Just programmed and installed in less than 30mins. So easy thanks to you, the XL Peasant Saga upgrade continues…. Sync 1-->3 + wiring tailgate camera running under through the truck into the radio is next. That’s definitely gonna be interesting…. wish me luck. Love this channel btw
This is a great place to have accurate and precise information, thanks for that. The only question I have is, once the original data is downloaded and flashed back to the new cluster, is the VIN # carry over to the new cluster?
I'm curious about something you did with FORScan after turning on the cluster for the first time. You hit "No" on the FORScan screen message that asked you to load your saved profile (VIN). Once all of the corrections are completed in the new cluster, is FORScan creating a new profile matching that new cluster?, and after that, do you consequently answer "Yes" confirming your truck profile on futures interventions with FORScan?
You can hit yes every time if you want. If you hit no It just doesn't scan for new modules each time so if you hit no it assumes you have the same setup. It still looks for dtcs though.
Great video! Did you also add power fold mirrors or just puddle lights? I noticed the switch in your vent trim? I looked for a video to see if you had one for that upgrade but I couldn’t find one. Nice truck brother!
My truck came with puddle lights and side spot lights but no power fold mirrors. I haven't added them either. Don't need them. Thanks for the compliment.
I just did the exact swap. Follow you step by step thank you very much man huge help! Did you by chance figure out how to get the miles to empty above the fuel gauge? Any help would be great. Thanks again!!
Besides updating mileage, can you do things like engine hours, trip meters, oil life percentage, etc? Edit, rewatched, I see where you showed the engine hours.
@@deweyyates7057 look at about the 22:15 mark You cannot reset engine hours, only add to (like the miles) and like he mentions, it’s done in seconds. Somehow mine got jacked up and I have 3000 hours instead of 300 so be careful.
Great video. I plan on doing this swap and was wondering if you had or knew where to find a step by step guide for doing the forscan part? It seems like there are a lot of options to go through in forscan and I would like to print of step by step instructions.
I noticed the you reply for this message but you haven't reply or answered my question.. where do bought the cluster ??? Why you don't want to knowing ???
I have the same question. I found one in eBay but the selling told me it wouldn’t fit my 18’ and that I needed to get the right now for it. Which is $900 compare to the one he is selling for $550. So does it matter the year speedometer you get?
Did you ever get an answer to this? I believe it will but want to make sure. I’ve found a 15’ with milage slightly lower then mine, but want to make sure it’ll work. I’ve got a 2018 F150 XLT with sync 3 and 8” stereo screen
I'm not sure what is going on. Maybe the file is corrupt. You have a couple of options potentially. You could temporarily reconnect the old IPC again and reread and save the file. Or forscan has a built-in "as built" look up function now on most vehicles. You could search via your vin # and get the IPC as built for your truck and flash that to the new cluster.
Awesome video and info.! I just added a steering wheel to my 2014 Ford F150 XL V8 5L from a 2016 Ford Expedition Limited. Can you help me program the buttons on the steering wheel as none of them work right now?
Good afternoon. How do I change the shift selector display from PRNDM21 to PRNDM? checked thru forscan back and forth more than 10 times and can’t seem to find it.
@@sergiocubillos6164 Once programmed correctly like I show in the video everything works perfect just like it would have come from the factory. Its all in the video.
I bought one off a guy with about 30k more miles on it than my truck has, you said there is a way to get them to go back down, how might I do that? Serious question
iam trying to do this in my 2019 f250 and forescan is saying "service procedure has been interrupted" i also tried your way with saving original cluster and uploading it that way says not enough value blocks. do you have any insight a to why this is happening?
Yes all of that was covered in the video You do need an extended license. forscan.org/download.html Will also need extended license (Instructions are on download page)
Is there a place to buy the cluster from the raptop or sport model? I have forscan and the scan tool just trying to price the cluster and the option I can get with forscan compared to what one seller can do with lights logos and sport mod ect...
@@JackofAllMasterofNone so the only thing i need to manually do is the mileage and the hours? Also for the mileage do i put in the decimal and the numbers after. Or just the numbers before the decimal?
Most likely not. It will function but you will have multiple errors on the display every time you start the truck if it doesn't match the feature set of your truck exactly.
It should yes. I can not 100% guarantee that though. Usually dealers order them with the mileage pre programmed so I'm not sure if you bought a new one if they would ask... Programming it with as built data would be the same.
I tried to rewrite the engine hours in idle time under the forscan IPC I would write it in seconds once I hit right I got the message saying incomplete failed anyone know why
When I write all for my old cluster data to the new cluster that took away all the new clusters features my old cluster didn’t have anyone else have this issue.
It's the baseline you need to be at. Now you can go back with forscan and just enable the specific features that you want to add that your truck will support. For instance the compass in the display won't work if you don't have a compass module. You will have a bunch of error messages if you don't flash to your OEM build code
I followed your steps and was able to swap clusters and change odometer, engine hours and idle hours. Only issue I am having is getting the DTE to show above the fuel level and the digital temperatures to show above the coolant and transmission gauge. Any suggestions on how to add that?
I'm about to swap clusters. I understand the process for the odometer, but did you have to do anything for the engine hours or did they match what was on your old cluster? Might check "Ricardo's Workshop" channel for your question - he has a bunch of Forscan videos.
@@tnfrosty yes I had to change the engine and idle hours. You have to enter the amount of seconds for the engine and idle hours. The new forscan is pretty useful because no spreadsheet is needed, but I wish it was easier to navigate to the option you want to adjust
I love how pretty much whole dash is 7 mm. Makes it so easy to work on
Just programmed and installed in less than 30mins.
So easy thanks to you, the XL Peasant Saga upgrade continues….
Sync 1-->3 + wiring tailgate camera running under through the truck into the radio is next.
That’s definitely gonna be interesting…. wish me luck.
Love this channel btw
Awesome. 👍
Just upgraded my 2018 xl to the lariat steering wheel and cluster! Your vid was a huge help
Awesome. Enjoy!!!
About to do this TODAY! WISH ME LUCK JoAT!
This is a great place to have accurate and precise information, thanks for that. The only question I have is, once the original data is downloaded and flashed back to the new cluster, is the VIN # carry over to the new cluster?
Yes
Thanks for the fast response.@@JackofAllMasterofNone
I'm curious about something you did with FORScan after turning on the cluster for the first time. You hit "No" on the FORScan screen message that asked you to load your saved profile (VIN). Once all of the corrections are completed in the new cluster, is FORScan creating a new profile matching that new cluster?, and after that, do you consequently answer "Yes" confirming your truck profile on futures interventions with FORScan?
You can hit yes every time if you want. If you hit no It just doesn't scan for new modules each time so if you hit no it assumes you have the same setup. It still looks for dtcs though.
Thank you so much@@JackofAllMasterofNone
Prefect video. Saved me a bunch of headaches I didnt think of on my 2021.
Thanks !!
Love the video. I have a 2018 so will I need to do the relearn setting. Also do you have to put in your drive and idle hours.
Great video! Did you also add power fold mirrors or just puddle lights? I noticed the switch in your vent trim? I looked for a video to see if you had one for that upgrade but I couldn’t find one. Nice truck brother!
My truck came with puddle lights and side spot lights but no power fold mirrors. I haven't added them either. Don't need them. Thanks for the compliment.
I just did the exact swap. Follow you step by step thank you very much man huge help! Did you by chance figure out how to get the miles to empty above the fuel gauge? Any help would be great. Thanks again!!
It's not hard it's just a simple setting in forscan that I have not bothered to do. If you search Google you will find the answer pretty quickly.
Great video , Thaaanks man
Subscribed, hope to see more F150 content!
Besides updating mileage, can you do things like engine hours, trip meters, oil life percentage, etc?
Edit, rewatched, I see where you showed the engine hours.
@@BlueJeanF150 where in video did he redo the engine hours.
@@deweyyates7057 look at about the 22:15 mark
You cannot reset engine hours, only add to (like the miles) and like he mentions, it’s done in seconds. Somehow mine got jacked up and I have 3000 hours instead of 300 so be careful.
@@BlueJeanF150 do we put in exactly what is from our 4 inch cluster or do we have to convert that to seconds somehow.
@@BlueJeanF150 did you put your engine hours , idle time and mileage just as it was on old cluster?
Great video. I plan on doing this swap and was wondering if you had or knew where to find a step by step guide for doing the forscan part? It seems like there are a lot of options to go through in forscan and I would like to print of step by step instructions.
Sorry but I don't think there is a step by step guide. You have to just educate yourself and be careful. You can easily mess up your truck.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone thanks for getting back to me. Im going to follow your steps in the video.
I noticed the you reply for this message but you haven't reply or answered my question.. where do bought the cluster ???
Why you don't want to knowing ???
@@charlys1219h eBay. Just have to search for one
Ok now to find a new cluster for my 2015 F250.
Great job, also seem easy to follow. Do you have to add your vin also? I think I’m going to try it.
Great question
Let me know if you did figure this out
I was able to get it done, thanks
I just got a 2015 platinum
It does have navigation on it
I have a 2020 F250 XL 6.2L and I’ve found lots of these instrument clusters they are either diesel or 6.7L. Would these work on my truck?
Will a 2015 work on an 2018. That's my only concern. Don't want to fork out 300-500 and it's not compatible.
I have the same question. I found one in eBay but the selling told me it wouldn’t fit my 18’ and that I needed to get the right now for it. Which is $900 compare to the one he is selling for $550. So does it matter the year speedometer you get?
Did you ever get an answer to this? I believe it will but want to make sure. I’ve found a 15’ with milage slightly lower then mine, but want to make sure it’ll work. I’ve got a 2018 F150 XLT with sync 3 and 8” stereo screen
@@Wrensspeedshop No I did not. I ended up getting a 2019.
@@JetFixxxer I got ya. Thank you very much for getting back so quickly.
A 2017 will. Just tried it on my truck and worked
Very interesting. Thank you very much for the detailed video. I don’t think I have a function “Odometer Write” on my Crown Vic, unfortunately.
Yes, only a small number of newer Fords support the odometer write function.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone thank you for the reply, Jack.
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Can you please share part number.
I have a problem with mine. I did all the steps but I dont have the turbo gage on the cluster. Is there a way to get it back?
Did you figure it out
I just put an 8 inch in my xlt, and when I try to write the IPC as built that I just saved, forscan won't open it. Says corrupted or something.
I'm not sure what is going on. Maybe the file is corrupt. You have a couple of options potentially. You could temporarily reconnect the old IPC again and reread and save the file. Or forscan has a built-in "as built" look up function now on most vehicles. You could search via your vin # and get the IPC as built for your truck and flash that to the new cluster.
Awesome video and info.! I just added a steering wheel to my 2014 Ford F150 XL V8 5L from a 2016 Ford Expedition Limited. Can you help me program the buttons on the steering wheel as none of them work right now?
The buttons should work. There is no programming them. The expedition 2 years newer may not be compatible with your 2014 F-150.
Nice
That’s nice, where is the battery voltage monitor ?
Not sure what you mean
Did you add the mirror spot lights to?
u mentioned something about someone who can program the mileage and all the data, where do i find that
Thats awesome... but my truck only has 13k miles. I doubt ill find one with less
Would be best for you to buy a new cluster in that case most likely
@@JackofAllMasterofNone do you have any videos on how to add navigation?
Just came across your video. Where did you get your instrument cluster?
ebay
Where do bought the cluster ?
Can you post the link ?
Look on ebay
Excellent video, Where did you buy the unit from?
4D tech
Where is the best place to buy a lariat instrument cluster and where to get the scanner you used?
Good afternoon. How do I change the shift selector display from PRNDM21 to PRNDM?
checked thru forscan back and forth more than 10 times and can’t seem to find it.
Aside from the camera. How much did this whole set up cost u?
Thanks for the video!!! Any cluster from any year would work ?
No. There were changes with the 10 speed transmission in 2017. I would try to stick to the same year cluster if possible.
@Jack of All Master of None any problems with the gauges or do they show everything normal ?
@@sergiocubillos6164 Once programmed correctly like I show in the video everything works perfect just like it would have come from the factory. Its all in the video.
Does Sync version matter, my 2016 XLT has sync the new dealer cluster from a Lariat is Sync 2
Would the same apply to a 2016 navigator? How do you ensure the VIN is cloned?
Have you turned on any of the “other options” on your 8” display? Like Air-fuel ratio, for example. If so, where do you see those gauges? Thanks
I have not messed with it yet. Sorry
Couldn't you get a cluster with a lower mileage, install it and not update it to the actual higher mileage?
You could but that is illegal.
Was the upgrade worth it and have you hade any problems from it? Thanks
Works great. Absolutely no problems
Is it possible to edit the engine and idle hours in the new cluster??
I bought one off a guy with about 30k more miles on it than my truck has, you said there is a way to get them to go back down, how might I do that? Serious question
The only way to do that is against the law and don't think anyone would show you that through this medium
Do the idle and engine hours transfer to the new cluster??
Curious why this cluster wouldn't work in a 2013..my 13 xlt cluster looks identical but never seen it done or offered by anyone
This will absolutely not work in a 2013. Completely different
The driving modes works ? I replace my 2020 STX IPC with a raptor 2020, All works fine wiathout boost gaguge and the Driving mode selector.
Did you find a fix?
@@xdmaino488xd8 not yet. Trying to search in forscan any missconfig. But all looks good
@@fmangua I’ve searched too but can find anything on it i swap my oem one back in and i can change driving modes weird that the 8inch doesn’t work
I know this video is old but I didn’t see this asked before and may be a dumb question… do I need to find a cluster from the same engine size?
Engine size doesn't matter
Will a 2019 4.2 work in my 2016 with the smallest screen?
Is there a way to update a cluster in a 2016 platinum to have the newer stuff like the speed limit sign next to the speedometer and everything?
All that info comes from the navigation system. You would have to upgrade to sync 3 most likely.
iam trying to do this in my 2019 f250 and forescan is saying "service procedure has been interrupted" i also tried your way with saving original cluster and uploading it that way says not enough value blocks. do you have any insight a to why this is happening?
It sounds to me like possibly the cluster you have is not the correct part. But that is just a guess
I troed upgrading my 2inch to a 4inch, and i get an error when i try and upload the as built data into the new cluster. Any ideas?
Are you sure you have the right part? It had to be from the same year F150
Which version do you buy when you go buy the programmer to flash your data to the new gauge
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This will work fine
When I try to run the forscan program for configuration and programming it says I need an extended license
Yes all of that was covered in the video You do need an extended license.
forscan.org/download.html
Will also need extended license (Instructions are on download page)
Do you know if it voids the trucks warranty when you switch out the cluster?
I'm sure it does. My truck is way out of warranty.
My base cluster doesn’t have the 2 1 after the prndm…. Will this still work. My truck is 2018 3.5 eco with 10 speed. Thanks
Yes it should still work fine
Is there a place to buy the cluster from the raptop or sport model? I have forscan and the scan tool just trying to price the cluster and the option I can get with forscan compared to what one seller can do with lights logos and sport mod ect...
eBay
Do you know the part number for the new cluster?
I added a 22 cluster to a 21 f250 but have a weird chime when driving and turning wheel no lights or warnings
Humm. I'm not sure about the compatibility after 2020 models. Did you flash your as built data from the original cluster to the new one?
@@JackofAllMasterofNone yes I did I’m thinking it may be the adaptive steering has a different clock spring but I’m lost
My trucl dont have that ipc configuration whta can i do?
Can you use the boost/vac gauge on the 5.0 truck with a S/C or turbo?
Not sure. I doubt it. Unless the 5.0 uses the same sensor to read vacuum / boost
Do you have to manually change the enging hours? Or does it transfer over?
I believe you need to manually edit them
@@JackofAllMasterofNone so the only thing i need to manually do is the mileage and the hours? Also for the mileage do i put in the decimal and the numbers after. Or just the numbers before the decimal?
I bought a cluster and the guy lied about the miles and it has 125k and mine has 73 k is there any way to get the 125k cluster programmed to 73k?
Possibly a speedometer shop. If you search around on eBay people offer the service.
So your telling me I can buy another cluster and change the mileage 😮 that way I can sell my truck for more
That would be illegal (felony crime) and you would go to prison if caught and convicted. But yes. It's that easy.
Will this work for a 2017 f-450?
Do you think this process would work going from 2" to 4"?
Yes. In fact it's the exact same procedure.
What year clusters will work?
Any luck?
When I try to get IPC configuration it says " sorry, you need an extended license to run this function" ???
Yes. You need an extended license
forscan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=67017#p67022
@@JackofAllMasterofNone got it done, thanx
can this be done with the 21 f150?
will this work for plug and play ? i found one with 1217 less miles than mine
Most likely not. It will function but you will have multiple errors on the display every time you start the truck if it doesn't match the feature set of your truck exactly.
Does this process work the same with a brand new cluster?
It should yes. I can not 100% guarantee that though. Usually dealers order them with the mileage pre programmed so I'm not sure if you bought a new one if they would ask... Programming it with as built data would be the same.
Would an f150 cluster world in a f250 gas 6.2? Same engine right?
No
Can I do this with my 21 f150?
I tried to rewrite the engine hours in idle time under the forscan IPC I would write it in seconds once I hit right I got the message saying incomplete failed anyone know why
I read you have to put hours x 3600 for accurate hours to show. Check the forums.
Can you please tell us where we can buy the 4in and 8in clusters?
Ebay
I have a 4in for sale if you have yet to find one
When I write all for my old cluster data to the new cluster that took away all the new clusters features my old cluster didn’t have anyone else have this issue.
So you got into the bcm or bdycm I think forscan calls it and turn on off-road display
It's the baseline you need to be at. Now you can go back with forscan and just enable the specific features that you want to add that your truck will support. For instance the compass in the display won't work if you don't have a compass module. You will have a bunch of error messages if you don't flash to your OEM build code
Thank you so much your video helped a lot and I really appreciate the time you took to make a detailed video like that .
What year is your truck and what trim?
Mine is a 2015 XL trim
I’m not seeing ipc, what’s wrong?
What obd device are you using? If using the bbfly one with the switch, you have to switch it when prompted
@@JackofAllMasterofNone im using the cheap one you have in the description and i flip it to the right and nothing
Did i need 2 keys or i can do it with 1?
Keys don't matter for the instrument cluster upgrade
@@JackofAllMasterofNone it works if i find the same cluster similar miles and functions plug and play or still need to do the programming
? Thanks
Did yours come from an f150
Yes
Does this work on f250's aswell?
Should be the same procedure but can't guarantee it as I havent personally done a super duty of this generation
Will this work on my 2015 xlt
Yes
Link to clusters??
Junkyard or eBay
Good luck.
I did the swap and i cant go to sport mode any fixes?
Did you inhale the as built data from your OEM cluster and then flash it to the new one?
@@JackofAllMasterofNone yes all the errors were removed but cant change to either tow mode or sports mode
@@xdmaino488xd8 What year is your truck? Im not sure what would cause that except maybe the wrong year instrument cluster possibly.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone 2019 XL yea im assuming its the cluster
@@JackofAllMasterofNone cluster is out of 2016 6 speed my truck is a 6 speed 2019
Where can I find one
eBay
Will forscan work on Mac?
No
Actually it could, but you would need to download vmware and open up a virtual windows pc on a separate partition. Watch UA-cam videos how to do that.
Please help me someone
I followed your steps and was able to swap clusters and change odometer, engine hours and idle hours. Only issue I am having is getting the DTE to show above the fuel level and the digital temperatures to show above the coolant and transmission gauge. Any suggestions on how to add that?
I'm about to swap clusters. I understand the process for the odometer, but did you have to do anything for the engine hours or did they match what was on your old cluster? Might check "Ricardo's Workshop" channel for your question - he has a bunch of Forscan videos.
@@tnfrosty yes I had to change the engine and idle hours. You have to enter the amount of seconds for the engine and idle hours. The new forscan is pretty useful because no spreadsheet is needed, but I wish it was easier to navigate to the option you want to adjust
@@bantizzle79 Much appreciated!
@@tnfrosty let me know if DTE shows up for you or how you enabled it.
@@tnfrosty i figured it out. All of the gauges show numerical numbers above them now. I had the wrong spreadsheet code at first.
Can you just have the lariat cluster or can a king ranch cluster go in and in what order should I buy the things to set this all up