Vic is the perfect tester for durability , I hope he gets a 2022 Tundra , the fact that he slept in it adds another dimension .. very few truck owners put a truck to the test like Vic. Super interview Tim
I purchased an 07 SR5 new off the lot. Best 34k I ever spent. It has 282k still runs great. Everything works, nothing is ripped, broken.. I do all my own maintenance.
I have a 03 Dodge Hemi with 270,XXX miles on it oringinal motor, trans. And its been towing a 7k lb. Travel trailer for the last 3 yrs, all across the US. And i do my own maintance on it and i think that's the key,,, we do our own maintance on it. 👍
This guy is the main reason I had to get a Tundra. The engineering. I feel like if I were to be in his position I would do the same things. I love that the standards are high cause they should be! Also, you can tell Mike authentically cares about creating a high quality long lasting vehicle. I could have gone another 45 mins here.
Well, Stephen Provost was the Senior Engineer of the Second Generation Tundra, not Mike. Mike was in charge to cut 40 percent of the cost, because Toyota thought Stephen over engineered it , and Toyota was bitter it didn’t sell in bigger numbers, and why it took too long to redesign it. Mike himself said this new Tundra wasn’t the direction he wanted, but made the most of the Landcruiser platform, and cut costs to make a new Tundra happen.
I can guarantee you the payload of the Tundra is under rated after seeing Vic and what he hauls. To do that for 1 million miles and not have suspension, frame or axle issues...definitely under rated.
My 2010 Tundra developed bed rot the started from below the bed. I assume the sealant was squished from between the bed and frame. Up here in New England we use a lot of road salt. Add the wet road salt to a new cavity now for it to fester and there you go.
I bought my first Tundra from same dealership as the million mile truck..Ive always heard about Toyota getting it back and tearing it apart to learn from it. Glad i can now see it come full circle.
When Toyota bought Vic's Tundra they gave him another one this time with the 5.7 V8, and I saw on another video he's already up to 750,000 miles and going for a million again. Toyota's aren't perfect but dam they are impressive.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks Tim I would love to see that video and please have him elaborate on OCI, transmission intervals, Diff and transfer case intervals & type of driving ...(was it mostly towing/payload carrying etc...) & How much Idling he did in the vehicle.
Was reading posts on a 2022 Tundra forum recently, and a high-level Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician (of 30 years) said this new Tundra has him worried about the truck's marginal quality. He also stated that he talks to a lot of the "higher-ups" at Toyota, including Field Technical Specialists and Engineers, and there is a lot of talk within Toyota's inner-circle about problems with the '22 Tundra.
I just bought a 2018. When at the dealership they kept trying to push me into a new one. I told the sales manager, “Y’all haven’t figured that engine out, yet.” And he(the sales manager of a large DFW Toyota dealership) responded with, “I won’t argue with you there.” I couldn’t believe it. No one at Toyota likes the new Tundra, especially the engine.
Thanks Tim for doing this type of video. To the marketing team at Toyota, we need this type of information and comparisons to make our buying decisions. Wether it’s in advertisements or YT videos I would like to see more of the reasons to choose this new Tundra. Thanks again for getting with Mike on this.
Always great the hear Engineer Mike talk about 3rd gen upgrades. Makes me appreciate my 2022 a bit more as I’m coming from 2000 Tacoma to 2022 Tundra, never had the 2nd gen V8
I purchased a 2016 SR5 4x4 in 2018. Paid it off last year. Has 139k on it. Never an issue. I drive to Colorado every year from South Florida and take it Elk Hunting on some very hard Jeep trails. I added Bilstein shocks, 4" lift, custom bumpers, a W 8:128:15 arn 12K lb winch and 35" tires to it. I have changed fluids on schedule and use the best available. It will last through retirement.
Great video, Tim! I always enjoy these Mike Sweers episodes. Heck, any lead engineer on your channel is always informative. It's nice to know where they're coming from when designing a truck. Vic is about to have another million mile Tundra. Probably sometime this year. I saw his odometer on another channel. My goodness, that guy can put on the miles!!!
Love this video! I’m a women who grew up with a mechanic brother. He raced and I was his pit crew. I built a classic show truck of my own . I totally understand everything he is talking about. The quality of his engineering makes me feel confident in my purchases from Toyota. I loved my composite bed in my 2007 Tacoma and I abused it with garden materials car parts etc. Only drawback it is slick as snot. A bed pad solved that. I sold my Tacoma in 2020 with a 140k miles on it with only a front wheel baring replaced. I now own a 2020 Tundra and will most likely wait a couple years and get the new model. Although I love my 2020.
This is the reason why I purchased a 2021 Toyota Tundra TRD PRO and was lucky enough to get it in Lunar color, before they discontinued the V8. Really love it and hope to keep it for the rest of my life, I’m only 35 years old, I bet it can out last me!!!.
hat is a nice truck but honestly it is going to cost you tens of thousands of dollars in fuel. I had a 2020 and loved it but I was getting 11-12 mpg around town. I love V8's but the cost to drive them is getting insane.
There's 5.7 Tundras with million miles as well. 2nd gen are very reliable. Look at Blaine Johnsons million mile 5.7 Tundra. Toyota please put front end of Sequoia on the Tundra. Looks way better.
Interesting. I currently own a 1st gen 4.7 V8. I had no doubt the 5.7 would be just as reliable. My next Tundra ( not for a long while) will be 2nd gen. Unless Uncle Joe and the EPA gouge them out of existence lol.
You have to respect the customer appreciation and positive feedback loop that Toyota learns from. Hopefully the new generation can get to that 7th digit💪
Especially when you compare it to Ram. I have 2 friends amd a coworker who had Rams and on all 3 of them the drivers seat side bolster was destroyed and down to the metal! Not sure how the new rams seats hold up but this was back in 2017 and two of the trucks were about 3-4 years old. The other was a little newer and this was in 2019.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix RAM has the highest quality interiors in their upper trims on the market. That to me is where their standard begins and ends because every other part of the truck falls apart as it goes past 100k. The 5.7 is pretty tough although it hasn't been updated in a while. Their top end interiors are best in class. Do they hold up? 🤷🏽♂️ Idk
Toyota has first rate suppliers who have been constantly improving themselves with Toyota biting at their heels for years...that's how you put out a quality product. I have a 2005 Camry with leather seats, not a single rip or tear and its padded and firm. Best seats.
@@eriknash8783to be fair the issues with the engine today are more the fault of manufacturing defects as opposed to how the truck was designed and engineered, which still holds true to what they are saying in the video
One of the trucks I own is a 2007 DC 4.7 engine with bench seat with 250k miles. I agree the seats are still iin good condition the only things that have failed is some door behind the dash that allows air to go from vents to defrost and the alternator at 200k miles. The most trouble free vehicle I have ever had
Those are great models. I had a 2001 that I wish I never parted with. Only problem I had was the breather valve on the rear differential. I needed to replace it because I drove through shallow rivers and streams while trout fishing and the water level would reach it. Only a $7 part.
FWIW... these are the interviews that I can sit and listen to for hours. Maybe some footage of the material testing & failure analysis if it's not too proprietary. Instills confidence in owners when they're out there about to do something "semi-sketchy".👍
Thanks Tim for the video, lets not forget, that these million miles Tundras were designed and lunched by the engineers before mike Sweers. Mike did not do anything to improve the Tundra, which was 2008 Motor Trend truck of the year. In fact, he removed practical and functional features, like grab handle, transmission cooler, etc. Funny that he mention "torque is king", and developed the Tacoma 3rd gen. that is gutless.
Your response is perfect. Mike Sweers was a Chrysler Engineer and has destroyed Toyota truck quality. The Redesigns are done to lower their cost and increase yours over time. Glad that their is another educated viewer.
Too reliable goes against the numbers. Disposable vehicles are what they are aiming for. Obviously they would be made of cardboard by then. Wait. 70 s cars rusted and cardboard was still used up till the 90s. They know how and what to make cheap for it to last at least 5 years and FEEL good to touch. They been putting weights in door handles for over 20 years
@@ICU81269 Thank you, and for the ones that don't know. Yuichiro Obu was the chief engineer for 2007 Tundra. In July 2010, Sweers became the chief engineer for the Toyota Tundra followed by chief engineer of the Toyota Tacoma in April 2012.
Wouldn't call it gutless, but anyone like Vic will never get that durability again. Pulling heavy will heat those turbos and substantially reduce longevity. Bed is 2" shorter, less volume less weight. Every manufacturer is doing similar shenanigans
The fact that Toyota acknowledged its own design failures in the past tundra and corrected it for future tundras says so much about them as a brand. No other vehicle manufacture would ever do that, so much respect for Toyota after this video.
As a former skilled trades contractor who spent time in various domestic plants throughout Michigan, General Motors specifically, I strictly forbid my family from EVER driving ANY domestic vehicle ! If it’s not engineered in 🇯🇵 Japan it will not sit in my garage !
@@johnberry2877 lol my parents drove GM and Chrysler all my life and had nothing but problems. I think I was 14 when I told them to get a toyota, they have never looked back
Well done and thank you Tim and Mike! Best video to-date on the 22 Tundra mechanical specs, materials, etc. and the lessons learned that have been applied from previous generations. I and maybe other subscribers here would love to see a similar report out on the TECHNOLOGY changes applied to this gen truck from lessons learned? What or how have new technology changes been applied to make the Tundra an improved and better truck? Thanks again!
My experience is a little different mostly with the front seat. 2010 Tundra 4.6 extracab ⁶speed with tow-hall has been with me since 2008 (cash for clunkers cleared out 09 stock, only thing left was the next year's models). Besides the wheel wells my truck bed has seen more damage. And I drive it hard, really hard the first 5 years 40,000 miles a year with lots of cubicle furniture loads or tools and some towing. With what I just saw, engineers didn't take into account the lower bed section reinforcement. I push pallets till the truck bed stops it. I have had (7 HM Ethospace larger wall mount work stations with ² drawer lateral files and peds) 4- dbl stacked 42"d × 48"w loaded pallets and like a 60" wide pallet on the tailgate and that last pallet was hanging off the edge. So the bottom of bed front is bent towards the body. Now with heavy loads I can hear a slight tapping of the bed hitting the cab. I couldn't sleep in the driver side, I had to use passenger side. My driver seat has the same tear most get, left side lower seat, was the same in my T-100 that had 642,000ish miles. Truck is great, the edge of the seat not so much, So needs improvement there for me. Otherwise super dependable and tows great. Even overweight 🤫. I still drive it all the time. It's my everyday work, tow, and play truck. I wish I would have got 4×4, only regret. Was out of my price range.
This is FANTASTIC! I always love hearing from Mike Sweers, but to really hear how they decided on different components to put into this new Tundra is VERY informative. Very glad i ordered one!
Great overview of the upgrades and lesson's learned from the 1M mile truck. It says a lot about Toyota that they took immediate advantage of extreme real life testing to develop their product. I'm in the market for a new truck so I'll be visiting my Toyota dealer, for sure.
They did not use the million mile truck to design the new truck. It was strictly a marketing tool to make you think that they are breaking new ground with this new truck. New designs are done to drive cost out of the truck not give you something that last forever. They make money on renewal business.
The truck needs front tow hooks, a back bumper to give you something to step on to get in easier, better interior lighting, auto 4x4, a better looking front end, better gas mileage and a flex fuel option. The lower versions should have the same horse power and torque as the more expensive models
@badbill exactly why I’m getting the 2022 Ram 1500 eco diesel. Plus I test drove the Ram and it’s Way better in every category than the Tundra! It was like I was in my Lexus when I drove the Ram.
Omg, I feel blind in my 2017 tundra at night, and that is after an interior lights upgrade ExtraBright Led kit.. Never ever had I had that problem in ANY vehicle I have owned. I don't get it.
I own a 2003 SR5 Tundra 3.4 liter 325,654 miles and going strong i drive her 115 miles a day pulling my utility trailer a trio from Daytona Beach Florida to Salem West Virginia every 3 weeks.
Well this video didn't age well. The new Tundra is full of flaws 2 years in. Lower ground clearance, poor approach/departure angles, no tow hooks, narrow front windshield, numerous complaints about wind noise around the doors, no flat floor with the massive battery under the rear seat, broken seat plastic, a garbage jbl sound system going on for over 10 years, turbo waste gate issues and now connecting rod failures, brake wear issues and a litany of fit and finish NVH issues that would NOT be permitted in a Land Cruiser. It's a massive disappointment that is once again tied to the legendary Mike Sweers. It should have been a halo truck after nearly a decade of R&D.
I absolutely love the content this channel gets from toyota! Much appreciated. If I could make a request.... can you be the first channel to do a more in depth explanation of the differences between the 2022 sr trim and the sr5 trim? Is there any mechanical differences other than active aero in the grill and lower front splitter ? I would assume the efi tune/power decrease is just to compensate for lack of fancy aero tricks for mpg?
It’s crazy Toyota doesn’t make a commercial about this. Instead they just show a truck driving through the dirt. This would actually sell someone more than “let’s go places”.
Transfer case chain in a 1/2 ton truck that is beefy as a 1 ton truck ? WOW I love it ! 10.5 inch ring gear ? Man this new tundra tundra is a beast ! I’ve noticed even tie rods and front axle shafts , ball joints and upper / lower Aarms are MASSIVE on this gen3 tundra , I’m impressed!!! That’s why I bought one and , I love it …..
Part of me is convinced that trucks respond well to being worked hard for extended periods of time doing things like towing. The high mileage hot shot trucks all have regular oil changes in common though.
@@Otownbassin It had to be pretty good amount of idling as he's a big guy and its hot in Louisiana in the summer months. Some engines can handle idling pretty well but to some prolonged idling is a death knell. IE the new Ram 5.7 Hemi.
@@1gr8oil I was Ohio State Highway patrol and if Utah is like Ohio they don't keep those cars over 90k. Many of the issues are happening after the 100K mark but some before. ua-cam.com/video/inPUz3pCHa0/v-deo.html
This video made me realize now that i need to take everything these engineers say with a grain of salt. When this video came out, i was thinking, wow, this new Tundra seem great in every way. Watching it two years later, it shows you all the cost cutting they did, they haven’t even fixed the seat side trim cracking, 3 years after release. They just recalled ~100k Tundras because of metal shavings in the engine. If you own a new Tundra that is less than 3 years old and have less than 36k miles, i highly suggest you add the Toyota extended warranty if you plan on keeping this car for a long time.
ok, about the ballistic nylon, I get that it's strong and it bounces back, but how well does it resist deformation in the first place, as in how stiff is it for off-road use? Thick steel is nice to the degree that you can rest or bash the truck on a rock to a degree and not worry that it's bent and hit whatever's behind it. Ballistic nylon in a bulletproof vest prevents penetration, but you'll still get broken ribs and significant bruising without any plates behind it.
I'd like more info on this material. From my experience, ballistic nylon is a woven fabric style material that flexes, conforms to different shapes easily and is elastic and able to absorb energy (hence the name). The underbody protection there looks very rigid. Is it a true ballistic nylon fabric? Or is it just a name from a similar company who makes actual ballistic nylon?
It would be cool to have Mike S. team up with the overland community on the impacts of mods on the design, and how the aftermarket can be optimized. Plus it gives Toyota a research lab for their own version. Perhaps they already do this today
interesting, but i'm really interested in seeing the engine breakdown, what the internals looked like, wear on the rings, pistons, valves, etc....great video
Not a fan of some of the design elements of the new Tundra, but it’s hard not to want one listening to Mike. Most informed down to earth engineer Ive seen by far.
GREAT video Tim! Mike is so amazing and I hope to meet and hopefully wheel w/ him one day, heard he's a blast. Anyways, when he started talking about the mileage limitation of a "certain" Toyota, I knew exactly what he was talking about lol. My customer was trading their 2nd Gen Prius in for a 2013, back in 2013 and when I went to get the miles on the old Prius, I was like...couldn't you have just driven it around out front until you hit 300k? Hahaha, they said it just stopped there a few years ago lol. So it showed 299,999. I have a picture of it in my High Mileage Album.
Rumor has it Toyota took the million mile Tundra apart to make damn sure they didn't make that mistake again. BTW - Joking, love Toyota and Lexus, own one of each and am leaning towards a Tundra Hybrid as my next vehicle.
That is really a normal sight here in Israel. Not tundra but hiluxes that are over 20 years old, have dents on every panel, including the roof still roll around like nothing.
The things you don't see are the things that makes a Toyota a Toyota. Quality,Dependability,Reliability Low Depreciation, High Resale. Love my Yotas!! They'll always have a place to call home.😄
lol the 2022 Tundra the "last truck purchase of your life"?? Good luck with that Jim- it's only a matter of time before your truck starts having problems. Trust me.
Would be nice to see all the components of the outgoing tundra next to the new one. The advertisements and videos on the old tundra were all about how tough and overbuilt it was. The new tundra commercials are about driving the truck next to dirt bikes and towing light weight sxs trailers and doing other things a Subaru Outback shows their vehicles doing. It’s just not being advertised for work.
The vehicle that stopped at 299,999 is the 07 Corolla, mines at 325,000 (runs like new still) and it’s still says 299,999. I only know it’s over because I keep track with my trip meter.
He was about to say F-350...I wish there was a way to compare next to all brands. Line them up chevy, ford, Nissan, ext. And show up what they do vs toyota. I'm sure would be a huge eye opener either way.
They probably do have those parts, but Toyota is not going to be the company that puts on a display like that. And they are clearly using ford because it’s the market leader.
I’ll save you the trouble. My friend is a mechanical engineer at Toyota and tears apart competitor cars all the time. Ford is without a doubt the cheapest manufacturer that is always looking to save money. My friend said the things they put in their Ford trucks isn’t up to our standard in Toyota trucks. GM he says is much better built than Ford, and Honda is the closest to them. Nissan is okay.
Tim curious on your thoughts after your experience with the 22 Tundra? The fact that this front seat was made such a bid deal of given its overall great condition after a million miles I find it ironic the issues you had with your seat after less then a year of ownership. Do you think this is something Toyota will address given the fact of all the issues I'm seeing with the plastic trim piece breaking/coming off like yours did. Also no matter of anyone’s opinion of Toyota I believe most will agree Mike is the most honest and transparent lead engineer who is willing to actually talk to people compared to any other truck manufacturer.
@@cwqrpportable Well for value in Canada it is. The competitors jacked all their prices. And most of the components minus the frame look like they are for a 3/4 ton. Just look at the brakes next time you see one for example.
I have a 2011 5.7 Tundra Limited Edition with 200k miles. Besides regular maintenance, I have had zero issues with my truck….By far the most overly engineered, reliable vehicle I have ever owned. My goal is to also obtain that 1 million mile mark. Toyota Tough!!
The problem with having the u joint as the weak link is that if loaded beyond its torque limit the violent shock created by the u joint breaking deforms the driveshaft and ruins it completely. I prefer to have the tube deform. Driveshaft tubes are cheap at a driveshaft shop.
anyway you can engineer something to empty/clean the back of the bed out over the transition of the tail ? This would be a monumental thing in my option.....
Are there any updates on durability since they first introduced the Tundra? Many of us who are current owners of Tundras, 2nd gen are anxiously awaiting to see how the first two model years have gone.
I love this truck and love the ideas. I really do. But comming from a 2011 f150 3.5 ecoboost owner, turbos just cannot, and will not last forever. I had no issues with the motor that 3.5l is an absolute monster. It was the turbos. Having a background of building small 4cyl. Turbo powered cars, turbos do NOT last forever. Its great that they're making all these body improvements. I dont know of any manufacturer that guarantees a turbocharger for a million miles. I just don't.
Just ordered a new 22 Tundra yesterday, tired of GM and their bullcrap. Only thing I'm not happy about is the wait to get it, July to as late as Sept to get it.
@@watchmanexpert it’s been a year and still waiting for my tundra They called in late September and said I’d be getting a 2023 but still no sign of it as of April 2023
@@patrickc8190 wow 😯 … did u had GMC sierra before? U got problem with GM ? Sorry many questions I have Nissan Titan and want buy new truck but can’t decide between Tundra , sierra and Silverado
@@watchmanexpert well my last sierra had engine problems that started when it had 200,000km and transmission went at 230,000 A buddy ordered the new tundra 6-7 weeks ahead of mine He got his in late August and I still haven’t gotten mine I’m probably going to buy a sierra soon if I don’t get my tundra very soon.
I hope Toyota uses the feedback from 2022s to deal with some of the issues they are currently having. Crappy turning radius, worst in class, squeaky interior plastics, subscription navigation all need to be corrected.
I think the new drivetrain needs at least 3 years to be proven out before I'd ever consider it. For now I'll stick with my 2018 v8 Tundra. I do think I'll be leaning towards the hybrid drivetrain for my next truck.
Same, look at the changes Ford made to the Ecoboost over that period of time. Moved vacuum pumps because of corrosion, added port injection, electronic waste gate cycling. All from lessons learned over time. It's the very reason why I bought a 21
Pickuptrucktalk could you confirm the size of the non turbo tundra rear pumpkin and gear ring size? From my understanding the hybrid has a bigger one?? Also the seat in my 22 tundra just cracked after 14000 miles…. Very unfortunate even after Toyota claims here that they found ways to shave weight and keep comfort but clearly lacking durability now. And yes I use my running board and that shouldn’t matter.
Hello, thanks for your comments. It sent me down a rabbit hole to find the information. According to Toyota, both the gas and hybrid have the same rear axle ratio which means they would have the same rear pumpkin and gear ring size. I'd also say the prop shaft is the same for both engines. Toyota has never pointed out they are different and, frankly, if they were, they would have made a big deal about it. Here is the link to the tech spreadsheet and you can see the final axle ratio size:toyota-cms-media.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2023_Toyota_Tundra_Product_Information.pdf For the seat, I did a video on this issue and brought that to their attention.
@@Pickuptrucktalk hey so I was watching this review I’ll attach the link but apparently the non hybrid v6 is 9.5 inch and the hybrid is 10.5… maybe if you ever talk to the engineers again you could ask them why, because the 21 had a 10.5 rear diff and the new one is smaller . ua-cam.com/video/6nJF1PQK0M4/v-deo.html
@@Pickuptrucktalk At the 4:15 mark the side of the seat cover overlaps the plastic. I checked other videos also and it should be even with the plastic where the seat controls are. I own Toyotas because of their great build quality.
@@jamesc158 Interesting. I see what you are seeing now. I just ran outside and checked the Limited I bought for this year. The seat doesn't look the same. Maybe just a pre-production version of the truck. I do know the one in the video doesn't have a VIN. It is a test mule basically and when Toyota is done, it will go to scrap.
Did you get a chance to ask Mike how come he did not put shed handles in the truck we need them I wish you can give me an answer thanks for everything you do I love your show
The 299,999 odometer cars they aren't disclosing are the Prius, Matrix, and Corolla. Hand jotting mileage from 300k onward isn't daunting considering that's the only work you'll ever have to do. On the bright side when your insurance goes to verify mileage you put zero miles on every year and get a heck of a discount.
Great content thanks for taking the time with Mike. I could listen to him for hours. He is truly passionate about the truck and it’s quality and long term durability. I got a 21 as I was a little skeptical of the 22 being so new. I will upgrade to the new gen once all the bugs are ironed out and I know it will still carry the reliability that Tundra is known for.
Curious why you didn't ask Mike about the No. 1 concern that '22 owners have with this truck - the wastegate actuator issue affecting the Turbo and requiring replacement. Separate video?
Purchased my 2k Tundra. Drove it for 400k miles till 4 months ago. Some dumbass pull out in front of me and truck was totaled. Will definitely look for another Tundra.
Vic is the perfect tester for durability , I hope he gets a 2022 Tundra , the fact that he slept in it adds another dimension .. very few truck owners put a truck to the test like Vic.
Super interview Tim
Will be lucky to get 100k out of the new one... the fit and finish and quality of the 22 is terrible
@@mjuberian it’s a Toyota. Stick to the maintenance intervals from the owner’s manual and it will last as long as you.
I purchased an 07 SR5 new off the lot. Best 34k I ever spent. It has 282k still runs great. Everything works, nothing is ripped, broken.. I do all my own maintenance.
Using Toyota parts?
I have a 03 Dodge Hemi with 270,XXX miles on it oringinal motor, trans. And its been towing a 7k lb. Travel trailer for the last 3 yrs, all across the US. And i do my own maintance on it and i think that's the key,,, we do our own maintance on it. 👍
This guy is the main reason I had to get a Tundra. The engineering. I feel like if I were to be in his position I would do the same things. I love that the standards are high cause they should be! Also, you can tell Mike authentically cares about creating a high quality long lasting vehicle. I could have gone another 45 mins here.
What about the shoddy designed bumpers?
Agree I could nerd out listening to Mike for hours. He is what sold me on the 21 Tundra I bought.
@@shanefarley3575 Yeah I know man this is good stuff. I watch all the “Mike Sweers” interviews. Always interesting.
@@shanefarley3575 he did his Job…selling
Well, Stephen Provost was the Senior Engineer of the Second Generation Tundra, not Mike. Mike was in charge to cut 40 percent of the cost, because Toyota thought Stephen over engineered it , and Toyota was bitter it didn’t sell in bigger numbers, and why it took too long to redesign it. Mike himself said this new Tundra wasn’t the direction he wanted, but made the most of the Landcruiser platform, and cut costs to make a new Tundra happen.
I can guarantee you the payload of the Tundra is under rated after seeing Vic and what he hauls. To do that for 1 million miles and not have suspension, frame or axle issues...definitely under rated.
It's an overbuilt 1/2 ton
My 2010 Tundra developed bed rot the started from below the bed. I assume the sealant was squished from between the bed and frame. Up here in New England we use a lot of road salt. Add the wet road salt to a new cavity now for it to fester and there you go.
I’m thinking he jacked it up, put in gear and ran it through some tanks of gas.
I’m thinking at idle with no load could reach 40 or 50 mph.
@@ericbuchta9765 I'm thinking...you are not really thinking.
@@duggydo lol
I bought my first Tundra from same dealership as the million mile truck..Ive always heard about Toyota getting it back and tearing it apart to learn from it. Glad i can now see it come full circle.
When Toyota bought Vic's Tundra they gave him another one this time with the 5.7 V8, and I saw on another video he's already up to 750,000 miles and going for a million again.
Toyota's aren't perfect but dam they are impressive.
Yes I've seen that too.....and there are several that are in that 600K-700K ranges.
Especially considering these are gas burners amd all the miles are on the original engines with no repairs of any kind to the engines!
Vic and I have been talking. You better believe I’ll have a video on that.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks Tim I would love to see that video and please have him elaborate on OCI, transmission intervals, Diff and transfer case intervals & type of driving ...(was it mostly towing/payload carrying etc...) & How much Idling he did in the vehicle.
Yes I agree but Toyota fucked up BIG TIME by getting rid of the v8 the new engines are not better mark my words
Was reading posts on a 2022 Tundra forum recently, and a high-level Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician (of 30 years) said this new Tundra has him worried about the truck's marginal quality.
He also stated that he talks to a lot of the "higher-ups" at Toyota, including Field Technical Specialists and Engineers, and there is a lot of talk within Toyota's inner-circle about problems with the '22 Tundra.
Can you link to the forums?
I just bought a 2018. When at the dealership they kept trying to push me into a new one. I told the sales manager, “Y’all haven’t figured that engine out, yet.” And he(the sales manager of a large DFW Toyota dealership) responded with, “I won’t argue with you there.”
I couldn’t believe it. No one at Toyota likes the new Tundra, especially the engine.
Love it when you get Mike Sweers on here! Super cool stuff. Thank you.
Thanks Tim for doing this type of video. To the marketing team at Toyota, we need this type of information and comparisons to make our buying decisions. Wether it’s in advertisements or YT videos I would like to see more of the reasons to choose this new Tundra. Thanks again for getting with Mike on this.
Always great the hear Engineer Mike talk about 3rd gen upgrades. Makes me appreciate my 2022 a bit more as I’m coming from 2000 Tacoma to 2022 Tundra, never had the 2nd gen V8
Tell me what you think in 5 years
Should have bought a 2021
Hoy u like the new tundra ? Any issue ?
I purchased a 2016 SR5 4x4 in 2018. Paid it off last year. Has 139k on it. Never an issue. I drive to Colorado every year from South Florida and take it Elk Hunting on some very hard Jeep trails. I added Bilstein shocks, 4" lift, custom bumpers, a W 8:12 8:15 arn 12K lb winch and 35" tires to it. I have changed fluids on schedule and use the best available. It will last through retirement.
I’ve carried 3400 lbs in my 2014 Tundra CrewMax 4x4. Not a single issue. Did this for over 20k miles.
I purchased brand new, an 07 Tundra 5.7 SR5 4x4. Best 34k I have ever spent!!!! Has 282K, run great!
Great video, Tim! I always enjoy these Mike Sweers episodes. Heck, any lead engineer on your channel is always informative. It's nice to know where they're coming from when designing a truck.
Vic is about to have another million mile Tundra. Probably sometime this year. I saw his odometer on another channel. My goodness, that guy can put on the miles!!!
Yep he was already over 700K on the newer 5.7 truck he has
@@dalephillips8250 I hope they give him a 2022 Tundra. He could put the new redesign to a true reliability test.
@@bubba4072 that would be interesting. However, I truly don't believe this new TT V6 can come close to that
Love this video! I’m a women who grew up with a mechanic brother. He raced and I was his pit crew. I built a classic show truck of my own . I totally understand everything he is talking about. The quality of his engineering makes me feel confident in my purchases from Toyota. I loved my composite bed in my 2007 Tacoma and I abused it with garden materials car parts etc. Only drawback it is slick as snot. A bed pad solved that. I sold my Tacoma in 2020 with a 140k miles on it with only a front wheel baring replaced. I now own a 2020 Tundra and will most likely wait a couple years and get the new model. Although I love my 2020.
This is the reason why I purchased a 2021 Toyota Tundra TRD PRO and was lucky enough to get it in Lunar color, before they discontinued the V8. Really love it and hope to keep it for the rest of my life, I’m only 35 years old, I bet it can out last me!!!.
hat is a nice truck but honestly it is going to cost you tens of thousands of dollars in fuel. I had a 2020 and loved it but I was getting 11-12 mpg around town. I love V8's but the cost to drive them is getting insane.
There's 5.7 Tundras with million miles as well. 2nd gen are very reliable. Look at Blaine Johnsons million mile 5.7 Tundra. Toyota please put front end of Sequoia on the Tundra. Looks way better.
Totally agree about the front end. They totally messed that up on the new trucks imo
I like both, don't think one looks better than the other.
Yep saw that.....and it seems as if I saw another 5.7 aside from Blaine's also.
Interesting. I currently own a 1st gen 4.7 V8. I had no doubt the 5.7 would be just as reliable. My next Tundra ( not for a long while) will be 2nd gen. Unless Uncle Joe and the EPA gouge them out of existence lol.
I’ve got 359k on a 2014 5.7. Hoping my sons can get it to 1 million at some point. Are they still giving you a free replacement if you hit the mark?
You have to respect the customer appreciation and positive feedback loop that Toyota learns from. Hopefully the new generation can get to that 7th digit💪
Really impressive for the seat holding up so well! That is extreme testing at every level for a driver’s seat.
Especially when you compare it to Ram. I have 2 friends amd a coworker who had Rams and on all 3 of them the drivers seat side bolster was destroyed and down to the metal! Not sure how the new rams seats hold up but this was back in 2017 and two of the trucks were about 3-4 years old. The other was a little newer and this was in 2019.
@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix RAM has the highest quality interiors in their upper trims on the market. That to me is where their standard begins and ends because every other part of the truck falls apart as it goes past 100k. The 5.7 is pretty tough although it hasn't been updated in a while. Their top end interiors are best in class. Do they hold up? 🤷🏽♂️ Idk
Unreal durability. I’ve got an Escalade with 70k miles and I’m half the size of Victor and the bolster is looking squished already.
Toyota has first rate suppliers who have been constantly improving themselves with Toyota biting at their heels for years...that's how you put out a quality product. I have a 2005 Camry with leather seats, not a single rip or tear and its padded and firm. Best seats.
2 years later and this video pops up on my feed. 2 years later and we're seeing all the failures.
Exactly. They didn’t learn from the million mile truck. They just fell inline with the movement away from large displacement engines. What a shame
@@eriknash8783to be fair the issues with the engine today are more the fault of manufacturing defects as opposed to how the truck was designed and engineered, which still holds true to what they are saying in the video
One of the trucks I own is a 2007 DC 4.7 engine with bench seat with 250k miles. I agree the seats are still iin good condition the only things that have failed is some door behind the dash that allows air to go from vents to defrost and the alternator at 200k miles. The most trouble free vehicle I have ever had
Those are great models. I had a 2001 that I wish I never parted with. Only problem I had was the breather valve on the rear differential. I needed to replace it because I drove through shallow rivers and streams while trout fishing and the water level would reach it. Only a $7 part.
FWIW... these are the interviews that I can sit and listen to for hours. Maybe some footage of the material testing & failure analysis if it's not too proprietary. Instills confidence in owners when they're out there about to do something "semi-sketchy".👍
Agreed, makes me appreciate my 2022 through all the internet hate and pickiness.
Thanks Tim for the video, lets not forget, that these million miles Tundras were designed and lunched by the engineers before mike Sweers. Mike did not do anything to improve the Tundra, which was 2008 Motor Trend truck of the year. In fact, he removed practical and functional features, like grab handle, transmission cooler, etc.
Funny that he mention "torque is king", and developed the Tacoma 3rd gen. that is gutless.
Your response is perfect. Mike Sweers was a Chrysler Engineer and has destroyed Toyota truck quality. The Redesigns are done to lower their cost and increase yours over time. Glad that their is another educated viewer.
Too reliable goes against the numbers. Disposable vehicles are what they are aiming for. Obviously they would be made of cardboard by then. Wait. 70 s cars rusted and cardboard was still used up till the 90s. They know how and what to make cheap for it to last at least 5 years and FEEL good to touch. They been putting weights in door handles for over 20 years
@@ICU81269 Thank you, and for the ones that don't know. Yuichiro Obu was the chief engineer for 2007 Tundra. In July 2010, Sweers became the chief engineer for the Toyota Tundra followed by chief engineer of the Toyota Tacoma in April 2012.
Wouldn't call it gutless, but anyone like Vic will never get that durability again. Pulling heavy will heat those turbos and substantially reduce longevity. Bed is 2" shorter, less volume less weight. Every manufacturer is doing similar shenanigans
These are the types of vids I cannot skip through. Evar!
The fact that Toyota acknowledged its own design failures in the past tundra and corrected it for future tundras says so much about them as a brand. No other vehicle manufacture would ever do that, so much respect for Toyota after this video.
As a former skilled trades contractor who spent time in various domestic plants throughout Michigan, General Motors specifically, I strictly forbid my family from EVER driving ANY domestic vehicle ! If it’s not engineered in 🇯🇵 Japan it will not sit in my garage !
@@johnberry2877 lol my parents drove GM and Chrysler all my life and had nothing but problems. I think I was 14 when I told them to get a toyota, they have never looked back
Well done and thank you Tim and Mike!
Best video to-date on the 22 Tundra mechanical specs, materials, etc. and the lessons learned that have been applied from previous generations.
I and maybe other subscribers here would love to see a similar report out on the TECHNOLOGY changes applied to this gen truck from lessons learned? What or how have new technology changes been applied to make the Tundra an improved and better truck?
Thanks again!
Technology, as in the infotainment screen, is terrible.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Yes, as one example but also how and where technology has been applied to the power train.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Tim what’s your email address please?
@@dexlex2002 tim@pickuptrucktalk.com
@@Pickuptrucktalk emailed. Thank you
My experience is a little different mostly with the front seat. 2010 Tundra 4.6 extracab ⁶speed with tow-hall has been with me since 2008 (cash for clunkers cleared out 09 stock, only thing left was the next year's models).
Besides the wheel wells my truck bed has seen more damage. And I drive it hard, really hard the first 5 years 40,000 miles a year with lots of cubicle furniture loads or tools and some towing. With what I just saw, engineers didn't take into account the lower bed section reinforcement. I push pallets till the truck bed stops it. I have had (7 HM Ethospace larger wall mount work stations with ² drawer lateral files and peds) 4- dbl stacked 42"d × 48"w loaded pallets and like a 60" wide pallet on the tailgate and that last pallet was hanging off the edge.
So the bottom of bed front is bent towards the body. Now with heavy loads I can hear a slight tapping of the bed hitting the cab.
I couldn't sleep in the driver side, I had to use passenger side. My driver seat has the same tear most get, left side lower seat, was the same in my T-100 that had 642,000ish miles. Truck is great, the edge of the seat not so much, So needs improvement there for me.
Otherwise super dependable and tows great. Even overweight 🤫. I still drive it all the time. It's my everyday work, tow, and play truck. I wish I would have got 4×4, only regret. Was out of my price range.
I hope there are more if these videos, should be a series on all the engineering they can show.
6:58 - They were referring to 03-06 Toyota Corolla. I had one and I had to swap it out. I drove it for another 180k before letting it go.
This is FANTASTIC! I always love hearing from Mike Sweers, but to really hear how they decided on different components to put into this new Tundra is VERY informative. Very glad i ordered one!
Great overview of the upgrades and lesson's learned from the 1M mile truck. It says a lot about Toyota that they took immediate advantage of extreme real life testing to develop their product. I'm in the market for a new truck so I'll be visiting my Toyota dealer, for sure.
New truck not built to last like old truck use ur brain 🧠 u really think those new turbo v6’s will be problem free 😂
They did not use the million mile truck to design the new truck. It was strictly a marketing tool to make you think that they are breaking new ground with this new truck. New designs are done to drive cost out of the truck not give you something that last forever. They make money on renewal business.
Are you really that Gullible? The lessons learned from the two million mile Tundras, was how to make sure it never happens again.
The 4.7 is legendary.
The truck needs front tow hooks, a back bumper to give you something to step on to get in easier, better interior lighting, auto 4x4, a better looking front end, better gas mileage and a flex fuel option. The lower versions should have the same horse power and torque as the more expensive models
@badbill exactly why I’m getting the 2022 Ram 1500 eco diesel. Plus I test drove the Ram and it’s Way better in every category than the Tundra! It was like I was in my Lexus when I drove the Ram.
Omg, I feel blind in my 2017 tundra at night, and that is after an interior lights upgrade ExtraBright Led kit.. Never ever had I had that problem in ANY vehicle I have owned. I don't get it.
I own a 2003 SR5 Tundra 3.4 liter 325,654 miles and going strong i drive her 115 miles a day pulling my utility trailer a trio from Daytona Beach Florida to Salem West Virginia every 3 weeks.
Well this video didn't age well. The new Tundra is full of flaws 2 years in. Lower ground clearance, poor approach/departure angles, no tow hooks, narrow front windshield, numerous complaints about wind noise around the doors, no flat floor with the massive battery under the rear seat, broken seat plastic, a garbage jbl sound system going on for over 10 years, turbo waste gate issues and now connecting rod failures, brake wear issues and a litany of fit and finish NVH issues that would NOT be permitted in a Land Cruiser.
It's a massive disappointment that is once again tied to the legendary Mike Sweers.
It should have been a halo truck after nearly a decade of R&D.
I absolutely love the content this channel gets from toyota! Much appreciated. If I could make a request.... can you be the first channel to do a more in depth explanation of the differences between the 2022 sr trim and the sr5 trim? Is there any mechanical differences other than active aero in the grill and lower front splitter ? I would assume the efi tune/power decrease is just to compensate for lack of fancy aero tricks for mpg?
Our steel bed was beat up, so we decided to replace it with plastic.
It’s crazy Toyota doesn’t make a commercial about this. Instead they just show a truck driving through the dirt.
This would actually sell someone more than “let’s go places”.
This was an EXTREMELY useful video. Excellent job Tim!!
Transfer case chain in a 1/2 ton truck that is beefy as a 1 ton truck ? WOW I love it ! 10.5 inch ring gear ? Man this new tundra tundra is a beast ! I’ve noticed even tie rods and front axle shafts , ball joints and upper / lower Aarms are MASSIVE on this gen3 tundra , I’m impressed!!! That’s why I bought one and , I love it …..
I wish toyota would build a heavy duty pickup with a big diesel like a Cummins. That really would be the ultimate tow rig. Maybe someday.
Part of me is convinced that trucks respond well to being worked hard for extended periods of time doing things like towing. The high mileage hot shot trucks all have regular oil changes in common though.
10K oil changes at that.
@@dalephillips8250 I’m curious how much idling it did if he slept in it. No way he didn’t need ac or heat some point
@@Otownbassin It had to be pretty good amount of idling as he's a big guy and its hot in Louisiana in the summer months. Some engines can handle idling pretty well but to some prolonged idling is a death knell. IE the new Ram 5.7 Hemi.
@@dalephillips8250 We have hundreds of 5.7 Hemi's in our Utah Highway patrol cars, and they idle all the time! No real issues.
@@1gr8oil I was Ohio State Highway patrol and if Utah is like Ohio they don't keep those cars over 90k. Many of the issues are happening after the 100K mark but some before.
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This video made me realize now that i need to take everything these engineers say with a grain of salt.
When this video came out, i was thinking, wow, this new Tundra seem great in every way.
Watching it two years later, it shows you all the cost cutting they did, they haven’t even fixed the seat side trim cracking, 3 years after release.
They just recalled ~100k Tundras because of metal shavings in the engine.
If you own a new Tundra that is less than 3 years old and have less than 36k miles, i highly suggest you add the Toyota extended warranty if you plan on keeping this car for a long time.
Yep seems like most engineers went on sabbatical to a Burger King and forgot they made one of the best 1/2 ton pickups with the 2nd gen
The best interview ever he is breaking down this
ok, about the ballistic nylon, I get that it's strong and it bounces back, but how well does it resist deformation in the first place, as in how stiff is it for off-road use? Thick steel is nice to the degree that you can rest or bash the truck on a rock to a degree and not worry that it's bent and hit whatever's behind it. Ballistic nylon in a bulletproof vest prevents penetration, but you'll still get broken ribs and significant bruising without any plates behind it.
It doesn’t dent according to his information.
I'd like more info on this material. From my experience, ballistic nylon is a woven fabric style material that flexes, conforms to different shapes easily and is elastic and able to absorb energy (hence the name). The underbody protection there looks very rigid. Is it a true ballistic nylon fabric? Or is it just a name from a similar company who makes actual ballistic nylon?
@@ALMX5DP the fabric itself yes, but much like carbon fiber and fiberglass, it is infused with something to give it rigidity.
@@gwot would be interesting to see it put to the test, like let Tim take a hammer and nail to it to show it’ll prevent penetration or something.
Toyota should have a clause on all their vehicles. Put a million miles on it in under 10 years and we’ll give you a new one, free.
It would be cool to have Mike S. team up with the overland community on the impacts of mods on the design, and how the aftermarket can be optimized. Plus it gives Toyota a research lab for their own version. Perhaps they already do this today
Traded in the 07 and bought a new one last month the trd sport is happy as hell with it and they gave me 15 grand for the old 07 trade-in
interesting, but i'm really interested in seeing the engine breakdown, what the internals looked like, wear on the rings, pistons, valves, etc....great video
Did you read the breakdown story I wrote a few years ago?
Not a fan of some of the design elements of the new Tundra, but it’s hard not to want one listening to Mike. Most informed down to earth engineer Ive seen by far.
GREAT video Tim! Mike is so amazing and I hope to meet and hopefully wheel w/ him one day, heard he's a blast. Anyways, when he started talking about the mileage limitation of a "certain" Toyota, I knew exactly what he was talking about lol. My customer was trading their 2nd Gen Prius in for a 2013, back in 2013 and when I went to get the miles on the old Prius, I was like...couldn't you have just driven it around out front until you hit 300k? Hahaha, they said it just stopped there a few years ago lol. So it showed 299,999. I have a picture of it in my High Mileage Album.
Rumor has it Toyota took the million mile Tundra apart to make damn sure they didn't make that mistake again. BTW - Joking, love Toyota and Lexus, own one of each and am leaning towards a Tundra Hybrid as my next vehicle.
always enjoy ur videos Tim!!! great work from ur friends in Buffalo NY
Wow this was a very good video. Watches every minute of it 😄
Impressed and I now know why I own a tundra!
That is really a normal sight here in Israel.
Not tundra but hiluxes that are over 20 years old, have dents on every panel, including the roof still roll around like nothing.
The things you don't see are the things that makes a Toyota a Toyota. Quality,Dependability,Reliability Low Depreciation, High Resale.
Love my Yotas!! They'll always have a place to call home.😄
450,000kms here on an 07.
She’s thirsty but keeps on going
Love the look of the new 22. Needs the bugs worked out first though before I’ll buy
Can I put a fifth wheel hitch in the new composite bed?
LMAO
The 299,999 he’s referring to are 9th Gen Corollas. 2003-2008
I sure hope so , because I have invested into a 2022 , so far so great ! Hoping this is my last truck purchase of my life.
lol the 2022 Tundra the "last truck purchase of your life"??
Good luck with that Jim- it's only a matter of time before your truck starts having problems. Trust me.
Would be nice to see all the components of the outgoing tundra next to the new one. The advertisements and videos on the old tundra were all about how tough and overbuilt it was. The new tundra commercials are about driving the truck next to dirt bikes and towing light weight sxs trailers and doing other things a Subaru Outback shows their vehicles doing. It’s just not being advertised for work.
The vehicle that stopped at 299,999 is the 07 Corolla, mines at 325,000 (runs like new still) and it’s still says 299,999. I only know it’s over because I keep track with my trip meter.
I had a rhino liner sprayed in the bed. Tough stuff, no damage to the bed.
Awesome information! Tim, you make me a more informed consumer.
He was about to say F-350...I wish there was a way to compare next to all brands. Line them up chevy, ford, Nissan, ext. And show up what they do vs toyota. I'm sure would be a huge eye opener either way.
They probably do have those parts, but Toyota is not going to be the company that puts on a display like that. And they are clearly using ford because it’s the market leader.
I’ll save you the trouble. My friend is a mechanical engineer at Toyota and tears apart competitor cars all the time. Ford is without a doubt the cheapest manufacturer that is always looking to save money. My friend said the things they put in their Ford trucks isn’t up to our standard in Toyota trucks. GM he says is much better built than Ford, and Honda is the closest to them. Nissan is okay.
Tim curious on your thoughts after your experience with the 22 Tundra? The fact that this front seat was made such a bid deal of given its overall great condition after a million miles I find it ironic the issues you had with your seat after less then a year of ownership. Do you think this is something Toyota will address given the fact of all the issues I'm seeing with the plastic trim piece breaking/coming off like yours did.
Also no matter of anyone’s opinion of Toyota I believe most will agree Mike is the most honest and transparent lead engineer who is willing to actually talk to people compared to any other truck manufacturer.
Pickuptruck talk, Also is that prop shaft the same size for the non turbo tundra?
It's the best truck on the market right now. Thanks Tim interesting video.
Not
@@cwqrpportable Well for value in Canada it is. The competitors jacked all their prices. And most of the components minus the frame look like they are for a 3/4 ton. Just look at the brakes next time you see one for example.
I have a 2011 5.7 Tundra Limited Edition with 200k miles. Besides regular maintenance, I have had zero issues with my truck….By far the most overly engineered, reliable vehicle I have ever owned. My goal is to also obtain that 1 million mile mark. Toyota Tough!!
How is the mpg ? Any issue with the truck?
I issues but regular maintenance. Tires, brakes, oil ect…Gas mileage not the best but I’m fine with that. Reliability trumps that.
This video was great, please tell me you have more videos with Mike?
Lots. Just search on this channel.
Absolutely love and appreciate this video!!! Good job Tim🍻
The problem with having the u joint as the weak link is that if loaded beyond its torque limit the violent shock created by the u joint breaking deforms the driveshaft and ruins it completely. I prefer to have the tube deform. Driveshaft tubes are cheap at a driveshaft shop.
anyway you can engineer something to empty/clean the back of the bed out over the transition of the tail ? This would be a monumental thing in my option.....
2019 tundra. Added a transmission cooler. We will see how long it lasts
Are there any updates on durability since they first introduced the Tundra? Many of us who are current owners of Tundras, 2nd gen are anxiously awaiting to see how the first two model years have gone.
Tim's an AK guy, a man of culture.
I love this truck and love the ideas. I really do. But comming from a 2011 f150 3.5 ecoboost owner, turbos just cannot, and will not last forever. I had no issues with the motor that 3.5l is an absolute monster. It was the turbos. Having a background of building small 4cyl. Turbo powered cars, turbos do NOT last forever. Its great that they're making all these body improvements. I dont know of any manufacturer that guarantees a turbocharger for a million miles. I just don't.
Just ordered a new 22 Tundra yesterday, tired of GM and their bullcrap. Only thing I'm not happy about is the wait to get it, July to as late as Sept to get it.
How u like the tundra ?
@@watchmanexpert it’s been a year and still waiting for my tundra
They called in late September and said I’d be getting a 2023 but still no sign of it as of April 2023
@@patrickc8190 wow 😯 … did u had GMC sierra before? U got problem with GM ? Sorry many questions I have Nissan Titan and want buy new truck but can’t decide between Tundra , sierra and Silverado
@@watchmanexpert well my last sierra had engine problems that started when it had 200,000km and transmission went at 230,000
A buddy ordered the new tundra 6-7 weeks ahead of mine
He got his in late August and I still haven’t gotten mine
I’m probably going to buy a sierra soon if I don’t get my tundra very soon.
I hope Toyota uses the feedback from 2022s to deal with some of the issues they are currently having. Crappy turning radius, worst in class, squeaky interior plastics, subscription navigation all need to be corrected.
I think the new drivetrain needs at least 3 years to be proven out before I'd ever consider it. For now I'll stick with my 2018 v8 Tundra. I do think I'll be leaning towards the hybrid drivetrain for my next truck.
Same, look at the changes Ford made to the Ecoboost over that period of time. Moved vacuum pumps because of corrosion, added port injection, electronic waste gate cycling. All from lessons learned over time. It's the very reason why I bought a 21
Why didn’t they keep the front bench seat
Great video! Really enjoyed the content Tim
Pickuptrucktalk could you confirm the size of the non turbo tundra rear pumpkin and gear ring size? From my understanding the hybrid has a bigger one??
Also the seat in my 22 tundra just cracked after 14000 miles…. Very unfortunate even after Toyota claims here that they found ways to shave weight and keep comfort but clearly lacking durability now. And yes I use my running board and that shouldn’t matter.
I forgot to add that it was the plastic moulding near the switches on the driver seat that cracked and I can see another crack forming.
Hello, thanks for your comments. It sent me down a rabbit hole to find the information. According to Toyota, both the gas and hybrid have the same rear axle ratio which means they would have the same rear pumpkin and gear ring size. I'd also say the prop shaft is the same for both engines. Toyota has never pointed out they are different and, frankly, if they were, they would have made a big deal about it.
Here is the link to the tech spreadsheet and you can see the final axle ratio size:toyota-cms-media.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2023_Toyota_Tundra_Product_Information.pdf
For the seat, I did a video on this issue and brought that to their attention.
@@Pickuptrucktalk thanks big time!!! Keep doing what you do !
@@Pickuptrucktalk hey so I was watching this review I’ll attach the link but apparently the non hybrid v6 is 9.5 inch and the hybrid is 10.5… maybe if you ever talk to the engineers again you could ask them why, because the 21 had a 10.5 rear diff and the new one is smaller . ua-cam.com/video/6nJF1PQK0M4/v-deo.html
Why not give Vick the updated truck to have him really test it. The data you can get from him will really help with any future upgrades.
It’s going to happen soon. Vic is nearly shoot to do it again.
Why does the side of the bottom of the driver's seat on the 2022 look like it is coming apart from the plastic seat trim?
Camera angle maybe? Not sure. It didn’t look that way in person.
@@Pickuptrucktalk At the 4:15 mark the side of the seat cover overlaps the plastic. I checked other videos also and it should be even with the plastic where the seat controls are. I own Toyotas because of their great build quality.
@@jamesc158 Interesting. I see what you are seeing now. I just ran outside and checked the Limited I bought for this year. The seat doesn't look the same. Maybe just a pre-production version of the truck. I do know the one in the video doesn't have a VIN. It is a test mule basically and when Toyota is done, it will go to scrap.
Did you get a chance to ask Mike how come he did not put shed handles in the truck we need them I wish you can give me an answer thanks for everything you do I love your show
Sorry, shed handles?
Ask any mechanic if he’d prefer a twin turbo V6 engine or a naturally aspirated V8 enough said
That was a great video more please.
Love these vids. Thanks for doing them.
Glad you like them!
The 299,999 odometer cars they aren't disclosing are the Prius, Matrix, and Corolla. Hand jotting mileage from 300k onward isn't daunting considering that's the only work you'll ever have to do. On the bright side when your insurance goes to verify mileage you put zero miles on every year and get a heck of a discount.
Great content thanks for taking the time with Mike. I could listen to him for hours. He is truly passionate about the truck and it’s quality and long term durability. I got a 21 as I was a little skeptical of the 22 being so new. I will upgrade to the new gen once all the bugs are ironed out and I know it will still carry the reliability that Tundra is known for.
Mike Sweeney, as usual…thank you for the Engineering behind the scenes info
Are thay going to make the new one in a 6 seater. I wish thay would
Curious why you didn't ask Mike about the No. 1 concern that '22 owners have with this truck - the wastegate actuator issue affecting the Turbo and requiring replacement. Separate video?
Great Video, Did Mike figure out how to add tow hooks and fix the access to the bed yet? 🤣🙄
He is trying to figure out what is gong on with the turbos first, this guy is worthless
Great video I’m a little confused though didn’t they put a smaller rear end in that new truck
I thought they did too but Mike said it’s still a 10.5. Seems smaller though.
Ring gear is the same, ratio is different thanks to 10 speed transmission over 6 speed.
Did you check the truck behind you for a check engine light on for waste gate issues?
No issues with that truck.
This one needs some improvements for sure. Hopefully they will get it back to what a Toyota owner expects in a few years.
Purchased my 2k Tundra. Drove it for 400k miles till 4 months ago. Some dumbass pull out in front of me and truck was totaled. Will definitely look for another Tundra.
I love me some Mike Sweers. Toyota is lucky to have him. Definitely give me confidence about my toyota trucks and suvs.