I mean, there is so much to do it's hard to know if using some of your APM to repair vessels is a good use of APM. I suppose it depends on the situation?
for real that was the first thing i noticed. so tired of seeing these terrans run around with groups of 8 1 HP vessels that inevitably get hit by one muta shot and all die
@@helloken I get why players dont. The game is on edge and it feels like every irridiate is essential to win so they end up sacrificing 5-6 vessels to cast 1-2 irridiates right now. If you bring them home you get 3 vessels with minimum 70 energy for the price 1. And you dont lose that uncast irridiate, you can cast 2 irridiates with that vessel when its repaired... I think everytime you feel like its not absolutely crucial to cast every single irridiate right now you should try to repair them. Zerg hate when terran get those huge amounts of vessels.
same, still getting chills and knowing there is at least a cast a day I can click on to get my fix is awesome and I'm super grateful. Started watching ASL as a GSL fan. Initially I randomly watched like every. single. Husky solo cast, but eventually found GSL and at some point SC2 was just too cool not to try for myself. I was GARBAGE, I still remember massing DTs in my first ever online matches and the guy whispering me saying "you can't just make DTs man, you need zealots and stalkers" and I HATED that. So I started learning Zerg because I was pissed and random interneters said it was the hardest race to learn for a beginner. I worked hard at it and got plat, and finally diamond as random playing macro builds. I still remember looking at the congrats icon animate, banging on the table screaming gutterally like a soccer fan, walking around my house for the rest of the night making dumb jokes about diamonds like "see these hands? These are DIAMOND hands! See this mouse?" like so many years before that meme was even a thing. My girlfriend had no idea wtf I was saying. With that confidence, I finally picked the gentleman's race and rolled Terran 100% and Gumiho is still my spirit animal. I learned TheCore keyboard layout because my tiny hands can't reach any of the F keys and I have the mouse accuracy of hellen keller so I needed an edge, access to all 8 camera positions and all 10 control groups clustered tightly under my micro hands. SC is so steeped in it's own history at this point that absolutely insane things can happen that have so much meaning behind them, like TY coming into ASL right away in his return to Brood War after winning/casting GSL to knock out all-time GOAT of zerg JD with a typical 200iq TY build. When I was only watching/playing SC2 it was still an event to see Flash, Jaedong, Soulkey, all these legends with their stories behind them come in and do really well. Flash being so goated he is playing Random in ASL awakened my inner Tiger and made me realize my inner Tiger is Flash's bitch. That was wild. There is nothing like the acquired taste of Starcraft and as a spectator the experience ages like a fine wine, and I will not stop drinking o7
Stim'd Firebats with defensive matrix don't care about dark swarm, can wipe out 50 lings in a microsecond, obliterate stacked lurkers or annihilate mineral lines. It baffles me how underused they are in the pro scene.
I think it's because when the gameplay gets to late game, the zerg's natural transition against SK terran is ultralisks. Because high level terrans know this, terrans typically secure the 3rd gas and they will begin producing tanks and vessels in anticipation of that transition. The tank/vessel/MM terran combination still is good against ling, hydra defiler. Why waste the gas and supply on 20 firebats when you can start stacking the tank count.
I feel like I see them a lot considering it’s something you only make against Zerg. Only making 2-3 is prob the smartest play. Just keep a few in with marine med combo and u got a cool looking army
Artosis! I love how effective you are using the zoom in and out feature with this cast! Its really nice to get glimpses of the full battle and then zoom ins on the mini skirmishes!
It's much better now. In earlier videos he spent too much time zoomed way out where it was hard to see the action. (Not a complaint! I like the zooms, as long as he goes back to the standard zoom right after.)
Everyone playing their games publicly reminds me a lot like Chess. A chess player today would absolutely destroy an equivalent, or even better player 100 years ago thanks to technology giving us better practice techniques, and knowledge of not just popular openers and tactics, but also the counterplays. When Magnus Carlsen plays an unorthodox opener on stream, or in a tournament, the next day people are already practicing it on the ladder. Chess hasn't been patched in over 200 years (since en-passant was added)
I do love the games where both players take damage early on- it’s interesting to see how the players approach developing their game from there disruption
That plague on those 4 tanks at the 4th and then the long run by to kill them was super clutch by hero to break that position. It's super impressive how those gosu players can make strong decisions not only for the ongoing fight but also prepare for the next wave. Sick plays
I dont have any social media besides yt, so I dont have anywhere else to post this. But my friend died last night in a car crash :( He was my gaming buddy. He was going thru a rough patch, and I did my best to help him out in that time. All I want to say is Thank You Arty, your passion for Starcraft (and gaming) has kept my spirits high. My friend had a similar passion for gaming. The only way for me to describe watching these videos would be *CATHARTIC* -Much Love, Skybro
Hey tosis! Do you think the faster speed of the meta game changing is making it so jaedong isn't able to analyze strategies and find weak spots to exploit as well as he used to when it evolved slower? I thought about that when you mentioned how he does that during your asl cast the other day
The problem is the amout of gas per firebat so a fully mech transition is almost impossible this strat is for early games only and the pro scene always gets to late game(for obvious reasons). Maybe on maps that have double gas on natural base can somehow enable this strat but i doubt it cuz those type of maps re not popular on the pro scene.
arty its solosolosolosolosolo ur friend a guy in the chat, i was telling you always to build 24 firebat..cant wait to see this as meta need firebat to shot up and down tho
Hey artosis. What’s up with these zergs not using up mineral mid-late game? I see them pretty often banking 1k-2k . I feel like they could be used for ling counterattack and drops
@@darkranger116 or just keep it until you mine more gas and then spend it on units that dont lose to 2 firebats. the terran was making a ton of firebats this game. lings are literally just cannon fodder. and gases never run out unlike minerals so banking some minerals for the eventuality of a late game is not a bad idea in general.
Not too sure that the firebat tech would actually stick in the long run. It worked here because the firebats were 3/1, while the lings were 0/2. If upgrades are even, then lings need 3 firebat hits to die instead of 2.
my favourite unit is still the high templar.... when i was at my peak playing teams i would focus on corsairs and templars.....i had a lot of precision with psi storm. and with the web that disables defenses.....
I'm happy to see Artosis bringing back his claims about why each player is the best in the world: 2nd strongest Zerg in the world, best TvP player in the world, smartest Protoss in the world, best B rank muta micro in the world etc. It makes each game so hype!
Matrixed hero Firebat rushing into the dark swarm alone and singlehandedly cleaning house is the hypest shit ever
Firebathero is back
Hero don't use firebats :D
Hell. It's about time. Been waiting 26 years for the Firebat meta.
It is a really good unit
Defiler still crushing though. Exciting to see though.
Need a Light?
Fired up!
@@LemonGingerHoney Let's Buuuurn!
@@LL-kv1jkFlamin'
duo with light would help ample thats for sure :>)
naturally!
Finally a Terran who repairs the vessels
I mean, there is so much to do it's hard to know if using some of your APM to repair vessels is a good use of APM. I suppose it depends on the situation?
Arty, exhibit A1 for failing to protect his vessels.
for real that was the first thing i noticed. so tired of seeing these terrans run around with groups of 8 1 HP vessels that inevitably get hit by one muta shot and all die
@@helloken worth the apm to save Terran's strongest unit, its great equalizer?
@@helloken I get why players dont. The game is on edge and it feels like every irridiate is essential to win so they end up sacrificing 5-6 vessels to cast 1-2 irridiates right now. If you bring them home you get 3 vessels with minimum 70 energy for the price 1. And you dont lose that uncast irridiate, you can cast 2 irridiates with that vessel when its repaired...
I think everytime you feel like its not absolutely crucial to cast every single irridiate right now you should try to repair them. Zerg hate when terran get those huge amounts of vessels.
I'm still waiting for the Optical Flare meta.
Could be good against Muta's
How? Its not aoe is it?
a smaller stack you could still potentially effect range enough to make a few seconds difference@@redgaarden8101
Coming from SC2 I was recommended ASL and have been addicted since. Artosis, you are a massive part in that - I appreciate the passion(getting chills
nasty , a sc2 player begone or i will defeat you with protoss , SCOUTS
same, still getting chills and knowing there is at least a cast a day I can click on to get my fix is awesome and I'm super grateful. Started watching ASL as a GSL fan. Initially I randomly watched like every. single. Husky solo cast, but eventually found GSL and at some point SC2 was just too cool not to try for myself. I was GARBAGE, I still remember massing DTs in my first ever online matches and the guy whispering me saying "you can't just make DTs man, you need zealots and stalkers" and I HATED that. So I started learning Zerg because I was pissed and random interneters said it was the hardest race to learn for a beginner. I worked hard at it and got plat, and finally diamond as random playing macro builds. I still remember looking at the congrats icon animate, banging on the table screaming gutterally like a soccer fan, walking around my house for the rest of the night making dumb jokes about diamonds like "see these hands? These are DIAMOND hands! See this mouse?" like so many years before that meme was even a thing. My girlfriend had no idea wtf I was saying. With that confidence, I finally picked the gentleman's race and rolled Terran 100% and Gumiho is still my spirit animal. I learned TheCore keyboard layout because my tiny hands can't reach any of the F keys and I have the mouse accuracy of hellen keller so I needed an edge, access to all 8 camera positions and all 10 control groups clustered tightly under my micro hands.
SC is so steeped in it's own history at this point that absolutely insane things can happen that have so much meaning behind them, like TY coming into ASL right away in his return to Brood War after winning/casting GSL to knock out all-time GOAT of zerg JD with a typical 200iq TY build. When I was only watching/playing SC2 it was still an event to see Flash, Jaedong, Soulkey, all these legends with their stories behind them come in and do really well. Flash being so goated he is playing Random in ASL awakened my inner Tiger and made me realize my inner Tiger is Flash's bitch. That was wild. There is nothing like the acquired taste of Starcraft and as a spectator the experience ages like a fine wine, and I will not stop drinking o7
Stim'd Firebats with defensive matrix don't care about dark swarm, can wipe out 50 lings in a microsecond, obliterate stacked lurkers or annihilate mineral lines. It baffles me how underused they are in the pro scene.
Cause they are insanely micro intensive. SC1 dont have mass select like SC2
Shame it doesn't cus we'd see more play like this
When the siege tanks shell them though -__-
I think it's because when the gameplay gets to late game, the zerg's natural transition against SK terran is ultralisks. Because high level terrans know this, terrans typically secure the 3rd gas and they will begin producing tanks and vessels in anticipation of that transition. The tank/vessel/MM terran combination still is good against ling, hydra defiler. Why waste the gas and supply on 20 firebats when you can start stacking the tank count.
I feel like I see them a lot considering it’s something you only make against Zerg. Only making 2-3 is prob the smartest play. Just keep a few in with marine med combo and u got a cool looking army
I love firebats! Underused unit.
my fav unit!
It’s unfortunate that they didn’t wind up doing much here.
It's been cool seeing dmatrix used on smaller groups of firebats recently!
Need light?
Getting your hands on BW replays back in the day was like finding gold, it was so rare
I am so happy this game is alive and well. Your style of casting on this channel seems to have gotten even better too, thanks for all your work!
Artosis: If you're suffering from diarrhea, try cutting fibre from your diet
no chills, but wiggles!
Artosis! I love how effective you are using the zoom in and out feature with this cast! Its really nice to get glimpses of the full battle and then zoom ins on the mini skirmishes!
It's much better now. In earlier videos he spent too much time zoomed way out where it was hard to see the action.
(Not a complaint! I like the zooms, as long as he goes back to the standard zoom right after.)
I watch every video all the way through. Love your casts, man
Thank you Artosis, I watch these when I start my day and it just makes me want to try brood war and suck at it haha. Keep it up :)
Awesome match! I watched this long. Really hope this firebat comp gets perfected and then lets see how the zergs will react.
Everyone playing their games publicly reminds me a lot like Chess. A chess player today would absolutely destroy an equivalent, or even better player 100 years ago thanks to technology giving us better practice techniques, and knowledge of not just popular openers and tactics, but also the counterplays. When Magnus Carlsen plays an unorthodox opener on stream, or in a tournament, the next day people are already practicing it on the ladder. Chess hasn't been patched in over 200 years (since en-passant was added)
Crazy game. Love your casts always
i always watch till the end. I can't wait to see more firebat meta.
0:13 no way
heroic drones
great cast, as always.
Thanks for these casts! Makes me want to create my own RTS some day. I should probably just play the ones others have made though haha.
It's really interesting to see the flip between defiler hunting and oh no plaguuu.
that terran charge up zerg's 4th right when darkswarm ended was CRAZY
I do love the games where both players take damage early on- it’s interesting to see how the players approach developing their game from there disruption
hey artosis, your stream gives me joy and is the only reason why I put sound on on my computer
Have a good poop artosis.
fire bats and medics, lighting up the battle field like never before.
The firebat is the perfect example of how a niche unit should work. Not every unit has to be a staple but they can still be strong.
Thank you for the content Artosis! ♥
the two player's conversation at the beginning is hilarious.
Awesome game. Awesome cast!
The meta shift in PvT was crazy, arbiter was the only endgame toss was throwing out
I love these casts man! Thanks for the consistent joy from another Atlantic Canada BW fan!
Cheers from beautiful and unseasonably warm Northern Ontario!
I got chills when those bats did their thing
Firebats + optical flare meta almost here!
That plague on those 4 tanks at the 4th and then the long run by to kill them was super clutch by hero to break that position.
It's super impressive how those gosu players can make strong decisions not only for the ongoing fight but also prepare for the next wave. Sick plays
I dont have any social media besides yt, so I dont have anywhere else to post this. But my friend died last night in a car crash :( He was my gaming buddy. He was going thru a rough patch, and I did my best to help him out in that time.
All I want to say is Thank You Arty, your passion for Starcraft (and gaming) has kept my spirits high. My friend had a similar passion for gaming.
The only way for me to describe watching these videos would be *CATHARTIC*
-Much Love,
Skybro
My biggest condolences. So sorry to hear.
Zerg player must do everything to keep that vessel count down…
Hey tosis! Do you think the faster speed of the meta game changing is making it so jaedong isn't able to analyze strategies and find weak spots to exploit as well as he used to when it evolved slower? I thought about that when you mentioned how he does that during your asl cast the other day
I also kind of wondered if that was part of what Artosis was getting at. It seemed like he didn't QUITE finish that chain of reasoning.
Starcraft is very diverse!! Its now 2% non-Korean! Lol
Zerg are so fun to watch at this level!
What a great match! I've always liked firebats
When I eat chili papers I am firebat from the ass.
Fuck yeah Artosis keep it alive.
Firebats with medics actually do well against mass zealot too. Not that you see that combination often since protoss usually is goon heavy
@ArtosisCasts - why do most terrans not repair vessels or use restore?
Is it possible to d matrix and irradiate a vessel at the same time?
The problem is the amout of gas per firebat so a fully mech transition is almost impossible this strat is for early games only and the pro scene always gets to late game(for obvious reasons). Maybe on maps that have double gas on natural base can somehow enable this strat but i doubt it cuz those type of maps re not popular on the pro scene.
Great game. Great casting
Artosis saying "is terran OP?" is all i need. Clip it 100x
We want to see more firebats!
arty its solosolosolosolosolo ur friend a guy in the chat, i was telling you always to build 24 firebat..cant wait to see this as meta
need firebat to shot up and down tho
ah, i knew this day would come
The term genius works but the one you want is ace. Or perhaps anchor.
hey artosis --- how do I get to the ASL to watch it live?
Firebats should be used more. What about mixing some spidermines in? A mine under the swarm cant be killed before impacting right?
Serious question, has Zerg ever lost to Terran or Protoss on Neo Dark Origin?
🔥FIRED UP 🔥
Stimmed firebat with dmatrix into the dark swarm was dope af
Are they using their real names versus vertical bars since they are on the same team, Josae Starcraft Academy?
Great game
Insane casting
What do we have to do to get the pros play UEDAIP for a day? Would love to see them use bio against toss and it not suck.
Curious why Artosis was in LA
Hey artosis. What’s up with these zergs not using up mineral mid-late game? I see them pretty often banking 1k-2k . I feel like they could be used for ling counterattack and drops
lings cost a lot of larva and apm. they are better off spending their time microing their other units.
@@TheSuperappelflap yeah its one of those few situations where banking doest shoot you in the foot, keep it around until you're ready to spam lings
@@darkranger116 or just keep it until you mine more gas and then spend it on units that dont lose to 2 firebats. the terran was making a ton of firebats this game. lings are literally just cannon fodder. and gases never run out unlike minerals so banking some minerals for the eventuality of a late game is not a bad idea in general.
Do you think fireball will be used more and more?
Watched to the end, hope you're having a good poop
Not too sure that the firebat tech would actually stick in the long run. It worked here because the firebats were 3/1, while the lings were 0/2. If upgrades are even, then lings need 3 firebat hits to die instead of 2.
He really needed to move those tanks out
I live for the hey guys.
Firebathero is back!
Surprised it took this long.
Letting you know
Great game!
No restoration on the plagued SV's?
We need some mirror matches!!
So it's 2024 and terran mains are finally figuring out that you need to use firebats in dark swarms. Genius.jpg
Damn fine game!
Sorry i haven't commented alot lately. Great games from ASL btw i'll go and like the VODs and comment soon!
I have no idea what RT is talking about at 9 minutes, Hero was at 31 drones before the attack and 20 after, that is 11 drones he lost.
Just leavin' a comment and lettin' you know.
Zergs would probably react to heavy firebat play by switching into Ultras.
Just need to add in some optical flares.
it took u guys how long to think of firebats
my favourite unit is still the high templar....
when i was at my peak playing teams i would focus on corsairs and templars.....i had a lot of precision with psi storm. and with the web that disables defenses.....
Hey guys! Please can you explain why i don't have medics and others guys on my StarCraft broodwar?
Why isn't the Medic's Restoration used to counter Plague?
I'm happy to see Artosis bringing back his claims about why each player is the best in the world: 2nd strongest Zerg in the world, best TvP player in the world, smartest Protoss in the world, best B rank muta micro in the world etc. It makes each game so hype!
Hero is using "white" color and his units have the white frame like "hero units" crazy
Is Queen really not that dominant? I remember him destroying everyone including Flash in ASL but he's not in Artosis' Zerg list?
Firebats and valks are insane vs Zerg
All those firebat awesome engagements in exchange for unlimited dark storm…. 🙃
Cool Beans
in this map based on my calculation as zerg you can lurker rush = autowin.
Fun game. Thanks.
I would love to see a Normal damage upgrade for Firebats at academy with requirement of Science Facility. I wonder how awesome that would be.
Yeah, no.
Great game
Defiler is a perfectly balanced unit. That should've been the title.
That was a really good game. Rip Terran
Starcraft1 goes hard. Yeah, whenever I see dark swarms I just type in: poweroverwhelming and that stops zerg in their tracks every time.