Citystate - Death and Taxes

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  • @xyldkefyi
    @xyldkefyi 6 років тому +365

    Apparently Jon's love for Greek things also applies to its modern economy

    • @EVERSMAN42
      @EVERSMAN42 6 років тому +32

      Slow clap, tips hat

    • @TheBook778
      @TheBook778 6 років тому +7

      Bravo sir, very good.

  • @xsaxia2008
    @xsaxia2008 6 років тому +67

    "I need to constantly borrow money to cover the interest and debt payments on money I've borrowed previously to cover my previous debts. Oh god I've become an actual country."

  • @nothingmuch6666
    @nothingmuch6666 6 років тому +340

    "So if I just slightly increase the tax rate..."
    *quadruples tax for low income residents*

    • @ilo3456
      @ilo3456 6 років тому +35

      Daniel Perry
      We probably shouldn't let Jon run the UK

    • @gargoyles9999
      @gargoyles9999 6 років тому +3

      Daniel Perry bah, those scrubs just need to up their game

    • @CuppaLLX
      @CuppaLLX 6 років тому +2

      that how it starts....

    • @jasonmanry3568
      @jasonmanry3568 6 років тому +10

      Daniel Perry Jon should come to American and become a politician.

    • @martyristau8212
      @martyristau8212 6 років тому +9

      Had the same exact thought :D There's more low-income people, so let's tax THEM more, because we'll make more money. That's probably how it goes in real-life as well. I would have startet with the sales tax instead :P

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher 6 років тому +240

    Why hasn’t Jon played the Tropico series yet, being a dictator seems right up his alley

    • @Arkandos42
      @Arkandos42 6 років тому +8

      Hope he plays Tropico 4

    • @shacklock01
      @shacklock01 6 років тому +4

      Replaying tropico 5 atm, its not as shit as I remember.

    • @EarthboundX
      @EarthboundX 6 років тому +6

      I'm actually playing Tropico 3 right now, there's really no good reason to be a dictator in the game oddly enough. It's pretty easy to keep people happy.
      You have the options to be a dictator, but so far I've done most of the 15 campaigns, and none of them actually have you being a dictator as a goal.

    • @guul66
      @guul66 6 років тому

      Josh Shacklock tropico 5 isn't bad, just... different

    • @LynxSnowCat
      @LynxSnowCat 6 років тому +5

      You just want to watch him deal with (the admittedly more accurate than I would like portrayal) of heavy traffic in a developing territory --- I want to see that too now.

  • @jumpyg1258
    @jumpyg1258 6 років тому +85

    If the government increased the tax from 2 to 8%, I wouldn't call it a slight increase.

    • @MSpacer
      @MSpacer 6 років тому +40

      Gotta love that taxing the poor 4x as much as the rich and not noticing your 5% approval rating

    • @50mt
      @50mt 6 років тому +8

      Martin Mcintosh Typical capitalist "democracy" ;)

  • @awordabout...3061
    @awordabout...3061 6 років тому +54

    "Presidente, the taxes are crippling the economy! We have a huge deficit!"
    "Quick! Raise taxes some more!"
    Oh Jon, never change.

  • @yurik4
    @yurik4 6 років тому +28

    I started watching the budget bar in about half way through the video, wonderin when Jon would notice and if he would go bankrupt. I was not disappointed by the end.

  • @nobodyp3546
    @nobodyp3546 6 років тому +67

    Any management game Jon plays is guaranteed to end in disaster, calling it before i start the video.

    • @Duskpixie
      @Duskpixie 6 років тому +6

      MORE BONDS MORE BONDS

  • @soulsearcher9620
    @soulsearcher9620 6 років тому +56

    Oh god I've become an actual country. Jon, welcome to the big leagues . you're ready to manage a nation in real life now.

  • @zacmassey7791
    @zacmassey7791 6 років тому +73

    New New New Jonton, damn it you've gone Doctor Who again

  • @CloakedC
    @CloakedC 6 років тому +24

    At least there were no one way roads

  • @MichaelPalin
    @MichaelPalin 6 років тому +5

    Is it just me, or does Jon create a dystopia every time he plays a city builder?

  • @sirbinky3770
    @sirbinky3770 6 років тому +4

    I was crying with laughter as his utopia turned into a dystopia ending with Greek style borrowing to service his previous borrowings.

  • @thomasesr
    @thomasesr 6 років тому +35

    New new new ways to build one way road systems!

  • @MW-pb2gf
    @MW-pb2gf 6 років тому +2

    “I’m sure nobody will die. Or if anyone does die, it will be a very small number of people.” Oh, Jon...

  • @Zachmunzter
    @Zachmunzter 6 років тому +5

    Just finished re-watching FONV Kill Everything and wow, your intro has gotten a lot more energy since then.

  • @marklipsinic7916
    @marklipsinic7916 6 років тому +11

    Jon - "The welfare state turned out to be expensive."
    Me - DUH!

  • @TYKUHN2
    @TYKUHN2 6 років тому +44

    Complains unemployment is too low.
    Makes new jobs.

    • @joeldahero1
      @joeldahero1 6 років тому +3

      Fuck that shit tho, id rather low unemployment to high unemployment like every town ive ever lived in :/

  • @oldmangranny5oldmangranny56
    @oldmangranny5oldmangranny56 5 років тому +3

    You made this very entertaining I must say.

  • @Beafypotato
    @Beafypotato 6 років тому +17

    This graphics of this game kinda reminds me of Simcity 2000

  • @ilo3456
    @ilo3456 6 років тому +15

    May I mention that New New New Jonton's flag looks like the Gmail icon?

  • @lanceuppercut6168
    @lanceuppercut6168 6 років тому +4

    Aw yeah, Clicked on this so fast! Any chance Jon gets at politic-ing(?) is sure to be a blast XD

  • @Heartwing13
    @Heartwing13 6 років тому +5

    A city planning game?
    Yes! Yes! Yes!

  • @CaptainHightop
    @CaptainHightop 6 років тому +21

    I want the next city to be New Old Jonton.

  • @CarlMarx
    @CarlMarx 6 років тому

    I must say Jon, just about finished with you CK:II video and then I discover this, you the man.

  • @darianchristie3260
    @darianchristie3260 4 роки тому

    There IS a traffic filter, one of the small buttons on the bottom right. You can upgrade your roads without bulldozing them first (same with upgrading houses, etc to medium or high density)

  • @Kaiimei
    @Kaiimei 6 років тому +50

    You might enjoy Rise of Industry if you like this kind of game. I know I certainly do.
    Also, eventually, and hopefully we'll get a New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New Jonton.
    15 New Jontons. Hooray for Doctor Who!

    • @kennandunn7533
      @kennandunn7533 6 років тому

      Fireflux I prefer the name New Jonton x15

    • @Kaiimei
      @Kaiimei 6 років тому +1

      Hmm, doesn't roll of the tongue as much as saying New 15 times. Tennant nailed that!

  • @gargoyles9999
    @gargoyles9999 6 років тому +6

    The real question is, can we legislate one-way roads?

  • @nessesaryschoolthing
    @nessesaryschoolthing 6 років тому +22

    Jon, ignore this if I asked you before, but have you played Caesar 3? Essentially a city sim set in (slightly dubiously accurate) Ancient Rome? I would think you would enjoy it.

    • @nessesaryschoolthing
      @nessesaryschoolthing 6 років тому

      One lesson I learned in that game that's relevant here: always prioritize your exports as early as possible.

    • @tuurekeranen1771
      @tuurekeranen1771 6 років тому +1

      nessesaryschoolthing Caesar II or go home. :D

    • @RobinFlysHigh
      @RobinFlysHigh 6 років тому +1

      Pharaoh was so good

    • @KevinScandinavia
      @KevinScandinavia 6 років тому

      Yaaas! Caesar II was bomdiggidy! Except when you were just waiting for the Empire % to raise, or you got taxed by Caesar, or two armies invaded at the same time and you could only train 20 legionaries a turn or...

  • @frankdelgrosso8297
    @frankdelgrosso8297 5 років тому

    So many great moments.. Please make more on this game.

  • @TheGrinningViking
    @TheGrinningViking 6 років тому +4

    Jon - how dare you make America. We come here for lovely British humor!

  • @justinkroboth360
    @justinkroboth360 6 років тому +1

    Boy, Jon sure does have a track record in city/nation building games, huh? Those poor fake civilians.

  • @davidkeetz
    @davidkeetz 6 років тому

    "ok. we're going to have a gold rush. The gold will save us" - haha. Love it. If only I could do this in real life.

  • @Mankorra_Gomorrah
    @Mankorra_Gomorrah 6 років тому +7

    Does density really translate to income in this game? I feel like just slapping down regular high density zones means that a lot of low income people can live in one tile and you need to boost the property value in order for a ton of rich people to live together in zone.

    • @huttj509
      @huttj509 6 років тому +4

      I agree with you.

    • @andrewsmith8715
      @andrewsmith8715 Рік тому

      Density translates to income in real city building as well. Suburban sprawl is a money sink.

  • @Sleepless493
    @Sleepless493 6 років тому

    Jon you deserve way more subscribers. I enjoy watching you play games that i have absolutely no interest in.

  • @that_colin.michell
    @that_colin.michell 6 років тому +12

    Today Jon on how to ru(i)n a country xD

  • @Meirstein
    @Meirstein 6 років тому +1

    Right, the parks are only for the rich district... oh god, I've created a dystopia.
    Don't ever change.

  • @skorpion7132
    @skorpion7132 Рік тому

    "Oh my god I became an actual country"
    Welcome to Night City Jon!

  • @Ben-nk3cx
    @Ben-nk3cx 6 років тому +9

    This game is £11. You can get Democracy 3 and every one of the Sim City games for that price!

    • @RobinFlysHigh
      @RobinFlysHigh 6 років тому +1

      No.... You can’t lol um.................

  • @danielantcliffe6605
    @danielantcliffe6605 6 років тому

    "I need to borrow money to cover the interest on my previous loans" lets face it, he just made a miniature UK, deficit and all!

  • @PitterPatter20
    @PitterPatter20 6 років тому

    Enjoyed the video! I'd like to see this game again!

  • @teddyboragina6437
    @teddyboragina6437 6 років тому +2

    okay. you got my attention.

  • @mabcap124
    @mabcap124 3 роки тому

    "That's where I live, it's blurry and wonderful"

  • @CharlotteComBand
    @CharlotteComBand 4 роки тому

    Is that Frank Ticheli's "Cajun Folk Songs" at 7:15?

  • @DeltaOps3
    @DeltaOps3 6 років тому

    Love this channel

  • @asbog1
    @asbog1 6 років тому +13

    why is this not called "jon makes america great again?"

  • @connorstewart9867
    @connorstewart9867 6 років тому +1

    If you enjoyed this game you meant like urban empire. It like this one. The game doesn’t call itself a city builder/simulator but instead a city manager so yeah you should check it out

    • @mithkabob
      @mithkabob 6 років тому +1

      It has some bad memory leaks and other issues with it, but I did have a pretty good time with it for a couple of playthroughs. The faction diplomacy piece is actually fairly interesting, and the passage through time is nice.

  • @LUNUSt
    @LUNUSt 6 років тому +3

    Penal labor is a pretty broad category. It could mean anything from a gulag to just making them clean up trash and perform other menial tasks

    • @josephdedrick9337
      @josephdedrick9337 6 років тому +7

      in a private prison its gonna be gulag levels of hard labor

  • @wsconsn
    @wsconsn 6 років тому +28

    Jon did you create The USA? Why would you do that?

    • @MrLeone-sy8tl
      @MrLeone-sy8tl 6 років тому +1

      Buster Bear I believe that in his eyes its under British control

  • @CommissarMitch
    @CommissarMitch 6 років тому

    So this video is basically every time Jon tries to make a city.

  • @nashdogg2k12
    @nashdogg2k12 6 років тому +22

    Taxing lower class more than upper classes? What are you, a Tory? XD

    • @MW-pb2gf
      @MW-pb2gf 6 років тому +12

      nashdogg2k12 Honestly he winds up doing this every time someone gives him a city/country to run.

    • @uckfayooglegay9982
      @uckfayooglegay9982 6 років тому +10

      Tax havens, investment booms, and lots of loans. Jon wants money now to fix the issues "at some point"

  • @lardboy7431
    @lardboy7431 6 років тому

    Jon has become Mrs May and taxed all the poor people till they bled

  • @Drgn8DDragonsDungeon
    @Drgn8DDragonsDungeon 6 років тому +1

    Yep I'm just going to wait a few months til we get new new new, new new new new new new new new new new, NEW, new jonton.
    *keeps watching until then*

  • @eliparker7151
    @eliparker7151 6 років тому

    "Unemployment could arguably be a little bit higher. Let's build some INDUSTRY".

  • @amitcarbyne3635
    @amitcarbyne3635 5 років тому

    Thanks for introducing hardcore mode

  • @justjoe811
    @justjoe811 5 років тому +1

    Stopped too soon with developing the gold and iron mines and building beaches. Every time you built a mine your revenue went up, but then you over built residential and commercial in response.

  • @seltin1988
    @seltin1988 6 років тому

    more please! we need more :)

  • @cthulwho3879
    @cthulwho3879 6 років тому +11

    My why are the high income people taxed the least?

    • @lanceuppercut6168
      @lanceuppercut6168 6 років тому +3

      Cthulwho?
      He's on the take XD

    • @ZeoCobra
      @ZeoCobra 6 років тому +3

      He needs to keep the High Income low, to attract them into moving into the city. You can't tax people who do not exist yet. It makes more sense to tax the majority present to maximize profits.

    • @zacharygustafson8714
      @zacharygustafson8714 6 років тому

      Well, righ people hate taxes too, but they can at least move away easier

  • @sreckocuvalo8110
    @sreckocuvalo8110 5 років тому +1

    ''Oh my God, I've become an actual country''

  • @shacklock01
    @shacklock01 6 років тому +2

    Hrhmm having played city skylines religiously and being obsessed with the aesthetics of my city im a bit on the fence about this one.... Looks a bit weird with no minor roads.

  • @catriona_drummond
    @catriona_drummond 6 років тому

    Took Jon only half an hour to discover what economists call the "technical debt trap". Well done. Also a degressive tax system (aka tax the poor) seems to work really well.. :P

  • @kennandunn7533
    @kennandunn7533 6 років тому +3

    I’d say that New Jonton x3 is a much better name than New New New Jonton.

    • @icthulu
      @icthulu 6 років тому +1

      How about New Jonton the Third?

    • @BlaydeTan
      @BlaydeTan 6 років тому +1

      To me it looks like algebra variables. New^3 Jonton.

  • @Scanixon
    @Scanixon 6 років тому +1

    EU3 : Death and Taxes who remembers this?

  • @yashmody1
    @yashmody1 6 років тому +1

    Hoo boy.
    Can't wait for Nunu nunu Jonton.

  • @keepiticy
    @keepiticy 6 років тому +1

    hardcore mode is obviously new orleans

  • @celinak5062
    @celinak5062 5 років тому

    33:00 "high" taxes 33:17 even 5% imaging 72% it's beyond your wildest dreams

  • @mrk45
    @mrk45 6 років тому +1

    You should have called it Jonaco.

  • @alasdaircampbell7494
    @alasdaircampbell7494 6 років тому +1

    Love the content Jon

  • @KipperStudios
    @KipperStudios 6 років тому +6

    Wait... citystate... wasn't this the name of an online text based 'game' thing?

    • @KipperStudios
      @KipperStudios 6 років тому +6

      Wait, no, it was nationstates. Still, I wonder if its at all from the same people. Has the same feel.

    • @imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158
      @imperatorcaesardivifiliusa2158 6 років тому +3

      Niall Mullenger I remember that game! I have a feeling I would have enjoyed the game more with discord.

  • @thameralosaimi1131
    @thameralosaimi1131 6 років тому

    You should’ve started with building gold mines in the begging

  • @kelborhal2576
    @kelborhal2576 6 років тому

    The graphics reminds me somewhat of the old Caesar/Pharoh games.

  • @jacktheflying
    @jacktheflying 3 роки тому +1

    > Welfare state
    > 1% tax on the wealthy
    J O N

  • @bjbarlowe
    @bjbarlowe 6 років тому

    State owned mines produce less but cost more. Sounds about right.

  • @NavJack27gaming
    @NavJack27gaming 6 років тому +2

    Hello this is Google. Your cities flag is actually a big Gmail

  • @cageybee7221
    @cageybee7221 6 років тому

    Basically it's like urban empire but good

  • @martijnjuch2074
    @martijnjuch2074 6 років тому

    I am deeply disturbed by Jon's flagmaking skills.

    • @stevenvroom1041
      @stevenvroom1041 6 років тому

      To be fair. It only broke one of the flag design rules.

  • @amox
    @amox 6 років тому

    I want more!

  • @gosportjamie
    @gosportjamie 6 років тому

    Well, that was a remarkably short time to start and destroy a state...

  • @godheadjw
    @godheadjw 6 років тому

    please do a series on new new new jonton

  • @Wandering1500
    @Wandering1500 6 років тому +3

    Jon, this is great, but when is Parkitect returning! 💔💔💔

    • @semaj-cl8xj
      @semaj-cl8xj 6 років тому

      James Bradley Seems like it's nearing full release in the next couple months, so if he ever revisits it I imagine it won't be until then.

  • @TheAIGhostwriter_MinorMiracle
    @TheAIGhostwriter_MinorMiracle 5 років тому

    Once you put the social housing in the town collapsed lol

  • @Grumblecakes3
    @Grumblecakes3 6 років тому

    Jon please. Every time you play a society simulation game you end up ruining everyone's lives. Please keep playing them for our entertainment

  • @glitterfarts7445
    @glitterfarts7445 6 років тому +3

    you've easily become my favorite youtuber to watch

  • @killer2339
    @killer2339 6 років тому

    having 0 stability probably makes people want to leave

  • @TheKlink
    @TheKlink 6 років тому

    So this I essentially Liberland; the game

  • @alexandercross9081
    @alexandercross9081 6 років тому

    After 3 news start using one with exponents

  • @doctorzoidberg1715
    @doctorzoidberg1715 6 років тому

    This doesnt look like Cornwall at all?

  • @that_colin.michell
    @that_colin.michell 6 років тому

    Can we see more of Crusader Kings 2?

  • @kiptheott
    @kiptheott 6 років тому

    Hey Jon, have you heard of a game called Treasure Adventure World? It's kinda like if Wind Waker was a 2D Metroidvania.

  • @_TehTJ_
    @_TehTJ_ 5 років тому

    And that folks is how a banana republic forms!

  • @salmonfish4038
    @salmonfish4038 6 років тому

    Problem: No money Solution: Raise race and don’t bother reducing spending

  • @jasonmanry3568
    @jasonmanry3568 6 років тому

    I read the title as Death and Texas. 😂

  • @GamerTime_2002
    @GamerTime_2002 6 років тому

    This just sounds like urban empire

  • @thelonewanderer420
    @thelonewanderer420 6 років тому +1

    The day we learned Jon wasn’t a good city designer

  • @TrickNPlay
    @TrickNPlay 4 роки тому

    According to the comments you’re from Greece, I see how Greece nearly went bankrupt

  • @ocean44432
    @ocean44432 6 років тому

    I think your problem here was the lack of one way roads.

  • @sik3xploit
    @sik3xploit 5 років тому

    Congratz. You made California.

    • @tiedeman39
      @tiedeman39 2 роки тому

      That's a weird way to say Greece

  • @TheAIGhostwriter_MinorMiracle
    @TheAIGhostwriter_MinorMiracle 5 років тому

    You know what stops the most crime? The threat of prison actually being awful.

  • @din3rvids331
    @din3rvids331 6 років тому

    More

  • @jarradscarborough7915
    @jarradscarborough7915 6 років тому +1

    "we need some people for our city..."
    and then it all went downhill, the city was fine til u put people in it...