Toronto Maple Leafs Management Has Spoken ... A New Era Begins

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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
  • Steve Dangle breaks down everything CEO Keith Pelley, President Brendan Shanahan & GM Brad Treliving had to say in regards to the Toronto Maple Leafs offseason plans.
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  • @SteveDangle
    @SteveDangle  13 днів тому +59

    What changes do you think the Leafs need to make? Might make a video with the best / most creative answers 😉

    • @aaccount547
      @aaccount547 13 днів тому +6

      I think they need to get another goalie, I think Woll would be a good fit for starting and Dennis Hilldebey as backup but in case that doesn't work out or Woll for some reason isn't ready for starting goalie they should get another goalie during free agency.
      PS: I don't see Samsonov coming back, the Leafs should let him go tbh

    • @TinmanCards
      @TinmanCards 13 днів тому +12

      Trade Marner and Johnny T

    • @dylanp4706
      @dylanp4706 13 днів тому +3

      Both parties have a NMC to work around but since Marner is kinda the odd man out I’d like to see a trade with Isles. Marner for Sorokin and Dobson

    • @jeanclaude.transam
      @jeanclaude.transam 13 днів тому +2

      I honestly think Marner,Tavares and Sammy should go. For what exactly? We NEED a solid goalie and some defensive depth.

    • @jp783
      @jp783 13 днів тому +6

      They obviously need a God damned all star goalie who can make his starts in the playoffs on top of a good d corp and good forward group. Then pay off the commissioner. lol Ya know, pro sports is fucking rocket science.

  • @Wayf4rer
    @Wayf4rer 13 днів тому +472

    The fact Shanahan still has a job is ludicrous. MLSE doesn't care about winning, just wringing as much money out of the fans as possible.

    • @alltheworldsastage.
      @alltheworldsastage. 13 днів тому +9

      Why do you deposit cash to support this team

    • @daniellydford6142
      @daniellydford6142 13 днів тому +14

      @@alltheworldsastage. If you watch the games on any of the legal Canadian feeds you are paying MLSE.

    • @honestmovietalk
      @honestmovietalk 13 днів тому

      Sadly, it's a company after all. They didnt buy the Leafs hoping to make them win, they bought the Leafs as in investment to make more money. I dont think (sadly again) that they really care about the Cup

    • @thataintrightisit
      @thataintrightisit 13 днів тому +6

      I actually don’t think that’s true. I used to, but honestly think of how much money the raptors generated by winning? Champ merch, more games, all around exposure. Stale play isn’t a good business model. I just think it’s incompetence lol

    • @gibberish5388
      @gibberish5388 13 днів тому +11

      You realize winning would make them more money right?

  • @ChrisMolyneaux93
    @ChrisMolyneaux93 13 днів тому +135

    "We don't care about selling jerseys, we care about winning."
    I'll believe it when I see it.

    • @samspade4050
      @samspade4050 12 днів тому +4

      Well jersey selling is a must because after every first round exit leaf fans burn their jerseys and have to buy new in the fall

    • @user-gw5wg2jf9c
      @user-gw5wg2jf9c 12 днів тому

      the only teams Austin mstthews ever beat were community colleges over at usa hockey haha. #Toronto #Canada toe drag don't work in any playoffs bro

    • @floxy20
      @floxy20 11 днів тому

      @@samspade4050 Very clever of them (chortle chortle).

    • @jeffsframe9927
      @jeffsframe9927 10 днів тому

      That’s a number one lie. It’s ALL about selling jerseys.

    • @yvesmorier1370
      @yvesmorier1370 9 днів тому

      so why dont they lower the price on jerseys and the concession price inside the arena
      because eveyday joe cannot afford to go see games anymore its become a rich man tickets
      im from Montreal and i used to go see games regularly in the 90s and 00s now cannot afford to its ridiculus

  • @AlexAnteroLammikko
    @AlexAnteroLammikko 13 днів тому +72

    Woll spraining his back carrying this team is appropriate.

  • @kates6876
    @kates6876 13 днів тому +159

    This was great. 3 different GMs and a multitude of coaches have taken the heat for Shanahan's decisions over the last 10 years. They have answered all of the questions day in and day out. They have lost their jobs. The fact that Shanahan is still there is shocking.

    • @snakecharmer3587
      @snakecharmer3587 13 днів тому +5

      Without shanny the leafs still would be a crappy regular season team

    • @kates6876
      @kates6876 13 днів тому +6

      @@snakecharmer3587 Honestly, I don't begrudge Shanahan all of the good he has done. I just don't think a good leader holds everyone around him accountable for the failure of his own vision while refusing to make adjustments.

    • @snakecharmer3587
      @snakecharmer3587 13 днів тому +2

      @@kates6876 I think it’s more complicated then people think or the leafs would have won since 67 . Shanny has connections around the league and is a multiple Stanley cup winner and hall of famer . Leafs fans need to just be quiet. They don’t know what a winner looks like

    • @kates6876
      @kates6876 13 днів тому +4

      @@snakecharmer3587 Agreed. I honestly don't care that the Leafs haven't won the Stanley Cup. It's more about showing progress. More teams mean it is harder every year. But by your logic, no one should have been fired to this point. It was hard for all of the coaches and GMs who work/have worked for Shanahan. They all have been held accountable, either by losing their jobs or by speaking to the media daily.

    • @user-gw5wg2jf9c
      @user-gw5wg2jf9c 12 днів тому

      the only teams Austin matthews ever beat were community colleges over at usa hockey haha. #Toronto #Canada toe drag don't work in any playoffs bro #ford #nhl #hockey #Austinmatthews #Molson #Labatt

  • @ClaremontClassicGarage
    @ClaremontClassicGarage 13 днів тому +20

    My race car has 4 tires and 20 lug nuts. Imagine if I kept changing my 20 lug nuts over and over hoping for a different result when all the while I needed 4 new tires. That's what the Leafs have been doing for the last few years.

    • @scarbourgeoisie
      @scarbourgeoisie 12 днів тому

      As a car guy, I want to endorse this comment.

  • @scottwill19
    @scottwill19 13 днів тому +50

    I’m so sick of this “I just got here” nonsense.
    When new management comes in in most other places the new guy usually goes “I didn’t hire you, I want my own guys that I pick in there” and does sweeping firings in the rest of management.

  • @DinnerBells
    @DinnerBells 13 днів тому +49

    “We don’t care about selling jerseys.”
    If only I believed that 😭

    • @rockinrodlittle
      @rockinrodlittle 12 днів тому +1

      They care about selling jerseys AND ball caps

  • @tomdixon1213
    @tomdixon1213 13 днів тому +101

    Brendan, its time to go. Anybody can be replaced. The bullshit logic that it would be a bad time to jettison him, due to needing stability, doesn’t stand after ten years of Brendan’s con artistry.😊

    • @nicks.6341
      @nicks.6341 13 днів тому +2

      Yup. It's absolutely ridiculous to listen to Shanny's words while he refuses to man up and gracefully resign. Par for the course in Leaf Land, I guess..

  • @georgeblair3894
    @georgeblair3894 13 днів тому +65

    "Change is coming"....fires a secretary. Tell me you're about the bottom line ($ NOT winning a SC) without telling me you're about the bottom line.

    • @Jrodsly
      @Jrodsly 13 днів тому +5

      Even worse is immature fans defending the decision to keep the losing president in charge like it'll actually get them something. Maybe they have financial interest in Shanahan's career, but even that isn't much of an excuse since you'd think they'd want him to, you know, WIN.

  • @jamiesucie2685
    @jamiesucie2685 13 днів тому +76

    How does the phrase go? “What’s the definition of insanity?….”

    • @liiilliil3297
      @liiilliil3297 13 днів тому

      Doing the same thing over and over again

    • @stewdumplings7847
      @stewdumplings7847 13 днів тому

      That's not correct at all.

    • @MO_Disk
      @MO_Disk 13 днів тому

      it doesn't. nobody ever said that.

    • @adrianeckert6529
      @adrianeckert6529 13 днів тому +2

      Einstein I think. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the definition of insanity?

    • @teapea8184
      @teapea8184 13 днів тому +2

      Leafs trying to convince others they are a cup contender.

  • @dhunter1133
    @dhunter1133 13 днів тому +26

    As someone who follows the Leafs as my "other team," the Leafs have plenty of talent but collectively have no heart. They don't EXPECT to win; they HOPE they win.

  • @badm0t0rf1ng3r
    @badm0t0rf1ng3r 13 днів тому +179

    Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

    • @dalisllama
      @dalisllama 13 днів тому +6

      New goal song

    • @tryingtobefairandobjective3480
      @tryingtobefairandobjective3480 13 днів тому +1

      Sorry. You will get fooled again.

    • @badm0t0rf1ng3r
      @badm0t0rf1ng3r 13 днів тому +3

      @@tryingtobefairandobjective3480 by Who?

    • @Rob-oy2hr
      @Rob-oy2hr 13 днів тому +1

      Won't get fooled again perfect song for leaf fans.

    • @Alexdenomme
      @Alexdenomme 13 днів тому +3

      My father would be so proud. His favourite band being quoted as a critique of his passion. Wanting this team to win a damn cup.

  • @Bella_Malk
    @Bella_Malk 13 днів тому +142

    Are Leafs moving to Major League Hockey

    • @jorssu13
      @jorssu13 13 днів тому +19

      Nah, they're moving to the PGA tour

    • @wolverinefangowings
      @wolverinefangowings 13 днів тому +5

      ​@@jorssu13*European Tour so they can win the Ryder Cup

    • @TiggaTrey
      @TiggaTrey 13 днів тому +3

      @@jorssu13 facts any time someone asks what the maple leafs are just tell them theyre a golf club

    • @Aaaaa69999
      @Aaaaa69999 13 днів тому +2

      MLH only has 30m cap hit unfortunately

  • @kristinawrites238
    @kristinawrites238 13 днів тому +11

    My biggest takeaway from that press conference is they are saying the right things, whether they do them or not? Who the hell knows. At this point I’m just tired of the excuses, I want to see change. Real change, not just lipstick on the pig.

  • @DharmYogi
    @DharmYogi 13 днів тому +21

    If accountability is on shanahan then why did keefe gets fired

    • @nicks.6341
      @nicks.6341 13 днів тому +4

      That's the million dollar+ question.

    • @boomer1049
      @boomer1049 13 днів тому +1

      Because I think Brendan hired him and now he took responsibility and fired him!😂😂😂

    • @isaacfernandes560
      @isaacfernandes560 12 днів тому +1

      Because Keefe is a horrible coach and should never had the job in the first place. Shanahan is accountable because over 10 years all his decisions failed.

  • @atpyro7920
    @atpyro7920 13 днів тому +17

    I’m stealing “poop on velcro” as a phrase now, thanks Steve.

  • @briancharters8720
    @briancharters8720 13 днів тому +9

    Anybody out there actually think you can install GRIT, GUTS, a WORK ETHIC in a bunch of millionaires??? 😂😂😂

    • @hogztcp239
      @hogztcp239 13 днів тому

      In all honesty, most millionaires are where they are because of hard work, blood, sweat and tears. I've seen very little of it from people sitting at home on welfare complaining that they aren't rich, popular or powerful.
      There are certainly some millionaires out there that are pathetic, but most of them are on Instagram or onlyfans and are simply milking a market that is willingly throwing money at them.
      Don't paint with too wide a brush.

    • @segagenesis9096
      @segagenesis9096 13 днів тому

      Austin was sick and he still came back to play and don't tell me he had a cold or food poisoning. That is grit.

    • @James-nv1wf
      @James-nv1wf 11 днів тому

      Guys that win the cup are also millionaires, they just have fans that don't see them as godlike before winning anything so they need to prove it.

  • @opleafsbaby5810
    @opleafsbaby5810 13 днів тому +5

    Just the fact that Shanahan still has a job proves that they are not serious

  • @dominickdominickc6719
    @dominickdominickc6719 13 днів тому +10

    President Brendan Shanahan needs to fire himself because the condition of the Maple Leafs is on him (his own words).

  • @CC-pj7iy
    @CC-pj7iy 13 днів тому +19

    I'm just really unsure of what the point of having a GM is if Shanahan is only going to greenlight moves he wants. Even when Dubas (who everyone apparently hates now) wanted to move off the core, Shanahan not only prevented that but actively worked against it and fired him. When Keefe was wanting different pieces to build a different toolset for utilizing different systems, he was given more of the same. Both Dubas and Keefe had to go, but let's not act like they were getting the moves they were asking for.
    Shanahan has to go. Don't replace him. Let Treliving go wild and a new coach force a new culture onto this team unimpeded by an overseer. Pelley can make sure the numbers make sense.

    • @kates6876
      @kates6876 13 днів тому +8

      The Staff and Graph podcast talked about how Dubas couldn't get in touch with Shanahan during trade season, leading to the Leafs losing opportunities to make trades. The more we talk about this, the more upset I am that everyone else is a scapegoat for the Shanaplan. The press conference hanging Dubas out to dry was unnecessary and feels particularly egregious the more we learn.

    • @lzrdwzrd999
      @lzrdwzrd999 13 днів тому +3

      I dunno why Dubas gets all the hate. His style didn't work out for Toronto, but how much of that was his moves and how much of that was management behind the curtains?
      I'm not sure we will ever get the full truth of it until all parties involved are out of the mgmt sphere.

    • @kates6876
      @kates6876 13 днів тому +3

      @@lzrdwzrd999 Agreed. It seems pretty clear that keeping the core 4 and staying the course was Shanahan. Dubas is just the one who was held accountable for it. Then Shanahan came out and said exactly what Dubas said last year with zero accountability.

    • @randysgutful
      @randysgutful 11 днів тому

      @@kates6876 Dubas bought his own ticket out of town when he gave his unadvised press conference last year. Lets not pretend he didnt openly muse about quitting for the sake of his family, lets not also not forget he said it was Toronto or nowhere and then days later moves to Pittsburgh. He had that gig in his back pocket and made a power play for Shanahans job and Shanny said nah. He was the author of his own demise, and the fact that Shanahan should have been canned at the same doesn't make Dubas any less culpable for his own firing. MLSE should have cleaned house.

  • @MrMo-kk4xr
    @MrMo-kk4xr 13 днів тому +4

    What I have learned of my time wirkung in Marketing IS... Never trust anything someone of Marketing IS saying 😅🤷🏻‍♂️
    The decision to keep Shanny IS mindblowing to me. IT Shows you, in my opinion it is Not about Winning... The sentence about "WE are Not here to sell tickets ..." Is just smart marketing

  • @jimmydigiovanni3841
    @jimmydigiovanni3841 13 днів тому +5

    Flyers fans watching this - “Hey! I’ve seen this one!”
    Maple leafs fans - “what do you mean it’s brand new”

  • @KBroly
    @KBroly 13 днів тому +7

    "Winning Championships can sell many jerseys" - Homer Simpson

  • @theepicone9995
    @theepicone9995 13 днів тому +12

    I saw a report title that says it all, "We Need Change, Not Empty Words"

  • @funstarr
    @funstarr 13 днів тому +33

    Leafs management are a bunch of cowards. They don't have the imagination it the courage to make the necessary change

    • @melvynobrien6193
      @melvynobrien6193 13 днів тому

      FIRE THAT FECKER SHANAHAN

    • @billboggs6641
      @billboggs6641 13 днів тому +3

      They know exactly what they're doing. Richest franchise in the league. Saps keep buying tickets and merchandise. Corporate honchos continue to spend millions entertaining clients in their private boxes. Everybody is rich and happy. Why change anything ?

    • @floxy20
      @floxy20 11 днів тому

      @@billboggs6641 Calculate the money generated by one home game in the playoffs. It all goes to ownership.

  • @gordonmacdowell8117
    @gordonmacdowell8117 13 днів тому +4

    I just wanted to thank you for giving shelter to so many hockey fans out there. I yell and swear illogically at the TV like any other infuriated hockey fan, but my girlfriend says that at least I don't get as worked up as that guy from Toronto. 🤣 You may not know it but you're helping a lot of hockey fans manage their outrage at their teams and officiating, and how their non-hockey fan girlfriends and wives regard them.

  • @johnwilkesboothslastleg1957
    @johnwilkesboothslastleg1957 13 днів тому +98

    Steve Dangle has spoken... A new hockey league begins

    • @honestmovietalk
      @honestmovietalk 13 днів тому +36

      May the meme live forever

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 13 днів тому +12

      Hahaha that was ridiculous

    • @tryingtobefairandobjective3480
      @tryingtobefairandobjective3480 13 днів тому +6

      He is offering to you your annual Kool-Aid. If you think he know anything you don't, drink more Kool-Aid.

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 13 днів тому +4

      @@tryingtobefairandobjective3480 Holy smokes man try English!

  • @zoso4rune504
    @zoso4rune504 13 днів тому +5

    The Bruins couldn't Move Coyle because who in the world want to pay 5.5 million for a fourth line center. Same goes for Marner, what team would be stupid enough to pay someone 11 million for two 30 goal seasons. The Leafs are stuck with him for the life of his contract, unless they buy him out. The major problem the Leasf have is 52% of their salary cap it tied up in 4 players. So it the 4 players do not produce, there is no supporting cast to back them up.

  • @Jake_Broer
    @Jake_Broer 13 днів тому +6

    I'm surprised Shanahan is still employed there. It's been 10+ years. His fingerprints are all over this team. His influence has allowed this culture to continue.
    If he isn't fired, then the Leafs will not move on past the "failures" label that has been put on them, by their own actions.

  • @markcarew6724
    @markcarew6724 13 днів тому +21

    I recall several identical news conferences from the Maple Leafs in 1984, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1999, 2004 when I stopped being a Leafs fan. 2024 news conference - blah blah blah.

    • @plasticsurgerydisaster6180
      @plasticsurgerydisaster6180 13 днів тому +4

      This right here. 2019 was it for me, I still pay attention to the news cause let’s face it it’s a train crash you can’t look away from.

  • @craigharrison5406
    @craigharrison5406 13 днів тому +19

    From what I saw and heard yesterday, nothing is changing. I'll believe it when I see it.

    • @peaceonearth7142
      @peaceonearth7142 13 днів тому

      2 years my friend . Window will close next season but reopen in 2 years trust me .

  • @omarinator2149
    @omarinator2149 13 днів тому +59

    I think our winning move is adding Nazem Kadri back to the team and letting him and reavo run the 1st line

    • @DGENR8.
      @DGENR8. 13 днів тому +9

      ha, what an absolute joke that is. HAHA
      t. Stars fan

    • @TheSkeletor612
      @TheSkeletor612 13 днів тому +1

      Nazem Kadri for a 1st + Cowan 👍

    • @jackmakackov7077
      @jackmakackov7077 13 днів тому

      Ryan Reaves has less than zero respect for Nazim Kadri. They are polar opposites.

    • @felixnuc245
      @felixnuc245 13 днів тому +4

      If Kadri came but that would definitely give the team more playoff success

    • @vileluca
      @vileluca 13 днів тому

      Ew.

  • @alexmoffitt8063
    @alexmoffitt8063 13 днів тому +24

    Love you and your content Steve, hope you’re doing well with all the stress of this time of year. : )

  • @jaystyx5134
    @jaystyx5134 13 днів тому +2

    This is a better breakdown than the press conference! For 1, we can hear this! Lol

  • @KingGrats
    @KingGrats 13 днів тому +5

    How long until the premiere of Brendan Shanahan: An Era Wasted?

  • @mentillist7292
    @mentillist7292 13 днів тому +6

    i don’t even watch press conferences anymore. i get better information from SteveDangle anyway. thanks for the catch up

    • @Sir_Godz
      @Sir_Godz 13 днів тому

      havent watched pressers for a few years now... it became 100% lies so why bother

    • @canadianroot
      @canadianroot 13 днів тому +1

      The volume was on level 1 anyway, so it was impossible to hear. Worse than their usual media scrums.

  • @melvynobrien6193
    @melvynobrien6193 13 днів тому +7

    FIRE SHANAHAN. The Leafs will do as little as possible to change anything. Keefe is gone: big deal. This is all falling in line for another failure next season. FECKING FIRE SHANAHAN. Are these feckers kidding? This Pelley dude will feck up. FECK UP, MOVE UP, like Dubas. FIRE SHANAHAN. Am I repeating myself?

  • @OWlsfordshire
    @OWlsfordshire 13 днів тому +26

    How many years you been saying this, kid?

  • @pilar9247
    @pilar9247 13 днів тому +4

    Brendan Shanahan says the accountability and responsibility is on him, if that were true he would not have a job still. It's up to the fans now. I know fans will continue to go to games so the Maple Leafs front office knows they still get a pass

  • @ronmatthews2164
    @ronmatthews2164 13 днів тому +8

    Craig Berubie will have Matthews, Marner and especially Nylander crying after he lays into them.

    • @BobbyBoucher228
      @BobbyBoucher228 12 днів тому

      If Berube has any Common Sense he’ll stay far away from the Leafs organization. The Leafs are as disfunctional a team as you can possibly get in hockey thinking they can win a Stanley Cup with a team built like an NBA roster with a core 4 taking up almost half of the salary cap. No coach, not even one as good at motivating and getting the best out of his players as Berube could win with a team constructed this poorly. I say it every year that the Leafs roster is flawed in design, yet the Leafs are content beating this dead horse into the ground year in and year out with their core 4.

    • @ronmatthews2164
      @ronmatthews2164 12 днів тому

      @@BobbyBoucher228
      Great points and the core 4 all perform at a way lower level every year in the playoffs.

    • @BobbyBoucher228
      @BobbyBoucher228 11 днів тому

      @@ronmatthews2164 It’s not even the players fault that their performance is worse in the playoffs since they are playing against the most elite teams that can designate their top lines often as shutdown lines and still have enough depth to score goals whereas the Leafs don’t have that luxury due to having so much of their cap tied up in just a few players. Everything wrong with the Leafs is being caused by their bloated contracts to their top players and everything can be fixed if the Leafs ever want to by eliminating some of that cap weight to add more depth to their roster.

  • @kcrowther14
    @kcrowther14 13 днів тому +4

    Been waiting on change since '14..and realistically since '94..ive been a diehard since 93 and I feel that I will never see a Cup in this city

  • @lawrietyson9020
    @lawrietyson9020 11 днів тому

    Great content (from a 75 year old long time Leafs fan in Sotland). Myabe the new voice is giving you more gravitas!

  • @_1989M_
    @_1989M_ 13 днів тому +2

    My heart sincerely goes out to you all. Somehow , the nightmare has worsened. Just omg.

  • @Diademic111
    @Diademic111 13 днів тому +3

    I hope the Leafs can extend Domi because I think he deserves it; he plays with a lot of heart on a team that simply lacks it. I also hope they can keep Bertuzzi, he started slow but he gathered steam as the season went along and he's a battler. We need players like that a lot more than we do any of the 'stars' that vanish as soon as the playoffs begin.

  • @newfoundland1956
    @newfoundland1956 13 днів тому +4

    this is like a company I worked 5 yrs for who went thu in 15 yrs I know of, fired 22 managers and 22 supervisors but the regional manager is still there.... and the company is still rotten

    • @foxlake6750
      @foxlake6750 13 днів тому

      …..was he the owners son-in-law? 😂

  • @ritchiemunn
    @ritchiemunn 13 днів тому +2

    Great content!

  • @orangeduck8898
    @orangeduck8898 13 днів тому

    Great coverage!

  • @people3865
    @people3865 13 днів тому +28

    Nothing is changing lol. Mitch won't waive, Willy, Mo and Mathews all just reupped.
    Its going to be another year of the same before we see changes.

    • @cianhudder7499
      @cianhudder7499 13 днів тому +6

      I think it’s very possible marner waives; clear to me he doesn’t want to be a leaf.

    • @peaceonearth7142
      @peaceonearth7142 13 днів тому +1

      Leafs window will close next year but reopen in 2 years. Marner and Tavares will come off the books . Easton Cowan will come up. Treliving will build a strong big d line and get a more physical team.

    • @AHFP29
      @AHFP29 13 днів тому +1

      why wouldn't mitch waive lol it's basically a guaranteed extension for him at a great number

    • @peaceonearth7142
      @peaceonearth7142 13 днів тому

      @@AHFP29 Mitch ain't waiving his father will not let that happen trust me . They are all about self and not team. Secondly , his value is low right now with his playoff performance and ending the season with an injury. His dad and agent will want him to build up his stock, kinda like Nylander prior to signing his extension. Nylander was the best player in the planet , signed his desk dnd came back down to earth .

    • @AHFP29
      @AHFP29 13 днів тому +4

      @@peaceonearth7142 this is a shockingly dumb take. Willy’s pace was effectively unchanged after the contract, only really dipping when he was moved to a limited third line role towards the end of the season. Mitch knows he isn’t getting extended here - he can facilitate a trade to a market he wants + sign his $12-$13M extension for seven years this summer. Mitigates any risk of going into a contract year without a deal… he’s not going to go through this season without a contract and risk a massive injury or an off season lmaoooo.

  • @user-cq4hc3gq6p
    @user-cq4hc3gq6p 13 днів тому +4

    Doing the hard, dirty thing, is FIRING Shanahan. Get it done!

  • @jgoulet2127
    @jgoulet2127 12 днів тому

    Alright it’s been fun as a bruins fan watching you in shambles the past couple weeks. That’s probably the last vid I watch til we face off again next year so thanks for the laughs!!

  • @rustybrockmann2344
    @rustybrockmann2344 13 днів тому

    Good one, agreed with all your points, thanks for giving voice to the concerns of us Leafs fans.

  • @adudeapart
    @adudeapart 13 днів тому +10

    I had someone point out to me recently that Shanahan probably didn’t fire both Dubas and Keefe last season to keep a scapegoat on hand to buy himself some time.

    • @mrdarkstar3756
      @mrdarkstar3756 13 днів тому

      Good point, but it's the season they finally made the 2nd round, I think most fans were expecting a run back. The contracts, though, were surprising.

  • @DD-sr9xm
    @DD-sr9xm 13 днів тому +6

    Shanny … it’s on me but Kyle paid the price last year and Sheldon gets that honor this year? Just go in and negotiate a nice golden parachute and move on.

  • @joojoojuu2863
    @joojoojuu2863 13 днів тому +32

    Are Leafs moving to Major League Hockey?

  • @KMMHL2012
    @KMMHL2012 13 днів тому +10

    The leafs don't lack the talent or skill.
    They lack in the intangibles, grinding out the boards to win a puck battle, blocking shots, make players scared to gain the blue line, battle in front of the net.
    If you're soft in all those areas, the other teams don't hesitate, flinch, or even get worn down, it's high end no contact beer league hockey.
    Good luck winning a cup with that level of Charmin softness.

    • @cravex06
      @cravex06 13 днів тому +4

      What series did you watch? They were doing all those things the last 3 games. They just can't score and their powerplay sucked.

  • @dolandarkxgrandayy6953
    @dolandarkxgrandayy6953 13 днів тому +5

    Brad Treliving talking about hard sexy things is hilarious.

  • @rdelill7517
    @rdelill7517 13 днів тому +2

    If Rod Brind'Amour becomes available i think he would be a great fit with the leafs

  • @Dirtypollo
    @Dirtypollo 13 днів тому +3

    Brendan Shanahan is somehow under the same union as Angel Hernandez

  • @BHRren
    @BHRren 13 днів тому +3

    he LEafs do not have to get VALUE back for Marner in a trade .The VALUE is the Cap space that they gain ( a couple of " cant miss" defence prospects and a 1st round pick would do it ) .As long as we waives and you get his cap hit off the books that is the name of the game .The UFA pool this summer is full of guys that have been absolute BEASTS in the playoffs recently ( Montour ,Marchesault,Stamkos ,Reinhart and Toffoli just to name a few ) One or more of these guys on the Leafs could carry them over the playoff hump

    • @scarbourgeoisie
      @scarbourgeoisie 12 днів тому

      Exactly. Freeing up Cap Space with a Marner move is all the Leafs require. Marner can walk in a year with no return, let's just move that up by a full season.

  • @shawnpost6669
    @shawnpost6669 13 днів тому +2

    Unsexy ... Our skilled players HAVE to play like they ARE going to get hurt. You rock Steve.

  • @paulgiardetti1579
    @paulgiardetti1579 13 днів тому +1

    I am amazed that the 4 weeks excuse, was used, at that level, you mean when you took the job you didn’t have a vision of what you wanted to do,you were hired as a CEO,

  • @DharmYogi
    @DharmYogi 13 днів тому +5

    Just watch shanahan get a contract next season after second round.

    • @badbob233
      @badbob233 13 днів тому

      If they get a second round win and show progress next season, he'll deserve an extension. Not sure if everyone can remember what Leafs nation was like the day before Shanny was hired. 1995-2015 were twenty tough years, we've now had ten fun ones.

    • @cscansin
      @cscansin 13 днів тому

      99 and 02 had conference final runs and a bunch of fun playoff experiences from 99-04 until the lockout. Even the Muskoka 5 did better than the par 4. shanny to get an extension for a 2nd round expectation is so lackluster and destined for at best... at best 1 cup run with the best goal scorer of our generation who's a selkencandidate. We're forever fucked if that's the best we can do, with all this $ and culture.

    • @johnsmith-ph1if
      @johnsmith-ph1if 12 днів тому

      @@badbob233 Strange definition of fun

  • @joshbehehe
    @joshbehehe 13 днів тому +9

    You know Marner is gona shine once he’s out of Toronto and Austons spotlight

    • @foxlake6750
      @foxlake6750 13 днів тому +3

      Likely…look at Hyman..

    • @youzettasonsofdigits1639
      @youzettasonsofdigits1639 13 днів тому

      That's pretty much a fact. Also a fact that ppl are gonna rag on the Leafs saying yOu sHouLdA kEpt hiM

    • @canadianroot
      @canadianroot 13 днів тому +2

      @@foxlake6750 Hyman is twice the player Marner is.

    • @isaacfernandes560
      @isaacfernandes560 12 днів тому

      @@foxlake6750 Marner won't get the luck of playing on MacDavid's wing.

  • @scottdreger7137
    @scottdreger7137 13 днів тому

    I’m excited for training camp in September. But we have heard some of this before

  • @jesserae87
    @jesserae87 13 днів тому +1

    Love ya stever!❤

  • @alouie001
    @alouie001 13 днів тому +7

    Good vibes since 1959.

  • @IamDaGrouch
    @IamDaGrouch 13 днів тому +23

    When the Leafs get a serious coach, I think Auston Matthews will show his true colours.

    • @SirDeerock
      @SirDeerock 13 днів тому +3

      ...what does this even mean?

    • @jaystyx5134
      @jaystyx5134 13 днів тому

      Yeah,...define true colours..im curious

    • @Shik0njuul934
      @Shik0njuul934 13 днів тому

      He has already been

    • @BrianTheLeafsGuy
      @BrianTheLeafsGuy 13 днів тому +1

      Matthews won the rocket and is nominated for the Selke (best defensive forward)... What more are you expecting from Matthews?

    • @isaacfernandes560
      @isaacfernandes560 12 днів тому

      @@BrianTheLeafsGuy score more than 1G every 7 Playoff games? Sounds reasonable. Have more than 2pts in 7 Playoff games? Sounds reasonable as well. But he'd rather polish his Rocket than put in some hard work. And the Selke? He won't win, Barkov is a hell lot better player than Matthews will ever be!

  • @luigismushrooms5701
    @luigismushrooms5701 13 днів тому +2

    I enjoy the emotional investment people put into games :)

  • @Oli-Wood
    @Oli-Wood 13 днів тому +6

    Can't wait for that 3 on 3 League, lets goooooo

    • @AHFP29
      @AHFP29 13 днів тому +2

      it warms my heart seeing SDPN go belly up... i was rooting for the guys, but they've been dropping the ball and treating people like shit for months (lots of tea out there)

    • @nickfratello4321
      @nickfratello4321 13 днів тому

      @@AHFP29tea such as?

  • @lankancheetah
    @lankancheetah 13 днів тому +4

    Y'all can stop trying to be first. The NSFW bots will beat you to it. 😂

  • @badbob233
    @badbob233 13 днів тому +1

    @Steve what do you think of a Cowan-Minten-Lisowsky fourth line?

  • @thinglizzy2311
    @thinglizzy2311 13 днів тому +15

    Steves like " wait a sec , not everyone listens to the pod , opportunity to cover the same topic again and make more cash " Can't blame you papa dangle

    • @ThatsBadTV
      @ThatsBadTV 13 днів тому +6

      hes gotta capitalize on lost MLH

    • @Deadman012
      @Deadman012 13 днів тому +1

      Tbh he needs to do it since the Leafs don't give him 4-21 more games a year. And this and the podcast are both his jobs and the podcast costs him money aswell.

  • @Skynertia
    @Skynertia 13 днів тому +8

    Is Sheldon about to be announced as the first coach in the history of the MLH?

  • @Veronica-ew8yc
    @Veronica-ew8yc 13 днів тому +1

    Like gour videos Greetings from🇫🇮

  • @ellenbonner6316
    @ellenbonner6316 11 днів тому

    Hey Leaf's Fans, I love Dangle's channel too. Just want to share my team channel, Low Quality Bruins Fan, shared a huge thanks to Leaf's Fans in his most recent last vid. Because 99% of Leaf fans were educated and cordial. He shared the difference of the Panther Fans comments in this 2 series. You all made us secondary fans of the Leafs because of you. I know you are looking forward to next season. See you then.

  • @thatpenguin9889
    @thatpenguin9889 13 днів тому +7

    Thoughts on Shanahan?

    • @badm0t0rf1ng3r
      @badm0t0rf1ng3r 13 днів тому +3

      As a Red Wings fan I love the guy. My step dad is a leafs fan so he probably has a different opinion.

    • @thobur2661
      @thobur2661 13 днів тому +2

      10 years 1 playoff win. 10 FUCKING YEARS , 1 PLAYOFF WIN !!!!!!!!!!!

    • @manthedestroyer
      @manthedestroyer 13 днів тому +1

      It's on him

    • @koshka02
      @koshka02 13 днів тому +1

      I think Shanahan set this team up for failure.
      I love that we acquired Willy Nylander and Auston Matthews.
      I am not happy with the rest.

    • @manthedestroyer
      @manthedestroyer 12 днів тому

      @@koshka02 he didn't mean to draft those guys, we just sucked. He really didn't do anything to help this team

  • @platapus112
    @platapus112 13 днів тому +3

    When are the leafs going to the MLH?

  • @aarniluukkanen3430
    @aarniluukkanen3430 13 днів тому +2

    Id love if Treliving pulled this one out: Marner to Nasville (if he agrees to, he might, its a promising organization with at least a few good prospects like Askarov) in exchange for Juuse Saros and Dante Fabbro. I think the problem of scoring in the playoffs comes most notably down to coching, but this could fix the blue line and the issues in net. (Saros and Marner are both entering their last year of contract next season which imo makes this trade more doable for both teams)

    • @isaacfernandes560
      @isaacfernandes560 12 днів тому

      Steve Yzerman would pull that out. Treiliving will more likely get fleeced like he was in Calgary. A mediocre GM with nothing to show for.

  • @CaleMakar-yr9ol
    @CaleMakar-yr9ol День тому +1

    How many times have we heard this lol

  • @dhennessey1970
    @dhennessey1970 13 днів тому +3

    Shanahan did a decent job tanking, hiring Lou, and bringing in Babcock (before he went bonkers). It went off the rails when he fired Lou to promote Kyle. Kyle and Babcock were never on the same page, and then Kyle went and got Tavares. I love Tavares but they should have targeted a defenseman or 2. Tavares is a great hockey player, but just didn't gell on this team. Also didn't help that Lou punted Verhaeghe who developed into the greatest all-around hockey player. IMO a better coach will usher in a more defensive style of play that wins. Somehow Toronto will have to get a better defenseman.

  • @vileluca
    @vileluca 13 днів тому +6

    At this point the only way to salvage the Leafs is to completely change the franchise. Name, logo, colors, everything.
    The heritage of failure is too heavy a curse.

  • @elvislives6574
    @elvislives6574 12 днів тому

    please include / make a video / talk about .... what a "Tavares Buy Out" would look like in terms of dollars ....
    and ... what do u think of Marner for Barzal straight up .... similar player, with a bit of a physical edge over Marner

  • @4.0.7.7
    @4.0.7.7 13 днів тому +2

    I knew Shanahan was sticking around when the 1st round pick wasn’t used at the trade deadline.

  • @EA-hs9xp
    @EA-hs9xp 13 днів тому +2

    Reillly, Marner, Tavares, Shanahan, and the rest of the coaching staff gotta go

    • @filipohman7277
      @filipohman7277 13 днів тому

      And Samsonov, Klingberg

    • @JarradBruessel32
      @JarradBruessel32 13 днів тому +3

      Reilly isn't an issue really. You need a guy like him.

    • @mattwhite7287
      @mattwhite7287 13 днів тому

      ​@@JarradBruessel32ya, reilly is a good hockey player.. just not a #1 dman expected to carry 5 others.

    • @EA-hs9xp
      @EA-hs9xp 13 днів тому

      @@JarradBruessel32 Rielly makes 7.5 and is a non factor. Hes a 2nd pair defenseman whos paid like a #1. Hes a big reason why the powerplay sucks because he has no shot.
      The team went 5-0 when he was suspended.
      Get rid of him now before his skating drops off. Once that happens its over.

    • @EA-hs9xp
      @EA-hs9xp 13 днів тому

      @@JarradBruessel32 Rielly sucks. Team was 5-0 when he was suspended. He makes 7.5 mil and has the losing mentality. Hes got to go

  • @honestmovietalk
    @honestmovietalk 13 днів тому +6

    You know why? Cause MLSE's goal is NOT to have the Leafs win a cup, it's to make money. They look at financial reports and see that the Leafs make a fuck ton of money, and that the ''Core Four'' generates fuck ton of it aswell. They optimize for profitabilty, not to win a championship.
    That's my take anyways

    • @derps8690
      @derps8690 13 днів тому +2

      so you’re telling me that they’d prefer only having 3 home games to make money and 7 for the square being open, rather than potentially 16?
      wow, what a great business mind you are! MLSE should hire you!
      …dope.

    • @Roller11111
      @Roller11111 13 днів тому

      Do the math on averaging just one extra round per season in the Matthews era. Give you a hint it pays for Matthews and Nylander's next contracts in full.

    • @anthonyfaccaro7118
      @anthonyfaccaro7118 13 днів тому

      ​@@Roller11111You guys forget they run 5 teams and not just the leafs, it isnt all about the leafs. As long as they make nore than last year they dont care.
      If the leafs somehow get to rd 3 or finals, then next year exit rd one again, they will see the team lost money from prior year, and then probably try to trade matthews. Until they fire shanny, this is how i feel MLSE runs things. It might be a curse to go deep in the playoffs, leafs need to be run by a different organization. Good luck with that.

  • @newfoundland1956
    @newfoundland1956 13 днів тому

    LOVED it

  • @nope7832
    @nope7832 13 днів тому +12

    MLH MLH MLH

  • @dalekitchen6833
    @dalekitchen6833 13 днів тому +6

    I am fully aware Quenville hasn’t been reinstated yet. But why is nobody talking about this guy as an option for the job??

    • @renehendrych3538
      @renehendrych3538 13 днів тому +3

      Really?!

    • @saltpeter500
      @saltpeter500 13 днів тому

      He gave a job recommendation to a guy he knew was a sexual abuser. That guy went on to sexually abuse more people in that position. Quenneville should never be allowed to work in hockey ever again.

    • @ChonkySeal23
      @ChonkySeal23 13 днів тому

      Say sike right now

    • @TheBigfootsfeet
      @TheBigfootsfeet 13 днів тому

      Because he more than likely won’t be back. Plus he most likely wouldn’t be going to leafs if so

    • @Shantiomari
      @Shantiomari 13 днів тому +1

      You just mentioned it

  • @James-nv1wf
    @James-nv1wf 11 днів тому

    I wish you would touch on what players will be available more often, who's at the end of their contracts on other teams.

  • @sirshawnpaul6272
    @sirshawnpaul6272 12 днів тому +1

    I told you Steve !!! For the past 2 years I said the Leafs will not win a Stanley Cup until John Tavares is traded.

  • @MetalCharlo
    @MetalCharlo 13 днів тому +3

    What the Leafs need is to go play in the MLH

  • @gylduran9217
    @gylduran9217 13 днів тому +4

    Steve The Insider is his new title right? 😅Guy fell for a Nigerian prince scam lololol

  • @Vantoxify
    @Vantoxify 13 днів тому

    a no nonsense coach is what we need and I will love to see that man push these talented players to the next level (hopefully)

  • @MarkGylys
    @MarkGylys 13 днів тому

    As always, an excellent summary.
    No problems with Shanahan remaining to the end of his contract. If Leafs win next year maybe he gets a new contract.
    My expectation is Marner and Tavares will not waive their no trade and will be back next year.
    As always, there are 2 issues for the Leafs, contract negotiations and player development. Each player wants the most money AND a NMC? Really. Either you would like to be a Maple Leaf or not. When the Maple Leafs have leverage, the player still dictates all the terms. Fair compensation is a must, but it you have to know when to draw the line. Treliving has not got off to a great start with Willy's deal, but it might get better.
    The Leafs are the team that always trade their draft picks like they have a drug addiction. Let's get to the model Shanahan originally suggested, draft and develop. I think our development is there, but our Leafs absolutely LOVE trading picks for a whole lotta of nothing.
    If we do not get to the conference final next year at a minimum, Shanahan, Treliving and the entire management team need to be changed.

  • @WhatTheHellIsWrongWithYouu
    @WhatTheHellIsWrongWithYouu 13 днів тому +11

    Still not speaking about MLH? Wow.

  • @jaxonneven6367
    @jaxonneven6367 13 днів тому +4

    Steve always gets very upset when people in the hockey world don't take accountability for their actions, but he's apparently just going to pretend like he didn't make an entire video that was basically spreading misinformation about a new hockey league. The hypocrisy is insane lmao.

    • @davehalcrow6733
      @davehalcrow6733 13 днів тому +2

      How do you figure? He publicly announced that he was retracting everything and did. Fuck else you want?

    • @jaxonneven6367
      @jaxonneven6367 13 днів тому

      @@davehalcrow6733 he didn’t even apologize for spreading misinformation. He just blamed his sources and moved on. Take some accountability

  • @Scottieguru
    @Scottieguru 13 днів тому +1

    I am sure Sheldon Keefe was told that if the team didn't perform better in the playoffs that he would be fired. Keefe had one year to prove that. Usually when a GM is fired his coach is fired too.

  • @angusrankin4709
    @angusrankin4709 12 днів тому +1

    NHL needs to fix the player taxes from Canada to the US ,they make a lot more in some States

  • @worldline7147
    @worldline7147 13 днів тому

    10 Years of Superannuated Shanahan promising that Next Season Will Be Different and the fans take the fall: ua-cam.com/video/9dsm7K1Xkn4/v-deo.html