I just bought one and I love it! Your test example is the final version. I’ve covered 1,500 miles since I bought it and the mpg for this distance is 43.1 mpg.
Just got this in the limited edition last week and I am loving everything about it. I got the Sandlewood brown interior and I am very pleased with that. We really have found the backseat to be quite spacious.
In the market for exactly this class of car. I was ready to buy a 2024 Toyota Venza Limited this week until I saw the capabilities of the 2025 Crown Signia Limited. I’m planning to order a Crown Signia Limited and wait til it arrives. BTW, I’ve driven every ‘competitor’ from Audi, Subaru, Genesis, Lexus, BMW. The Crown Signia is my choice, as it delivers both the performance and the value. It’ll make it a 3-Toyota garage. 😊
I would prefer smaller diameter wheels with higher sidewalls. 17" or 18" wheels would render higher mpg and lower tire costs. This heavy vehicle will grind down tires quickly. Higher sidewalls would also make for a smoother ride and fewer pot hole flats and broken wheels. I hate being the victim of fashion over function. Just being practical. I don't need 21 inch wheels to feel like a man.
I agree with you. I have a 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road and thankfully it came with the 16” wheels. We live in a very mountainous area with lots of service and forest roads. The taller sidewalls of my tires absorb a lot. I have friends who opted for 17 or 18” wheels and their trucks are jarring to ride in. They say that they did it for more ground clearance but my truck can go anywhere they can go.
I don't think you have been car shopping lately. Toyota has had vehicles north of $50k for quite some time now. Even the Camry now can be had for as high as $43k. Heck...there is even a $35k Corolla.
I would buy only if they give it the more powerful engine like in the Crown. I would definitely purchase if they came out with a plug-in hybrid! That is what I really prefer.
@@DeeEllEff The two dealerships I use have both their Lexus and Toyota dealerships side-by-side. Though there are couches in the waiting areas of each.
@@entasis.fifty-four Since the first car I ever bought with my own money was a 1985 Corolla GT-S 5-speed hatchback, the current somnambulant (look that 1 up!) CVT-bound crossovers (like the Corolla Cross!) make me sad & angry!
Funny you should say this. We actually looked at the Lexus NX first and then walked right next-door and bought the Crown Signia. The deciding factor for us was that the backseat was so much roomier.
Looking forward to test driving this myself. But no word on when it’s to arrive at the dealers. The price is steep! Probably look at the XLE model or go over to Lexus
Interesting review. Might have a look at the vehicle. One absent evaluation: a couple of reviews elsewhere have panned the deluxe JBL sound systems in the Crown line-up. Very strong negative reviews of that system. Sounds system is important to me.
That's interesting. Sound systems are very important to my wife and I. We have walked away from many possible vehicle purchases because the stereo was lame. We just test drove the new crown insignia this morning.......and it is sitting in our garage!
I wouldn’t touch a Turbo with a 10’ pole. Historically they simply don’t last as long as a naturally aspirated engine and we keep our vehicles for 15-20 years or 250K to 300K miles. They’re just transportation and we drive them until they don’t have much life left and then we donate them to a charity for the tax deduction.
I almost choked on my breakfast seeing the price tag on these: $50k USD?! Isn't the whole point of hybrids saving gas = saving money? At this price point, one can get a Subaru Outback XT for $40k fully speced, just say damn the gas costs, and still come out on top after 10 years. Oh, and by the way the Subie will absolutely destroy the Crown Signia in almost every performance metric except for fuel economy: towing capacity, acceleration, all-time AWD, ground clearance, handling, torque, interior space, etc.
Nice looking car, a bit pricey for sure. However once you step up to the Limited, there are not many more options. Love the estimated MPG rating. My wife and I have been waiting since the beginning of July for this car to land on some dealer’s lot here in Phoenix, just to test drive it. Hopefully none of the Toyota dealers here participate in “Market Adjustment” pricing. That would really turn us off for this car. If they don’t operate that way, then we just might drive one home. We’ll see!
Great review. I think it's better looking than a Lexus, shares the same drivetrain as the Lexus hybrids, and has all the features I'd need (except for HUD). I've been in contact with dealerships since February and I've been told they will be receiving very limited numbers of Signia's - which will result in long wait times.
Yes, I have read a couple sources that said the U.S. will only receive around 20 thousand yearly. If that's true you can only expect one or two per dealership monthly. I already have a deposit down at my dealer, but I have been very specific on what I want, so time will tell.
@@proletariat7072 What an odd thing to say. I didn’t say I wasn’t interested, I said the price is too high for the Limited, the XLE is still good at ~$43k. Also, I don’t care about what salesman get paid for. It’s not like dealerships don’t waste our time with the dumb games they’ve been playing for the past few years. I’ll go test drive as many cars as I’d like.
@@proletariat7072 If I were a salesman, I'd take all the test drives I could get from people who are interested in test driving it. Some people will change their minds afterwards and perhaps come back a few weeks later. Objections are opportunities.
If Toyota would build a proper squared off (not sport back) high mpg station wagon that could start in the lower to mid 30k range, like a Camry LE wagon they would sell like hotcakes. Especially if it was available with AWD in any trim level like the 25 Camry can be had. Just offer a wagon body Camry in all trim levels from LE to XSE. That's what people want. Something affordable. I'll bet Toyota already has the body developed for other markets.
My Venza has a spare tire, not full size but better than a can of stop-flat. Spare has already seen use when hitting road debris. Tire was shredded. Can of goo wasn’t going to work. I don’t know if I would ever buy a car without a spare. Sorry Toyota, I’m keeping the Venza.
Totally agree. I want to get back on the road quickly and not need a tow. Three different times I've had my spare already on by the time AAA got there. On two of the instances, I was able to cancel the call. One of them, it was going to be 2 hrs before they were there, and twice, the original couldn't be repaired
I sat in a Crown sedan. I have the 2024 Venza Limited and the only feature I appreciate in the Crown is the vertical QI charging plate. The Venza limited has the same features except heated rear seats. But, never had anyone in the back tell me their butt is cold. The Venza dash and layout in the front I feel is as premium as Lexus and great ride quality and Stargaze roof. So, not impressed. I am sad they are discounting the Venza because I may have to back to a Rav (though I like the Rav I like the Venza a bit better). I get the same mpg as they say with the Crown is to get
I've been driving Lexus cars since 2001 and they've actually been an affordable choice because repair costs have been negligible. But as I look for a new car, I see that, while pricey, the Crown Signia offers a lot of features that I'd have to pay extra in an NX or RX. Plus the Toyota reputation for reliability nearly matches Lexus. I'm highly drawn to the Signia and one may replace my RX.
An amazingly well built and fuel efficient wagon. Please comment on no spare tire. Although rare flats do occur. What if you get a flat in a desolate area?
No spare tire? Had run flats on my SC430. Does no good when a run flat completely disintegrates which it did; fortunately at home. Got rid of them and got at least a donut spare.
It's not a wagon and its only a 4 cylinder engine, something required for a premium wagon at this price point. Ask Volvo how well their 4 cylinder V90 is selling with its premium price and unrefined 4 cylinder power train. Lately Toyota's quality is also not great. I'd prefer a new MB E450 All Terrain with its butter smooth inline 6 cylinder and the Audi A6 Allroad. The Platinum is $55K and that is premium vehicle pricing territory.
@@ironinquisitor3656 If they sold it as a wagon in the USA they'd have NO sales! It is a crossover not a wagon. Who cares what its called? They call the Outback an SUV and we all know its a wagon. Names are part of marketing and marketing is BS.
I really like this product. I am willing to overlook the CVT and the electric AWD. However, the lack of a sunroof that opens is a dealbreaker for me. Otherwise, this is really, really nice. For me, though, the Mazda CX-70 Premium Plus, at slightly under $51k, is very enticing.
@@addanametocontinue Our oldest car is now six years old, and we have not experienced any leaks. Before this our cars were 13 and 9 nine years old, respectively, and we never experienced any leaks. I did experience leaks in a Mazda GLC 30 years ago, though. Nonetheless, as far as I am concerned, if there is glass up top, it must open. In fact, outside of a sports car, I won’t buy a care without an opening sunroof.
@@JWFas I don’t question its reliability; I just don’t like the sound and the sensation under hard acceleration. I must say, though, that in my 2016 Outback 3.6R Limited, I didn’t mind the CVT one bit because that powertrain was so incredibly smooth, both in sensation and in sound.
My wife is disabled and I am short. A vehicle closer to the ground is right up my street. Now if it only came with a 3.5 V6 I would be first in line to buy one.
Same boat. I’m a paraplegic and getting in and out in SUVs is a challenge. I have had MBZ wagons and a 2006 Volvo V70R. They work well including the chair fits in the back
I have a 2013 Lexus RX450h made in Japan. The quality seems pretty good, and the SUV does not give me trouble. According to Toyota, Crown Signia is also made in Japan. I am interested in this wagon ( I had a Camry V6 wagon 30 years ago). My major concern is that it seems a little small. The price may be fine with me, as one of my relatives just bought a Lexus RX350 for over $70k (including tax).
Nice review. Now, you mention that it is the most comfortable ride of any Toyota you have ever driven. I always really liked the ride of the Avalon - have you driven that one, and how would you say they compare?
Why would you buy a vehicle without a spare tire and also what’s the purpose of of having a huge glass roof that you can’t even open it 😢 plus the price will be super expensive 😢
Toyota is making the same mistake a lot of the other auto manufactures made during the pandemic, taking their vehicles upscale, along with the price, and making expensive vehicles no one wants.
not true, I would say that is not applicable for every one. There are many friends I know that they only want Toyota engine, Toyota badges, but demand somewhat more luxury style. And they do say NO to Lexus
Exterior design is very good, though still front-driver proportions, i.e., big front overhang. Inside, kind of odd that the passenger seems more tightly enveloped than the driver. I dislike the info screen extending out from the IP. Wish it was lower/closer and mounted in the center stack. My main reservation is lack of power. It'd be cool with the Crown sedan's higher hp option. Also, this won't be cheap.
That’s true, but they also have a totally redesigned one this year and non-hybrid. And of course, the hybrid will be more expensive. Besides, I need a car now lol.
Probably the seventh review I've seen where the reviewer implies or says that this car is expensive. Do you really expect it to be priced like a corolla or Camry? If you look at Toyota's website the Highlander Hybrid starts at around $41k, the 4runner at $40k, and the Land Cruiser at $56k. You can get a Tacoma that costs $46k and a Tundra that costs $58k. My point is, considering Toyota's line-up, the average new car transaction price in the U.S. for 2024 (around $42k), and the fact that this car is built in and imported from Japan and has near-Lexus levels of comfort and build quality, this car is priced pretty competitively.
I have a 2015 Volvo XC60 t6 and it has served me very well, but the service and quality of their new vehicles is simply subpar with cheaper build materials to including noise dampening which is a deal breaker for me. So I am walking away from Volvo probably forever and choosing this Toyota Crown Wagon to take its place, it is a shame that almost no automakers other than Volvo offer passenger lumbar support
Thanks for point out the loss of legroom in the Crown Signia vs Crown sedan. I am baffled by this decision by Toyota. Why do this? I recently test drove Crown sedan and decided that Crown Signia was probably my next car and now I find out that it isn't 1:1 and you lose legroom by going to Signia variant. I don't understand it.
I'll pass. I'm a lifelong toyota guy but I'm not liking the direction they are going in. 4 runner with a 4 cylinder turbo and sequoia with a 6. No thanks. Honda here I come
I hope Toyota offers Tan or Brown leather interior. That Gloomy Gray and Death Black is 35 years old and Outdated and boring. My 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road came with Black Leather interior and I had Katzkin make me Lava Red Leather seat covers immediately. I sold the black leather seat covers to someone who had gloomy Grey and death black cloth seats in their 3rd gen Tacoma. My wife and I have already decided that when her Outback wears out, we’re replacing it with the Crown Signa as long as we can get Tan Leather interior like her Outback.
Test drove today - too small for my liking and rides to low to the ground… seats are small - going to look at Subaru Outback in a couple days and compare plus it’s 10,000+ grand less I believe
At a price point of $50,000 this vehicle enters the realm of German luxury cars, yet it does not offer the same level of luxury. It is simply too expensive.
60% of new cars do not come with a spare. I just purchased a Crown Sedan spare tire and wheel for my Crown Signia -- $200. "Stole" the jack from my Venza before trading it in. All is good.
@@edgarten7593Does the spare actually fit in the wheel shaped cutout under the load floor? I’ve heard it’s too shallow, but haven’t seen anything definitive.
Not an appealing vehicle for practicalities! I better stay put with my 2022 Toyota hybrid Rav 4 Adventure as my Rav 4 is more practical, very fast, spacious, best gas mileage, very comfortable & allows me for off roading. This Signia is nothing near a Rav 4 and on top this tiny Signia is way too expensive. I can't act as a fool and allow myself to buy such a compact station wagon for such an exorbitant price. We need a vehicle that will give us everything for an affordable price. So, I'm sorry if an offending other when I say that this is nothing near my Rav 4 Hybrid Adventure. Guys, you want a powerful, robust, high fuel efficient, good for off roading, fast, capable of allowing you to bring loads or tons of stuffs, then take your hard-earned money & go for a Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid. Why the heck would Toyota want to bring such a vehicle when the Rav 4 is already out there? At times, technology just gets people crazy about wanting to buy a new product just because it's full of tech! Not all vehicles loaded with technology out there are worth your every penny. Beware, don't get into that trap. I didn't like Chinese vehicles as hearing people saying don't go for Chinese vehicles as they aren't worth & that got me very curious & this year, I bought myself the Haval H6 Hybrid. To my greatest surprise, it's a very reliable vehicle, high on fuel efficiency, very spacious interior, boot is cavernous & it's already 3 months since I bought it, I must say that I have started loving it as it's very practical, very smooth, fully loaded with new technologies but, I have still kept my Toyota Rav 4 Adventure Hybrid as it's a little bit smaller & my wife loves the Rav 4. So, I have got both the Chinese compact SUV and the Japanese compact SUV. If I compare both, I'll say that the Haval H6 is the winner as it's more sophisticated compared to the Rav 4, bigger with more cargo areas, plenty of leg rooms, no roaring sound when you press on the gas pedal compared to the Rav 4. It has everything to please you. It's now my daily driven car.
It does not come with a spare tire. I would not want this on a long road trip. I would prefer the Subaru Outback Wilderness which sits higher, has a full size spare tire, better always on awd, is roomier and is cheaper. It will also last longer.
Boxer engines tend to be more of a complicated system and when damaged cost an arm and a leg more then the traditional Toyota engine system. However, the Subaru like you said has incredible AWD system . As you have stated and a friend of mine who owns a Subaru Outback has expressed to me, this is true.
Yeah it scares the sheet... a $60K SUV without reclining rear seats! Folks, $60K! Go on a road trip and be a rear passenger and tell if that's comfortable?!?
I just bought one and I love it! Your test example is the final version. I’ve covered 1,500 miles since I bought it and the mpg for this distance is 43.1 mpg.
Just got this in the limited edition last week and I am loving everything about it. I got the Sandlewood brown interior and I am very pleased with that. We really have found the backseat to be quite spacious.
@@caroljones1561 Ciao Carol, I got the same interior with the Oxygen White; maxed out 🏎️
Congrats to you 👍🏾
Just bought one yesterday in all black, absolutely love the car
Hanson you gave the best review of Signia; and I have seen them all.Thank you. I am buying the Toyota Crown signia limited fully loaded..
That means a lot. Thank you so much!
Wait for the IIHS ruling...not sure about safety cert.
In the market for exactly this class of car. I was ready to buy a 2024 Toyota Venza Limited this week until I saw the capabilities of the 2025 Crown Signia Limited. I’m planning to order a Crown Signia Limited and wait til it arrives. BTW, I’ve driven every ‘competitor’ from Audi, Subaru, Genesis, Lexus, BMW. The Crown Signia is my choice, as it delivers both the performance and the value. It’ll make it a 3-Toyota garage. 😊
I just purchased one of these wonderful cars! They are very lugubrious, and ride and handling are top notch!
You bought a signia? Didn’t know the suv was out.
Let’s get this thing built and at dealers already! I want black with tan interior 👍🏽
I would prefer smaller diameter wheels with higher sidewalls. 17" or 18" wheels would render higher mpg and lower tire costs. This heavy vehicle will grind down tires quickly. Higher sidewalls would also make for a smoother ride and fewer pot hole flats and broken wheels. I hate being the victim of fashion over function. Just being practical. I don't need 21 inch wheels to feel like a man.
The slightly lower trim version XLE comes with 19" and no pano roof. Both which are pluses in my mind not to mention the $5k lower price.
I agree with you.
I have a 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road and thankfully it came with the 16” wheels.
We live in a very mountainous area with lots of service and forest roads. The taller sidewalls of my tires absorb a lot.
I have friends who opted for 17 or 18” wheels and their trucks are jarring to ride in.
They say that they did it for more ground clearance but my truck can go anywhere they can go.
Exactly! I have bought 2 replacement rims and tires due to potholes.
@sttipkram yep pano roof will start leaking with bad seals 2 minutes after warranty expires...badly installed pano a headache in so many cars!!!
I would really appreciate a comparison view of crown signia and rx.
Two thumbs up for an understated, superlative absent, review.
Such a nice looking car. It's pricey for a Toyota, but it's the intended market for the Crown.
I don't think you have been car shopping lately. Toyota has had vehicles north of $50k for quite some time now. Even the Camry now can be had for as high as $43k. Heck...there is even a $35k Corolla.
@@gleej8120 The longer you put it off, the higher the price goes.
Very very very pricey for a toyota not sure it will find a niche!
Quickly becoming my favorite go-to channel. Jam packed data & specs with info buyers need to know.
Thank you!! It’s good to have you on board.
I would buy only if they give it the more powerful engine like in the Crown. I would definitely purchase if they came out with a plug-in hybrid! That is what I really prefer.
A nice vehicle, but at the expected pricing one might as well just walk over to the Lexus dealership.
@@entasis.fifty-four This just in: Lexus customers don’t “walk over” anywhere; they ride their living room couches!😏
@@DeeEllEff The two dealerships I use have both their Lexus and Toyota dealerships side-by-side. Though there are couches in the waiting areas of each.
@@entasis.fifty-four Since the first car I ever bought with my own money was a 1985 Corolla GT-S 5-speed hatchback, the current somnambulant (look that 1 up!) CVT-bound crossovers (like the Corolla Cross!) make me sad & angry!
Funny you should say this. We actually looked at the Lexus NX first and then walked right next-door and bought the Crown Signia. The deciding factor for us was that the backseat was so much roomier.
@@caroljones1561 that’s because it’s longer though correct
Looking forward to test driving this myself. But no word on when it’s to arrive at the dealers. The price is steep! Probably look at the XLE model or go over to Lexus
Interesting review. Might have a look at the vehicle. One absent evaluation: a couple of reviews elsewhere have panned the deluxe JBL sound systems in the Crown line-up. Very strong negative reviews of that system. Sounds system is important to me.
That's interesting. Sound systems are very important to my wife and I. We have walked away from many possible vehicle purchases because the stereo was lame. We just test drove the new crown insignia this morning.......and it is sitting in our garage!
Great review as you hit the important points.
I wouldn’t touch a Turbo with a 10’ pole. Historically they simply don’t last as long as a naturally aspirated engine and we keep our vehicles for 15-20 years or 250K to 300K miles.
They’re just transportation and we drive them until they don’t have much life left and then we donate them to a charity for the tax deduction.
It is very attractive. I can only find fault with the the unhidden rear wiper and lack of the hybrid max engine.
Def agree, seems like a no brainer move to help clean up the back end.
I almost choked on my breakfast seeing the price tag on these: $50k USD?! Isn't the whole point of hybrids saving gas = saving money? At this price point, one can get a Subaru Outback XT for $40k fully speced, just say damn the gas costs, and still come out on top after 10 years. Oh, and by the way the Subie will absolutely destroy the Crown Signia in almost every performance metric except for fuel economy: towing capacity, acceleration, all-time AWD, ground clearance, handling, torque, interior space, etc.
Nice looking car, a bit pricey for sure. However once you step up to the Limited, there are not many more options. Love the estimated MPG rating. My wife and I have been waiting since the beginning of July for this car to land on some dealer’s lot here in Phoenix, just to test drive it. Hopefully none of the Toyota dealers here participate in “Market Adjustment” pricing. That would really turn us off for this car. If they don’t operate that way, then we just might drive one home. We’ll see!
As I stated above, I have a deposit down at my dealer here in Florida. I made a deal up front no "market adjustment pricing."
Great review. I think it's better looking than a Lexus, shares the same drivetrain as the Lexus hybrids, and has all the features I'd need (except for HUD). I've been in contact with dealerships since February and I've been told they will be receiving very limited numbers of Signia's - which will result in long wait times.
Thanks for the feedback! Good luck with your Signia hunt!
Yes, I have read a couple sources that said the U.S. will only receive around 20 thousand yearly. If that's true you can only expect one or two per dealership monthly. I already have a deposit down at my dealer, but I have been very specific on what I want, so time will tell.
50k is just too much for the fully loaded one. It should’ve started at high 30s and maxed out at 45k.
Still looking forward to test driving this.
If you are not looking to buy, do not test drive. Salesman are not paid to show you a car you aren't interested in.
@@proletariat7072 What an odd thing to say. I didn’t say I wasn’t interested, I said the price is too high for the Limited, the XLE is still good at ~$43k.
Also, I don’t care about what salesman get paid for. It’s not like dealerships don’t waste our time with the dumb games they’ve been playing for the past few years. I’ll go test drive as many cars as I’d like.
@@proletariat7072 If I were a salesman, I'd take all the test drives I could get from people who are interested in test driving it. Some people will change their minds afterwards and perhaps come back a few weeks later. Objections are opportunities.
@@Fadic4You were right on point with the price comment. Some people get way too emotional over little things.
If Toyota would build a proper squared off (not sport back) high mpg station wagon that could start in the lower to mid 30k range, like a Camry LE wagon they would sell like hotcakes. Especially if it was available with AWD in any trim level like the 25 Camry can be had. Just offer a wagon body Camry in all trim levels from LE to XSE. That's what people want. Something affordable. I'll bet Toyota already has the body developed for other markets.
Nice review. I'm looking forward to a test dr.
My Venza has a spare tire, not full size but better than a can of stop-flat. Spare has already seen use when hitting road debris. Tire was shredded. Can of goo wasn’t going to work. I don’t know if I would ever buy a car without a spare. Sorry Toyota, I’m keeping the Venza.
you must be a boomer LOL
@@jamesvelvet3612 and proud of it
I would be ordering a new Venza if they had a 2025
@@journeywithstu7199 And we know how to change a tire.
Totally agree. I want to get back on the road quickly and not need a tow.
Three different times I've had my spare already on by the time AAA got there. On two of the instances, I was able to cancel the call. One of them, it was going to be 2 hrs before they were there, and twice, the original couldn't be repaired
If u can get offroad review like light trails i wonder how capable is that AWD system is.Great review
I sat in a Crown sedan. I have the 2024 Venza Limited and the only feature I appreciate in the Crown is the vertical QI charging plate.
The Venza limited has the same features except heated rear seats. But, never had anyone in the back tell me their butt is cold.
The Venza dash and layout in the front I feel is as premium as Lexus and great ride quality and Stargaze roof.
So, not impressed. I am sad they are discounting the Venza because I may have to back to a Rav (though I like the Rav I like the Venza a bit better).
I get the same mpg as they say with the Crown is to get
I've been driving Lexus cars since 2001 and they've actually been an affordable choice because repair costs have been negligible. But as I look for a new car, I see that, while pricey, the Crown Signia offers a lot of features that I'd have to pay extra in an NX or RX. Plus the Toyota reputation for reliability nearly matches Lexus. I'm highly drawn to the Signia and one may replace my RX.
An amazingly well built and fuel efficient wagon. Please comment on no spare tire. Although rare flats do occur. What if you get a flat in a desolate area?
No spare tire? Had run flats on my SC430. Does no good when a run flat completely disintegrates which it did; fortunately at home. Got rid of them and got at least a donut spare.
I can tell you that we are looking forward to it and we live in the states
It's not a wagon and its only a 4 cylinder engine, something required for a premium wagon at this price point. Ask Volvo how well their 4 cylinder V90 is selling with its premium price and unrefined 4 cylinder power train. Lately Toyota's quality is also not great. I'd prefer a new MB E450 All Terrain with its butter smooth inline 6 cylinder and the Audi A6 Allroad. The Platinum is $55K and that is premium vehicle pricing territory.
It is a wagon. it's literally called the "Crown Estate" overseas. Estate means wagon.
@@ironinquisitor3656 If they sold it as a wagon in the USA they'd have NO sales! It is a crossover not a wagon. Who cares what its called? They call the Outback an SUV and we all know its a wagon. Names are part of marketing and marketing is BS.
@@fleuger99 Lol.
I really like this product. I am willing to overlook the CVT and the electric AWD. However, the lack of a sunroof that opens is a dealbreaker for me. Otherwise, this is really, really nice.
For me, though, the Mazda CX-70 Premium Plus, at slightly under $51k, is very enticing.
Toyota's CVT isn't a belt driven one. It's an e-CVT with a planetary gear system that's actually reliable.
No opening sunroof means no chances for leaks. I've had my current car for 12 years and I haven't opened the mooroof more than a hundred times.
@@addanametocontinue Our oldest car is now six years old, and we have not experienced any leaks. Before this our cars were 13 and 9 nine years old, respectively, and we never experienced any leaks. I did experience leaks in a Mazda GLC 30 years ago, though. Nonetheless, as far as I am concerned, if there is glass up top, it must open. In fact, outside of a sports car, I won’t buy a care without an opening sunroof.
@@JWFas I don’t question its reliability; I just don’t like the sound and the sensation under hard acceleration. I must say, though, that in my 2016 Outback 3.6R Limited, I didn’t mind the CVT one bit because that powertrain was so incredibly smooth, both in sensation and in sound.
Awesome looking estate. Count me in Signia !
My wife is disabled and I am short. A vehicle closer to the ground is right up my street. Now if it only came with a 3.5 V6 I would be first in line to buy one.
Same boat. I’m a paraplegic and getting in and out in SUVs is a challenge. I have had MBZ wagons and a 2006 Volvo V70R. They work well including the chair fits in the back
I have the 2.4 which gets 40 mpg. Not sure if the Crown will have a 3.5. It's about gas milage.
Cool. Good review
Nice but price is way too expensive for a non luxury brand.
Why oh why can we not have rear yellow turn signals.
I have a 2013 Lexus RX450h made in Japan. The quality seems pretty good, and the SUV does not give me trouble. According to Toyota, Crown Signia is also made in Japan. I am interested in this wagon ( I had a Camry V6 wagon 30 years ago). My major concern is that it seems a little small. The price may be fine with me, as one of my relatives just bought a Lexus RX350 for over $70k (including tax).
If you live on a hill, which tires, front or rear, would chains go on to get home in a snowstorm?
TBH, I am going to Purchase a 2 inch Lift Kit and place it upon the New XLE version & this Vehicle Will be Perfect 😮🎉🇺🇸🇨🇦!!
Nice review. Now, you mention that it is the most comfortable ride of any Toyota you have ever driven. I always really liked the ride of the Avalon - have you driven that one, and how would you say they compare?
Have driven it. The review is on this channel too. The Avalon rode nicely, but this one feels a touch better imo, and more up to date.
Sitting in the Highlander is way more comfortable for me…. If you are looking test drive different models. See what feels best for you
Why would you buy a vehicle without a spare tire and also what’s the purpose of of having a huge glass roof that you can’t even open it 😢 plus the price will be super expensive 😢
Dumb question is it a big deal to buy an aftermarket spare tire for a car that doesn’t come with one? Or is the issue of space of where to put it?
Toyota is making the same mistake a lot of the other auto manufactures made during the pandemic, taking their vehicles upscale, along with the price, and making expensive vehicles no one wants.
not true, I would say that is not applicable for every one. There are many friends I know that they only want Toyota engine, Toyota badges, but demand somewhat more luxury style. And they do say NO to Lexus
Exterior design is very good, though still front-driver proportions, i.e., big front overhang.
Inside, kind of odd that the passenger seems more tightly enveloped than the driver. I dislike the info screen extending out from the IP. Wish it was lower/closer and mounted in the center stack.
My main reservation is lack of power. It'd be cool with the Crown sedan's higher hp option. Also, this won't be cheap.
Hybrid Subaru Forester next year. I'll wait!!!
That’s true, but they also have a totally redesigned one this year and non-hybrid. And of course, the hybrid will be more expensive. Besides, I need a car now lol.
It misses fog lights... Subaru is not even scared of this wagon, Volvo could probably.
Probably the seventh review I've seen where the reviewer implies or says that this car is expensive. Do you really expect it to be priced like a corolla or Camry? If you look at Toyota's website the Highlander Hybrid starts at around $41k, the 4runner at $40k, and the Land Cruiser at $56k. You can get a Tacoma that costs $46k and a Tundra that costs $58k. My point is, considering Toyota's line-up, the average new car transaction price in the U.S. for 2024 (around $42k), and the fact that this car is built in and imported from Japan and has near-Lexus levels of comfort and build quality, this car is priced pretty competitively.
Since there is no HUD, can you get a moving map o the instrument cluster (MID)? I sure hope so!
Are their any issues if this hybrid car is parked for 2 or 3 months in a hot flordia garage while taking long vacations?
Man no factory tinted windows
I was very interested in this car, but no tinted windows and no spare tire are deal breakers for me.
How is it a cavernous cargo space with 24.8 cubic feet? Outback has 32.6 cubic feet.
This will compete with Lexus NX hybrid handsomely. I personally feel Lexus package design is aweful compared to Toyota.
The roof can not be opened. This is deal breaker.
Prefer they got rid of it on the Limited altogether- less weight and one less thing to break
Really wish they would offer a platinum version with the hybrid max powertrain!
It’s coming in a couple of years
Too expensive, the average family would not be able to afford. Nice car though.
I saw that that wireless phone charger stopped charging just moments after it started charging. Is that what it does?
That’s what most of these do.
I have a 2015 Volvo XC60 t6 and it has served me very well, but the service and quality of their new vehicles is simply subpar with cheaper build materials to including noise dampening which is a deal breaker for me. So I am walking away from Volvo probably forever and choosing this Toyota Crown Wagon to take its place, it is a shame that almost no automakers other than Volvo offer passenger lumbar support
The outback Subaru should have made
Is it actual leather or just vinyl that looks like leather that toyota always seems to market as some 'premium' material?
The seats are real leather.
Why not cover all the vehicle's important details like a Spare Tire? Does it have one? Can you buy one for this vehicle?
No spare tire in these
I’m getting one ☝️😁
It’s still not available where I live in Illinois
Toyota postponed the Signia until the fall of this year.
we have one available at my dealership. Its an incoming unit
@@dogie8c not true, we have one incoming
@@dug4895 that’s what my dealership told me.
@@dogie8c they lied, if you want to reserve our incoming one lmk
No spare tire?
How does this do against the RAV-4 Prime ?
Thanks for point out the loss of legroom in the Crown Signia vs Crown sedan. I am baffled by this decision by Toyota. Why do this? I recently test drove Crown sedan and decided that Crown Signia was probably my next car and now I find out that it isn't 1:1 and you lose legroom by going to Signia variant. I don't understand it.
At 50K, it’s not scaring any other manufacturer.
Why can't Toyota make a good looking steering wheel and the button layout on it!?
Mazda cx50, same power train, heated ventilated seats, etc for 1000s less
This Signia is going to be a hot seller, and Toyota dealers will probably ask way over MSRP.
and just like the PT cruiser, nobody's going to give a crap about it in a couple of years and then they won't be able to give them away.
AAA will substitute for a spare.
I'll pass. I'm a lifelong toyota guy but I'm not liking the direction they are going in. 4 runner with a 4 cylinder turbo and sequoia with a 6. No thanks. Honda here I come
I hope Toyota offers Tan or Brown leather interior.
That Gloomy Gray and Death Black is 35 years old and Outdated and boring.
My 23 Tacoma TRD Off Road came with Black Leather interior and I had Katzkin make me Lava Red Leather seat covers immediately. I sold the black leather seat covers to someone who had gloomy Grey and death black cloth seats in their 3rd gen Tacoma.
My wife and I have already decided that when her Outback wears out, we’re replacing it with the Crown Signa as long as we can get Tan Leather interior like her Outback.
It has a saddle tan option that looks much better.
The price will scare all humans.
pretty decent car for this money!
But why is Toyota limiting it sales with production quotes
Test drove today - too small for my liking and rides to low to the ground… seats are small - going to look at Subaru Outback in a couple days and compare plus it’s 10,000+ grand less I believe
I'm sorry, but I have turned my back on old fashioned ICE cars. I'm all in with Tesla now, BUT still can't part with my GX460😎
There is no way the Toyota Crown sedans have the same clearance as Camry. They should have higher clearance
Still can't believe the Signia Crown is supposed to replace the Venza.
At a price point of $50,000 this vehicle enters the realm of German luxury cars, yet it does not offer the same level of luxury. It is simply too expensive.
I realize that the 3.5 is dead. Just reminiscing . I drive under 10,000 miles per year. Fuel economy is not a chief concern.
Does this car come with a spare tire? Some new cars do not.
60% of new cars do not come with a spare. I just purchased a Crown Sedan spare tire and wheel for my Crown Signia -- $200. "Stole" the jack from my Venza before trading it in. All is good.
@@edgarten7593Does the spare actually fit in the wheel shaped cutout under the load floor? I’ve heard it’s too shallow, but haven’t seen anything definitive.
Not interested until they get serious with the Crown Max engine and 6 speed automatic.
It would be so much better if they removed the ugly plastic wheel arches
Dont believe it comes in Metallic Exterior Paint..for that price!
No rear privay glass? This product is way over priced
It's wagon. No need for privacy glass.
Not an appealing vehicle for practicalities! I better stay put with my 2022 Toyota hybrid Rav 4 Adventure as my Rav 4 is more practical, very fast, spacious, best gas mileage, very comfortable & allows me for off roading. This Signia is nothing near a Rav 4 and on top this tiny Signia is way too expensive. I can't act as a fool and allow myself to buy such a compact station wagon for such an exorbitant price. We need a vehicle that will give us everything for an affordable price. So, I'm sorry if an offending other when I say that this is nothing near my Rav 4 Hybrid Adventure. Guys, you want a powerful, robust, high fuel efficient, good for off roading, fast, capable of allowing you to bring loads or tons of stuffs, then take your hard-earned money & go for a Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid. Why the heck would Toyota want to bring such a vehicle when the Rav 4 is already out there? At times, technology just gets people crazy about wanting to buy a new product just because it's full of tech! Not all vehicles loaded with technology out there are worth your every penny. Beware, don't get into that trap. I didn't like Chinese vehicles as hearing people saying don't go for Chinese vehicles as they aren't worth & that got me very curious & this year, I bought myself the Haval H6 Hybrid. To my greatest surprise, it's a very reliable vehicle, high on fuel efficiency, very spacious interior, boot is cavernous & it's already 3 months since I bought it, I must say that I have started loving it as it's very practical, very smooth, fully loaded with new technologies but, I have still kept my Toyota Rav 4 Adventure Hybrid as it's a little bit smaller & my wife loves the Rav 4. So, I have got both the Chinese compact SUV and the Japanese compact SUV. If I compare both, I'll say that the Haval H6 is the winner as it's more sophisticated compared to the Rav 4, bigger with more cargo areas, plenty of leg rooms, no roaring sound when you press on the gas pedal compared to the Rav 4. It has everything to please you. It's now my daily driven car.
It is a station wagon. It is reminiscent of the 1960’s which is a complete turn off.
No spare? No deal.
7 second 0-60 time? 🤮 absolute waste of money in 2024. New body shapes for dated drive trains and calling it “crown” is not adequate.
At 50k. I stick to dress up toyota. LEXUS
A much smaller NX sure, but you won't hit RX levels unless you drop 6-10k more.
smaller wheels! no pano roof! and... where's the Plug In variant? Plug-in is offered on this vehicle in Japan... come on!
It’s a great car but it doesn’t matter if you can’t afford it😂
Whre is it built? Thanks--great videos
Earth. 😮😊
Japan
Toyota eat lunch they are buy tundra motors so maybe ceo may have start give lunches to buyers
More expensive than Lexus.
Hard pass 👎🏼
Id rather just get chevy trax. Same cargo
It does not come with a spare tire. I would not want this on a long road trip. I would prefer the Subaru Outback Wilderness which sits higher, has a full size spare tire, better always on awd, is roomier and is cheaper. It will also last longer.
I hated my Subaru. Couldn’t keep it in the road. Gladly got rid of it for a rav4 XSE.
Agree on that lack of a spare tire. Especially in light of the fact that these are 21” wheels with rubber band thin tires. Where’s the logic ? 🤔
@@kenfrankel3498the logics is just that it looks cool and that sells cars.
I wish I can get the limited trim with the smaller wheels.
Boxer engines tend to be more of a complicated system and when damaged cost an arm and a leg more then the traditional Toyota engine system. However, the Subaru like you said has incredible AWD system . As you have stated and a friend of mine who owns a Subaru Outback has expressed to me, this is true.
The expected life is not a given yet. Wait a few years.
$50k is fine with me.
Wagon??? Come on, guy. This is not a family truckster.
Yeah it scares the sheet... a $60K SUV without reclining rear seats! Folks, $60K! Go on a road trip and be a rear passenger and tell if that's comfortable?!?