on is debt. A classic, mint condition car like the ones rock stars are known to purchase is an asset.

    • @legandrydirk
      @legandrydirk 4 місяці тому

      ​@@AmericanSpyFox Reading Space ships over Glasgow about Stuart Braithwaite the Mogwai guitarist he saw Nirvana in Glasgow and Edinburgh and at Reading its been decent so far
      Pretty nostalgic book paints the early nineties really well
      Unfortunately he went with the sucide narrative who knows maybe Courtney still has reach with some people he saw Hole to

    • @michaelmay9059
      @michaelmay9059 4 місяці тому +1

      @AmericanSpyFox you're correct. The more I think about it, it was asinine for me to make absolute statements about things that are conditional.

    • @Melinda_B62
      @Melinda_B62 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@AmericanSpyFox Where do Kurt’s ‘86 Volvo 240 & ‘65 Dodge Dart fit in - crappy or classic? 😁

  • @gathrightcrystal
    @gathrightcrystal 4 місяці тому

    Remember when grunge went grunge just not to be metal 😂

  • @kj7303
    @kj7303 4 місяці тому +2

    To bad Metallica made fun of Layne and Kurt 🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @p0ison_0ak33
    @p0ison_0ak33 4 місяці тому +2

    It's like six degrees of grunge separation...and when it comes to Metallica, I can deal with the band, as long as James is sober, and if Lars just doesn't talk😂 Trujillo and Hammett rule🤷‍♀️ they're talented af. Idk I feel like Lars is so mean to James sometimes 🙄 idk I feel like Metallica puts themselves on a pedestal and why do they charge so damn much for tickets??..🤷‍♀️ *insert clip of Kurt flabbergasted about people paying exuberant amounts for a ticket prices*😂😂😂

  • @avgrim7729
    @avgrim7729 4 місяці тому

    I used to love Metallica until they sold out!!!!!

  • @user-zh1qk2hi2w
    @user-zh1qk2hi2w 4 місяці тому

    I went to Seattle in 06 for that A. I. C. reunion/benefit show for the tsunami benefit. I met Jerry C. And Chris C.... Was amazing having Phil Anselmo, Wes Scantln and others. Sir mix Alot and Heart opened. As far as Kurdt goes He was the least amount of grunge out of all the bands. Yeah never mind and bleach was okay albums incesticide as well but in utero was amazing now that was grunge all the other stuff is just straight bubblegum pop. AIC and Soundgarden were the definition of the main acts. Best of all Mr Ed Vedder. By the way I had come all the way from Chicago to see that show

  • @Jordan-dk6qv
    @Jordan-dk6qv 4 місяці тому +1

    This guy thought fade to black was a aic song😂

  • @BarbaraT.
    @BarbaraT. 4 місяці тому

    Too right Metallica were ashamed of having inspired Linking Park. I don't live for Metallica but it's like comparing nutella to poo, you know?

  • @tempestblack3840
    @tempestblack3840 4 місяці тому

    Dave Grohl did state in an interview somewhere, years and years ago, that Taylor was a way better drummer than he is. I do think Dave’s style - his aggressive trashy punk energy - was a perfect match for Kurt’s songs though. Nirvana wasn’t truly Nirvana until he joined.

  • @grungegods
    @grungegods 4 місяці тому

    If layne was alive, jerry would be richer!! 😂 but they gotta be making good money on merch right?

  • @seahorserider
    @seahorserider 4 місяці тому +1

    When punk and hippie rock clashed it was the same crap, it's all music, get over it.

  • @jerrybergsteinbaum8008
    @jerrybergsteinbaum8008 4 місяці тому +2

    AIC WAS metal. On facelift its pure awesome 80s metal the scummy stuff that wasn't bullshit I mean..

  • @gathrightcrystal
    @gathrightcrystal 4 місяці тому

    Google. your cute 🍿