In the Room with Nirvana and Soundgarden: The Krist Novoselic, Kim Thayil and Jack Endino Interview
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2022
- Krist Novoselic (Nirvana) Kim Thayil (Soundgarden) and Jack Endino (Producer) reflect on the legacy and inception of the two most important bands of the ’90’s. From the practice rooms of the mid-80’s to the height of world fame in the ’90’s. The ups, downs and details. We also discuss their latest project 3rd Secret with features Matt Cameron (Drums), Jon "Bubba" Dupree (Guitar), Jennifer Johnson (Vocals), Jillian Raye (Vocals).
You can listen to 3rd Secret here: tinyurl.com/nn8at59f
Nirvana - Kurt Cobain (Vocals, Guitar), Krist Novoselic (Bass) & Dave Grohl (Drums)
Soundgarden - Chris Cornell (Vocals, Guitar), Kim Thayil (Guitar), Ben Shepherd (Bass), Matt Cameron (Drums) Hiro Yamamoto (Bass).
Jack Endino - Nirvana (Producer), Soundgarden (Producer), Skin Yard (Guitar, Producer, Engineering), Mudhoney (Producer, Engineering, Mixing), Screaming Trees (Producer), Hole (Producer), Green River (Producer)
I can see Krist being the guy that goes up to a kid wearing a Nirvana shirt and saying "hey man, nice shirt" and then just walk away.
Oh I. Thought it was Dr Phil
“hey man, nice shot”
I met him, Bud and Curt when they were touring as eyes adrift and Krist was very chill and seemed worried that no one was going to show up to the show. This was in OKC in 2002.
he seems like a really nice guy, he used to reply to fans on twitter, before he deleted the account
Jimmy Page did the same to a kid in a drugstore reading a Rolling Stone (or some music rag) article featuring him on the cover.
Rick, you're singlehandedly creating an archive that will be gold in future years. You've managed to get musicians who are famously difficult with interviewers to feel comfortable and open up. I mean Sting? Maynard? Kim Thayil? All we can do is thank you for what you're doing.
Thats cause Rick is LEGIT!
It’s already gold for me. I’m seventeen and I’ve been looking for more information about these bands for years.
@@Nictric1 dude I'm 40 and grew up with these bands. Interviews like this are few and far between. I clicked this vid instantly when I saw Krist was on.
@@robertsloan9746 Yes. A legit educator and all-around music fan. I fall down "Rick Beato Rabbit holes" all the time on UA-cam. Just a great, great channel. One day, I'd like to see Rick in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I'm not joking.
He could do another (or even a series) interview with Ron Carter, it would be awesome!
I've always felt like Krist doesn't really understand how great of a musician he is. Such a clever, groovy, iconoc bassist! He elevated any song Nirvana wrote.
Ofcourse he understands lol he's a musician
He is the best bassist ✌️
He never cared nobody in nirvana cared they just wanted to make music
@@peanutbutterisfu I didn't say "care" I said "understand". And I was talking in present tense.
Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. But that's the difference between the Jimmy Paige types and people from the underground. It's a different mindset, and nobody will ever understand it unless they're there. Everyone is so used to praising and idolizing musicians when they're just people.
“Chris [Cornell] wanted to try singing.”
That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long time 🤣
What a treat - thanx Rick! 👍
Imagine being in the room the first time you hear Chris on the headphones in that recording studio. I feel like I would have just passed out in astonishment. I mean, other than Layne, I don't know of a singer that has more raw natural vocal power. It's like Chris had to fight to hold back his real power or it would have taken over the entire sound like a James Brown demo from 1964.
"He's a TV addict."
I like how Krist talks about Kurt in the present tense.
I like to think kurt is out there somewhere ❤️
I like how Krist and Kim will be like: "Was that in '88 or '89?" and Jack Endino is like: "It was Christmas Eve of 1988, we recorded from noon until six. It was snowy. You were wearing tan chinos and deck shoes. We had to stop once because you broke a bass string. There was a stray cat hanging around outside and Kurt gave it the last of his tuna fish sandwich"...
I thought the same thing.
I’m a fuzzy memory person but my friend has super detailed photographic memory - people like this are gems.
He interrupted Krist way too much. yeah we know, he recorded Bleach and you’re in Skin Yard .. but we wanna hear more from Krist and Kim.
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That close up on Krist saying "it shouldn't had happen". Damn. This interview will stay forever in my collection. Thank you Rick.
1:16:34
That's the same answer in lots of his interviews:
"He should of never done that".
"It should of never happened."
2 this day, it's something U can feel in him that's deeply hurting.
Was thinking the same
Yes, that was hard to see.
@@DXVI9 should have. Should have. Not should of. Its should've not should'of
Jack Endino is a fucking national treasure. His contributions to heavy music would fill a phone book. And he seems like the chillest, most egoless individual. AND he’s wearing a Ptolemaic Terrascope tee-shirt which is just the biggest nerd-flex in history.
Krist Novoselic?!?! I thought Maynard was huge, in reality it was, but I don’t ever see Krist Novoselic doing interviews. Congrats Rick, you’re doing incredible things and have become an amazing interviewer.
Right he is flat out killin it ! Also 30 years ....why does it seem like only a few years maybe 10 at most .
Also a little jealous how Krist has managed to say so slim all these years! (Been getting a little plump lately, but what the hey...................)
I think Krist was just finally ready. That and knowing Rick is about music and not gossip led to it.
He was just interviewed with Dave and Steve Albini by Conan O'Brien but those types of interviews aren't really for musicians per se, it's always all the non music stuff, no talk of the music side of the music, production, mixing, gear, business, etc. That's where Beatos stuff is different.
Everytime Kris mentions Kurt in any interview his face lights up then suddenly turns solemn. You can see that Kurt truly is his brother. He was the guy that Kurt gave a demo to form Nirvana with after the Fecal Matter stint. His bass playing live is what made Nirvana sound so fucking tremendous along with Dave's drumming. RIP Kurt and Chris
100% It makes me choke up when I see him talk about Kurt.
Yes, in my opinion Krist’s bass is what makes Smells Like Teen Spirit so special
I think this is the most I’ve ever heard Kim Thayil talk. For 35 years he’s been this enigmatic wizard.
It's so cool listening to this and hearing him mention Hiro. I actually work, or worked with Hiro, he recently retired from our lab where he was our Chief Inorganics Chemist. Absolutely cool, friendly and wonderful guy. His last day was last Halloween and we all dressed up as 90s rock stars.
Awesome interview.
That’s amazing. I could never thank him enough for how much he influenced my bass playing and musical inspirations. I wish I could have the opportunity to tell that to him myself!
@@sambenjamin9636 That's awesome to hear. I don't talk to Hiro on the regular or anything as he retired a while ago. But if I can I'll let him know this comment from you is out there. 🙂
Omg he’s a chemist !? Sick I feel like a lot of ppl who enjoy punk rock/ rock are chemists for some reason
😂 almost sounds like a euphemism for drugs saying a rocker is a chemist, but there are actually alot of more hard rock/punk cats into science, Greg from Bad Religion comes to mind first. My main interests are biology, paleontology and music... nothing rocked harder than The Great Dying.
I wonder if that ever rubbed him wrong -- the dressing up as '90s rockers.
Like "just in case you forgot HOW CLOSE you were..."
I mean...if that were me, I would never quite get over it.
Hey, MTV, this is the kind of content a true “music television” channel should have. Rick, thank you so very much. Fantastic interview.
They're not a music channel and havent been for a very long time. You'd have to go back 20 years for your complaint to even be relevant, let it go.
if this was on MTV or any other TV channel for that matter they would cut this down to fit a schedule including commercial brakes. Here we get the entire thing and not something editied to fit a specific format.
Estas en lo cierto
I like the way you put that, and I completely agree!
MTV used to do stuff like this back in the day, plus play music videos most of the time, before they jumped on the reality TV and funny videos thing -- I really have no idea what happened to Mtv.
I love how Krist Novoselic looks like the neighbour you would borrow a lawnmower from. Much respect for that man.
He always struck me as the most relatable guy in Nirvana. Kurt was a prima donna and Dave was too cool for me to identify with him.
His comment at 1:10:00 about glancing into pawn shops to see if there were any left hand guitars for years after was heartbreaking.
Krist is a really great guy. I've hung out with him a few times and he's friendly, personable, and absolutely zero ego to be found. Same goes for Kim. Also a really solid dude.
I have a leftist friend who looks just like him. He`s one of the good leftists, like Krist.
He reminds me of Tony Levin - and also happens to be a bass player...
I remember seeing an interview with Krist a long time ago after Nirvana ended (RIP Kurt) where he commented on how so many young fans would approach him and thank him. When he would ask them “Why are you thanking me?” their responses were universal: “Because Nirvana saved my life”. In 1991, mine was a life on the brink. I was in a total free fall and was going to end up either dead or in prison. And then Nirvana came along. This rock band is the only reason why I have my life and freedom today. Thank you Kurt and Krist.
It's amazing how music can do that. It definitely heals.
This is gold. PURE GOLD. This is the type of conversation that I dreamed of hearing back in the mid-90's. What an amazing time to be alive. Thank you Rick.
0:00 The early years
16:50 Soundgarden gets signed
21:54 Nirvana’s songwriting process
32:49 Soundgarden’s songwriting process
47:52 Dave Grohl joins Nirvana
58:14 Soundgarden on tour
1:03:44 Smells Like Teen Spirit I
1:16:36 Black Hole Sun
1:25:41 Smells Like Teen Spirit II
1:28:09 Superunknown
1:34:30 Third Secret
Look at this mvp 👏🏻
56:35 Shoutout to the Tragically Hip
@Rick Beato please pin this
@@socialLjetlag Rick pinned his own comment.
If anyone is interested :)
25:10 Dive
27:41 On A Plain
39:20 Rusty Cage
1:28:48 My Wave
Krist's offhand comment about checking pawn shops for left handed guitars for years after Nirvana ended really hit hard.
Yeah, that was kinda sad. You can always tell how hard losing kurt was for him. I think its why he didnt try to do something like foo fighters. I dont think he could not look over every night without seeing kurt and have to feel that lose.
@@damiencross7334he did though, didn't he? I remember some project around 95 or 96 of his that kinda went nowhere. I think...
@ricotokyo i think it was like a little distraction, but he wasn't trying to be in another world famous band like foo fighters. He could have been in foo figthers. I just think nirvana took a lot outta him.
Gen X-er here. This was really touching in many spots. It nearly brought me to tears. I remember being young and competitive like these guys were back then, but I've grown along with them, and the love they have for each other and for their bandmates that have regrettably passed is so palpable. I'd give each of them a hug and a pat on the back and a beer if I could. They helped bring so much to so many, and bore so much of the pain we couldn't see that came along with it . They took the huge swings and hit them way out of the park. Love you guys!
This is an awesome comment.
57 year-old Gen X drummer here, and you have poignantly expressed exactly my feelings. Thank you, brother-
I’m 67, and you wrote my comment for me !!!!!!!❤😊
Guitarist turned to the Dark Side, bought me some synths and drum machines….
Fellow Gen Xer. Born 1969. We had the good times dude. I despair at the state of the world now.
@@rangerwhite5165 late 1968 here and yes this world is falling apart ..we had great dayz 4 sure ...🖤✌🇺🇸
I think this interview has a lot of hints as to why Kris doesn't do interviews very often. The way he talks about the period after Nevermind and checking pawn shops for left handed guitars really shows how personal all that was to him. That being said, I really loved Kris' reaction to listening to the songs and the way he was moving to them. You can definitely see his quirky somewhat playful personality that you would always see from him in live performances. He truly enjoyed the music they made.
I really enjoyed Kim's and Jack's parts of this interview as well, but it was great to get some insight into Kris Novoselic's mind and to see his reaction to the music.
*Krist
Sometimes in all the hype madness and talent, people forget this was his/their life..not just another "Mtv newsbreak"
25:29 I love how he puts on his iconic Nirvana bass-playing-face that he always used to do. I first noticed him doing that on the Unplugged lmao.
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This is absolutely legendary. Rick, you are now a legend too!
Rick has always been a Legend
This is TOP notch
& not just an interview, but a conversation sharing memories on the last influential bands of our Generation .
Chris Cornell & Kurt Cobain Singer / Songwriters ...
Kim & Kris reminiscing , complementing each other , is so fun to watch .
@@chickeastwater9883 Agreed. This turned out to be more than an interview. I think Christ and Kim, in particular, were talking as if they were hanging out with buddies on a Friday night, reminiscing about the good ole' days! Rick had to push a few times to keep it moving forward to different topics, it was really cool to hear these guys essentially "hanging out".
Honestly, I am floored.
@@marceror
I've seen Sound Garden,, a few times
Ive seen/ met Chris Cornell, many times
Starting with Euphoria Morning
1999 -
It was also good Interview ,,
Only touched on Kobain death very little & Zilch on Chris , this was completely about the music & scene
I wish Rick played ,, more of Black Hole Sun & SG
but.... otherwise
I like how Krist is the same after all of these years. He’s visibly aged but yeah he comes across as the same fun loving member of Nirvana that I remember seeing in all the earlier band interviews. Truly a golden soul!
Yes, I'm getting the same vibe. I mean to say I very much agree with You.
I kinda thought he lost his goofy spirit but now i know that this was around the band, hard to open up after the band ends like that, but he did it
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I hadn’t seen that side of him in a long time. Really cool to see.
He totally is! All three of these guys have been themselves forever. They are treasures.
@@baileycownley1868 Yes, goofy spirit. Great way to phrase it
Krist giving Kim a comforting slap on the back at the start of Black Hole Sun. You can feel the pain swimming just under the surface when these guys hear their friends singing and reaching out from the past.
Oh my gosh, where do I start.
Guy on the left recorded some of the biggest bands ever before they were famous, and all those bands rewrote music history and changed music for ever.
The guy in the middle was in a band whose singer was probably one of the greatest singers of all time.
The guy on the right was in nirvana, the band who took over the world and changed music forever.
Amazing seeing these guys together, what a great interview. Thank you.
Jack Endino has such a phenomenal speaking voice. I could listen to that guy read the phone book.
These two guys were part of maybe the two most important bands of the 90s and look at them! Humble and talking about music from their souls. This is gold.
I lived in Seattle in the '80s and was around some of these guys and the music scene back then. What struck me about this interview is that the way they talk around one another now is the way they always talked. It was a community of folks that then is subsequently identified by others as a "scene," but it's really just a local community network of artists (there were painters, photographers and many others that were also part of all this). Seattle has changed drastically in recent times - a gentrified sheen hangs over the air, like all the large cities - but these people are still there, still doing as they always did.
Same as Haight/Ashbury in the sixties. Got turned into a product & exploited by the music industry the same way, too.
I lived in LA in that period. The culture was pretentious with commercial hair bands and Van Halen clones. It was too stifling to create what happened in Seattle.
I lived there in the 2000s, and that is one thing I miss so dearly is the music scene. It wasn't the peak but I went to so many awesome shows and had so many awesome experiences. Even then the energy surrounding the music scene was something magical for lack of a better word. So much talent it's kind of insane.
Yes, you are complete right. Photographers, artists, local theatre. I grew up there in the 70s and 80s these guys and that music scene represent the culture of what I call “Old Seattle” (but applicable to most of W Washington)which was part of the music scene; earthy, reserved but caring, the humility, pragmatic , egalitarian values, loathing of fakery and pretentiousness. It has changed dramatically (RIP) since it became a “world class city”
In our system, everything than can become commodified will become commodified, including but not limited to our own humanity and emotions. Watch out for salesmen and business types.
Krist is so intelligent. love his sense of humor. sometimes he says things that are so dry, it’s easy to miss it in the moment.
Rick Beato is heading into next level. Music press take note…
Agree 100%
Nah. Stay away from music press Rick. They have their agenda
@@sebassanchezc-1379 I am saying to the music press to see that their way isn’t “the way”. When artists engage the music press it is often because they have to… Rick’s interviews are chalked full of musicians who want to.
He’s now become the ultimate collector of impeccable talent .. just absolutely iconic interviews
These interviews are mic drop/out of the park....
Rick you're rescuing the rock scene. As a 26-year-old guy and a Grunge lover, I greeeatly appreciate your work on this
Rock is dead, rock remains dead.
@@sethrichnietzsche mmm don't think so, just not as mainstream as before, but there's definitely very cool and good bands still alive
@@sethrichnietzsche Rock/metal is still alive 🤘🏽🤘🏽. It’s getting popular again!! DEAL WITH IT!!! 😤🤘🏽. In the underground AND the mainstream, tbh it never left. It just underground. The best genre ever!!
@@esoterica412 you got it
@@sethrichnietzsche as long as there are people who love it, it will always be alive.
This is so badass these guys were just regular dudes and they played hard and became the soundtrack to a generation.
When Rick put on `Smells Like Teen Spirit' at first the "spirit' in the room was rather joyous and maybe mixed with nostalgia, then you can see and feel it that there is so much mixed emotions from ALL of that history and loss and the absence of the man behind that mic. and the other old friend (Cornell) as well. It was rather somber and yet almost a necessary ice breaker of sorts to touch on that yet move on to all the great memories as well. I have no doubt that this conversation was therapeutic to everyone there.
This was also WAY better than any documentary or film in capturing that period when all these young guys were doing all this locally as a community with none of that LA or NY celebrity drama crap. I never really thought about that aspect before but it's true. These people really were like a massive extended family or village of musicians that were making the music they wanted to for themselves despite whatever the industry was looking for at the time. Even though I am from the area and their generation I wasn't really culturally aware of the local music scene at the time. So I didn't really discover these guys until the rest of the world did. I regret that. It would be wonderful to have memories of this scene from up close and personal in the moment before it all exploded into the mainstream. Well, at least I got to be alive during this period in history to experience all this from the `70s to now. I am very blessed.
For many years whenever i watch interviews with Krist talking about Kurt and Nirvana he usually always looked so sad and depressed (obviously) but this is the first time I’ve seen him happy. Especially when you would play those songs for him. You can just see him light up and that makes me so happy to see
YES! I commented above about this. I listened to this on a long drive and several times I thought I was listening to 25 year old Krist. I have not heard him act like this since nirvana.
Watching Krists face while Teen Spirit is being played you can see how proud he is of it and so humble….You can also see the emotions in both their eyes when Chris and Kurt vocals come in. ..2 down to earth legends missing their friends…
I guess time heals the pain somehow. If you watched his interview with Dave years ago, they both seem to remember happy times and funny moments in Nirvana.
We all gotta let the past go and move forward.
You interviewed Krist???? wha, and Kim was in the room too.....and Jack Endino??? Dude, you smashed that interview!! Fascinating!!
25:20 - Krist's mental recall on that murky verbalization at the beginning of Dive! We almost learn what the heck it is. That mysterious birthcry out of the primordial ooze of Dive
what a killer fkn' tune, dude
Rick's channel is literally music television and I love it. I would die to see Rick interview them Radiohead boys.
When Krist said "Should never happened" talking about what Kurt dealt at the time, it was a punch in the gut.
He’s basically said it before in interviews. If you watch him on Fallon, I think he says - “he shouldn’t have done that” - it’s like the language of a little kid trying to wrap around an act of enormous wrong doing.
@@maddymud Sure, I bet that for him was just a confused, chaotic moment of his life. It's easier afterward to rationalize, but in the moment I am sure it was hard to grasp and decide
If listening to the Nirvana story. STOPS someone from putting a Needle in their arm. Worth it all
@Trinity M I get what you’re saying but the medical system can’t fail a person if the person isn’t willing to take said care. He was in care multiple times & usually absconded from care
Nirvana and Soundgarden have and will always be two of my favourite bands, so to see this video and hear them discuss things that I've never heard them talk about before was truly awesome.
OK, there is absolutely no reason why there shouldn’t be like five more hours to this presentation. I could listen to these guys talk and tell stories stories for days and days. Absolute gold.
Watch any interview of Krist over the years and try to find him acting differently...
You won't, the man just seems a genuine down to earth guy. After all these years he's the same guy. What a man!
Same with Kim, he seems like a dude genuinely unchanged by success.
True. I am amazed by this. His sense of humor has been so consistent.
Just a wacky guy with a goofy sense of humour. Love it! 😁
He's actually very witty.
Wow, Kim seems like he’s such a sincere and genuine human being.
He is, he leaned over the stage to give me a thumb's up after I was thrown over the security barrier
I read an interview with him many years ago when Soundgarden were reforming.
The interviewer said something like, "don't you like the fame, though?"
He said something like, "F the fame. I'll take the money anytime, but I hate the fame." 😆👍
@@tobiashoyden2644 Ha cool
They all are genuine. Its a huge part of the musical style they all helped cultivate
@@tobiashoyden2644 That's how people from Kerala roll!
People like Jack are unsung heros... we praise "rock stars" be it's people like him who really made this happen. Thank you for the peak behind the curtain and giving real heroes their do.
0:40:01 Oh man... the look on Kim's face listening to Chris singing. You can see the pain. In that moment Chris is alive and eternal, for all of us... and yet it is bittersweet because we know he's not here.
R.I.P. Chris Cornell, no one sings like you anymore. ❤️
I’m sure krist and Kim share a bond as both of their best friends/frontmen committed suicide. Rip to Kurt and Chris.
I am not a singer, except when soundgarden is playing. Then I sing my heart out and hope Chris can hear it, and know that his voice was a treasure to so many people.
I was thinking the same thing . Kim looked sad when Chris was singing also Kim seems like the sweetest guy. I had no idea. I knew he was real and sarcastic to posers but I'm so happy to see how sweet if a guy he seems
I could listen to these guys for hundreds of hours. That scene where Krist is patting Kim on the back for Black Hole Sun... I really teared up. I love them.
Right on. I felt the same way. I remember seeing Nirvana playing in Montreal in early ‘94. Also hearing Black Hole Sun first time at the Sit and Spin laundromat in Seattle.
Genuine respect between legends.
I'm a 73 year old Seattle boy,and I was right there with ya .There is a definite Seattle style coolness about these guys,makes me feel GOOD!
Me too. So amazing.
@@dinosaursr OMG I remember the Sit and Spin laundromat and the Elephant Super Car Wash. Such a good time back then. Also , the pat on the back got me too.
Krist is very humble. Nirvana bass lines are very interesting and creative. I was very impressed when I tried to learn several Nirvana songs. I think he deserves a bass deep dive by Rick ☀️
Lounge Act's bassline is INCREDIBLE. Krist is so underrated.
Well, kurt actually wrote most of the bass riffs in nirvana...
@@ouhyjevha That would make sense. Kurt was a melodic genius.
Seriously? You guys must be bad at playing bass.
@@mrsleep0000 Seriously? You must be bad at understanding music.
Also HUGE thanks Krist for mentioning The Tragically Hip. It is a huge thing for Hip/Nirvana fans to know that they shared a stage at one time in the early life of both bands and it's really, really great to hear him mention it unprompted just as a part of the Butch Vig/Smart Studios adventure. I know you'll never see this but Krist, you're the fucking best and this is a killer interview for old folks like me to hear from all 3 of you in a real nice casual but still serious way if that makes sense. Great job Rick, you're very good about letting the subjects of your interviews speak if they're on a roll while still steering the conversation well.
All these years later, I still get chills when I hear the beginning of Black Hole Sun. The best grunge song I tro of all time.
Krist loves his friends - every time a name is mentioned his face shows his emotion - Andy Wood, Chris Cornell, Kurt Cobain - at every mention of their names, you can see his reflection on each friend. This interview was a human and spiritual experience - one of your best ever Rick! Great work!
His face is like an open book. Such a genuine guy and very funny too.
Krist literally seems like he's wearing an incredibly good old man costume. His voice and mannerisms are so young
He looks like a dentist that tells dad jokes.
Again, is himself again
Yeah
Dr phil
He’s accepted his age, not dying his hair or wearing a wig.
Nice work, Rick! I was a Seattle native, during this period. My band shared a practice room with Alice in Chains, at a place called "The Music Bank", in Ballard, a suburb of Seattle. It was such a trip down memory lane, to hear these guys again. I remember it all! Thank you, for this. I was never a rock star but I was part of something incredible. It was cool to remember how special it all was.
Really cool that you were there in the mix. Do you have any great stories.
Did you meet Layne Stahley?
You have a rock star name as well 😂
Wait.........................so THAT'S where they got the name for their box set! Thought it was just a random phrase they thought of.
I feel that Kim went under the radar of what people consider the great guitar legends. Just came here to say thank you for the music. You're one of my greats. 🤘
Same as Robert Plant and Chris Cornell. Soooooo underrated.
@@DaveTaste Robert Plant and Chris Cornell aren't underrated!! lol
These two are deem among the top greatest vocalists of all time. I mean ALL TIME!!
And you are saying they are underrated?? HOW??
My ONLY complaint is that this interview was not 4 hours long. Literally got misty eyed listening to these guys go so in depth on songs that shaped my youth. You are a fucking LEGEND RICK! Thank you for these 🤘🏽🔥🙏🏼
'90s grunge, meloncholy garbage...GMAFB!
@@ALLMUTANTER huh?
@@ALLMUTANTERtake your meds bro
Only 10mins in, but I know where my next hour and a half will be spent. How epic is this? What continues to amaze me is how relaxed and candid EVERYONE you interview is. You’ve shown your chops and earned the trust my brother, and the payoff is incredible. Thank you, Rick.
25:34. Thayil's smile is worth a thousand words.
This is how real artists used to be, genuine, down to earth people even though they were true geniuses.
It is incredible, absolutely incredible
I'm with you
I mean it s so beautiful , soul healing sound..it is not like they stole and tortured a human being for fame...
I love these origin stories. I’m a few years younger than these guys but in the late 80’s, early 90’s, every sizable town had a music scene like this. Playing in 3 different bands, starving, couch surfing and putting everything on the line to “make it”. My scene was Denver.
It’s no wonder that music exploded with so many incredible bands in the 90’s. People got fed up with pop and hair metal and Seattle led the way out of that.
I’m still playing and became a touring drummer, but those days were the best of my life.
Beyond Kurt and Dave's undeniable talents, it's my belief that Krist is the unsung hero of Nirvana’s sound and memorable stage presence.
DEFINITELY the glue.i can see him cooling Kurt off.
Love how Rick doesn’t constantly barge in on the interesting conversations these guys have and just lets them talk, unlike a lot of other interviewers.
I don’t know anyone of these people personally but God, Rick makes it easy to feel like we could belong in that interview. Thank you.
You've never heard of Nirvana or Soundgarden???? 😳😳😳😳
@@spooky131 Um...he didn't say he didn't know OF them, or that he'd never heard of them. He said he didn't know them PERSONALLY...and neither do you, most likely.
@@errbt you don't know that.
@@spooky131 What I do know is that you apparently lack basic reading comprehension. You tried to shame someone because you misread what they said and thought it meant that they'd never heard of either band. So your whole problem starts there. I simply added that last line to hammer it home that almost no one in the world actually knows any famous musicians on a personal level, so you likely don't either. Even if it turns out that you DO, it doesn't change the fact that you misunderstood Victor Miranda's initial post on a fundamental level.
@@errbt Jesus you sound like pc principal. Lighten up guy. No one needs your defense.
Rick, I am really glad I watched this. I live in Tacoma and just started learning how to play the guitar. I moved my family up to Tacoma in 93 and have been here ever since. I love Tacoma we moved up here for swimming, because my oldest son was a national raked swimmer. I did not realize how much Tacoma was in Nirvana or I should say influenced this area. I really want to let you know how much this meant to me because I have been such a fan of both groups. and even more now that I understand more about music and music theory and learning cord progressions and how to build them. And in closing just want to let you know how much you have helped me, I so wish I would of started earlier in life, but at 73 I will use the remaining part of my life to learn more . All I can say is thank you.
can you please find the barn Nirvana played in Tacoma! Take a picture!
I graduated HS in ‘90. Nirvana, Soundgarden, AIC, Pearl Jam were the soundtrack of my youth. As a music fan we were blessed. When I look at the influence they had on me it’s immeasurable. I felt the loss when Kurt, Layne, and Chris passed. Terrific interview, these guys are just so genuine.
Same. We were incredibly lucky.
People don’t realize how much of an impact Kim had on the 90’s “grundge” scene. Drop D was a hugeee reason it was so special. Kim is such a vast ocean of history. Wonderful guy, and amazing musician.
Open tunes in general, that was also Kim for the most parts. The different tempos were most due to Chris and Matt and Ben !!
I think I remember reading that Kim said Buzz from the Melvins taught him the Drop D tuning.
King Buzzo showed drop D to Kim
Soundgarden used a bunch of other more interesting tunings too.
CGDGBE and more.
They do realise. Kim was in Soundgarden and Soundgarden were the first to sign to a label. Kim had something to do with that no doubt.
Buzz Osborne shown Kim drop D (and Adam Jones).
You can't even spell grunge mate.
It was so funny seeing Rick's face as Kim talks about how they almost kept possibly the greatest rock singer of all time behind the drums. Also, was there no end to the talents of Chris Cornell?
Amazing to think Chris Cornell is in your band and you are looking for a singer!
Chris was a talent unmatched!!!
So many drummers think they can sing..but damn if Chris wasn't a born with a gift of vocal range.
I felt bad about his album Scream though. He wasn't meant to be a pop singer.
@@posysdogovych2065 All the greats are allowed a dud album and generally do have at least one
I've watched hundreds of rock and music documentaries histories and interviews and stories if not thousands..this is one of my favorites I've ever seen .. hearing these stories right from the guys along w the producers experience parallel to it is a very dynamic aspect of this that really tells a larger story of a bigger picture.. absolutely fantastic work my friend 👊i grew up watching all of them and idolize both bands to this day...bands so great they changed the culture along with the music 🎶
As a drummer of a teenage rockband, trying to get signed, the comment, "Kurt scrubbed toilets to record that demo" hit home. The love musicians have for their art is priceless. That's dedication.
Listening to this interview and reminiscing 40 years later as a fan I'm so appreciative to have them tell their stories.
I love how the interview opens up about 25 minutes in. The initial awkwardness drops away and it's as close as we'll ever get to riffing about old times with legends at the pub. You handled it really well and coaxed everyone out of their shell. This must have been such a blast to do. I'm so pleased for you - and thank you!
That's when they stop talking about themselves and start talking about making music.
I credit Krist Novoselic for breaking the ice. He kind of knew what people (eve Rick!) wanted to talk about
Many Seattle musicians were customers of ours back then. Cornell, Novoselic, Abbruzzese, Matt Cameron and others. One common trait in every Seattle band was putting the music first. They were all stunned by their success. So many great people and bands playing every night back then. 👏🏻👏🏻
And that for me is the difference, they didn't want to be huge massive rock starts, obviously they wanted notoriety and money, but it was about the message and songs and music first. I try to tell people this...Also iconic singers, I honestly cannot remember the names of any current metal nu metal, whatever bands...they aren't nor will be iconic like that era...and before.
@@ricardomartinezxx Man...Staley, Cornell, Wood, Vedder, Lanegan, the list keeps going. Truly special time for music.
Such a great interview. First CD I ever bought Was Nirvana nevermind. And being a teenager in the 90s all these bands are what I know from my childhood and teenage years and I love all of them. Killer interviews
Learning Soundgarden songs, and I can attest they are definitely more difficult & complex than they sound.
Seconded
I have to point out how sound pleasant is to hear Jack speaking. The timbre of his voice and clean pronunciation is just delightful. I am not an English native speaker, but I can appreciate the music of his speech, if it makes sense what I am trying to say.
I agree, Jose. His tone of voice and speech pattern is very pleasant. He’s very articulate and he has a rich timbre.
"I have to point out how sound pleasant is to hear Jack speaking" One might say it so pleasant, it might sound like a garden....
“Appreciate the music of his speech.” Wow, for somebody who learned English as a second language, you have such a command over it! That was a lovely way to word that.
Agreed. In another life he would have been a famous radio host, with that gorgeous voice.
@@Cegros You just made me blush! ☺️
I found this interview quite moving as a massive Soundgarden fan particularly and a teenager of the 90s. Rick has a perfect interviewing style which disarms his guests. They trust him. They know he's a good faith actor and has great knowledge and appreciation of music in general.
It was humbling to hear two legends talking about their bands and origins like you might hear one of your mates chatting about their band back in the day. The main difference is their two bands became Soundgarden and Nirvana. Both Krist and Kim have now both lost their lead singer and good friend to suicide. You could sense their shared history and I'd say the loss of both Chris and Kurt has gilded their friendship even more. The moment when Krist patted Kim on the back when the opening chords of Black Hole Sun came on was just beautiful. Their mutual respect and love was really clear. Rick thank you for doing what you are doing. These legends clearly respect you as does everyone on this channel. 👏
Thank you for articulating my exact thoughts. Beautiful interaction between Krist and Kim.
Well said... and thx Rick it's an awesome interview
Well stated; completely agree 👍🏼
That look Kim gives Jack at the very end too, when Rick talks about their long friendship...
This!
It was really nice to hear Faith No More getting major props. Literally a week ago I had Angel Dust full album pop up and I listened to the entire thing three times. Music from this time period is just on a different level. Impossible to explain unless you were there.
Well... I was a teenager at the time, and what I learned from grunge was that developing your own voice, working within your local community is critical to having a fulfilling experience with music. You have a a unique idea, and you find a way to make it work on your own terms. It annoys me that the musicians bring up all these great local characters and Rick interrupts to bring it back to these music business pro type Q&A things. No man Mudhoney, Tad all those people and dingy little places they bring up, that's what makes it great. That's what made Pacific Northwest music 90s experience great. I'm a Portland guy and we had FLOATER that put out a couple records that stand toe to toe with anything these guys did.
@@Napalm6b interesting to hear someone come away from this interview thinking Rick did poorly. The things you brought up I think are the exact things Rick celebrates as well. But it’s been awhile since I watched it. Maybe I’m seeing what you noticed as more him being a music nerd. Now I’m no musician but I think their might be a way Rick might miss the kinds of things you mentioned by thinking the music nerd question and nuance is the same when maybe it isn’t so much. Just a guess.
Angel Dust is probably one of my top 10 favorite albums. It's a freaking masterpiece!
@@Napalm6bIt's still an interview with a time limit and a format. He as the interviewer is there to keep it on track. As you may have noticed it can be easy for folks to get lost in the memories and go off course. If this was a bunch of dudes chilling, drinking beers, they could all go on for hours about whatever came up but it's an interview so there has to be some structure.
@Tiffany-Rose yep. Angel Dust is in my top 10 as well!
The pride and nostalgia on Krist’s face during Smells like Teen Spirit. 01:04:20 priceless.
looks like he could shed a tear during the prechorus
Krist is so right when he says these songs had a profound impact on us for the rest of our lives, I don't think there's been 1 single day where I haven't thought about Kurt or have a nirvana song in my head, even if it's only a few seconds a day. It's really amazing
No one will read this, but I'm just dropping in to say how excellent this interview/chat session was. Super interesting and and everyone seemed SO relaxed and into it, unlike so many other interviews. Major kudos to Rick, Kim, Krist and Jack.
I read it.
@@Otisthelesser Haha! Thank you!
You're awesome!
I read it too.
I read it. Cheers from Colombia
Rick, you are a legend. Very happy you get to sit down with musicians of this magnitude and share stories and ideas!
Kim Thayil is such a great story teller
Man, Krist looks like the sweetest grandpa. Yet he carries with him the wildest stories and history itself! Amazing guys. Thank you do much for these interviews, Rick!
I love that man so much
I love how Krist just takes over the interview when he feels like it. In a good way.
Wow, this is intense. Imagine Kurt and Chris sitting there...
So nice to see Krist smiling again. Nirvana and Soundgarden were the biggest musical impacts for me as a young teen and the reason for becoming a musician myself. Great interview!!
SAME
What a treasure of an interview. Would love to just hear the stories from these guys all day long. The influence musically they have and this was an awesome interview.
Man, 1:16:56 just hits you different... than acknowledgement and understanding between Krist and Kim, plus my own nostalgia and feelings bout this time and this song... thank you!
I'm gonna cry. Soundgarden and Nirvana were basically my two favorite bands from when I was a teenager. I have so many memories attached to their songs. Songs are containers for our memories and a lot of memories are getting opened up for me right now.
A lot of us kids of the 90's feel exactly the same way.
What I would give to go back to those days!
And not only in the US....those days were magic...
Totally agree, being of a certain vintage... 🎸
Maaan the one-string guitar story told by Kim about Black hole sun's intro just gave me chills... It's incredible how things were actually done to think that it was because they couldn't play guitar with slide hahaha man it just makes it even greater. Complete genius events
Haha, man... so many great stories about what goes on in studios. Which is to say, anything. You either got it, or you didn't. How you got there doesn't matter at all. :-D I love it.
@@nickwallette6201 agree lml
As a 23 year old grungehead these guys are my heros, underrated musicians. Thank you so much for this Mr. Beato!
I was born a bit too late to experience grunge first hand, but when I discovered the bands in 98 (I was 13 back then), their music changed my life. I wanted to become a singer, a musician. Kurt was my first real idol, but I also loved all the other bands. Especially "In utero" had such a lasting impact on me. It was the first noise rock album I ever heard and I immediately fell in love with the amazing drum sound and the heavily distorted guitars. I'm not a nostalgic person and I do like modern music (especially electronic stuff), but I kinda miss rock music as a cultural factor. Maybe it's just not the right time for rock, I hope it will come back in a new, reimagined form. Just like the Seattle scene reimagined rock music back then.
Rockin the APC hat! Perfect tie in to the previous interview. You're really killing it lately Rick!!!! That Maynard interview might have been the most divulgent I've ever seen him. He must respect you! 😂
Agreed. There are very few interviews where MJK is that at ease and interested in talking.
@@CFCMahomet Yes it was dope! I think because Beato traveled to Keenan and met him in his space it freed Keenan up to be more open. It was on his turf.
@@kylereilly3259 agreed. I do think it was also Rick‘s willingness to spend lots of time talking about Puscifer and a perfect Circle, whereas most media wants to talk with MJK about TOOL, which I think from his perspective may be his least satisfying creative experience these days. When the topic comes up he routinely discusses the difficulties of process (not outcome or material) of working with the rest of the guys in TOOL.
Man seeing these guys is letting me realize how old I am. I’m 50 and really loved the grunge and Seattle bands, back then and still do!
Sigh... Me too. 😟
Yep but at least we were there and lived it , good times , god I’m getting old lol
51 - same. Saw all those bands multiple times. There was an astonishing amount of good bands through the 90s and across all genres.
Just a bit younger and yeah, this is my youth in this interview & it now seems so long ago.
I love the look on Rick's face as he's hearing these guys articulate how the last, great rock music movement occurred from the architects that constructed it. It's the same look I have on my face right now. Total enchantment. Thank you Rick for everything you do for rock music.
In the 90's, this holy union of Nirvana // Soundgarden would break the news and charts.
Seeing the pain in Krist's eyes really hit me hard. You can tell how much he's struggling with the mix of emotions from that time.
It's so weird to think that Chris Cornell just started off as "hey the drummer wants to try to sing some songs" and turns out to be one of the greatest rock vocalists of all time...
Replace “Chris Cornell” with “Dave Grohl” in that sentence and it’s true too.
Apparently played his first few gigs with his back to the audience as well.
And Layne Staley, sold his drum kit and bought a mic
It actually makes sense. Drummers have rhythm, groove and clear counts. Singers work in the same dimension. Phil Collins is probably the ultimate example of this principle.
I'm sad that he got trapped by a gilded cage.
EX
sometimes ya get TIRED of being "CHris Cornell" or "Taylor Swift" and ya wanna escape that.
Someone should've asked Cornell to be the drummer in the band after SG broke up!
Same with Johnny Carson and many others. (JC was a great jazz drummer, but no one knew or cared cuz they only wanted Talk Show Host JC.)
"It wasn't just hypnotic, it was hypnotic and visceral" Wow Kim articulated a feeling I couldn't put words to before
Best interview I've seen in years. Also, the 3rd Secret album is freaking amazing. Easily my favorite album of the year
The interview I always dreamed of.... The moment when Krist puts his hand on Kim's shoulder when they begin to talk about Black Hole Sun showing respect ... Goosebumps!
Thank you Rick!!!!
Yeah, that was a nice moment!
That got me all emotional haha! For real.
There was so much in that moment: nostalgia, melancholy, Chris is gone, your big hit, our shared losses, we’re old friends. It made me tear up a bit.
I absolutely love Krist, he seems so real and genuine and whenever he talks about Kurt it seems to cut to his heart. I don't think he was ever the same after Kurt died. They were so incredibly close from High School on and it's so sad he lost his best friend to something Krist could never help Kurt with, he was lost way to early, his life was just starting.
He couldn’t save Kurt from Courtney Love, he could only show his distrust (he protested the wedding).
I just wish Dave was there for him.
I wish we were all there for him.
Yeah and 23:47 you see him wiping a tear after talking about kurt
@@sigsin1 As far as I know, Courtney saved Kurt three times from having a lethal overdose.
@@hom0s4cer 🤣🤣 no, she didn't. Someone came in while Kurt was passed out in Rome and Courtney was just sitting there. She then, sprang into action. Courtney said Kurt took 60 rohypnol. The Dr said Kurt had no more than 6 in his stomach, not 60.
Watching Kim nod his head to Dive like it's the first time he heard it...guy is a total legend, man
It is incredible to me how humble all of these guys are. Thank you for giving us this platform, Rick! It was great getting to hear from all of them.
Soundgarden’s music timing always intrigued me and made them stand apart from other Grunge era bands. After hearing that Cornell was a drummer who loved odd time signatures, it makes sense why they would write such complex songs. The rhythm section wrote the songs. Great and insightful interview, Rick. That was great when they start playing Black Hole Sun, Kim looked like he was about to cry upon hearing his old dead friend, then Krist gives him a back slap and rub like he was telling him that only he knew how he felt and he was okay. Heavy.
Krist and Kim seem to be amazingly well adjusted human beings. Just great guys.
🤘
they have a great chemistry.
Great interview. I was attending the Art Institute of Seattle in 92-94 and our group ran into these guys all the time in Bell Town, Pioneer Square and at Candle Box. What a great time to be in Seattle. Thank you
Yes, I remember these clubs , also the famous The Crocodile in Belltown and the Showbox by Pike , etc , great memories , Feliz Navidad ! from The Gulf Of California ,Mexico
So good... incredible conversation! Thank you!