The biggest mistake the leafs made was paying Matthews, Marnier, Tavares and Nylander those big contracts before they proved themselves in the playoffs. Bad management decision all around.
You could say that and I agree. But to a kid in Toronto getting a jersey with those names on the blue and white maple leaf. Is why the get the big buks. The big stars don’t like Canadian media. And would take a pay cut to stay south. Any team would grovel to have these players. But if you believe enough something special can happen. Look it only took pavelski to take a ghost hit on the chin to rally the sharks come back and beat Vegas. Toronto needs that emotional spark.
@@blainepotskin1884 not to criticize you...but do you realize how weird that is....the core 3 have taken $100 in salary, cheated on taxes, not been competitive in the playoffs, have every thing one dreams of, private jet, chefs, therapists.... and now it has come down to words people say to them. They are sooooo pampered you can't even ask them a question, and they are soft ball questions. I would ask....why the hell you can't show up for work?... Why don't you pay your taxes ?.
They all have NMCs anyways, so........... trading is out of the question. Every one of them, Nylander, Tavares, Marner, Matthews, and Rielly, have full NMCs. They bent this team over, and just had their way with them.
@@eddy5097 LOL... the Sens have more than enought stars already. The last thing they need is another marshmallow who underperforms when games become meaningful.
No other organization would tolerate this Shanaplan era/regime. One playoff series win with the “core four”. No grit,heart,will and desire. At least show up.
I stopped being a fan ten years ago when they lost in game seven to boston. I was done and Im so happy i left. The organization is cursed and will NEVER win! Hockey will be banned bu the coming caliphate before any leafs fans smell a cup!
No other organization would tolerate this..... No offense but you're crazy. Every single organization out there would dream of being able to do what this company does with the mediocre product that it offers. Maximum profits and no stress of having to put a good product available for the consumer to consume. This is a gravy train and they would be fools to change it. If any other organization out there was able to get away with this they would do it in a heartbeat. The players and the company are not the problem. It's the fans that are paying the Bills by supporting the team and buying the merchandise and watching the games that are to blame because they will be there with their wallets wide open regardless of the product being offered. If you were a business owner and you were getting the absolute maximum amount of product possible with your current business plan would you change it?
The organization only tolerates it because it's clear the fans will tolerate anything. At this point, the fans are the problem in terms of performance.
@@peterlue9274Their stars (especially Matthews) have attitude issues and aren’t dedicated to winning. They’ve got an $11m 3rd liner. They have zero offensive depth, zero defence, and zero goaltending. It doesn’t matter who the coach is.
@@mitchwatts814 I think they have amazing attitudes given they have to listen to a bunch of people who can't do anything close to what they can give their opinion about shit they know nothing about.
Is everyone really shocked at their playoff hockey? Here in the States we knew Toronto would choke. It’s part of their playoff persona. If you’re a Leafs fan…yes I’m laughing at you. 😂😆
Write that stone. The Bs have it, led by Marchie and Pasta. They play 100%, 100% of the time, forecheck, back check, dive for the puck and hit people! Totally different TEAM.
I remember when Daniel Briere said to the Leafs "We are going to the playoffs you are going to the golf course" The Leafs continue to make to playoff and stall.
Yeah. It was weird. It seemed like the ultimate coup to get Lamarello in the first place, and then they got rid of him. It would be like trading Mario Lemieux after his rookie year.
The Wings went 25 years in the playoffs till they didn’t have anything left. A few bad years and now they’re headed in the right direction again. I truly believe the Wings will win the cup again before Toronto does.
The fans are the problem. The leafs have no pressure on them to perform other than the pressure they put on themselves which is meaningless because the money keeps rolling in either way. They probably think they are putting pressure on themselves because they really really really want to win a Stanley Cup but that's not real pressure. Empty seats and people tearing up their jerseys is real pressure
Yes, the end of this version of the Leafs is here. They will be dispatched in 5. It's exactly why the Bruins tanked their final two games to get them in the first round. Boston knew that Toronto would be an easy matchup.
For me, as a Habs fan, this is hilarious!! Why?? Because Toronto has this desire to absolutely crap on Montreal. Why?? Because they can’t handle how many times that Cup that resides in Toronto has made the stroll down St.Catherines street. The day Toronto signed Tavares was the day Toronto went in the wrong direction. When you’re rebuilding, you don’t need to have a player eat up 30% of your cap room that quickly, but Dubas is no longer there. You find the filler around your top players. The lesson to be learned? Watch what Toronto did, and don’t do like them. Pretty fun watching a player come close to scoring 70, but can’t do anything in the playoffs, except disappear?! Good luck Toronto, even though it’s insincere 🤣🤣
We've won 10 Stanley Cups since the Leafs last made it to the finals in 1967. A cup ring in each finger while those twits in Toronto are still worshipping their soft and overpaid pretty boys.
Crew cuts Straight sticks Black and white tv Most goalies still without masks 4 of 6 teams made the playoffs Win just one round to make the final That was the last time the Leafs won the cup.
The beginning of the end of the Leafs happened years ago, when they bizarrely committed a majority of their salary cap to a small group of highly skilled forwards. That made it literally impossible for them to have any playoff success. In the playoffs you need a deep team with talent spread throughout. You need a Norris Trophy-level defenseman leading a six-deep defense. You need four legitimate lines. You need a Vezina-level goalie.
Mitch Marner wearing an “A” is what’s wrong with the Leafs. His play is not leadership material and he never plays to set an example for others to follow. Yes im a Bs fan but I love the sport and follow it passionately. I enjoy watching Matthews and was a huge Felix Potvin, Mats Sundin, Gilmore fan growing up. Leadership is what’s wrong with this team. Your core is strong in skill but weak in heart! Too much money for regular season success. Marner is the type of player that will fold and break if this team ever makes it to the Cup.
@@carbb5760 except he was never the main player, he was always a support player. All the core players in Toronto, are all support players, none of them are star materials with clutch.
This is what you get when so much of your salary budget goes to so few. This is when the supporting cast should be stepping up. That supporting group would not be able to hit a barn door with the puck. Meanwhile the Bruins are rolling four disciplined lines that are playing a defensive game with purpose.
What supporting cast? They're rolling out with Reaves and he should've disappeared from the league after his stint with Las Vegas, let alone the Rangers. They'd be better off looking for vet min guys from the NFL and NBA that can skate.
We saw enough a few years ago. They signed Willy to 11.5 and he immediately stopped producing. How a team can suck so bad for so long boggles rational thinkers.
There are millions and millions of people around the world starving, being killed, and abused every second of the day, and here we are worry about some millionaires putting skates and enjoying themselves. THAT is PATHETIC!
I know this may make you gag, but the Bruins are the better team, especially their defense and goaltending. Anything is possible as far as a comeback, but it's highly unlikely.
the problem is that every single team they played in playoffs is better than them. like sorry 11 playoff games straight in which they scored 2 or less goals. They cant score at all in the playoffs. team based on offense and cant score in playoffs is a disaster.
Its about heart....and the Leafs have no heart. Their core four are individuals, not team players...and that starts with Matthews...and bleeds to the rest of them. They have zero heart...and in playoff hockey...you need heart. Watch Marchand...like him or hate him....he plays with heart.@@theold4734
@theold4734 are we watching the same game? The Bruins have #1 goalies, have shut down scoring and Leafs PP has disappeared. The hits are pretty much equal.
Sad thing is, you know when Marner gets traded he turns into an assist god. It's so frustrating. Maple Leafs AND Man United fan here they are like the same teams.
There's no doubt the Leafs are a broken team, and as much as I hope they will win a 2024 Stanley Cup, they are unlikely to get anywhere NEAR that late round. Should the Leafs lose their current playoff series hopefully: - Keith Pelley, CEO of Leafs' ownership group MLSE, will end Brandon Shanahan's club presidency after a 10th season, doing so effective no later than the week after that playoff exit has occurred - a break-up of the AM34-Marner-Nylander-Rielly-Tavares quintet will occur
I am starting to think that I may not live long enough to see the Leafs win a cup in my life. I was 3yrs old the last time the leafs won the cup. Time is not on my side, I may need to live to a ripe old age, with little to no body function control.
it's been 8 years. EIGHT YEARS. The management is literally insane to think this will ever work. They haven't even come close to making it to the conference finals and have only made it past the first round once (in a series where they were outplayed in almost every game). It doesn't get much more embarrassing than this team.
Same ol Same ol. Defense is poor, goaltending is always 2nd to the other teams goaltending, the 40 + million a year offence goes dry in the playoffs and we are always out coached.
Keefe, Marner, and Tavares first ones to go. NTC don't mean a thing. Once the GM tells the player he's no longer part of their plans, the player will come up with a list of teams he will agree to go to. If they refuse to waive their NTC, then the player gets marginalized by the team and their career nose dives.
no team would take on Tavares contract, and no team will give you anything of value for Marner without Marner signing an extension first (which he won't do if he thinks he may be traded as he will just go to free agency and pick the team he wishes to play for)
As a devil fan and a hockey fan, I can tell you the issues. It's defense and goalie!! We have the same issues!! NJ devils need a new defensive system and so do the leafs.
lol I’m a devils fan to lol yes Defence and goalies are their issue! Also seen them win 3 times technically the first one I was to young but 1999-2000 and 02-03 I remember fondly
This leafs team is no different than last year's club against Florida. Up against a playoff ready team who plays physical, fights for the puck along the boards . The leafs fluff four decide not to compete. The team issue is with those four players. That's where all the money is invested
JT should have stayed in Long Island. He showed who he really was when all that went down. I like JT, a hard worker, but not a veteran when it comes to leading a team deep in the playoffs.
Why did Mathews not play was he so pissed off that they were told to loose? Why is it that the goalies that suck in Toronto become superstars on other teams, If I player would come out to say this he would be finished, and the house of cards would come down. It is a business when you can go just across the border and see the leafs on any other team in Buffalo for $20. IT IS A BUSINESS, I feel sorry for all the Toronto Players who have to be fantastic players to fake it. Kinda like the Wrestlers in the WWE.
START NEW THE CORE 4 GOTTA GO KEEFE GOTTA GO NOW, GET A GOALTENDER GENIUSES NOW!!! THIS TEAM IS NOT A TEAM NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM, NOT A TEAM PERIOD MILLION DOLLAR BUMS!!!! LIKE EVERY YEAR THE SAME RESULT!!!
Last night before the game they showed clips of Bob Cole and on those clips you saw players with heart and guts such as Gilmore Clarke potvan wregett sundine ect. There is no one on this leafs team whit any heart or guts
History shows they can force a game 7… but do they have what it takes, or will they break the cycle in a bad way (i.e. losing to Boston in less than 7 games for the first time since long before the lockout) They must scratch Reaves (who is primarily responsible for the 1st Boston goal) and put in Connor Dewar, and start Joseph Woll
Yup, tear it down. Fire Keefe and Shanny and trade Marner, Samsonoff and Broady. Then you have 20 mil to get a number one goaltender, a solid D man and bring in Quenville to coach. I can't believe that Keefe would put out the 4th line with 3 minutes to go!
Toronto has a lot of scoring potential, but You need a goalie 🥅 in the playoff’s. The best player on a playoff team HAS to be the goalie, or you won’t make it past the second round..!
You glossed over the reason, a perfect example for why they lose in the playoffs. 2 of the leafs best players have missed 3 games and a vital 3rd period with a headache and stomachache. Bruins player especially their leaders play through pain and injury in the playoffs if possible. Too many to name. Heart, intensity, urgency, intelligence are all missing from the leafs and has been for years.
I hate playoff results but I hate the stuff said. Do you know why Nylander was out? Now, Matthew's time was cut and he was hardly skating so you can guess he was sick because you saw it.
@@S_67F reality sucks. Hate playoff results. WTF is that. Guy plays all year then out for the playoffs. Whatever it is, the point is toughness in the playoffs. Not fighting, winning puck battles. Playing hard, tough and smart. The leafs have proven they don't have it...for years now.
@@davidmowry8951 Their play is for shit. But don't tell me Nylander decided to turn into a princess after 82 games. Now Matthews ....I'd love to hear the story but I wish Bill Belichick or Urban Meyer could have him 😕
@@LucicPower And if I was coach I'd be screaming that at them! I would love to know if there are League rules for spreadable shit? Especially after COVID🤔
The leafs are able to crush middling teams in the regular season on the back of individual performances, they playoffs where individuals don’t make as much of an impact as a full team effort, they evaporate
The Leafs have these superstars but in actuality are a middling team themselves. Look at the regular season standings. All the other Canadian teams that made the post season have more points.
Beginning of the end for Shanahan who should have been removed for hiring Babcock. The Leafs need a system that stretches from the AHL to the NHL like so many other teams. They don't develop talent, at all. Woll and Lily are the only players who've come up through the system and contribute regularly. The management needs to go. You can only play the exact same plays over and over and over before other teams catch on.
I'm a lifetime Bruins fan. The series is not over. Don't count your team out yet. The Leafs are a great team...I just think the pressure is too great. They have playoff anxiety.
This is the first analysis of the game that I've seen that mentions even the possibility of a Leafs comeback. If that happens, a lot people ranting about this team right now will be idiots.
I made a point of not watching a single second of Leaf hockey this season, and I swore I would not watch the playoffs unless they made it to the conference finals. Maybe I'll see some of them on the golf course later this week...
@@bogeybichon7000 ..really? Look back at the last game of the season against TB. Bystander skated away from the TB D man and headed to the bench. Not even a poke check. The D man then passes down the ice for TB’s 5th goal of the game. That’s why Bystander was sat out.
Mathews sat out the third period. Are you kidding me. Patrice bergeron played with a punctured lung. Tkachuk played with broken bones. I think mathews quit on the team becaue they where down 3-0. A player with heart wouldnt sit out the third because of a sore tummy.
The Leafs are done because their coach won't demand his team to fix their lack of defence. They bunch up, all going for the puck in one spot and get in each other's way, while the opposing team remains spread out so they can pass it to each other, and not collide with each other. Also, when the Leafs are on the defensive and boxed in, they will just stand still and watch the other team pass it to each other, instead of skating towards the opposing player with the puck and forcing him to shoot the puck too early to be of any use. This has been going on for years. First step for improvement is to fire their entire coaching staff.
Auston matthews is a layer ANY team would love to have. However, Auston is a Scotty Pippen type personality. Maple Leafs need that charging Number 1 player that Auston can play behind and not have to worry about carrying the team.
The Leafs are structured to be a good regular season team and they are. All the seats in the arena are filled. Fans are thrilled by the individual exploits of the stars in the regular season. Next year will be no different. The 25/26 season is the time both Marner and Tavares have their contracts come to an end. MLSE will then have to make the choice on whether to enjoy the regular season success or be serious about the playoffs. $20 million dollars should be at least a good start on building a playoff team. As a Montreal fan I hope MLSE choses to run it back again.
The league needs to make a miniature version of the cup just for the Leafs, awarded for making it past the first round. Then it can be used to hold the tears after they fail in the 2nd round. I mean they went 19 years not making it past first round before the whole "WE WANT FLORIDA" bullshit, they gonna make it a 20 year streak this time? This entire team is softer than baby poop
Coaching staff has got to be replaced. Bottom of the league in team D special teams have been atrocious. Bring in Dale Hunter or Adam Oates. We need a true #1 Goalie, and D core. Tavares only has one more year on that albatross of a contract. Then offer him 2 million tops for a following year. These kids need to grow up!!
Edmonton is the next cup dynasty if the Mathews trade is done. Mathews & Hyman as part of Oilers core would bring the cup back to Edmonton. Do whatever it takes to make the trade. Get it done & move forward in Edmonton 👍
Im a Bruins fan but this leaf team is a huge mystery. We watched a very explosive leaf offence all winter. Perhaps one of the best. Loaded with talent. They turned it on for 15 minutes in the 3rd. Surely by now they should know that wont work. I have no answer. Were not even told why the top paid player in the league couldnt play the 1st 3 games. Yet we see him skating in the practices with no sense of being injured...joking and smiling. More mystery..sadly they've become more a drama series than a hockey series. Go leafs go in game 5. Show the hockey world your true potential.
The parallels between the Leafs and the Jays are uncanny. Both have amateur level coaches and terrible management and “star” players who don’t come through when it counts and currently can barely muster 2 goals/runs or less per game.
A lot to unpack here. As usual, the Leafs need to get out of town during playoffs. They are up tight and it is showing. They look as if every stride of skate is because they are trying to catch a bus that's already leaving. They do NOT look relaxed, they look like they are floundering, especially defensively and I have the feeling that it might be in the coaching. ANY team in the NHL right now can take a lesson from the Panthers and their coaching staff. I haven't seen such a consistant team of middle of the road to good players do so well time and time again. They are tough, they don't stop and they are loosey goosey on the ice. Their mindset is, "What can I do this shift to win?" and not "Gee I hope I don't screw up this shift!" They are hesitant on their forechecking and you can tell with the outstretched sticks and them not quite being there on que. I can sure think of a lot of players ahead of Marner that they could trade. Marner is the backbone of that team when it comes to setting up plays. They are overflowing with talent but it hasn't been tempered in the fire the proper way. (Again coaching.) The only thing they can do at this point is to go out in next game and make sure they win every shift... one shift at a time... as a TEAM.
Bro. You're the only one here that's making any sense. Marner has issues, but is such a valuable playmaker that it'd be illogical to trade him. He should be the foundation, and everything else should go except Knies. Signing Tavares and the Willie twice gimped this team.
This team is shit, the core 4 never should have been resigned, Shanaplan is over get rid of everyone from top to bottom and find good hockey people who know how to win, why did the sign the GM from Calgary when we had so many better prospects why do we want Calgary's recycled garbage ? did this guy put a winning team together is Calgary. NELL NO.. Toronto ownership is crap, they don't care about a winning team because they will always fill the seats. until the fans wake up this will never change
The Traditionnal way to build a team start with the goalie than the defense and end with the Offense. Toronto way of doing things start with Offense Fill up the defensewith 1/10 of the Offense budget and hope for the best i.e the goalie will goal on his head and save the leafs when the hard time will cum.
This is sickening...I'm fifty-six and short of the Clark era, they have given us nothing. Marchand does not make the money these four do, but he is ten times the player anyone of these Core-Four are!!! You do not pay four players the contracts these guys got when they are unproven players who have accomplished nothing!!! Regular season stats do not matter, the Stanley Cup matters!!! Get rid of these guys, build a team that has grit, heart, and can play when hurt and even injured. Entitled, kids living in an era that puts no priority on accountability, work ethic, or having to earn and work for something! Disgrace, and Shanahan and Dubas caused this!!!
This core has had the same voice behind the bench for too long. They've gone through just 2 coaches during this cores era. Look what a new coach and nee system can do. A lot of greats won their championship in their 3rd, 4th, 5 coaches. Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos and MacKinnon are all examples of that. Keefe isn't a bad coach by any means, but he's taken this team as far as he can a new voice can make all the difference. I feel the Leafs big issue is they are predictable
Being a Leaf fan is a curse, a cancer. But it also igenerational. The emotional toll has been there since 67 but it now comes with a sizeable monetary toll. It’s extremely expensive to be a Leaf fan . Too many people are , because of “tradition “ or “trendy” . Many of us figured it out years ago that the way for the Leafs to get better is to ignore them . Let them play to a half filled arena, let tv ratings dive, don’t buy their merch. Support another team if needed. I mean everything else has been tried , firing many Gms, coaches, players etc .
The leafs should trade one of their anchor contracts for Hyman they would get a proven playoff performer and free up about 6 million in cap space....ba ha ha
Replacing the coach with a ball buster would make them play harder. Yes the players would hate him, but that’s what this group apparently needs. The fact that they came out harder in the third proves they had it in them to work harder.
Not a leafs fan,but who didn't completely expect this?
Right
Nobody should be surprised. They literally do this ever year.
The biggest mistake the leafs made was paying Matthews, Marnier, Tavares and Nylander those big contracts before they proved themselves in the playoffs. Bad management decision all around.
You could say that and I agree. But to a kid in Toronto getting a jersey with those names on the blue and white maple leaf. Is why the get the big buks. The big stars don’t like Canadian media. And would take a pay cut to stay south. Any team would grovel to have these players. But if you believe enough something special can happen. Look it only took pavelski to take a ghost hit on the chin to rally the sharks come back and beat Vegas. Toronto needs that emotional spark.
I disagree, the biggest mistake the Queefs made was locating the franchise in That toxic s*it hole city of Toronto.
ya think ???
@@blainepotskin1884 not to criticize you...but do you realize how weird that is....the core 3 have taken $100 in salary, cheated on taxes, not been competitive in the playoffs, have every thing one dreams of, private jet, chefs, therapists.... and now it has come down to words people say to them. They are sooooo pampered you can't even ask them a question, and they are soft ball questions. I would ask....why the hell you can't show up for work?... Why don't you pay your taxes ?.
@@blainepotskin1884 players get paid millions so a kid can wear their jersey...? lol what
im starting to appreciate the kessel era more
93 was the last real cup contending team Toronto has had.
Praise Be to The Phil.
Kessel was treated bad, and undeserved
Me too but I hate what they did to Reimer and Kadri
@@SimRacingVeteran I have a picture of the fulll '93 squad and coaching staff with all their names. Norris play off champs
Psssst, no one is gonna trade for those team breaking contracts for players who cannot play in the playoffs. 😂😂
Calgary and Ottawa need stars
They all have NMCs anyways, so........... trading is out of the question. Every one of them, Nylander, Tavares, Marner, Matthews, and Rielly, have full NMCs. They bent this team over, and just had their way with them.
@@eddy5097 LOL... the Sens have more than enought stars already. The last thing they need is another marshmallow who underperforms when games become meaningful.
@@datriaxsondor590I'm sure of you make a few of them offers they will leave. Toronto market is tough to play in if you are on their bad side.
Nonplayoff teams might. I think San Jose cause they dont have muc and aint making the playoffs soon.
No other organization would tolerate this Shanaplan era/regime. One playoff series win with the “core four”.
No grit,heart,will and desire.
At least show up.
I stopped being a fan ten years ago when they lost in game seven to boston. I was done and Im so happy i left. The organization is cursed and will NEVER win! Hockey will be banned bu the coming caliphate before any leafs fans smell a cup!
Buffalo would 1000% lol.
No other organization would tolerate this..... No offense but you're crazy. Every single organization out there would dream of being able to do what this company does with the mediocre product that it offers. Maximum profits and no stress of having to put a good product available for the consumer to consume. This is a gravy train and they would be fools to change it. If any other organization out there was able to get away with this they would do it in a heartbeat. The players and the company are not the problem. It's the fans that are paying the Bills by supporting the team and buying the merchandise and watching the games that are to blame because they will be there with their wallets wide open regardless of the product being offered. If you were a business owner and you were getting the absolute maximum amount of product possible with your current business plan would you change it?
The organization only tolerates it because it's clear the fans will tolerate anything. At this point, the fans are the problem in terms of performance.
lol and the only series they won, they got completely outplayed and won by huge luck
At least Marner finally dropped the gloves.
Right??!!!
We saw enough, this will never work.
The Leafs failed their rebuild, let alone this series and this team
You need men to play a mans game
It would work with Tocchet as coach
@@peterlue9274Their stars (especially Matthews) have attitude issues and aren’t dedicated to winning. They’ve got an $11m 3rd liner. They have zero offensive depth, zero defence, and zero goaltending. It doesn’t matter who the coach is.
again
@@mitchwatts814 I think they have amazing attitudes given they have to listen to a bunch of people who can't do anything close to what they can give their opinion about shit they know nothing about.
“Stop fucking crying Marner… this isn’t fucking junior” - Nylander. Truer words have never been spoken by any of the core 4 before that
That is the lip reading? Wow! Perfect!
As a non Leafs fan, he is now my favorite Leaf.
I saw the last part as "just fucking shoot it"
one playoff style marchand is better than most leaf players combined
Is everyone really shocked at their playoff hockey? Here in the States we knew Toronto would choke. It’s part of their playoff persona. If you’re a Leafs fan…yes I’m laughing at you. 😂😆
You can’t instill character. You can only have it. And it’s not there.
Write that stone. The Bs have it, led by Marchie and Pasta. They play 100%, 100% of the time, forecheck, back check, dive for the puck and hit people! Totally different TEAM.
The Leafs are an elite ringette team
These guys are dreaming of golfing,, lots of talent on this team ... no drive, or heart.
I remember when Daniel Briere said to the Leafs "We are going to the playoffs you are going to the golf course" The Leafs continue to make to playoff and stall.
The die was cast for this team when Sham-ahan fired Lou Lamorello.
and we knew it.
should have signed ohtani....play him tween keon & gilmore....
Totally Agree with you!
When I saw Dubas for the first time I was like what is this take your kid to work day? 😂
Yeah. It was weird. It seemed like the ultimate coup to get Lamarello in the first place, and then they got rid of him. It would be like trading Mario Lemieux after his rookie year.
The Wings went 25 years in the playoffs till they didn’t have anything left. A few bad years and now they’re headed in the right direction again.
I truly believe the Wings will win the cup again before Toronto does.
The fans are the problem. The leafs have no pressure on them to perform other than the pressure they put on themselves which is meaningless because the money keeps rolling in either way. They probably think they are putting pressure on themselves because they really really really want to win a Stanley Cup but that's not real pressure. Empty seats and people tearing up their jerseys is real pressure
Shanahan and Keefe will both be Fired soon after the playoffs ✌️
the should have be gone years ago
The Harold Ballard CURSE continues 😂😂😂😂
I love it when the arrogance of the Leafs bites the dust.
It's an annual tradition.
" GroundHog Year"....
The players are more interested in their pay-cheques
They don't get paid in playoffs.
@@kolasillers7776 It shows
His case in point jackass.
No chemistry a bunch of individual achievers that will never come together. Team has no heart.
Yes, the end of this version of the Leafs is here. They will be dispatched in 5. It's exactly why the Bruins tanked their final two games to get them in the first round. Boston knew that Toronto would be an easy matchup.
Islanders are happy to see Tavares go 😂😂😂
For me, as a Habs fan, this is hilarious!! Why?? Because Toronto has this desire to absolutely crap on Montreal. Why?? Because they can’t handle how many times that Cup that resides in Toronto has made the stroll down St.Catherines street. The day Toronto signed Tavares was the day Toronto went in the wrong direction. When you’re rebuilding, you don’t need to have a player eat up 30% of your cap room that quickly, but Dubas is no longer there. You find the filler around your top players. The lesson to be learned? Watch what Toronto did, and don’t do like them. Pretty fun watching a player come close to scoring 70, but can’t do anything in the playoffs, except disappear?! Good luck Toronto, even though it’s insincere 🤣🤣
We've won 10 Stanley Cups since the Leafs last made it to the finals in 1967.
A cup ring in each finger while those twits in Toronto are still worshipping their soft and overpaid pretty boys.
Crew cuts
Straight sticks
Black and white tv
Most goalies still without masks
4 of 6 teams made the playoffs
Win just one round to make the final
That was the last time the Leafs won the cup.
This
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Leafs dont need to win, they'll sell tickets no matter what. Let's see how theyll start playing with thousands of empty seats
The beginning of the end of the Leafs happened years ago, when they bizarrely committed a majority of their salary cap to a small group of highly skilled forwards. That made it literally impossible for them to have any playoff success. In the playoffs you need a deep team with talent spread throughout. You need a Norris Trophy-level defenseman leading a six-deep defense. You need four legitimate lines. You need a Vezina-level goalie.
If there was EVER a game the Leafs needed to show up, this was it! They didn't and now they need to do what should have been done 5 years ago.
like a dramatic scene in the movie where the main characters is forced to face the music. "I should've done this a long time ago." RIP Leafers.
nah man, it ended in 1967 when they won they're last stanley cup 💀
Mitch Marner wearing an “A” is what’s wrong with the Leafs. His play is not leadership material and he never plays to set an example for others to follow. Yes im a Bs fan but I love the sport and follow it passionately. I enjoy watching Matthews and was a huge Felix Potvin, Mats Sundin, Gilmore fan growing up. Leadership is what’s wrong with this team. Your core is strong in skill but weak in heart! Too much money for regular season success. Marner is the type of player that will fold and break if this team ever makes it to the Cup.
A management style since 1968!
Marner should change his name from Mitch to Bitch because that's what he is.
Keefe should have been got rid of, a long time ago
Tough to coach a bunch of under achievers and overpriced talent
@@marlohamon-lg2pt The core is so soft, and have no clutch. Like a team full of Phil Kessel.
@@melanisticmandalorian8909 I dunno Phil has 3 cups and was probably second choice for playoff mvp in one of those runs
@@carbb5760 except he was never the main player, he was always a support player. All the core players in Toronto, are all support players, none of them are star materials with clutch.
He's not the GM, he's just the coach
This is what you get when so much of your salary budget goes to so few. This is when the supporting cast should be stepping up. That supporting group would not be able to hit a barn door with the puck. Meanwhile the Bruins are rolling four disciplined lines that are playing a defensive game with purpose.
What supporting cast? They're rolling out with Reaves and he should've disappeared from the league after his stint with Las Vegas, let alone the Rangers. They'd be better off looking for vet min guys from the NFL and NBA that can skate.
We saw enough a few years ago. They signed Willy to 11.5 and he immediately stopped producing. How a team can suck so bad for so long boggles rational thinkers.
karma....
The Saddest part is theirs no way a team takes on these inflated contracts knowing they never show up in playoffs. The core 4 is a huge bust.
Core Fore
@@Mr_Spock512nice
There are millions and millions of people around the world starving, being killed, and abused every second of the day, and here we are worry about some millionaires putting skates and enjoying themselves.
THAT is PATHETIC!
Your level of free time should match your level of guilt
I know this may make you gag, but the Bruins are the better team, especially their defense and goaltending. Anything is possible as far as a comeback, but it's highly unlikely.
the problem is that every single team they played in playoffs is better than them. like sorry 11 playoff games straight in which they scored 2 or less goals. They cant score at all in the playoffs. team based on offense and cant score in playoffs is a disaster.
Bruins play a tough mans game. The Leafs are soft
@@Robb912 the soft argument doesn’t work either anymore. It’s all about the core not toughness.
Its about heart....and the Leafs have no heart. Their core four are individuals, not team players...and that starts with Matthews...and bleeds to the rest of them. They have zero heart...and in playoff hockey...you need heart. Watch Marchand...like him or hate him....he plays with heart.@@theold4734
@theold4734 are we watching the same game? The Bruins have #1 goalies, have shut down scoring and Leafs PP has disappeared. The hits are pretty much equal.
Sad thing is, you know when Marner gets traded he turns into an assist god. It's so frustrating. Maple Leafs AND Man United fan here they are like the same teams.
Marners going to the conference finals minimum when he gets traded.
Hey im an leafs and man utd fan too! Sad times for us my friend:(
@@jeremy9717Imagine Marner in NJ 😳
He already is an assist god... The people he's feeding blow.. but somehow its his fault.
he has a no trade contract which may make a trade complicated
as a islander fan and believe it we suck but tavares has never been good in playoffs. you overpaid for him and now u guys see what we saw
Should start rebuilding. The so called core 4 are pathetic
There's no doubt the Leafs are a broken team, and as much as I hope they will win a 2024 Stanley Cup, they are unlikely to get anywhere NEAR that late round. Should the Leafs lose their current playoff series hopefully:
- Keith Pelley, CEO of Leafs' ownership group MLSE, will end Brandon Shanahan's club presidency after a 10th season, doing so effective no later than the week after that playoff exit has occurred
- a break-up of the AM34-Marner-Nylander-Rielly-Tavares quintet will occur
Core Fore! is more appropriate.
@@Mr_Spock512 lol
I am starting to think that I may not live long enough to see the Leafs win a cup in my life. I was 3yrs old the last time the leafs won the cup. Time is not on my side, I may need to live to a ripe old age, with little to no body function control.
cheer up .....i was16 years old............tired of hearing....there is always next year
Most players dream about drinking from the cup. This team dreams about finding the beer girl, and drinking from the cart.
it's been 8 years. EIGHT YEARS. The management is literally insane to think this will ever work. They haven't even come close to making it to the conference finals and have only made it past the first round once (in a series where they were outplayed in almost every game). It doesn't get much more embarrassing than this team.
Same ol Same ol. Defense is poor, goaltending is always 2nd to the other teams goaltending, the 40 + million a year offence goes dry in the playoffs and we are always out coached.
something like ground hog day....different year different players but look the same with same result
Anyone else miss Zach Hymen? Career ending move letting him go.
Keefe, Marner, and Tavares first ones to go. NTC don't mean a thing. Once the GM tells the player he's no longer part of their plans, the player will come up with a list of teams he will agree to go to. If they refuse to waive their NTC, then the player gets marginalized by the team and their career nose dives.
no team would take on Tavares contract, and no team will give you anything of value for Marner without Marner signing an extension first (which he won't do if he thinks he may be traded as he will just go to free agency and pick the team he wishes to play for)
Tavares has a full nmc! He isn't going anywhere
As a devil fan and a hockey fan, I can tell you the issues. It's defense and goalie!! We have the same issues!! NJ devils need a new defensive system and so do the leafs.
They cannot score....that is called offense....not defense.
I thought i read in games 1-3 they beat the Bruins in pretty much all stats bar saves. If you swap the goalies, leafs are 3-1 up right now
Maybe not. They would leave Swayman hung out to dry and still lose… @@Cpchurch87
lol I’m a devils fan to lol yes Defence and goalies are their issue! Also seen them win 3 times technically the first one I was to young but 1999-2000 and 02-03 I remember fondly
This leafs team is no different than last year's club against Florida. Up against a playoff ready team who plays physical, fights for the puck along the boards . The leafs fluff four decide not to compete. The team issue is with those four players. That's where all the money is invested
JT should have stayed in Long Island. He showed who he really was when all that went down.
I like JT, a hard worker, but not a veteran when it comes to leading a team deep in the playoffs.
"Stop me if you've heard this before......."
I wouldn't dream of it. Far too much fun listening to.🤣🤣🤣
Why did Mathews not play was he so pissed off that they were told to loose? Why is it that the goalies that suck in Toronto become superstars on other teams, If I player would come out to say this he would be finished, and the house of cards would come down. It is a business when you can go just across the border and see the leafs on any other team in Buffalo for $20. IT IS A BUSINESS, I feel sorry for all the Toronto Players who have to be fantastic players to fake it. Kinda like the Wrestlers in the WWE.
It's crazy that I'm saying this but the 2013 leafs were better this is embarrassing
When will Leafs fans learn? You know how they define insanity...
START NEW THE CORE 4 GOTTA GO KEEFE GOTTA GO NOW, GET A GOALTENDER GENIUSES NOW!!! THIS TEAM IS NOT A TEAM NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM, NOT A TEAM PERIOD MILLION DOLLAR BUMS!!!!
LIKE EVERY YEAR THE SAME RESULT!!!
Bring in Ken Domik
Bring in Mike Hunt.
zamboni driver?
Hire Mike Myers
lets the marlies play and send the leafs down to the AHL. would be more entertaining than this. they'd try harder too.
The leafs never began Bud.
They paid out $$$$ millions without checking this guy performance after a year...
They are Laughable...
It can’t be the end if there hasn’t been a beginning!
This is not the beginning of the end.. it's the End of the end.
Leafs core four is toast.
Last night before the game they showed clips of Bob Cole and on those clips you saw players with heart and guts such as Gilmore Clarke potvan wregett sundine ect. There is no one on this leafs team whit any heart or guts
History shows they can force a game 7… but do they have what it takes, or will they break the cycle in a bad way (i.e. losing to Boston in less than 7 games for the first time since long before the lockout)
They must scratch Reaves (who is primarily responsible for the 1st Boston goal) and put in Connor Dewar, and start Joseph Woll
Yup, tear it down. Fire Keefe and Shanny and trade Marner, Samsonoff and Broady. Then you have 20 mil to get a number one goaltender, a solid D man and bring in Quenville to coach. I can't believe that Keefe would put out the 4th line with 3 minutes to go!
Toronto has a lot of scoring potential, but You need a goalie 🥅 in the playoff’s. The best player on a playoff team HAS to be the goalie, or you won’t make it past the second round..!
You glossed over the reason, a perfect example for why they lose in the playoffs. 2 of the leafs best players have missed 3 games and a vital 3rd period with a headache and stomachache. Bruins player especially their leaders play through pain and injury in the playoffs if possible. Too many to name. Heart, intensity, urgency, intelligence are all missing from the leafs and has been for years.
I hate playoff results but I hate the stuff said. Do you know why Nylander was out? Now, Matthew's time was cut and he was hardly skating so you can guess he was sick because you saw it.
@@S_67F reality sucks. Hate playoff results. WTF is that. Guy plays all year then out for the playoffs. Whatever it is, the point is toughness in the playoffs. Not fighting, winning puck battles. Playing hard, tough and smart. The leafs have proven they don't have it...for years now.
@@davidmowry8951 Their play is for shit. But don't tell me Nylander decided to turn into a princess after 82 games. Now Matthews ....I'd love to hear the story but I wish Bill Belichick or Urban Meyer could have him 😕
Bergeron played games with a punctured lung
@@LucicPower And if I was coach I'd be screaming that at them! I would love to know if there are League rules for spreadable shit? Especially after COVID🤔
The leafs are able to crush middling teams in the regular season on the back of individual performances, they playoffs where individuals don’t make as much of an impact as a full team effort, they evaporate
The Leafs have these superstars but in actuality are a middling team themselves. Look at the regular season standings. All the other Canadian teams that made the post season have more points.
ITS THE END PERIOD.NOT MAKING PLAYOFFS FROM HERE ON OUT , THEY DONT WIN!!!
FINISHED
Beginning of the end for Shanahan who should have been removed for hiring Babcock.
The Leafs need a system that stretches from the AHL to the NHL like so many other teams. They don't develop talent, at all.
Woll and Lily are the only players who've come up through the system and contribute regularly.
The management needs to go. You can only play the exact same plays over and over and over before other teams catch on.
I'm a lifetime Bruins fan. The series is not over. Don't count your team out yet. The Leafs are a great team...I just think the pressure is too great. They have playoff anxiety.
This is the first analysis of the game that I've seen that mentions even the possibility of a Leafs comeback. If that happens, a lot people ranting about this team right now will be idiots.
I made a point of not watching a single second of Leaf hockey this season, and I swore I would not watch the playoffs unless they made it to the conference finals.
Maybe I'll see some of them on the golf course later this week...
Spoiler Alert: William Bystander was never injured, it was discipline. There will be a new Coach in time for the Draft, and possibly a new President.
there is no way you sit one of your best players for the first three games of the playoffs
william 40 goals.
@@bogeybichon7000 ..really? Look back at the last game of the season against TB. Bystander skated away from the TB D man and headed to the bench. Not even a poke check. The D man then passes down the ice for TB’s 5th goal of the game. That’s why Bystander was sat out.
This team reminds me of this stl blues teams from about 2010-2016. Always had a good regular season but never could make it past the 1st or 2nd round.
Mathews sat out the third period. Are you kidding me. Patrice bergeron played with a punctured lung. Tkachuk played with broken bones. I think mathews quit on the team becaue they where down 3-0. A player with heart wouldnt sit out the third because of a sore tummy.
The Leafs are done because their coach won't demand his team to fix their lack of defence. They bunch up, all going for the puck in one spot and get in each other's way, while the opposing team remains spread out so they can pass it to each other, and not collide with each other. Also, when the Leafs are on the defensive and boxed in, they will just stand still and watch the other team pass it to each other, instead of skating towards the opposing player with the puck and forcing him to shoot the puck too early to be of any use. This has been going on for years. First step for improvement is to fire their entire coaching staff.
everybody wants Keefe gone except the Leafs.
Auston matthews is a layer ANY team would love to have. However, Auston is a Scotty Pippen type personality. Maple Leafs need that charging Number 1 player that Auston can play behind and not have to worry about carrying the team.
The Leafs are structured to be a good regular season team and they are. All the seats in the arena are filled. Fans are thrilled by the individual exploits of the stars in the regular season. Next year will be no different.
The 25/26 season is the time both Marner and Tavares have their contracts come to an end. MLSE will then have to make the choice on whether to enjoy the regular season success or be serious about the playoffs. $20 million dollars should be at least a good start on building a playoff team.
As a Montreal fan I hope MLSE choses to run it back again.
Please tell me when has Tavares ever shown up for playoff hockey in his career?
I loved it the fighting on the bench that one guy talking to himself and the fan's who keep holding hope 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Leafs Rocket Richard Trophy parade is scheduled for Wednesday morning! Papi rolling down Yonge in a golf cart! 😂😂😂
Who the fk is papi
@@LucicPowergoogle it…
@@LucicPowerGoogle it
The league needs to make a miniature version of the cup just for the Leafs, awarded for making it past the first round. Then it can be used to hold the tears after they fail in the 2nd round. I mean they went 19 years not making it past first round before the whole "WE WANT FLORIDA" bullshit, they gonna make it a 20 year streak this time? This entire team is softer than baby poop
Coaching staff has got to be replaced. Bottom of the league in team D special teams have been atrocious. Bring in Dale Hunter or Adam Oates. We need a true #1 Goalie, and D core. Tavares only has one more year on that albatross of a contract. Then offer him 2 million tops for a following year. These kids need to grow up!!
Coaches are becoming weary of working in Toronto
Edmonton is the next cup dynasty if the Mathews trade is done.
Mathews & Hyman as part of Oilers core would bring the cup back to Edmonton. Do whatever it takes to make the trade. Get it done & move forward in Edmonton 👍
Tavares is the common denominator. He's just not a captain.
yet after their 1 win, y'all made videos about the legends on the team and why this year was different lol. Leaf fans are such dramatic homers
Im a Bruins fan but this leaf team is a huge mystery. We watched a very explosive leaf offence all winter. Perhaps one of the best. Loaded with talent. They turned it on for 15 minutes in the 3rd. Surely by now they should know that wont work. I have no answer. Were not even told why the top paid player in the league couldnt play the 1st 3 games. Yet we see him skating in the practices with no sense of being injured...joking and smiling.
More mystery..sadly they've become more a drama series than a hockey series. Go leafs go in game 5. Show the hockey world your true potential.
Just out of curiosity, whats the total cost to attend a leaf game? Parking, tickets, concessions...?
I hope so.
The Leafs needed to acquire a number one defenseman and a number one goalie but salary cap and tough division .
The parallels between the Leafs and the Jays are uncanny. Both have amateur level coaches and terrible management and “star” players who don’t come through when it counts and currently can barely muster 2 goals/runs or less per game.
Captain of what? Veteran of what? A failure team?
“Guys I’ve been through this before..things will …not be alright” - captain tavares
A lot to unpack here. As usual, the Leafs need to get out of town during playoffs. They are up tight and it is showing. They look as if every stride of skate is because they are trying to catch a bus that's already leaving. They do NOT look relaxed, they look like they are floundering, especially defensively and I have the feeling that it might be in the coaching. ANY team in the NHL right now can take a lesson from the Panthers and their coaching staff. I haven't seen such a consistant team of middle of the road to good players do so well time and time again. They are tough, they don't stop and they are loosey goosey on the ice. Their mindset is, "What can I do this shift to win?" and not "Gee I hope I don't screw up this shift!" They are hesitant on their forechecking and you can tell with the outstretched sticks and them not quite being there on que. I can sure think of a lot of players ahead of Marner that they could trade. Marner is the backbone of that team when it comes to setting up plays. They are overflowing with talent but it hasn't been tempered in the fire the proper way. (Again coaching.) The only thing they can do at this point is to go out in next game and make sure they win every shift... one shift at a time... as a TEAM.
Bro. You're the only one here that's making any sense. Marner has issues, but is such a valuable playmaker that it'd be illogical to trade him. He should be the foundation, and everything else should go except Knies. Signing Tavares and the Willie twice gimped this team.
Does not matter what any of them do in the regular season for any team...playoffs will be different 😢😢😢😢
The Leafs need a “Core TEAM” not a “Core FOUR”. The problem is the playoffs a full of good teams not cores!!
Correction: it's Core Fore! ...
@@Mr_Spock512 dude that’s funny 😂😂
This team is shit, the core 4 never should have been resigned, Shanaplan is over get rid of everyone from top to bottom and find good hockey people who know how to win, why did the sign the GM from Calgary when we had so many better prospects why do we want Calgary's recycled garbage ? did this guy put a winning team together is Calgary. NELL NO..
Toronto ownership is crap, they don't care about a winning team because they will always fill the seats. until the fans wake up this will never change
but the fans woke up years ago... they have no power to change anything. It's a song and dance with mngmnt and the players dancing and singing.
I thought we should of broke the core 4 up last year and when Dubas was let go so should of Shannahan and Keefe but then what do i know ?
The Traditionnal way to build a team start with the goalie than the defense and end with the Offense. Toronto way of doing things start with Offense Fill up the defensewith 1/10 of the Offense budget and hope for the best i.e the goalie will goal on his head and save the leafs when the hard time will cum.
Leafs is the only team that everyone wants to score individually . There is a lack of teamwork..
This is sickening...I'm fifty-six and short of the Clark era, they have given us nothing. Marchand does not make the money these four do, but he is ten times the player anyone of these Core-Four are!!! You do not pay four players the contracts these guys got when they are unproven players who have accomplished nothing!!!
Regular season stats do not matter, the Stanley Cup matters!!! Get rid of these guys, build a team that has grit, heart, and can play when hurt and even injured. Entitled, kids living in an era that puts no priority on accountability, work ethic, or having to earn and work for something!
Disgrace, and Shanahan and Dubas caused this!!!
This core has had the same voice behind the bench for too long. They've gone through just 2 coaches during this cores era. Look what a new coach and nee system can do. A lot of greats won their championship in their 3rd, 4th, 5 coaches. Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos and MacKinnon are all examples of that. Keefe isn't a bad coach by any means, but he's taken this team as far as he can a new voice can make all the difference. I feel the Leafs big issue is they are predictable
Being a Leaf fan is a curse, a cancer.
But it also igenerational.
The emotional toll has been there since 67 but it now comes with a sizeable monetary toll. It’s extremely expensive to be a Leaf fan . Too many people are , because of “tradition “ or “trendy” .
Many of us figured it out years ago that the way for the Leafs to get better is to ignore them . Let them play to a half filled arena, let tv ratings dive, don’t buy their merch. Support another team if needed. I mean everything else has been tried , firing many Gms, coaches, players etc .
FIRE THEM ALL NOW !!! KEEFE, SHANAHAN, TREVLING AND TRADE MARNER HES POSION.
FEW OTHERS.
The leafs should trade one of their anchor contracts for Hyman they would get a proven playoff performer and free up about 6 million in cap space....ba ha ha
Replacing the coach with a ball buster would make them play harder. Yes the players would hate him, but that’s what this group apparently needs. The fact that they came out harder in the third proves they had it in them to work harder.
A coach like Babcock?